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Title: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ashe1590 on September 29, 2014, 01:22:24 pm
I'm curious to hear anyone who has taken part in this programme? Information in English is a little hard to find and nothing came up when I searched it on this website.

It seems pretty intensive and a little strict in terms of the level of commitment, which is giving me a few reservations. Do they really kick you out if you don't show up enough? What are the levels like/ how do they relate to the TOPIK levels? Was the course useful?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: jeremydc808 on September 29, 2014, 01:35:52 pm
l'd like to know as well.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: hiphopopotamus on September 29, 2014, 01:48:24 pm
I can share some insight here as I'm going through the program now.

The website www.socinet.go.kr  is where you register for the 평가 (placement) test. Take that, and you will be placed into one of 4 language levels. The fifth level is called Understanding Korean Society and discusses everything from culture, society, politics, economics, geography, etc.

Levels 1-4 are 100 hours of class time each. Level 5 is 50 hours.

I tested into Level 4 which I completed this year (passed with test at the end, similar to TOPIK, but shorter and easier in my opinion). I'm currently doing the Level 5 classes (just completed 20 hours this past weekend).

Classes are offered at local universities and usually consist of mostly SE asian wives and a few local businessmen and women.

And then, upon completion of the class, an assessment can be made at the immigration office to add up your points and see if you qualify for the F-level visa upgrade. I hope to have this entire process complete in the next two months.

Hope this helps.

Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Tony Blair on September 29, 2014, 01:54:28 pm
I did the first two levels of this.

They really are strict about the time. My sessions were 2-3 hours each, so you miss one session and the alarm bells start ringing and you're in danger of flunking.

It was delivered completely in Korean. So don't expect anyone to explain what's going on. The text books aren't structured great, so if the teacher isn't great you're a little bit screwed. I had some good and bad teachers in that time. All PHd students, with various degrees of motivation.

Learned a lot, but it's intense.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: hiphopopotamus on September 29, 2014, 01:55:15 pm
I meant to say that the strictness depends completely on your teacher. My Level 4 teacher was super relaxed and would get off topic or extend break times, etc. which made for a very relaxed class.

My Level 5 teacher is more by-the-book regarding time management, but not strict if you come to class 10 minutes late.

Both classes required 80% attendance to pass, so you can miss a few and still be all right.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: sejongthefabulous on September 29, 2014, 01:58:26 pm
I took the program and if your attendance is less than 80%, you fail.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: jeremydc808 on September 29, 2014, 02:01:51 pm
What are the  benefits of the program besides the residency factor?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Tony Blair on September 29, 2014, 02:09:24 pm
Learning in Korean, with a non English speaking teacher, with (sometimes) non English speaking class mates creates an immersion I guess.

Also, you get points towards citizenship and future visas (if that's your goal).
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ashe1590 on September 29, 2014, 02:11:23 pm
I would be wanting to use it mainly for learning Korean language - did you find it useful for that?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: thunderlips on September 29, 2014, 03:16:55 pm
I am taking their language programs, but not registered for the KIIP program.

IMHO the classes are great. I am only Level I but the teacher is awesome and it is great to practice with people who are learning together.

I highly recommend the language programs.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: nzer-in-gyeongnam on September 29, 2014, 03:34:43 pm
The topics in the course are kind of interesting.

I've just completed Stage 3, and am currently doing Stage 4. I study online, for 2 hours every weekday in the evening. I am in an 8 to 10pm class, with only 8 other students and the teacher.

The topics we looked at in stage 3 included finances, travel, health, personalities, relationships and more.

In Stage 4, so far, we have looked at dramas and movies, lifestyle and internet, marriage and a couple of other topics.

The classes are in Korean only, and you learn grammar and vocab in Korean. It can be useful to do so, if you've got the Korean to follow it.

When you sit the exam, if you score less than 15 on the test, I believe you start in a 'beginners' class, where you learn the basics of Korean, reading, writing, and all that good stuff. Then you move up. If you test well on the exam, you're put into a level that is appropriate for you.

The placement test itself is a 50minute test with 50 questions of reading and writing, followed by a group speaking test, where you are with 4 others in an interview situation, you read a passage, and answer questions related to the passage and then general questions over a period of approximately 10 to 15 minutes. That's it. You find out your level a week or so later.

The next classes wont commence until March next year, so if you're interested in taking them, you can register for the course at www.socinet.go.kr (there is English available by clicking on the US flag) and following through. You will have to check back at the site to find out when your exam will be, and where, and what you'll need to take with you to the exam room. Don't stress too much about the placement exam, and try not to guess too many questions. The more you guess, the higher chance you have of being put in a class too difficult for you.

Once you finish your stage class, you will have another exam that you sit, and you must score more than 60% to pass the stage. If you don't pass the stage, you may re-take the class. If you do pass the stage, you move on to the next one.

In most cities, the classes are available during the week, during the daytime (not so good for public school teachers), and on weekends. Some classes are split 5-9pm on Saturday and Sunday nights, others are a solid 9-10 hour day every Sunday from 10am to 7 or 8pm.

As others have said above, you must attend 80% minimum to pass the stage. If your attendance is too low, you will be asked to withdraw and reapply for the same stage in the next round of classes. The teachers aren't going to force you to attend classes, but will let you know if your attendance is getting low.

You will learn a LOT of Korean in these classes. I've learned a lot, for sure. I'm using this program for that reason personally, and still study with a tutor on a Saturday as well. Sometimes it's nice to be able to ask someone for a bit of help on the weekend when you are tackling homework, or if you didn't understand a certain structure.

I hope this helps anyone interested in joining. Feel free to ask questions.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on September 29, 2014, 06:24:00 pm
There was a fifth round for the course this year. I was about to sign up for it, but realized that it would likely have the final exam around end Jan/early Feb, when I will be having my vacation (already booked and paid).
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: pigeonfart on September 29, 2014, 09:29:08 pm
lauren...sign up now. Do the course now. As long as you attend 80% of the classes then you can wait as many months as you like to do the final test. You don't have to do the final test immediately after you finish your course. I know people that postponed the final test for similar reasons as yourself. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: furtakk on September 29, 2014, 11:00:37 pm
I finished level 5 last May and finally switched over to the F2 this past summer.

Main benefits:
-ability to get an F-visa (for unmarried students).
-free Korean classes

I found the courses and teachers to be on par with the university programs (I studied at Sogang). But with all things, it depends on the teacher. I had already finished the university program so for me, taking the classes was all about getting points for my visa, and less about the actual lessons.

If you plan on staying in Korea for a few years, I would highly recommend it. Not having to worry about your visa, and the freedom to do whatever you want has been a huge weight off of my shoulders.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ksurfer on September 29, 2014, 11:22:04 pm
There are 5 levels. Completing levels 1-4 will give you 16 points towards and F2-7 residence visa. Level 5 ( Understanding Korean society will give you 10 points.)
Completing the whole course gives you  a total of 26 points

This guy breaks it down

http://www.electrow.com/visa-1/


Levels 1-4 are 100 hours each. Level 5 is 50 hours. The classes depend on which immigration district you reside in.  So if you work in Seoul, but live in Incheon, you take the classes in Incheon. 

The classes are free, but you most likely have to give up your weekends.
Since a majority of the students are Southeast Asian immigrant wives, many of the classes are during the weekdays in the afternoon when you most likely are working.  Therefore you have to take the classes on the weekends, and since there is a limited amount of time to complete the courses, your class will most likely be 9 hours a day on Saturday or Sunday. These were my only choices.

The lessons  are okay, but I find that the teachers are just trying to get through the material.

I am doing this for the F2-7 points visa. In my opinion it’s worth it.


I tested into level 4, and then passed the level 4 test.
I failed the first level 5 test by one point, and am taking the class again.
In my current level 5 class 10 of the 13 students are taking the class for a second or third time.

In level 4 if you fail the test, you have to take the class again, but only once.

If you fail the level 5 test twice, you have to take the class for a third time. However, the third time you do not have to take the test. You only have to attend 80 percent of the classes, and you will complete the entire course.


Its 80 percent of the class you must attend. Otherwise you get kicked out until the next set of classes start.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ashe1590 on September 30, 2014, 07:37:10 am
There are 5 levels. Completing levels 1-4 will give you 16 points towards and F2-7 residence visa. Level 5 ( Understanding Korean society will give you 10 points.)
Completing the whole course gives you  a total of 26 points

This guy breaks it down

http://www.electrow.com/visa-1/


This is very informative. I was wondering what other requirements need to be met before it's worth attempting to apply for the F2 visa. Just curious - does anyone know if the professional experience discussed is related to the field relevant to your degree? Or what constitutes 'professional'  experience? It seems pretty vague in the blog - almost like having any job for more than a year gets you some points.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rowdes on September 30, 2014, 07:39:40 am
I'm really interested in taking this program. Does anyone know if there is a KIIP center in Daegu?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ashe1590 on September 30, 2014, 07:45:03 am
P.S. Thanks for all the information guys, it's great to hear peoples experience and what they enjoyed and didn't enjoy about the programme.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: hiphopopotamus on September 30, 2014, 09:48:55 am
I'm really interested in taking this program. Does anyone know if there is a KIIP center in Daegu?

I'm taking the program in Daegu. There's no "center". It's all done by the immigration office. Classes are held at local universities. Currently, Level 5 is being done at Yeongnam and Keimyung on weekends. Also Gumi Uni and Daegu Uni have classes too at times. First, take the placement test as your first step then you will have access to the class schedules after that.

There are 5 levels. Completing levels 1-4 will give you 16 points towards and F2-7 residence visa. Level 5 ( Understanding Korean society will give you 10 points.)
Completing the whole course gives you  a total of 26 points

This guy breaks it down

http://www.electrow.com/visa-1/


This is very informative. I was wondering what other requirements need to be met before it's worth attempting to apply for the F2 visa. Just curious - does anyone know if the professional experience discussed is related to the field relevant to your degree? Or what constitutes 'professional'  experience? It seems pretty vague in the blog - almost like having any job for more than a year gets you some points.


I'm curious about this as well. I worked for 6 years as a security manager at home before coming to Korea so I'm hoping that will suffice for 5 points for "professional" experience. If anyone else has claimed these points, please share the requirements immigration required in the documentation. Thanks.

Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: robin_teacher on September 30, 2014, 10:36:32 am
Is anyone else having difficulty signing up to the website? I keep getting an error message saying that my ID number and name don't match. I've already experienced some minor confusion in Korea because I have two middle names. I've written my name in as many formats as I can think of  :sad:
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: leabea87 on September 30, 2014, 01:47:12 pm
My last day of Korean classes elsewhere was on Saturday. Sunday was my first day of class/KIIP. 

As others have mentioned, you need to take a placement test. If you choose not to, you'll automatically be placed in level 0. Because I live just outside of Daegu, I took the placement test at Keimyung University on August 8th. It was the only day immigration offered the exam. Anyone interested in the program had to take the exam at the aforementioned site no matter where they currently live in Gyeongbuk and where they plan to take the course. Now, about that placement test. It's hectic! Specifically, the organization or lack thereof, of the various parts of the exam rather than the content of the exam itself, ESPECIALLY the oral part. I wish someone had warned me of this prior. If they had, I might have done better. =(

In my class there are about 15 students. I believe no more than 20 students are allowed in each class. With the exception of four people, everyone is older than me. My classmates are from all over the world: Bangladesh, Brazil, Jamaica, Nepal, Scotland, Syria, and the United States. We're quite the melting pot and I love it! A lot of the older women are here because their husbands are employed here. I believe they're all housewives but don't quote me on that. Some of the men are professors at the local universities. There are also EPIK teachers and TALK scholars in the class as well. KIIP is a great way to meet people from different walks of life in SoKo.

