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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1940 on: June 24, 2018, 10:37:35 pm »
So, trumpists, which is it?

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President Donald Trump declared Friday that North Korea still poses an "extraordinary threat" to the United States.

In an executive order, the president extended for one year the so-called "national emergency" with respect to the nuclear-armed nation, re-authorizing economic restrictions against it.

While expected, the declaration comes just nine days after Trump tweeted, "There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea," following his summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Singapore.

The order appears to undermine the president's claim.

So if two people are pointing guns at each other and shouting , thatís a little different than shaking hands and talking, right ? 
Another stupid attempt at demogoguing
Hopefully people continue to remember how dishonest dems are
Now you're for gun control? I guess you're starting to see the (blue) light.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1941 on: June 25, 2018, 08:49:30 am »
   
Trump is moving on this because heís  decent .

 :laugh: Comedy sentence of the year.  Well done.  :laugh:
Itís true. 
This went on under obama without a peep.
Dems donít care about anything but winning. They are more likely to follow a rational calculation than trump or most republicans . 
Look at Hillary Clinton and how she waived human rights violating dictators if they donated to the Clinton foundation . 
Bonzai!


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1942 on: June 25, 2018, 08:56:02 am »
I despise the man and thinks he the worst president ever (and it takes a lot to top Nixon and Reagan) BUT I can think of 2 words worse than President Trump...



...President Pence, he knows the system and would far more successful in getting the radical right agenda through and he could win in 2020

turn Congress D in 2018 ( we really need the Senate D to stop these judges than a D House) then get rid of Trump in 2020


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1943 on: June 25, 2018, 10:12:04 am »

http://time.com/5317117/what-happens-children-separated-family-border/

Of course Fox tries to call it fake news.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFT9Y8nu9wA

You fell for fake news!

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/22/622611182/crying-toddler-on-widely-shared-time-cover-was-not-separated-from-mother

Combine that with the photos from the Obama years of detention centers and the fake "boy in a cage" photo, and it's clear that this story has been tainted.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1944 on: June 25, 2018, 10:23:39 am »

http://time.com/5317117/what-happens-children-separated-family-border/

Of course Fox tries to call it fake news.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFT9Y8nu9wA

You fell for fake news!

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/22/622611182/crying-toddler-on-widely-shared-time-cover-was-not-separated-from-mother

Combine that with the photos from the Obama years of detention centers and the fake "boy in a cage" photo, and it's clear that this story has been tainted.

The image itself is still powerful and represents the image shared by many people about the Trump administration and their policy on immigration.


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1945 on: June 25, 2018, 10:46:55 am »

The image itself is still powerful and represents the image shared by many people about the Trump administration and their policy on immigration.

I agree.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1946 on: June 25, 2018, 10:56:48 am »

http://time.com/5317117/what-happens-children-separated-family-border/

Of course Fox tries to call it fake news.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFT9Y8nu9wA

You fell for fake news!

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/22/622611182/crying-toddler-on-widely-shared-time-cover-was-not-separated-from-mother

Combine that with the photos from the Obama years of detention centers and the fake "boy in a cage" photo, and it's clear that this story has been tainted.

 :laugh:  Surely you're not trying to claim that as many as 2300 children were not separated from their parents and taken into the custody of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) are you? :laugh:

You did view that clip from Fox didn't you? It was part of my original post

But hey I'll give you another tip dude. Can you see that picture on my avatar. That isn't really of me either.  :laugh:
« Last Edit: June 25, 2018, 10:59:25 am by Adel »


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1947 on: June 25, 2018, 12:13:36 pm »
:laugh:  Surely you're not trying to claim that as many as 2300 children were not separated from their parents and taken into the custody of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) are you? :laugh:

Was that under Obama or Trump? Because former Obama DHS head Jeh Johnson just admitted it sometimes happened under Obama as well.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/mass-incarceration/unnecessary-incarceration/president-obama-wants-continue-imprisoning

Maybe because in some of those cases there were legitimate concerns about human trafficking or something suspicious?


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1948 on: June 25, 2018, 09:58:44 pm »
:laugh:  Surely you're not trying to claim that as many as 2300 children were not separated from their parents and taken into the custody of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) are you? :laugh:

Was that under Obama or Trump? Because former Obama DHS head Jeh Johnson just admitted it sometimes happened under Obama as well.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/mass-incarceration/unnecessary-incarceration/president-obama-wants-continue-imprisoning

Maybe because in some of those cases there were legitimate concerns about human trafficking or something suspicious?
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Former President Barack Obama didn't separate 90,000 migrant families

FILE - In this Wednesday, June 25, 2014, file photo, President Barack Obama speaks at the League of Conservation Voters Capitol Dinner at the Ronald Reagan Building in Washington. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin, File)

Friday, June 22, 2018 11:38AM
WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama did not oversee the separation of 90,000 migrant children and their parents at the U.S. border, contrary to a misleading online report and claims circulating on social media.

