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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #280 on: December 16, 2019, 10:25:38 am »

They decide what their interests are. Not you. Not the news. Not Channel 4 chat shows. Not Z-List celebs on Twitter. Them.

You seem to be truly against a Tory government. Then WHY are you not addressing the things that people care about? Why are you not having conversations with them about local projects, the changes in their communities, the obvious mass immigration and segregation that has occurred in these places. Why are you unwilling to have a conversation, not with people in the internet bubble, but on doorsteps? Perhaps you will hear things that you don't want to hear. The reality.

I think I know why. Because you have pushed the conversation into the ground, you've silenced them, you've slandered them, you treated them like dirt because they chose LEAVE and don't think the same way as you. They are screamed at by lunatics whenever they try and tell you whats wrong. You have taken their voice away.

They only way they can speak is with an X. And a slient 'get f*****' is just as powerful as a loud one.



You have answered this question yourself.

These people decided to segregate themselves. They don't want to talk, they don't want to be engaged, they don't want to change. They have an idea in their minds and that's it, nothing will change it.

Interesting how you glossed over everything I posted and STILL expect me to pander to people who refuse to acknowledge my experience and existence. Welcome to BAME, LGBTQ, muslim, hundu and immigrant life in general in the UK. Suck all the discrimination up, but also suck up to those who discriminate against you...because that's what is expected of you. If these people are happy with the last 9 years of Tory rule, more power to them! They won, they get to lie in the bed they made for themselves.

As for me and other people who have spent our lives knowing what it means to be marginalised in Britain...yeah, sucking up to people who want nothing to do with us isn't an option. The projects are there for all to see. The changes are there for all to see. The opportunities for engagement are there for anyone who wants to take that first step...but little England has decided it likes being little.

Good luck working with the people who can't wait to start charging you £10 for a packet of paracetamol...becau se god forbid someone call you out on your bigotry!

Little England IS England. It IS the UK. London is not. And that is what you cannot seem to understand. You are stuck on this multicultural obsession. Terry and Bob down the pub don't give two f**** about the colour of your skin, who you want to f*** at the weekend, where you take a dump, what country you are from, as long as you are sound to talk to, to work with, to play footie on sunday with. Thats what being British is all about.

Labour have got to drop this Identity politics and fast, because the UK (including MANY muslims, BAME, and LGBT people by the way) are sick to the back teeth of it and told you last week. Clear. As. Day. It is divisive and toxic.

Immigrants who come to the UK and actually attempt to become British assimilate just fine, they are the people who are welcomed into communities. But those who come to the UK, say how bad it is, how racist we all are, how much they want things to be like where they came from. Those are the people who have ruined it for the others.

As for the 10 quid paracetamol... The propaganda has clearly got to you.

Brexit is happening. And a shed load of BAME, Muslim, LGBT people voted for it. Not just the 'old racist whiteys'. The sooner you get used to it and accept this, the easier it will be for you.


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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #281 on: December 16, 2019, 11:11:22 am »
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Terry and Bob down the pub don't give two f**** about the colour of your skin, who you want to f*** at the weekend, where you take a dump, what country you are from

But Terry and Bob will be the first to call you a black c*nt, a p*ki, a bender a Polak, a ch*nk and all sorts of other derogatory names. They'll be the ones to chuck eggs at your door one week and spray paint it the next. These are real experiences that are recorded everyday in Britain.

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Little England IS England. It IS the UK.

That's not what the Polls say. Nationalists now control Northern Ireland...guess why. The SNP hold 80% of seats in Scotland...guess why. Labour still holds Wales...guess why. Little England its literally England outside of the major cities, which have experienced flight from people who only want to be around those who look like them.

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You are stuck on this multicultural obsession

Give it a rest. It's not an obsession...It is literally an existence. Britain is home to people of all colours, faiths, creeds, traditions, sexual orientation etc. One minute you claim it's not about multiculturalism, the next minute you're complaining there's too much focus on multiculturalism. Which is it? Your perpetual shifting of the goal sticks shows how confusing your point is.

