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Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #60 on: May 23, 2020, 07:36:24 am »
Do a blog post where you fight that CO4 character. I'd click on a link to watch that.



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  • chimp
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Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #61 on: May 23, 2020, 07:42:44 am »
Or, maybe you can do a post recommending a samgyeopsal restaurant in Cheonan. It's a fresh subject and viewers will be dazzled with your Korean when you break the script saying "목살 2인분 주세요". I for one (or is that "I for 1인분"?) would be blown away.
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Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #62 on: July 24, 2020, 02:57:04 pm »
Made a video of common English mistakes out kids make and give real examples.

Bored/Boring, Scared/Scary and Fun/Funny

Hope it's useful.

https://youtu.be/2AF9MXDQt0g
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Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #63 on: July 24, 2020, 03:07:28 pm »
You have the best shirts dude. Wish I could pull them off. (Not literally)


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Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #64 on: July 24, 2020, 03:17:47 pm »
You have the best shirts dude. Wish I could pull them off. (Not literally)

That's kind of you to say. :)
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  • oglop
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Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #65 on: July 24, 2020, 05:44:38 pm »
Made a video of common English mistakes out kids make and give real examples.

Bored/Boring, Scared/Scary and Fun/Funny

Hope it's useful.

https://youtu.be/2AF9MXDQt0g
nice. i always wondered the difference between these words. thanks


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Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #66 on: July 24, 2020, 06:39:46 pm »
'fun' is strictly speaking a noun - 'have fun', 'a lot of fun' etc. and while it can act as an adjective, 'we had a fun time' it doesn't behave like one in other ways, e.g. you can't use it as a comparative - 'funner' or with a modifier - it was very fun. I guess how much of this you teach depends on the level but I usually teach 'fun' as a noun and don't comment when they use it as an adjective correctly. 


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Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #67 on: July 25, 2020, 09:12:41 am »
Might be a regional thing, because where I come from (the absolute boondocks), dumping modifiers in front of fun is pretty common. "It was really, truly, outrageously fun." etc etc


Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #68 on: July 25, 2020, 10:21:18 am »
'fun' is strictly speaking a noun - 'have fun', 'a lot of fun' etc. and while it can act as an adjective, 'we had a fun time' it doesn't behave like one in other ways, e.g. you can't use it as a comparative - 'funner' or with a modifier - it was very fun. I guess how much of this you teach depends on the level but I usually teach 'fun' as a noun and don't comment when they use it as an adjective correctly.

Since when does “fun” not behave lot any other adjective? “Seeing movies is more fun than riding bikes.” I see nothing wrong with that sentence. (Although “funner” does strike me as awkward.) “The movie was really fun.” Again, how can you take issue with that?


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Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #69 on: July 25, 2020, 10:35:42 am »
Now you come to mention it, 'really fun' does sound OK but 'very fun' still doesn't.  I guess in the expression 'more fun' it could also be acting as a noun.  I'm thinking it's probably developing into an adjective from a noun but hasn't taken on all the adjective attributes yet.

One internet source says

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When you start using “fun” as an adjective, however, some people think the fun has stopped. Some dictionaries include “fun,” the adjective, and some don’t.

The younger you are the more likely you are to think there’s nothing wrong with a sentence that uses “fun” as an adjective such as the sentence “Squiggly brought fun games.” In that sentence “fun” is an adjective that modifies the noun “games.” You could say “Squiggly brought fun games,” “Squiggly brought boring games,” or “Squiggly brought yellow games.” “Fun,” “boring,” and “yellow” are all adjectives.

When I said “Words are fun,” it was the grammatical equivalent of saying “Words are boring” or “Words are yellow.”

Modern sources tend to grudgingly accept “fun” as an adjective. For example, Garner’s Modern American Usage says “fun” as an adjective has reached the stage where it “becomes commonplace even among many well-educated people but is still avoided in careful usage.”

So maybe it's an age thing.
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Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #70 on: July 25, 2020, 11:31:46 am »
hmm. really fun sounds okay to me, very fun sounds strange. but extremely/incredibly fun sounds ok, too.

weird innit. might be right its usage is changing. hope "funner" doesn't start becoming the norm though


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Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #71 on: July 25, 2020, 01:17:49 pm »
The point was to juxtapose when to use fun or funny........

We've all heard that student's weekends were "funny."

Doesn't really make any sense, not grammatically, but generally/colloquially.
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Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #72 on: July 25, 2020, 01:42:16 pm »
Yes but if a student says my weekend was 'very funny' would you tell him to say 'very fun.'?  Or if he said 'very fun' would you correct it?
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Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #73 on: July 25, 2020, 02:36:45 pm »
One internet source says...
So maybe it's an age thing.

Fair enough.

The point was to juxtapose when to use fun or funny........

We've all heard that student's weekends were "funny."

Doesn't really make any sense, not grammatically, but generally/colloquially.

Fun how that works, innit?  :wink:

I can think of how a weekend could be funny (“Oh my god, my co-worker set me up on a blind date last Saturday... with my own mother!”  :shocked:), but yeah, can’t imagine a Korean kid using funny in such a nuanced way.

Yes but if a student says my weekend was 'very funny' would you tell him to say 'very fun.'?  Or if he said 'very fun' would you correct it?

I think the use of the intensifier “very” happens to be offensive in most cases. Just generally a poor modifier.


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Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #74 on: July 25, 2020, 06:12:21 pm »
Yes but if a student says my weekend was 'very funny' would you tell him to say 'very fun.'?  Or if he said 'very fun' would you correct it?

I'm not sure why you would correct "I had a very fun weekend."

Is this a "two sides of the pond" kind of thing?
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Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #75 on: July 25, 2020, 06:37:56 pm »
A lot of people think 'fun' should only be used as a noun. Google it if you're interested.


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Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #76 on: July 25, 2020, 09:17:39 pm »
stoat...

adjective: funny
noun: fun

That was what he was trying to sort out...CAUSE THOSE ARE COMMON MISTAKES KOREANS MAKE...stop giving the guy in the paisley shirt a hard time!

Fun is used as a noun you twit!


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Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #77 on: July 25, 2020, 09:20:52 pm »
Yes but if a student says my weekend was 'very funny' would you tell him to say 'very fun.'?  Or if he said 'very fun' would you correct it?

No you would ask him why it was so funny?  What made it funny?  Did you laugh a lot?


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Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #78 on: July 25, 2020, 09:32:57 pm »
read the whole thread when you're sober.  The concepts aren't that difficult.


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Re: Kevin Grabb
« Reply #79 on: July 31, 2020, 02:24:23 pm »
The first thing to say is that this is definitely not pyramid selling, OK?