When will Trump be impeached?

Where you getting your approval data? I just looked it up on Gallup and Dems are at 40% Reps at 39%, and Trump is at 35%.

Same place he gets everything else.  I'll give you a hint: it's anatomical in nature.

I'm a truth and facts peep.

That's true.  We barely hear a peep of truth or facts from you.

Savage!

Sandy was a symbolic vote on pork.

Untrue.  That's what some said, but they were lying:

...according to an analysis of the legislation compiled by CQ, the Sandy aid bill included $16 billion for community development programs, $11.5 billion for FEMA’s disaster relief fund, $10.9 billion for transportation system repairs, $5.4 billion for Army Corps of Engineers projects, $800 million for social service programs, and $826 million for repairs to national parks and facilities.

But Texas Republicans latched onto the notion that the Sandy relief package was full of wasteful spending. When the Senate was voting on the bill in early 2013, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) railed against the “unrelated spending, including projects such as Smithsonian repairs, upgrades to National Oceanic and Atmospheric airplanes, and more funding for Head Start.”

[T]he Smithsonian repairs ― representing .004 percent of the money appropriated ― were related to Sandy, and the upgrades and repairs to NOAA aircraft were to help with future hurricane forecasting. The money for Head Start, meanwhile, was available only to those facilities damaged by Sandy.

But let's just watch and see the extent to which a$$clowns like Cruz complain, object and vote against relief appropriations with various riders.

Surely Trump can't visit Harris County to check out the storm/flood damage........because they voted for Hillary.  Why would he go there?   

Trump landed in Texas and already brought up crowd size.

Standing on a truck giving a speech like he was Bill Pullman in Independence Day.

"When I'm President we're going to have the biggest storms. Katrina, Sandy? Those were nothing. My storms as President will be bigly. We're going to get you help as soon as Mexico pays for the wall. If not, Mexico, then Congress. You've all seen my big successes so far. God bless Texas. Go Yankees!"

Welllll....  Let's take Obamacare, for example.

The basic idea for the "individual mandate" that is at the core of making the ACA work, to the extent it does work, was developed by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think-tank.  Mitt Romney, a Republican governor, actually tried it out, quite successfully, in Massachusetts.

So the Dems took an idea that pretty much worked and rolled it into their own attempt to overhaul the medical system.  That is, until they started fuffing about with it to try to get some Republicans to vote for it, the ACA was quite similar to what Heritage, AEI and so on had put forth in the 1990s.

They had two main objections when it came up in 2009, one of which Republicans always have: they think government should be free; good roads, military might and flood reparations must never be paid for by taxes (well, at least not our taxes--let our children and grandchildren pay for them).

But the other one was somehow this "individual mandate", which they now had a problem with in principle, though a veritable who's who of Republicans had co-sponsored the same thing ...

Speaking of hypocrisy, I wonder how many of the 20 sitting Texas Reps and 2 senators that voted against hurricane Sandy relief in 2013 will vote against Harvey relief?

You won't get an argument from me on the GOP debacle that is their health care policy.

Sandy was a symbolic vote on pork. It's bad visually but the bill was going to pass regardless and they wanted to make a statement about attaching extra spending. It was a dumb move by them in terms of optics, but they had a point that the bill could have been a little leaner. Still....

But back to deflection, since Trump's election the Democratic Party's operating principle has been reflexive anti-Trumpism. Fair enough as that's what the GOP did under Obama, but they have no solid, cohesive message. The larger point is that the Democrats are even worse off than Trump. His historical low approval? Higher than the Democrats. Heck, it's higher than Macron's. Remember him? The Golden Boy? So much for that.

Where you getting your approval data? I just looked it up on Gallup and Dems are at 40% Reps at 39%, and Trump is at 35%.

Forgot to look up Macron, he's at 40% approval. All are low, but all are higher than Trump.

http://www.pollingreport.com/cong_dem.htm
http://www.businessinsider.com/emmanuel-macron-poll-approval-rating-trump-2017-8

The data is a little old, but they show Dems in the 30% range. There are some better numbers for them in MI-PA-and WI concerning Dems vs. Republicans in the upcoming race, but then again, those polls showed them with a sizable lead there before election night.

Even though Trump has fallen nationwide in polls, there has been no corresponding surge in Democratic approval.

The Dems need a different message. Jobs, health care, jobs, infrastructure, jobs. Not minimum wage increases, welfare, and identity politics. Who in their right mind would want that as their policy? People don't want to work for 15 an hour. They want real jobs like their parents had. They don't want welfare, they want a job! And people are increasingly tired of identity politics. When your party thinks that Confederate statues and refighting the Civil War are more important than dinner table issues, they have a problem.

http://www.pollingreport.com/cong_dem.htm
http://www.businessinsider.com/emmanuel-macron-poll-approval-rating-trump-2017-8

The data is a little old, but they show Dems in the 30% range. There are some better numbers for them in MI-PA-and WI concerning Dems vs. Republicans in the upcoming race, but then again, those polls showed them with a sizable lead there before election night.

