Quote from: Mr.DeMartino on September 13, 2018, 08:57:05 amQuote from: Adel on September 13, 2018, 04:58:47 amThis relentless obfuscation and dishonestly are quintessential features of the Trump cult and its followers. That, and of course, unmitigated stupidity from likes of Jimbo and his ilk. 97 Reactions. 15 Comments. 29 Shares. That's not viral. That isn't even a sneeze.Who is obfuscating by screaming RUSSIA!!!!! Does that mention 'Views'? How often do people look at something on the internet and do nothing? It just has to be in your eyesight. It's psychological, you only have to look once as it's there, that's why you have advertising at the side of your screen. It does something. What about you, do you do something? Actually, you're probably more of a special case because you have to do something every time, until the other person, A: gives up B: Dies or C: Gives up and dies.
Quote from: Adel on September 13, 2018, 04:58:47 amThis relentless obfuscation and dishonestly are quintessential features of the Trump cult and its followers. That, and of course, unmitigated stupidity from likes of Jimbo and his ilk. 97 Reactions. 15 Comments. 29 Shares. That's not viral. That isn't even a sneeze.Who is obfuscating by screaming RUSSIA!!!!!
This relentless obfuscation and dishonestly are quintessential features of the Trump cult and its followers. That, and of course, unmitigated stupidity from likes of Jimbo and his ilk.
QuoteYou honestly think people changed their votes because of Russian facebook ads and the Podesta emails? Now, why would the Russians focus their attention on Facebook and not a simple leaflet through the door campaign?QuoteLooking at the population as a whole, Facebook by far still leads every other social media site as a source of news. This is largely due to Facebook’s large user base, compared with other platforms, and the fact that most of its users get news on the site. Specifically, about two-thirds of Americans (66%) use Facebook, and a majority of those users get news on the site, similar to 2016. Looked at as a portion of all U.S. adults, this translates into just under half (45%) of Americans getting news on Facebook.Even though YouTube has a large user base – 58% of the population – a smaller portion gets news there. In 2017, both the user base and the share getting news on YouTube grew. The result: 18% of all Americans now get news on YouTube, making it the second most common social media site for news – albeit still far behind Facebook
You honestly think people changed their votes because of Russian facebook ads and the Podesta emails?
Looking at the population as a whole, Facebook by far still leads every other social media site as a source of news. This is largely due to Facebook’s large user base, compared with other platforms, and the fact that most of its users get news on the site. Specifically, about two-thirds of Americans (66%) use Facebook, and a majority of those users get news on the site, similar to 2016. Looked at as a portion of all U.S. adults, this translates into just under half (45%) of Americans getting news on Facebook.Even though YouTube has a large user base – 58% of the population – a smaller portion gets news there. In 2017, both the user base and the share getting news on YouTube grew. The result: 18% of all Americans now get news on YouTube, making it the second most common social media site for news – albeit still far behind Facebook
I have no idea if the 3000 deaths claim is accurate or not, though I'm giving it a far higher probability of it being accurate (or accurate enough- say only 2,000 dead or even 4,000 dead. Obviously it's an estimate) then Trump thinking there's only a dozen or too dead.That being said we have to consider some things-1. The extent to which the previous two hurricanes affected the ability of disaster efforts to reach Puerto Rice2. The extent to which Puerto Rio being and island affected the ability of resources to reach it3. The infrastructure and skill of the government of Puerto Rico4. Whether the same death calculation, which seems to include indirect deaths, has been used with other hurricanes.5.The extent to which things could have been done differently.6. The extent to which Trump affected thingsAbsent hard data regarding those things, 'Blame Trump' is premature, though 'Blame Republicans' and their budget cutting could be a quicker call. That being said, Puerto Rico should have some level of preparation for this and if they didn't prepare adequately....
