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  • OnNut81
  • The Legend

    • 2146

    • April 01, 2011, 03:01:41 pm
    • Anyang
Re: Making the jump to China HELP
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2021, 04:23:09 pm »
No, I just don't get why you feel the need to argue on teaching in China.  If you want to teach in Korea for less then stay and teach for less.  I told you I make 3 million and you argued with me claiming it wasn't possible on another thread.  You seem rather negative and content to stay in a rut.  That's your right, but don't flame me and others for pointing out better alternatives. 

Eye witness testimony especially multiple eye witness testimonies and experiences are admissible in court as evidence.  Why is it not here?  I submitted 3 videos on another thread of folks actually in China describing their experiences.  Also, a couple of users on this thread confirimed what those other folks said in the video that you can send money home. 

Again, not sure why you are so negative and criticial of the pointing out of any alternatives.  Are you sure you're not secretely a recruiter or hakwon owner?  I can't think of any other reason.  As for me, I make okay enough for now.  But if I were any lower, I'd be gone.  There will always be a small number who stay no matter what.  Just look at Japan.  They stay through thick and thin no matter how much abuse, but most leave or don't go.  Their demand is more of a niche market anyways.  Moms don't demand native speakers for their kids like they do in Korea and China, etc. 

No what?  Of course those who have been in China and sent money abroad can confirm that, but you're not one of those people yet.  So, how could you say you are able to confirm something if you haven't done it? That's the point I'm making and you somehow keep refuting it.  It's not a debatable point or a matter of opinion.  Just because it's true doesn't mean you can confirm it.  Before this Covid mess I planned to go to Tuscany and I do a lot of research when I travel.  But, no matter what I read about a particular restaurant from multiple sources, I am unable to confirm it's good because I didn't end up going.  I believe it is a good place with amazing rustic charm, but I can't confirm that until I go.  Simple.

And I never would have said making three million a month at a public school was not possible because I hit that mark at my current school two years ago, and I don't get any rural or multiple school allowances.  What I did say was you calculate your monthly pay by including your renewal bonus and severance pay which is inaccurate and falsely inflates your monthly income.  I don't spread out my renewal or severance over 12 months to calculate my pay.

And I've clarified this more than once for you.  I also am a recruiter and a hakwan owner on the side.  I keep telling you, you are correct.  It's odd, you accuse me of being a recruiter or hakwan owner, yet then don't believe me when I say you're right. What are you playing at here? 


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  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Making the jump to China HELP
« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2021, 05:08:00 pm »
I never would have said making three million a month at a public school was not possible because I hit that mark at my current school two years ago, and I don't get any rural or multiple school allowances.

How'd you do that? This says GEPIK maxes out at 2.5: https://www.korvia.com/korvia-gepik/gepik-salary-levels/



  • OnNut81
  • The Legend

    • 2146

    • April 01, 2011, 03:01:41 pm
    • Anyang
Re: Making the jump to China HELP
« Reply #42 on: May 18, 2021, 11:41:04 am »
How'd you do that? This says GEPIK maxes out at 2.5: https://www.korvia.com/korvia-gepik/gepik-salary-levels/



There are some differences with city hall contracts, I guess.  But three million is including my housing allowance. 


  • tylerthegloob
  • The Legend

    • 2509

    • September 28, 2016, 10:46:24 am
    • Busan
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Re: Making the jump to China HELP
« Reply #43 on: May 18, 2021, 12:02:37 pm »
buT yOu'RE nOt aLlOWeD tO cOUnt HOuSiNg alLoWanCe

[edit: i mean... unless you are, in which case the whole 2.1 meme doesn't make any sense whatsoever. it should be the 2.5 meme]
more gg more skill


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  • Waygook Lord

    • 6391

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Making the jump to China HELP
« Reply #44 on: May 18, 2021, 12:05:06 pm »
You can count it as long as you mention that you are calculating it as such so as to not give a false impression.


  • OnNut81
  • The Legend

    • 2146

    • April 01, 2011, 03:01:41 pm
    • Anyang
Re: Making the jump to China HELP
« Reply #45 on: May 18, 2021, 12:25:24 pm »
You can count it as long as you mention that you are calculating it as such so as to not give a false impression.

Yes, a total of 3 million including housing is deposited into my account every month, so that's my monthly pay.  It's my responsibility to take care of my housing from my pay. I would not factor yearly bonuses or severance or airfare as part of my monthly income, though. 


