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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #500 on: May 02, 2017, 12:53:08 am »

Lavrov Dismantles UK-Led Sarin 'Investigation' in 30 Seconds

Lavrov blows the whistle on the OPCW and its 'investigations' in Syria

April 25th

Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has a simple message for the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons: Stop with the bullshit.

Speaking with journalists in Moscow on Monday, Lavrov pointed out that the OPCW has taken more than four months to 'analyze' chemical samples from Aleppo, which would likely implicate Syrian 'opposition' forces in war crimes. And surprise, surprise — the OPCW needs even more time before it can release a report.

Meanwhile, it took this prestigious organization only four days to declare that Sarin was used in the April 4 attack in Khan Sheikhun.

Lavrov is not amused:


Four months ago, together with our Syrian colleagues, we sent samples that we got from Aleppo, after it was liberated. We believe these samples are evidence of the fact that opposition armed groups used chemical weapons.

Four months later — no results. And they say they need more time.

But this other unit, that processes complaints about the Syrian regime, as we were told, released a statement several days after the Idlib incident. And that statement confirms the initial allegations, allegations by NGOs and the White Helmets, that it was Sarin. So in one case we have 4 months — nothing happens, no information is released. But in the other case the other unit issues that statement in just 4 days. But there’s no data — what laboratory was used, what were the samples like, where were they taken?

How can this be? Lavrov knows:


The mission should provide for geographical diversity. As I said, this mechanism is comprised of two units, one receives applications and complains from the Syrian government, and the other processes complaints about the Syrian government.

And both of the units are chaired by UK citizens.

Lavrov then delivers the final blow:

Jokes aside, it’s an attempt to create a distorted perspective, and then to use this distorted reality to in an attempt to avoid an inclusive dialogue and switch to regime change operations. Another regime change operation in this region.





 


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #501 on: May 02, 2017, 05:54:40 am »
Next time include the fake news / pro-Kremlin link in your copy and paste.

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/lavrov-dismantles-uk-led-sarin-investigation-30-seconds/ri19679

I'm gonna go with the 'mainstream media'.

France: Analysis shows Syrian government behind sarin attack
http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2017/04/france_analysis_shows_syrian_g.html

Hmmm. Who should I believe- the French foreign minister or the Russian foreign minister?


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #502 on: May 02, 2017, 12:12:39 pm »
Not as tiny as Trump's hands. Did you even watch it? The media got ribbed on.

Hand joke. That's original and hasn't been played out.

The media got tweaked by its own. They called Steve Bannon a Nazi and asserted that Jeff Sessions was some guy who sat around dropping N-Bombs the whole time. False equivalence.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #503 on: May 02, 2017, 12:13:21 pm »
I'm gonna go with the 'mainstream media'.

Even though it has been proven to consistently lie to you?

Even though there is no motive for Assad to have done so?

And the US government and affiliates had every motive to do so.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #504 on: May 02, 2017, 12:17:18 pm »
Next time include the fake news / pro-Kremlin link in your copy and paste.

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/lavrov-dismantles-uk-led-sarin-investigation-30-seconds/ri19679

I'm gonna go with the 'mainstream media'.

France: Analysis shows Syrian government behind sarin attack
http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2017/04/france_analysis_shows_syrian_g.html

Hmmm. Who should I believe- the French foreign minister or the Russian foreign minister?

Life Improvement, for someone who claims to be rational, you do realize that you are dismissing things based on who is saying them, in particular their nationality, and not on the merits of what they are saying? Shouldn't you be pointing out inconsistencies in Lavrov's claim and debunking that, not simply that this was published in the RT?

After all the issue is what Lavrov said, not what the RT reported.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #505 on: May 02, 2017, 12:24:17 pm »
Next time include the fake news / pro-Kremlin link in your copy and paste.

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/lavrov-dismantles-uk-led-sarin-investigation-30-seconds/ri19679

I'm gonna go with the 'mainstream media'.

France: Analysis shows Syrian government behind sarin attack
http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2017/04/france_analysis_shows_syrian_g.html

Hmmm. Who should I believe- the French foreign minister or the Russian foreign minister?

Life Improvement, for someone who claims to be rational, you do realize that you are dismissing things based on who is saying them, in particular their nationality, and not on the merits of what they are saying? Shouldn't you be pointing out inconsistencies in Lavrov's claim and debunking that, not simply that this was published in the RT?