Even though Trump has fallen nationwide in polls, there has been no corresponding surge in Democratic approval.

The Dems need a different message. Jobs, health care, jobs, infrastructure, jobs. Not minimum wage increases, welfare, and identity politics. Who in their right mind would want that as their policy? People don't want to work for 15 an hour. They want real jobs like their parents had. They don't want welfare, they want a job! And people are increasingly tired of identity politics. When your party thinks that Confederate statues and refighting the Civil War are more important than dinner table issues, they have a problem.

The data I provided was from yesterday.

Also, the second link puts Macron at 37%, still higher than Trump.

http://www.pollingreport.com/cong_dem.htm
http://www.businessinsider.com/emmanuel-macron-poll-approval-rating-trump-2017-8

The data is a little old, but they show Dems in the 30% range. There are some better numbers for them in MI-PA-and WI concerning Dems vs. Republicans in the upcoming race, but then again, those polls showed them with a sizable lead there before election night.

Even though Trump has fallen nationwide in polls, there has been no corresponding surge in Democratic approval.

The Dems need a different message. Jobs, health care, jobs, infrastructure, jobs. Not minimum wage increases, welfare, and identity politics. Who in their right mind would want that as their policy? People don't want to work for 15 an hour. They want real jobs like their parents had. They don't want welfare, they want a job! And people are increasingly tired of identity politics. When your party thinks that Confederate statues and refighting the Civil War are more important than dinner table issues, they have a problem.

The data I provided was from yesterday.

Also, the second link puts Macron at 37%, still higher than Trump.

Depends on the Trump poll. But point conceded that in terms of margin of error, one could say that Macron is edging Trump by a hair. Still quite the fall (compared to Trump). And the numbers for Dem approval will of course fluctuate as well. I guess we can say they're roughly equally unpopular making the upcoming election hard to predict and both parties are in a tough spot.

If I were a Democrat, with all that's gone on with Trump, I'd be absolutely terrified of those numbers.

The Dems may run into problems if say, they adapted a Sanders-style platform. But at least people would know what they'd stand for and someone like Bernie would probably simplify it into 3-5 key policy proposals. That could be pretty effective and could appeal to a number of Trump voters. But they've shown a mix of Hillary Clinton-style abysmally ineffective bland messaging combined with the lunacy of the "Resistance" so far.

A thing to note is that a lot of Trumpers/Conservatives speak about pols like Sanders and Dennis Kucinich in grudgingly respectful terms. Usually things like "I disagree, but I appreciate his sincerity and he has a point on this issue X." Sometimes it's more important to be respected than popular. Bernie got a lot of credit for going to Liberty U. and not talking down to conservatives and not pandering either. That's what the Dems need. I'm a soft-Trumper, but I think the best moment of the primary campaign was when Michigan stunned Clinton and chose Sanders. It was a defiant moment and really filled my heart with pride as a Michigander. If I can feel that way about Sanders' candidacy, I think a lot of other Trump-liters can as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul3wR5TCGoA

According to the democrats, Putin is invading Korea. His empirical expansionism knows no bounds and he is now pushing into western Korea after having personally made the bombs dropped on Aleppo

According to the democrats, Putin is invading Korea. His empirical expansionism knows no bounds and he is now pushing into western Korea after having personally made the bombs dropped on Aleppo

http://www.pravdareport.com/news/russia/economics/15-08-2017/138412-russia_swift-0/

All the while Mueller grinds away and his team grows. The IRS and NY state AG are now involved.

 “IRS special agents are the very best in the business of conducting financial investigations. They will quickly tell you that it took an accountant to nab Al Capone, and it’s true.”

“The FBI’s expertise is spread out over so many statutes—and particularly since 9/11, where they really focused on counterintelligence and counterterror—that they simply don’t have the financial investigative expertise that the CI agents have,” Sheil continued. “When CI brings a case to a U.S. Attorney, it is done. It’s wrapped up with a ribbon and a bow. It’s just comprehensive.”

Follow the money!

According to the democrats, Putin is invading Korea. His empirical expansionism knows no bounds and he is now pushing into western Korea after having personally made the bombs dropped on Aleppo

http://www.pravdareport.com/news/russia/economics/15-08-2017/138412-russia_swift-0/

I don't click on propaganda links.

If you have a point, make it.