The claim, published on a conservative website, was repeated on social media throughout the week as President Donald Trump faced criticism over his administration's "zero tolerance" immigration policy, which has left more than 2,300 children separated from their parents at the U.S. border since May.

RELATED: Trump's conflicting rhetoric on border separations muddles immigration debate

The false claim appears to stem from a January 2016 Senate subcommittee report that investigated how the Department of Health and Human Services, under the Obama administration, placed thousands of unaccompanied children illegally entering the country.

The subcommittee report found that from October 2013 through 2015 the federal agency placed nearly 90,000 children with a sponsor, after they were detained at the border without a legal guardian. The majority of those sponsors, the report found, were a parent or legal guardian living in the country. No specific numbers were provided in the report. HHS did not respond to the AP's request for that information.

RELATED: Obama targets Trump for pulling US from Iran deal

Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said Monday separating families is not new, but acknowledged that the Obama administration and that of President George W. Bush did so at a lesser rate. Past administrations, Nielsen said, separated families at the border when federal agents suspected the adult of human trafficking, smuggling, posing a national security risk or when the adult's relationship to the child could not be verified. Nielsen acknowledged the Trump administration implemented a new policy of separating children and re-classifying them as "unaccompanied" when federal agents refer the parents for criminal prosecution.

Gil Kerlikowske, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection commissioner from early 2014 to the end of Obama's term, said parents were split from their children if they were arrested on drug charges, for example, or had an outstanding warrant.

It's clear that trump is not only about stopping asylum seekers but is completely anti-immigration period stop. Unless the immigrant's skin is white, of course.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1949 on: June 26, 2018, 04:38:30 am »
No room at the inn for US workers:

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resident Donald Trump's businesses donít seem too concerned about ďAmerica First."

A Vox analysis of hiring records for seasonal workers at three Trump properties in New York and Florida revealed that only one out of 144 jobs went to a US worker from 2016 to the end of 2017. Foreign guest workers with H-2B visas got the rest.


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1950 on: June 26, 2018, 09:48:30 am »

It's clear that trump is not only about stopping asylum seekers but is completely anti-immigration period stop. Unless the immigrant's skin is white, of course.

Your article would be great if I had claimed that 90,000 families were separated.

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The Red Hen Restaurant should focus more on cleaning its filthy canopies, doors and windows (badly needs a paint job) rather than refusing to serve a fine person like Sarah Huckabee Sanders. I always had a rule, if a person is dirty on the outside, they are dirty on the inside!

Fixed Trump's tweet.  Again Trump wading into something he shouldn't, a bit like Huckabee-Sanders using her official White House twitter to lay into the restaurant. 

But her Yelps!


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1951 on: June 27, 2018, 12:03:53 am »

It's clear that trump is not only about stopping asylum seekers but is completely anti-immigration period stop. Unless the immigrant's skin is white, of course.

Your article would be great if I had claimed that 90,000 families were separated.

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The Red Hen Restaurant should focus more on cleaning its filthy canopies, doors and windows (badly needs a paint job) rather than refusing to serve a fine person like Sarah Huckabee Sanders. I always had a rule, if a person is dirty on the outside, they are dirty on the inside!

Fixed Trump's tweet.  Again Trump wading into something he shouldn't, a bit like Huckabee-Sanders using her official White House twitter to lay into the restaurant. 

But her Yelps!
You might, for once, try reading the whole thing.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1952 on: June 27, 2018, 07:56:57 am »

So basically, Trump is trying to take down Harley Davidson a 115-year American firm, while saving a Chinese espionage/telecom firm?

As long as Chump keeps ramping up and deflecting with his Demagoguery this doesn't matter to Trump supporters. These facts will not be digested. Chump creates his own reality for his cult members.

 


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1953 on: June 27, 2018, 10:18:38 am »
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A Harley-Davidson should never be built in another country-never! Their employees and customers are already very angry at them. If they move, watch, it will be the beginning of the end - they surrendered, they quit! The Aura will be gone and they will be taxed like never before!

Trump is thinking of hitting Harley with a tax that doesn't exist?

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Early this year Harley-Davidson said they would move much of their plant operations in Kansas City to Thailand. That was long before Tariffs were announced. Hence, they were just using Tariffs/Trade War as an excuse. Shows how unbalanced & unfair trade is, but we will fix it.....

No, they were going to move some plant operations to Thailand -pre-trade war.  His understanding of macro-economics is terrible.  You just gave Harley more incentive to do it, dickhead. 

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....We are getting other countries to reduce and eliminate tariffs and trade barriers that have been unfairly used for years against our farmers, workers and companies. We are opening up closed markets and expanding our footprint. They must play fair or they will pay tariffs!