Our instructors command over the English language is okay. However, during the first class, I noticed that she lacks the ability to explain Korean grammar in English, which seems to be the common denominator among us students...(?) Only myself and another young lady were able to understand everything she said in Korean. Some would argue that this is a good thing because it forces students to try harder to understand the instructor. Others would make the argument that it is in fact a Korean language class; and therefore, we should only speak Korean. I'm choosing to look at it as an opportunity for me to get some experience/practice translating. Here's the thing though. What if I wasn't in the class? How would the instructor be able to explain fundamental elements of Korean grammar like 명사,동사,형용사, 빈도부사,etc. if the students don't already possess a basic understanding of them? If you do decide to enroll in KIIP in the spring, my advice to you or anyone else interested in the program would be to make sure you have a basic understanding of Korean grammar just in case you get a teacher that can't thoroughly explain concepts in English.

The best thing about KIIP is that it's free! Other than the structure of the placement test, I've got no complaints. What I listed above was merely an observation.

Good luck with your studies!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ksurfer on October 01, 2014, 11:11:18 pm

This is very informative. I was wondering what other requirements need to be met before it's worth attempting to apply for the F2 visa. Just curious - does anyone know if the professional experience discussed is related to the field relevant to your degree? Or what constitutes 'professional'  experience? It seems pretty vague in the blog - almost like having any job for more than a year gets you some points.



I'm curious about this as well. I worked for 6 years as a security manager at home before coming to Korea so I'm hoping that will suffice for 5 points for "professional" experience. If anyone else has claimed these points, please share the requirements immigration required in the documentation. Thanks.



The extra points criteria section is vague, but here is what I do know.
These points are imperative for a lot of people.

If you want to know more about the professional experience abroad points call 1345.  They said teaching would count.  As far as other work goes, I have no idea.

If you complete 1 semester of a Korean language class at a university in Korea, you will get 1 point regardless of the time or level. You just need the certificate of completion form the university. I called and asked.

You can get 1 point for volunteer work if you volunteer for 50 hours or more at least six different times for at least a year at a recognized public institution.  It must be within a 1-year period. You cannot do 50 hours over 2 years

 Visit your  local자원봉사센터.   I started doing this by teaching English 2 hours a week in a church. However I moved to another city, and then found out I could get a point for my university certificate, as it is no longer all six levels of a university course you need.  The volunteer center will issue a certificate of your hours when you finish.  자원봉가활동 확인서.   You need to log into 1365.go.kr

Volunteering and studying Korean a semester at a Korean university are the easiest ways to get the extra point or two that a lot of people will probably need to get the visa.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: sandwich31 on October 02, 2014, 07:45:21 am
Is anyone else having difficulty signing up to the website? I keep getting an error message saying that my ID number and name don't match. I've already experienced some minor confusion in Korea because I have two middle names. I've written my name in as many formats as I can think of  :sad:

Have you tried entering your name without spaces? I had a similar problem on another website and that worked.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: 24open_yangsan_gukbap on October 02, 2014, 10:01:23 am
I'm signed up to take the placement test in Busan on November 1. IF anyone else is interested in starting, you can probably take the test on that date.

Can you give me some advice on what to expect from it? What kinds of questions do they ask in the oral exam?

I'm also interested in the F-2-7 visa. I have a Master of Education degree, and I'm on my third year here.

Here's a couple other links that are informative. Basically, this guy's whole blog is informative, so dig around a bit:

http://www.keytokorean.com/blog/tech/how-to-register-for-the-free-kiip-korean-class/

http://www.keytokorean.com/resources/kiip/what-to-expect-at-the-kiip-level-test/
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Mashley30 on October 02, 2014, 11:04:02 am
I'm signed up to take the placement test in Busan on November 1. IF anyone else is interested in starting, you can probably take the test on that date.

I thought the last placement test was in August? How can I check if there is more before 2015?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SnackySnack on October 02, 2014, 01:34:42 pm
I'm signed up to take the placement test in Busan on November 1. IF anyone else is interested in starting, you can probably take the test on that date.

I thought the last placement test was in August? How can I check if there is more before 2015?

Mashley you can check with your local immigration office. You can also call 1345 which is the Immigration # for foreigners.

Also, re: days/times of KIIP classes - my class is on Saturdays and Sundays from 9am to 2pm. So there are def many options out there^^
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: aintheROK on October 12, 2014, 05:01:55 pm
Does anybody know if they offer alternative placement test dates??  I am unable to do the upcoming test on 11/1 but definitely don't want to wait until the next round of classes to begin.  I will be calling my local office to ask this week, but just curious if anybody knows if this has been an option previously.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: shostager on October 26, 2014, 07:16:23 pm
How late do they usually decide the locations for the placement tests? I'm scheduled to take one on 11/1, but the website says the evaluation location is "not decided." It's in less than a week; should I be worried?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: CanineKimchi on October 26, 2014, 09:53:17 pm
How late do they usually decide the locations for the placement tests? I'm scheduled to take one on 11/1, but the website says the evaluation location is "not decided." It's in less than a week; should I be worried?

I asked my coteacher to call a couple days ago and they said the location is still not decided. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: sakyibea08 on October 27, 2014, 08:34:31 am
Does anybody know if they offer alternative placement test dates??  I am unable to do the upcoming test on 11/1 but definitely don't want to wait until the next round of classes to begin.  I will be calling my local office to ask this week, but just curious if anybody knows if this has been an option previously.

Hi, did you get any information about this? I don't think I can't make this weekend's test either.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: belo horizonte on October 27, 2014, 09:41:01 am

Does anybody know if they offer alternative placement test dates??  I am unable to do the upcoming test on 11/1 but definitely don't want to wait until the next round of classes to begin.  I will be calling my local office to ask this week, but just curious if anybody knows if this has been an option previously.

If you miss the placement test you can still do the course, you'll just get placed in the lowest level class. I believe they only have one exam date before each round of classes. However, if you can't even make it to the exam then it's very likely that you won't manage to make all of the classes...
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on October 27, 2014, 11:38:39 am


Anyone know when the next round of classes start? or does it vary by area?

Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: 24open_yangsan_gukbap on October 27, 2014, 11:48:16 am
It looks like today is the last day to register. If you haven't done it, try to get it done now.

I sincerely doubt that they will offer alternative testing dates. I had the same problem, because the last test date was during summer vacation, and I was outside the country.

To clarify the last comment, without a placement test score, you can start on Level 0, which is a 15 hour class that starts with hangul and the most basic vocabulary, then you'll go into level 1 after a couple of weeks. If you're confident that your level is higher than that, hold out for the next placement test, which will probably be in late January.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: sunny365 on October 27, 2014, 12:37:55 pm
Is anyone else getting an error message too about no classes avaliable?  Am I doing something wrong? I went to 사회통합프로그램 신청 and filled out the top part to get an error message that says "Social Intergration Program unavailable". ..OTL
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SnackySnack on October 27, 2014, 12:46:11 pm


Anyone know when the next round of classes start? or does it vary by area?

In the Daegu area the next round of classes starts in March. There are also online classes but I believe they also start in March. Classes seem to be roughly 3 months on (Oct, Nov and early December) and 3 months off December, January, Feb) and so on.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: robin_teacher on October 27, 2014, 12:54:24 pm
Is anyone else getting an error message too about no classes avaliable?  Am I doing something wrong? I went to 사회통합프로그램 신청 and filled out the top part to get an error message that says "Social Intergration Program unavailable". ..OTL

I finally got it to accept a variation of my, apparently bloody awkward, name and I'm facing the same message. Guess we missed it.  >:(
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: sunny365 on October 27, 2014, 01:58:24 pm
@robin teacher
Haha TT after wasting all that time trying to register too, apparently it didn't like my name either.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: aintheROK on October 27, 2014, 07:17:05 pm

Does anybody know if they offer alternative placement test dates??  I am unable to do the upcoming test on 11/1 but definitely don't want to wait until the next round of classes to begin.  I will be calling my local office to ask this week, but just curious if anybody knows if this has been an option previously.

If you miss the placement test you can still do the course, you'll just get placed in the lowest level class. I believe they only have one exam date before each round of classes. However, if you can't even make it to the exam then it's very likely that you won't manage to make all of the classes...

Umm excuse me but why in the world would you write that last sentence, making ridiculous assumptions about a stranger on the internet with circumstances you know nothing about? Anyway, it seems there are no alternative testing dates, so will just have to wait until the next round. Thanks for the responses (at least from some of you).
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on October 28, 2014, 02:06:15 pm


I believe you need to take the placement test before classes show up.

FYI locations for the placement test have shown up

Can anyone who's taken the placement care to give an overview? I'd like to place into level 3 if possible and was curious how difficult the test is? (is like topik level 3)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: 24open_yangsan_gukbap on October 28, 2014, 02:16:43 pm
Summer, I have heard that you can enter the KIIP without a level test, but you have to start from Level 0 (which is the 15 hour pre-course, I'm guessing it's like hangul and "안녕하세요"). Level 0 lasts two weeks and then you would go into Level 1 at the beginning of the semester.

Definitely contact your local immigration office and tell them that's what you want to do. I doubt you will be able to see those courses on the "my page-y", but you are eligible to take them.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: shostager on October 28, 2014, 02:28:33 pm
I don't think locations have shown up for all testing areas. I'm in the Chuncheon area, and my location is still undecided...
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: lobotronic on October 28, 2014, 06:39:52 pm
Thanks for the answers. I was hoping to know if there's a class near me before I apply for the placement test or anything. I'm very busy but I'm willing to give up my activities on the weekend if the location is close enough.

Anyone know if there's a class near Geumchon?

Sorry, the only Geumchon I could find was spelled 금천. I don't know if this is correct for you.

I searched on the socinet site, and this came up:

Teacher's name:김진
Contact number: 062-970-0356
Location (where the classes would take place): 전라남도 나주시 금천면 금영로 975
They need a minimum number of students to enrol, so it's not guaranteed that the classes will run. But if they do, this is where they would be held in your area.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: lobotronic on October 28, 2014, 09:51:36 pm
Thanks for the answers. I was hoping to know if there's a class near me before I apply for the placement test or anything. I'm very busy but I'm willing to give up my activities on the weekend if the location is close enough.

Anyone know if there's a class near Geumchon?

Sorry, the only Geumchon I could find was spelled 금천. I don't know if this is correct for you.

I searched on the socinet site, and this came up:

Teacher's name:김진
Contact number: 062-970-0356
Location (where the classes would take place): 전라남도 나주시 금천면 금영로 975
They need a minimum number of students to enrol, so it's not guaranteed that the classes will run. But if they do, this is where they would be held in your area.

Thanks for looking, but I live in 금촌 in 파주. How do you search for locations on the site?

dammit! fail.

Sign up for the site. Then choose the leftmost tab option, "사회통합프로그램". among its drop-down options, go to "전국운영기관현황".

if you search for 파주 the only response is this:

일산다문화교육센터 (governing office)   파주시다문화가족지원센터 (who organizes the classes)   이사숙 (teacher)   031-906-1287   경기도 파주시 중앙로 229 (address of where the classes are held).
Looks like it's where you want! Here's a link to the Naver map: http://tinyurl.com/mohl6bl
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: 24open_yangsan_gukbap on October 29, 2014, 09:55:01 am
I don't think the test would be on a Monday. The last test of 2014 is this Saturday--November 1.

I don't think the 2015 schedule has been announced yet, but if it's like last year, there will be a test in late January and the classes will start in mid February.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Mashley30 on October 29, 2014, 12:01:33 pm
Oh, my bad. I think I saw an old schedule and I used this year's calendar.

I guess I'll either start from Level 0 or wait for the next test. but I can't seem to register for 사회통합프로그램 신청.