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Labour have got to drop this Identity politics

What is Brexit about again if not the ultimate case of identity politics? When has there ever been politics without identity?

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Immigrants who come to the UK and actually attempt to become British assimilate just fine, they are the people who are welcomed into communities. But those who come to the UK, say how bad it is, how racist we all are, how much they want things to be like where they came from. Those are the people who have ruined it for the others.

What is your definition of 'assimilate' and 'attempt to become British'? Notice how your preference of immigrants is for those who keep their mouths shut and suck up all the muck...but if anyone dare speaks out there'll be hell to pay!


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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #282 on: December 16, 2019, 11:43:58 am »
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Terry and Bob down the pub don't give two f**** about the colour of your skin, who you want to f*** at the weekend, where you take a dump, what country you are from

But Terry and Bob will be the first to call you a black c*nt, a p*ki, a bender a Polak, a ch*nk and all sorts of other derogatory names. They'll be the ones to chuck eggs at your door one week and spray paint it the next. These are real experiences that are recorded everyday in Britain.

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Little England IS England. It IS the UK.

That's not what the Polls say. Nationalists now control Northern Ireland...guess why. The SNP hold 80% of seats in Scotland...guess why. Labour still holds Wales...guess why. Little England its literally England outside of the major cities, which have experienced flight from people who only want to be around those who look like them.

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You are stuck on this multicultural obsession

Give it a rest. It's not an obsession...It is literally an existence. Britain is home to people of all colours, faiths, creeds, traditions, sexual orientation etc. One minute you claim it's not about multiculturalism, the next minute you're complaining there's too much focus on multiculturalism. Which is it? Your perpetual shifting of the goal sticks shows how confusing your point is.

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Labour have got to drop this Identity politics

What is Brexit about again if not the ultimate case of identity politics? When has there ever been politics without identity?

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Immigrants who come to the UK and actually attempt to become British assimilate just fine, they are the people who are welcomed into communities. But those who come to the UK, say how bad it is, how racist we all are, how much they want things to be like where they came from. Those are the people who have ruined it for the others.

What is your definition of 'assimilate' and 'attempt to become British'? Notice how your preference of immigrants is for those who keep their mouths shut and suck up all the muck...but if anyone dare speaks out there'll be hell to pay!


Are you British? Because if you were you would know that calling each other c*nts, p*kis, c*inks etc is a form of sussing you out, if you can take it and come up with an equally insulting comment back, you're in. If you start crying, get butthurt, you're out. A lot of what you call racism, isn't. How do you know Terry and Bob are going to egg your house? Isn't that racist? Just like Tariq and Iqbal are going to slice me to death for insulting Allah? Right? Your desire to paint 'Terrys and Bobs' as scumbags tells me enough about you think of the working class and English people. I thought people were to be judged on character not skin or ethnicity. Clearly not.

It is an obsession. You are right, Britain is filled with lots of different faiths, creeds, sexuality. And most of them are... thats right. British. The same. The same identity. Labour focuses on every single thing that can divide us. instead of SOMETHING that can unite us. It doesn't matter who you f*** be British. Where you used to live, be British, What religion you practice, be British. If you don't want to be or worse, if you don't like it, WHY do you freely choose, to live there? You have the democratic freedom to find a country you do like living in. Nationalism is going up, and it's great!

I would say I would attempt to integrate into local communities, knock on some doors and say hello, talk about the footy, go down the pub, walk your dog in the park and get chatting. The problem is, many (especially Muslim) communities stick together and divide themselves from natives. That is basically doing the same thing you accuse Little Englanders of doing (only wanting to live near someone who looks the same). There is a Indian family 3 doors down from me, think he does deliveries, white van man, got a pet shiba inu, walks up my road daily, stops and chats about Arsenal. He's part of the community. Used to live in Bradford but moved for work. Bloke is sound as a pound.