I need to know that I'm talking to someone intelligent before i bother to engage.

Trump Associate Boasted That Moscow Business Deal ‘Will Get Donald Elected’

“Our boy can become president of the USA and we can engineer it,” Mr. Sater wrote in an email. “I will get all of Putins team to buy in on this, I will manage this process.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/28/us/politics/trump-tower-putin-felix-sater.html?mcubz=0

Just in case the story wasn't covered on infowars!

Is it just whatever Obama did that he hates?

Yes. I bet you that you could pull up a list of all of Obama's accomplishments and know what Trump's going to end.

Ths made my weekend:

Irma: Florida sheriff urges people not to shoot at hurricane, saying 'you won't turn it around'

A Florida sheriff has pleaded with citizens not to shoot at Hurricane Irma, saying they “won’t turn it around”.

The Pasco County Sheriff's Office warned that shooting weapons at the most dangerous Atlantic hurricane to hit the US since records began “will have very dangerous side effects”.

As many as 53,000 people said they were interested in a Facebook event called “Shoot At Hurricane Irma”, and 25,000 people said they would participate on Saturday evening.

It was set up by 22-year-old Ryon Edwards.

A description of the event read: “YO SO THIS GOOFY LOOKING WINDY HEADA** NAMED IRMA SAID THEY PULLING UP ON US, LETS SHOW IRMA THAT WE SHOOT FIRST”.

The Sheriff's office tweeted on Saturday evening: "To clarify, DO NOT shoot weapons @ #Irma. You won't make it turn around & it will have very dangerous side effects."

Mr Edwards told the BBC he created the event out of boredom and stress, and was surprised by the reaction.

Graphics appeared online, suggesting how people could “fire correctly” at the hurricane to ensure the bullets did not come back and kill you.

Graphics appeared online, suggesting how people could “fire correctly” at the hurricane to ensure the bullets did not come back and kill you.

Governor's climate change denial makes Florida more vulnerable to Irma
Several other events quickly appeared on Facebook to combat the storm, including scaring it with flamethrowers, “Spinning your arms really fast to push away Hurricane Irma” and “Destroy Hurricane Irma By Cooling The Atlantic With Ice Cubes”.

Do you get the idea that some Americans believe what they see on crappy Hollywood films?  I tell you what?  If the end of the world is coming I'm gonna find Jake Gyllenhaal and hide in a library, and wait it out.  Should work.

    Reminds me of that scene from 'Independence Day' warning people not to fire their guns at the alien space ship.

Bannon is dangerous, but IMO there's a lot of truth to the US being in an economic war with China. And considering all the cyberespionage  and hacking being conducted by China it's close to being a cold war.

Kelly seems to be having a positive effect on Trumpy. By staying off twitter, no major FEMA screw-ups and making a deal with the Dems, trumpy's poll numbers have gone up a bit.

But behind the scenes, his far right social agenda is still on. Witness his tweet that churches should get FEMA funds. He probably forget they don't pay taxes.

If the elites remove Trump or take him out, there's going to be hell to pay.  The military would have to take over to stop the riots.  Why does Trump have this strong loyal following?  It's not because of identity politics and fake racism charges or other ridiculous nonsense.  It's the promise to drain the swamp and bring back the jobs.  This is coming from me a former Democrat and current Independent.  (I'm no fan of Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell either and their good old boys club.)  This Michael Moore video even if quoted out of context sums up most people that voted for him, including myself.  (I voted for Obama in 2012.)  Very few supporters are actually racist and if you want to tar and feather most supporters, you'll never bring us back to the Democratic party but will only push us further away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxDRqeuLNag

BTW, what flipped people?  This clip from the Young Turks 3 years back sums it up nicely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMuuaO-YLKE

If the elites remove Trump or take him out, there's going to be hell to pay.  The military would have to take over to stop the riots.  Why does Trump have this strong loyal following?  It's not because of identity politics and fake racism charges or other ridiculous nonsense.  It's the promise to drain the swamp and bring back the jobs.  This is coming from me a former Democrat and current Independent.  (I'm no fan of Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell either and their good old boys club.)  This Michael Moore video even if quoted out of context sums up most people that voted for him, including myself.  (I voted for Obama in 2012.)  Very few supporters are actually racist and if you want to tar and feather most supporters, you'll never bring us back to the Democratic party but will only push us further away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxDRqeuLNag

Hahaha and here's you still thinking that he's draining the swamp. Trump is swimming in the cesspool - he's the swamp monster. How many Goldman Sachs folks has he brought on board now? I'm sure the Trump business is doing very well under the Trump presidency - why can't he open up the Mar-a-Lago guest book? Too many deals enriching himself and his company under the guise of being President.