Do you have korean coworkers that can help you register?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Mashley30 on October 29, 2014, 12:26:45 pm


Because they may be able help you navigate it better...? Also it's hard for people to help without being there
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Mashley30 on October 29, 2014, 12:47:18 pm

Well good luck! I doubt the page has changed since when I registered two weeks ago
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: BX on October 29, 2014, 02:43:26 pm
I finished the program and wrote about the experience here. Check it out
http://www.electrow.com/visa-1/
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: leabea87 on October 29, 2014, 07:26:31 pm
I'm in the program now. Our last class is on December 6th.  They'll resume sometime in the beginning of March. Check back after the New Year. Best of luck to you!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SnackySnack on October 30, 2014, 10:24:36 am
I'm in the program now. Our last class is on December 6th.  They'll resume sometime in the beginning of March. Check back after the New Year. Best of luck to you!

May I ask what your schedule is like? Is it on the weekend? From what time to what time? Did you originally have a choice of different times at the same location?

I know it'll probably be different for different locations but I'd like to know what the options are, if any.

My class is also on the weekends. Saturday and Sundays from 9am - 2pm each day. This was the only choice (time frame) for this location. There were different times at other locations (including weekday mornings I believe) but they were either too far or at during work hours. Online classes were also available but I prefer the in-class experience. Hope this helps. Good luck!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: nzer-in-gyeongnam on October 30, 2014, 10:29:31 am
The classes will resume in March next year. You can apply for classes at the end of december through January. Just keep checking back to the socinet site to see when you can apply for the placement exam.

I am sitting an exam on November 29th for the stage 4 (Intermediate 2) class, and then can only go onto the final stage starting in March, provided I pass the exam.

From what I've been told, March is the first classes of the year.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: cupoftea on November 03, 2014, 10:59:28 am
I did the placement test on Saturday (1st November). It's fairly straightforward.

First of all, you have to print and take your examination ticket from the website along with your ARC card.

There was a big poster on the front door with all the names of the people taking the test and their room numbers. Just as an aside, if you interested in who takes the classes, out of nearly 100 people, I was the only westerner. The others were nearly all South East Asian women and some men from Nepal and China.

Inside, I was ticked off the list and given a lanyard with a number.

On the desk in the classroom was a sheet of paper with all the KIIP class locations for the province with numbers and addresses, as well as an answer sheet and instructions for filling in the sheet (in Korean).

The answer sheet is a mass of numbers to be deleted as needed. You had to write your ARC number on the left side, choose which test you are taking, A or B, in the middle (The test paper says A or B on the front) and the rest is the 48 multiple choice questions in the test.  On the back of the answer sheet, there are two blank spaces for writing the answers to questions 49 and 50.

The test itself is just like TOPIK. It starts off really easy and gets progressively harder. I've been studying on and off for a year and get mid-range TOPIK level 2 results on practice papers and I found it got tricky after question 10, was basically done by question 15 (out of 50) and only answered 2 or 3 more after that. Overall, it was like doing a TOPIK level 5 or 6 test. Lots of intermediate and advanced level questions. You just have to keep in mind that its a level test and you only have to answer the questions you are able to answer.

The questions themselves are just like TOPIK as well. All multiple choice. Choose the right word to match the picture, particles, grammatical endings, appropriate responses, place in which the conversation is taking place, etc. There are a couple of paragraphs to read and questions to answer about them. It's nearly all reading based. The final two answers had to be written. No listening questions.

The test lasts 50 minutes and afterward we all went to a big room and they wrote the classroom numbers on the board and then 5 candidate numbers next to each. Then called each batch of numbers one by one. This was the speaking test.

We went into a room, all 5of us together, and each read the same paragraph out loud. Then they asked each of us 2 questions each. The first was easy, the second was hard. This took less than 10 minutes in total.

Then we handed in our lanyards and were done. Results one week later.

 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: shostager on November 03, 2014, 11:28:15 am
Namwon's got the procedure right, but it's slightly different if you're in an area with less people taking the test...

There were six of us. So, we just sat wherever we liked in the room, with no one directly next to us of course, and they just walked around, checked our printout and card, and checked us off. Our speaking test was then in threes, with first-come-first-served for the first batch (the ones in a hurry went first, basically).

I don't know why this test is so much more popular in other places, but with fewer people around me, I felt less stressed. (I'm in Gangwondo, btw.)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on November 03, 2014, 11:48:40 am


Yeah I'm around topik level 3 and after question 25 i couldn't do much else
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: 24open_yangsan_gukbap on November 03, 2014, 02:40:23 pm
I have a TOPIK 2 certificate, and I quit guessing after question 28. I think I was pretty good through the first 20 or so. I didn't even try to answer the 2 written questions (#49 and 50).

The oral/speaking test. They put us in a room with 5 test-takers and 2 teachers. Gave us a paragraph to read. It was like "I felt sick on Monday, so I went to the hospital, etc." About 6-8 sentences. Read it aloud, then one of the teachers asks you a few questions. They asked a couple things about you, about your experience, about the reading ("Have you ever been to a traditional Korean wedding?" "Why did the person in the story have to go to the hospital?" "Have you gone to the hospital in Korea? Why?") They kept asking questions until one was too difficult for you to answer.

I took the test at Busan University of Foreign Studies (외대). I saw 2 other Westerners, one of whom I know is a hagwon teacher. There were 40 people in my classroom, and I was the only Westerner. I looked at the roster. 8/40 were Vietnamese women, I'm assuming almost all are married to Korean men. There were a handful of Chinese, both men and women. Several Bangladeshi men, I talked to these guys, they're factory workers for Samsung and Hyundai. They seemed REALLY impressed that I'm a school teacher!

Oh, I have a question about how they score the speaking section. I peeked at my grade sheet, and I had been given a score of 11. I think they're scoring you on 4 different points, and 0-5 on each of them, then average it out. So I'm guessing my overall score would be a 3?

Anyway, I'm hoping they put me in Level 3. That way I could make it through the program in 2015 and hopefully apply for my F-visa before my contract expires next November. We'll see how it goes!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: cupoftea on November 03, 2014, 05:18:37 pm
I think your score on the speaking test is probably as written and not averaged.

On the website, it says if you score 3 or below on the speaking test then your written test result is ignored and you get put straight onto level 0 Korean foundation course for two weeks. Which I guess is learning to read Hanguel.

Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: 24open_yangsan_gukbap on November 04, 2014, 12:07:24 pm
Oooh, that would make sense! Like, you can't even read the sample text without making a ton of mistakes, and you can't answer a simple question about it. That would probably put you around 3 points.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Mashley30 on November 05, 2014, 09:36:39 am
This is a practice test for TOPIK. I am sure you could use it to prepare for this too! 
http://www.naldaramjui.com/TOPIK

I don't think it would be worthwhile to "prepare" for it, other than normal studying you may be doing. There's only maybe 10 questions per korean level, so it's pretty random what you'll end up getting.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ashe1590 on November 05, 2014, 03:31:55 pm
Do the classes start at different times in different provinces?

My level is showing on the 'my page' on the website, but no classes are available for me to pick.  I had someone call to see if/ when the classes are going to start and the answer they gave was February after another test in January... seems a bit stupid to make people sit a test in November then wait for them to join a class in February after the January test. I don't see the logic so find it a little hard to believe we have to wait that long...
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: 24open_yangsan_gukbap on November 07, 2014, 11:28:01 am
Is your test result up from the November 1 test? Mine's not up yet (I'm in Busan).

It might seem stupid, but that's the way it is. There are 3 semesters in a year (Spring, Summer, Fall), and 5 test dates. So those of us who took the November 1 test will have to wait.

My guess is that the Level 0 class will start in late January and the Level 1-4 classes will start in late February. Of course, I'll stand corrected if someone else has better information.

Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Mashley30 on November 07, 2014, 11:52:04 am


Mine aren't up yet.

There's three semesters a year? That's good I was thinking there were only two  8)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: 24open_yangsan_gukbap on November 07, 2014, 08:12:24 pm
Mine posted this afternoon! I got Level 3, which is what I was hoping for since I earned a TOPIK 2 last month. Happy/excited.

And I need to correct myself--there IS a class open to me 11/24-1/30/2015. It's an online class, offered at 2-4pm or 6-8pm. I'm going to skip this one, continue with my self study and language exchanges, and be ready to start the Level 3 class next spring.

For those interested in the online classes, CHECK THEM NOW! They're limited to 9 students, and I'm sure they will fill up before the end of next week!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: 24open_yangsan_gukbap on November 08, 2014, 03:58:34 pm
If you didn't take the test, you have to start with level 0, but you have to go tell them that's your plan.

Contact the immigration office in your city and ask them who runs the KIIP program. You'll probably start in late January or early February.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: anjuly on November 09, 2014, 05:55:12 pm
Mine posted this afternoon! I got Level 3, which is what I was hoping for since I earned a TOPIK 2 last month. Happy/excited.

And I need to correct myself--there IS a class open to me 11/24-1/30/2015. It's an online class, offered at 2-4pm or 6-8pm. I'm going to skip this one, continue with my self study and language exchanges, and be ready to start the Level 3 class next spring.

For those interested in the online classes, CHECK THEM NOW! They're limited to 9 students, and I'm sure they will fill up before the end of next week!

Hi Gukbap! It's just a personal question but I took the test last Sunday and got into Level 4. I just took the TOPIK I in October and I saw that you've already taken TOPIK II. Do you think if the Socinet put me into Level 4, I could also try out for the TOPIK II? I was worried about my level but at this point, I just need to study a bit more and crank out more vocabulary and grammar...
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: lobotronic on November 09, 2014, 06:47:18 pm
Mine posted this afternoon! I got Level 3, which is what I was hoping for since I earned a TOPIK 2 last month. Happy/excited.

And I need to correct myself--there IS a class open to me 11/24-1/30/2015. It's an online class, offered at 2-4pm or 6-8pm. I'm going to skip this one, continue with my self study and language exchanges, and be ready to start the Level 3 class next spring.

For those interested in the online classes, CHECK THEM NOW! They're limited to 9 students, and I'm sure they will fill up before the end of next week!

Hi Gukbap! It's just a personal question but I took the test last Sunday and got into Level 4. I just took the TOPIK I in October and I saw that you've already taken TOPIK II. Do you think if the Socinet put me into Level 4, I could also try out for the TOPIK II? I was worried about my level but at this point, I just need to study a bit more and crank out more vocabulary and grammar...

I got TOPIK 4 this summer, and I just tested into the KIIP level 4 class. It's safe to say you could do the advanced TOPIK and get a level 4 if you prep well. Remember that the Advanced TOPIK now has TWO essays so your writing skill is crucial....practice a lot!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: 24open_yangsan_gukbap on November 10, 2014, 03:09:34 pm
Mine posted this afternoon! I got Level 3, which is what I was hoping for since I earned a TOPIK 2 last month. Happy/excited.

And I need to correct myself--there IS a class open to me 11/24-1/30/2015. It's an online class, offered at 2-4pm or 6-8pm. I'm going to skip this one, continue with my self study and language exchanges, and be ready to start the Level 3 class next spring.

For those interested in the online classes, CHECK THEM NOW! They're limited to 9 students, and I'm sure they will fill up before the end of next week!

Hi Gukbap! It's just a personal question but I took the test last Sunday and got into Level 4. I just took the TOPIK I in October and I saw that you've already taken TOPIK II. Do you think if the Socinet put me into Level 4, I could also try out for the TOPIK II? I was worried about my level but at this point, I just need to study a bit more and crank out more vocabulary and grammar...

Actually, your level is probably a bit higher than mine. I got a TOPIK level 2 certificate--I took the TOPIK I test.

