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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1920 on: June 19, 2018, 04:31:51 pm »
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President Trump and two members of his cabinet mounted an aggressive defense on Monday of his policy of separating children from their parents at the border in response to a growing outcry from members of both parties.

“They could be murderers and thieves and so much else,” Mr. Trump said of the people crossing the border. “We want a safe country, and it starts with the borders, and that’s the way it is.”

On Tuesday, Mr. Trump is scheduled to go to Capitol Hill to address House Republicans, who are planning to vote on two immigration measures this week. In a Twitter post, Mr. Trump repeated his running blame of Democratic policies — “CHANGE THE LAWS!”

But no law actually requires that families be separated at the border.

Words fail again, especially with ridiculous line that it is a Democrat law, that he keeps repeating.   :rolleyes:  And to have a go at Merkel with a complete pile of crap tweet.  Winz all around.

He could, you know, issue an Executive Order. He loves showing those off.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1921 on: June 19, 2018, 07:51:38 pm »
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There are 11 million unauthorized immigrants in this country. Every past administration has used some discretion in targeting whom to deport. They targeted those who were destroying society, not building it. They tried to take account of particular contexts, and they tried to show some sense of basic humanity.

But today, discretion and humanity are being stamped out. The Trump administration has embraced a “zero tolerance” policy. In practice that means that all complexity has to be reduced to uniformity. Compassion is replaced by a blind obedience to regulations. Context is irrelevant. Arrests are indiscriminate. All that matters is that the arrest numbers go up, so human beings in the system are reduced to numbers.

What’s most significant is this: The Trump administration immigration officials have become exactly the kind of monsters that conservatism has always warned against.

From dyed in the wool republican David brooks.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1922 on: June 20, 2018, 11:34:58 am »
Apparently Ivanka whispered to her father that the optics of Trump Concentration Camps are not good politically.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1923 on: June 20, 2018, 11:55:01 am »
"When countries abuse us by sending their people up (not their best) we're not going to give anymore aid to those countries. Why the hell should we?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZjL8MxqUHE&t=80

An American president puts America first. That's the way it should be.




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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1924 on: June 20, 2018, 09:23:19 pm »
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The false claims come as the president — emboldened by fewer disciplinarians inside the West Wing — indulges in frequent Twitter screeds. A Washington Post analysis found that in June, Trump has been tweeting at the fastest rate of his presidency so far, an average of 11.3 messages per day.

Inside the White House, aides and advisers say they believe the media is unwilling to give Trump a fair shot and is knee-jerk ready to accuse him of lying, even in cases where the facts support his point.

The president often seeks to paint a self-serving and self-affirming alternate reality for himself and his supporters. Disparaging the “fake news” media, Trump offers his own filter through which to view the world — offering a competing reality on issues including relationships forged (or broken) at the Group of Seven summit in Canada, the success of the Singapore summit with the North Koreans, and his administration’s  “zero tolerance” policy on illegal immigration.

“It’s extraordinary how he is completely indifferent to truth. There’s just no relationship between his statements — anything he utters — and the actual truth of the matter,” said Thomas Murray, president emeritus of the Hastings Center, the founding institution in the field of bioethics. “As far as I can tell, the best way to understand anything he says is what will best serve his interests in the moment. It’s irrespective to any version of the truth.”

According to an analysis by The Post’s Fact Checker through the end of May, Trump had made 3,251 false or misleading claims in 497 days — an average of 6.5 such claims per day of his presidency.

And within the past week, Trump seems to have ramped up both the volume and the intensity of his false statements on two of the most prominent topics currently facing his administration: the hard-line immigration policy that has led to the separation of thousands of children from their parents — which Trump erroneously blames on others — and the 500-page inspector general report that he claims, incorrectly, exonerates him in special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s probe of Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Bella DePaulo, a psychology researcher at the University of California at Santa Barbara, said Trump’s use of repetition is a particularly effective technique for convincing his supporters of the veracity of his false claims, in part because most people have a “truth bias,” or an initial inclination to accept what others say as true.

“When liars repeat the same lie over and over again, they can get even more of an advantage, at least among those who want to believe them or are not all that motivated either way,” DePaulo said in an email. “So when people hear the same lies over and over again — especially when they want to believe those lies — a kind of new reality can be created. What they’ve heard starts to seem like it’s just obvious, and not something that needs to be questioned.”

On immigration, Trump and many top administration officials have said that existing U.S. laws and court rulings have given them no choice but to separate families trying to cross illegally into the United States. But it is the administration’s decision, announced in April, to prosecute all southern border crossings that has led to the separation of families.

