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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2760 on: October 05, 2019, 04:41:00 pm »
Trump has destroyed the Republican Party. Look at them all get in line behind their Dear Leader like good little party members.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2761 on: October 05, 2019, 05:51:49 pm »
Trump has destroyed the Republican Party. Look at them all get in line behind their Dear Leader like good little party members.

Nah, they did that to themselves.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2762 on: October 05, 2019, 06:10:29 pm »
Trump has destroyed the Republican Party. Look at them all get in line behind their Dear Leader like good little party members.

Nah, they did that to themselves. 


Like you they suffer from Stockholm syndrome it seems.    :rolleyes:


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2763 on: October 05, 2019, 11:31:25 pm »
"To be clear: The very act of asking a foreign government to interfere in our elections, that is the impeachable offense. But in these texts we see the abuse of power was taken to another level, with the U.S. diplomatic corps conditioning a renewal of U.S. backing for Ukraine on that country’s follow-through in investigating Trump’s political rival. At least one member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee sees this in black and white:

We now know that Trump was using access to the White House to get a foreign government to help destroy his political rival.

There was an explicit quid pro quo: open an investigation into my rival, and I will invite you to the White House."




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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2764 on: October 06, 2019, 02:53:35 pm »
Trumps phone call with the Ukrainian President was awesome.   
He has every right as commander in chief.
He could ride in on a tank into Los Angeles and enforce immigration, legally. 

Biden’s dealings in the Ukraine were very serious.  He was going to withhold funds unless they fired the guy investigating his son.   Biden admitted it on tv. 

Trump, the highest EXECUTIVE in the country, gets to decide what is important to investigate.   Biden’s case, a case involving a presidential candidate who admitted it,  is very very important. 
Go gators is such a partisan leftist, I just hope he comes out as a joke like copper ab. 
Bonzai!


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2765 on: October 06, 2019, 04:25:39 pm »
Trumps phone call with the Ukrainian President was awesome.   
He has every right as commander in chief.
He could ride in on a tank into Los Angeles and enforce immigration, legally. 

Biden’s dealings in the Ukraine were very serious.  He was going to withhold funds unless they fired the guy investigating his son.   Biden admitted it on tv. 

Trump, the highest EXECUTIVE in the country, gets to decide what is important to investigate.   Biden’s case, a case involving a presidential candidate who admitted it,  is very very important. 
Go gators is such a partisan leftist, I just hope he comes out as a joke like copper ab. 

...not to mention an already, ON GOIN(G ACTIVE INVESTIGATION in the 2016 election into allegations of corruption...the Ukraine is obviously, part of that probe. 

It goes deep...possibly back to HRC being  SOS under Nobama, when he let the Russians crap over the INF  Missile treaty, cooperating with the Ruskies to scrap missile defense in Europe....then, onto HRC accepting donations in connection with Uranium One...(seriously, why wouldn't the Russians WANT the person who sold them 1/5 of the U.S.'s Uranium supply, to be president of the U.S.?)





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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2766 on: October 06, 2019, 04:42:43 pm »
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html



 
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   At the heart of the tale are several men, leaders of the Canadian mining industry, who have been major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.

    Beyond mines in Kazakhstan that are among the most lucrative in the world, the sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States. Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well….

    Soon, Uranium One began to snap up companies with assets in the United States. In April 2007, it announced the purchase of a uranium mill in Utah and more than 38,000 acres of uranium exploration properties in four Western states, followed quickly by the acquisition of the Energy Metals Corporation and its uranium holdings in Wyoming, Texas and Utah.

But wait..there's more...

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html?smid=tw-share

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Late on Sept. 6, 2005, a private plane carrying the Canadian mining financier Frank Giustra touched down in Almaty, a ruggedly picturesque city in southeast Kazakhstan. Several hundred miles to the west a fortune awaited: highly coveted deposits of uranium that could fuel nuclear reactors around the world. And Mr. Giustra was in hot pursuit of an exclusive deal to tap them.

    Unlike more established competitors, Mr. Giustra was a newcomer to uranium mining in Kazakhstan, a former Soviet republic. But what his fledgling company lacked in experience, it made up for in connections. Accompanying Mr. Giustra on his luxuriously appointed MD-87 jet that day was a former president of the United States, Bill Clinton….

