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Title: baggy jeans
Post by: cashclay on October 24, 2015, 07:11:37 pm
where can i buy some baggy jeans?  All the jeans here in korea is skin tight and honestly its not my style.  Im looking jeans a little on the hip hop or baggy side.  Something a little loose fit. Ive tried gmarket and couldnt find anything
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: ithinkinailedit on October 24, 2015, 07:44:59 pm
The old school kind of Americana look is popular among some Koreans these days, and that often means bigger jeans. The Levis original store in Myeung-dong has plenty but they can get pretty expensive/high end. Uniqlo has great bang for your buck but I doubt you'll find jeans baggy enough there.
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: cashclay on October 26, 2015, 01:39:13 pm
nope i triesd uniqlo. i honestly hate the mens fashion here. its so girly. 
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: nomadicmadda on October 26, 2015, 02:09:41 pm
nope i triesd uniqlo. i honestly hate the mens fashion here. its so girly.

How nice of you to equate femininity in fashion as a bad thing.  Sounds like you've got some incredibly fragile masculinity (http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukebailey/masculinity-is-strong-and-powerful#.bfe4kXxO65) there bro.  Hope you can find comfortable jeans, regardless of their "gender".
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: Hot6^ on October 26, 2015, 02:16:06 pm
nope i triesd uniqlo. i honestly hate the mens fashion here. its so girly.

How nice of you to equate femininity in fashion as a bad thing.  Sounds like you've got some incredibly fragile masculinity (http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukebailey/masculinity-is-strong-and-powerful#.bfe4kXxO65) there bro.  Hope you can find comfortable jeans, regardless of their "gender".

agreed.

I'm not even sure what hip hop style means... is that where you take a normal pair of jeans, then sag them below your butt, just wearing boxers, and then walk around like you shit your pants?
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: cjszk on October 26, 2015, 02:24:26 pm
If you workout and have a good looking body, thin clothes actually compliment your masculinity more than baggy crap which hides your body. In other words, if you find skinny clothes here "girly," it may be time you thought about it a different way. Other than that I do agree that some of the fashion can sometimes come off as feminine here. But there's nothing wrong with being a little feminine either.

Baggy clothes also will make you stand out a lot more in this part of the world, some of the older folk will look at you like you are some thug, or just baggy jeans will make you look like a clown. At uniqlo there is a type of jean fabric that actually despite being narrow, stretches quite well and is comfortable. Look for it.

If you truly want baggy jeans, if you don't have access to the US military bases your best bet is to just order online.
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: Aristocrat on October 26, 2015, 02:29:29 pm
nope i triesd uniqlo. i honestly hate the mens fashion here. its so girly.

How nice of you to equate femininity in fashion as a bad thing.  Sounds like you've got some incredibly fragile masculinity (http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukebailey/masculinity-is-strong-and-powerful#.bfe4kXxO65) there bro.  Hope you can find comfortable jeans, regardless of their "gender".

I think you're jumping the gun. 'Comfort' isn't just about the softness of the fabric or it's breathability/warmth. The vast majority of men wish to appear masculine and wearing something that is preppy to the extreme (rather popular around Asia), appears feminine and makes the male wearer feel uncomfortable.
A good sized ladies handbag holds about the same volume as my briefcase, but I hope you understand why I'd never buy the former, no matter how 'in style' or on sale it is.

OP
You might find some stuff in the thrift stores. I recommend these folks, they make great jeans
to your measurements in any style you'd want.
http://www.makeyourownjeans.com/

Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: ithinkinailedit on October 26, 2015, 02:31:41 pm
nope i triesd uniqlo. i honestly hate the mens fashion here. its so girly.

How nice of you to equate femininity in fashion as a bad thing.  Sounds like you've got some incredibly fragile masculinity (http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukebailey/masculinity-is-strong-and-powerful#.bfe4kXxO65) there bro.  Hope you can find comfortable jeans, regardless of their "gender".

agreed.

I'm not even sure what hip hop style means... is that where you take a normal pair of jeans, then sag them below your butt, just wearing boxers, and then walk around like you shit your pants?

No offense OP but it's 2015, and baggy jeans aren't really part of hip hop style anymore, as rappers are definitely wearing much tighter pants. The days of Biggie and 2Pac are long gone. And it's true that male fashion trends here tend to be overtly preppy and feminine, but there are plenty of options if you don't want to dress like that.
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: Schellib39 on October 26, 2015, 02:38:53 pm
Well should I follow the men's clothing style here than I would be walking down the street with my package clearly defined through the jeans...chances are I would be labeled a pervert for wearing skinny jeans by the Koreans. (and before anyone starts to take the piss, this isn't me stating that I am huge down there. I would say that most western men would probably have the same problem wearing the skinny jeans that the Korean men wear....)
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: AndyKanerva on October 26, 2015, 02:44:19 pm
Pretty sure the average Korean doesn't walk around with a magnifying glass.