I'm working class and have had my fair share of s*** to deal with. Roll up your damn sleeves, work hard and you'll be respected for it. Whine, cry and be a victim and whatever your skin colour or decent people will tell you to get f*****. That's what being working class is all about. Labour forgot that and are not showing any signs of learning that lesson.


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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #283 on: December 16, 2019, 12:48:30 pm »
The pedant safe expression is 'free at the point of entry' . The problem with health care that is free at the point of entry is that the following things are also free at the point of entry

Gastric by-pass operations
Cosmetic surgery, if you can convince them your big nose is causing psychological problems
Appointments discussing your big nose with a psychiatrist
Illegal immigrant healthcare
Tourist healthcare
Missed appointments
Treatments that are ignored and cause problems to re-occur.
Sick leave which is far above the average for the private sector
Crutches, wheelchairs, intontinence pants etc. that are purchased at way above the market rate.
Taxi service for drunks

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Daily Mail tripe...

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What kind of fairy tale world are you living in if you can't even agree that people will take advantage of a free (at the point of use) system? I never even said I don't agree with the NHS, I just pointed out there's lots of wastage. If you think that's a price worth paying fair enough, I might agree with you, but to not even accept that wastage as a fact is cloud cuckoo land.
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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #284 on: December 16, 2019, 01:12:44 pm »
Are you British? Because if you were you would know that calling each other c*nts, p*kis, c*inks etc is a form of sussing you out, if you can take it and come up with an equally insulting comment back, you're in.

Is that an example of your 'fundamental British values'? Wanting to call people derogatory names just because you can? Obviously in your overly simplistic idea of what racism is (gee, I wonder why), you fail, or refuse to realise it goes beyond the name calling. I could waste my time and point out how much and how far beyond the name calling goes, but your only response would be to 'assimilate' and 'do it back'.

If you start crying, get butthurt, you're out. A lot of what you call racism, isn't. How do you know Terry and Bob are going to egg your house? Isn't that racist? Just like Tariq and Iqbal are going to slice me to death for insulting Allah? Right? Your desire to paint 'Terrys and Bobs' as scumbags tells me enough about you think of the working class and English people. I thought people were to be judged on character not skin or ethnicity. Clearly not.

Please, in your infinite wisdom and experience, tell us what racism is.

It is an obsession. You are right, Britain is filled with lots of different faiths, creeds, sexuality. And most of them are... thats right. British. The same. The same identity. Labour focuses on every single thing that can divide us. instead of SOMETHING that can unite us. It doesn't matter who you f*** be British. Where you used to live, be British, What religion you practice, be British. If you don't want to be or worse, if you don't like it, WHY do you freely choose, to live there? You have the democratic freedom to find a country you do like living in. Nationalism is going up, and it's great!

So, identity now matters? I thought you were saying we shouldn't focus on identity just a few posts ago. What about the Scots...should they stop calling themselves Scottish? Welsh...nah, feck your Welsh Identity. What about the Geordies? Mancs? Cockneys? Scousers? Yorkshiremen? Northerners? Southerners?Or are we giving special treatment to "approved identities" here?

Make up your mind...does identity matter or not?

I would say I would attempt to integrate into local communities, knock on some doors and say hello, talk about the footy, go down the pub, walk your dog in the park and get chatting. The problem is, many (especially Muslim) communities stick together and divide themselves from natives. That is basically doing the same thing you accuse Little Englanders of doing (only wanting to live near someone who looks the same). There is a Indian family 3 doors down from me, think he does deliveries, white van man, got a pet shiba inu, walks up my road daily, stops and chats about Arsenal. He's part of the community. Used to live in Bradford but moved for work. Bloke is sound as a pound.

So do you call your new Indian friend a p*ki to his face? If not, how do you think he would react if you did? Perhaps you should try it sometime and report back to us.