I would say that if you tested into Level 4 of the KIIP, you're probably at about a TOPIK level 3, which is the lowest level of the TOPIK II test. There's definitely nothing to lose (other than the w35,000) for taking the TOPIK. Sign up for it, get some study guides, and see what score you get.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: leaponover on November 11, 2014, 01:33:59 pm
I finished the program and wrote about the experience here. Check it out
http://www.electrow.com/visa-1/

I read your article.  Very helpful thanks, but I do believe that Korean spouses can no longer "drop your sponsorship" for you F-6.  They changed it not too long ago because they didn't want spouses stuck in abusive relationships with the visa hanging over their head.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on January 09, 2015, 10:40:16 pm
I realize now at 11.30pm that it's a bit late for anyone to apply for the next program but the dates for each session's registration have been released, along with the placement test dates.

you can download the document here http://www.socinet.go.kr/FileByteDownload.do?file=/20150102/soci/comm/board/BoardForm.jsp/2015%EB%85%84%EB%8F%84_%EC%82%AC%ED%9A%8C%ED%86%B5%ED%95%A9%ED%94%84%EB%A1%9C%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%A8_%EC%B0%B8%EC%97%AC_%EC%95%88%EB%82%B4.pdf&filePath=/20150102/soci/comm/board/BoardForm.jsp&fileName=2015%EB%85%84%EB%8F%84_%EC%82%AC%ED%9A%8C%ED%86%B5%ED%95%A9%ED%94%84%EB%A1%9C%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%A8_%EC%B0%B8%EC%97%AC_%EC%95%88%EB%82%B4.pdf&programId=bbs&docId=733&fileType=BBS&tableNm=&keyColNm=&keyVal=&blobColNm=&blobCol=&isBlob=multi (http://www.socinet.go.kr/FileByteDownload.do?file=/20150102/soci/comm/board/BoardForm.jsp/2015%EB%85%84%EB%8F%84_%EC%82%AC%ED%9A%8C%ED%86%B5%ED%95%A9%ED%94%84%EB%A1%9C%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%A8_%EC%B0%B8%EC%97%AC_%EC%95%88%EB%82%B4.pdf&filePath=/20150102/soci/comm/board/BoardForm.jsp&fileName=2015%EB%85%84%EB%8F%84_%EC%82%AC%ED%9A%8C%ED%86%B5%ED%95%A9%ED%94%84%EB%A1%9C%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%A8_%EC%B0%B8%EC%97%AC_%EC%95%88%EB%82%B4.pdf&programId=bbs&docId=733&fileType=BBS&tableNm=&keyColNm=&keyVal=&blobColNm=&blobCol=&isBlob=multi)

The next session (2nd round) for sign ups has the placement test on the 28th of March. Registering is from 26th Jan to 20th March (i'm guessing the super short sign-up period for the 1st session is related to the new year and things are never certain until then?  This document wasn't released until very recently either)

Still curious about how many tests you do? From what it looks like in that document, you do one test for KIIP? But the title of the column says basically "Mid-term test" So the placement test is on the 28th of March, and then the test is on 30th of May. Is that the normal length? about 6 to 8 weeks of class? or is that only half of the course?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Fanwarrior on January 10, 2015, 05:04:46 pm
The classes are fairly intensive. If you do it once a week it's like 8 hours or so in one sitting. Internet evening classes are 5 days a week 2 hours a time or 10 hours a week.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SnackySnack on January 11, 2015, 11:36:12 am
For those taking those long, 8+ hour classes, how is it going for you?

I really want to take the course but I'm not sure I can stay in a class for 8 straight hours...



I did the Saturday and Sunday course (9am-2pm each day) There are two breaks: 10 min break and a 20 minute break for lunch. By 1pm I was usually stir crazy. That being said, signing up for so many hours did wonders for my Korean studies. For the first time, I got concepts that had alluded me in other classes/self-study. The intensity is worth the long hours. I am def signing up again in March for Level 2.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SnackySnack on January 11, 2015, 01:45:27 pm
No, sorry Summer. For my area, I don't recall any evening classes after 6pm. The options closest to my house were:  morning classes (10am I think??), online classes and the weekend one that I took. There were classes further away but as I recall they were on the weekends.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: johnny russian on January 11, 2015, 09:00:33 pm
anyone got any more info on the online course? i've made some enquiries in my city and the in-person classes are only during the day during the week. nothing at night nor the weekend. i guess they only want people without jobs who don't contribute in any meaningful way to the economy to integrate into Korean society in my city. go figure.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: CanineKimchi on January 11, 2015, 10:18:39 pm
anyone got any more info on the online course? i've made some enquiries in my city and the in-person classes are only during the day during the week. nothing at night nor the weekend. i guess they only want people without jobs who don't contribute in any meaningful way to the economy to integrate into Korean society in my city. go figure.

I'm taking the online class. It's great. Mon-Fri 4-6pm.

You sign up for the class on the socinet web page. Then they have you download a program that connects you to the virtual classroom with the teacher and the other students. You also need headphones/mic and a webcam. You receive the textbook after a couple of weeks through the mail.

The virtual class is like a regular class. It is entirely in Korean. She explains concepts from the book. She calls on students for answers. You also have conversations with her and the other students. There is usually some light homework everyday. The class is limited to 9 students. In my class there are only 6 students including myself.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: 24open_yangsan_gukbap on January 13, 2015, 12:07:10 pm
Here's the information they posted. Some of the English translations are wrong.

The part that says "2015 Application Period and Application Method" is about the pre-tests. You have to register, take the test, and get your results before you can register for classes.

There is a "Level test" after each level, to be promoted to the next. The "Mid-term test KIIP-KLCT" is actually to pass the Level 4. ***I'm not 100% sure about this. Please correct me if I'm wrong!*** You have to do that before you can go onto the Level 5 "Understanding Korean Society" course, which is only 50 hours, then the "final test KINAT".

The semesters are 10 weeks long, 10 hours a week. That's 2 hours, 5 days a week, or 5 hours, two days on weekends.

I'm still waiting to see what the class schedule will be this year, or when I can register for classes. I emailed my local officer and she said they will be available "at the end of January". I guess all we can do is check the "My Page" a couple of times a week to see if anything has changed.

WILD SPECULATION: I'm guessing that the "mid-term test" dates correspond to the end of the 10-week semesters.

There was an online-only semester that started January 1, so that March 14 date would be their final exam. Then the other dates would be something like this: ~March 21 start, May 30th test, ~May 9-July 11 (I'll guess that this is online-only), ~June 20-August 29, August 1~October 10 (online), ~September 19-November 28.

That would be 3 regular semesters, and 3 online-only semesters, and the 3 Final Test dates would correspond to the 3 regular semesters (because Level 5 is only 50 hours/5 weeks long). We'll see if my guess is close to what they finally announce.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: hibernia on January 13, 2015, 04:03:42 pm
My pre-test is on Saturday, I applied for a specific centre about 2 weeks ago, but my examination ticket still says that the location is not decided.

Anyone else having this problem?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SnackySnack on January 13, 2015, 05:14:44 pm
I had the same experience. Think they posted a few short days before the test. Push come to shove call your local Immigration Office for updates.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: WinterSprings on January 14, 2015, 07:20:12 pm
How are you guys able to apply? Whenever I click the link 사회통합프로그램, it says that it is unavailable. Is January 17th the only day we can take the pretest?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: WinterSprings on January 14, 2015, 10:21:23 pm
How are you guys able to apply? Whenever I click the link 사회통합프로그램, it says that it is unavailable. Is January 17th the only day we can take the pretest?

사회통합프로그램 is the social integration program. Most of the posts on this thread is about the Korean language program that comes before the social integration program. I had the same confusion and posted a lot about how that link stopped working last month. No one here knew why but I figured it out...  The social integration program is not available for registration for the moment.

I'm interested in the language courses as well. From my understanding, I thought I was supposed to hit the button 사회통합프로그램 시청 and then I could see the dates for the pretest as well as the courses. How exactly do I sign up for the pretest because the instructions that were posted aren't clear on that matter.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: WinterSprings on January 14, 2015, 10:27:31 pm
How are you guys able to apply? Whenever I click the link 사회통합프로그램, it says that it is unavailable. Is January 17th the only day we can take the pretest?

사회통합프로그램 is the social integration program. Most of the posts on this thread is about the Korean language program that comes before the social integration program. I had the same confusion and posted a lot about how that link stopped working last month. No one here knew why but I figured it out...  The social integration program is not available for registration for the moment.

I'm interested in the language courses as well. From my understanding, I thought I was supposed to hit the button 사회통합프로그램 시청 and then I could see the dates for the pretest as well as the courses. How exactly do I sign up for the pretest because the instructions that were posted aren't clear on that matter.

Ah nevermind! I figured it out! Unfortunately, the only day listed is the 17th and I will be out of the country then :/
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: cynicalxcharm on January 15, 2015, 12:13:39 pm
Thanks for your answer.

That's really unfortunate... I live close to a place with classes but I live very far from my school so I won't be able to get there until after 6PM on weekdays. And all my friends live in Seoul so I usually hang out with them on the weekend there.

I really want to improve my Korean though  :cry: decisions, decisions

Hi, Summer! I have two answers for you.

1. There are classes available in the evening. I took my level 4 class at Ewha Women's University MWF from 6:30-9:30, 6-10 on Fridays. There are a few locations that offer this time for those who work. Even if you don't see the option at first, they sometimes add more classes a week or so after the initial registration for classes.

2. You should be able to check today or tomorrow for the location of your test. They don't update the location until like a day before, so make sure you print your test registration paper and bring it with you after they update it! If you're in Seoul it's usually at Soongsil University.

If you're not in Seoul, this information might not be accurate for your area. Hope that helped!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: hibernia on January 16, 2015, 04:42:50 pm
Just a quick question... If the test starts at 1pm what time can i expect to be out of there at? I need to arrange a time for something afterwards but i have no idea how long this will take.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Horsey on January 16, 2015, 05:20:34 pm
You'll leave 2:45p.m. - 4:15p.m. My advice is to leave most of the afternoon free!

The written test lasts 50 minutes. Your speaking test time depends on when you registered (first-come-first-served). I was near the end, and had to wait another 2 hours!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: hibernia on January 18, 2015, 03:37:16 pm
Well that was a minor disaster - I guess I'll be getting well acquainted with level 1 pretty soon.

I could answer the first 10 questions of the written test comfortably, and the second 10 with difficulty, I was done after that.

Doing the speaking test in a group of 5 was more intimidating than I expected - the other 4 examinees in my group were Chinese and spoke the shit out of Korean, they read the paragraph in under 10 seconds and gave long and detailed answers to all of the questions. The examiners spoke at breakneck speed and I didn't understand the third and fourth questions at all - I just hazarded a guess based on the answers that the others gave.

However, I got lucky and was called in the second speaking group, so I was out of there by 2:25.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SnackySnack on January 18, 2015, 04:20:41 pm


First of all congrats on completing test day^^  I had a similar experience and was placed in Level 1. I will say you got a hell of a lot further than me on the written exam. I was in the first round of the oral exams. The examiners cut me off as I took foreveeeeer to read the assigned paragraph. Unlike everyone else in my group. Post-exam I went straight downtown Daegu and comforted myself at Boogie Burger. ㅠㅠ
All that being said, KIIP is the best thing that ever happened to my Korean language studies. Level 2 here I come. Fighting!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: coomac on January 19, 2015, 03:30:31 pm
Similar experience as well. I also took this test on Saturday. I saw zero Westerners, lots and lots of South East Asians and Middle Easterners that had no problems with speaking. I was quite surprised when I managed to go up to question 32 (guessed on a couple in the 20s). 