*Just taking the piss
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: Kyndo on October 26, 2015, 02:45:49 pm
nope i triesd uniqlo. i honestly hate the mens fashion here. its so girly.
How nice of you to equate femininity in fashion as a bad thing.  Sounds like you've got some incredibly fragile masculinity (http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukebailey/masculinity-is-strong-and-powerful#.bfe4kXxO65) there bro.  Hope you can find comfortable jeans, regardless of their "gender".

I don't necessarily think that disliking a fashion is the same thing as equating it with "bad" (unless, you know, it's an SS uniform (http://usercontent1.hubimg.com/3685552.jpg) or something).
I tend to dislike most anything that smacks of "high fashion", but I understand that it's a "to each their own" kind of thing...(it's still stupid looking though!)


If you workout and have a good looking body, thin clothes actually compliment your masculinity more than baggy crap which hides your body...
Point in case:
(http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Robin-Hood-Tights-bh07.jpg)
Amirite?  :smiley:
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: Hot6^ on October 26, 2015, 02:48:04 pm
Well should I follow the men's clothing style here than I would be walking down the street with my package clearly defined through the jeans...chances are I would be labeled a pervert for wearing skinny jeans by the Koreans. (and before anyone starts to take the piss, this isn't me stating that I am huge down there. I would say that most western men would probably have the same problem wearing the skinny jeans that the Korean men wear....)

Well bight the bullet and buy some levi's.

Obviously if you are big, uniqlo won't work... I am not a big man, 125lbs, and I have to wear XL hoodies at uniqlo for them to fit.

For this reason alone I bought a bunch of levis for 20$ rather 200$ before I came back.

You could always find some guy who probably custom tailors jeans in Itaewon lol
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: jamienottingham on October 26, 2015, 03:03:36 pm
It's a a struggle to get "regular" fit jeans here, let alone baggy jeans. Uniqlo's loose fit taper at the ankles, so end up looking like parachute pants
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: johnny russian on October 26, 2015, 03:08:20 pm
just go to itaewon man. should be some place there that sells baggy jeans.
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: waygo0k on October 26, 2015, 05:14:23 pm
Old navy.

They'll have to ship them from the US...but it usually takes 1-2 weeks
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: cashclay on October 26, 2015, 07:47:37 pm
i think some of you guys are a bit on the negative side or just misunderstanding what i wrote.  Im not talking about pants that im dragging down to my ankles.  Im just looking for jeans that dont look like theyve been spray painted on.   Thats seems to be the look of this generation here in korea and quite frankly its very uncomfortable and not my style.  Im looking for jeans with a little more room in them. 
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: nomadicmadda on October 26, 2015, 08:14:53 pm
nope i triesd uniqlo. i honestly hate the mens fashion here. its so girly.

How nice of you to equate femininity in fashion as a bad thing.  Sounds like you've got some incredibly fragile masculinity (http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukebailey/masculinity-is-strong-and-powerful#.bfe4kXxO65) there bro.  Hope you can find comfortable jeans, regardless of their "gender".
I think you're jumping the gun. 'Comfort' isn't just about the softness of the fabric or it's breathability/warmth. The vast majority of men wish to appear masculine and wearing something that is preppy to the extreme (rather popular around Asia), appears feminine and makes the male wearer feel uncomfortable.
A good sized ladies handbag holds about the same volume as my briefcase, but I hope you understand why I'd never buy the former, no matter how 'in style' or on sale it is.
I don't necessarily think that disliking a fashion is the same thing as equating it with "bad" (unless, you know, it's an SS uniform or something).
I tend to dislike most anything that smacks of "high fashion", but I understand that it's a "to each their own" kind of thing...(it's still stupid looking though!)

To clarify: unlike some other people here, I'm absolutely not suggesting OP wear any styles he's uncomfortable with or doesn't like.  Kyndo, there's a difference between not liking a style and simply saying, "I don't like tighter/skinnier jeans because they're uncomfortable," and saying that you don't like a certain style because it's feminine, as if being "more feminine" is a bad thing.  OP hates the fashion here because it's girly.  Not because it's uncomfortable or simply not his style.  Aristocrat no one is saying OP has to buy the feminine handbag, but there's also no reason to look upon with disdain/snub/put down who do choose to, regardless of whether they're guys or girls.  That was my point.  My comment about OP finding the kind of pants he wants based on comfort was serious--I don't think anyone should be forced to wear something they're uncomfortable in, either physically or mentally, because of fashion trends.