Quote from: Dave Stepz on September 12, 2018, 09:47:20 amQuoteYou honestly think people changed their votes because of Russian facebook ads and the Podesta emails? Now, why would the Russians focus their attention on Facebook and not a simple leaflet through the door campaign?QuoteLooking at the population as a whole, Facebook by far still leads every other social media site as a source of news. This is largely due to Facebook’s large user base, compared with other platforms, and the fact that most of its users get news on the site. Specifically, about two-thirds of Americans (66%) use Facebook, and a majority of those users get news on the site, similar to 2016. Looked at as a portion of all U.S. adults, this translates into just under half (45%) of Americans getting news on Facebook.Even though YouTube has a large user base – 58% of the population – a smaller portion gets news there. In 2017, both the user base and the share getting news on YouTube grew. The result: 18% of all Americans now get news on YouTube, making it the second most common social media site for news – albeit still far behind FacebookThis is just social media. Most adults get their news through television. Most news is left leaning, by far. So a hundred grand on ads is not going to overturn what they hear on network news channels. If you accept that the Media, Hollywood and academia are democrats, then how can they lose any elections.
You don’t see the irony here?
Quote from: Chester Jim on September 14, 2018, 10:25:01 amYou don’t see the irony here?You mean that "brave man" Paul Manafort has flipped?
Quote from: gogators! on September 15, 2018, 05:39:33 amQuote from: Chester Jim on September 14, 2018, 10:25:01 amYou don’t see the irony here?You mean that "brave man" Paul Manafort has flipped?On behalf of the Trump cult peanut gallery I would like to get in first and say that Trump's 20 year associate presidential campaign manager and agent of foreign government pleading guilty to conspiracy, witness tampering, fraud and money laundering has nothing to do with Trump, because as you know, the truth isn't truth! And anyway why isn't anyone talking about Hillary and Obama? Over to you Martini and Jimbo.
Expect Manafort will be able to assist with corroborating evidence in the quid pro quo for Russian election assistance at that Trump Tower meeting given that he was working unpaid for Trump during the campaign but was instead on the payroll for the Ukraine. Speculate that Trump Jr would be the next big name indictment.All this assumes you're capable of ignoring the obfuscation and can connect the dots though. Far too much to ask of a cult follower and avid Fox news viewer of course.
Quote from: Adel on September 15, 2018, 07:52:43 pmExpect Manafort will be able to assist with corroborating evidence in the quid pro quo for Russian election assistance at that Trump Tower meeting given that he was working unpaid for Trump during the campaign but was instead on the payroll for the Ukraine. Speculate that Trump Jr would be the next big name indictment.All this assumes you're capable of ignoring the obfuscation and can connect the dots though. Far too much to ask of a cult follower and avid Fox news viewer of course.If it’s jaywalking, then you’ll act like it’s murder. Not rape because you were ok with bill Clinton raping. I’ll speculaate it’s a huge nothing, and that you all wasted the country’s time for a long time.
Who has been charged with crimes George PapadopoulosFormer campaign adviserLying to the F.B.I. about conversations with people he believed were working on behalf of Russians (pleaded guilty Oct. 5, 2017) Sentenced to 14 days in prisonSept. 7, 2018Sam Patten Lobbyist linked to Paul ManafortFailing to register to work as an agent of a foreign power Pleaded guiltyAug. 31, 2018Paul Manafort Former campaign chairmanTax and bank fraud, false statements, being an unregistered agent of a foreign principal, obstruction of justice Convicted of financial fraudAug. 21, 2018Michael D. Cohen Mr. Trump’s former lawyerTax evasion, bank fraud, campaign finance violations Pleaded guiltyAug. 21, 2018Alex van der Zwaan Lawyer who worked with Mr. Manafort and Mr. GatesLying to investigators about conversations with Mr. Gates (pleaded guilty Feb. 20, 2018) Sentenced to 30 days in prisonApril 3, 2018Rick Gates Former campaign adviserFinancial fraud and lying to the F.B.I. Pleaded guiltyFeb. 23, 2018Richard PinedoCalifornia man who sold bank accounts onlineIdentity fraud Pleaded guiltyFeb. 12, 2018Michael T. Flynn Former national security adviserLying to the F.B.I. about conversations with the Russian ambassador Pleaded guiltyDec. 1, 2017Thirteen Russian nationals and three related companiesConspiracy to defraud the U.S., conspiracy to commit bank fraud, identity theft Konstantin V. Kilimnik Russian Army-trained linguist and associate of Mr. ManafortObstruction of justice Twelve Russian intelligence officers Conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, identity theft, conspiracy to launder money
Quote from: Adel on September 15, 2018, 07:52:43 pmExpect Manafort will be able to assist with corroborating evidence in the quid pro quo for Russian election assistance at that Trump Tower meeting given that he was working unpaid for Trump during the campaign but was instead on the payroll for the Ukraine. Speculate that Trump Jr would be the next big name indictment.All this assumes you're capable of ignoring the obfuscation and can connect the dots though. Far too much to ask of a cult follower and avid Fox news viewer of course.If it’s jaywalking, then you’ll act like it’s murder. Not rape because you were ok with bill Clinton raping. I’ll speculaate it’s a huge nothing, and that you all wasted the country’s time for a long time. Get with the program or lose globalist leftist S*& tards. Jobs, middle class, a wall, no illegal immigration, less government waste, no useless wars and fair trade. It’s all highly desirable, so I can’t fathom how anyone can be against it.