    Just months after the Kazakh pact was finalized, Mr. Clinton’s charitable foundation received its own windfall: a $31.3 million donation from Mr. Giustra that had remained a secret until he acknowledged it last month. The gift, combined with Mr. Giustra’s more recent and public pledge to give the William J. Clinton Foundation an additional $100 million, secured Mr. Giustra a place in Mr. Clinton’s inner circle, an exclusive club of wealthy entrepreneurs in which friendship with the former president has its privileges….

    In February 2007, a company called Uranium One agreed to pay $3.1 billion to acquire UrAsia. Mr. Giustra, a director and major shareholder in UrAsia, would be paid $7.05 per share for a company that just two years earlier was trading at 10 cents per share.


..AND, let's not forget about Brennan

https://spectator.org/confirmed-john-brennan-colluded-with-foreign-spies-to-defeat-trump/

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April 19, 2017, 12:00 AM

An article in the Guardian last week provides more confirmation that John Brennan was the American progenitor of political espionage aimed at defeating Donald Trump. One side did collude with foreign powers to tip the election — Hillary’s.

Seeking to retain his position as CIA director under Hillary, Brennan teamed up with British spies and Estonian spies to cripple Trump’s candidacy. He used their phony intelligence as a pretext for a multi-agency investigation into Trump, which led the FBI to probe a computer server connected to Trump Tower and gave cover to Susan Rice, among other Hillary supporters, to spy on Trump and his people.

John Brennan’s CIA operated like a branch office of the Hillary campaign, leaking out mentions of this bogus investigation to the press in the hopes of inflicting maximum political damage on Trump.

A supporter of the American Communist Party at the height of the Cold War, Brennan brought into the CIA a raft of subversives and gave them plum positions from which to gather and leak political espionage on Trump. He bastardized standards so that these left-wing activists could burrow in and take career positions. Under the patina of that phony professionalism, they could then present their politicized judgments as “non-partisan.”

The Guardian story is written in a style designed to flatter its sources (they are cast as high-minded whistleblowers), but the upshot of it is devastating for them, nonetheless, and explains why all the criminal leaks against Trump first originated in the British press. According to the story, Brennan got his anti-Trump tips primarily from British spies but also Estonian spies and others. The story confirms that the seed of the espionage into Trump was planted by Estonia. The BBC’s Paul Wood reported last year that the intelligence agency of an unnamed Baltic State had tipped Brennan off in April 2016 to a conversation purporting to show that the Kremlin was funneling cash into the Trump campaign.

Any other CIA director would have disregarded such a flaky tip, recognizing that Estonia was eager to see Trump lose (its officials had bought into Hillary’s propaganda that Trump was going to pull out of NATO and leave Baltic countries exposed to Putin). But Brennan opportunistically seized on it, as he later that summer seized on the half-baked intelligence of British spy agencies (also full of officials who wanted to see Trump lose).

The Guardian says that British spy head Robert Hannigan “passed material in summer 2016 to the CIA chief, John Brennan.” To ensure that these flaky tips leaked out, Brennan disseminated them on Capitol Hill. In August and September of 2016, he gave briefings to the “Gang of Eight” about them, which then turned up on the front page of the New York Times.

All of this took place at the very moment Brennan was auditioning for Hillary. He desperately wanted to keep his job and despised Trump for his alleged “Muslim ban,” a matter near and dear to Brennan’s heart. Not only was he an apologist for the Muslim Brotherhood, but Brennan’s Islamophilia dated to his days in college, when he spent a year in Cairo learning Arabic and taking courses in Middle Eastern studies. He later got a graduate degree with an emphasis in Middle Eastern studies. In 1996, his ties to the Islamic world tightened after he became the CIA’s station chief in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. He once recalled that “during a 25-year career in government, I was privileged to serve in positions across the Middle East — as a political officer with the State Department and as a CIA station chief in Saudi Arabia. In Saudi Arabia, I saw how our Saudi partners fulfilled their duty as custodians of the two holy mosques of Mecca and Medina. I marveled at the majesty of the Hajj and the devotion of those who fulfilled their duty as Muslims by making that privilege — that pilgrimage.”

Out of this Islamophilia came a special dislike of Michael Flynn, who had planned to rip up the Obama-era “reset” with Muslim countries. Furious with Flynn for his apostasy from political correctness, Brennan and other Obama aides couldn’t resist the temptation to take him out after rifling through transcripts of his calls with the Russian ambassador. They caught him in a lie to Mike Pence and made sure the press knew about it.

