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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #240 on: December 13, 2019, 01:41:18 pm »

i guess it pays to flat-out lie, mislead the public whenever possible through fake news and advertisements, and only take part in interviews where you know you won't be scrutinized. apparently the public doesn't give a shit about any of this


Of course.  I thought this was self evident nowadays.


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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #241 on: December 13, 2019, 01:52:48 pm »
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only take part in interviews where you know you won't be scrutinized

Epic moment of Boris hiding in a walk-in freezer!
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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #242 on: December 13, 2019, 01:56:09 pm »
And these are the guys you want to give over power to without any accountability?

What are you talking about?  We joined the EU in 1973.  What do you mean, 'give over power without accountability?', you're like 46 years too late with this kind of dumb comment.  Most of us, have only known the UK in the EU and feel that we haven't done too badly out of it.  And as for sovereignty?  Almost no country has power over their decisions be they with defence or economic, to name a couple.  What the fook will the UK do now?  Join with trump and his shitshow?  Jesus help us.  What about Brits living abroad?  Pensions?  Stuff like that, do you think Johnson gives two shits about that?  Of course he doesn't, he a fooking arrogant idiot who can't see two centimetres in front of his face.
Gee I don't know, how does the rest of the world outside of Europe manage to survive without being in your precious EU?


Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #243 on: December 13, 2019, 01:59:11 pm »
And these are the guys you want to give over power to without any accountability?

What are you talking about?  We joined the EU in 1973.  What do you mean, 'give over power without accountability?', you're like 46 years too late with this kind of dumb comment.  Most of us, have only known the UK in the EU and feel that we haven't done too badly out of it.  And as for sovereignty?  Almost no country has power over their decisions be they with defence or economic, to name a couple.  What the fook will the UK do now?  Join with trump and his shitshow?  Jesus help us.  What about Brits living abroad?  Pensions?  Stuff like that, do you think Johnson gives two shits about that?  Of course he doesn't, he a fooking arrogant idiot who can't see two centimetres in front of his face.
Gee I don't know, how does the rest of the world outside of Europe manage to survive without being in your precious EU?

Gee, geography not one of your strong subjects, is it?  You should travel more, it'll give you a better, more educated perspective. 


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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #244 on: December 13, 2019, 02:05:15 pm »
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i guess it pays to flat-out lie, mislead the public whenever possible through fake news and advertisements, and only take part in interviews where you know you won't be scrutinised. apparently the public doesnt give a shit about any of this 

How do they know he lied about his election promises when he's not even in power yet? But anyway we all know this election wasn 't about numbers of nurses and hospitals.


Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #245 on: December 13, 2019, 02:15:53 pm »
If and when they try and sell the NHS the British public will riot. 2020's gonna be f*cking awful. All we need now is for the queen to die.


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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #246 on: December 13, 2019, 02:30:31 pm »
About as clearer rejection of Labour leadership and as clearer mandate for completing the UK's exit from the EU as you will see. A walkover. No second vote. It's done. Finally.

The smears and the (as above) ridiculous stories about Boris 'hiding' in a fridge, didn't work. The 25th hour dying child on a hospital floor attack didn't work. The begging for tactical voting didn't work.

Labour abandoned and ignored what the working class voted for in 2016. And they got a big boot up the arse for doing so. You get what you deserve.


Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #247 on: December 13, 2019, 02:59:07 pm »
Gee, geography not one of your strong subjects, is it?  You should travel more, it'll give you a better, more educated perspective. 
Gee, there are nations IN Europe that are developed and NOT part of the EU,

Gee, how does New Zealand survive not being part of Australia? How does Canada survive without taking orders from Washington?


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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #248 on: December 13, 2019, 03:22:24 pm »
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i guess it pays to flat-out lie, mislead the public whenever possible through fake news and advertisements, and only take part in interviews where you know you won't be scrutinised. apparently the public doesnt give a shit about any of this 

How do they know he lied about his election promises when he's not even in power yet? But anyway we all know this election wasn 't about numbers of nurses and hospitals.
Take your pick
https://boris-johnson-lies.com/

Plus this
www.metro.co.uk/2019/12/10/investigation-finds-88-tory-ads-misleading-compared-0-labour-11651802/amp/


Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #249 on: December 13, 2019, 03:35:04 pm »
Gee, geography not one of your strong subjects, is it?  You should travel more, it'll give you a better, more educated perspective. 
Gee, there are nations IN Europe that are developed and NOT part of the EU,

Gee, how does New Zealand survive not being part of Australia? How does Canada survive without taking orders from Washington?