  • hangook77
  • The Legend

    • 3637

    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
    • Near Busan
Re: Making the jump to China HELP
« Reply #46 on: May 18, 2021, 01:27:01 pm »
How'd you do that? This says GEPIK maxes out at 2.5: https://www.korvia.com/korvia-gepik/gepik-salary-levels/



Provincial rural EPIK maxes out at 2.7 plus 100 for rural area, plus 150 k for 3 or more schools.  That is 2.95.  Any overtime however slight or privates (not that I am telling anyone to do that) can bring you up over 3 mil either in some months or all months averaged out.  Housing on top of that is another 400k per month.  But you got to spend a few years living in the boonies to get up to that level.   You may have some more travel expenses and such.  I haven't added the 2 million won renewal allowance nor have I added the overtime night classes once a week I do most years.  Housing and severance added one and averaged out can come closer to 3,516,000 mil per month.  Some slight overtime brings me to 3.616 per month.  But housing costs are rising and I drive.  Korea is getting expensive.  It has been decent until now.  But it is getting pricier and pricier every year.  Granted no car and if provided housing is nice, a Gangnam kindie paying 2.8 to 3 mil will probably be decent enough due to less expenses necessary. 

Anyways, as I said, most folks don't want to live in the boonies.  I do hear islands give an extra 100K pay. 

And, I haven't had a raise in years (which was kind of my point before).  Also, newer nice places are getting into the 700 kish range for rent even out in the regional cities  - 10 or 20 mil deposits or more.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2021, 01:33:51 pm by hangook77 »


  • hangook77
  • The Legend

    • 3637

    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
    • Near Busan
Re: Making the jump to China HELP
« Reply #47 on: May 18, 2021, 01:30:36 pm »
No what?  Of course those who have been in China and sent money abroad can confirm that, but you're not one of those people yet.  So, how could you say you are able to confirm something if you haven't done it? That's the point I'm making and you somehow keep refuting it.  It's not a debatable point or a matter of opinion.  Just because it's true doesn't mean you can confirm it.  Before this Covid mess I planned to go to Tuscany and I do a lot of research when I travel.  But, no matter what I read about a particular restaurant from multiple sources, I am unable to confirm it's good because I didn't end up going.  I believe it is a good place with amazing rustic charm, but I can't confirm that until I go.  Simple.

And I never would have said making three million a month at a public school was not possible because I hit that mark at my current school two years ago, and I don't get any rural or multiple school allowances.  What I did say was you calculate your monthly pay by including your renewal bonus and severance pay which is inaccurate and falsely inflates your monthly income.  I don't spread out my renewal or severance over 12 months to calculate my pay.

And I've clarified this more than once for you.  I also am a recruiter and a hakwan owner on the side.  I keep telling you, you are correct.  It's odd, you accuse me of being a recruiter or hakwan owner, yet then don't believe me when I say you're right. What are you playing at here? 

Multiple folks already said it was possible and can be done.  It doesn't matter if you like it or not.  That's what they said.  The process is similar to Korea except a bit more paperwork at the beginning. 


  • OnNut81
  • The Legend

    • 2146

    • April 01, 2011, 03:01:41 pm
    • Anyang
Re: Making the jump to China HELP
« Reply #48 on: May 18, 2021, 03:13:52 pm »
Multiple folks already said it was possible and can be done.  It doesn't matter if you like it or not.  That's what they said.  The process is similar to Korea except a bit more paperwork at the beginning. 

Yes, and those multiple folk that did it can confirm it.  You can't.  So, when you jumped in and and said you could confirm what another poster said it was inaccurate.  Please look up the word "confirm."  Maybe that will help.  You confirm something with first hand sources, not second or third.  How do you continue to refute that?  Baffling. 


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  • The Legend

    • 4807

    • March 16, 2016, 04:35:48 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Making the jump to China HELP
« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2021, 04:27:08 am »
You can count it as long as you mention that you are calculating it as such so as to not give a false impression.
Can you use a calculator?


  • rainman
  • Waygookin

    • 14

    • January 06, 2013, 08:45:54 am
    • Guangzhou, China
Re: Making the jump to China HELP
« Reply #50 on: June 15, 2021, 01:54:27 pm »
I have been teaching at a public school in Guangzhou for 12 years. It is the highest salary if you have a teaching certificate from your home country and you can get a working visa. I teach at a Foreign language school, so the level of the students is kind of high. They are currently looking for a teacher for grades 7 and 8. You can contact me with your CV and I can forward it to the school.
I am not an agent, but I have helped the school find several foreigners to teach English in the past decade
raymond.hardy1@yahoo.com