Quote from: Chester Jim on September 15, 2018, 09:51:41 pmQuote from: Adel on September 15, 2018, 07:52:43 pmExpect Manafort will be able to assist with corroborating evidence in the quid pro quo for Russian election assistance at that Trump Tower meeting given that he was working unpaid for Trump during the campaign but was instead on the payroll for the Ukraine. Speculate that Trump Jr would be the next big name indictment.All this assumes you're capable of ignoring the obfuscation and can connect the dots though. Far too much to ask of a cult follower and avid Fox news viewer of course.If it’s jaywalking, then you’ll act like it’s murder. Not rape because you were ok with bill Clinton raping. I’ll speculaate it’s a huge nothing, and that you all wasted the country’s time for a long time. Get with the program or lose globalist leftist S*& tards. Jobs, middle class, a wall, no illegal immigration, less government waste, no useless wars and fair trade. It’s all highly desirable, so I can’t fathom how anyone can be against it. And yet the repugs are doing all they can to eviscerate the middle class and to make every job a low paying one. Carping connies like yourself are the ones standing in the way of legislation that would solve illegal immigration. No useless wars---who invaded Iraq? Why are we still in Afghanistan, burning through millions of dollars each and every day? Government waste? You mean like ICE?Where's the infrastructure?
Quote from: gogators! on September 16, 2018, 09:28:35 amQuote from: Chester Jim on September 15, 2018, 09:51:41 pmQuote from: Adel on September 15, 2018, 07:52:43 pmExpect Manafort will be able to assist with corroborating evidence in the quid pro quo for Russian election assistance at that Trump Tower meeting given that he was working unpaid for Trump during the campaign but was instead on the payroll for the Ukraine. Speculate that Trump Jr would be the next big name indictment.All this assumes you're capable of ignoring the obfuscation and can connect the dots though. Far too much to ask of a cult follower and avid Fox news viewer of course.If it’s jaywalking, then you’ll act like it’s murder. Not rape because you were ok with bill Clinton raping. I’ll speculaate it’s a huge nothing, and that you all wasted the country’s time for a long time. Get with the program or lose globalist leftist S*& tards. Jobs, middle class, a wall, no illegal immigration, less government waste, no useless wars and fair trade. It’s all highly desirable, so I can’t fathom how anyone can be against it. And yet the repugs are doing all they can to eviscerate the middle class and to make every job a low paying one. Carping connies like yourself are the ones standing in the way of legislation that would solve illegal immigration. No useless wars---who invaded Iraq? Why are we still in Afghanistan, burning through millions of dollars each and every day? Government waste? You mean like ICE?Where's the infrastructure?If you are going to go back to Iraq, which was a just war, problem was solved until Obama created isis, then i could go back to opposition to civil rights, Jim Crow, slavery. There was no southern strategy. That has been debunked. Just a bunch of racist democrats seeking to get votes by giving away free stuff. ICE is great. The problem is that there’s no cooperation at the local level. Then immigrants pour into the rest of the country. If someone is deported from the US for being there illegally, then who cares. If I extend my stay in Korea for two years or even 6 , working illegally, and they catch and deport me, then who is going to cry about me ? Even I’ll just say well it was nice while it lasted, time to go home.
Don't forget Benghazi Jimbo!
Quote from: Adel on September 16, 2018, 03:47:12 pm this Russian collusion business.
this Russian collusion business.