OP you may want to check thrift stores.  I know down in Gwangju I've seen looser straight-leg jeans in Tokyo Juice and Golden Vintage.  The Levi's 513's  (http://www.heddels.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Before-Levis-513.png)also might be a really good fit for you, as they're a looser yet still slim straight-cut jean.  They have just the right amount of fabric to look slim and polished without being physically uncomfortable.

I'm also a big advocate for purchasing fewer quality jeans over a larger quantity of cheap jeans.  I acknowledge the fact that not everyone will spend what I do on jeans, but I do think that any quality jean should cost you over $100USD.  Unless you're getting it marked down off season and on sale, and not at an outlet where they might have been sent due to quality-control flaws.  But I digress.  I used to buy cheaper $50-$60 jeans, but later found I was buying them nearly every 6mo because I wear them so hard every day.  When I bought my first $200 pair of jeans, despite daily wear the lasted me nearly 4 years, so the basically pay for themselves.  As a rule of thumb, anything over $120 and you're fairly golden and should get 2-3+ years out of them, depending on how brutal you are on them.
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: johnny russian on October 26, 2015, 08:37:37 pm
i think some of you guys are a bit on the negative side or just misunderstanding what i wrote.  Im not talking about pants that im dragging down to my ankles.  Im just looking for jeans that dont look like theyve been spray painted on.   Thats seems to be the look of this generation here in korea and quite frankly its very uncomfortable and not my style.  Im looking for jeans with a little more room in them.

http://item2.gmarket.co.kr/English/detailview/item.aspx?goodscode=319588219
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: tunacookie on October 27, 2015, 09:52:41 am
I buy online. From ebay maybe every two years I'll buy three or four pairs of levis bootcut if there're good deals on. They'll last me 2 or 3 years.
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: zola on October 27, 2015, 09:59:41 am
The look OP is trying to achieve...
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: nomadicmadda on October 27, 2015, 10:01:34 am
The look OP is trying to achieve...

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
The people in the background!!  The woman looks so disgusted, but the kid looks like he's mildly impressed :laugh:
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: Schellib39 on October 27, 2015, 12:36:00 pm

http://item2.gmarket.co.kr/English/detailview/item.aspx?goodscode=319588219

I must be way out of the times if this is considered to be baggy fit now. That looks like a regular fit jean to me.
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: Jada4 on October 27, 2015, 01:30:19 pm
nope i triesd uniqlo. i honestly hate the mens fashion here. its so girly.

OP I don't have any advice on where to buy the jeans that haven't already been given, but I wanted to say I didn't find your comment offensive.  In Korea it is hard to find a variety of styles like I can back home in the States. The casual men's style for the younger generation is very limited.  And their style does borrow/influenced heavily by women's fashion from years past.  While the word, "girly" seems to really upset some people I didn't see it as you saying it as a negative thing for others to wear, just that that is not your preference for your style.  But some people tend to see people not being PC enough in everything.

 And for any person of a certain height or size it can be very difficult to find cloths here that fit. ( for women trying to buy dresses the length is very hard to find here! But Autumn is here, so no worries ^^ )

Good luck finding jeans that fit your style and body!   

Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: nomadicmadda on October 27, 2015, 01:39:12 pm

http://item2.gmarket.co.kr/English/detailview/item.aspx?goodscode=319588219

I must be way out of the times if this is considered to be baggy fit now. That looks like a regular fit jean to me.

They're actually tapered, which I also think look like shit.  Far worse than baggy/looser jeans.  Like someone else said, they look like weird parachute pants or give you a bizarre thigh shape.

Edit: This comes off like I think anything except skinny jeans looks terrible--that's not what I mean!!  See my earlier post where I recommended the Levi's 513's. They're a looser fit but still slim enough to look polished:
(http://www.zappos.com/images/z/2/4/1/5/2/5/2415258-3-4x.jpg)


...tapered jeans do look like shit on both men and women though. :laugh:
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: twinfish101 on October 27, 2015, 01:49:41 pm
OP, I understand exactly what you mean. There's really no relaxed fit jeans here, no bootcut, really no straight-leg either. It's basically all skinny spandex pants & jeans, more like jeggings, tapered at the ankle & skintight. There's no room for anything much in the back or the front. That's what Korean men & women like to wear, at least the younger ones. Saying the trend is feminine is true in a way, because here tight pants are unisex.

