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  • stoat
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1950

    • March 05, 2019, 06:36:13 pm
    • seoul
Was inspired to start this by remembering the chicken song by Spitting Image.

Last Xmas there was a lot of furore over 'you scumbag you maggot, you cheap, lousy f-ggot' in the Pogues song.

A couple of others I heard recently were

'Don't know about your brain but you look all right - (very misogynistic) Rainbow 'All night long.' and 'one more widow, one less white n-gger' Elvis Costello Oliver's army. Both 1979.

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  • CO2
  • Waygook Lord

    • 6530

    • March 02, 2015, 03:41:14 pm
    • Uiwang
Re: Old songs you sometimes listen to that would be problematic today.
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2020, 03:17:26 pm »
For all those who see SJW in the title and make assumptions, Buckley is quite balanced and rational. He's no troll.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFBLWeqrus0
The first thing to say is that this is definitely not pyramid selling, OK?


  • stoat
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1950

    • March 05, 2019, 06:36:13 pm
    • seoul
Re: Old songs you sometimes listen to that would be problematic today.
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2020, 03:36:16 pm »
Duran Duran, 'Hungry like the wolf' (1982) the whole song is basically about predatory stalking males.
Michael jackson - Black or white - (1991) particularly the line 'don't matter if you're black or white (a clear microagression) 
Jilted John - Gordon is a moron - (1978) 
'Who's this bloke I asked her
Goooooordon, she replied
Not THAT puff, I said dismayed
Yes but he's no puff she cried
(He's more of a man than you'll ever be)'

no explanation needed.

Johnny  Mathis When a Child is born - (1976) 'And all of this happens because the world is waiting, Waiting for one child, Black, white, yellow, no-one knows' 'Yellow?' :shocked:


  • oglop
  • The Legend

    • 4614

    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Old songs you sometimes listen to that would be problematic today.
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2020, 03:49:18 pm »
Blue Mink - Melting Pot

Take a pinch of white man
Wrap him up in black skin
Add a touch of blue blood
And a little bitty bit of red Indian boy
Oh like a Curly Latin kinkies
Oh Lordy, Lordy, mixed with yellow Chinkees, yeah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs2nh9BUpL0


  • stoat
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1950

    • March 05, 2019, 06:36:13 pm
    • seoul
Re: Old songs you sometimes listen to that would be problematic today.
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2020, 03:50:07 pm »
Was that a real song? I never realised.


  • JNM
  • The Legend

    • 4669

    • January 19, 2015, 10:16:48 am
    • Seoul, South Korea
Re: Old songs you sometimes listen to that would be problematic today.
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2020, 05:49:31 pm »
Money for nothing.... Dire Straights  actually removed “*********” from the song because people didn’t realize they were mocking red-necks who say such things. (We can say red-necks still, right?)


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 5410

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Old songs you sometimes listen to that would be problematic today.
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2020, 05:55:50 pm »
Was it mocking? Mark Knopfler wrote down what a store working was saying. Turned it into a song.


  • stoat
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1950

    • March 05, 2019, 06:36:13 pm
    • seoul
Re: Old songs you sometimes listen to that would be problematic today.
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2020, 06:03:48 pm »
I'm sure I've heard it on the radio without the offensive line.


  • stoat
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1950

    • March 05, 2019, 06:36:13 pm
    • seoul
Re: Old songs you sometimes listen to that would be problematic today.
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2020, 06:05:09 pm »
Was it mocking? Mark Knopfler wrote down what a store working was saying. Turned it into a song.

Well I'm sure he doesn't think he gets money for nothing


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 5410

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Old songs you sometimes listen to that would be problematic today.
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2020, 06:14:11 pm »
Dire Straights  actually removed “*********” from the song

It wasn't removed. This is the song on their official website:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0

Do you mean at some point during a live performance lyrics were altered? When they played for the queen or something?

_________________

The radio edit cuts out the verse with the f word.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uvjONowc8Y


  • stoat
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1950

    • March 05, 2019, 06:36:13 pm
    • seoul
Re: Old songs you sometimes listen to that would be problematic today.
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2020, 06:55:07 pm »
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO6lSDL1i7A

Two comic actors pretending to be disabled on the same stage  :shocked: What are they going to do for an encore, Have Jimmy Saville singing the chorus?
« Last Edit: March 05, 2020, 07:02:26 pm by stoat »


  • JNM
  • The Legend

    • 4669

    • January 19, 2015, 10:16:48 am
    • Seoul, South Korea
Re: Old songs you sometimes listen to that would be problematic today.
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2020, 07:10:15 pm »
It wasn't removed. This is the song on their official website:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0

Do you mean at some point during a live performance lyrics were altered? When they played for the queen or something?

_________________

The radio edit cuts out the verse with the f word.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uvjONowc8Y

They stopped using that word in performances.  I saw an interview where they said something like “people were offended. It’s not acceptable now. We stopped using that word.”


Re: Old songs you sometimes listen to that would be problematic today.
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2020, 04:06:18 pm »
Polly Wolly Doodle

Camptown Races


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 5410

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Old songs you sometimes listen to that would be problematic today.
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2020, 04:47:55 pm »
You sometimes listen to those?


Re: Old songs you sometimes listen to that would be problematic today.
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2020, 08:40:45 pm »
You sometimes listen to those?

Actually, they just pop into my head every now and then and hang in there for a few days...i think they're part of my early childhood deep memories that seem to be emerging somewhat more frequently these days as I approach curmudgeon age... They're certainly not PC, that's for sure!


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 5410

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Old songs you sometimes listen to that would be problematic today.
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2020, 09:23:08 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tuu5YtkPIo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dKLQSjxWHI

I really am a cyber-peasant and also a  serious product of a bygone analogue age; I am not on ANY social media (never have been...) and have no experience with the vagaries of this digital age... E mail is about it for me!

with the whole PC/SJW smartphone mindlessness I encounter daily here I truly despair for our future!



  • stoat
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1950

    • March 05, 2019, 06:36:13 pm
    • seoul
Re: Old songs you sometimes listen to that would be problematic today.
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2020, 09:57:52 pm »
Actually, they just pop into my head every now and then and hang in there for a few days...i think they're part of my early childhood deep memories that seem to be emerging somewhat more frequently these days as I approach curmudgeon age... They're certainly not PC, that's for sure!

I couldn't see what was problematic about either of those. I mean obviously the guys are blacked up in the first video but what's the problem with the actual songs? I remember singing Campdown races at scout camp, didn't understand a lot of the lyrics. Is it black vernacular or something?


  • dippedinblush
  • Super Waygook

    • 474

    • November 21, 2013, 11:15:05 am
    • Yangpyeong, South Korea
Re: Old songs you sometimes listen to that would be problematic today.
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2020, 01:44:46 am »
My mama used to play this song over and over again in the car.

Benny Mardones ~ Into the Night

It is a fantastic song, but if you know its about a 16 year old girl and the video is the creeeeeeeeeeepiest videos out there. OMG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9TXjIadhq0


  • dippedinblush
  • Super Waygook

    • 474

    • November 21, 2013, 11:15:05 am
    • Yangpyeong, South Korea
Re: Old songs you sometimes listen to that would be problematic today.
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2020, 01:55:47 am »
Actually now that I think about it....aren't most songs about girls that are 16 pretty suspect?


  • stoat
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1950

    • March 05, 2019, 06:36:13 pm
    • seoul
Re: Old songs you sometimes listen to that would be problematic today.
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2020, 01:57:59 am »
What's creepy about a 30 year old coming through the window of an outhouse with his own carpet to shag a 16 year old? Seriously though, uurgh.