My group of 5 was the very last for speaking at around 3:10. Everyone was pretty nervous by then and even though most were able to answer at least some of the questions, no one in my group did well. I literally couldn't form a sentence, so definitely bombed that part :cry: I just hope my reading and one word answers were enough to get me above a 2.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Lawrence on January 20, 2015, 11:05:43 pm
The reason so many westerners don't do well with the speaking is because we never get to speak Korean. If you are working as a NET, and most of us are, then you spend 8 hours a day speaking English to students and co-workers. The migrant workers, marriage immigrants, etc speak Korean all day because they need it for their jobs, spouse, and children. I think in terms of immigrants NETs have the lowest Korean skills.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SnackySnack on January 20, 2015, 11:14:55 pm
Lawrence you're 100% right. Side note: it's can also be frustrating trying to find a language exchange partner. Well at least one whose English is on par with your Korean. Otherwise, you spend too much time on one language.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: CanineKimchi on January 20, 2015, 11:50:46 pm
Lawrence you're 100% right. Side note: it's can also be frustrating trying to find a language exchange partner. Well at least one whose English is on par with your Korean. Otherwise, you spend too much time on one language.

Why not set a timer and speak Korean half the time, English half the time?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Lawrence on January 21, 2015, 08:10:46 pm
Lawrence you're 100% right. Side note: it's can also be frustrating trying to find a language exchange partner. Well at least one whose English is on par with your Korean. Otherwise, you spend too much time on one language.

You are not the first person to have such a problem. There was a thread about this some time ago. My solution to this issue is to recommend that you visit TTMIK and also check on Youtube for some Korean teachers who have their own channel. Repeat what they say and build up. Also I get the impressions that you are not part of any church because usually a church will have people encouraging you to learn some Korean. If you are religious then join and you can find someone to speak with. If you are not religious then try a language class or program like KIIP (Korean Immigration and Integration Program). Then you can start to look for a language exchange partner but not before you have the vocabulary and grammar. Good luck with that.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: emilprice on January 23, 2015, 12:39:17 pm
Got put in Level 3. Really happy.

Tried to apply for classes but only online ones and weekday ones available right now.

I wouldn't mind doing the online class from 8-10 every night, but its fully applied for.

How often do they update/offer new classes?

Do they offer weekend classes?

What should I do now...? Just check everyday?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: jeremydkelly on January 23, 2015, 02:51:26 pm
Wow Congrats Emil we are all very happy for you, you seem like a real unit. :wink:

I think you should check everyday.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: emilprice on January 23, 2015, 02:59:42 pm
Thanks Jezza. I am indeed a complete unit.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: CanineKimchi on January 23, 2015, 03:21:51 pm
Got put in Level 3.


No easy task
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: joezelchangwon on January 23, 2015, 08:42:58 pm
I also got Level 3. Probably pure luck or so. Haven't been studying for a while but I'm glad I'll be able to hit those Korean books again. I was hoping to apply for the online classes 8-10 pm as well but the class is already full. I have my part time tutorials in the afternoon as well. Plus I can't take the in-person classes 'coz I'll be going back home in March, staying there for a mo. at least. :cry: Hoping to apply for  the online classes again in May or as soon as the second semester starts.  :sad: Any advice? Is it possible to do so? Do I have to re-take the pre-test (level test) again to apply for the second sem./ class or can I just use the result of my pre-test before?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on January 24, 2015, 10:41:47 am
Anyone know if there's a way to check how you did on each portion?  I got a higher level than I was expecting, but when I look at the "Score Table" it just tells me the overall points I scored and my level.  I'm really curious because I felt like I didn't do as well as I'd have liked on the speaking portion. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: nzer-in-gyeongnam on January 24, 2015, 08:31:36 pm
joezelchangwon... you can keep an eye on the website and you may find another class opens... it does happen.

Contact the Immigration center too and ask if they will offer classes at any other times as well
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on January 28, 2015, 10:27:47 am
I see many different books on their website...

- 외국인을 위한 한국어 1, 2 (2007년, 한국외국 어대학교 편)
- 외국인을 위한 한국어 3, 4 (2010년, 한국외국어대학교 편)
- 한국어 초급(1, 2) (2009년, 경희대학교출판국 편)
- 한국어 중급(1, 2) (2009년, 경희대학교출판국 편)
- 여성결혼이민자와 함께하는 한국어 1, 2 (2009년, 국립국어원)
- 사회통합프로그램을 위한 한국어 기초 (2010년, 법무부, 국립국어원, 경희대학교)
- 사회통합프로그램을 위한 한국어 초급(1, 2) (2010년, 법무부, 국립국어원, 경희대학교)
- 사회통합프로그램을 위한 한국어 중급(1, 2) (2010년, 법무부, 국립국어원, 한국외국어대학교)

Which books are you guys using for your class? I guess the teachers get to pick the book they want among this list?

I've seen the 경희대학교 books before and they're kind of bad... what are your thoughts on the textbooks you're using?

You have to go to a different website.  On your class page on SociNet, it should say something like this, "교재 구입 방법 : 온라인 구매(한국이민재단홈페이지http://www.kisf.org) or 운영기관 오프라인 구매(개강일 수업시작 전) 7,000원 (현금만 가능)," in the 과정정보 section.  Then you go to kisf.org and make a separate account.  After that, you log in and go to the middle white square at the bottom of the homepage that says "공지사항" and hit the plus in the upper right hand corner of that.  Then there'll be three options on the left of the new page.  You want the one that says "도서주문판매".  It takes you to a page with the books for each level on it.  They're in order of level.  For example, the green one that says 기초 is Level 0, the orange one that says 초급1 is Level 1, and so on.  Click on it and you'll be taken to a page where you order it.  You can either do that or buy it in person.  I'd recommend buying it online, though, since it's so quick.  I ordered mine on Monday night around 8pm and got it about 15 minutes ago.  Make sure you transfer the money to their account though.  After you reserve the book, you have to go to an ATM or something and transfer the 7,000원 to the account they provide you with.

Sorry for the long-winded explanation.  Hope it helps. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SnackySnack on January 28, 2015, 10:35:31 am
My book was the orange one ~ level 1. I didn't pay for it.  The class was free and came with the book. Are you guys taking the online class? Is that the difference? Actually would love an extra book so I can redo level 1 before level 2 starts so will check out the website. Thanks
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: andymc88 on January 28, 2015, 10:40:11 am
I got put into level 4. Just on the edge of the cutoff - I'm guessing the reading section pulled me up.

So do we need to buy the books or are they free?

I heard last time from one guy who did the online class that he got a phone call and they asked him where to deliver it.. We should get the book before we go to the first class?

P.s. I'm doing weekend classes at 숭실대학교 (pretty sure it's that one..)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on January 28, 2015, 10:44:23 am
My book was the orange one ~ level 1. I didn't pay for it.  The class was free and came with the book. Are you guys taking the online class? Is that the difference? Actually would love an extra book so I can redo level 1 before level 2 starts so will check out the website. Thanks

I'm taking the in-person class.  Does it differ by level and/or location maybe?  I'm taking the level 4 class at the 역삼글로벌빌리지센터.  This is my first time registering for the class, too, so I'm kinda a noob at it. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SnackySnack on January 28, 2015, 10:51:44 am


I'm taking the in-person class.  Does it differ by level and/or location maybe?  I'm taking the level 4 class at the 역삼글로벌빌리지센터.  This is my first time registering for the class, too, so I'm kinda a noob at it.
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Level 4! Respect due ~ praying to the Language gods that's me one day.
To answer your question...In my experience (in Daegu) I showed up the first day of class and was given the textbook. We also got handouts most classes. The class and book were free. You can double check with your local immigration office. My best guess is that the books are made available online in case we want to buy additional materials.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: CanineKimchi on January 28, 2015, 02:48:37 pm
I got put into level 4. Just on the edge of the cutoff - I'm guessing the reading section pulled me up.

So do we need to buy the books or are they free?

I heard last time from one guy who did the online class that he got a phone call and they asked him where to deliver it.. We should get the book before we go to the first class?

P.s. I'm doing weekend classes at 숭실대학교 (pretty sure it's that one..)

I'm finishing the online class this week.

The books were delivered to me and my classmates the second week. They were free.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: andymc88 on January 28, 2015, 03:23:36 pm
I got put into level 4. Just on the edge of the cutoff - I'm guessing the reading section pulled me up.

So do we need to buy the books or are they free?

I heard last time from one guy who did the online class that he got a phone call and they asked him where to deliver it.. We should get the book before we go to the first class?

P.s. I'm doing weekend classes at 숭실대학교 (pretty sure it's that one..)

I'm finishing the online class this week.

The books were delivered to me and my classmates the second week. They were free.


Thanks for letting me know!
So I assume the books for the in-person classes are also free and will be given during the first class?

Cheers
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on January 28, 2015, 03:35:14 pm
I got put into level 4. Just on the edge of the cutoff - I'm guessing the reading section pulled me up.


How do you know you were on the edge of the cutoff? Do you know how much the speaking is worth?

How many points do you need to get to level 2, 3, 4 and so on?

사회통합프로그램 > 과정 및 이수시간 tells you how many points you need to score to get into each level. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: weirdgirlinkorea on January 28, 2015, 05:44:01 pm
Okay, folks, after massive frustration trying to find a job that did want E-2s (and wasn't a crap job), I've decided to go after my F2-7. I've read this entire thread and I can see at one time there was an US flag that you could click on to change to English. Apparently this option is gone. So two questions that I am still not clear on. 1) Do I need to go through the social integration program to get credit for the visa or just the language program? 1a) if I go through the social integration program will I get more points? 2) What do I click to register for the level test? I'm sorry if it's on here and I didn't see it.

Is the site not mac friendly, even just to view things?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on January 28, 2015, 06:28:16 pm
Okay, folks, after massive frustration trying to find a job that did want E-2s (and wasn't a crap job), I've decided to go after my F2-7. I've read this entire thread and I can see at one time there was an US flag that you could click on to change to English. Apparently this option is gone. So two questions that I am still not clear on. 1) Do I need to go through the social integration program to get credit for the visa or just the language program? 1a) if I go through the social integration program will I get more points? 2) What do I click to register for the level test? I'm sorry if it's on here and I didn't see it.

Is the site not mac friendly, even just to view things?

The social integration program and the language program are one in the same, I do believe.  If you complete it (through level 5), you get 10 extra points on the F-2 application.  Also, completing through level 4 of the program is equivalent to a 4 on the TOPIK, but you only get 16 points for that, you get 10 extra points if you take the level 5 class and finish the whole program.  Level 5 in the program doesn't get you any language points, though.  After level 4, you need a TOPIK score. 

As for registration, I don't know when it opens and closes but if you go to 사회통합프로그램 > 사회프로그램 신청 it should let you register.  Registration is closed now (at least when I click on it), but I think it opens up toward the end of the next semester. 

In regards to your Mac compatibility, that might be the case.  I'm using IE on a Windows PC and I have the American flag that I can click to switch over to English. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: weirdgirlinkorea on January 28, 2015, 06:35:37 pm
Thanks, rhchris.

Does anyone know when the next test is? I see they had one last year in March, thought they may have one again then this year. I want to register for it now.

And yup, I opened the site on Firefox, still no flag and when I go to the place you mentioned rhchris, it gives me a no no msg.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: CanineKimchi on January 28, 2015, 09:19:10 pm
Thanks, rhchris.

And yup, I opened the site on Firefox, still no flag and when I go to the place you mentioned rhchris, it gives me a no no msg.

just did it with Firefox

Login --> click Site Map on top right --> click My Page on the right hand side --> the flags will appear
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: CanineKimchi on January 28, 2015, 09:27:37 pm

The social integration program and the language program are one in the same, I do believe.  If you complete it (through level 5), you get 10 extra points on the F-2 application.  Also, completing through level 4 of the program is equivalent to a 4 on the TOPIK, but you only get 16 points for that, you get 10 extra points if you take the level 5 class and finish the whole program.  Level 5 in the program doesn't get you any language points, though.  After level 4, you need a TOPIK score. 


