trumpy's approval rating is now down to 34%.
The Putin peeps, the Trump peeps and the Clinton peeps should all meet up and have a massive brawl until there is only one group left standing.
The Caine Mutiny (1954)Captain Queeg: Ahh, but the strawberries that's... that's where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with... geometric logic... that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist, and I'd have produced that key if they hadn't of pulled the Caine out of action. I, I, I know now they were only trying to protect some fellow officers...
Quote from: Mr.DeMartino on Yesterday at 01:40:32 Trump is a liar and a con man.
Quote from Mr.DeMartino on June 14, 2019 at 02:28:07 Donald Trump is a lying sack of shit
Quote from: gogators! on August 26, 2017, 07:02:47 pmtrumpy's approval rating is now down to 34%. As long as the Democrats in Congress have lower approvals, Trump isn't going anywhere. The Dems can run up their margins in California and New York and other liberal enclaves, but if Trump is still ahead of the Democrat in light-red and swing counties around the country, he wins.You don't have to run faster than the bear. You just have to run faster than the other guy.
The Putin peeps, the Trump peeps
You don't have to run faster than the bear. You just have to run faster than the other guy.
Quote from: Mr.DeMartino on August 28, 2017, 09:27:12 amQuote from: gogators! on August 26, 2017, 07:02:47 pmtrumpy's approval rating is now down to 34%. As long as the Democrats in Congress have lower approvals, Trump isn't going anywhere. The Dems can run up their margins in California and New York and other liberal enclaves, but if Trump is still ahead of the Democrat in light-red and swing counties around the country, he wins.You don't have to run faster than the bear. You just have to run faster than the other guy.I like how instead of criticizing the guy who this thread is about, you're like BUT THE DEMS. Trump is doing a bad job, and it's not productive to hope that people hate one party more than someone is objectively not doing a great job. It blows my mind that Republicans can control congress and people will still blame Democrats for everything.
Quote from: jddavis7 on August 28, 2017, 04:50:57 pmQuote from: Mr.DeMartino on August 28, 2017, 09:27:12 amQuote from: gogators! on August 26, 2017, 07:02:47 pmtrumpy's approval rating is now down to 34%. As long as the Democrats in Congress have lower approvals, Trump isn't going anywhere. The Dems can run up their margins in California and New York and other liberal enclaves, but if Trump is still ahead of the Democrat in light-red and swing counties around the country, he wins.You don't have to run faster than the bear. You just have to run faster than the other guy.I like how instead of criticizing the guy who this thread is about, you're like BUT THE DEMS. Trump is doing a bad job, and it's not productive to hope that people hate one party more than someone is objectively not doing a great job. It blows my mind that Republicans can control congress and people will still blame Democrats for everything.I'm not arguing whether Trump is good or bad in that post, I'm stating a political reality.The political reality is Trump only needs to not be as unappealing as the Democrats in the parts of the country that ensure him and the Republicans a majority.The fact is the Democratic Party is in such disarray that they're crapping themselves at the thought of Kid Rock running for Senate. Kid Rock. Now you can continue to howl about Trump and why voters are dumb and everything, or try and actually win. It's not that hard. They probably could have won with ol Joe Biden (avuncular centrist) or Bernie (outsider in a 'change election') but they went with HRC. The biggest mistake was the unleashing of leftwing identity politics. I know, it's not fair- the right does identity politics too. But white people are still the majority and 48% of the country is male. If you crap on whites and men, don't be shocked when they lash out and become as entrenched to the Republican Party as minorities do when the Republicans demonize them. Offering 'The Resistance' and SJW safe spaces and deciding that the big issue facing America is statues of people who died 150 years ago may FEEL good, but it's why Trump treads water above the poor polls for the Democrats.But yeah, just ignore political reality. Believe that people care more about statues and how many minorities are in the cast of Dunkirk are more important than jobs, taxes, jobs, health care, and jobs. Double down and go after Jefferson being on the 2 dollar bill. That's worked out great so far seeing as how the Democrats control the presidency and both houses of Congress and the majority of state legislatures and governorships. Comfort yourself in Trump's poll numbers. Blame everything on Russia and 46% of America being racist. It wasn't the fact that the Democratic candidate was so despised that 52% of the country voted for Donald frickin Trump or Aleppo or Jill Lenin.
