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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #420 on: April 05, 2017, 04:32:26 pm »


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #421 on: April 05, 2017, 06:49:23 pm »
“Today’s chemical attack in Syria against innocent people, including women and children, is reprehensible and cannot be ignored by the civilized world,” Mr. Trump said in the statement released by the White House. “These heinous actions by the Bashar al-Assad regime are a consequence of the past administration’s weakness and irresolution.”

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #422 on: April 06, 2017, 01:05:37 am »
Obama, the President of the United States, publically draws a “red” line with Assad/Syria, completely ignores it, and that is considered acceptable foreign policy.

What happened was....Obama wanted to invade Syria to replace Assad with a puppet regime.

So his spin doctors started making a pretext to sell to the American people ahead of time- "If Assad uses chemical weapons we can go in"...

Then whadya know, a short time later there was a chemical attack which they used to blame on Assad.

Only in reality the attack was carried out by western-backed rebels, not Assad as the fake media rushed to report.

At this point Putin said No and removed all Assads stockpile of chemical weapons out of the country, thereby depriving Washington of its excuse to invade.

Washington hates Russia because it is able to stand in the way of their imperialistic wars.

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“Today’s chemical attack in Syria against innocent people, including women and children, is reprehensible and cannot be ignored by the civilized world,” Mr. Trump said in the statement released by the White House. “These heinous actions by the Bashar al-Assad regime are a consequence of the past administration’s weakness and irresolution.”

FAKE NEWS

You are really a sucker, aren't ya?

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3 reasons why reports of a Syrian chemical weapons attack on Idlib are fake news

The lack of objectivity is staggering.

An alleged chemical attack in Idlib has been blamed on the Syrian government and on Russia.

The allegations can scarcely be taken serious for the following reasons:

1. Syria Does Not Have Chemical Weapons

Not only did the Syrian government deny using chemical weapons, but they released a statement stating that the Syrian military


“…has not and does not use them, not in the past and not in the future, because it does not have them in the first place”.

In 2013, a report from the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons-UN Joint Mission in Syria, concluded that all chemical weapons have been removed from Syria. The mission was overseen by both the United States and Russia with the cooperation of the Syrian government.

However, since then, various terrorist groups operating in Syria have used chemical weapons, including poisonous sarin gas. Chemical weapons have been discovered across territories of Syria that were once held by terrorist forces. Throughout much of  the Syrian conflict, politically motivated sources have accused Syria and her allies of using chemical weapons, in spite of the fact that the opposite is true.

2. Russia Did Not Conduct Any Air Strikes on Idlib

A statement from the Russian military has confirmed that Russian planes have not been present anywhere in the Idlib Governorate. This exposes any allegations relating to Russian involvement in any event in Idlib as entirely fabricated.

3. Fake News from Fake Sources

The initial Reuters report on the event cites the UK based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights as its source. This organisation has been widely discredited as a propaganda outlet that has few actual contacts in Syria, if any.

Because few western mainstream media reporters are on the ground anywhere in Syria, much of the information reported as factual accounts of events, is received from deeply biased and politicised sources pushing an agenda. In other words, pro-terrorist NGOs and other organisations feed mainstream media with disinformation that is passed on as fact.

The absurdity of the latest allegation against Syria and her allies, is yet another example of how fake news has developed during the Syrian war. It is a simple matter of totally unreliable sources being cited as deliverers of fact, without anyone in major outlets questioning their veracity.

This is what has allowed the false narrative about Syria to become pervasive in Europe and the establishment English language press.

https://theduran.com/3-reasons-why-reports-of-a-syrian-chemical-weapons-attack-on-idlib-are-fake-news/
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Jumping to conclusions; something is not adding up in Idlib chemical weapons attack

BEIRUT, LEBANON (4:47 P.M.) – At least 58 people were killed in a horrific gas attack in the Idlib Governorate this morning. However, even before investigations could be conducted and for evidence to emerge, Federica Mogherini, the Italian politician High Representative of the European Union (EU) for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, condemned the Syrian government stating that the “Assad regime bears responsibility for ‘awful’ Syria ‘chemical’ attack.”