Were the media not so completely in the tank for Obama and Hillary, all of this political mischief would make for a compelling 2016 version of All the President’s Men. Instead, the public gets a steady stream of Orwellian propaganda about the sudden propriety of political espionage. The headline writers at Pravda couldn’t improve on this week’s official lie, tweeted out by the Maggie Habermans: “Susan Rice Did Nothing Wrong, Say Both Dem and Republican House Aides.”

Liberals pompously quote the saying — “the bigger the lie, the more it will be believed” — even as their media enshrine it. Historians will look back on 2016 and marvel at the audacity of its big lie: whispers of an imaginary Trump-Russia collusion that wafted up from the fever swamps of a real collusion between John Brennan and foreign powers seeking Trump’s defeat

Oh, the details on Brennan are juicy. 


..the Gaurdian article...(snicker). 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia




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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2767 on: October 06, 2019, 04:45:56 pm »
Trumps phone call with the Ukrainian President was awesome.   
He has every right as commander in chief.
He could ride in on a tank into Los Angeles and enforce immigration, legally. 

Biden’s dealings in the Ukraine were very serious.  He was going to withhold funds unless they fired the guy investigating his son.   Biden admitted it on tv. 

Trump, the highest EXECUTIVE in the country, gets to decide what is important to investigate.   Biden’s case, a case involving a presidential candidate who admitted it,  is very very important. 
Go gators is such a partisan leftist, I just hope he comes out as a joke like copper ab. 

...not to mention an already, ON GOIN(G ACTIVE INVESTIGATION in the 2016 election into allegations of corruption...the Ukraine is obviously, part of that probe. 

It goes deep...possibly back to HRC being  SOS under Nobama, when he let the Russians crap over the INF  Missile treaty, cooperating with the Ruskies to scrap missile defense in Europe....then, onto HRC accepting donations in connection with Uranium One...(seriously, why wouldn't the Russians WANT the person who sold them 1/5 of the U.S.'s Uranium supply, to be president of the U.S.?)





Christ! You two spout more inane conspiracy theories than you would find in a QAnon meeting.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2768 on: October 06, 2019, 05:12:09 pm »
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/435029-as-russia-collusion-fades-ukrainian-plot-to-help-clinton-emerges

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After nearly three years and millions of tax dollars, the Trump-Russia collusion probe is about to be resolved. Emerging in its place is newly unearthed evidence suggesting another foreign effort to influence the 2016 election — this time, in favor of the Democrats.

Ukraine’s top prosecutor divulged in an interview aired Wednesday on Hill.TV that he has opened an investigation into whether his country’s law enforcement apparatus intentionally leaked financial records during the 2016 U.S. presidential campaign about then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort in an effort to sway the election in favor of Hillary Clinton.

The leak of the so-called black ledger files to U.S. media prompted Manafort’s resignation from the Trump campaign and gave rise to one of the key allegations in the Russia collusion probe that has dogged Trump for the last two and a half years.

Ukraine Prosecutor General Yurii Lutsenko’s probe was prompted by a Ukrainian parliamentarian's release of a tape recording purporting to quote a top law enforcement official as saying his agency leaked the Manafort financial records to help Clinton's campaign.

The parliamentarian also secured a court ruling that the leak amounted to “an illegal intrusion into the American election campaign,” Lutsenko told me. Lutsenko said the tape recording is a serious enough allegation to warrant opening a probe, and one of his concerns is that the Ukrainian law enforcement agency involved had frequent contact with the Obama administration’s U.S. Embassy in Kiev at the time. 

“Today we will launch a criminal investigation about this and we will give legal assessment of this information,” Lutsenko told me.

Lutsenko, before becoming prosecutor general, was a major activist against Russia’s influence in his country during the tenure of Moscow-allied former President Viktor Yanukovych. He became chief prosecutor in 2016 as part of anti-corruption reforms instituted by current President Petro Poroshenko, an ally of the U.S. and Western countries. 

Unlike the breathless start to the Russia collusion allegations — in which politicians and news media alike declared a Watergate-sized crisis before the evidence was fully investigated — the Ukraine revelations deserve to be investigated before being accepted.

After all, Ukraine is dogged by rampant corruption. It is a frequent target of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s dirty tricks. And it is a country that, just last year, faked a journalist's death for one day, reportedly to thwart an assassination plot.

But the chief prosecutor, a member of parliament and a court seemingly have enough weight to warrant serious scrutiny of their allegations and an analysis of the audio tape.

