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  • DeiseBoy
  • Waygookin

    • 16

    • March 24, 2014, 07:23:06 am
    • Seoul, South Korea
Security deposit
« on: March 06, 2019, 12:16:36 pm »
Does anyone else who got a public school job through EPIK in the past 5 years remember a security deposit being taken from their wages over the first 3 months of their contract?

The amount might vary but for me it was 300,000 won each month so 900,000 won total.

Am I right in thinking this is to cover the school for any unpaid expenses or damages after I leave?

Most of the school staff have changed since 5 years ago including my co-teachers and admin staff so they say they don't know about any of this.

Does anyone have some proof I can show them? The Incheon MOE co-ordinator has not answered yet and they're starting to get pushy about me leaving more money as a security deposit.


  • thunderlips
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1583

    • June 07, 2012, 10:01:55 am
    • South Korea
Re: Security deposit
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2019, 12:20:19 pm »
In JLP it is 300,000 for 3 months for a total of 600,000 won. You may have to go to your bank and get the transactions printed, you may have to pay a small fee. If you used a bank book and saved your old ones see it you can show your deposits.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2019, 12:23:34 pm by thunderlips »


Re: Security deposit
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2019, 12:22:17 pm »
For EPIK I think it's usually 500,000 paid over a couple of months.  It's to cover any damages when you leave but once the landlord checks the apartment and everything is fine then you get all of that money back.

There should be no "leaving money behind" to cover unpaid expenses.  Your coteachers should help you to check and pay your final utility bills.


Re: Security deposit
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2019, 12:24:14 pm »
so you're saying you've paid it?  and you're leaving and you want it back, but everyone has changed?

if you've worked at the same school the whole time, you can access your payslips on the NEIS system, that should show the money was taken.


  • DeiseBoy
  • Waygookin

    • 16

    • March 24, 2014, 07:23:06 am
    • Seoul, South Korea
Re: Security deposit
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2019, 12:28:00 pm »
Yeah, I paid it 5 years ago over the first 3 months. I'm pretty sure it was 300,000 per month. But I think each office of education has different rules regarding how much and for how many months. I'm in Incheon. I'll try to find some evidence from the bank or NEIS because the school admin are saying they know nothing about it.


  • thunderlips
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1583

    • June 07, 2012, 10:01:55 am
    • South Korea
Re: Security deposit
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2019, 12:33:36 pm »
so you're saying you've paid it?  and you're leaving and you want it back, but everyone has changed?

if you've worked at the same school the whole time, you can access your payslips on the NEIS system, that should show the money was taken.

Not all schools update the NETs payslips into NEIS. Mine doesn't I wish they would.


Re: Security deposit
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2019, 12:38:57 pm »
so you're saying you've paid it?  and you're leaving and you want it back, but everyone has changed?

if you've worked at the same school the whole time, you can access your payslips on the NEIS system, that should show the money was taken.

Not all schools update the NETs payslips into NEIS. Mine doesn't I wish they would.

that'd be a pain in the bum. i've been at my current school for three years and can go back and check it.  i thought legally now, they have to because that's the stuff they pull up in January for your tax readjustment. 

deiseboy, do you know how to get it on NEIS?

-log in to the NEIS 업무포털
-click on the 나이스
-wait for it to load up and give you a couple of annoying popups.
-to the left is 나의 멘유 click on 급여
-then click on 지급명세서
-then to the right now hopefully you'll have some drop down bits where you can choose the year and month and you can save as PDF/excel or something else.


  • DeiseBoy
  • Waygookin

    • 16

    • March 24, 2014, 07:23:06 am
    • Seoul, South Korea
Re: Security deposit
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2019, 12:41:53 pm »
so you're saying you've paid it?  and you're leaving and you want it back, but everyone has changed?

if you've worked at the same school the whole time, you can access your payslips on the NEIS system, that should show the money was taken.

