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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1160 on: June 30, 2020, 10:17:58 am »
Trump is better for the economy.





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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1161 on: June 30, 2020, 10:20:16 am »
Presidents get to take credit for the economy being good during their presidency regardless of how much they actually impacted it, that's just sort of the norm at this point. That being said, when the economy improves or tanks it isn't necessarily a direct result of Trump doing something.


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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1162 on: June 30, 2020, 12:02:03 pm »
Multiple intelligence streams suggest Russians paying bounties for US troops, Trump not briefed: official

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/multiple-intelligence-streams-russian-bounties-for-us-troops-trump-not-briefed

Kremlin Denies Russia Offered Taliban Bounties To Kill U.S. Troops | Andrea Mitchell | MSNBC

The Russians say it's BS so perhaps Trump should run on his patriotism and his standing within the military.  After all the American people have much greater trust in the KGB than the deep state right?


Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1163 on: June 30, 2020, 12:18:34 pm »
I remember the NYTimes having Mideast bombshells from unnamed sources that may have been more hype and fear than actual substance. Some reporter Janice Martin...no Julie Mercer...what was her name and that story?


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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1164 on: June 30, 2020, 06:09:51 pm »
Trump is better for the economy.




Question: Do you think that graphic in any way demonstrates that "Trump is better for the economy"?
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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1165 on: June 30, 2020, 07:34:06 pm »
I remember the NYTimes having Mideast bombshells from unnamed sources that may have been more hype and fear than actual substance. Some reporter Janice Martin...no Julie Mercer...what was her name and that story?


Uh-huh.  Well, turns out the story was included in a PDB back in February, so, nothing in the stories is incorrect--assuming that Trump can read.  And the US intel apparatus passed it on to our allies.
It has to be admitted though that Trump's main intelligence briefings come from Fox & Friends and Sean Hannity.
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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1166 on: June 30, 2020, 11:22:00 pm »
Uh-huh.  Well, turns out the story was included in a PDB back in February, so, nothing in the stories is incorrect--assuming that Trump can read.  And the US intel apparatus passed it on to our allies.
It has to be admitted though that Trump's main intelligence briefings come from Fox & Friends and Sean Hannity.
Those briefings can consist of 100 different blurbs. Meanwhile the President is dealing with 50 reports of threats, a meeting that started late, a presser to get to, etc. Leaders do what leaders fo- delegate.

I'm applying the same standard as I did with Clinton and Benghazi.

Until you show me evidence this was something that people were treating as a profound crisis and that serious actions resulted from it, I'm going to treat it like some other threat report that fills up the PDB 1/100 of which will slip through and become a political problem.


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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1167 on: July 01, 2020, 01:51:54 am »
Trump is better for the economy.




Quick. Tell the 43 million unemployed Americans. I'm sure they'll be happy to hear this.


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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1168 on: July 01, 2020, 01:54:44 am »
Shouldn't this thread be re-titled? Something along the lines of Biden will win in 2020 or Incompetent incumbent goes down in his own flames?


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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1169 on: July 01, 2020, 07:25:44 am »
Ahhhhh... Waking up and seeing gators/Haven't/Veronica have drooled some fairy tale guff again in this thread makes everything seem right in the World, even during these unprecedented times.
Haven't you got some pictures of birds to be jacking off to, son?

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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1170 on: July 01, 2020, 07:32:44 am »
Those briefings can consist of 100 different blurbs. Meanwhile the President is dealing with 50 reports of threats, a meeting that started late, a presser to get to, etc. Leaders do what leaders fo- delegate.

I'm applying the same standard as I did with Clinton and Benghazi.

Until you show me evidence this was something that people were treating as a profound crisis and that serious actions resulted from it, I'm going to treat it like some other threat report that fills up the PDB 1/100 of which will slip through and become a political problem.

The issue was being called out for believing the lamestream media.   The reporting was correct.
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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1171 on: July 01, 2020, 08:18:03 am »
Those briefings can consist of 100 different blurbs. Meanwhile the President is dealing with 50 reports of threats, a meeting that started late, a presser to get to, etc. Leaders do what leaders fo- delegate.

I'm applying the same standard as I did with Clinton and Benghazi.

Until you show me evidence this was something that people were treating as a profound crisis and that serious actions resulted from it, I'm going to treat it like some other threat report that fills up the PDB 1/100 of which will slip through and become a political problem.

Are you suggesting this information wasn't worthy of the Trump administration's attention? That's an interesting line of argument.


Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1172 on: July 01, 2020, 08:34:35 am »
Are you suggesting this information wasn't worthy of the Trump administration's attention? That's an interesting line of argument.

trump is doing as he's always done.  1. He's denied it happened.  2. Then, he will deflect.  3.  Then, discredit. 

So far, he's done 1 and 3.  Probably also 2, with the 'white power' idiot. 


Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1173 on: July 01, 2020, 10:11:58 am »
Are you suggesting this information wasn't worthy of the Trump administration's attention? That's an interesting line of argument.
Of course. It gets delegated. But we know nothing of howe it was presented in the PDB nor how urgently it was done so.

As I said, you do realize those things list a bunch of different potential crises daily, most of which fail to turn into said crisis.   This is before you get to more nefarious questions about how reliable the intel is and whether any specific agency is framing it a certain way for political purposes.


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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1174 on: July 02, 2020, 07:25:39 am »
Dr. Fauci is better for the economy that dishonest don:

"Goldman Sachs said that a federal mask mandate could prevent a 5 percent hit on the nationís G.D.P. by reducing the number of daily transmissions and avoiding the need for further lockdowns, CNBC reports."


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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1175 on: July 02, 2020, 03:04:07 pm »
a group of former bush officials made a super PAC to elect biden called "43 alumni for biden"

wooooooow


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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1176 on: July 02, 2020, 03:09:20 pm »
a group of former bush officials made a super PAC to elect biden called "43 alumni for biden"

wooooooow

Wow how shocking and unpredictable, I wonder what neocons would possibly have to gain from boosting the neolib candidate


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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1177 on: July 02, 2020, 03:15:21 pm »
Wow how shocking and unpredictable

it didn't happen in 2016 as far as i remember


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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1178 on: July 02, 2020, 03:19:00 pm »
They were fine with Trump in 2016 because they figured they'd be able to talk him into stuff. Then he got into office, reset his cabinet like 3 times, and fired Comey. Friendship ended with Drumpft, Biden is new best friend


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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #1179 on: July 02, 2020, 03:26:55 pm »
yeah thats true. it'll be interesting to see how they react if trump wins again, but at the same time i'd rather not find out