Quote from: Ronnie Omelettes on November 15, 2019, 12:41:15 pmIf only there was something to comment on in American politics at the moment. If only there was some slick, relevant, legal, constitutional investigation conducted live on tv to show the American public that their president is a corrupt fraud who can't do anything legally even if he tried. All his party seem to be doing is speaking about conspiracy theories and diversions that don't mean anything, because that's all they've got. Imagine that? You have Schiff and the Democrats interviewing and trying to find out the facts, while the jacketless gym jordan is spouting absolute crap. trump loves ratings, but he seems to hate these ratings. You know what's telling? We are smack dab in the middle of impeachment and there's barely a peep out of people at this point. I think the public has pretty much retreated to their respective camps and it seems people in the middle have just tuned out. Probably because for the last 3 years the left has been constantly shrieking about one thing after another in a display that has made the Boy Who Cried Wolf seem like a model of restraint.
If only there was something to comment on in American politics at the moment. If only there was some slick, relevant, legal, constitutional investigation conducted live on tv to show the American public that their president is a corrupt fraud who can't do anything legally even if he tried. All his party seem to be doing is speaking about conspiracy theories and diversions that don't mean anything, because that's all they've got. Imagine that? You have Schiff and the Democrats interviewing and trying to find out the facts, while the jacketless gym jordan is spouting absolute crap. trump loves ratings, but he seems to hate these ratings.
Trump intimidating the witness during Live Impeachent Hearings.The Orange one just can't help himself.
Quote from: Savant on November 16, 2019, 11:16:58 amTrump intimidating the witness during Live Impeachent Hearings.The Orange one just can't help himself.Lol, what a hyperbolic take on Trump's tweet. Please, PLEASE impeach him over that tweet and try and claim it was witness intimidation. Do you have any idea how much of a dud that would be with the non-Trump hating public? They'd look at that and laugh. Just like Republicans need to not lap up Breitbart, people on the left need to not regurgitate every point made by their side.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjlEDE1chhAEven Burger King checks references, but the person responsible for hiring a senior White House official essentially rubber stamped Chang’s employment papers.Take a look at Mina Chang.She’s freaking gorgeous, and I guarantee you that her looks allowed her to pull this off. Let’s face it: If she looked like Danny DeVito, she never would’ve made it through the front door.But that’s how it goes.Beauty has an interesting way of distracting us from truth.https://www.energyandcapital.com/articles/how-mina-chang-is-like-a-beautiful-stock/94102
DeMartino, have you been watching / listening to any of the hearings? If the witnesses are telling the truth, it really does point toward a scheme cooked up by Trump and Giuliani to benefit his 2020 campaign. If they're not telling the truth, then I guess they've all decided to perjure themselves, for no obvious reason. And if they're lying, we should be able to hear credible counter narratives in the form of sworn testimony from people like Trump, Giuliani, Mulvaney and other state department officials with first-hand knowledge of events. However, Trump has blocked them from testifying and refused to submit the requested documents. If such testimony and material evidence would exonerate them, why do you think they're going to such lengths to avoid it seeing any daylight?
Quote from: fka on November 16, 2019, 02:53:54 pmDeMartino, have you been watching / listening to any of the hearings? If the witnesses are telling the truth, it really does point toward a scheme cooked up by Trump and Giuliani to benefit his 2020 campaign. If they're not telling the truth, then I guess they've all decided to perjure themselves, for no obvious reason. And if they're lying, we should be able to hear credible counter narratives in the form of sworn testimony from people like Trump, Giuliani, Mulvaney and other state department officials with first-hand knowledge of events. However, Trump has blocked them from testifying and refused to submit the requested documents. If such testimony and material evidence would exonerate them, why do you think they're going to such lengths to avoid it seeing any daylight? Biden's numbers have plunged in Iowa since this whole mess has started. Turns out Dem voters also are concerned about Ukrainian corruption. Trump helped all of us.Also, it's a bit rich for the Dems/establishment to whine and moan about Trump doing to them what they did to Trump.
I'll take that as a no, then. Tell me, do you think Donald Trump developed his interest in fighting corruption in the Ukraine before or after he employed Paul Manafort, who earned more than $60 million for lobbying on behalf of self-serving Ukrainian oligarchs and crooked politicians?
What on earth are you talking about? This is no way answers anything that Fka asked. It's just the usual stupid republican non-defense by just pointing elsewhere. Insufferable and pointless.
Quote from: Ronnie Omelettes on November 19, 2019, 08:22:59 amWhat on earth are you talking about? This is no way answers anything that Fka asked. It's just the usual stupid republican non-defense by just pointing elsewhere. Insufferable and pointless.Biden's numbers have plunged in Iowa since this Ukraine mess began. Seems the Democratic voters of Iowa thought the issue was of relevance, not just the President and Republicans. Ergo, Trump was acting in the interest of the nation, not just himself. A majority of Americans say Hunter Biden being there was "bad judgment" https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/468585-poll-majority-say-hunter-bidens-role-on-ukrainian-energy-board-was-badI think there was enough there for Trump to be justified into looking into things. Also, as Head of State, he gets to decide the direction of our foreign policy, not career bureaucrats.
What this boils down to, and without the republicans stupidly weak defence, is that trump asked for foreign help on a political opponent to try and help him win the 2020 election.