The immediate accusation from a high ranking EU official serves a dangerous precedent where public outcry can be made even before the truth surrounding the tragedy can emerge

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46801.htm

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/jumping-conclusions-something-not-adding-idlib-chemical-weapons-attack/

Trump has been easily deceived by the CIA. They've put him right where they want him: on a collision course with Russia.
Trump =  clueless pawn of the elites

You never seem to get it, mayr hagar.

Washington has realized that assad is winning, so they have opted for plan B: invade Syria then partition it.
Then keep part of syria as a safe zone for rebels (isis) from which the US can launch attacks and destabilize Assad's Syria indefinitely. At least until they get the pipeline they want.

This false flag gas attack was staged to whip up americans into a frenzy so they can justify deeper military action in the country.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #424 on: April 06, 2017, 09:28:52 am »
State-run dictatorial propaganda mills = good

Objective journalism that throws shade on Glorious Comrade Putin = bad

Though it is cute seeing a Russian troll saying Trump's own words are fake news. This is like troll inception.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #425 on: April 06, 2017, 10:04:29 am »
I don't see any reason to believe the chemical attack was committed by government forces.


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #426 on: April 06, 2017, 10:10:42 am »
I trust the CIA about as far as I could throw them.

Imagine the CIA lying about a Baathist regime having WMDs? ;)


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #428 on: April 07, 2017, 12:02:47 am »
Quote from: Mayorhagar
Though it is cute seeing a Russian troll saying Trump's own words are fake news

Why would Assad, who is winning the war, suddenly turn around and attack his own people with gas?


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Idlib Chemical Attack Staged to Blame Damascus – Syrian Lawmaker

Syrian lawmaker Halid Abud claims that the reported chemical attack in Syria’s Idlib was plotted by foreign governments to turn up political pressure on Damascus.

The lawmaker suggested Western countries had recently found themselves on the losing side and needed to create leverage against the "steady position of Iran and Russia on Syria."

Abud argued the Syrian government did not have means to drop chemical weapons far from its seat in Damascus and consequently the attack was caused by people, trying to cast shadow on the Syrian authorities

Syrian president Bashar Assad has been widely blamed for ordering the attack, although he said previously his government held no chemical weapons after agreeing to have them destroyed in 2013. He also ruled out having used chemicals against his own people.

The UN-backed OPCW, which oversaw the withdrawal of Syria’s chemical stockpile, said in January 2016 the arsenal had been fully destroyed
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201704051052337497-idlib-chemical-attack-staged/

In fact how could Assad have survived in power at all, if he constantly attacked his own people, as you claim?

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Not taking the bait: Sean Spicer ignores false flag chemical attack in Syria

Hours after an apparently self-evident false flag chemical attack in Idlib, Sean Spicer affirmed that it is no longer US policy to remove President Bashar al-Assad from power.

Spicer said, "There is not a fundamental option of regime change as there has been in the past".

 The White House Press Secretary continued,

"We would look rather silly not acknowledging the political realities that exist in Syria, and now what we need to do...is do what we can to empower the people of Syria to find a different way"
This represents a clear departure from the Obama administration which seemed to double-down on calls for regime change when ever a fake news report attributing atrocities to either Syrian or Russian forces came out in the mainstream media.

 The fundamental reasons why the report of a Syrian chemical attack is fake news are laid out in full in an initial debunking report from The Duran. 

 Since that piece was published, propaganda photos were published showing the infamous al-Qaeda allied White Helmets handling the bodies of supposed sarin gas attack victims.

Shortly after the incident in Idlib, a suspiciously well timed piece from the White Helmets founder, falsely claiming to be the head of Syrian Civil Defence, was published in Britain's Guardian newspaper, urging EU leaders not to reach any kind of deal with the legitimate government of Syria during tomorrow's peace talks in Brussels.

The story which on the most fundamental evidence was clearly fake, now looks like a well timed false flag propaganda move.

 It's a pity that just as those in the western mainstream media have come to realise that the term 'false flag' is am actual thing, they still haven't come to grips with what it means.