After all the issue is what Lavrov said, not what the RT reported.

What Lavrov says and what the RT reports is from the same mouthpiece. One corroborates the other.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #506 on: May 02, 2017, 12:25:56 pm »
Not as tiny as Trump's hands. Did you even watch it? The media got ribbed on.

Hand joke. That's original and hasn't been played out.

The media got tweaked by its own. They called Steve Bannon a Nazi and asserted that Jeff Sessions was some guy who sat around dropping N-Bombs the whole time. False equivalence.

I bet you just watched it in silence the entire time. The jokes just flying over your head.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #507 on: May 02, 2017, 12:43:20 pm »
What Lavrov says and what the RT reports is from the same mouthpiece. One corroborates the other.

'French news', 'oregon live' and the 'mainstream media" are all from the same mouthpiece.

Western media is all owned and commanded from the same source: it is all a propaganda ministry for Washington.

Where is the motive? For Assad
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #508 on: May 02, 2017, 02:49:18 pm »
What it all comes down to in Washington D.C. is money.  Control the money and you control the power.  In my opinion, the current “budget” encounter with congress is the foremost test of Trump’s leadership to date.  Further, that the “tone” he sets now will influence everything else to come.  Basically, that how he leads on spending issues will also determine if congress has some “fear” of him.  I believe that to be an effective president requires that congress has some fear of you. 

IMHO, this budget deal reveals that Trump did not perform as advertised; in that he did not lead congress on this spending bill.  Remember that the Senate and the House are controlled by Republicans..... This "deal" also clearly shows that “establishment” Republicans, Democrats and bureaucrats are reinstating their firm control, and even bragging about it (see NYT below).

Unfortunately, it is starting look like the W. Bush/Obama way of doing things will continue – i.e. business as usual in Washington….

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1.  Why Congress’s Bipartisan Budget Deal Should Make Trump Worried 

The New York Times
By CARL HULSE2 hrs ago

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-congress%e2%80%99s-bipartisan-budget-deal-should-make-trump-worried/ar-BBABzHF?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=LENDHP

WASHINGTON — By cutting a bipartisan spending compromise among themselves, Republicans and Democrats in Congress not only prevented the White House from delivering on President Trump’s priorities in his very first budget, they also drafted a handy blueprint for circumventing the Trump administration in the future.
It was an outcome that should worry the new president even though Mr. Trump will be spared the humiliation of a government shutdown early in his tenure if he signs the legislation.....

“We were sort of a united front, Republicans and Democrats, opposed to Trump,” said Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the Democratic leader, in an interview.


2.  Trump Says He’ll Sign Congress Spending Deal That Jettisons His Goals

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-05-01/congress-strikes-tentative-deal-on-1-1-trillion-spending-bill

by Billy House ‎May‎ ‎01‎, ‎2017‎ ‎8‎:‎49‎ ‎AM ‎May‎ ‎02‎, ‎2017‎ ‎12‎:‎50‎ ‎AM

Overall, the compromise resembles more of an Obama administration-era spending bill than a Trump one……. 


3.  Democrats confident they can block Trump’s agenda after spending-bill win

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/after-their-spending-bill-win-democrats-confident-they-can-block-trumps-agenda/2017/05/01/5be2915e-2e97-11e7-9534-00e4656c22aa_story.html?utm_term=.e7420b2fd721

By Kelsey Snell and John Wagner By Kelsey Snell and John Wagner May 1 at 8:15 PM
 
Democrats believe they have set the stage to block President Trump’s legislative priorities for years to come by winning major concessions in a spending bill to keep the government open…..

Democrats’ lopsided victory on the five-month deal, which is likely to be approved this week, means it will be very difficult — if not impossible — for the GOP to exert its will in future budget negotiations, including when it comes to Trump’s 2018 budget blueprint…..

In addition to the $5 billion in domestic spending, the bipartisan agreement released early Monday morning is packed with Democratic priorities….
       
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #509 on: May 02, 2017, 08:56:20 pm »
Trump has been completely emasculated.