I'm a woman & I don't like wearing tight pants or jeans at all, so I can just imagine what you feel like as a man when it's not your style. There are plenty of younger men in the States (I would say the majority, actually) that don't wear painted-on pants, contrary to what the fashion police in this thread are saying. If you don't want to wear skinny jeans/jeggings a la Lil Wayne, then you shouldn't have to & there's nothing wrong with that.

I second the previous suggestions of buying online, shopping around the military bases (they usually have the best options for different kinds of western-style wear), or shopping on post if you've got a military friend who will sign you in. I've pretty much given up on buying clothes here. Since I know my size & the brand that fits me, I just order my favorite bootcut jeans online instead.
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: donuts81 on October 27, 2015, 03:14:43 pm
Quote
  Like someone else said, they look like weird parachute pants or give you a bizarre thigh shape.

Like a human sausage

(http://www.writeups.org/img/fiche/5618c.jpg)
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: johnny russian on October 27, 2015, 03:55:00 pm
OP, are your thighs really that big that even regular-fit jeans look skin-tight on you? if so, virtual high-five for never skipping leg day.

anyway, maybe you know this, maybe you don't, but the spray-painted on look comes from skinny jeans. other than that you get "slim-fit" jeans, which are still tight but not as skin-tight as skinny, and then you get "regular fit", which i guess you could describe as just normal fit - not too tight, not too baggy.

in general for men it's a good rule to wear clothes that fit properly. "properly" here means not too tight, but not too loose either. if regular jeans fit ok, you probably look good in them, even if you think they're a bit too tight.

if even regular fit jeans are too tight for you, then i dunno, maybe just embrace the gayness and wear those tight things like you own them? i swore i'd never wear tight jeans until i got here, after a few months, i caved, and now i really like jeans that hug my legs a bit closer.

hell, i even bought one cheap pair of those skinny jeans, just to see what they're like. they make my ass look great, but they're too tight and uncomfortable for me to wear more than 1 day per month. i usually go for the slim-fit jeans, gives me some space to move whilst still hugging my legs nicely.
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: cashclay on October 27, 2015, 08:48:36 pm
well i looked all over the place and i think im, about to give up on this one.  guess illl have to order from amazon and pay a ridiculous shipping coverage. 
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: MayorHaggar on October 27, 2015, 10:22:03 pm
It's not even that fashion is "girly" here, the issue for normal-sized Western guys is that pants here are just too small to fit. I guess part of it is that Koreans (men and women) have no hips and really flat butts. But also it seems like there's this weird assumption by stores that all Koreans are the same size...you see lots of Koreans that are really tall or pretty stout but clothes are only made for skinny short people. You get imported jeans here but they're ALWAYS only skinny fit or slim fit or whatever.

 I wear medium stuff in the US but I have to wear XL shirts here, and I can't even fit into any pants here. Shoes are really hard too, most shoes stop at 270 and I wear about 275 or 280.

Combine all this with foreign brands being overpriced, and I gave up on pants here a while ago and just get my mom to send pants from the US.
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: ithinkinailedit on October 28, 2015, 07:36:49 am
well i looked all over the place and i think im, about to give up on this one.  guess illl have to order from amazon and pay a ridiculous shipping coverage.

Again, Levis original store in Myeung-dong. What a lot of people don't realize is that old school jeans were much, MUCH baggier. They have a ton of baggy jeans and great sales reps that are willing to let you try on everything. Not cheap, but the quality is unbeatable. You can also try Modeman in Yeonnam-dong (next to Hongdae). They specialize in raw/Japanese denim, and baggier fits are actually very popular in Japan.
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: cjszk on October 28, 2015, 07:38:43 am
OP, are your thighs really that big that even regular-fit jeans look skin-tight on you? if so, virtual high-five for never skipping leg day.
I skipped leg day for a few weeks... did my most recent leg day first thing this week, now I'm paying the brutal price... it hurts like hell :sad:

Jeans these days have definitely gotten thinner... When I was in high school those jeans felt REALLY baggy. I got those kinds of jeans from US shopping malls and the sort. I honestly think that if you find good fabric that stretches well it actually doesn't feel bad to wear jeans that are a little tight. Fabric plays an important role too.
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: nomadicmadda on October 28, 2015, 07:48:23 am
well i looked all over the place and i think im, about to give up on this one.  guess illl have to order from amazon and pay a ridiculous shipping coverage.

Again, Levis original store in Myeung-dong. What a lot of people don't realize is that old school jeans were much, MUCH baggier. They have a ton of baggy jeans and great sales reps that are willing to let you try on everything. Not cheap, but the quality is unbeatable. You can also try Modeman in Yeonnam-dong (next to Hongdae). They specialize in raw/Japanese denim, and baggier fits are actually very popular in Japan.

