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The topic, originally posted by waygook.org user Princess-Love about her experience with some 3rd grade students attempting to look up her skirt, was originally titled "Sexually Harassed by 3rd Graders?"

Today, waygook.org moderator LVL 1 VanIslander edited the topic title to "Harassed by 3rd Graders?"

Why? The topic title was not breaking any rules of the TOS. There is a very large difference between sexual harassment and other harassment. The original poster was a woman posting about an incident of what she rightly felt to be sexual harassment. She was posting for advice and support.

Changing the topic title to remove the 'sexual' from 'sexual harassment' is completely unnecessary and unwarranted, and also changes the intent of the post.

Why was the title changed?

Additionally, it appears that a sentence was added at the end of the post, which reads: "What are some of the worse [sic] things your students have done to you?" which, also, is not what the original poster intended to post. Why was this added?
« Last Edit: December 05, 2019, 11:52:29 am by #basedcowboyshirt »


  • Colburnnn
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I would assume that was because it wasn't sexual harassment.

I agree it was a strange change though.


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wait, why is that thread even locked?


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wait, why is that thread even locked?
DeMart and Mr C were going at it. One was called a liar and the other went on an F bomb rampage.


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wait, why is that thread even locked?
DeMart and Mr C were going at it. One was called a liar and the other went on an F bomb rampage.

The one that was called a liar was also the one that went on an F bomb rampage.  Just when a thread is getting good they shut it down.  Oh well, maybe someone posted a "What do you think of this contract?" post to help pass the time. 


wait, why is that thread even locked?
DeMart and Mr C were going at it. One was called a l*** and the other went on an F bomb rampage.

The one that was called a l*** was also the one that went on an F bomb rampage.  Just when a thread is getting good they shut it down.  Oh well, maybe someone posted a "What do you think of this contract?" post to help pass the time. 

FFY

Whoa, OnNut, what are you doing?  Don't use the 'L' word, he'll go mental, again.



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wait, why is that thread even locked?
DeMart and Mr C were going at it. One was called a l*** and the other went on an F bomb rampage.

The one that was called a l*** was also the one that went on an F bomb rampage.  Just when a thread is getting good they shut it down.  Oh well, maybe someone posted a "What do you think of this contract?" post to help pass the time. 

FFY

Whoa, OnNut, what are you doing?  Don't use the 'L' word, he'll go mental, again.



I don't think anyone knows who we mean by "the one."  This thread is safe.  He or she will never venture in here. 


It got locked because it got personal, pretty much.

As for the title change, I'm pretty sure it was partly due to discomfort (a lot of people hate classifying sexual offenses as sexual when kids are the perpetrators, often because they're completely out of touch with what kids can get up to or involved in, especially when abuse is part of that equation, but also because they feel that such terms are too severe in nature and should be reserved for adults), and also possibly as an effort to prevent the topic from devolving into tangent arguments.


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wait, why is that thread even locked?
DeMart and Mr C were going at it. One was called a liar and the other went on an F bomb rampage.
exactly. good entertainment ;)


It wasn't just that he called me a liar. It's that he said it in regards to me completely fabricating a story involving a 1st grade kid and my getting dongchimmed. Like I understand if people are debating politics and they throw that out there or even if someone is a bit skeptical of a story, but to flat out say I was lying about a story like that was beyond the pale. Anyways, the mods have been very generous and I think after this explanation, it's best to move on.


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because 3rd graders arent sexually harassing anyone


because 3rd graders arent sexually harassing anyone

Right. They are too busy learning about spelling, punctuation, capital letters etc. I know your country (the name of which you cannot spell) doesn't have the greatest education system, but that's not stopping you from picking up a book today, is it?


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wait, why is that thread even locked?
DeMart and Mr C were going at it. One was called a liar and the other went on an F bomb rampage.
There was no "going at it".  He told a story that I find not credible (still do), and decided to call him out on it.  To be clear, the part I bolded in the original post was the part I think he's lying about.

It wasn't just that he called me a liar. It's that he said it in regards to me completely fabricating a story involving a 1st grade kid and my getting dongchimmed. Like I understand if people are debating politics and they throw that out there or even if someone is a bit skeptical of a story, but to flat out say I was lying about a story like that was beyond the pale. Anyways, the mods have been very generous and I think after this explanation, it's best to move on.

Oh, please. A quote from you, December, 2018:
Oh please. People lie constantly about everything. From David Simon's Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets:

It is a God-given truth. Everyone lies.
A. Murderers (criminals) lie because they have to.
B. Witnesses and other participants lie because they think they have to.
C. Everyone else lies for the sheer joy of it, and to uphold a general principle that under no circumstances do you provide accurate information to a cop.