I'm working class and have had my fair share of s*** to deal with. Roll up your damn sleeves, work hard and you'll be respected for it. Whine, cry and be a victim and whatever your skin colour or decent people will tell you to get f*****. That's what being working class is all about. Labour forgot that and are not showing any signs of learning that lesson.

Ironic isn't it. Telling others to stop whining...while you whine about others allegedly whining.


Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #285 on: December 16, 2019, 01:14:53 pm »
Oh well, congratulations...y ou handed the keys to the safe to the bankers and super capitalists, because someone called you out on your bigotry. You handed your pension, your job security, our schools, your hospitals, your police, your fire service, your military all to super capitalists on a silver platter
Wouldn't voting LibDem or non-Corbynite Eurosceptic Labour be handing the keys to either A) The same bankers and super capitalists, who find a way to profit no matter what or B) A different set of bankers and super capitalists, you know the ones that are all hyper-fanatical about the EU? Not to say that the Tories won't get wrapped up with bankers and super capitalists as you say, but outside of Labour winning and Corbyn turning his back on 70% of his supporters and being LabourLeave, I don't really see a scenario in which the banks and the super capitalists aren't told to take a hike.


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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #286 on: December 16, 2019, 01:54:07 pm »
If identity politics is so important to you, why don't you get on board with being British? You didn't answer if you were British or not.

You seem to have misunderstood. I'm not whining, I'm explaining why you lost and why my country rejected socialism, mass uncontrolled immigration, being told how to think and SJW horses***.

Instead, you seem to be focused on the fact someone might call you a p***. It seems Labour are no longer interested in winning elections, playing the victim and scoring internet points is more of a priority.



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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #287 on: December 16, 2019, 02:18:30 pm »
I think I saw lots of traditional labour voters (the blue collar working ones) were voting Conservative to get Brexit done.  Also they didn't like the urban elites and their "boutique" issues.  So, the Cons won well. 


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« Reply #288 on: December 16, 2019, 02:48:54 pm »
If identity politics is so important to you, why don't you get on board with being British? You didn't answer if you were British or not.

What if I wasn't British? You want to tell me I don't understand being 'British' because you think I might not have the UK coat of arms on my passport? What does 'British' mean to you?

You seem to have misunderstood. I'm not whining, I'm explaining why you lost and why my country rejected socialism, mass uncontrolled immigration, being told how to think and SJW horses***.

'Your' country rejected socialism...while having free healthcare, free schools, a free fire service, free ambulance service and all the other things socialist countries tend to have. Don't worry, those things will slowly be stripped away and you'll have your capitalist utopia of paying a thousand quid each time you call the ambulance. How much is a train journey from London to Leeds again?

Speaking of socialist policies...How much is your water bill in Korea? No, not hot water...just water. How much do you pay for health care here in Korea? How much does it cost you to get to and from work? Perhaps you could enlighten us as to how much you paid when you obtained your university education back in 'your' country?

Ironic how you dislike 'socialism' so much despite having benefited handsomely from it huh?

Instead, you seem to be focused on the fact someone might call you a p***. It seems Labour are no longer interested in winning elections, playing the victim and scoring internet points is more of a priority.

Like I said earlier, the concept of racism and discrimination is way over what you're able or willing to comprehend. It is almost pointless discussing such things with you. You haven't told us if you call your Indian neighbour/friend a p*ki to his face. Do you? Would you like to? Why or why not?

What about teachers...should they be able to call their students n*gger? Should managers and supervisors be able to call their subordinates ch*nks, f*ggots, k*ke? I mean, you would just advise all those people to take it in as banter right? What if your child's Korean teacher called him/her a dumb half-breed...what would you tell your kid? Chin up son...it's only banter! Right?


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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #289 on: December 16, 2019, 03:12:35 pm »
If identity politics is so important to you, why don't you get on board with being British? You didn't answer if you were British or not.

What if I wasn't British? You want to tell me I don't understand being 'British' because you think I might not have the UK coat of arms on my passport? What does 'British' mean to you?