I'm a bit confused by the last sentence. Why do you need a TOPIK score if you get 16 points for completing level 4 and 10 extra points (26 total) for completing the social integration program entirely?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on January 28, 2015, 09:38:50 pm

The social integration program and the language program are one in the same, I do believe.  If you complete it (through level 5), you get 10 extra points on the F-2 application.  Also, completing through level 4 of the program is equivalent to a 4 on the TOPIK, but you only get 16 points for that, you get 10 extra points if you take the level 5 class and finish the whole program.  Level 5 in the program doesn't get you any language points, though.  After level 4, you need a TOPIK score. 


I'm a bit confused by the last sentence. Why do you need a TOPIK score if you get 16 points for completing level 4 and 10 extra points (26 total) for completing the social integration program entirely?

The classes are good for up to level 4, but the TOPIK goes up to level 6, which is worth 20 points on the visa application.  You can get 16 points for level 4, but level 5 and 6 (only achievable via the TOPIK) are 18 and 20 points, respectively.  4 points aren't really that big of a difference, but it could help if you're on the border of the (at least) 80 points you need for the visa.  For example, if you complete the classes (through the the fifth stage) and stop there, you can get a combined 26 points (10 for finishing and 16 for level 4), but if you complete the classes, study more, and achieve level 6 on the TOPIK, you can get a combined 30 points. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: CanineKimchi on January 28, 2015, 09:46:45 pm

The social integration program and the language program are one in the same, I do believe.  If you complete it (through level 5), you get 10 extra points on the F-2 application.  Also, completing through level 4 of the program is equivalent to a 4 on the TOPIK, but you only get 16 points for that, you get 10 extra points if you take the level 5 class and finish the whole program.  Level 5 in the program doesn't get you any language points, though.  After level 4, you need a TOPIK score. 


I'm a bit confused by the last sentence. Why do you need a TOPIK score if you get 16 points for completing level 4 and 10 extra points (26 total) for completing the social integration program entirely?

The classes are good for up to level 4, but the TOPIK goes up to level 6, which is worth 20 points on the visa application.  You can get 16 points for level 4, but level 5 and 6 (only achievable via the TOPIK) are 18 and 20 points, respectively.  4 points aren't really that big of a difference, but it could help if you're on the border of the (at least) 80 points you need for the visa.  For example, if you complete the classes (through the the fifth stage) and stop there, you can get a combined 26 points (10 for finishing and 16 for level 4), but if you complete the classes, study more, and achieve level 6 on the TOPIK, you can get a combined 30 points.

I see now. Thanks for clearing that up.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: weirdgirlinkorea on January 28, 2015, 10:33:26 pm
Nope. Must be a Mac problem. I'll try it out on my work PC.

Anyone know when the next test is?

Thanks, rhchris.

And yup, I opened the site on Firefox, still no flag and when I go to the place you mentioned rhchris, it gives me a no no msg.

just did it with Firefox

Login --> click Site Map on top right --> click My Page on the right hand side --> the flags will appear
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: johnny russian on January 28, 2015, 11:18:44 pm
I've read this entire thread and I can see at one time there was an US flag that you could click on to change to English. Apparently this option is gone.

gotta love it, right? the first part of the program is to teach you korean. but you need to know korean in order to navigate the website to register for the program that teaches you korean.

korean 'logic' at its finest.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: weirdgirlinkorea on January 28, 2015, 11:39:02 pm
Lol@johnnyrussian

Or at least make it as hard as possible to navigate.
And c'mon logic? Just hang that some where else. There's no place for that here...lol
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rowdes on January 29, 2015, 09:25:17 am
I tried signing up for this, but I keep getting rejected. Is it because the registration period is over? Anyone know when the next period will begin?

Thanks!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on January 29, 2015, 09:47:42 am
I tried signing up for this, but I keep getting rejected. Is it because the registration period is over? Anyone know when the next period will begin?

Thanks!

26th of January I believe.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: weirdgirlinkorea on January 29, 2015, 10:46:57 am
Which was 3 days ago. How about the next session? I assuming the next test sign up would begin at least two weeks before the next session? I'd love to sign up for that test.

I tried signing up for this, but I keep getting rejected. Is it because the registration period is over? Anyone know when the next period will begin?

Thanks!

26th of January I believe.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on January 29, 2015, 10:49:17 am
Which was 3 days ago. How about the next session? I assuming the next test sign up would begin at least two weeks before the next session? I'd love to sign up for that test.

I tried signing up for this, but I keep getting rejected. Is it because the registration period is over? Anyone know when the next period will begin?

Thanks!

26th of January I believe.

Yeah that's strange. The document said the 26th of Jan until the 20th of March for signing up for the next round of classes. Maybe they are just delayed? There's still plenty of time for the registration, according to the document so maybe just try again in a bit.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: andymc88 on January 29, 2015, 10:53:48 am

The social integration program and the language program are one in the same, I do believe.  If you complete it (through level 5), you get 10 extra points on the F-2 application.  Also, completing through level 4 of the program is equivalent to a 4 on the TOPIK, but you only get 16 points for that, you get 10 extra points if you take the level 5 class and finish the whole program.  Level 5 in the program doesn't get you any language points, though.  After level 4, you need a TOPIK score. 


I'm a bit confused by the last sentence. Why do you need a TOPIK score if you get 16 points for completing level 4 and 10 extra points (26 total) for completing the social integration program entirely?

The classes are good for up to level 4, but the TOPIK goes up to level 6, which is worth 20 points on the visa application.  You can get 16 points for level 4, but level 5 and 6 (only achievable via the TOPIK) are 18 and 20 points, respectively.  4 points aren't really that big of a difference, but it could help if you're on the border of the (at least) 80 points you need for the visa.  For example, if you complete the classes (through the the fifth stage) and stop there, you can get a combined 26 points (10 for finishing and 16 for level 4), but if you complete the classes, study more, and achieve level 6 on the TOPIK, you can get a combined 30 points.


So... for F2-7 visa application, finishing level 4 of KIIP is just 16 points (as in same as TOPIK level 4) and if you finish level 5 of KIIP you get an extra 10 points?

I read on the points for F2-7 visa, and it just says "participating in KIIP - 10 points"; so participating doesn't just mean doing one class at say level 1/2/3/.
Instead, in order to get the 10 points you need to finish level 5 of KIIP?

Like this?
There are 5 levels. Completing levels 1-4 will give you 16 points towards and F2-7 residence visa. Level 5 ( Understanding Korean society will give you 10 points.)
Completing the whole course gives you  a total of 26 points
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: weirdgirlinkorea on January 29, 2015, 10:55:26 am
Yeah, I can't do anything on the site. I used my work PC both Chrome (which thankfully translates upon request) and explorer and in both cases I cannot turn the site into English (as others have mentioned they could) and even when I choose the right links to sign up for the test it won't let me. Does anyone have a good number to call about enquiring about the tests? I think I am level 2 so I'd rather not just start at 0 because I can't find a way to sign up for the test, as that seems stupid.

Which was 3 days ago. How about the next session? I assuming the next test sign up would begin at least two weeks before the next session? I'd love to sign up for that test.

I tried signing up for this, but I keep getting rejected. Is it because the registration period is over? Anyone know when the next period will begin?

Thanks!

26th of January I believe.

Yeah that's strange. The document said the 26th of Jan until the 20th of March for signing up for the next round of classes. Maybe they are just delayed? There's still plenty of time for the registration, according to the document so maybe just try again in a bit.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: andymc88 on January 29, 2015, 11:00:20 am
I got put into level 4. Just on the edge of the cutoff - I'm guessing the reading section pulled me up.


How do you know you were on the edge of the cutoff? Do you know how much the speaking is worth?

How many points do you need to get to level 2, 3, 4 and so on?


Check here:
http://www.socinet.go.kr/soci/contents/PgmCosCopl.jsp?q_global_menu_id=S_SIP_SUB02

Level 0: less then 3 points overall
Level 1: 3 - 20 points overall
Level 2: 21 - 40 points overall
Level 3: 41 - 60 points overall
Level 4: 61 - 80 points overall
Level 5: 81 - 100 points overall

Overall means written test and speaking test scores combined.
I got low 60s score, so I just made it into level 4.

For written test, I did everything and guessed last 10 Qs.
Speaking test, I could see what the examiners wrote (3).
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on January 29, 2015, 11:55:17 am

The social integration program and the language program are one in the same, I do believe.  If you complete it (through level 5), you get 10 extra points on the F-2 application.  Also, completing through level 4 of the program is equivalent to a 4 on the TOPIK, but you only get 16 points for that, you get 10 extra points if you take the level 5 class and finish the whole program.  Level 5 in the program doesn't get you any language points, though.  After level 4, you need a TOPIK score. 


I'm a bit confused by the last sentence. Why do you need a TOPIK score if you get 16 points for completing level 4 and 10 extra points (26 total) for completing the social integration program entirely?

The classes are good for up to level 4, but the TOPIK goes up to level 6, which is worth 20 points on the visa application.  You can get 16 points for level 4, but level 5 and 6 (only achievable via the TOPIK) are 18 and 20 points, respectively.  4 points aren't really that big of a difference, but it could help if you're on the border of the (at least) 80 points you need for the visa.  For example, if you complete the classes (through the the fifth stage) and stop there, you can get a combined 26 points (10 for finishing and 16 for level 4), but if you complete the classes, study more, and achieve level 6 on the TOPIK, you can get a combined 30 points.


So... for F2-7 visa application, finishing level 4 of KIIP is just 16 points (as in same as TOPIK level 4) and if you finish level 5 of KIIP you get an extra 10 points?

I read on the points for F2-7 visa, and it just says "participating in KIIP - 10 points"; so participating doesn't just mean doing one class at say level 1/2/3/.
Instead, in order to get the 10 points you need to finish level 5 of KIIP?

Like this?
There are 5 levels. Completing levels 1-4 will give you 16 points towards and F2-7 residence visa. Level 5 ( Understanding Korean society will give you 10 points.)
Completing the whole course gives you  a total of 26 points

Precisely.  To get the 10 extra points, you must finish through level 5, which is strictly about culture, so they don't count level 5 as a 5 on the TOPIK. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: CanineKimchi on January 29, 2015, 12:11:45 pm
Nope. Must be a Mac problem. I'll try it out on my work PC.

Anyone know when the next test is?

Thanks, rhchris.

And yup, I opened the site on Firefox, still no flag and when I go to the place you mentioned rhchris, it gives me a no no msg.

just did it with Firefox

Login --> click Site Map on top right --> click My Page on the right hand side --> the flags will appear

I just did it. Again. On my macbook air
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: CanineKimchi on January 29, 2015, 12:14:38 pm
Nope. Must be a Mac problem. I'll try it out on my work PC.

Anyone know when the next test is?

Thanks, rhchris.

And yup, I opened the site on Firefox, still no flag and when I go to the place you mentioned rhchris, it gives me a no no msg.

just did it with Firefox

Login --> click Site Map on top right --> click My Page on the right hand side --> the flags will appear

I just did it. Again. On my macbook air

One more thing. If you're planning on taking the online class the software they use is NOT compatible with macs. So I take the class on my school PCs. You also need a webcam and mic.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: amr65980 on January 29, 2015, 12:54:51 pm
Hey all! For those of you not yet able to register for a course, I found the document that tells when/where/what levels will be available for registration.

On the main page on the left hand side where the announcements are, click on: 2015년 사회통합프로그램 1차 교육등록...

After opening the announcement, you will see a pdf document link at the bottom. It is titled: C_C_C_사회통합프로그램 1차 교육등록(신청) 기간 설정 현황.pdf (388735 Bytes)

(Or you can click on the attachment here at the bottom.)

