Yes Democrats, Conway just gave you the tools to impeach Donald Trump. I'm sure the country will rally behind an attempt to impeach Trump over that or failing that, just get her fired. The Democrats are getting outmaneuvered worse than the GOP was during the primaries. Apparently what Conway did is some great crime (most Americans see something that should get her suspended for a couple weeks or fined at most). The Democrats in a bid to oppose Trump on immigration have all but embraced open borders and open defiance of any immigration laws. Their entire reputation as a party rests on whether or not any of those refugees decides to commit a terrorist act. All it takes is one of them shooting up a school and the Dems are finished for the next two elections. They could have played in smart and had a nucleus of NeverTrumpers while have some voices speak publicly about immigration reform and increasing border and refugee security, but they caved to the Huffpo/Salon wing of the party and now are left claiming essentially that people from Libya, Syria, Sudan, etc. pose no danger. The women's march was great for the left and was a freak show to middle and right-wing america. The Dems can't win on judges and are left with praying for the good health of Octogenarians Kennedy, Breyer and Ginsburg and the diabetic and overweight Sotomayor.
Quote from: Mr.DeMartino on February 10, 2017, 01:42:35 pmYes Democrats, Conway just gave you the tools to impeach Donald Trump. I'm sure the country will rally behind an attempt to impeach Trump over that or failing that, just get her fired. The Democrats are getting outmaneuvered worse than the GOP was during the primaries. Apparently what Conway did is some great crime (most Americans see something that should get her suspended for a couple weeks or fined at most). The Democrats in a bid to oppose Trump on immigration have all but embraced open borders and open defiance of any immigration laws. Their entire reputation as a party rests on whether or not any of those refugees decides to commit a terrorist act. All it takes is one of them shooting up a school and the Dems are finished for the next two elections. They could have played in smart and had a nucleus of NeverTrumpers while have some voices speak publicly about immigration reform and increasing border and refugee security, but they caved to the Huffpo/Salon wing of the party and now are left claiming essentially that people from Libya, Syria, Sudan, etc. pose no danger. The women's march was great for the left and was a freak show to middle and right-wing america. The Dems can't win on judges and are left with praying for the good health of Octogenarians Kennedy, Breyer and Ginsburg and the diabetic and overweight Sotomayor.That kid who shot up Sandy Hook was from which Muslim country?
Quote from: Savant on February 10, 2017, 01:47:27 pmQuote from: Mr.DeMartino on February 10, 2017, 01:42:35 pmYes Democrats, Conway just gave you the tools to impeach Donald Trump. I'm sure the country will rally behind an attempt to impeach Trump over that or failing that, just get her fired. The Democrats are getting outmaneuvered worse than the GOP was during the primaries. Apparently what Conway did is some great crime (most Americans see something that should get her suspended for a couple weeks or fined at most). The Democrats in a bid to oppose Trump on immigration have all but embraced open borders and open defiance of any immigration laws. Their entire reputation as a party rests on whether or not any of those refugees decides to commit a terrorist act. All it takes is one of them shooting up a school and the Dems are finished for the next two elections. They could have played in smart and had a nucleus of NeverTrumpers while have some voices speak publicly about immigration reform and increasing border and refugee security, but they caved to the Huffpo/Salon wing of the party and now are left claiming essentially that people from Libya, Syria, Sudan, etc. pose no danger. The women's march was great for the left and was a freak show to middle and right-wing america. The Dems can't win on judges and are left with praying for the good health of Octogenarians Kennedy, Breyer and Ginsburg and the diabetic and overweight Sotomayor.That kid who shot up Sandy Hook was from which Muslim country?Nope, but the next one might be. And if it is, the Dems are going to pay an enormous political price. If you get a school shooting or a Nice type attack and body county, it's over for the Dems at least until 2022.The thing is that the Dems are putting their reputation into the hands of outside actors (always a bad move) they have no control over and if just one out of 100,000 is a terrorist in disguise (which mathematically, the odds virtually dictate it), then oof...Meanwhile if nothing happens, Trump gets to claim victory "I brought law and order. Made America safe again. Winning." It's a bad all around position for the Democrats.They could have prevented this by having a superficial split within the party- the liberal Sanders-Warren wing goes hard after Trump on this along with a good chunk of the base. Meanwhile, Durbin, Manchin, and a few others look at ways of strengthening safeguards while trying to push a compromise piece of legislation. That way, you have political cover if an attack takes place.
quote author=thunderlipsThe election has been beaten to death on here. We are NOT talking about the whys or hows. This is about Trump's inability to govern now. The election is over, thank you dog.Try arguing why you think Trump won't be impeached post election please.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_StatesTo date, no U.S. President has been removed from office by impeachment and conviction.At the federal level, Article II of the United States Constitution states in Section 4 that "The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors." The House of Representatives has the sole power of impeaching, while the United States Senate has the sole power to try all impeachments.
I still do not know how possible it is to answer this question. I can't see how you can call for impeachment when the basis has, as far as I have seen, been established. What are "high crimes and misdemeanors"?Unless someone can convincingly define what "crimes and misdemeanors" are and explain why impeachment is not an inherently political process, I think it is just as well to look at pictures of fish.
In eight years no one every started an impeach Obama thread? Or was it disappeared? This site is so biased it’s pathetic. Remember how the whole Trump phenomenon started with pages and pages of people saying terrible things about Trump and his supporters, but once people started saying positive things about Trump it got deleted? And then new threads about Trump were also deleted? Why do you people behave in this way? You create your own echo chambers. Noise builds on noise, escalating till it drowns out what little original thought you had. This thread is absurd.
But yeah, mods deleting positive things about Trump was creepy and pathetic.
I did not know the mods had deleted Trump threads. They're pretty useless in general, but being actively useless is worse.
Quote from: orionchocopie on February 13, 2017, 03:15:17 pmI did not know the mods had deleted Trump threads. Fake news, I suspect!.
I did not know the mods had deleted Trump threads.
Quote from: Adel on February 13, 2017, 05:17:17 pmQuote from: orionchocopie on February 13, 2017, 03:15:17 pmI did not know the mods had deleted Trump threads. Fake news, I suspect!. Probably someone said Pocahontas, tee hee hee...Because that is "hate speech" you know...