Furthermore, the mystery of how the Manafort black ledger files got leaked to American media has never been solved. They surfaced two years after the FBI investigated Manafort over his Ukraine business activities but declined to move forward in 2014 for lack of evidence.

We now have strong evidence that retired British spy Christopher Steele began his quest in what ultimately became the infamous Russia collusion dossier with a series of conversations with top Justice Department official Bruce Ohr between December 2015 and February 2016 about securing evidence against Manafort.

We know the FBI set up shop in the U.S. embassy in Kiev to assist its Ukraine–Manafort inquiry — a common practice on foreign-based probes — while using Steele as an informant at the start of its Russia probe. And we know Clinton’s campaign was using a law firm to pay an opposition research firm for Steele’s work in an effort to stop Trump from winning the presidency, at the same time Steele was aiding the FBI.

Those intersections, coupled with the new allegations by Ukraine’s top prosecutor, are reason enough to warrant a serious, thorough investigation.

If Ukraine law enforcement figures who worked frequently with the U.S. Embassy did leak the Manafort documents in an effort to influence the American election for Clinton, the public deserves to know who knew what, and when.

Lutsenko’s interview with Hill.TV raises another troubling dynamic: The U.S. Embassy and the chief Ukrainian prosecutor, who America entrusts with fighting corruption inside an allied country, currently have a dysfunctional relationship.

In our interview, Lutsenko accused the Obama-era U.S. Embassy in 2016 of interfering in his ability to prosecute corruption cases, saying the U.S. ambassador gave him a list of defendants that he would not be allowed to pursue and then refused to cooperate in an early investigation into the alleged misappropriation of U.S. aid in Ukraine.

Lutsenko provided me with a letter from the embassy, supporting part of his story by showing that a U.S. official did in fact ask him to stand down on the misappropriation-of-funds case. “We are gravely concerned about this investigation for which we see no basis,” an embassy official named George Kent wrote to the prosecutor’s office.

The State Department on Wednesday issued a statement declaring that it no longer financially supports Lutsenko’s office in its anti-corruption mission and considers his allegation about the do-not-prosecute list “an outright fabrication.”

My reporting, however, indicates Lutsenko isn’t the only person complaining about the U.S. Embassy in Kiev.

Last year, when he served as House Rules Committee chairman, Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Texas) wrote a private letter asking Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to recall the current U.S. ambassador, alleging that she made disparaging statements about President Trump.

The ambassador “has spoken privately and repeatedly about her disdain for the current administration in a way that might call for the expulsion” of America’s top diplomat in Ukraine, Sessions wrote.

Such dysfunction does not benefit either country, especially when Russia is lurking around the corner, hoping to regain its influence in the former Soviet republic. 

Investigating what's going on in the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, and whether elements in Ukraine tried to influence the 2016 U.S. election to help Clinton, are essential steps to rebooting a key relationship.

John Solomon is an award-winning investigative journalist whose work over the years has exposed U.S. and FBI intelligence failures before the Sept. 11 attacks, federal scientists’ misuse of foster children and veterans in drug experiments, and numerous cases of political corruption. He serves as an investigative columnist and executive vice president for video at The Hill.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2769 on: October 06, 2019, 05:21:03 pm »
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/440730-how-the-obama-white-house-engaged-ukraine-to-give-russia-collusion

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As Donald Trump began his meteoric rise to the presidency, the Obama White House summoned Ukrainian authorities to Washington to coordinate ongoing anti-corruption efforts inside Russia’s most critical neighbor.

The January 2016 gathering, confirmed by multiple participants and contemporaneous memos, brought some of Ukraine’s top corruption prosecutors and investigators face to face with members of former President Obama’s National Security Council (NSC), FBI, State Department and Department of Justice (DOJ).

The agenda suggested the purpose was training and coordination. But Ukrainian participants said it didn’t take long — during the meetings and afterward — to realize the Americans’ objectives included two politically hot investigations: one that touched Vice President Joe Biden’s family and one that involved a lobbying firm linked closely to then-candidate Trump.

U.S. officials “kept talking about how important it was that all of our anti-corruption efforts be united,” said Andrii Telizhenko, then a political officer in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington tasked with organizing the meeting.

Telizhenko, who no longer works for the Ukrainian Embassy, said U.S. officials volunteered during the meetings — one of which was held in the White House’s Old Executive Office Building — that they had an interest in reviving a closed investigation into payments to U.S. figures from Ukraine’s Russia-backed Party of Regions.

