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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2040 on: August 20, 2018, 10:51:43 am »
Get with your program dude!
Your cult leader supports Torture, what he can't tolerate is criticism.
Listen to what he said during the campaign and who he appointed as the current head of the CIA.
These distractions of yours are so tiresome.
You're not suggesting Gina Haspel should have her security clearance revoked are you? :laugh:
Trump doesn't pretend to be a saint, and he never mislead the American public about his stance on torture or his policies. I don't agree with him, but he still comes out ahead of Brennan, who would lie about it.

Clapper critiques Brennan:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/08/19/james_clapper_john_brennans_rhetoric_an_issue_in_and_of_itself_now_subtle_like_a_freight_train.html

Brennan can't make up his mind:
https://nypost.com/2018/08/19/brennan-doubles-down-on-trump-treason-comment/

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/video/news/brennan-walks-back-comment-on-trump-treason/vi-BBM8aB6

Get with your program dude!
Your cult leader

Dude, I freely admit that Trump is a lying sack of shit who can't be trusted. My point isn't that Trump is good, it's that the anti-Trumpers have lost their mind and formed their own cult and are suffering from the mass hysteria of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Trump could cure cancer on 5th Ave. and his critics would howl that he's putting doctors out of business.
"Clapper critiques" LOL. He agrees with Brennan.

He's a liar but that's OK because you don't like the people who are rightfully criticizing him and you will continue to lie about their positions because you, like trump, lie.

Thanks for straightening that out.



Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2041 on: August 20, 2018, 10:59:44 am »
So no to serving your country and yes to being a hypocrite for criticizing Brennan for carrying out a policy you supported.
I'm criticizing Brennan for claiming he's a virtuous character because he lied about torture to the people AND had the CIA hack the computers of congressional staffers.

Trump and Brennan BOTH support torture, but only one has lied about it to the people and hacked congressional staffers computers.

No dude, he could claim that he cured cancer, (even though he's incapable of pouring a cup of instant coffee) but followers such as yourself would be defending the fools lining up for a prescription of snake oil! ;D
If Trump claimed he cured cancer, I'd say he's full of shit.

Is your brain incapable of understanding the distinction between being a MAGA die-hard vs. anti-Trump Derangement Syndrome?


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2042 on: August 20, 2018, 11:20:48 am »
So no to serving your country and yes to being a hypocrite for criticizing Brennan for carrying out a policy you supported.
I'm criticizing Brennan for claiming he's a virtuous character because he lied about torture to the people AND had the CIA hack the computers of congressional staffers.

Trump and Brennan BOTH support torture, but only one has lied about it to the people and hacked congressional staffers computers.

No dude, he could claim that he cured cancer, (even though he's incapable of pouring a cup of instant coffee) but followers such as yourself would be defending the fools lining up for a prescription of snake oil! ;D
If Trump claimed he cured cancer, I'd say he's full of shit.

Is your brain incapable of understanding the distinction between being a MAGA die-hard vs. anti-Trump Derangement Syndrome?

While you may like to think of yourself as an 'anti-Trump Derangement Syndromer', your defense of Trump is so feeble it leads others to suspect you've consumed a fair dosage of his snake oil for yourself and suffer your own unique type of derangement.  ;D


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2043 on: August 22, 2018, 04:44:06 am »
Time to spill the beans!

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Michael Cohen, the former longtime fixer and personal attorney for Donald Trump, agreed Tuesday to a tentative deal with federal prosecutors in New York that requires him to plead guilty to several felony charges of bank fraud, tax evasion and violations of campaign finance law, according to sources with knowledge of the deal.

drumpf will have a hard time tweeting himself out of this.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2044 on: August 22, 2018, 08:07:37 am »
Time to spill the beans!

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Michael Cohen, the former longtime fixer and personal attorney for Donald Trump, agreed Tuesday to a tentative deal with federal prosecutors in New York that requires him to plead guilty to several felony charges of bank fraud, tax evasion and violations of campaign finance law, according to sources with knowledge of the deal.

drumpf will have a hard time tweeting himself out of this.

I'm expecting his West Virginia cult gathering today to be his best yet!!!

The walls are closing in and it's not the big Mexican one.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2045 on: August 22, 2018, 11:30:26 am »
According to Cohen's lawyer, there's more to come and it involves, guess who, the russkis.