The military-industrial complex rules: an out-of-control monster whose only interest is increasing its own power and profits.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #510 on: May 02, 2017, 09:20:16 pm »
They've got France, they've got Canada, they've got South Korea... the only independent sovereign states standing up to globalism are the nice guys running Russia, Syria, China, Iran, and North Korea. :-[


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #511 on: May 02, 2017, 10:11:50 pm »
They've got France, they've got Canada, they've got South Korea... the only independent sovereign states standing up to globalism are the nice guys running Russia, Syria, China, Iran, and North Korea.

That's the closest thing to truth you've written in a year.

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What it all comes down to in Washington D.C. is money.  Control the money and you control the power.
This "deal" also clearly shows that “establishment” Republicans, Democrats and bureaucrats are reinstating their firm control

President Eisenhower warned of the rise of the military-industrial complex back in 1961.

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Before and during the Second World War, American industries had successfully converted to defense production as the crisis demanded, but out of the war, what Eisenhower called a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions emerged. This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience Eisenhower warned, [while] we recognize the imperative need for this development.. we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications.. we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence…The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. Eisenhower cautioned that the federal government’s collaboration with an alliance of military and industrial leaders, though necessary, was vulnerable to abuse of power. Ike then counseled American citizens to be vigilant in monitoring the military-industrial complex. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/eisenhower-warns-of-military-industrial-complex


Imagine how much more entrenched they are now 60 years later!

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #512 on: May 03, 2017, 09:00:23 am »
What Lavrov says and what the RT reports is from the same mouthpiece. One corroborates the other.

So when Reuters reports that Lavrov denies Russian hacking, are they a Russian mouthpiece?
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-cyber-lavrov-idUSKBN15X0DR

By your logic, the NYTimes or the Guardian or AlJazeera or the Stockton Times-Picayune could have carried Lavrov's remarks and they would be mouthpieces as well.

You don't judge things (totally) by the source. You judge it based on the content. That requires critical thinking.

CNN is not right and truthful 100% of the time. The RT is not wrong and lying 100% of the time. CNN may frequently be more right and truthful, but especially when it comes to foreign affairs, it should not be given implicit trust.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #513 on: May 03, 2017, 09:17:34 am »
Sergey Lavrov is the Sean Spicer of Russia. Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf. Of course he's going to say that. Reuters simply reported that he claimed that (without any additional commentary).


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #514 on: May 03, 2017, 10:25:37 am »
Incidentally, Trump's spin doctors are making bank. Millions. Look at Kellyanne Conway's house:



...and...

https://therealdeal.com/2017/04/30/kellyanne-conway-just-bought-an-alternative-house/

She has $39.3 million in assets. 

Sean Spicer is worth $9 million.

Steve Bannon made two million last year.

People working for Trump are getting fat stacks of cash.

So are incidental Trump supporters fake news writers (via ad revenue from their clickbait websites).


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #515 on: May 03, 2017, 10:38:47 am »
^ Anybody who is any good at anything, and understands investing, should be worth $6M by the time they are old. If not they don't know what they are doing and shouldn't be in charge of anything.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #516 on: May 03, 2017, 11:13:42 am »
What's your net worth, Ptolemy? C'mon, this message board is anonymous; you can tell us. How many millions?


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #517 on: May 03, 2017, 11:27:31 am »
Most Americans aren't millionaires.

The United States has approximately 13,554,000 millionaires- roughly 4% of the total U.S. population.

Four percent is not a lot. One in twenty-five.

It takes a lot of ambition, hard work, intelligence, and sometimes even luck.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #518 on: May 03, 2017, 11:33:03 am »
Incidentally, Trump's spin doctors are making bank. Millions. Look at Kellyanne Conway's house:


...and...

https://therealdeal.com/2017/04/30/kellyanne-conway-just-bought-an-alternative-house/

She has $39.3 million in assets. 

Sean Spicer is worth $9 million.

Steve Bannon made two million last year.

People working for Trump are getting fat stacks of cash.

So are incidental Trump supporters fake news writers (via ad revenue from their clickbait websites).

Looks like they have done pretty good at only a little over three months into the presidency.  I wonder how “poor” they were before the election?

