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  • Mr C
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Re: California is a failing state.
« Reply #281 on: August 29, 2021, 05:27:24 am »
Anyone calling Cali or Texas a failed state is being ridiculous. I'd take the two of them any day over a real failed state.


  • L I
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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: California is a failing state.
« Reply #282 on: August 29, 2021, 06:25:09 am »
Yes. The average person in the world would kill to get into Cali or Texas.

World average annual per capita GDP: $10,926

Texas: $66,149

California: $80,563
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  • Mr C
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Re: California is a failing state.
« Reply #283 on: August 29, 2021, 09:14:22 am »
Yes. The average person in the world would kill to get into Cali or Texas.

World average annual per capita GDP: $10,926

Texas: $66,149

 Money is meaningless when you can't get a hospital bed because of state government's mismanagement, or your power goes out for a week in winter because of it.



  • Kyndo
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Re: California is a failing state.
« Reply #284 on: August 30, 2021, 07:30:50 am »
Average GDP isn't a great indicator of quality of life.
Median GDP is better.
HDI is far *far* better than either.

Here's a link to US state ranking by HDI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_Human_Development_Index, and the countries most equivalent to each state.

Here's a link to global HDI rankings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index



  • Adel
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Re: California is a failing state.
« Reply #285 on: August 30, 2021, 07:46:42 am »
Average GDP isn't a great indicator of quality of life.
Median GDP is better.
HDI is far *far* better than either.

Here's a link to US state ranking by HDI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_Human_Development_Index, and the countries most equivalent to each state.

Here's a link to global HDI rankings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index



But if you go by the Human Development Index, that would place 'Commonwealthers' ahead! That can't be right. 


  • OnNut81
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Re: California is a failing state.
« Reply #286 on: August 30, 2021, 07:50:25 am »
That you didn't think that, not the people who live/lived there. Do you live in either of those cities? Did you grow up there?

As for Toronto: https://www.immigroup.com/news/worst-neighbourhoods-toronto-immigrate

Pointless to try and have a discussion with you as each time you're contradicted you just change the conversation.  You clearly just contradicted yourself here.  You try to make the case that I didn't grow up in LA or San Fran so I'm not qualified to say,  but then when it comes to Toronto you post an article dealing with people IMMIGRATING to the city.  The exact opposite of people that grew up in a city.  Overall, you cannot make a case that the city of Toronto has gone downhill. That is not what the majority of people that grew up there think.  They may think it's gotten too expensive housing wise, but no one is looking around thinking this city or this formerly nice neighbourhood is a no go zone and has gone to sh*t.  People, like me, absolutely point out the public transit never kept up pace with the city's growth but it's still a hell of a lot better than most cities in North America.  But having this discussion with you is a waste of time.  You just keep going in different directions. 


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Re: California is a failing state.
« Reply #287 on: August 30, 2021, 07:53:10 am »
But if you go by the Human Development Index, that would place 'Commonwealthers' ahead! That can't be right.

It would still allow LI to point out living in Texas and California would be preferable to living in South Sudan or Afghanistan. Not that anyone has argued otherwise.
"in real life I have a Mensa level IQ. Thatís the opposite of mentally retarded. People have told me Iím the smartest person theyíve ever met. Has anyone said that to you? Probably not."


  • Adel
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Re: California is a failing state.
« Reply #288 on: August 30, 2021, 07:56:41 am »
It would still allow LI to point out living in Texas and California would be preferable to living in South Sudan or Afghanistan. Not that anyone has argued otherwise.

I guess that's what he means by the average person. That is, someone living in South Sudan or Afghanistan.


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Re: California is a failing state.
« Reply #289 on: August 30, 2021, 07:58:31 am »
Compared to the average person on earth, the average American in better off. Facts.


  • Mr C
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Re: California is a failing state.
« Reply #290 on: August 30, 2021, 08:00:29 am »
Compared to the average person on earth, the average American in better off. Facts.

Who are you arguing with?  Who is saying otherwise?


  • Adel
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Re: California is a failing state.
« Reply #291 on: August 30, 2021, 08:01:11 am »
Compared to the average person on earth, the average American in better off. Facts.

With the exception of the average 'Commonwealther' ?


  • L I
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Re: California is a failing state.
« Reply #292 on: August 30, 2021, 08:03:32 am »
In that HDI index, thereís not much difference between any country in the top 20 and #1.

Look at California compared to Commonwealth countries. California beats most. Theyíre pretty much equal overall.

Why are people obsessed with bashing America and saying lifeís bad there? Itís not, compared to the world average.


  • Adel
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Re: California is a failing state.
« Reply #293 on: August 30, 2021, 08:05:29 am »
In that HDI index, thereís not much difference between any country in the top 20 and #1.

Look at California compared to Commonwealth countries. California beats most. Theyíre pretty much equal overall.

Why are people obsessed with bashing America and saying lifeís bad there? Itís not, compared to the world average.

Who is bashing America ? :huh:


  • L I
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Re: California is a failing state.
« Reply #294 on: August 30, 2021, 08:09:04 am »
The average person on earth isnít living in South Sudan or Afghanistan. Statistically most likely would be China or India. Do Chinese and Indians want to live in California or Texas? Yes.


  • Mr C
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Re: California is a failing state.
« Reply #295 on: August 30, 2021, 08:10:05 am »
With the exception of the average 'Commonwealther' ?
In that HDI index, thereís not much difference between any country in the top 20 and #1.

Look at California compared to Commonwealth countries. California beats most. Theyíre pretty much equal overall.

Why are people obsessed with bashing America and saying lifeís bad there? Itís not, compared to the world average.

Who is bashing America?  ANSWER THE QUESTION!


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Re: California is a failing state.
« Reply #296 on: August 30, 2021, 08:11:11 am »
Youíve never heard a Commonwealther bash the United States? Iím surprised.


  • Mr C
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Re: California is a failing state.
« Reply #297 on: August 30, 2021, 08:16:18 am »
Youíve never heard a Commonwealther bash the United States? Iím surprised.

What?!?!? 

That is the stupidest answer I've seen in nearly a decade on this forum.


  • Adel
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Re: California is a failing state.
« Reply #298 on: August 30, 2021, 08:23:12 am »
I can't say I'd be willing kill to get into Cali or Texas. Does that make me an American basher or above average?


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Re: California is a failing state.
« Reply #299 on: August 30, 2021, 08:27:17 am »
Those born in Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, the UK, and the US were born into countries that are way above the global average. Very fortunate.