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2046 on: August 22, 2018, 01:09:04 pm »
Time to spill the beans!

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Michael Cohen, the former longtime fixer and personal attorney for Donald Trump, agreed Tuesday to a tentative deal with federal prosecutors in New York that requires him to plead guilty to several felony charges of bank fraud, tax evasion and violations of campaign finance law, according to sources with knowledge of the deal.

drumpf will have a hard time tweeting himself out of this.

I'm expecting his West Virginia cult gathering today to be his best yet!!!

I had the rally on in the background for about 20 minutes today and couldn't believe how boring it was. Not only has the audience most likely heard this guff a thousand times already, but its lack of structure and stream-of-consciousness style (not mention the repetition) is sort of like listening to a middle-school jazz band trying to play Ornette Coleman.

"Blah blah China... I respect China... Blah blah my mom's turkey - eight hours! Eight hours... Blah blah The EU... I respect them. Lovely people. Everyone's ripping us off. Blah blah Witch Hunt! Lock her up! Blah blah my mom's turkey..."
« Last Edit: August 22, 2018, 02:46:33 pm by Andyman »


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2047 on: August 23, 2018, 10:13:43 am »
Mr. Tough on Crime publicly defending a criminal, whose guilt isn't even being questioned.

It's been interesting to see the defenses from the party of Personal Responsibility and Traditional American Values. So far they seem to consist of:

1) Nothing Trump did fits into a very narrow technical definition of a crime, so what's the problem?
2) Unlike Trump, Michael Cohen is a liar
3) Deep State conspiracy
4) Obama
5) Q warned us about this, and it's all part of the plan

Which one will Waygook's Trumpeters choose?

My prediction for future defenses:

6) Hillary
7) Media bias
8. It's okay to look the other way if we get the wall / anti-abortion judges

« Last Edit: August 23, 2018, 10:19:50 am by Andyman »


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2048 on: August 23, 2018, 02:08:37 pm »
Well, this might indeed by the beginning of the end (or at least the end of the beginning). Trump is in a pickle with the Stormy Daniels stuff.

That being said, I don't think that this alone is enough to get him removed from office. Paying hush money to a porn star, from a campaign that was largely self-funded and represents a pittance to Trump, I don't think will suffice in the mind's of the average American as sufficient cause to remove a President.

This needs to be connected to money laundering or tax evasion or Russia. If not, I don't think it gets Trump out of office. That's before we get to the strength of Cohen's claim and the details of whether it was a crime, the evidence supporting it, and any legal hurdles (such as privilege and criminal intent considering he was acting under the advice of counsel).

But I will agree with you guys on this- Trump is in trouble and Republicans carrying on about some white girl getting murdered is a sign of a party in disarray.


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2049 on: August 23, 2018, 02:23:08 pm »
I think that's a fair assessment. He's definitely not going to be panhandling in the Bowery next week, but this opens the door for further scrutiny of Trump family affairs, and I don't think it's going to turn out well for the clan.


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2050 on: August 23, 2018, 06:48:13 pm »
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In a sane world, Congress would immediately hold bipartisan hearings to explore the contours of the presidentís conduct. They would prioritize this push for accountability and transparency over the dubious nomination of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, because in a functioning democracy, it would be more important to first determine whether the president is a crook before giving him the opportunity to make another lifetime appointment to the nationís highest court. The nation would be riveted, Watergate-like, by public congressional hearings into Trumpís alleged crimes.

But that is not the way this is going to unfold. Not with this crowd. What is far more likely is that McConnell and company will continue to cower and abdicate their constitutional functions and that the presidentís tribunes in the media will continue to delude themselves that this is a mirage or some sort of sinister plot (which now encompasses 12 jurors in Virginia). Kavanaugh will be confirmed by the Senate and then likely deliver a crucial vote protecting Trump from Mueller if thereís a fight over a subpoena or a deposition or even an indictment. It is far more likely that Trump will pardon Manafort as soon as he thinks he can get away with it. And he might try to pardon Cohen, too, if Cohen changes his mind and decides heís willing to accept one.

