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Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2018, 01:56:27 pm »
i don't want to be a lifer but i also don't want to live back in the uk

Is Korea really better than the UK these days?  Anytime I visit relatives there
it is great.  Food is ten times better.  Scenery and architecture are incomparable.

However, living a visiting are different.  Has the UK sunk down that far?


Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2018, 02:12:21 pm »
i don't want to be a lifer but i also don't want to live back in the uk

Is Korea really better than the UK these days?  Anytime I visit relatives there
it is great.  Food is ten times better.  Scenery and architecture are incomparable.

However, living a visiting are different.  Has the UK sunk down that far?

It really depends where in the UK you can find work and afford to live. Where I grew up is mind-numbingly dull with low-employment, high knife-crime, and a love of 60s architecture. Not to mention the cost of petrol if you want to live anywhere without great transport links, which is most places.


Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2018, 02:17:19 pm »
The UK felt pretty depressing when I visited family this summer. The fishing is a lot better though.


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Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2018, 03:07:12 pm »
My mother lives in Ayr.  Which is a small seaside town on the west coast of Scotland.


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Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2018, 05:21:07 pm »
Are you a lifer?

Yes

Why or why not?

I am alive

What are your thoughts on lifers if you aren't one.

I am one, however, if someone is alive, they are a lifer, till they die of course. Then it all comes crashing down.
When the wicked are confounded, and consigned to flames of woe, call me.


Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2018, 05:43:29 pm »
i don't want to be a lifer but i also don't want to live back in the uk

Is Korea really better than the UK these days?  Anytime I visit relatives there
it is great.  Food is ten times better.  Scenery and architecture are incomparable.

However, living a visiting are different.  Has the UK sunk down that far?

Supermarkets are better in every respect in the UK and when you get to a certain stage in life that becomes more and more important.


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Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2018, 09:03:15 pm »
It really depends where in the UK you can find work and afford to live. Where I grew up is mind-numbingly dull with low-employment, high knife-crime, and a love of 60s architecture. Not to mention the cost of petrol if you want to live anywhere without great transport links, which is most places.

Well yes.

UK is lovely to visit and see the countryside (in places) old friends and relatives.

But living there feels too much of a drag somehow. It is a treadmill and if you step of it for more than a year they don't like it and won't let you back on. It is a nanny state. They don't think that far outside of the box in terms of lifeplan and resent people who actually have the courage to step outside of it.

The only way to make it in the UK is to follow the plot and never put a foot wrong. ie do something like this:

Grow up in one town so you get firm friends for life
Graduate with a useful degree or practical qualification
Start at the company and don't move.
Marry and have kids
Get promoted every few years, pay that mortgage


If you're an adventurer like me who was curious about life, then you hardly want to go back and start from scratch in a grimy grey northern town after 15 years away travelling the world. What on earth would I do there? Sign on the dole? Watch telly every night because its always drizzling? Blow my weekly excess 20 quid down the pub every weekend? No thanks. No way.

UK is only good if you have a lot of money and live somewhere nice. Otherwise Korea is better.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2018, 09:15:45 pm by Cyanea »
Catch my drift?


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Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2018, 10:51:36 pm »
It might be a good idea to define a lifer.

For some people (i.e., US citizens), a lifer might be someone who has been here for more than ten years. That's because pension lump sum refunds are impossible after ten years of residence in Korea; you're locked in the system, as it were.

Or, maybe we could more simply define a lifer as someone who wants to live here for life.

Just thought for food. (Or is it food for thought? Sorry, English isn't my first language.)

Nps doesn't get locked in. Only the private teachers pension that unis usually pay into do. I called to verify this as I am in my tenth year.


Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2018, 01:22:43 am »
Possibly me. I really have no problems living here and my wife wants to be close to her family. I've always been a traveller so being close to mine is not a problem.

However lately, I find myself missing the simple things like putting up Halloween decorations on the house and waiting for trick or treaters, Christmas, Thanksgiving with food and football, etc.

Also, although it's possible to get a real house in Korea, it's way more expensive than in the states. As comfortable and convenient as apartment complexes in Korea can be, I want a HOUSE with a yard, garage, garden etc.

I guess we will see as things change. Nothing is ever set in stone.


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Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2018, 04:56:21 am »
Also, although it's possible to get a real house in Korea, it's way more expensive than in the states. As comfortable and convenient as apartment complexes in Korea can be, I want a HOUSE with a yard, garage, garden etc.

That is easily achievable in America but not in the UK.

So yes, Americans should go home if a garden is what you want.


In Britain you have to be a millionaire to afford a house with an actual garden of any size.
Catch my drift?


Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2018, 05:25:06 am »
Also, although it's possible to get a real house in Korea, it's way more expensive than in the states. As comfortable and convenient as apartment complexes in Korea can be, I want a HOUSE with a yard, garage, garden etc.

That is easily achievable in America but not in the UK.

So yes, Americans should go home if a garden is what you want.


In Britain you have to be a millionaire to afford a house with an actual garden of any size.

Like this one on at under 300 grand (390,000 dollars)

https://www.onthemarket.com/details/5640494/

and don't try to claim you were talking only about houses in the South East or houses in big cities or houses near places with jobs for EFL teachers etc.. You said you have to be a millionaire to afford a house with an actual garden of any size in Britain. This is a house in Britain with a massive garden at less than a third of a million quid.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2018, 05:32:20 am by eggieguffer »


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Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2018, 04:23:45 pm »
and don't try to claim you were talking only about houses in the South East or houses in big cities or houses near places with jobs for EFL teachers

I was using hyperbole.

Do you know what that is?

It is a literary device that should be detectable by those with an education.


My point was you need to make a lot of money to afford a house with a garden of any useful size.

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Like this one

Thats in the middle of nowhere.

Too far to commute to from anywhere that has jobs enabling a person to afford such a property.

« Last Edit: September 22, 2018, 04:37:59 pm by Cyanea »
Catch my drift?


Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2018, 05:02:40 pm »
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Thats in the middle of nowhere.

Too far to commute to from anywhere that has jobs enabling a person to afford such a property.


There are loads of well paid jobs going a few miles from that house in Carmarthenshire. It's a business hub. You're talking out of your arse.
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Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2018, 05:43:06 pm »
There are loads of well paid jobs going a few miles from that house in Carmarthenshire. It's a business hub.

You mean Swansea? That place with under-average employment rates and a GVA 20% below the UK average?

Maybe thats why the person is selling up.

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a few miles

its 35 km from the aforementioned "business hub". Thats 1 hour driving time every day.

You're going to snap that up with your 2.1M hogwon salary are you? while you also pay off your car and support your family.

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You're talking out of your arse.

Try making counter points in a discussion without resorting to personal attacks for once. You'll find people will respect and listen to what you say more.
Catch my drift?


Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2018, 07:44:36 pm »
There are loads of well paid jobs going a few miles from that house in Carmarthenshire. It's a business hub.

You mean Swansea? That place with under-average employment rates and a GVA 20% below the UK average?

Maybe thats why the person is selling up.

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a few miles

its 35 km from the aforementioned "business hub". Thats 1 hour driving time every day




I was using hyperbole.

Do you know what that is?

It is a literary device that should be detectable by those with an education. :smiley:

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You're going to snap that up with your 2.1M hogwon salary are you? while you also pay off your car and support your family.


No, I already own two properties in the UK and one in Korea (all bought and paid for) so not looking to add to the portfolio at the moment







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Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2018, 08:03:57 pm »
I already own two properties in the UK and one in Korea (all bought and paid for) so not looking to add to the portfolio at the moment

Oh sure, you property mogul you  :laugh:   

Putting your monopoly board aside for a moment, seems a bit strange for a tycoon like yourself to be on a chatboard for efl teachers in Korea.
Catch my drift?


Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2018, 08:08:45 pm »
I already own two properties in the UK and one in Korea (all bought and paid for) so not looking to add to the portfolio at the moment

Oh sure, you property mogul you  :laugh:   

Putting your monopoly board aside for a moment, seems a bit strange for a tycoon like yourself to be on a chatboard for efl teachers in Korea.

There's a lot of money to be made in Korea in teaching, with or without the F viss, but not in public schools. Also as I was trying to point out, house prices are not that high in the UK outside the south East.


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Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2018, 07:10:13 am »
I already own two properties in the UK and one in Korea (all bought and paid for) so not looking to add to the portfolio at the moment

Oh sure, you property mogul you  :laugh:   

Putting your monopoly board aside for a moment, seems a bit strange for a tycoon like yourself to be on a chatboard for efl teachers in Korea.


There's a lot of money to be made in Korea in teaching, with or without the F viss, but not in public schools. Also as I was trying to point out, house prices are not that high in the UK outside the south East.

He's right, my sister recently bought a three bed house with a nice garden in a reasonable area of Manchester for 140,000.  At the budget level, we bought a little two-bed terrace to rent out for 87,000 there too.  People who live in the Southern bubble often can't believe you can buy a nice house for less than half a million quid.  I'll stick my neck out and say I expect you can find a house with a nice garden in an ok area of most Northern cities for less than 200,000.  That's hardly monopoly money.


Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2018, 04:58:06 pm »
I already own two properties in the UK and one in Korea (all bought and paid for) so not looking to add to the portfolio at the moment

Oh sure, you property mogul you  :laugh:   

Putting your monopoly board aside for a moment, seems a bit strange for a tycoon like yourself to be on a chatboard for efl teachers in Korea.


There's a lot of money to be made in Korea in teaching, with or without the F viss, but not in public schools. Also as I was trying to point out, house prices are not that high in the UK outside the south East.

He's right, my sister recently bought a three bed house with a nice garden in a reasonable area of Manchester for 140,000.  At the budget level, we bought a little two-bed terrace to rent out for 87,000 there too.  People who live in the Southern bubble often can't believe you can buy a nice house for less than half a million quid.  I'll stick my neck out and say I expect you can find a house with a nice garden in an ok area of most Northern cities for less than 200,000.  That's hardly monopoly money.

Here's a guide to anyone interested in investing 50 grand, for example.

https://toughnickel.com/real-estate/15-of-the-cheapest-places-in-the-UK-to-buy-a-3-bedroom-house


Re: Are you a lifer?
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2018, 07:57:20 pm »
Yes I am...!

 23 years and counting!