You seem to have misunderstood. I'm not whining, I'm explaining why you lost and why my country rejected socialism, mass uncontrolled immigration, being told how to think and SJW horses***.

'Your' country rejected socialism...while having free healthcare, free schools, a free fire service, free ambulance service and all the other things socialist countries tend to have. Don't worry, those things will slowly be stripped away and you'll have your capitalist utopia of paying a thousand quid each time you call the ambulance. How much is a train journey from London to Leeds again?

Speaking of socialist policies...How much is your water bill in Korea? No, not hot water...just water. How much do you pay for health care here in Korea? How much does it cost you to get to and from work? Perhaps you could enlighten us as to how much you paid when you obtained your university education back in 'your' country?

Ironic how you dislike 'socialism' so much despite having benefited handsomely from it huh?

Instead, you seem to be focused on the fact someone might call you a p***. It seems Labour are no longer interested in winning elections, playing the victim and scoring internet points is more of a priority.

Like I said earlier, the concept of racism and discrimination is way over what you're able or willing to comprehend. It is almost pointless discussing such things with you. You haven't told us if you call your Indian neighbour/friend a p*ki to his face. Do you? Would you like to? Why or why not?

What about teachers...should they be able to call their students n*gger? Should managers and supervisors be able to call their subordinates ch*nks, f*ggots, k*ke? I mean, you would just advise all those people to take it in as banter right? What if your child's Korean teacher called him/her a dumb half-breed...what would you tell your kid? Chin up son...it's only banter! Right?

Well, someone who is 'born and bred' is going to understand British behaviour and culture more than an immigrant. Much like my wife knows a s*** load more than I do about Korean culture, because I'm an immigrant. No matter how long I lived here, I want Korea to stay Korea. If it became the UK, I may as well be in the UK.. Same with immigration to the UK.

I'm going to ASSUME you were in the UK from birth as you have been so vocal on this thread, but you seem to want to hide your nationality. I don't tend to poke my nose into American politics, as I'm not fully clued up. I only pay attention because the USA is the biggest country politically. But the rejection of Hilary was fairly similar to this.

Yes, it is 'My' country. I am British. Korea is not my country, I am not 'Korean' and I never will be.

We have a high rate of income tax, our services are taxpayer funded. They are not free. You understand this, right? I'm not sure you do... 'You will be paying thousands for calling an ambulance'?? C'mon bud. This is tin foil hat stuff.... Christ...

I think we are done here. On this thread anyway. Denial is not going to do you any favours. I merely informed you WHY you lost the election, drop the victim/oppressed mentality.


Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #290 on: December 16, 2019, 03:18:53 pm »
their only response was something like, "but corbyn is a nutter". it's infuriating. people got the govt they deserve

He is an absolute nutter. This clip has not aged well. The most worrying thing is that 32% of British people voted for him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FbWsINjpRY


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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #291 on: December 16, 2019, 03:20:16 pm »
Time to develop a bit of class consciousness. The tories are the party of upper class and money. if you own a load of stuff the tories will do well by you whilst making sure the rest of the public have just enough money and resources to keep the mechanisms of the economy turning. If you are working class (which given the nature of this site we all are) the tories will screw you. Either in a small way by not giving you back quite all of what you put in or by in a big way if you are vulnerable.

You can argue how much Labour represented the values of the working class but they were the party of the working class. The Tories did such a great job of poisoning public discourse that people have literally voted against their own interests.

Your enemies aren't immigrants, SJWs, people who live in cities, people who live in the country etc etc, It's those at the very top who through disaster capitalism are about to do very well out of a hard Brexit. They don't give a monkeys about the country which makes it ironic that the most ardent nationalists vote for them. Because it's never about "loving" their country, but hating other countries. Blind nationalism is toxic and its part of how fear and division keeps people at the top.

If you voted conservative and earn less than 80K+ you got played. You can complain all day that you couldn't vote for Labour for a thousand different reasons but take a step back and look at the big picture, you still got played.