 It seems that for once, the White House is not taking the bait.
https://www.sott.net/article/347268-Not-taking-the-bait-Sean-Spicer-ignores-false-flag-chemical-attack-in-Syria


Lets hope Spicer is able to drill some sense into the president.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #430 on: April 07, 2017, 07:55:05 am »
In fact how could Assad have survived in power at all, if he constantly attacked his own people, as you claim?
I agree that there is a shadow of a doubt about whether or not it was the Syrian government who used the chemical weapons, but your above statement is pretty funny.  :smiley:
I can list dozens of well known national leaders who survived in power by constantly attacking their own people. Heck, many of them *gained* their political power by doing so.


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #431 on: April 07, 2017, 08:18:04 am »
But the fundamental questions remain: 1) How could the Syrian government commit a chemical weapons attack when it was confirmed to have destroyed all of its chemical weapons. 2) What in the world would be the motive for such an attack? Hey, we're about to win the war and reclaim our influence over the whole country -- let's do something insane so the whole world invades us.

The idea that the government did this makes no sense. The Western-backed, head-chopping Salafist opposition clearly had more of a motive, and possibly more means to do it.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #432 on: April 07, 2017, 08:56:58 am »
But the fundamental questions remain: 1) How could the Syrian government commit a chemical weapons attack when it was confirmed to have destroyed all of its chemical weapons. 2) What in the world would be the motive for such an attack? Hey, we're about to win the war and reclaim our influence over the whole country -- let's do something insane so the whole world invades us.

The idea that the government did this makes no sense. The Western-backed, head-chopping Salafist opposition clearly had more of a motive, and possibly more means to do it.

But were all of their chemical weapons destroyed?

They only had to "declare" the chemical weapons they had or could manufacture. It doesn't mean that they provided a comprehensive list of all of their chemical weapons.


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #433 on: April 07, 2017, 08:59:54 am »
Well, who knows. Still lookin' for those Iraqi WMDs, though...


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #434 on: April 07, 2017, 09:26:54 am »
Quote from: Mayorhagar
Though it is cute seeing a Russian troll saying Trump's own words are fake news

Why would Assad, who is winning the war, suddenly turn around and attack his own people with gas?




Because he's been killing his own people for years, and Russia backs him up every time so he gets away with it?

It's telling that you know this looks bad so you and Putin turn to the usual Russia tactic of making up insane conspiracy theories to change the subject.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #435 on: April 07, 2017, 09:43:32 am »
Insane conspiracy theories like the CIA is lying that Saddam has nukes? Or like just 4 years ago, they were lying when they said Assad staged a chemical attack, and it was actually the opposition?

Without any proof presented whatsoever that the Syrian government committed this attack (which they flatly deny), yours is the conspiracy theory.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #436 on: April 07, 2017, 10:38:23 am »
There's a difference between a lie and a miscalculation / error.

And the CIA never said Saddam had nukes.

He actually came really close in the past but Israeli planes bombed the facilities.

Chemical attacks were used by the Syrian government (just as they were used by Saddam in the past).

Even your pal Trump knows this.

Now the U.S. is  launching missiles against Syria. Check the news.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #437 on: April 07, 2017, 11:37:31 am »
Trump launches military strike against Syria

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/06/politics/donald-trump-syria-military/index.html

On President Donald Trump's orders, US warships launched between 50-60 Tomahawk cruise missiles at a Syrian government airbase where the warplanes that carried out the chemical attacks were based, US officials said.

"Tonight, I ordered a targeted military strike on the air field in Syria from where the chemical attack was launched," Trump said during short remarks to reporters at Mar-a-Lago. "It is in this vital national security of the United States to prevent and deter the spread and use of deadly chemical weapons."

He added: "There can be no dispute that Syria used banned chemical weapons, violated its obligations under the Chemical Weapons Convention and ignored the urging of the UN Security Council. Years of previous attempts at changing Assad's behavior have all failed and failed very dramatically."

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/06/politics/donald-trump-syria-military/index.html


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #438 on: April 07, 2017, 11:43:48 am »
Trump may be the last American president!


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #439 on: April 07, 2017, 11:47:15 am »
I doubt it. The U.S. is too strong to be destroyed. Only an Islamic suicide bomber who wants to go to heaven for dying in war would try. Russia = not stupid. They (Putin, etc.) know their military is much weaker.