That 2014 investigation was led by the FBI and focused heavily on GOP lobbyist Paul Manafort, whose firm long had been tied to Trump through his partner and Trump pal, Roger Stone.

Agents interviewed Manafort in 2014 about whether he received undeclared payments from the party of ousted Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, an ally of Russia’s Vladimir Putin, and whether he engaged in improper foreign lobbying.

The FBI shut down the case without charging Manafort.

Telizhenko said he couldn’t remember whether Manafort was mentioned during the January 2016 meeting. But he and other attendees recalled DOJ officials asking investigators from Ukraine’s National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) if they could help locate new evidence about the Party of Regions’ payments and its dealings with Americans.

“It was definitely the case that led to the charges against Manafort and the leak to U.S. media during the 2016 election,” he said.

That makes the January 2016 meeting one of the earliest documented efforts to build the now-debunked Trump-Russia collusion narrative and one of the first to involve the Obama administration’s intervention.

Spokespeople for the NSC, DOJ and FBI declined to comment. A representative for former Obama national security adviser Susan Rice did not return emails seeking comment.

Nazar Kholodnytskyy, Ukraine’s chief anti-corruption prosecutor, told me he attended some but not all of the January 2016 Washington meetings and couldn’t remember the specific cases, if any, that were discussed.

But he said he soon saw evidence in Ukraine of political meddling in the U.S. election. Kholodnytskyy said the key evidence against Manafort — a ledger showing payments from the Party of Regions — was known to Ukrainian authorities since 2014 but was suddenly released in May 2016 by the U.S.-friendly NABU, after Manafort was named Trump’s campaign chairman: “Somebody kept this black ledger secret for two years and then showed it to the public and the U.S. media. It was extremely suspicious.”

Kholodnytskyy said he explicitly instructed NABU investigators who were working with American authorities not to share the ledger with the media. “Look, Manafort’s case is one of the cases that hurt me a lot,” he said.

“I ordered the detectives to give nothing to the mass media considering this case. Instead, they had broken my order and published themselves these one or two pages of this black ledger regarding Paul Manafort."

“For me it was the first call that something was going wrong and that there is some external influence in this case. And there is some other interests in this case not in the interest of the investigation and a fair trial,” he added.

Kostiantyn Kulyk, deputy head of the Ukraine prosecutor general’s international affairs office, said that, shortly after Ukrainian authorities returned from the Washington meeting, there was a clear message about helping the Americans with the Party of the Regions case.

“Yes, there was a lot of talking about needing help and then the ledger just appeared in public,” he recalled.

Kulyk said Ukrainian authorities had evidence that other Western figures, such as former Obama White House counsel Gregory Craig, also received money from Yanukovych’s party. But the Americans weren’t interested: “They just discussed Manafort. This was all and only what they wanted. Nobody else.”

Manafort joined Trump’s campaign on March 29, 2016, and then was promoted to campaign chairman on May 19, 2016. 

NABU leaked the existence of the ledgers on May 29, 2016. Later that summer, it told U.S. media the ledgers showed payments to Manafort, a revelation that forced him to resign from the campaign in August 2016.

A Ukrainian court in December concluded NABU’s release of the ledger was an illegal attempt to influence the U.S. election. And a member of Ukraine’s parliament has released a recording of a NABU official saying the agency released the ledger to help Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

The other case raised at the January 2016 meeting, Telizhenko said, involved Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company under investigation in Ukraine for improper foreign transfers of money. At the time, Burisma allegedly was paying then-Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter as both a board member and a consultant. More than $3 million flowed from Ukraine to an American firm tied to Hunter Biden in 2014-15, bank records show.

According to Telizhenko, U.S. officials told the Ukrainians they would prefer that Kiev drop the Burisma probe and allow the FBI to take it over. The Ukrainians did not agree. But then Joe Biden pressured Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to fire Ukraine’s chief prosecutor in March 2016, as I previously reported. The Burisma case was transferred to NABU, then shut down.

The Ukrainian Embassy in Washington on Thursday confirmed the Obama administration requested the meetings in January 2016, but embassy representatives attended only some of the sessions.

"Unfortunately, the Embassy of Ukraine in Washington, D.C., was not invited to join the DOJ and other law enforcement-sector meetings," it said. It said it had no record that the Party of Regions or Burisma cases came up in the meetings it did attend.

