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  • Mr C
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #400 on: March 26, 2020, 01:19:57 pm »
march 6 is my favourite quote.

someone should keep it going til present day

That's not even the best part,  He also said that day: "Does anybody die from the flu? I didn't know people died from the flu."

Friedrich Trump, the president's grandfather, became one of the first people to die during the first wave of the Spanish flu pandemic in 1918 while living in Queens, New York.


Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #401 on: March 26, 2020, 02:34:58 pm »
Luckily there is no one here when reading that list of what trump said in the last three months, who would still say he's doing well...

 :rolleyes:  Oooops!  My bad!!
And where were the Democrats who have equal responsibility as the majority party in the House during all of this? Impeachment and Orange Man Bad.


  • Mr C
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #402 on: March 26, 2020, 02:45:34 pm »
And where were the Democrats who have equal responsibility as the majority party in the House during all of this? Impeachment and Orange Man Bad.
So you think House Democrats and the President have equal control of the executive branch.  Interesting.  Utterly, hilariously wrong, but interesting.


Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #403 on: March 26, 2020, 05:44:05 pm »
And where were the Democrats who have equal responsibility as the majority party in the House during all of this? Impeachment and Orange Man Bad.

What?  You mean the Democrats in Congress who have been passing bipartisan bills for amongst other things: raising the minimum wage to ensuring equal pay, and passing legislation to raise wages. Also passing legislation to protect and expand health coverage and bring down prescription drug prices, universal background checks bill, net neutrality, and reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act.  These are then sent to the senate where 'the grim reaper' mcconnell sits on them, favouring instead to spend time confirming conservative judges.  Those Democrats?  The ones who impeached trump by the book and by the constitution?   You'd have to be suffering from concussion to listen to the whole impeachment enquiry and not think trump was guilty as hell.  The same Democrats who were doing this impeachment but also passing laws as well?  You'd obviously listened to trump and his BS 'do-nothing Democrats'.  You call him a liar and a con-man and then still believe him.   :rolleyes:

Are you smart or stupid?

You sunshine, are the latter, again. 


  • gogators!
  • The Legend

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    • March 16, 2016, 04:35:48 pm
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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #404 on: March 26, 2020, 09:18:30 pm »
And where were the Democrats who have equal responsibility as the majority party in the House during all of this? Impeachment and Orange Man Bad.
The blame game. They were raising the alarm and trying to push trump to act, which he then called a hoax.

foxnuts, an invasive species that is crowding out intelligent life.


  • Savant
  • The Legend

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    • April 07, 2012, 11:35:31 pm
Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #405 on: March 26, 2020, 09:53:35 pm »
Another brutal ad attacking Trump's response to Covid-19. Team Trump hate it so much that they've sent out "Cease and Desist" letters to TV networks showing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkMwvmJLnc0


Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #406 on: March 27, 2020, 08:21:44 am »
Another brutal ad attacking Trump's response to Covid-19. Team Trump hate it so much that they've sent out "Cease and Desist" letters to TV networks showing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkMwvmJLnc0

The best thing about that video is that even though trump is threatening to sue them, he can't.  It's all his words, with the correct dates.  How can you sue someone for that?  It's almost as if he's not learned from his presidency when to keep his mouth shut.  The perfect balance of arrogance and ignorance. 

Also, that video shows perfectly why the US now, by official figures, has the highest number of cases, and the worst thing is that they're 2-3 weeks off flattening the curve IF they enforce restrictions, do more testing and have nationwide lockdowns like other countries starting doing months ago.  Which we know won't happen.  Because of this kind of thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppupfmDFjW0


Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #407 on: March 27, 2020, 10:53:44 am »
So you think House Democrats and the President have equal control of the executive branch.  Interesting.  Utterly, hilariously wrong, but interesting.
They have equal responsibility under our system of government. Which branch is responsible for lawmaking, appropriations and oversight?


Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #408 on: March 27, 2020, 10:56:05 am »
The blame game. They were raising the alarm and trying to push trump to act, which he then called a hoax.

foxnuts, an invasive species that is crowding out intelligent life.
No they weren't. They were focused on impeachment. Trump didnt do much but he was the first to act while Congress went on about Orange man bad and Dems focused on impeachment and the primaries.


Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #409 on: March 27, 2020, 11:00:10 am »
What?  You mean the Democrats in Congress who have been passing bipartisan bills for amongst other things: raising the minimum wage to ensuring equal pay, and passing legislation to raise wages. Also passing legislation to protect and expand health coverage and bring down prescription drug prices, universal background checks bill, net neutrality, and reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act.  These are then sent to the senate where 'the grim reaper' mcconnell sits on them, favouring instead to spend time confirming conservative judges.  Those Democrats?  The ones who impeached trump by the book and by the constitution?   You'd have to be suffering from concussion to listen to the whole impeachment enquiry and not think trump was guilty as hell.  The same Democrats who were doing this impeachment but also passing laws as well?  You'd obviously listened to trump and his BS 'do-nothing Democrats'.  You call him a liar and a con-man and then still believe him.   
Trump was not obviously guilty. Obstruction of Congress wasn't established outside of the norms of American governance, nor abuse of power. It was pure theater.
And while they were focused on that they ignored coronavirus.

Trump is a liar and a conman but that doesn't make him guilty of everything you accuse him of.


  • Mr C
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #410 on: March 27, 2020, 11:17:05 am »
They have equal responsibility under our system of government. Which branch is responsible for lawmaking, appropriations and oversight?
Congress is, obviously.  Including the Senate which has buried every bill coming from the House.

Which branch is responsible for EXECUTING laws and regulation?  Does the House assume equal responsibility for that with the President?  That's the question I was asking.

During January and February, there was no need for laws and appropriations.  There was however need for EXECUTION, that didn't happen, for two main reasons.

1) As usual, when Republicans have the reigns of power, they starve essential government services, so when a problem that needs, say, FEMA or a pandemic response team, comes along: there is nothing but tumbleweeds.  Then they can say, like with Katrina, "See, government doesn't work!"  And the pile of dead Americans they're pointing to keeps getting bigger each time.  And meanwhile blame SARS and MERS on Obama, not on government ...

2) This President repeatedly told his government NOT TO DO ANYTHING.  Remember BS like It's contained, its a Democrat hoax, fifteen cases will soon go down to zero, I promise you, the government response id 10 out of 10 (when they had not responded yet AT ALL), people are getting better and their still going to work, no problem, it'll be a miracle, etc etc.


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    • March 16, 2016, 04:35:48 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #411 on: March 27, 2020, 09:45:14 pm »
No they weren't. They were focused on impeachment. Trump didnt do much but he was the first to act while Congress went on about Orange man bad and Dems focused on impeachment and the primaries.
NO. Democrats were calling for action.

This post is a sorry falsehood. A big lie.



  • gogators!
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    • March 16, 2016, 04:35:48 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #412 on: March 27, 2020, 09:58:57 pm »
Trump was not obviously guilty. Obstruction of Congress wasn't established outside of the norms of American governance, nor abuse of power. It was pure theater.
And while they were focused on that they ignored coronavirus.

Trump is a liar and a conman but that doesn't make him guilty of everything you accuse him of.
More BS. Try some kaopectate.

trump abused the power of his office for personal gain, an impeachable offense. He then obstructed justice, an impeachable offense.

The only theatre here is the repugnican senators acting as unbiased jurors, breaking their oaths. They put party ahead of the rule of law.

Democrats did not ignore coronavirus. Trump is STILL trying to ignore it.

"House Democrats on Tuesday urged Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar to request a package of emergency supplemental funding to deal with the coronavirus outbreak.

“Further resources will be necessary to support an aggressive and comprehensive government-wide response to the 2019 novel Coronavirus, both domestically and internationally,” House Appropriations Chairwoman Nita Lowey (D-N.Y.) and Labor, Health and Human Services subcommittee Chairwoman Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.) wrote Azar in a letter.

“We strongly urge the Administration to transmit a request to Congress for emergency supplemental appropriations to respond to this public health emergency. We urge the Administration to submit the emergency supplemental request no later than Monday, February 10, along with its submittal of the fiscal year 2021 President’s Budget,” they added.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said it is already depleting the $105 million rapid response fund, and on Sunday Azar notified Congress that the department was looking at transferring $136 million from other programs. Azar can only transfer the funds 15 days after notifying Congress, on Monday, February 17."