This document was accessed today, Jan 29, 2015.

I know that I've been frustrated trying to register for my level 2 class and I've been freaking out because my class schedule this semester is incompatible with the times that are offered so far for Daegu. However, there is hope!! Many more classes will be coming available starting 02/02, 02/09, & 2/10 for Daegu. so if you don't see a class that works for you yet, keep checking back next week.  :smiley:
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: jchoi911 on January 29, 2015, 01:31:25 pm
Which was 3 days ago. How about the next session? I assuming the next test sign up would begin at least two weeks before the next session? I'd love to sign up for that test.

I tried signing up for this, but I keep getting rejected. Is it because the registration period is over? Anyone know when the next period will begin?

Thanks!

26th of January I believe.

Yeah that's strange. The document said the 26th of Jan until the 20th of March for signing up for the next round of classes. Maybe they are just delayed? There's still plenty of time for the registration, according to the document so maybe just try again in a bit.

I was finally able to sign up for the site..
The websites wants the password to be in alphabets, numbers, and symbols (!@#$%) and at least 10 letters.

I guess I just missed registering for classes, the next scheduled pre-test is on march 28th,2015 (Busan btw)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: weirdgirlinkorea on January 29, 2015, 01:54:31 pm
Wait, so do you have to create a username and login before you can view the test dates? So if I create a login, and I click on the pretest link, it will work?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: CanineKimchi on January 29, 2015, 02:32:42 pm
Wait, so do you have to create a username and login before you can view the test dates? So if I create a login, and I click on the pretest link, it will work?

and you'll be able to see the American flag
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: weirdgirlinkorea on January 29, 2015, 02:50:53 pm
Yup, just figured that out. I didn't see anyone mentioning that for the just the pretest viewing... :-[

Wait, so do you have to create a username and login before you can view the test dates? So if I create a login, and I click on the pretest link, it will work?

and you'll be able to see the American flag
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: jchoi911 on January 30, 2015, 09:01:21 am
Wait, so do you have to create a username and login before you can view the test dates? So if I create a login, and I click on the pretest link, it will work?

yes, you have to create a username/login

There were no given test dates, just an option box asking you if you want to take the pre-test,
and it automatically schedules you a date, (someone told me there are only 4 pre-tests/ year)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on January 30, 2015, 09:58:27 am

i'm so bitter. i've been checking everyday for new classes and they opened them up on my vacation  >:(
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rowdes on January 30, 2015, 01:08:00 pm
Not sure about you guys but everytime I click on the '사회통합프로그램 신청' tab, I keep getting the Korean message that there is no program to sign up to.

Anyone else having this problem?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: weirdgirlinkorea on January 30, 2015, 01:24:40 pm
rowdes, dumb question but did you create a login?

Anyway, I still can't because it won't accept my password choice no matter what I put in there. Has anyone else had this problem?

Not sure about you guys but everytime I click on the '사회통합프로그램 신청' tab, I keep getting the Korean message that there is no program to sign up to.

Anyone else having this problem?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: jchoi911 on January 30, 2015, 01:32:37 pm
rowdes, dumb question but did you create a login?

Anyway, I still can't because it won't accept my password choice no matter what I put in there. Has anyone else had this problem?

Not sure about you guys but everytime I click on the '사회통합프로그램 신청' tab, I keep getting the Korean message that there is no program to sign up to.

Anyone else having this problem?

I had this problem before as well
You have to make a password that mixes alphabet, numbers, and symbols (!@#$%) and at least 10 letters long
for example,  abcde123!@#
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rowdes on January 30, 2015, 01:39:01 pm
Hi guys, I already have a log in. This message appears after I've logged in and clicked the sign up tab
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: CanineKimchi on January 31, 2015, 11:35:34 pm
For those who have gone through at least one level, what are the midterms and finals like?
Is it fill in the blanks? Essay? Speaking? Multiple choice? What content do they tend to focus on? I'd like to study with a miderm and final in mind.

there is no midterm

A level 2 writing a Korean essay... lol like a monkey on a typewriter
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: CanineKimchi on January 31, 2015, 11:37:44 pm
Not sure about you guys but everytime I click on the '사회통합프로그램 신청' tab, I keep getting the Korean message that there is no program to sign up to.

Anyone else having this problem?

To sign up for classes you log in then 사회통합프로그램 --> 과정신청
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: CanineKimchi on February 01, 2015, 10:40:58 pm
For those who have gone through at least one level, what are the midterms and finals like?
Is it fill in the blanks? Essay? Speaking? Multiple choice? What content do they tend to focus on? I'd like to study with a miderm and final in mind.

there is no midterm

A level 2 writing a Korean essay... lol like a monkey on a typewriter

I'm in level 2 and the teacher said there is a midterm and a final. I'd like to know the specifics of the midterm and final from a student's point of view.

maybe you rubbed her the wrong way?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ashe1590 on February 02, 2015, 08:24:42 am
I'd just like to say this is literally the hardest programme to receive any information on and/ or actually enroll in classes for.

I applied in September/ October and have not even received any information on classes available in my area. It is now February and they are telling me I still have to wait. What the heck?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: zentea on February 03, 2015, 11:46:16 am
Has anyone placed into level 1? How much Korean do you need to know to not get level 0?

When I take my placement test I'll have been studying Korean at a hagwon for 3 months - I'll be just getting read to start Sogang University's 2A book if anyone is familiar with that.

Is level 0 for people that can't read and write or is for people who only know a few things, like me? My vocabulary and grammar skills are very limited.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: hibernia on February 03, 2015, 05:10:42 pm
I applied for an online class (within the time frame ) I was the 6th of 9 applications and I just logged in today to see that I was rejected for the class! wtf?

I can't do any of the other class times because I work a split shift..... :sad:
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: johnny russian on February 03, 2015, 05:21:44 pm
i wanted to do this program mainly for the Korean language component. but after reading everyone's experiences so far, it sounds like a typical Korean disaster zone - no info, and the info you do get is last minute; websites that don't work properly; complete lack of planning and foresight; even trying to the simplest thing results in immense frustration. thanks but no thanks.

i think i'm gonna stay far, far away from this and find some other, less painful way to learn Korean.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: weirdgirlinkorea on February 03, 2015, 05:27:26 pm
0 literally means 0. You know nothing. You probably know more than you think, probably level two if you've already studied. Just take the pretest naturally and don't force it, as others have said, and you'll get your true level.

Has anyone placed into level 1? How much Korean do you need to know to not get level 0?

When I take my placement test I'll have been studying Korean at a hagwon for 3 months - I'll be just getting read to start Sogang University's 2A book if anyone is familiar with that.

Is level 0 for people that can't read and write or is for people who only know a few things, like me? My vocabulary and grammar skills are very limited.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: weirdgirlinkorea on February 03, 2015, 05:32:17 pm
I finally got through, thanks! They really aren't kidding about the symbols. I used a - and that wasn't enough! Lol. Then there was the debacle with my name, took me 35 mins...lol.


So here's a question. Until you have a pretest score, you can't view class schedules?

I tried doing this but was unsuccessful. It doesn't help that the translations are kind of wonky.  :P

rowdes, dumb question but did you create a login?

Anyway, I still can't because it won't accept my password choice no matter what I put in there. Has anyone else had this problem?

Not sure about you guys but everytime I click on the '사회통합프로그램 신청' tab, I keep getting the Korean message that there is no program to sign up to.

Anyone else having this problem?

I had this problem before as well
You have to make a password that mixes alphabet, numbers, and symbols (!@#$%) and at least 10 letters long
for example,  abcde123!@#
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on February 03, 2015, 07:11:21 pm
I applied for an online class (within the time frame ) I was the 6th of 9 applications and I just logged in today to see that I was rejected for the class! wtf?

I can't do any of the other class times because I work a split shift..... :sad:

If I remember correctly, when you apply for the online class, you have to give a reason, right?  Perhaps your reason was deemed "not worthy" for some reason? 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: CanineKimchi on February 03, 2015, 10:55:41 pm
For those who have gone through at least one level, what are the midterms and finals like?
Is it fill in the blanks? Essay? Speaking? Multiple choice? What content do they tend to focus on? I'd like to study with a miderm and final in mind.

there is no midterm

A level 2 writing a Korean essay... lol like a monkey on a typewriter

I'm in level 2 and the teacher said there is a midterm and a final. I'd like to know the specifics of the midterm and final from a student's point of view.

maybe you rubbed her the wrong way?

Hahaha, you think I somehow rubbed her the wrong way so much that she decided to write up a midterm and final for the whole class?

Just because the class changed so that now there's a midterm and final doesn't mean you're wrong. You don't have to somehow blame me for the midterm and final to make up for you giving the wrong information.

A lot of things have changed this year. We now have to pay 20,000W for the class, including the textbook.

If the midterm is new this year then why are you asking people for advice on it?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ashe1590 on February 04, 2015, 07:49:30 am
I got my class info and after all the pain I went through to enroll there is no time slot I would be able to take, and they have told me I need to gain an extra level in order to take a weekend class, but I can't sit the test for another 6 months but it is still not guaranteed there will be a weekend class available if I go through the process again.

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Mashley30 on February 04, 2015, 07:58:12 am
I got my class info and after all the pain I went through to enroll there is no time slot I would be able to take, and they have told me I need to gain an extra level in order to take a weekend class, but I can't sit the test for another 6 months but it is still not guaranteed there will be a weekend class available if I go through the process again.

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

It's kind of crazy. There online classes for my level for the time I can take it, only has 9 people for the whole country. Come on Korea, I know your population count is going down. Let me be a better member of your community.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Hot6^ on February 04, 2015, 08:23:28 am
I got my class info and after all the pain I went through to enroll there is no time slot I would be able to take, and they have told me I need to gain an extra level in order to take a weekend class, but I can't sit the test for another 6 months but it is still not guaranteed there will be a weekend class available if I go through the process again.

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

It's kind of crazy. There online classes for my level for the time I can take it, only has 9 people for the whole country. Come on Korea, I know your population count is going down. Let me be a better member of your community.

Here's the kicker. They don't give a shit about you becoming a part of the community, if fact, its probably what the don't want. This program is just there to show they are excepting of waygooks etc, and make Koreas image towards foreigners look good... it's not actually there to help you.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Horsey on February 04, 2015, 09:48:51 am
I got a level 1 weekend class in Busan, and the teacher called me to register. However, I'm the only student enrolled at the moment,  so I'm slightly concerned the classes will be cancelled!

Anyway level 0 implies you don't know the alphabet well, can't read and have trouble responding to "what's your name", "where are you from" etc.

Level 1 implies you can read slowly and have basic conversations.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Hot6^ on February 04, 2015, 10:41:10 am
Just so people know, if you just want to focus on the language... YMCA Korean English School is accredited by the gov. and those certificates will count towards your points.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ohar94 on February 04, 2015, 11:13:56 am
I'm taking the Level 0 class this Saturday and Sunday (Final day is Sunday).  Does anyone know if they will set me up with the Level 1 class the following week?  Or do I have to wait for the next round of classes to be offered again?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: hiphopopotamus on February 04, 2015, 11:54:10 am
Just so people know, if you just want to focus on the language... YMCA Korean English School is accredited by the gov. and those certificates will count towards your points.

Have you tried this, Hot6? If so, what is required? Just the certificate of completion from YMCA? I have one of these and am just a few points shy, so might be able to use it.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: sejongthefabulous on February 04, 2015, 02:53:29 pm
Just so people know, if you just want to focus on the language... YMCA Korean English School is accredited by the gov. and those certificates will count towards your points.