Ukraine is riddled with corruption, Russian meddling and intense political conflicts, so one must carefully consider any Ukrainian accounts.

But Telizhenko’s claim that the DOJ reopened its Manafort probe as the 2016 election ramped up is supported by the DOJ’s own documents, including communications involving Associate Attorney General Bruce Ohr, his wife, Nellie, and ex-British spy Christopher Steele.

Nellie Ohr and Steele worked in 2016 for the research firm, Fusion GPS, that was hired by Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) to find Russia dirt on Trump. Steele wrote the famous dossier for Fusion that the FBI used to gain a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign. Nellie Ohr admitted to Congress that she routed Russia dirt on Trump from Fusion to the DOJ through her husband during the election.

DOJ emails show Nellie Ohr on May 30, 2016, directly alerted her husband and two DOJ prosecutors specializing in international crimes to the discovery of the “black ledger” documents that led to Manafort’s prosecution.

“Reported Trove of documents on Ukrainian Party of Regions’ Black Cashbox,” Nellie Ohr wrote to her husband and federal prosecutors Lisa Holtyn and Joseph Wheatley, attaching a news article on the announcement of NABU’s release of the documents.

Bruce Ohr and Steele worked on their own effort to get dirt on Manafort from a Russian oligarch, Oleg Deripaska, who had a soured business relationship with him. Deripaska was “almost ready to talk” to U.S. government officials regarding the money that “Manafort stole,” Bruce Ohr wrote in notes from his conversations with Steele.

The efforts eventually led to a September 2016 meeting in which the FBI asked Deripaska if he could help prove Manafort was helping Trump collude with Russia. Deripaska laughed off the notion as preposterous.

Previously, Politico reported that the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington assisted Clinton’s campaign through a DNC contractor. The Ukrainian Embassy acknowledges it got requests for assistance from the DNC staffer to find dirt on Manafort but denies it provided any improper assistance.

Now we have more concrete evidence that the larger Ukrainian government also was being pressed by the Obama administration to help build the Russia collusion narrative. And that onion is only beginning to be peeled.

But what is already confirmed by Ukrainians looks a lot more like assertive collusion with a foreign power than anything detailed in the Mueller report.

John Solomon is an award-winning investigative journalist whose work over the years has exposed U.S. and FBI intelligence failures before the Sept. 11 attacks, federal scientists’ misuse of foster children and veterans in drug experiments, and numerous cases of political corruption. He serves as an investigative columnist and executive vice president for video at The Hill. Follow him on Twitter @jsolomonReports



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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2770 on: October 06, 2019, 07:10:16 pm »
Trumps phone call with the Ukrainian President was awesome.   
He has every right as commander in chief.
He could ride in on a tank into Los Angeles and enforce immigration, legally. 

Biden’s dealings in the Ukraine were very serious.  He was going to withhold funds unless they fired the guy investigating his son.   Biden admitted it on tv. 

Trump, the highest EXECUTIVE in the country, gets to decide what is important to investigate.   Biden’s case, a case involving a presidential candidate who admitted it,  is very very important. 
Go gators is such a partisan leftist, I just hope he comes out as a joke like copper ab. 
Jester, good to hear from you. Well, not really since all your post does is repeat lies.

What's very important is getting things done like infrastructure but dishonest don only tweets and plays golf and moscow mitch won't let any legislation get past just to make the Democrats look bad.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2771 on: October 06, 2019, 07:16:11 pm »
Funny stuff space thing.

Here's what the Guardian article actually said:
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Britain’s spy agencies played a crucial role in alerting their counterparts in Washington to contacts between members of Donald Trump’s campaign team and Russian intelligence operatives, the Guardian has been told.

GCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.

Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.

dishonest don was playing footsie with the russkis.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2772 on: October 06, 2019, 07:43:49 pm »
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The Guardian story is written in a style designed to flatter its sources (they are cast as high-minded whistleblowers), but the upshot of it is devastating for them, nonetheless, and explains why all the criminal leaks against Trump first originated in the British press. According to the story, Brennan got his anti-Trump tips primarily from British spies but also Estonian spies and others. The story confirms that the seed of the espionage into Trump was planted by Estonia. The BBC’s Paul Wood reported last year that the intelligence agency of an unnamed Baltic State had tipped Brennan off in April 2016 to a conversation purporting to show that the Kremlin was funneling cash into the Trump campaign.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2773 on: October 07, 2019, 11:10:26 am »
Dude, we've seen the text messages between the diplomats and Trump calling for China and the Ukraine to sabotage his 2020 rival on television. It's over.

