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  • Cyanea
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How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu?
« on: March 02, 2020, 01:52:05 am »

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So far, the new coronavirus, dubbed COVID-19, has led to more than 75,000 illnesses and 2,000 deaths, primarily in mainland China.

But that's nothing compared with the flu, also called influenza.

 In the U.S. alone, the flu has already caused an estimated 26 million illnesses, 250,000 hospitalizations and 14,000 deaths this season, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html
Catch my drift?


  • Adel
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Re: How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu?
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2020, 02:47:48 am »


  • Adel
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Re: How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu?
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2020, 02:57:50 am »
Do the math

On average, seasonal flu strains kill about 0.1 percent of people who become infected. The 1918 flu had an unusually high fatality rate, around 2 percent. Because it was so contagious, that flu killed tens of millions of people.
Early estimates of the coronavirus death rate from Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the outbreak, have been around 2 percent. But a new report on 1,099 cases from many parts of China, published on Friday in The New England Journal of Medicine, finds a lower rate: 1.4 percent.
So ,  0.1 compared to between 1.4 to 2.0 .  That  was  14 to 20 times worse when I did math in elementary school.  Still early days though .

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/topic/Impact-of-Coronavirus-on-Stock-Market
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Re: How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu?
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2020, 03:51:38 am »
Do the math

On average, seasonal flu strains kill about 0.1 percent of people who become infected. The 1918 flu had an unusually high fatality rate, around 2 percent. Because it was so contagious, that flu killed tens of millions of people.
Early estimates of the coronavirus death rate from Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the outbreak, have been around 2 percent. But a new report on 1,099 cases from many parts of China, published on Friday in The New England Journal of Medicine, finds a lower rate: 1.4 percent.
So ,  0.1 compared to between 1.4 to 2.0 .  That  was  14 to 20 times worse when I did math in elementary school.  Still early days though .

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/topic/Impact-of-Coronavirus-on-Stock-Market

These are very important points. It is quite a simplistic, and misleading view that because more people die from either influenza A or B (C not being a major concern), covid-19 is not a big deal.

People who are quick to downplay the virulence of Covid-19 should be ignored just as people who say it will cause the sky to fall.
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  • Cyanea
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Re: How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu?
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2020, 02:17:23 pm »
These are very important points. It is quite a simplistic, and misleading view that because more people die from either influenza A or B (C not being a major concern), covid-19 is not a big deal.

People who are quick to downplay the virulence of Covid-19 should be ignored just as people who say it will cause the sky to fall.

Well there have been 90,932 cases worldwide and 3119 deaths.

So thats a mortality rate of 3.4%.

Three people out of every 100 is quite high..
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Re: How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu?
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2020, 02:33:11 pm »
The mortality rate outside of China is much lower.

(Maybe because of less air pollution and better hospitals?)

In South Korea, 0.6%.

That's slighty over one in two hundred.

If you're healthy, not elderly, and in a developed country, you have nothing to worry about.


Re: How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu?
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2020, 02:48:24 pm »
Again, it's not about the mortality rate. It's about the rate that require hospitalization. THAT is the danger. Because if that rate is something like 5-20%, that would overwhelm the medical systems of whatever locality it is in and then that mortality rate would skyrocket.


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Re: How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu?
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2020, 02:54:06 pm »
if that rate is something like 5-20%, that would overwhelm the medical systems of whatever locality it is in 

Well that could be a problem then.

..because at the Seoul briefing two days ago the spokesman said over 80% so far have not required hospitalization. Meaning that around 10-15% did.
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Re: How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu?
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2020, 03:41:30 pm »
Just a daily reminder that if you are in a Korean hospital, there are basically no nurses and your family is expected to come and do things like feed and bathe you. I'm sure they're upping the level of care...please tell me they're providing nurses to coronavirus victims.
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Re: How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu?
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2020, 08:13:53 pm »
The personal account of someone who had it and didn't die after receiving medical attention made it sound like a painful, miserable experience. In other words, not something to sneeze at.


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Re: How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu?
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2020, 05:42:52 pm »
Do your jobs, mods!
Yes sir!

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-wait-swine-flu-n1h1/?collection-id=238810
Snopes is awesome. I've lost soooo many facebook friends linking it to their less-than-believable posts. The truth hurts!  :sad:


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Re: How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu?
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2020, 08:28:53 pm »
Yes sir!
Snopes is awesome. I've lost soooo many facebook friends linking it to their less-than-believable posts. The truth hurts!  :sad:


A great investment of your time if that’s the result!


  • kyndo
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Re: How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu?
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2020, 10:26:52 am »
A great investment of your time if that’s the result!
I may have been exaggerating just a wee bit.
I do occasionally Snope check things to see if they're actually true (and even less occasionally post the results) but generally only for oh--hey-look-at-this-interesting-fact kind of post.
For a lot of topics, people are so invested in their "side" of things that fact checking is pointless -- nobody is going to change their opinions regardless of veracity.  :sad:

Luckily, my home country is a bit more laissez-faire on a lot of the hot button issues that seem to be so divisive in other countries, so there are less lose-all-your-friends kind of topics to tip-toe around.  :smiley:
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