That hasn’t stopped the president from blaming Democrats for his administration’s decisions. “Democrats are the problem,” Trump wrote in one tweet. In another, he was even more blunt: “The Democrats are forcing the breakup of families at the Border with their horrible and cruel legislative agenda,” he wrote.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-trump-seems-to-be-saying-more-and-more-things-that-arent-true/2018/06/19/c1bb8af6-73d5-11e8-805c-4b67019fcfe4_story.html?utm_term=.73bc533d593d

I get the feeling that the increase in crap flowing from Trump, is the tactic to flood the news full of bollocks as there is something big coming up that he has to drown out.  Something Bannon always recommended doing.
Yep. That and the big lie. Keep telling it until people believe it.

Thankfully much of the media is not buying into it and reporting his statements with the caveat that they are false.


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1925 on: June 21, 2018, 06:52:31 am »
Ending Democratic Party cruelty (singlehandedly!) should bolster his Nobel ambitions~


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1926 on: June 21, 2018, 08:00:27 am »
He could, you know, issue an Executive Order. He loves showing those off.

Hey presto!!!  An executive order!!  Nothing to do with the Democrat's law, then is it Don?  After 500 days, you are no closer to getting that wall built with the Mexicans paying for it.  Although, 25 billion of your own money is quite a lot really that could be used, you know, for something more useful like healthcare or fixing some of America's other obvious ills.

Must be killing him to have caved into public opinion.


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1927 on: June 21, 2018, 08:48:42 am »
He could, you know, issue an Executive Order. He loves showing those off.

Hey presto!!!  An executive order!!  Nothing to do with the Democrat's law, then is it Don?  After 500 days, you are no closer to getting that wall built with the Mexicans paying for it.  Although, 25 billion of your own money is quite a lot really that could be used, you know, for something more useful like healthcare or fixing some of America's other obvious ills.

The Left:

Trump is a wannabe dictator.

Why doesn't Trump just use executive orders???


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1928 on: June 21, 2018, 11:08:05 am »
He could, you know, issue an Executive Order. He loves showing those off.

Hey presto!!!  An executive order!!  Nothing to do with the Democrat's law, then is it Don?  After 500 days, you are no closer to getting that wall built with the Mexicans paying for it.  Although, 25 billion of your own money is quite a lot really that could be used, you know, for something more useful like healthcare or fixing some of America's other obvious ills.

Must be killing him to have caved into public opinion.
News is that his Mickey D's order was triple its normal size. He's drowning his sorrows in vanilla milk shakes.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1929 on: June 21, 2018, 11:09:18 am »
He could, you know, issue an Executive Order. He loves showing those off.

Hey presto!!!  An executive order!!  Nothing to do with the Democrat's law, then is it Don?  After 500 days, you are no closer to getting that wall built with the Mexicans paying for it.  Although, 25 billion of your own money is quite a lot really that could be used, you know, for something more useful like healthcare or fixing some of America's other obvious ills.

The Left:

Trump is a wannabe dictator.

Why doesn't Trump just use executive orders???
He didn't need an executive order to rescind HIS policy. That was just to save face.


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1930 on: June 21, 2018, 04:05:29 pm »
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We’re sending them back to hell!


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1931 on: June 21, 2018, 04:16:40 pm »
He could, you know, issue an Executive Order. He loves showing those off.

Hey presto!!!  An executive order!!  Nothing to do with the Democrat's law, then is it Don?  After 500 days, you are no closer to getting that wall built with the Mexicans paying for it.  Although, 25 billion of your own money is quite a lot really that could be used, you know, for something more useful like healthcare or fixing some of America's other obvious ills.

The Left:

Trump is a wannabe dictator.

Why doesn't Trump just use executive orders???
He didn't need an executive order to rescind HIS policy. That was just to save face.

Yeah! But it had to be about him.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1932 on: June 22, 2018, 11:46:14 pm »
The international community is taking trump to task for human rights violations.

Remember when it used to be the other way around?

Interesting trump comparison:

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Everyone laughed when the North Korean news agency reported that the late Dear Leader, Kim Jong-il, scored five holes-in-one while playing a round of golf. But how is this any different from Trump saying this week that crime is “way up” in Germany when it just recorded the lowest year for crime in nearly three decades? Who is left to call him on this? The press, which he’s labeled the “enemy of the American people”?

In North Korea, the masses are forced to believe the lies, something Trump clearly envies. “He speaks and his people sit up in attention,” he said of Kim Jong-un. “I want my people to do the same.”



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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1933 on: June 23, 2018, 02:34:10 am »


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What will happen to the separated 2,300 children who are currently in the custody of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS)?

http://time.com/5317117/what-happens-children-separated-family-border/

Of course Fox tries to call it fake news.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFT9Y8nu9wA
« Last Edit: June 23, 2018, 02:44:43 am by Adel »


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1934 on: June 23, 2018, 08:06:55 am »
So democrats kept families together but were sued for having them in jail.   So they had to separate them.  The democrats. 
They never protested under obama.     
Trump is moving on this because he’s  decent .
Dems are demogoging it and it’s just so fake .


I think it’s incredibly dangerous and irresponsible to liken the trump admin to nazis.   Because what would you do if you actually thought that nazis were in charge of the us.... dems are sick


All the pictures of the cages were from 2014

That time magazine cover , the toddler was with her parents and not taken in to custody.      It’s just a picture of a toddler crying .

Story after story ,  you are shocked, then you look into them and it’s all media supporting democrats.

Look how bad dems are doing and they have the media Hollywood and universities behind them,  if that doesn’t provide a clue for how bad they are then idk what will.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2018, 08:34:35 am by Chester Jim »
Bonzai!


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1935 on: June 23, 2018, 10:32:02 am »
So democrats kept families together but were sued for having them in jail.   So they had to separate them.  The democrats. 
They never protested under obama.     
Trump is moving on this because he’s  decent .
Dems are demogoging it and it’s just so fake .


I think it’s incredibly dangerous and irresponsible to liken the trump admin to nazis.   Because what would you do if you actually thought that nazis were in charge of the us.... dems are sick


All the pictures of the cages were from 2014

That time magazine cover , the toddler was with her parents and not taken in to custody.      It’s just a picture of a toddler crying .

Story after story ,  you are shocked, then you look into them and it’s all media supporting democrats.

Look how bad dems are doing and they have the media Hollywood and universities behind them,  if that doesn’t provide a clue for how bad they are then idk what will.
Now you've starting talking to yourself, jimbo. trump is driving you batty.

The wave is blue. You'll see in November.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1936 on: June 23, 2018, 11:07:58 am »
So, trumpists, which is it?

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President Donald Trump declared Friday that North Korea still poses an "extraordinary threat" to the United States.

In an executive order, the president extended for one year the so-called "national emergency" with respect to the nuclear-armed nation, re-authorizing economic restrictions against it.

While expected, the declaration comes just nine days after Trump tweeted, "There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea," following his summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Singapore.

The order appears to undermine the president's claim.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1937 on: June 24, 2018, 08:37:57 am »
So, trumpists, which is it?

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President Donald Trump declared Friday that North Korea still poses an "extraordinary threat" to the United States.

In an executive order, the president extended for one year the so-called "national emergency" with respect to the nuclear-armed nation, re-authorizing economic restrictions against it.

While expected, the declaration comes just nine days after Trump tweeted, "There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea," following his summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Singapore.

The order appears to undermine the president's claim.

So if two people are pointing guns at each other and shouting , that’s a little different than shaking hands and talking, right ? 
Another stupid attempt at demogoguing
Hopefully people continue to remember how dishonest dems are
Bonzai!


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1938 on: June 24, 2018, 10:57:36 am »
So, trumpists, which is it?

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President Donald Trump declared Friday that North Korea still poses an "extraordinary threat" to the United States.

In an executive order, the president extended for one year the so-called "national emergency" with respect to the nuclear-armed nation, re-authorizing economic restrictions against it.

While expected, the declaration comes just nine days after Trump tweeted, "There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea," following his summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Singapore.

The order appears to undermine the president's claim.

You do know that part of diplomacy is putting an optimistic spin on things, but as a country, you do keep yourself prepared for any shifts.

Half the time we say China is our friend and biggest trading partner. The other half we make noises about Chinese military activity and intellectual property theft.

That's just how realpolitik works.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1939 on: June 24, 2018, 10:36:14 pm »
So, trumpists, which is it?

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President Donald Trump declared Friday that North Korea still poses an "extraordinary threat" to the United States.

In an executive order, the president extended for one year the so-called "national emergency" with respect to the nuclear-armed nation, re-authorizing economic restrictions against it.

While expected, the declaration comes just nine days after Trump tweeted, "There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea," following his summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Singapore.

The order appears to undermine the president's claim.

You do know that part of diplomacy is putting an optimistic spin on things, but as a country, you do keep yourself prepared for any shifts.

Half the time we say China is our friend and biggest trading partner. The other half we make noises about Chinese military activity and intellectual property theft.

That's just how realpolitik works.
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