If you want to start playing the “who has more money game,” rich Democrats or rich Republicans, you do realize I can start posting pictures of George Clooney’s HOUSES:
 
star already owns properties in Los Angeles, Mexico, and near Lake Como in Italy, and is planning to move into his new marital home in England with wife Amal later this year once renovations are complete.
However, George has his eye on a clifftop villa in the seaside town of Castiglione della Pescaia, an area recommended to the actor by his chef pal Federico Salza, and he has reportedly made a bid on the house.
http://www.torontosun.com/2015/10/08/george-clooney-buying-tuscany-vacation-home-report

I wonder what George Soros owns?

Or, how is it that the Clintons, who basically have sparse time working in the private sector, now have a total net worth over US 100 million dollars (politics pays...).  You can see Hillary’s net worth below in comparison’s to others.

Here is a link to the house that the Obamas have leased in D.C.  In 2014, the house sold for over US 5 million dollars - not bad for a community organizer…..  I guess if you get $400,000 from Wall Street for one speech, they will eventually add up…..

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/25/politics/obama-kalorama-washington-dc-leases-house/index.html

As I have said before, Washington is all about money and it doesn’t matter which party you label yourself… Lastly, if you work hard and "honestly" there is nothing wrong with making money....

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Some of Obama’s staff net worth:
Former Chief of Staffs:  Bill Daley ‘s average net worth was an estimated $28.7 million, Daley’s predecessor, Rahm Emanuel, had an average worth of about $11.4 million in 2010.

Former Secretary of State John Kerry’s net worth: $194 million dollarsWould you like to see pictures of his houses?

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/12/president-barack-obama-wealth/

https://www.bing.com/search?q=john+kerry%27s+net+worth&form=PRUSEN&pc=EUPP_&mkt=en-us&httpsmsn=1&refig=1107100766ad403eb2cadbeb36a9ebd3&sp=-1&pq=john+kerry%27s+net+worth&sc=8-22&qs=n&sk=&cvid=1107100766ad403eb2cadbeb36a9ebd3

Hillary Clinton Net Worth
TOM GERENCERNOV 1, 2016

HTTP://MONEYNATION.COM/HILLARY-CLINTON-NET-WORTH/

The Hillary Clinton net worth total of $31.3 million comes from analyzing her Public Financial Disclosure Reports. Bill Clinton has an estimated net worth of $80 million. That gives a combined Bill and Hillary Clinton net worth of $111 million dollars.

U.S. presidential candidates aren’t required to reveal their exact net worth, so Hillary Clinton’s is only available within a range. Clinton has reported net worth assets of at least $10,830,007 and at most $51.7 million. Mrs. Clinton did not report any real estate or debts. If the Clintons do own property or debts, it’s all in Bill Clinton’s name. Placing assets and liabilities in Bill’s name would mean they wouldn’t be reported as part of Hillary Clinton’s net worth.

Figuring Mrs. Clinton’s minimum and maximum assets gives an average Hillary Clinton net worth of $31,265,004.

Hillary Clinton Net Worth Facts
•   Hillary Clinton net worth: $31.3 million (average)
•   Hillary Clinton minimum possible net worth: $10.8 million.
•   Hillary Clinton maximum possible net worth: $51.7 million.
•   Lowest Hillary Clinton net worth figure ever: Negative $8,000,000 in 2001.
•   Hillary Clinton net worth vs Bernie Sanders net worth: 59 times larger.
•   Hillary Clinton net worth vs Jeb Bush net worth: 1.5 times larger.
•   Hillary Clinton net worth vs Ben Carson net worth: About the same.
•   Hillary Clinton net worth vs Carly Fiorina net worth: about half.
•   Hillary Clinton net worth vs Bill Clinton net worth: 2.6 times smaller.
•   Hillary Clinton net worth vs median U.S. household net worth: 459 times larger.
•   Hillary Clinton net worth vs Bill Gates net worth: 2,580 times smaller.


           
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #519 on: May 03, 2017, 11:43:51 am »
Hillary Clinton reported receiving an $8 million advance for her memoir, Living History. The contract was signed the day before she took her oath as a U.S. senator. Bill was already collecting a $10 million advance for My Life, and when Hillary stepped down as secretary of state, she got an advance of $14 million for Hard Choices.

Write books people want to read (buy) and you can get millions.

Speeches are similar to books in a way, but with live appearance talking.

And if you are smart and knowledgeable you can get compensation for consulting.