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  • Cyanea
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The US / Iran conflict.
« on: May 14, 2019, 11:53:43 pm »
My guess is that a war with Iran is increasingly likely to happen, probably within the next 1-3 years.

Today Saudi is claiming two of their tankers were attacked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Au_A_Y9RiE

This after Trump put sanctions on iranian oil and Iran said they will no longer abide by limits on enriching uranium..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IZW6AOCLE4&t=160s



Catch my drift?


  • gogators!
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Re: The US / Iran conflict.
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2019, 04:56:50 am »
If gas goes to $3 trump will go to war. His only argument for re-election is the economy and if people, so many driving trucks and SUVs that are bigger than  Korean one-rooms, start feeling poor at the pump, his chances become slim and none. Of course a war would probably push gas prices higher.

Besides, he probably wants to be a wartime president, for his "legacy" and all.


  • T.J.
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Re: The US / Iran conflict.
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2019, 08:20:56 am »
US Embassy staff have been ordered out of Iraq. Never a good sign.
"An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock."

-Will Rogers


Re: The US / Iran conflict.
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2019, 10:06:42 am »
Or we could be on the verge of a breakthrough. Remember last time when we had "rocket man?" Everyone was convinced that maniac at Trump was about to start a war.

A lot of times what looks like a runup to war can in fact be posturing leading in to negotiations.


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Re: The US / Iran conflict.
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2019, 11:32:45 pm »
Or we could be on the verge of a breakthrough. Remember last time when we had "rocket man?" Everyone was convinced that maniac at Trump was about to start a war.

A lot of times what looks like a runup to war can in fact be posturing leading in to negotiations.
What breakthrough are you talking about? Nothing has changed with NK.

A photo op is not a breakthrough.


Re: The US / Iran conflict.
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2019, 11:34:36 am »
Or we could be on the verge of a breakthrough. Remember last time when we had "rocket man?" Everyone was convinced that maniac at Trump was about to start a war.

A lot of times what looks like a runup to war can in fact be posturing leading in to negotiations.
What breakthrough are you talking about? Nothing has changed with NK.

A photo op is not a breakthrough.
When was the last nuclear or long-range missile test?


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Re: The US / Iran conflict.
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2019, 12:27:25 pm »
Or we could be on the verge of a breakthrough. Remember last time when we had "rocket man?" Everyone was convinced that maniac at Trump was about to start a war.

A lot of times what looks like a runup to war can in fact be posturing leading in to negotiations.
What breakthrough are you talking about? Nothing has changed with NK.

A photo op is not a breakthrough.
When was the last nuclear or long-range missile test?

The last missile test was a few days ago...landed in the Sea of Japan.


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Re: The US / Iran conflict.
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2019, 01:50:50 pm »

When was the last nuclear or long-range missile test?


The last missile test was a few days ago...landed in the Sea of Japan.

Reading comprehension is strong in this one.
"An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock."

-Will Rogers


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Re: The US / Iran conflict.
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2019, 04:29:22 pm »

When was the last nuclear or long-range missile test?


The last missile test was a few days ago...landed in the Sea of Japan.

Reading comprehension is strong in this one.

...for N.K., that IS long range.


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Re: The US / Iran conflict.
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2019, 10:03:23 pm »
Or we could be on the verge of a breakthrough. Remember last time when we had "rocket man?" Everyone was convinced that maniac at Trump was about to start a war.

A lot of times what looks like a runup to war can in fact be posturing leading in to negotiations.
What breakthrough are you talking about? Nothing has changed with NK.

A photo op is not a breakthrough.
When was the last nuclear or long-range missile test?
"Week-old satellite images show movement at North Korea’s main nuclear site that could be associated with the reprocessing of radioactive material into bomb fuel, a US thinktank has reported.

Any new reprocessing activity would underscore the failure of a second summit between Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un in Hanoi in late February to make progress toward North Korea’s denuclearisation.

Washington’s Center for Strategic and International Studies said satellite imagery of North Korea’s Yongbyon nuclear site from 12 April showed five specialised railcars near its uranium enrichment facility and radiochemistry laboratory."


Re: The US / Iran conflict.
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2019, 12:29:46 pm »

When was the last nuclear or long-range missile test?


The last missile test was a few days ago...landed in the Sea of Japan.

Reading comprehension is strong in this one.

...for N.K., that IS long range.

You do realize that someone could throw a rock from the coast of Hamhung and it would land in the Sea of Japan, right?

"Week-old satellite images show movement at North Korea’s main nuclear site that could be associated with the reprocessing of radioactive material into bomb fuel, a US thinktank has reported.
That's about as significant as "anonymous sources linked to..."


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Re: The US / Iran conflict.
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2019, 12:43:41 pm »
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You do realize that someone could throw a rock from the coast of Hamhung and it would land in the Sea of Japan, right?


