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Re: Ex-teacher who worked in Korea charged with spying in China
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2019, 07:49:15 am »
Wow that is some potent Asian whataboutism. Did you just discover Marx or something?
Uhm...

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British common law was created to protect the rights of the aristocracy from the King, and these rights were eventually given to the entire population. Laws are enforced to a fault but at least they're usually consistent, except when someone like Trump controls the legal system and fucks everything up to protect himself.
Well, except for the blacks and the Indians machinegunned for wanting basic human rights, but yeah at least the laws were consistent. ROFL.


Re: Ex-teacher who worked in Korea charged with spying in China
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2019, 12:31:30 pm »
Wow that is some potent Asian whataboutism. Did you just discover Marx or something?
Uhm...

Well? It's probably some Korean nationalist who thinks bad things the West did 150 years ago make bad things Korea does today perfectly fine and normal. Pretty common attitude among naive Marxists. You made the exact same argument, though you support Trump's modern gulags so you don't really have an argument to make here.
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Re: Ex-teacher who worked in Korea charged with spying in China
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2019, 01:26:07 pm »
Well? It's probably some Korean nationalist who thinks bad things the West did 150 years ago make bad things Korea does today perfectly fine and normal.
Right, but since his thought is based on Marx and he is western, wouldn't that make it Western whataboutism? Now if he was citing Chairman Mao or he was from China, then Asian whataboutism would apply.

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You made the exact same argument, though you support Trump's modern gulags so you don't really have an argument to make here.
Modern gulags?  :laugh:

You mean the airconditioned detention facility where people who try to sneak in ILLEGALLY are detained. In the meantime they get 3 squares, schooling, cable TV, places for their kids to play and toys, etc.

Nothing says gulag like 3 free squares, no random executions, no forced labor, and A/C!


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Re: Ex-teacher who worked in Korea charged with spying in China
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2019, 06:21:16 pm »
I lived and worked as a teacher in China for a while. I never felt comfortable or safe, really. A couple of the cool students who were switched on due to VPN's and English abilities plenty good enough to follow the outside world told me there were "party members" in every class who reported on the foreign teachers etc. They said the university could bug phones if they wanted and someone was always watching us.

It could have been paranoid jive, but I believed them.



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Re: Ex-teacher who worked in Korea charged with spying in China
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2019, 07:00:54 pm »
Well? It's probably some Korean nationalist who thinks bad things the West did 150 years ago make bad things Korea does today perfectly fine and normal.
Right, but since his thought is based on Marx and he is western, wouldn't that make it Western whataboutism? Now if he was citing Chairman Mao or he was from China, then Asian whataboutism would apply.

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You made the exact same argument, though you support Trump's modern gulags so you don't really have an argument to make here.
Modern gulags?  :laugh:

You mean the airconditioned detention facility where people who try to sneak in ILLEGALLY are detained. In the meantime they get 3 squares, schooling, cable TV, places for their kids to play and toys, etc.

Nothing says gulag like 3 free squares, no random executions, no forced labor, and A/C!
Five children now dead in the last six months--a real holiday camp.


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Re: Ex-teacher who worked in Korea charged with spying in China
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2019, 08:10:54 pm »
China has been ruled by tyrants for thousands of years, they wrote the book on this shit.
And up to about 100 years ago Europe was the same. Except they managed to colonize most of the world for their own economic exploitation.

Anyways, that Bannon guy seems like a nutbar.

Wow that is some potent Asian whataboutism. Did you just discover Marx or something? Asian legal systems were created to allow an Emperor to control his subjects, not to protect the people. It's not so harsh today in a country like Korea but you still have laws that aren't enforced until someone needs to be made an example of. British common law was created to protect the rights of the aristocracy from the King, and these rights were eventually given to the entire population. Laws are enforced to a fault but at least they're usually consistent, except when someone like Trump controls the legal system and fucks everything up to protect himself.
You do realize that Korea's legal system is mostly based on the European, and American legal systems. Keep in mind that Korea's democracy is barely 30 years old, therefore it's legal system is still very much a work in progress with little tradition. Yes it does have elements of archaic laws from times past, but they are slowly addressing them, and tossing the bad ones out.

I'm curious, outside of civil law, and bylaws, what criminal laws you see not being enforce?


Re: Ex-teacher who worked in Korea charged with spying in China
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2019, 10:28:26 pm »
Five children now dead in the last six months--a real holiday camp.
And how many of those are due to the conditions there? The most recent one had a congenital heart defect and they did everything could to save her. When you have children being brought on journeys of hundreds or thousands of miles with little sanitation, it's hard to place the blame on the detention centers, particularly when those centers offer conditions far superior to those on the road. I mean, just mathematically there are bound to be a certain number of unpreventable deaths when you have tens or hundreds of thousands trying to cross.