You're not expanding your footprint, you're pissing off long time allies, in some ridiculous idea you're going to win an unwinnable trade war.

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....We are finishing our study of Tariffs on cars from the E.U. in that they have long taken advantage of the U.S. in the form of Trade Barriers and Tariffs. In the end it will all even out - and it wonít take very long!

So basically, Trump is trying to take down Harley Davidson a 115-year American firm, while saving a Chinese espionage/telecom firm?
Funny thing is, HD already had plants in Brazil and India and were planning to put one in Thailand when trump started using them in his campaign--he used them as an example of a "great American company" several times.

The guy never knows what he's talking about and now that he's been caught with his pants down, he wants to spank the other guy.


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1954 on: June 29, 2018, 09:22:21 am »
Multiple shooting in Annapolis, in a media news outlet.

Not surprised by US shootings anymore.

What motives given by the shooter will be eye-opening, given Trump's repeated attacks on the media. 

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Prior to departing Wisconsin, I was briefed on the shooting at Capital Gazette in Annapolis, Maryland. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families. Thank you to all of the First Responders who are currently on the scene.

 :rolleyes:

Turns out it has nothing to do with Trump.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1955 on: June 29, 2018, 09:45:32 am »
Multiple shooting in Annapolis, in a media news outlet.

Not surprised by US shootings anymore.

What motives given by the shooter will be eye-opening, given Trump's repeated attacks on the media. 

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Prior to departing Wisconsin, I was briefed on the shooting at Capital Gazette in Annapolis, Maryland. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families. Thank you to all of the First Responders who are currently on the scene.

 :rolleyes:

Turns out it has nothing to do with Trump.
Cite?


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1956 on: June 29, 2018, 09:58:42 am »
Multiple shooting in Annapolis, in a media news outlet.

Not surprised by US shootings anymore.

What motives given by the shooter will be eye-opening, given Trump's repeated attacks on the media. 

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Prior to departing Wisconsin, I was briefed on the shooting at Capital Gazette in Annapolis, Maryland. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families. Thank you to all of the First Responders who are currently on the scene.

 :rolleyes:

Turns out it has nothing to do with Trump.
Cite?

Shooter had an ongoing dispute with the paper dating back to 2011

https://www.mdcourts.gov/sites/default/files/import/appellate/unreportedopinions/2015/2281s13.pdf


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1957 on: June 29, 2018, 02:31:22 pm »
Multiple shooting in Annapolis, in a media news outlet.

Not surprised by US shootings anymore.

What motives given by the shooter will be eye-opening, given Trump's repeated attacks on the media. 

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Prior to departing Wisconsin, I was briefed on the shooting at Capital Gazette in Annapolis, Maryland. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families. Thank you to all of the First Responders who are currently on the scene.

 :rolleyes:

Turns out it has nothing to do with Trump.
Cite?

Shooter had an ongoing dispute with the paper dating back to 2011

https://www.mdcourts.gov/sites/default/files/import/appellate/unreportedopinions/2015/2281s13.pdf

Thank you.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1958 on: June 30, 2018, 12:03:04 am »
Multiple shooting in Annapolis, in a media news outlet.

Not surprised by US shootings anymore.

What motives given by the shooter will be eye-opening, given Trump's repeated attacks on the media. 

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Prior to departing Wisconsin, I was briefed on the shooting at Capital Gazette in Annapolis, Maryland. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families. Thank you to all of the First Responders who are currently on the scene.

 :rolleyes:

Turns out it has nothing to do with Trump.
Cite?

Shooter had an ongoing dispute with the paper dating back to 2011

https://www.mdcourts.gov/sites/default/files/import/appellate/unreportedopinions/2015/2281s13.pdf
trump's attacks on the media--"our greatest enemy"--may have pushed him over the edge. Why after all this time go postal?

That said, it CERTAINLY demonstrates the need for better gun control in the US, as well as better mental health care. We need to vote out politicians who are in the pocket of the NRA, which is complicit in these mass shootings, and vote for ones who are going to make America truly safer.

Prayers ain't gonna cut it. I'd guess the five murdered were praying a lot more fervently than trumpy ever has.

This and opioid addiction are the real crises in the US.


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1959 on: June 30, 2018, 08:57:00 am »
trump's attacks on the media--"our greatest enemy"--may have pushed him over the edge. Why after all this time go postal?
The same reason as everyone else who went postal before Trump- long-simmering anger finally boiled over.

Do you seriously think a guy utterly obsessed with his defamation suit, listened to Trump and suddenly went "Well, I guess it's okay for me to go shoot the media now!". Give me a break.

He used a shotgun. I guess we have to ban shotguns now. So much for Joe Biden and his "fire a couple of blasts in the air"