In SK: "Every few seconds, a batch of white plastic cases shoots along a conveyor belt in a South Korean factory –- coronavirus test kits destined for export around the world as the global pandemic sends demand soaring.

SD Biosensor is one of five South Korean companies whose COVID-19 diagnostic tests are being used in the country, where a huge "trace, test and treat" effort appears to have brought the epidemic under control.

The factory on a nondescript industrial estate in Cheongju, south of Seoul, is ramping up production of kits that could be crucial to the world's anti-virus efforts.

It is now making 350,000 tests a day -- almost as many as the South has used in the entire outbreak so far -- up from 20,000 in January.

And managers plan to start 24-hour operations next month, taking daily output to more than a million."

Why isn't trump getting similar results in the US?


  • fka
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    • September 05, 2019, 06:37:44 pm
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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #413 on: March 28, 2020, 09:09:51 am »
Come on, DeMartino. Try a new argument. We know you need a distraction from Trump's behavior, but "The House Democrats are equally responsible" fails at every hurdle.

1) As you probably know (and hope that others reading this forum don't), the departments of Health and Human Services and Homeland Security are under the direct management of the executive branch. There are no agencies controlled by the House that were equally capable of performing meaningful interventions.

2) As you probably also know, McConnell has effectively frozen Senate consideration of Democrat-sponsored House bills. In this session of Congress, the House has passed more than 400 bills, less than 20% of which have been taken up by the Senate, which is focused on stacking federal courts with Christian fundamentalists and right-wing ideologues. McConnell is proud of this and openly boasts about it. The idea that between, say, mid-January and early March, the House could've written a bill that would have passed the Senate and been signed into law by Trump, despite its contents explicitly contradicting what Trump was saying at the time, is absurd.

3) Again, there were no prominent Democrats - that I'm aware of - telling the public that the virus was nothing to worry about and would disappear "like a miracle". If you want to assign equal responsibility, you have to work on the premise that there was some consistency in outlook. I could be wrong, but I haven't seen anything to suggest this. Currently, they are not sending confused and contradictory messages about the importance of social distancing or the efficacy of unproven drugs. That's all on Trump.

So, you're obviously going to flaunt all sorts of twisted logic to defend Trump. I'd suggest something like the Scott Adams approach, which would at least be more difficult to disprove. You could try something along the lines of "Trump is not sowing confusion by exaggerating the delivery date of a vaccine, but using highly persuasive subliminal anchor words to motivate scientists and accelerate the production of the vaccine." Or "By insulting certain state governors and suggesting that they grovel if they want federal assistance, Trump is ingeniously directing media scrutiny to those governors' performances, in turn forcing them to work more effectively. It's a technique learned from inheriting tens of millions of dollars from your father the rough-and-tumble world of construction, something that liberal elites with uncalloused hands could never understand."

It's bullshit, of course, but it's easier to sustain this kind of bullshit than your previous version.

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  • Savant
  • The Legend

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    • April 07, 2012, 11:35:31 pm
Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #414 on: March 28, 2020, 10:46:04 am »
Trump is a POS who is in way over his head. As long as the Stock Market kept rising then he would have considered himself to be the bestest President ever.

Now, in a time of crisis, the country needs leadership, hope and hard-work from its President. Trump doesn't show anything above his usual campaign rally hostility towards others.



  • Mr C
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
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Re: Trump will win in 2020
« Reply #415 on: March 28, 2020, 10:05:17 pm »
Trump was not obviously guilty. Obstruction of Congress wasn't established outside of the norms of American governance, nor abuse of power. It was pure theater.
And while they were focused on that they ignored coronavirus.

On Feb. 5, Sen. Chris Murphy (Connecticut Democrat) tweeted: “Just left the Administration briefing on Coronavirus. Bottom line: they aren't taking this seriously enough. Notably, no request for ANY emergency funding, which is a big mistake. Local health systems need supplies, training, screening staff etc. And they need it now.”

So, y'know, you're wrong as always, as US cases pass 105,000 and deaths approach 2,000.  But please, continue to defend this inept Cheeto and deflect blame.  Also, see what strawman argument you can come up with for how that woman Michigan governor is responsible.  Come on, you can do it.