If Trump wanted to combat corruption, he probably wouldn't have given government jobs to unqualified family members and encouraged lavish public and private spending, both foreign and domestic, at his hotels. No matter how many links from conspiracy websites you throw at us, that fact is clear to anyone with a functioning brain.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2774 on: October 07, 2019, 12:09:21 pm »
Dude, we've seen the text messages between the diplomats and Trump calling for China and the Ukraine to sabotage his 2020 rival on television. It's over.

If Trump wanted to combat corruption, he probably wouldn't have given government jobs to unqualified family members and encouraged lavish public and private spending, both foreign and domestic, at his hotels. No matter how many links from conspiracy websites you throw at us, that fact is clear to anyone with a functioning brain.

Dude....you people only recognize the cherry picked narratives that serve your world view(s).  But speaking of conspiracy theories, are you saying that the NYT, The Hill and Issues and Insights are conspiracy theory websites? 

Interesting....

Time will tell on this. 
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2775 on: October 07, 2019, 06:35:48 pm »
So do you think Trump's appointment of his children to government positions, his funneling of taxpayers' money to his businesses, his coziness with foreign lobbyists and his refusal to abide by tax transparency norms are all part of his anti-corruption agenda? Or by ignoring those things, are you cherry-picking a narrative that serves your worldview?


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2776 on: October 08, 2019, 02:59:38 am »
So do you think Trump's appointment of his children to government positions, his funneling of taxpayers' money to his businesses, his coziness with foreign lobbyists and his refusal to abide by tax transparency norms are all part of his anti-corruption agenda? Or by ignoring those things, are you cherry-picking a narrative that serves your worldview?
You left out his hush money payments to porn stars, The Trump University scam. Trump Tower Moscow, his  Russian Laundromat, the imprisonment of  his campaign manager, among others, on witness tampering, obstruction of justice, tax and bank fraud or the fact that as a result of the Mueller investigation Trump himself would have been indicted for obstruction of justice but for DOJ policy preventing it because he's a sitting president. 

 So yeah, Trump is clearly well credentialed as an anti corruption champion.   :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:




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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2777 on: October 08, 2019, 04:40:47 am »
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The Guardian story is written in a style designed to flatter its sources (they are cast as high-minded whistleblowers), but the upshot of it is devastating for them, nonetheless, and explains why all the criminal leaks against Trump first originated in the British press. According to the story, Brennan got his anti-Trump tips primarily from British spies but also Estonian spies and others. The story confirms that the seed of the espionage into Trump was planted by Estonia. The BBC’s Paul Wood reported last year that the intelligence agency of an unnamed Baltic State had tipped Brennan off in April 2016 to a conversation purporting to show that the Kremlin was funneling cash into the Trump campaign.
I knew I shouldn't have sold my stock in Alcoa.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2778 on: October 08, 2019, 06:48:56 am »
So do you think Trump's appointment of his children to government positions, his funneling of taxpayers' money to his businesses, his coziness with foreign lobbyists and his refusal to abide by tax transparency norms are all part of his anti-corruption agenda? Or by ignoring those things, are you cherry-picking a narrative that serves your worldview?

No complaints regarding other candidates doing corrupt things yet pointing the finger at others....Trump is no boy scout, for sure . Be that as it may, did it ever occur to you, the reason he is under so much incoming fire, is because the Swap REALLY is afraid of him exposing what they have been doing? 

Tomato/Tomahto


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2779 on: October 08, 2019, 07:02:20 am »
So do you think Trump's appointment of his children to government positions, his funneling of taxpayers' money to his businesses, his coziness with foreign lobbyists and his refusal to abide by tax transparency norms are all part of his anti-corruption agenda? Or by ignoring those things, are you cherry-picking a narrative that serves your worldview?

No complaints regarding other candidates doing corrupt things yet pointing the finger at others....Trump is no boy scout, for sure . Be that as it may, did it ever occur to you, the reason he is under so much incoming fire, is because the Swap REALLY is afraid of him exposing what they have been doing? 

Tomato/Tomahto

Hamburger/Hamberder

One is not the same as the other.

Trump promised to drain the swamp. He's kept the swamp and opened his own personal cesspool.