Not all schools update the NETs payslips into NEIS. Mine doesn't I wish they would.

that'd be a pain in the bum. i've been at my current school for three years and can go back and check it.  i thought legally now, they have to because that's the stuff they pull up in January for your tax readjustment. 

deiseboy, do you know how to get it on NEIS?

-log in to the NEIS 업무포털
-click on the 나이스
-wait for it to load up and give you a couple of annoying popups.
-to the left is 나의 멘유 click on 급여
-then click on 지급명세서
-then to the right now hopefully you'll have some drop down bits where you can choose the year and month and you can save as PDF/excel or something else.

Okay, thanks very much. I'll see what I can find.


  • Kayos
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1378

    • March 31, 2016, 07:13:57 pm
    • NZ
Re: Security deposit
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2019, 01:57:43 pm »
In JLP it is 300,000 for 3 months for a total of 600,000 won. You may have to go to your bank and get the transactions printed, you may have to pay a small fee. If you used a bank book and saved your old ones see it you can show your deposits.

200,000 for 3 months in JLP, I'm there too :)


  • kyndo
  • Moderator LVL 1

    • 5272

    • March 03, 2011, 09:45:24 am
    • Gyeongsangbuk-do
Re: Security deposit
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2019, 02:52:57 pm »
In JLP it is 300,000 for 3 months for a total of 600,000 won. You may have to go to your bank and get the transactions printed, you may have to pay a small fee. If you used a bank book and saved your old ones see it you can show your deposits.

200,000 for 3 months in JLP, I'm there too :)

Wait. Now I'm confused...
Is it 300,000 for 3 months for a total of 600,000 won or 200,00 for 3 months for a total of 600,000 won?
It can't be both!
 :sad:


  • lhelena
  • Veteran

    • 104

    • March 11, 2018, 01:57:14 pm
    • Anseong
Re: Security deposit
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2019, 03:12:00 pm »
I paid 300,000 over 3 months (equaling 900,000 because 3 x 3=9) when I came in last spring. I'm in Gyeonggi-do with EPIK. As far as I know it's the same for all Gyeonggi-do POE teachers. And I've not been asked to pay it again so it must just be a one time thing when you first move in to a new place.

It should also be mentioned in your contract under the housing section.


  • thunderlips
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1583

    • June 07, 2012, 10:01:55 am
    • South Korea
Re: Security deposit
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2019, 03:28:27 pm »
In JLP it is 300,000 for 3 months for a total of 600,000 won. You may have to go to your bank and get the transactions printed, you may have to pay a small fee. If you used a bank book and saved your old ones see it you can show your deposits.

200,000 for 3 months in JLP, I'm there too :)

Wait. Now I'm confused...
Is it 300,000 for 3 months for a total of 600,000 won or 200,00 for 3 months for a total of 600,000 won?
It can't be both!
 :sad:

200 my mistake in typing.


  • kyndo
  • Moderator LVL 1

    • 5272

    • March 03, 2011, 09:45:24 am
    • Gyeongsangbuk-do
Re: Security deposit
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2019, 05:59:41 pm »
200 my mistake in typing.
I figured it wasn't the math, but wasn't sure which number was the typo.  :wink:


  • OnNut81
  • Expert Waygook

    • 848

    • April 01, 2011, 03:01:41 pm
    • Anyang
Re: Security deposit
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2019, 07:48:05 am »
In JLP it is 300,000 for 3 months for a total of 600,000 won. You may have to go to your bank and get the transactions printed, you may have to pay a small fee. If you used a bank book and saved your old ones see it you can show your deposits.

200,000 for 3 months in JLP, I'm there too :)

Wait. Now I'm confused...
Is it 300,000 for 3 months for a total of 600,000 won or 200,00 for 3 months for a total of 600,000 won?
It can't be both!
 :sad:

It's these pretending to be confused when someone has made an obvious typo that irks me.  It was pretty clear the security deposit was 600,000.  You weren't really confused.


Kyndo: Wait. Now I'm confused...
 or 200,00 for 3 months for a total of 600,000 won?
It can't be both!
 :sad:

Hold on a minute.  I'm lost.  How could 200,00 for 3 months ever equal 600,000 won? 