People lie about EVERYTHING. Makeup is a lie. Fingernails are a lie. The clothes people wear are a lie. That watch or car or TV is a lie- you aren't that rich. Everyone lies constantly about how much sex they're getting. They lie about whether they want to bang someone. They lie about their kinks and fetishes. They lie about whether they like people. They lie about their views and feelings on race. They lie about liking their boss, their coworkers, their family, their spouse, their kids. They lie on their taxes. They lie about what they had for breakfast. They lie about how often they brush their teeth, how often they shower, whether they jacked off that morning, whether they picked their nose in the car.
After that screed, the only rational way to deal with what you say is to assume you're lying, absent good evidence to the contrary.  You get butt-hurt over it, too bad.  You've made your bed.


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I saw a squirrel, it was doing like this:  "tsk tsk tsk"
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So...when will there be a Waygook meet-up, so folks can REALLY go at it? 


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I saw a squirrel, it was doing like this:  "tsk tsk tsk"
I think you are attributing human motivations to innocent and natural squirrel behaviors.

Shame on you.

There is a reason we donít put squirrels in prison.


  • Arsalan
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There is a reason we donít put squirrels in prison.

What about The Donald?  Can't we at least impeach them?
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"My heart bursts into starlight,
like collapsing ecstasy."


Obviously there was no "sexual harassment."

Should ban the original poster for spreading #MeToo lies about children, and Korea should kick this filth out of the country.


I saw a squirrel, it was doing like this:  "tsk tsk tsk"

Um, waygook.org site programmer Arsalan, can you maybe give some insight as to why this was altered by a moderator?
« Last Edit: December 06, 2019, 07:54:40 am by #basedcowboyshirt »


There was no "going at it".  He told a story that I find not credible (still do), and decided to call him out on it.  To be clear, the part I bolded in the original post was the part I think he's lying about.
You said it wasn't credible because the girl who dongchimmed me wouldn't in turn sob in mortal terror when being taken for discipline. You do realize that adult criminals breakdown in tears all the time when they're getting hauled off by the cops or sentenced in court, right? And if she was "hamming it up" as you claim, she'd be the greatest child actor on the planet. It was utterly an utterly shocking experience the level of distress. This wasn't just temper tantrum tears, which I've heard plenty of, this was genuine mortal terror if I've ever heard it. I didn't expect it at all and I was genuinely surprised as to why she'd be THAT distressed. Keep in mind this was a 1st grader in the first week of school. Either two things happen- This was her first experience with discipline ever (possible because of the dongchim to an adult) or she goes through something awful at home for doing wrong. She was inconsolable. It is NOT a pleasant memory and I hope you never hear that kind of scream from a child.

Dude, sorry, but your BS detector isn't as good as you think it is.

Quote
After that screed...
You do realize the first part, including the bolded, is a quote from David Simon, the acclaimed author and reporter whose work led to three critically acclaimed television series- Homicide: Life on the Street, The Corner, and a little show called The Wire. If you have an issue with the content of that quote, take it up with him. That's from his Edgar Award winning non-fiction book "Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets".

Second, that quote was in reference to a debate we were having over whether lying was proof of guilt. I was explaining how the mere fact that someone lied to the cops, does not make them a suspect in whatever crime you are investigating. This is because EVERYONE lies to the police. If you assumed anyone who lied to you was the guilty party, you'd be a terrible investigator. You claimed that people wouldn't normally lie to investigators. Well according to investigators themselves, and the people who follow their work, that's not the case. Everyone, normal people, will lie for no reason whatsoever. They can just be a simple witness and they'll still lie about something. Same thing goes for doctors and dentists- the amount of nonstop lies they deal with is just a fact of life. You also asserted that lying was not a standard human behavior. That's what the stuff below was about. All the "little" ways people lie and the things they'll lie about.

However, these lies are all under interrogation and stated by people who think they might be in some kind of trouble. If I was to interrogate you about say, whether you like to gamble and whether you're any good at it, what your porno habits are or what titillates you, or violent fantasies, or how long you lasted last time you had sex, or how much time you spend playing video games, or whether you're sticking to your diet, or something, within 20 questions, you'll probably have lied at least once. If you didn't you actually wouldn't be normal. Almost everyone will lie about embarrassing past experiences or sexual fetishes or whatever. That stuff IS embarrassing to talk about with a complete stranger. It is natural, indeed, probably biologically natural and hardwired into us to be secretive about aspects of our private lives like that.

Lastly, you make the assumption that because people do lie about things and that everyone tells lies, that EVERYTHING is a lie. That's taking something to it's most ridiculous logical conclusion.