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F2-7 visa change in 2020
« on: November 01, 2019, 06:01:12 pm »
KIMMI : thats a nice f2-7 you've got there.

You: why thank you I got it last year.

KIMMI it sure would be a shame if anything happened to it when you renew.

You.......

KIMMI Rips it in half.

Starting January renewal of the F2-7 requires proving you meet all the points each and every-time. Meaning if your income dips or you get older you will lose points and you better keep doing that volunteering or you'll lose points. 

link

https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/dphuug/horrible_f27_visa_rule_changes_the_death_of_the/


T.C.


  • oglop
  • The Legend

    • 2607

    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
    • Seoul
Re: F2-7 visa change in 2020
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2019, 06:03:07 pm »
Saw this a couple days ago. What a complete load of ****** bollocks. I'm sorry for those of you that are on this visa. Absolute crock of shit


  • L I
  • The Legend

    • 3610

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
    • Seoul
Re: F2-7 visa change in 2020
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2019, 06:08:48 pm »
AND starting from January 2, 2020 to sponsor a spouse or dependent on the visa requires the average GNI, which is 37 million.

AND the F-2-99  visa will require KIIP level 4, both to get and to renew.


  • L I
  • The Legend

    • 3610

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
    • Seoul
Re: F2-7 visa change in 2020
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2019, 06:15:47 pm »
To go from the F-2-7 to the F-5 requires double the GNI, meaning 74 million a year in legal taxable income. Also, now requires KIIP level 5 as well.


Re: F2-7 visa change in 2020
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2019, 07:26:17 pm »
I'm pleased I'd already made the decision to bail on Korea rather than go the F-2-99 route. It's much worse for people already on the F-2-7 though.

Who would realistically make so much effort to maintain their F-2-7 as they got older, just for the 'privilege' of working in a country that saps the joy out of everything. Especially when that same country is telling you they don't want you because you dared to grow older than 35, so you'd better do tons of volunteer work or else **** off.

I've been in Korea a long time, but I'm counting down the days now. At its heart, Korea is a horribly racist country. Their arrogance is astounding for a people that would still be living in crushing poverty were it not for the help of the US.


Re: F2-7 visa change in 2020
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2019, 09:30:55 am »
My plan was to start studying Korean now with a view to getting TOPIK 2 within a year (going for the F-2-99).  Changing the requirement to TOPIK 4 has really peed on my bonfire  :-[


  • NorthStar
  • Expert Waygook

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    • July 05, 2017, 10:54:06 am
    • Mouseville
Re: F2-7 visa change in 2020
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2019, 10:17:56 am »
Quote
I'm pleased I'd already made the decision to bail on Korea rather than go the F-2-99 route. It's much worse for people already on the F-2-7 though.

Who would realistically make so much effort to maintain their F-2-7 as they got older, just for the 'privilege' of working in a country that saps the joy out of everything. Especially when that same country is telling you they don't want you because you dared to grow older than 35, so you'd better do tons of volunteer work or else **** off.

I've been in Korea a long time, but I'm counting down the days now. At its heart, Korea is a horribly racist country. Their arrogance is astounding for a people that would still be living in crushing poverty were it not for the help of the US.

Yep....



  • Cyanea
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • September 04, 2016, 01:48:24 pm
    • Las Vegas
Re: F2-7 visa change in 2020
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2019, 07:57:55 pm »
I'm pleased I'd already made the decision to bail on Korea rather than go the F-2-99 route. It's much worse for people already on the F-2-7 though.

Who would realistically make so much effort to maintain their F-2-7 as they got older, just for the 'privilege' of working in a country that saps the joy out of everything. Especially when that same country is telling you they don't want you because you dared to grow older than 35, so you'd better do tons of volunteer work or else **** off.

I've been in Korea a long time, but I'm counting down the days now. At its heart, Korea is a horribly racist country. Their arrogance is astounding for a people that would still be living in crushing poverty were it not for the help of the US.

Yes. It is similar to what they have done with the D10. Only Ivy league grads get to jobhunt in South Korea don't ya know. Who do they think they are?

It will take a massive kick in the goolies from demographics before they realize they need to stop forcing out their most culturally assimilated foreigners. They try to force out anyone over the age of 35 even if you have lived here years, learned the language and adapted to the culture.