Gee, I would hope that if you could read and understand the thread title, you would hopefully understand why we are not arguing about Australia and Canada.   :rolleyes:  Like you constantly arguing with people in the ranting thread. 

And as for European countries NOT in the EU, hmmm, oh difficult one.  Albania?  Is waiting to join.  Andorra?  Too small.  Belarus?  Has dictatorship and still linked to Russia.  Bosnia-Herzegovina?  Hoping to join when it sorts out its civil war stuff.   Iceland?  Waiting, and a little dependent on Norway.  Liechenstein?  See Andorra.  Macedonia and Moldova?  Waiting.  Norway?  Government wants, people don't.  Russia? Not likely. San Marino?  See Andorra and Liechenstein.  Serbia?  Working in it.  Swiss?  Government wants, people don't.  Turkey?  Wants to, but it's a difficult one.   Ukraine?  Linked to Russia.  Vatican City?  Has a special relationship through Italy. 

So, to point out your stupid 'let's argue about B' point.  Most of those countries want to join, or are developing politically and socially.  The ones on that list that would be most developed are Norway and Switzerland.  Thing is Norway and Switzerland both dominate the most expensive places to live in Europe and even the world. 

Seriously, travel a bit and learn some more geography.  Do a bit of interrailing around Europe, take some photos, eat a croissant, take in a bit of the European culture and you'll see why this is all nuts.  Seriously, it'll do you some good.   Give you a better perspective. 


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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #250 on: December 13, 2019, 04:15:58 pm »
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i guess it pays to flat-out lie, mislead the public whenever possible through fake news and advertisements, and only take part in interviews where you know you won't be scrutinised. apparently the public doesnt give a shit about any of this 

How do they know he lied about his election promises when he's not even in power yet? But anyway we all know this election wasn 't about numbers of nurses and hospitals.
Take your pick
https://boris-johnson-lies.com/

Plus this
www.metro.co.uk/2019/12/10/investigation-finds-88-tory-ads-misleading-compared-0-labour-11651802/amp/

Yes but surely they can only say for certain that he lied in his election promises if the things aren't done or in the planning stage when he leaves?


Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #251 on: December 13, 2019, 04:35:13 pm »
Gee, geography not one of your strong subjects, is it?  You should travel more, it'll give you a better, more educated perspective. 
Gee, there are nations IN Europe that are developed and NOT part of the EU,

Gee, how does New Zealand survive not being part of Australia? How does Canada survive without taking orders from Washington?

Gee, I would hope that if you could read and understand the thread title, you would hopefully understand why we are not arguing about Australia and Canada.   :rolleyes:  Like you constantly arguing with people in the ranting thread. 

And as for European countries NOT in the EU, hmmm, oh difficult one.  Albania?  Is waiting to join.  Andorra?  Too small.  Belarus?  Has dictatorship and still linked to Russia.  Bosnia-Herzegovina?  Hoping to join when it sorts out its civil war stuff.   Iceland?  Waiting, and a little dependent on Norway.  Liechenstein?  See Andorra.  Macedonia and Moldova?  Waiting.  Norway?  Government wants, people don't.  Russia? Not likely. San Marino?  See Andorra and Liechenstein.  Serbia?  Working in it.  Swiss?  Government wants, people don't.  Turkey?  Wants to, but it's a difficult one.   Ukraine?  Linked to Russia.  Vatican City?  Has a special relationship through Italy. 

So, to point out your stupid 'let's argue about B' point.  Most of those countries want to join, or are developing politically and socially.  The ones on that list that would be most developed are Norway and Switzerland.  Thing is Norway and Switzerland both dominate the most expensive places to live in Europe and even the world. 

Seriously, travel a bit and learn some more geography.  Do a bit of interrailing around Europe, take some photos, eat a croissant, take in a bit of the European culture and you'll see why this is all nuts.  Seriously, it'll do you some good.   Give you a better perspective. 

Your would have a point if there were not significant Eurosceptic constituencies across Europe. Opinion there is not unified.


Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #252 on: December 13, 2019, 04:59:04 pm »
Gee, geography not one of your strong subjects, is it?  You should travel more, it'll give you a better, more educated perspective. 
Gee, there are nations IN Europe that are developed and NOT part of the EU,

Gee, how does New Zealand survive not being part of Australia? How does Canada survive without taking orders from Washington?

Gee, I would hope that if you could read and understand the thread title, you would hopefully understand why we are not arguing about Australia and Canada.   :rolleyes:  Like you constantly arguing with people in the ranting thread. 

And as for European countries NOT in the EU, hmmm, oh difficult one.  Albania?  Is waiting to join.  Andorra?  Too small.  Belarus?  Has dictatorship and still linked to Russia.  Bosnia-Herzegovina?  Hoping to join when it sorts out its civil war stuff.   Iceland?  Waiting, and a little dependent on Norway.  Liechenstein?  See Andorra.  Macedonia and Moldova?  Waiting.  Norway?  Government wants, people don't.  Russia? Not likely. San Marino?  See Andorra and Liechenstein.  Serbia?  Working in it.  Swiss?  Government wants, people don't.  Turkey?  Wants to, but it's a difficult one.   Ukraine?  Linked to Russia.  Vatican City?  Has a special relationship through Italy. 

So, to point out your stupid 'let's argue about B' point.  Most of those countries want to join, or are developing politically and socially.  The ones on that list that would be most developed are Norway and Switzerland.  Thing is Norway and Switzerland both dominate the most expensive places to live in Europe and even the world. 

Seriously, travel a bit and learn some more geography.  Do a bit of interrailing around Europe, take some photos, eat a croissant, take in a bit of the European culture and you'll see why this is all nuts.  Seriously, it'll do you some good.   Give you a better perspective. 

Your would have a point if there were not significant Eurosceptic constituencies across Europe. Opinion there is not unified.

Gee, there are nations IN Europe that are developed and NOT part of the EU,

You said about the non-members.  You even bolded it.  Don't move your goalposts with 'eurosceptic members' now. 


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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #253 on: December 13, 2019, 07:07:00 pm »
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i guess it pays to flat-out lie, mislead the public whenever possible through fake news and advertisements, and only take part in interviews where you know you won't be scrutinised. apparently the public doesnt give a shit about any of this 

How do they know he lied about his election promises when he's not even in power yet? But anyway we all know this election wasn 't about numbers of nurses and hospitals.
Take your pick
https://boris-johnson-lies.com/

Plus this
www.metro.co.uk/2019/12/10/investigation-finds-88-tory-ads-misleading-compared-0-labour-11651802/amp/

Yes but surely they can only say for certain that he lied in his election promises if the things aren't done or in the planning stage when he leaves?
well, of course. but it seems like he was backtracking a bit on the nurses thing already - and got caught out on the hospitals bit, too. but i agree, you can't really judge about those things until they're proven to be false. so i'll naturally reserve judgement until then. that's only fair.

i was more referring to the bare-faced lies spread all throughout the campaign by boris (and the tories in general). that website has sources linked to it! not to mention the scandal with his (most recent) secret mistress, whatever her name was. didn't boris also dodge a question about how many kids he has? ugh. also lying to the queen


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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #254 on: December 13, 2019, 07:18:35 pm »
Gee, geography not one of your strong subjects, is it?  You should travel more, it'll give you a better, more educated perspective. 
Gee, there are nations IN Europe that are developed and NOT part of the EU,

Gee, how does New Zealand survive not being part of Australia? How does Canada survive without taking orders from Washington?

They all must be racist...the answer to most things.


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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #255 on: December 14, 2019, 03:45:36 am »


The smears and the (as above) ridiculous stories about Boris 'hiding' in a fridge,

I agree wholeheartedly it was he most ridiculous moment in Boris's campaign. :azn:

https://youtu.be/Lp9XoiFbZcI?t=39
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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #256 on: December 14, 2019, 03:57:58 am »
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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #257 on: December 14, 2019, 07:38:09 am »
What does this vulgar, stupid image have to do with the thread?


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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #258 on: December 14, 2019, 09:28:00 am »
As far as I am concerned, the only winner here is mother Russia.
the working class voted

colburnn is right. Working class, xenophobic voters have won, but we've all lost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZUdiXOG2ZI
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« Reply #259 on: December 14, 2019, 09:52:29 am »
Or, perhaps folks want to keep England for the English...vs living under the umbrella of globalism?
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