This is exactly what I've seen saying too, and I know you mentioned it before as well. It sounds like OP doesn't really want to put in the effort to look, as this would have been my first stop too.  If OP doesn't live in Seoul, it would be worth a weekend of popping into town.
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: Nivea on October 28, 2015, 07:49:25 am
I think the only useful solution is to go to Levi or a quality store while on vacation. You get the western styles in places like KL, Japan and Thailand. I've bought jeans while on vacation in KL, Singapore and Australia. Much better fit than any cheap crap I've bought in Korea.
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: johnny russian on October 28, 2015, 08:13:03 am
It's not even that fashion is "girly" here, the issue for normal-sized Western guys is that pants here are just too small to fit. I guess part of it is that Koreans (men and women) have no hips and really flat butts. But also it seems like there's this weird assumption by stores that all Koreans are the same size...you see lots of Koreans that are really tall or pretty stout but clothes are only made for skinny short people. You get imported jeans here but they're ALWAYS only skinny fit or slim fit or whatever.

 I wear medium stuff in the US but I have to wear XL shirts here, and I can't even fit into any pants here. Shoes are really hard too, most shoes stop at 270 and I wear about 275 or 280.

Combine all this with foreign brands being overpriced, and I gave up on pants here a while ago and just get my mom to send pants from the US.

most koreans are getting a bit fat these days, especially the guys. i honestly don't know where they get their clothes from. i'm pretty lanky - 1.80m tall and only weigh about 67kg - and even i struggle to find stuff in a size that'll fit me.

some of my winter coats are korean 'XL' size - korean coat size 105 - because i like them to have a bit of room so i can wear a sweater under them. and that's the highest size that coats will go at some places!

i wear pants size 32 and even that's a struggle to find at some places too. tons of size 28 (seriously?!) and 30. if you wear anything bigger than 34 you're pretty much screwed.
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: ultrarunningwaygookin on October 28, 2015, 01:04:37 pm
jeans shopping is impossible for me in Korea. I do all my clothes shopping at either thrift stores or abroad - good jeans in Taipei Levi's outlet, and Hong Kong American eagle stores. Australia is a great vacation for clothes shopping, if you can afford it  :P
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: cashclay on October 28, 2015, 06:39:46 pm
hey how are the thrift stores here in korea?  Were you able to find some baggy jeans?  And no i dont live in seoul so i really dont know where everything is. 
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: WayCookin on October 29, 2015, 05:33:08 am
just go to itaewon man. should be some place there that sells baggy jeans.
The area around Osan Air force base has a nice selection of men's clothing in western sizes.
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: ithinkinailedit on October 29, 2015, 07:30:31 am
hey how are the thrift stores here in korea?  Were you able to find some baggy jeans?  And no i dont live in seoul so i really dont know where everything is.

Could you make it to Seoul for a random weekend and knock down some shopping? It's one of the easiest cities to navigate in the world. I guarantee you will be able to find everything with minimal effort.
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: nomadicmadda on October 29, 2015, 07:40:22 am
hey how are the thrift stores here in korea?  Were you able to find some baggy jeans?  And no i dont live in seoul so i really dont know where everything is.

If you live closer to Gwangju in Jeonnam, there are two thrift stores that I'm aware of there:

Tokyo Juice, which is next to the Lotte Cinema and across from H&M, and Golden Vintage, with is right near Geumnamro-4ga subway station.  Both are in the Chungjangro "downtown"shopping area.

As for Seoul, it's very, very easy to navigate even if you've never been there.  There are plenty of resources if you Google ion English, even.  There's really no reason why you wouldn't be able to find out where everything is, even if you don't know already.  It just takes a little effort.
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: Mezoti97 on October 29, 2015, 08:50:35 am
jeans shopping is impossible for me in Korea. I do all my clothes shopping at either thrift stores or abroad - good jeans in Taipei Levi's outlet, and Hong Kong American eagle stores. Australia is a great vacation for clothes shopping, if you can afford it  :P

There are American Eagle stores in Seoul. They probably carry loose-fitting men's jeans with a roomier fit. However, expect a heavy mark-up in price -- I've never been to any American Eagle stores here, but based on other Western brand clothing stores here, I would guess the prices are heavily marked-up.
Title: Re: baggy jeans
Post by: cashclay on October 31, 2015, 04:02:04 am
hey thanks for the replies but i actually found some selections on gmarket.  I came to the conclusion that i was typing in the wrong words.  If youre looking for baggy or loose fitting jeans type in the words "빅사이즈 바치", you should see a rather handsome selection to choose from.