As I said, for N.K. that is long range.  Seriously, Koreans as a WHOLE, are finally at the point of appreciating...a chair and all its uses.  How long did THAT take them?  So again....it is long range for N.K.

But, ,go on....


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Re: The US / Iran conflict.
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2019, 11:02:30 pm »

When was the last nuclear or long-range missile test?


The last missile test was a few days ago...landed in the Sea of Japan.

Reading comprehension is strong in this one.

...for N.K., that IS long range.

You do realize that someone could throw a rock from the coast of Hamhung and it would land in the Sea of Japan, right?

"Week-old satellite images show movement at North Korea’s main nuclear site that could be associated with the reprocessing of radioactive material into bomb fuel, a US thinktank has reported.
That's about as significant as "anonymous sources linked to..."
LOL.

Anonymous sources--you mean like Deep Throat?


Re: The US / Iran conflict.
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2019, 02:52:48 am »
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You do realize that someone could throw a rock from the coast of Hamhung and it would land in the Sea of Japan, right?


As I said, for N.K. that is long range.  Seriously, Koreans as a WHOLE, are finally at the point of appreciating...a chair and all its uses.  How long did THAT take them?  So again....it is long range for N.K.

But, ,go on....


Actually it's not. Also, as far as sitting on the floor, it's also due to conservation of space as well as health. Also, squat toilets are healthier than sitting. If you have good posture and aren't overweight, you should be fine. Now, that all being said, having been raised with chairs and sitting toilets, I prefer them, but this isn't as open and shut as you think it is. Just because something is different, doesn't make it wrong or stupid.



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Re: The US / Iran conflict.
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2019, 05:44:54 am »
The biggest problem with this conflict is that it is playing into Winnie the Pooh's hands. He is going to back Iran.
There is no known medical cure for stupidity!


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Re: The US / Iran conflict.
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2019, 08:09:24 am »
When was the last nuclear or long-range missile test?
North Korea tested an Iskander missile on May 4th, firing it into the Sea of Japan.
This is significant for 2 reasons: they can maneuver in flight, which allows them to circumvent some missile defenses, and they are capable of carrying nuclear warheads. In essence, it could be considered to be a nuclear missile test.  :undecided:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_Korean_missile_tests#Timeline


Re: The US / Iran conflict.
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2019, 08:47:14 am »
When was the last nuclear or long-range missile test?
North Korea tested an Iskander missile on May 4th, firing it into the Sea of Japan.
This is significant for 2 reasons: they can maneuver in flight, which allows them to circumvent some missile defenses, and they are capable of carrying nuclear warheads. In essence, it could be considered to be a nuclear missile test.  :undecided:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_Korean_missile_tests#Timeline
It could...if you really stretch the definition. I mean, nuclear warheads can be equipped to Soviet-era 152mm artillery pieces. Therefore, some North Korean 19 year old trying to hit a dilapidated bunker at the artillery school firing range could be construed as a "nuclear test".


Re: The US / Iran conflict.
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2019, 09:12:18 am »
The biggest problem with this conflict is that it is playing into Winnie the Pooh's hands. He is going to back Iran.

Russia also supports Iran. Currently there is a cold proxy war with Saudi Arabia and Israel on one side backed by Trump (not the American people), and Iran and Syria on the other side supported by Russia and China. Trump hates Iran only because they talked to Obama, even though he thinks it's fine to be buddy-buddy with the worst country in the world (North Korea). Trump probably hasn't realized yet that he's opposing his lover Putin by antagonizing Iran, probably because he's a complete moron and appears to be insane to some degree.
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Re: The US / Iran conflict.
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2019, 09:34:11 am »
When was the last nuclear or long-range missile test?
North Korea tested an Iskander missile on May 4th, firing it into the Sea of Japan.
This is significant for 2 reasons: they can maneuver in flight, which allows them to circumvent some missile defenses, and they are capable of carrying nuclear warheads. In essence, it could be considered to be a nuclear missile test.  :undecided:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_Korean_missile_tests#Timeline
It could...if you really stretch the definition. I mean, nuclear warheads can be equipped to Soviet-era 152mm artillery pieces. Therefore, some North Korean 19 year old trying to hit a dilapidated bunker at the artillery school firing range could be construed as a "nuclear test".
Sorry, I worded that poorly. There are missiles with nuclear payloads that have been designed specifically for the Iskander system. By testing the system, they are also testing their short range nuclear warhead delivery capacity. Whether or not they presently have the nukes is almost beside the point: it's the delivery system that is being tested, not the warhead itself.
   In any case, the NK isn't stupid: the Iskander is a robust system made to handle many different kinds of weapons (including conventional, chemical, and nuclear) which provides ample deniability.  :undecided:
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