We'll see. Hiring was just as strong, if not stronger, under Obama. The dollar store worker could be in for a sad awakening since the tax cuts for folks like her are temporary and as the deficit continues to grow like it's on HGH, she's going to be paying a lot more or getting a lot less from government services. Republicans are hanging their hats on tax cuts and racism. How those tax cuts work are easy to see where I live. Fewer police on the street, streets that are often in disrepair as well as dirty and more dangerous to drive on, cutbacks in all types of social services, very little support of the arts, and the list goes on.Hopefully, people will realize you don't get money for nothing and your kicks for free. But it could be they are permanent free riders who are going to take the US down.
Quote from: gogators! on July 07, 2018, 02:19:41 amWe'll see. Hiring was just as strong, if not stronger, under Obama. The dollar store worker could be in for a sad awakening since the tax cuts for folks like her are temporary and as the deficit continues to grow like it's on HGH, she's going to be paying a lot more or getting a lot less from government services. Republicans are hanging their hats on tax cuts and racism. How those tax cuts work are easy to see where I live. Fewer police on the street, streets that are often in disrepair as well as dirty and more dangerous to drive on, cutbacks in all types of social services, very little support of the arts, and the list goes on.Hopefully, people will realize you don't get money for nothing and your kicks for free. But it could be they are permanent free riders who are going to take the US down.
Quote from: CDW on July 07, 2018, 08:59:56 amQuote from: gogators! on July 07, 2018, 02:19:41 amWe'll see. Hiring was just as strong, if not stronger, under Obama. The dollar store worker could be in for a sad awakening since the tax cuts for folks like her are temporary and as the deficit continues to grow like it's on HGH, she's going to be paying a lot more or getting a lot less from government services. Republicans are hanging their hats on tax cuts and racism. How those tax cuts work are easy to see where I live. Fewer police on the street, streets that are often in disrepair as well as dirty and more dangerous to drive on, cutbacks in all types of social services, very little support of the arts, and the list goes on.Hopefully, people will realize you don't get money for nothing and your kicks for free. But it could be they are permanent free riders who are going to take the US down.So, republicans don’t want more taxes on lower earners. They simply want lower taxes . This is stupid. And ironically racist since the guy is blond haired and blue eyed .
Quote from: Chester Jim on July 07, 2018, 10:16:59 amQuote from: CDW on July 07, 2018, 08:59:56 amQuote from: gogators! on July 07, 2018, 02:19:41 amWe'll see. Hiring was just as strong, if not stronger, under Obama. The dollar store worker could be in for a sad awakening since the tax cuts for folks like her are temporary and as the deficit continues to grow like it's on HGH, she's going to be paying a lot more or getting a lot less from government services. Republicans are hanging their hats on tax cuts and racism. How those tax cuts work are easy to see where I live. Fewer police on the street, streets that are often in disrepair as well as dirty and more dangerous to drive on, cutbacks in all types of social services, very little support of the arts, and the list goes on.Hopefully, people will realize you don't get money for nothing and your kicks for free. But it could be they are permanent free riders who are going to take the US down.So, republicans don’t want more taxes on lower earners. They simply want lower taxes . This is stupid. And ironically racist since the guy is blond haired and blue eyed .Patently false. "They simply want lower taxes on the rich and powerful." FIFYWhat guy? Drinking again?
Quote from: gogators! on July 07, 2018, 10:18:42 pmQuote from: Chester Jim on July 07, 2018, 10:16:59 amQuote from: CDW on July 07, 2018, 08:59:56 amQuote from: gogators! on July 07, 2018, 02:19:41 amWe'll see. Hiring was just as strong, if not stronger, under Obama. The dollar store worker could be in for a sad awakening since the tax cuts for folks like her are temporary and as the deficit continues to grow like it's on HGH, she's going to be paying a lot more or getting a lot less from government services. Republicans are hanging their hats on tax cuts and racism. How those tax cuts work are easy to see where I live. Fewer police on the street, streets that are often in disrepair as well as dirty and more dangerous to drive on, cutbacks in all types of social services, very little support of the arts, and the list goes on.Hopefully, people will realize you don't get money for nothing and your kicks for free. But it could be they are permanent free riders who are going to take the US down.So, republicans don’t want more taxes on lower earners. They simply want lower taxes . This is stupid. And ironically racist since the guy is blond haired and blue eyed .Patently false. "They simply want lower taxes on the rich and powerful." FIFYWhat guy? Drinking again?As usual, Gogators, you continue to spew memorized talking points rather than thinking or showing any evidence for your opinions. You might as well tattoo "Tax cuts = bad" and "Trump hates minorities and poor." Then call it a day permanently and save us all the the extreme boredom of seeing your endless posts repeating the same second-rate recitations you have happily indoctrinated yourself with. You truly are a bore.You cannot lower taxes on the "poor" in the US. They don't pay income taxes. In fact, if you are poor, you certainly qualify for many huge tax credits specifically designed to help the poor - the Earned Income Credit, for one. A poor family with one or two people working minimum wage jobs can expect, in fact, to get a massive refund not only of any taxes the paid, but a refund much greater than any taxes paid. A NEGATIVE tax rate, in fact of 50%+ is very common. I can show you some of my own tax return numbers from earlier in my life, since I'm sure you will dispute this.I'm not denouncing those tax credits or their good intention of helping the poor move up the social ladder. And, by the way, all those tax credits still exist under Trump's new tax plan. I'm simply pointing out that "lowering taxes on the poor" is simply a misnomer and is totally meaningless. If you pay no income taxes and actually pay negative taxes, your rate cannot be lowered. I suppose you could argue they should get more free money from the government in the form of tax credits, but that's a whole different argument.The truth is, Trump's tax plan looks like the chart shown. And when you factor in the new high standardized deduction has increased from 6250 to 1200 (single) and from 12,700 to 24,000 (joint), it should be plainly obvious (assuming you can add and subtract) that the "poor" will not be on the hook for any income taxes and will still be getting the large tax credits they previously got.No one should be surprised that Trump is cutting taxes. You can argue for or against cutting income taxes. But that's what he ran on and won on. But making disingenuous and false claims about the tax cuts is just intellectually lazy. Stop falling back on old, tired, debunked talking-points. Of course you won't, we all know.
But making disingenuous and false claims about the tax cuts is just intellectually lazy.
It's hilarious how hypocritical liberals are. It's almost like clockwork. Under Obama: Credit rating is downgraded as the deficit soars and liberals say, "Eh, no big deal. Of course there is a deficit we are a big country"Under Trump: Deficit continues to sore like it has with EVERY SINGLE president once progressives took root. Liberals crying, "OMG the deficit!!"Just hilarious.Liberals really are the best argument for freedom of choice.
The U.S. Federal deficit was $587 billion in Obama’s last year and it grew to $666 billion in Trump’s first year of his presidency. I’ve been reviewing a report from the U.S. Treasury Department, which shows that the U.S. Federal Deficit will probably increase this year (fiscal 2018), could come close to if not exceed $1 trillion in fiscal 2019 and will likely exceed $1 trillion in fiscal 2020 and beyond. And this is before the additional deficits created by the tax reform bill and the just passed two year budget.
Quote from: Mr.DeMartino on Yesterday at 01:40:32 Trump is a liar and a con man.
Quote from Mr.DeMartino on June 14, 2019 at 02:28:07 Donald Trump is a lying sack of shit
Don't worry, between Trump's tariffs, his driving away anyone wanting to invest in the US with his fascist racism and his blowing up the deficit with his fraudulent tax bill, I'm sure everyone will soon be reminded about how shitty Republicans are on the economy.
Clinton budget surpluses were partly because the Republican congress wouldn't approve all his spending requests and partly because he dipped into Social Security.
Clinton’s large budget surpluses also owe much to the Social Security tax on payrolls. Social Security taxes now bring in more than the cost of current benefits, and the "Social Security surplus" makes the total deficit or surplus figures look better than they would if Social Security wasn’t counted. But even if we remove Social Security from the equation, there was a surplus of $1.9 billion in fiscal 1999 and $86.4 billion in fiscal 2000.
Multinational corporations pressing Congress to adopt an updated version of the North America Free Trade Agreement shed over half a million U.S. jobs for trade-related reasons since NAFTA took effect, according to a new analysis of government data.The analysis, conducted by Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch, a liberal nonprofit critical of recent trade agreements, found that 182 U.S. companies pushing for “NAFTA 2.0” ― either directly or through groups representing them ― had outsourced 225,527 jobs to countries with cheaper labor since 1994. The companies lost 284,489 more jobs due to heightened competition from cheaper foreign imports or other unspecified trade-related reasons, Public Citizen concluded.Public Citizen’s research aims to cast doubt on President Donald Trump’s contention that the revised trade agreement he negotiated, officially known as the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement, or USMCA, fixes the flaws in NAFTA that cost American workers jobs.“Having corporate coalitions packed with chronic outsourcers of American jobs spending millions to pass NAFTA 2.0 certainly eviscerates Trump’s claim to have replaced NAFTA with a totally different deal that is good for working people,” said Lori Wallach, director of Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch.