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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1640 on: May 09, 2018, 06:07:24 am »
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If the police would stop shooting innocent blacks

Do you want them to stop shooting innocent white guys too, or is it only the black guys you want to save?
One doesn't hear too much about American police gunning down innocent Caucasians. Does it not happen, or does it just not make the news?

Probably, just the ones high on Meth. Not too many unarmed whites shot in the back.
More whites are killed by police , police are brutal with whites.   I’ve seen several videos of police murdering whites .

Here’s the guy in the hotel https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/12/08/graphic-video-shows-daniel-shaver-sobbing-and-begging-officer-for-his-life-before-2016-shooting/?utm_term=.547e151ebfb4
Yes, the Shaver story is revolting.  I don't doubt more whites are killed by police, but do you suppose it's five times more white than blacks?   Like, you know, proportionally to the population?
Obviously
But then you look at the percentage of crime and existence of ghettos and a black underclass that behaves much differently and then that is negated.   
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1641 on: May 09, 2018, 08:14:02 am »
Soooooo.....Mr 'all about me' pulled out of the Iranian nuclear deal.  Not surprising, that he pulled out of something with nothing to replace it.  It really takes some petty dimwit to be so blinded by his predecessor that he'll do anything to destroy anything, even useful things, that the predecessor laid out.  Now, what country will trust any 'deal' with the US knowing that they will pull out of it on a whim.  If I were North Korea, I'd be watching closely.  Let's hope the other 5 countries forge ahead to stop the middle east from 'blowing up' but hopefully leaving the US out in the cold.  Effing idiot!

Ah yes North Korea the honest broker.   I do think there should be continuity between administrations, that’s why obama shouldn’t have pulled out of Iraq creating a huge isis mess, and for that matter why months after voting for the Iraq war traitors like Kerry and Edwards were using anti Iraq war sentiment to try to win elections. 

In the case of Iran, if they believe that we or Israel will bomb them , then they  will make more concessions than this deal.     Unfortunately this will all be undermined by anti trump Americans who have no idea how bad Iran is.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1642 on: May 09, 2018, 11:19:55 am »
Trump hammered Hillary Clinton over the Clinton Foundation's "Pay-to-play".

Turns out they're doing it too. All through Michael Cohen's shell company.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/08/att-confirms-it-paid-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-for-insights-on-administration.html


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1643 on: May 09, 2018, 04:24:14 pm »
It's almost as if Trump supporters never really cared about his economic stances the way they said they did, and only ever liked him because of his vile racism.

I still don’t understand how he is racist.    ?

It seems like racism means not agreeing with democrats.
You asked for it; you got it.

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Here, we have attempted to compile a definitive list of his racist comments – or at least the publicly known ones.
The New York Years

Trump’s real-estate company tried to avoid renting apartments to African-Americans in the 1970s and gave preferential treatment to whites, according to the federal government.

Trump treated black employees at his casinos differently from whites, according to multiple sources. A former hotel executive said Trump criticized a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks.”

In 1989, Trump took out ads in New York newspapers urging the death penalty for five black and Latino teenagers accused of raping a white woman in Central Park; he argued they were guilty as late as October 2016, more than 10 years after DNA evidence had exonerated them.

In 1989, on NBC, Trump said: “I think sometimes a black may think they don’t have an advantage or this and that. I’ve said on one occasion, even about myself, if I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I really believe they do have an actual advantage.”
An Obsession With
Dark-Skinned Immigrants

He began his 2016 presidential campaign with a speech disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and “rapists.”

He uses the gang MS-13 to disparage all immigrants. Among many other statements, he has suggested that Obama’s protection of the Dreamers — otherwise law-abiding immigrants who were brought to the United States illegally as children — contributed to the spread of MS-13.

In December 2015, Trump called for a “a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States,” including refusing to readmit Muslim-American citizens who were outside of the country at the time.

Trump said a federal judge hearing a case about Trump University was biased because of the judge’s Mexican heritage.

In June 2017, Trump said 15,000 recent immigrants from Haiti “all have AIDS” and that 40,000 Nigerians, once seeing the United States, would never “go back to their huts” in Africa.

At the White House on Jan. 11, Trump vulgarly called for less immigration from Haiti and Africa and more from Norway.
Obama As Unqualified,
Lazy and Un-American

He spent years suggesting that the nation’s first black president was born not in the United States but in Kenya, a lie that Trump still has not acknowledged as such.

Trump called Obama (who was editor in chief of the Harvard Law Review) “a terrible student, terrible.”

Trump frequently claimed that Obama did not work hard as president.

Trump falsely claimed that President Obama “issued a statement for Kwanzaa but failed to issue one for Christmas.”
Urban America As a Hellscape

He often casts heavily black American cities as dystopian war zones. In a 2016 debate with Hillary Clinton, Trump said, “Our inner cities, African Americans, Hispanics are living in hell because it’s so dangerous. You walk down the street, you get shot.” Trump also said to black voters: “You’re living in poverty; your schools are no good; you have no jobs.”

He frequently offers false crime statistics to exaggerate urban crime, including about Oakland, Philadelphia and Ferguson, Mo.

He is quick to highlight crimes committed by dark-skinned people, sometimes exaggerating or lying about them (such as a claim about growing crime from “radical Islamic terror” in Britain). He is very slow to decry hate crimes committed by whites against dark-skinned people (such as the killing of an Indian man in Kansas last year).
Minorities As Uppity
and Ungrateful

He frequently criticizes prominent African-Americans for being unpatriotic, ungrateful and disrespectful.

He called Puerto Ricans who criticized his administration’s response to Hurricane Maria “politically motivated ingrates.”
Friendliness with Proud
Racists and White Nationalists

He has retweeted white nationalists without apology.

He called some of those who marched alongside white supremacists in Charlottesville, Va., last August “very fine people.”

After David Duke, the former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, endorsed him, Trump was reluctant to disavow Duke even when asked directly on television.

Trump hired Steve Bannon as his campaign head and later White House chief strategist. Under Bannon’s leadership, the website Breitbart made white nationalism a central theme. It featured a section, for example, on “black crime.”

Trump endorsed and campaigned for Roy Moore, the Alabama Senate candidate who spoke positively about slavery and who called for an African-American Muslim member of Congress not to be seated because of his religion.

Trump pardoned – and fulsomely praises – Joe Arpaio, the Arizona sheriff sanctioned for racially profiling Latinos and for keeping immigrants in brutal prison conditions.
Denigrating Native Americans

In the 1990s, Trump took out advertisements alleging that the “Mohawk Indian record of criminal activity is well documented.” At the time, he was fighting competition for his casino business.

In a 1993 radio interview, he suggested that Native Americans in Connecticut were faking their ancestry. “I think I might have more Indian blood than a lot of the so-called Indians that are trying to open up the reservations.”

In a November 2017 meeting with Navajo veterans of World War II, Trump mocked Senator Elizabeth Warren as “Pocahontas.”
Other Assorted Racism

Trump has trafficked in anti-Semitic caricatures, including the tweeting of a six-pointed star alongside a pile of cash. He has also been reluctant to condemn anti-Semitic attacks on journalists from his supporters, and he echoed neo-Nazi conspiracy theories by saying that Hillary Clinton “meets in secret with international banks to plot the destruction of U.S. sovereignty in order to enrich these global financial powers, her special interest friends and her donors.”

In a White House meeting with a Korean-American intelligence analyst briefing him on Pakistan, Trump wondered aloud why she was not working on North Korea policy.

Trump once referred to a Hispanic Miss Universe as “Miss Housekeeping.”

At a June 2016 campaign rally, Trump pointed to one attendee and said: “Oh, look at my African-American over here. Look at him.”

You do realize that 20% of this implies that badmouthing someone who isn't white means you are a racist.  For instance, if I call OJ a criminal, that makes me racist.  I think you have a poor definition of racism.

You have some good evidence here, but sadly it gets overshadowed by the poor ones and the ones that aren't examples of racism at all.


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1644 on: May 09, 2018, 04:41:22 pm »
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You do realize that 20% of this implies that badmouthing someone who isn't white means you are a racist.  For instance, if I call OJ a criminal, that makes me racist.  I think you have a poor definition of racism.

You have some good evidence here, but sadly it gets overshadowed by the poor ones and the ones that aren't examples of racism at all.

Yeah my feelings too. E.g. the second one, if substantiated, seems pretty racist but a lot of the others are just saying bad things about people who happen not to be white or Americans


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1645 on: May 09, 2018, 05:00:48 pm »
Did you ever think about how bad Obama had to be for the public to elect an orange-skinned geriatric billionaire who was a former reality star? That's right. Pretty damn bad.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1646 on: May 09, 2018, 05:08:43 pm »
Did you ever think about how bad Obama had to be for the public to elect an orange-skinned geriatric billionaire who was a former reality star? That's right. Pretty damn bad.
Insofar as I recall, Mr. Obama and Mr. Trump weren't running against each other.  :wink:


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1647 on: May 09, 2018, 07:48:33 pm »
Water is beginning to slowly circle the drain.  Mueller is saving Ivanka and the Don for last -- a final grand finale if you will. 



..aaaand war with Iran right on cue now that NK has come to the table.   :-[



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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1648 on: May 09, 2018, 08:48:44 pm »
Did you ever think about how bad Obama had to be for the public to elect an orange-skinned geriatric billionaire who was a former reality star? That's right. Pretty damn bad.
Insofar as I recall, Mr. Obama and Mr. Trump weren't running against each other.  :wink:

Lest we forget, Trump and his supporters live in a post-truth world. ;D
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1649 on: May 10, 2018, 07:07:02 am »
He would have beat obama .  Obama won because Romney and mccain used kids gloves because obama is black.
Had it been anyone else hanging out with a racist reverend right and being so obsessed with race are really easy fodder.     

Trump versus obama “ so I read Barry’s book dreams from my father, all he could do was dream he met the guy one time. “. 
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1650 on: May 10, 2018, 07:38:08 am »
He would have beat obama .  Obama won because Romney and mccain used kids gloves because obama is black.
Had it been anyone else hanging out with a racist reverend right and being so obsessed with race are really easy fodder.     

Trump versus obama “ so I read Barry’s book dreams from my father, all he could do was dream he met the guy one time. “.
I'm pretty sure you're attributing that quote to Mr. Trump, as it makes no sense at all. :laugh:
 Anyway, because of the terrible 2 party system they have over there, it seems that the opposing party always has an advantage after the incumbent party finishes its second term.
    Unfortunately, The Who (and the Romans they quoted) had it right: "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1651 on: May 10, 2018, 08:14:27 am »
He would have beat obama .  Obama won because Romney and mccain used kids gloves because obama is black.
Had it been anyone else hanging out with a racist reverend right and being so obsessed with race are really easy fodder.     

Trump versus obama “ so I read Barry’s book dreams from my father, all he could do was dream he met the guy one time. “.
I don't think the average american would have bought trump's birther lies or trump's racism. Obama would have to taken him to the woodshed without ever breaking a sweat.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1652 on: May 10, 2018, 08:16:01 am »
Did you ever think about how bad Obama had to be for the public to elect an orange-skinned geriatric billionaire who was a former reality star? That's right. Pretty damn bad.
Nope. Obama did loads of good.

People elected trump because they were as deluded as your post shows you to be.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1653 on: May 10, 2018, 08:22:53 am »
Cohen selling access to the WH. Pruitt Price and others under investigation.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1654 on: May 10, 2018, 09:54:59 am »
One of the best things about Trump's victory is we get to see the scum who call the shots in the American Deep State. Guys like Comey, Clapper, and Brennan are downright scary.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1655 on: May 10, 2018, 12:28:12 pm »
One of the best things about Trump's victory is we get to see the scum who call the shots in the American Deep State. Guys like Comey, Clapper, and Brennan are downright scary.
As always your contribution to this thread is invaluable.
It demonstrates the impoverished state of your education system that fueled the ascendancy of a demagogue such as Trump.
I only hope the constitution is strong enough to withstand his assault.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1656 on: May 11, 2018, 03:18:04 am »
Nixing the Iran deal has helped save russia's economy, as ever since trumpy threatened to do so, oil prices have shot up. And up.

Is this how he's paying putin back?


Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1657 on: May 11, 2018, 10:29:49 am »
Nixing the Iran deal has helped save russia's economy, as ever since trumpy threatened to do so, oil prices have shot up. And up.

Is this how he's paying putin back?
Funny, I thought he was paying back the United States because we're a major oil producer.

Oh wait, maybe it was Norway.
Or Canada?
Or was it Venezuela? Trump's a socialist!

Or was it the Saudis?
Or the Qataris?
Or the Bahrainians?
or the Iraqis?
Or the Emiratis? Trump loves Muslims!

Or was it the Nigerians?
Or the Angolans? Trump loves Africans!


Or was it the Mexicans?
Or the Colombians? Trump loves Latinos!


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1658 on: May 11, 2018, 11:40:08 am »
Nixing the Iran deal has helped save russia's economy, as ever since trumpy threatened to do so, oil prices have shot up. And up.

Is this how he's paying putin back?
Funny, I thought he was paying back the United States because we're a major oil producer.

Oh wait, maybe it was Norway.
Or Canada?
Or was it Venezuela? Trump's a socialist!

Or was it the Saudis?
Or the Qataris?
Or the Bahrainians?
or the Iraqis?
Or the Emiratis? Trump loves Muslims!

Or was it the Nigerians?
Or the Angolans? Trump loves Africans!


Or was it the Mexicans?
Or the Colombians? Trump loves Latinos!

Generally speaking, high oil prices are bad for the US, as it's a net importer of oil, not a net exporter.

And isn't Venezuela predominantly Latino as well (apart from all those ex-Nazis, that is), or did you organize you list that way because ideological prejudice Trumps racial prejudice?
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1659 on: May 11, 2018, 11:45:39 am »
Nixing the Iran deal has helped save russia's economy, as ever since trumpy threatened to do so, oil prices have shot up. And up.

Is this how he's paying putin back?
Funny, I thought he was paying back the United States because we're a major oil producer.

Oh wait, maybe it was Norway.
Or Canada?
Or was it Venezuela? Trump's a socialist!

Or was it the Saudis?
Or the Qataris?
Or the Bahrainians?
or the Iraqis?
Or the Emiratis? Trump loves Muslims!

Or was it the Nigerians?
Or the Angolans? Trump loves Africans!


Or was it the Mexicans?
Or the Colombians? Trump loves Latinos!

Generally speaking, high oil prices are bad for the US, as it's a net importer of oil, not a net exporter.

And isn't Venezuela predominantly Latino as well? I mean, aside from all those ex-Nazis...

The point is that high oil prices affect a lot of countries around the world. To say it's being done to help Russia is just ridiculous. One could take any country off that list and say Trump is doing it to benefit them. Some very far-right types who think Trump is a liberal could say that he's doing this to help Venezuela and Mexico.

Many of the Gulf States are aiding anti-Assad rebels. They benefit from high-oil prices as well. Venezuela and its socialist government benefits from high oil prices.

Heck, higher oil prices mean less consumption- Trump is green!