But you do have to hand it to the conservatives, they are masters of getting power. Evil genius is still genius.


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« Reply #293 on: December 16, 2019, 04:51:52 pm »
I’d go one further and say those on £80k+ per year aren’t as safe as they think. I’d guesstimate the safety net in today’s and the future climate will be close to 7 figures in cash or assets.

After the super capitalists are done sucking the working class and social services dry...who will be next on their chopping block? Those comfortable blue voters in middle management positions would be my guess. Why continue to pay them £80k+ per year when someone in Vietnam plus AI software could do the same job more efficient, for less than half the price? Increase in profit margins while cutting costs...win-win, unless you’re the poor sod being laid off of course.

If our cousins across the pond are anything to go by, there are people living in their cars today who once earned 6 figure salaries just 10 years ago.

It’s sad that people don’t understand the gravity of what is about to happen in the UK over the course of the next decade. Even sadder still, those that will be doing the screwing will have their newly minted ‘blue’ voters euphorically chanting ‘we won’ in the street as their assets and services are stripped from them piece by piece.

Well played evil genius...well played.


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« Reply #294 on: December 16, 2019, 05:09:58 pm »
their only response was something like, "but corbyn is a nutter". it's infuriating. people got the govt they deserve

He is an absolute nutter. This clip has not aged well. The most worrying thing is that 32% of British people voted for him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FbWsINjpRY
aged like milk. hindsight is a nice thing though, isn't it? anyway, didn't chavez start off as a "champion for the poor" though? i don't know enough about it. but it's easy to take things out of context. anyway, he's just repeating the same ideals he always has. which of labour's policies didn't you like btw?


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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #295 on: December 16, 2019, 05:32:07 pm »
Am I  the only one thinking we got played hard by Putin and a handful of Republican billionaires?

I remember a time when Nato and the EU were the no.1 power and encroaching on Russia's hemisphere and all of a sudden we're in this mess completely at the mercy of Putin, with his best mates dissing the EU.
incumbo studiis


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« Reply #296 on: December 16, 2019, 05:32:29 pm »
All these working class and middle class voters voting year after year for a party that's screwing them and never realising how terrible their lives are compared to before. The Tories must be evil geniuses indeed to have pulled off this mass halucination. You'd never have guessed it from listening to them


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« Reply #297 on: December 16, 2019, 05:44:33 pm »
their only response was something like, "but corbyn is a nutter". it's infuriating. people got the govt they deserve

He is an absolute nutter. This clip has not aged well. The most worrying thing is that 32% of British people voted for him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FbWsINjpRY
aged like milk. hindsight is a nice thing though, isn't it?


Yes, who'd have guessed that a thirld world country trying to force hardline socialism on its people was going to end badly


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« Reply #298 on: December 16, 2019, 06:32:06 pm »
which of labour's policies didn't you like btw?

I can't get past the personalities.

Andrew Murray (Corbyn’s Special Advisor) – 40 years in the Communist Party of Great Britain, which he “left” in 2017, coincidentally the same year the Communist Party announced that they would not be fielding any candidates and would be supporting the Labour Party. Continues to write for the Morning Star.

Seumas Milne (Corbyn’s Director of Strategy and Communications) - openly voiced nostalgia for the “huge social benefits” enjoyed under Soviet communism in the USSR and Eastern Bloc.

John McDonnell (shadow chancellor) - waved a copy of Mao's Little Red Book in the House of Commons and quoted from it. Has also stated that he is a Marxist.

Diane Abbott (shadow home secretary) - said that Mao Zedong (a man who killed 45 million people) had done more good than bad.


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« Reply #299 on: December 16, 2019, 06:55:39 pm »
David Lammy saying jacob Rees Mogg was worse than Hitler.

Jess Phillips saying the mass rapes/sexual assaults in Cologne were like an average Saturday night in Birmingham
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