Quote from: maximmm on August 26, 2017, 05:38:29 pmThe Putin peeps, the Trump peeps Where are the other "Putin peeps"? exactly. There's only me.Gotta luv how the libs exaggerate the number of the opposition.In any case I'm not a "Putin Peep", I'm a truth and facts peep.
I'm a truth and facts peep.
Quote from: Aurata on August 28, 2017, 10:16:37 pm I'm a truth and facts peep.That's true. We barely hear a peep of truth or facts from you.
Don't waste your time having an argument no one is trying to have. I didn't say a thing about race, gender, or social class. I just stated that the right tends to often deflect to the left. I'm just stating a political reality.
Quote from: jddavis7 on August 29, 2017, 07:13:43 amDon't waste your time having an argument no one is trying to have. I didn't say a thing about race, gender, or social class. I just stated that the right tends to often deflect to the left. I'm just stating a political reality. I agree that the right often deflects to the left. That's pretty obvious. The left often deflects to the right as well. It's the oldest political tactic in the book- negative campaigning. If you think the left doesn't do this as well, then I don't know what to say.
Speaking of hypocrisy, I wonder how many of the 20 sitting Texas Reps and 2 senators that voted against hurricane Sandy relief in 2013 will vote against Harvey relief?
Welllll.... Let's take Obamacare, for example.The basic idea for the "individual mandate" that is at the core of making the ACA work, to the extent it does work, was developed by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think-tank. Mitt Romney, a Republican governor, actually tried it out, quite successfully, in Massachusetts.So the Dems took an idea that pretty much worked and rolled it into their own attempt to overhaul the medical system. That is, until they started fuffing about with it to try to get some Republicans to vote for it, the ACA was quite similar to what Heritage, AEI and so on had put forth in the 1990s.They had two main objections when it came up in 2009, one of which Republicans always have: they think government should be free; good roads, military might and flood reparations must never be paid for by taxes (well, at least not our taxes--let our children and grandchildren pay for them).But the other one was somehow this "individual mandate", which they now had a problem with in principle, though a veritable who's who of Republicans had co-sponsored the same thing ...Speaking of hypocrisy, I wonder how many of the 20 sitting Texas Reps and 2 senators that voted against hurricane Sandy relief in 2013 will vote against Harvey relief?
Quote from: Mr C on August 29, 2017, 03:23:40 pmWelllll.... Let's take Obamacare, for example.The basic idea for the "individual mandate" that is at the core of making the ACA work, to the extent it does work, was developed by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think-tank. Mitt Romney, a Republican governor, actually tried it out, quite successfully, in Massachusetts.So the Dems took an idea that pretty much worked and rolled it into their own attempt to overhaul the medical system. That is, until they started fuffing about with it to try to get some Republicans to vote for it, the ACA was quite similar to what Heritage, AEI and so on had put forth in the 1990s.They had two main objections when it came up in 2009, one of which Republicans always have: they think government should be free; good roads, military might and flood reparations must never be paid for by taxes (well, at least not our taxes--let our children and grandchildren pay for them).But the other one was somehow this "individual mandate", which they now had a problem with in principle, though a veritable who's who of Republicans had co-sponsored the same thing ...Speaking of hypocrisy, I wonder how many of the 20 sitting Texas Reps and 2 senators that voted against hurricane Sandy relief in 2013 will vote against Harvey relief?You won't get an argument from me on the GOP debacle that is their health care policy. Sandy was a symbolic vote on pork. It's bad visually but the bill was going to pass regardless and they wanted to make a statement about attaching extra spending. It was a dumb move by them in terms of optics, but they had a point that the bill could have been a little leaner. Still....But back to deflection, since Trump's election the Democratic Party's operating principle has been reflexive anti-Trumpism. Fair enough as that's what the GOP did under Obama, but they have no solid, cohesive message. The larger point is that the Democrats are even worse off than Trump. His historical low approval? Higher than the Democrats. Heck, it's higher than Macron's. Remember him? The Golden Boy? So much for that.