See?  Pretend confusion is annoying. 


Re: Security deposit
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2019, 08:07:34 am »
was thinking about this yesterday.  a pay slip or the NEIS thing would surely be the only concrete way to show that 300 000 won or something was taken each month.  surely, showing the bank book with a reduced amount doesn't really show the money was taken, especially how much, if you see what I mean.  if they showed the signed 2013 contract + bank book, that might work.  but admin now may not know what deductions were made back then, more so if they've never had native teacher admin to do. 


Re: Security deposit
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2019, 08:42:14 am »
I was thinking back to how I did it five years ago...

I paid it in cash directly to my coteacher so I asked her for a receipt and she looked at me like I'd just spoken Swahili  :laugh:

I think she couldn't get her head around why I wanted her to write a receipt haha.


  • kyndo
  • Moderator LVL 1

    • 5272

    • March 03, 2011, 09:45:24 am
    • Gyeongsangbuk-do
Re: Security deposit
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2019, 08:49:03 am »
It's these pretending to be confused when someone has made an obvious typo that irks me.  It was pretty clear the security deposit was 600,000.  You weren't really confused.


Kyndo: Wait. Now I'm confused...
 or 200,00 for 3 months for a total of 600,000 won?
It can't be both!
 :sad:

Hold on a minute.  I'm lost.  How could 200,00 for 3 months ever equal 600,000 won? 

See?  Pretend confusion is annoying.
I *was* making fun of his typo, true, but just take a look at his avatar: thunderlips is tough. He can take a bit of gentle ribbing.
And I was honestly curious if it was 3x300 or 3x200. My POE hasn't made us pay deposits as of yet, and I feel it's only a matter of time until we're slapped with one as well.


Edit: Oh wait, he got rid of his avatar.  :sad:  Bummer: it was cool.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2019, 08:54:42 am by kyndo »


  • OnNut81
  • Expert Waygook

    • 848

    • April 01, 2011, 03:01:41 pm
    • Anyang
Re: Security deposit
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2019, 09:38:34 am »
Kyndo, you don'[t pay security deposits?  Nice to hear there is a trusting POE out there.  Although, I guess I understand a smaller deposit if you're in school housing, but to pay a between the 900k and a little over a million in my previous city when I don't use their housing is a bit of a crock in my opinion. 


  • kyndo
  • Moderator LVL 1

    • 5272

    • March 03, 2011, 09:45:24 am
    • Gyeongsangbuk-do
Re: Security deposit
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2019, 10:11:34 am »
Kyndo, you don'[t pay security deposits?  Nice to hear there is a trusting POE out there.  Although, I guess I understand a smaller deposit if you're in school housing, but to pay a between the 900k and a little over a million in my previous city when I don't use their housing is a bit of a crock in my opinion.
    Nope. The Gyeongsangbuk-do EPIK contract definitely doesn't mention anything about security deposits (I've just reread it). Yet.

    I lived in school provided housing from 2011 to 2016, and only the last year (when I moved to a new place) did I have to pay a security deposit, and that was at the behest of the land-lady, not something my contract required me to do. Since then I've taken the 400k living allowance and have found my own apartment (everybody who plans to live in Korea longer than 2 or 3 years ought to do this: one rooms are crap, and there are some amazing deals on proper apartments out there), and haven't had to worry about EPIK related deposits.
    I'm just worried that if it does appear in the Gyeong-buk contract, the POE will go the stupid route (like your did, apparently) and make everybody pay it, even the folk who are arranging their own housing. I agree that that would be really frustrating.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2019, 10:25:51 am by kyndo »


Re: Security deposit
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2019, 10:17:48 am »
I have my own housing and still had money deducted. I asked them to return it at the end of the year given that my housing is in my name, but they pointed to the clause in the contract which explains that it's a deposit to cover liability in general, not just for housing. I have savings and the contract supports their argument, so I didn't bother arguing.