Give it another decade and suddenly they'll be begging anyone from anywhere with a pulse to migrate here because of their ageing society.


AND starting from January 2, 2020 to sponsor a spouse or dependent on the visa requires the average GNI, which is 37 million.

Hold on. So ESL teachers marrying a Korean after 2/1/2020 will no longer get residence?
« Last Edit: November 03, 2019, 08:10:02 pm by Cyanea »
Catch my drift?


  • Lazio
  • Veteran

    • 194

    • January 27, 2018, 03:56:10 pm
    • Gyeongi-do
Re: F2-7 visa change in 2020
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2019, 09:15:35 pm »
AND starting from January 2, 2020 to sponsor a spouse or dependent on the visa requires the average GNI, which is 37 million.

Hold on. So ESL teachers marrying a Korean after 2/1/2020 will no longer get residence?

It's about F-2-7 visa holders sponsoring family members. Got nothing to do with the spousal visa (F-6).


Re: F2-7 visa change in 2020
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2019, 11:34:23 am »
That's pretty ridiculous. Like waygook.org user Cyanea said, they should be throwing long-term resident visas at people who've lived here for five years or more, not making it more difficult for them to stay.



Re: F2-7 visa change in 2020
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2019, 07:33:48 pm »

AND the F-2-99  visa will require KIIP level 4, both to get and to renew.

I thought the F2-99 visa didn't require KIIP level 4 to renew? Do you have a source for that? I check HiKorea and they only say you need to make minimum wage, have 15 million in personal savings (of the 30 million if you're including family income) and have proof of address.


Re: F2-7 visa change in 2020
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2019, 08:17:57 am »
I got this from the hikorea website, notices section. It explains the changes for F-2-7 visas. I don't think there's any new information but it's an official document so it's (probably) reliable.


  • L I
  • The Legend

    • 3610

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
    • Seoul
Re: F2-7 visa change in 2020
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2019, 04:57:25 pm »
I thought the F2-99 visa didn't require KIIP level 4 to renew?

Starting from Jan. 2, 2020, F2-99 VISA change criteria will be changed.

...

(4) KIIP Stage 4 Completion or graduation of one of Korean universities
4. 사회통합프로그램 4단계 이수 또는 국내 대학 졸업

...

***After F2-99 VISA acquisition, they meet the above requirements when they extend.***


  • smpj4606
  • Newgookin

    • 2

    • December 31, 2012, 02:12:32 pm
    • Gunpo-si, Gyeonggi-do
Re: F2-7 visa change in 2020
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2019, 02:48:07 pm »
I'm pleased I'd already made the decision to bail on Korea rather than go the F-2-99 route. It's much worse for people already on the F-2-7 though.

Who would realistically make so much effort to maintain their F-2-7 as they got older, just for the 'privilege' of working in a country that saps the joy out of everything. Especially when that same country is telling you they don't want you because you dared to grow older than 35, so you'd better do tons of volunteer work or else **** off.

I've been in Korea a long time, but I'm counting down the days now. At its heart, Korea is a horribly racist country. Their arrogance is astounding for a people that would still be living in crushing poverty were it not for the help of the US.

Yes. It is similar to what they have done with the D10. Only Ivy league grads get to jobhunt in South Korea don't ya know. Who do they think they are?

It will take a massive kick in the goolies from demographics before they realize they need to stop forcing out their most culturally assimilated foreigners. They try to force out anyone over the age of 35 even if you have lived here years, learned the language and adapted to the culture.

Give it another decade and suddenly they'll be begging anyone from anywhere with a pulse to migrate here because of their ageing society.


AND starting from January 2, 2020 to sponsor a spouse or dependent on the visa requires the average GNI, which is 37 million.

Hold on. So ESL teachers marrying a Korean after 2/1/2020 will no longer get residence?



THIS THREAD IS EVERYTHING I'VE BEEN THINKING ~ it's too bad because I'm just a test away from an F2-7 --but it's good to know that I'm not the only one that feels this way. After learning the language and assimilating I still feel unwanted because THEY KEEP MOVING THE FINISH LINE---so I'm leaving March 2020 after 6 years total since 2011  :undecided: