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  • kobayashi
  • Expert Waygook

    • 987

    • August 18, 2016, 11:14:47 am
    • Nibiru
Re: American sentenced to four years for defending himself in bar fight
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2018, 10:24:54 am »
It sounds like the Chinese guys who he got into fight with were willing to drop the charges for $100,000 US. He didn't have the money. No one was seriously injured. He had been coaching football and teaching English in China. 

https://sports.yahoo.com/wendell-brown-sentenced-four-years-chinese-prison-212939777.html

Pretty much why I'll never go to China

much better to live in a country that hands down 4 year sentences for pushing a guy instead, right?

https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/3axj2m/american_man_sentenced_to_4_years_after_beating_a/

or a country that sentences someone to 18 months in prison for defending themselves against a burglar who broke into their dark house in the middle of the night with their elderly grandmother sleeping in another room?

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/culture/2014/12/135_169821.html
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Re: American sentenced to four years for defending himself in bar fight
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2018, 11:44:56 am »
It sounds like the Chinese guys who he got into fight with were willing to drop the charges for $100,000 US. He didn't have the money. No one was seriously injured. He had been coaching football and teaching English in China. 

https://sports.yahoo.com/wendell-brown-sentenced-four-years-chinese-prison-212939777.html

Pretty much why I'll never go to China

much better to live in a country that hands down 4 year sentences for pushing a guy instead, right?

https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/3axj2m/american_man_sentenced_to_4_years_after_beating_a/

or a country that sentences someone to 18 months in prison for defending themselves against a burglar who broke into their dark house in the middle of the night with their elderly grandmother sleeping in another room?

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/culture/2014/12/135_169821.html

I say this to people who get shot committing crimes, always!

"The easiest way to not get your head clubbed in? Stay the fukk out of my house."

Same with people with knives who get shot with police, or they charge at the police unarmed. Don't bloody well do that.

(Yeah, there are exceptions where people shouldn't have been shot, that's why they're called exceptions )


Re: American sentenced to four years for defending himself in bar fight
« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2018, 01:23:46 pm »
It sounds like the Chinese guys who he got into fight with were willing to drop the charges for $100,000 US. He didn't have the money. No one was seriously injured. He had been coaching football and teaching English in China. 

https://sports.yahoo.com/wendell-brown-sentenced-four-years-chinese-prison-212939777.html

Pretty much why I'll never go to China

much better to live in a country that hands down 4 year sentences for pushing a guy instead, right?

https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/3axj2m/american_man_sentenced_to_4_years_after_beating_a/

or a country that sentences someone to 18 months in prison for defending themselves against a burglar who broke into their dark house in the middle of the night with their elderly grandmother sleeping in another room?

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/culture/2014/12/135_169821.html

Korea has a sh*t legal system and lack of civil pressure (Confucian teaching of not upsetting the "natural" order) means it's slow to reform. Still, in Korea, if you're a foreigner and you're embroiled in a legal dispute with a Korean, while you might face some bias, you definitely have a chance, particularly if you have evidence.

Furthermore, the example you've given, in Korea's case, illustrates a poorly thought out, ambiguous and vague legal system, it does not illustrate bias. China's legal system, from a position of a foreigner is PURELY bias, it doesn't matter how much evidence you have or how strong your case is, a Chinese court will NEVER take the side of a foreigner over a Chinese national, under any circumstances.

Apples and oranges.


  • Piggydee
  • The Legend

    • 2716

    • October 15, 2013, 07:32:43 am
    • South Korea
Re: American sentenced to four years for defending himself in bar fight
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2018, 02:43:34 pm »
considering he was sentenced back in 2016 he has two more years.  I would learn Chinese in that time and just wait it out.  Try to make the most of it because by the looks of it I don't see any American diplomats jumping any hurdles to go get him.