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  • VanIslander
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Re: The world is divided into...
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2020, 12:38:28 am »
Those who believe in dualisms,

and

Those who don't,

and

Those who think it is at times, but not at other times, and yet nothing is gained by straddling the line.


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Re: The world is divided into...
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2020, 12:40:00 am »
@vanislander, I would agree with you, however I believe nachos will save us.
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Re: The world is divided into...
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2020, 12:59:45 am »
@vanislander, I would agree with you, however I believe nachos will save us.
With guac and tequila, i believe you.
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Re: The world is divided into...
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2020, 04:28:20 am »
Those who can extrapolate...


Re: The world is divided into...
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2020, 08:13:57 am »
those who have sworn off alcohol after a nasty hangover

and

those who have "sworn off" alcohol after a nasty hangover


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Re: The world is divided into...
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2020, 04:18:50 pm »
alcoholics and non-alcoholics


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Re: The world is divided into...
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2020, 03:34:51 am »
alcoholics and non-alcoholics
Statistically there are four categories.

Abstainers
1-2 drinks after work
Binge drinkers
Heavy drinkers

And the j-curve of mortality in epidemiology is quite clear: those who have 1-2 drinks a day (no more! not the alcoholic who has one and impulsively has to keep drinking) HAVE A BETTER SURVIVAL RATE AT EVERY AGE than do abstainers and heavy drinkers.

Why? In part due to the reduced heart attacks of drinkers vs. non-drinkers. But alcohol is a class 1 carcinogen so the more one drinks, no surprise the increase in cancer. Plus, at some level of consumption, heart attacks of the variable heart beat kind (rather than coronary artery disease) increases, as does the bleeding kind of stroke (not the blockage kind of stroke that alcohol is protective against).

So, have a glass of red wine after dinner. Every day. It doesnt make you an alcoholic. It makes you wise.

But if you regularly reach for that 3rd drink when you told yourself you were only going to have 1 or 2, then you have a problem, a health problem for sure.
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Re: The world is divided into...
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2020, 06:38:46 am »
No amount of alcohol is safe, according to The Global Burden of Diseases study, which analyzed levels of alcohol use and its health effects in 195 countries from 1990 to 2016.

While the study's authors say that moderate drinking may safeguard people against heart disease, they found that the potential to develop cancer and other diseases offsets these potential benefits, as do other risks of harm.  The report urges governments to revise health guidelines to suggest lower levels of consumption.

"Our results show that the safest level of drinking is none," the report states.


https://www.npr.org/2018/08/24/641618937/no-amount-of-alcohol-is-good-for-your-health-global-study-claims



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Re: The world is divided into...
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2020, 07:19:06 am »
No amount of alcohol is safe, according to The Global Burden of Diseases study, which analyzed levels of alcohol use and its health effects in 195 countries from 1990 to 2016.

While the study's authors say that moderate drinking may safeguard people against heart disease, they found that the potential to develop cancer and other diseases offsets these potential benefits...
1. The j-curve between alcohol and epidemiology is solid.

2. If you have a family history of coronary heart disease or ischemic stroke (blood clot blockages) then moderate daily alcohol consumption is warranted and in fact recommended by many doctors baded on the SCIENCE.

My mother and grandmother died of coronary heart attack and stroke, respectively, so I have a glass or two of bokbunja (the small bottle us equivalent to two drinks) daily unless I have dinner out with Koreans, in which case I have two shots of soju or a single draft beer.

I also have two cats, got them six years ago,  and I hug them and pet them often, pets shown as also good for heart health.

Remember abstainers: heart attacks are the #1 killer in many countries. Research the j-curve. And your family history.

If cancer kills your closest relatives, then of course never drink alcohol, eat sausages, pepperoni, hot dogs or any bbq meat.