Maybe it will take those final actions, that level of obstruction of justice, to rouse Republicans from their disastrous inaction. Maybe it will take an indictment of the president by some brave soul at the Justice Department or by Mueller, himself. Or maybe not. The continuing defense of Trump by Republicans in the House and Senate has become increasingly untethered from law or fact, and in that sense, it mirrors the delusions from which Trump suffers. Itís no way to run a legislature, much less a country, but here we are, in the dog days of August, led by a man who, if he werenít sworn into high office would be fighting in court to remain free on bail.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-cohen-manafort-714430/


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2051 on: August 24, 2018, 07:25:15 am »
In a sane world, Mueller would be limited to Russia stuff only and since he hasn't found anything related to Trump, his probe should be over. In a sane world, TDS wouldn't exist and people like Clapper and Brennan would be in jail for past perjury and human rights violations. In a sane world, the progressive-affiliated party of America wouldn't have nominated a war-mongering corporatist and instead nominated someone who backed labor and peace.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2052 on: August 24, 2018, 09:28:00 am »
He's NOT going to be impeached. Get over it, and move on to something that is actually relevant to your daily life.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2053 on: August 24, 2018, 10:46:45 am »
In a sane world, Mueller would be limited to Russia stuff only and since he hasn't found anything related to Trump, his probe should be over. In a sane world, TDS wouldn't exist and people like Clapper and Brennan would be in jail for past perjury and human rights violations. In a sane world, the progressive-affiliated party of America wouldn't have nominated a war-mongering corporatist and instead nominated someone who backed labor and peace.

Follow the money, follow the money. Trump's past business' has been funded by laundered Russian money.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2054 on: August 24, 2018, 11:04:25 pm »
In a sane world, Mueller would be limited to Russia stuff only and since he hasn't found anything related to Trump, his probe should be over. In a sane world, TDS wouldn't exist and people like Clapper and Brennan would be in jail for past perjury and human rights violations. In a sane world, the progressive-affiliated party of America wouldn't have nominated a war-mongering corporatist and instead nominated someone who backed labor and peace.
You don't know what Mueller has and hasn't found. Your rudy imitation is a poor facsimile.

drumpf backs "labor and peace" in word only. Look at what's happening at that Carrier plant he made such a big deal of. We're still in Afghanistan and loss of places in Africa. Tax cuts for the rich and anti-union rhetoric is not the mark of someone who supports labor.

In a sane world, bozo bone spurs would never have been elected. But the racists he continues to court with misinformed tweets about South Africa and the like put him there.

Human rights violations? Put George Bush in jail for starting an unprovoked war. The buck stops with the president right?

Funny, according to your man and the right, all our foreign problems were caused by Obama's weakness. Yet Clinton is too strong. Is that how you ended up supporting a coward, liar and racist?


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2055 on: August 24, 2018, 11:06:21 pm »
He's NOT going to be impeached. Get over it, and move on to something that is actually relevant to your daily life.
Keep telling yourself that. Whether he's impeached or not, whether he goes to jail or not, he's finished.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2056 on: August 25, 2018, 12:23:09 am »
MAGA--My Attorney Got Arrested


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2057 on: August 25, 2018, 04:44:03 am »
He's NOT going to be impeached. Get over it, and move on to something that is actually relevant to your daily life.



While Trump agrees with torture as was stated throughout his campaign, he argues that cooperation with federal investigators, ie. "flipping", should be illegal!  :huh:

« Last Edit: August 25, 2018, 04:46:33 am by Adel »


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2058 on: August 25, 2018, 02:13:53 pm »
He's NOT going to be impeached. Get over it, and move on to something that is actually relevant to your daily life.
Keep telling yourself that. Whether he's impeached or not, whether he goes to jail or not, he's finished.

Glad you support what amounts to a one-sided witch hunt and a politicized Department of Justice filled with double standards that lets establishment politicians of both parties off the hook and a complicit media. This is a soft coup attempt.

The powers that be aren't terrified that Trump will destroy the country. They're terrified he'll succeed.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2059 on: August 25, 2018, 02:33:15 pm »
He's NOT going to be impeached. Get over it, and move on to something that is actually relevant to your daily life.
Keep telling yourself that. Whether he's impeached or not, whether he goes to jail or not, he's finished.

Glad you support what amounts to a one-sided witch hunt and a politicized Department of Justice filled with double standards that lets establishment politicians of both parties off the hook and a complicit media. This is a soft coup attempt.

The powers that be aren't terrified that Trump will destroy the country. They're terrified he'll succeed.

Deep State ALERT! Deep State ALERT!