Have you tried this, Hot6? If so, what is required? Just the certificate of completion from YMCA? I have one of these and am just a few points shy, so might be able to use it.
You can get 1 point for "studying at an accredited Korean language institute in Korea". It doesn't matter which levels or how many, just at least one semester. A semester at KIIP doesn't count as it's not a language institute.

KIIP can earn you language ability points or a TOPIK score can, but not a language institute. Very few people who pass a level 6 at hagwon can actually achieve a topik 6.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: gaelsano on February 04, 2015, 03:59:28 pm
As said this programme is very hard indeed to get information on.

Here's the deal:

It's rolling recruitment. As long as you have a placement level based on positive result from a previous final or a certain score on the placement exam you are able to register for any classes at your level. Classes are created whenever they feel like and DO NOT line up with the testing schedule or anything like that.

Yes, online classes are 9 per level for the whole country and the sports fill up quickly. They do NOT announce upcoming registration periods in advance on main page or on your personal account page. You have to ask around and still you have to check the main site daily.

Level 5 is only 50 hours, not 100 hours because it is just the cultural portion.

I am a TOPIK 4, nearly a 5 and I only got into level 4 on my placement test. It is bizarre and people I spoke with at the national and local levels have indirectly told me they were shocked I didnt get into level 5. The placement test was ridiculously easy for me. The only I could have done so poorly was to bungle up the speaking portion, which I did. The tester did a roll call for the interview and he said my middle name only.  It is possible there was someone with that name as their first name so I responded with my full name and the person grumbled in rude Korean about how I speak in Korean and not in English. I could tell he had it out for me. Imagine being an Italian kid in America, the teacher calls out "Nard", looks at you, then you respond "Leonardo" and then the teacher says you should speak in English, not Italian.

And guess what, you can only take 2 level tests per year, spaced by at least 6 months! So this means I would have to wait until August!

They dont put that information ANYWHERE. Dont take the test blindly. If youre at an intermediate level, put it off for a month or two and study! Your second chance will be six months or more down the line.

Once you have X hours of class completed, you qualify for the mid-term. The mid-terms are administered independently of your courses. The mid-term will be whenever they decide. It is NOT necessarily in the middle of your course. Some courses meet two times a week and take four months; some courses meet four times a week and take two months.

Once you finished a course and hae successfully passed a midterm, you are eligible for a final.

The classes are FAR FAR FAR below where they should be in difficulty. I just started and I just sit there and read my newspapers all class (I read a national progressive/working-class paper, a mainstream/conservative paper, and a local one my professor contributes for. It's great for your hanja vocabulary!)

The books for level four are barely enough to help you pass a level 3 topik, let alone a level four. And my classmates can't string a sentence, can't pronounce anything, and can't differentiate between verbs and adjectives, and they haven't even mastered the past tense. Even though passing this level four course is supposed to be equivalent to a TOPIK 4!

The placement has a NEW rubric. The official website has old data.

0 points or failing the speaking portion: level 0

3-20 points: Level 1

21-40 poiints: Level 2

41-60 points: Level 3

61-80 points: Level 4

81-100 points: language class exemption, level 5 culture class only.

Also, if you want the F visa via points be aware that the requirements have changed and to my knowledge are not available in English. I *was* nearly eligible and became uneligible when they changed the rules, hence I'm taking the class.

Age: 18-24 (20p), 25-29 (23p), 30-34 (25p), 35-39 (23p), 40-44 (20p), 45-50 (18p), 51+ (15p)

Degree: PhD in Korea (40p), PhD (33p), Master's in Korea (34p), Master's (30p), Bacheor's in Korea (29p), Bachelor's (26p). 2yr degree in Korea (25), 2yr degree (23p), high school diploma (15p).

+2p if your highest degree is a STEM degree.* (check the specifics by talking to an immi agent)

+1p if you have a semester at a university-affiliated language school in Korea unless you have a degree in Korea (you can't get credit for taking Korean language classes at a university if you're taking advantage of more points for taking a master's or PhD in Korea.)

Language and culture: TOPIK 6 (20p), TOPIK 6 and KIIP level 5 (30p), TOPIK 5 (18p), TOPIK 5 and KIIP level 5 (28p), TOPIK 4 or KIIP level 4  (16p), KIIP level 5 (26p), TOPIK 3 or KIIP level 3 (14p), TOPIK 2 or KIIP  level 2 (12p), TOPIK 1 or KIIP level 1 (10p)

Completing KIIP level 5 is a plus 10 upon your pre-existing Korean level (your pre-existing level being at least a 4 in the KIIP program and also a TOPIK 5 or 6).

Yearly Pay (based on immediately preceding 12 months): 100 mil (10p) 90 mil (9p) .....less than 2 mil (1p)

Income Taxes (based on last tax record from most recent January, just ask your bank for info): 5 mil won (5p), 4 mil won (4p), 3 mil won (3p), 2 mil won (2p), 1 mil won (1p), less (0p)

Volunteering in Korea: 3 yrs (5p), 2 yrs (3p), 1 yr (1p)
I have no idea how many hours per week are required

Professional experience abroad, full-time, year-round: 3 yrs (5p), 2 yrs (3p), 1 yr (1p),
Substitute teaching, part-time year-round, or full-time seasonal work do not count. I do not know what they define as professional (construction site foreman? y/n? Office secretary? y/n?)

Deductions for visa violations are 1 each. take away yet another point for any violations committed by a spouse or dependent. Take away yet another point if any mistake cost you 200 mil in fines. If you have more than 2 criminal violations on your own record you are not typically eligible.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: gaelsano on February 04, 2015, 04:05:56 pm
2015 dates. (all tests are at 12:30pm at designated local area. Ask your local immigarion office or look online when the date nears) all on saturdays

Pre-tests:
01-17
03-28
05-09
08-08
11-14

Mid-terms:
03-14
05-30
07-11
08-29
10-10
11-28

Finals:
04-18
07-28
10-31

Ignore the "rounds" (eg 1st round, 4th round). The 5th round pre-test is before the 5th round mid-term!

They all operate independently. Think of it as getting merit badges in scouts. You have to collect X badges (X hours of coursework and complete a test) to be eligible for promotion. Certain merit badges are only offered at certain times (eg when is the local police officer available to give free lessons on public safety) but you don't have to do the merit badge activity on basket=weaving on march to be eligible for the april promotion ceremony; just have it done at some point before April.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: hiphopopotamus on February 05, 2015, 08:05:52 am


Language and culture: TOPIK 6 (20p), TOPIK 6 and KIIP level 5 (30p), TOPIK 5 (18p), TOPIK 5 and KIIP level 5 (28p), TOPIK 4 or KIIP level 4  (16p), KIIP level 5 (26p), TOPIK 3 or KIIP level 3 (14p), TOPIK 2 or KIIP  level 2 (12p), TOPIK 1 or KIIP level 1 (10p)

Completing KIIP level 5 is a plus 10 upon your pre-existing Korean level (your pre-existing level being at least a 4 in the KIIP program and also a TOPIK 5 or 6).


Professional experience abroad, full-time, year-round: 3 yrs (5p), 2 yrs (3p), 1 yr (1p),
Substitute teaching, part-time year-round, or full-time seasonal work do not count. I do not know what they define as professional (construction site foreman? y/n? Office secretary? y/n?)

Deductions for visa violations are 1 each. take away yet another point for any violations committed by a spouse or dependent. Take away yet another point if any mistake cost you 200 mil in fines. If you have more than 2 criminal violations on your own record you are not typically eligible.

FYI. From first hand experience at the Daegu Immigration Office I can say that KIIP Level 4 is only worth 15 points (not 16 as specified in the April 2013 point document). There is an immigration internal document which says 15 points for KIIP 4, so they use that. TOPIK 4, however, is indeed 16.

Also, the professional work experience abroad must be related to the current work being done in Korea (this is mentioned in the Korean language of the document, but not mentioned in the English version). Be aware that this experience must be related, if you're trying to get those points.

Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: hibernia on February 06, 2015, 06:33:32 pm
I applied for an online class (within the time frame ) I was the 6th of 9 applications and I just logged in today to see that I was rejected for the class! wtf?

I can't do any of the other class times because I work a split shift..... :sad:

If I remember correctly, when you apply for the online class, you have to give a reason, right?  Perhaps your reason was deemed "not worthy" for some reason?

Yeah my reason was because of my work schedule,  I literally can't do any of the other classes.  I guess maybe people applied with disabilities or small children or whatever so i got bumped.

sucks though
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on February 06, 2015, 08:31:29 pm


Weird. I was able to get in an online class no problem, but I did sign up on the last day so maybe they would take anyone.

Anyway, so far I'm enjoying the online class. I thought I would dislike a videochatting classroom experience, but it's actually less intimidating to practice speaking. We also seem to get more done cause theres less distractions. 10 hours a week though   :lipsrsealed: hope I learn a lot.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: CanineKimchi on February 06, 2015, 09:48:28 pm
For those who have gone through at least one level, what are the midterms and finals like?
Is it fill in the blanks? Essay? Speaking? Multiple choice? What content do they tend to focus on? I'd like to study with a miderm and final in mind.

there is no midterm

A level 2 writing a Korean essay... lol like a monkey on a typewriter

I'm in level 2 and the teacher said there is a midterm and a final. I'd like to know the specifics of the midterm and final from a student's point of view.

maybe you rubbed her the wrong way?

Hahaha, you think I somehow rubbed her the wrong way so much that she decided to write up a midterm and final for the whole class?

Just because the class changed so that now there's a midterm and final doesn't mean you're wrong. You don't have to somehow blame me for the midterm and final to make up for you giving the wrong information.

A lot of things have changed this year. We now have to pay 20,000W for the class, including the textbook.

If the midterm is new this year then why are you asking people for advice on it?

I didn't know that it MAY be a new this year until you said there's no midterm.

It's okay buddy, you don't have to deflect the situation... things changed, you didn't know and gave old information, it's cool. Hopefully you won't have a bad day over it and accuse people of angering their teachers enough for them to make a midterm and final for the entire class like you did me. And then trying to make me seem stupid with your latest post.... I mean... I was trying to make you feel better by saying you weren't technically wrong, you just gave old information. And then you couldn't even figure out that I didn't know that the tests were new until after you said you didn't have tests at level 2 and tried to make my question seem stupid.

I usually ignore your type of posts where the poster makes a little mistake and freaks out and tries to make the person who corrected them an idiot by all means necessary (for example, finding any typo, spelling/grammar mistake, etc.) to make themselves feel better.
But I found out this week that one of my students have leukemia and I'm pretty angry at the world right now. So I'm not my normally polite self lately and I'm not really taking any shit from anyone.

So how about we just move on and stop replying to each other, ok? Let's pretend I never asked a totally normal question and how you insulted me twice to make yourself feel better, ok?

Great. Have a good day.

I shouldn't have spoken in absolute terms. If I could go back, I would say "I recently finished a KIIP class with no midterm."

Based on the quantity and content of your questions, I stand by my statement that you may have rubbed your teacher the wrong way.

Great. Have a good day.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Mashley30 on February 16, 2015, 10:49:16 am


Can anyone confirm/explain the midterm? So we have to take the midterm in order to take the final?

Has there already been sign-ups for the supposed march date for the mid-term?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Mashley30 on February 25, 2015, 02:11:20 pm


So a mid-term test now appears in the 평가신청 section. When I click  "application" I receive "You are not an attendant for midterm test". Anyone have experience with this?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on February 25, 2015, 09:05:55 pm
I called immigration about a similar problem I was having (I'd already "registered for the program" but not the pre-test so i was clicking the wrong link).

They were really helpful and she had some of the best English I've had on the phone in Korea. Didn't need to slow down or modify my language. Every time I call immigration I'm shocked at how easy it is. Just saying that if you try calling them, they might be able to help you better/quicker than here?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ohar94 on March 02, 2015, 12:00:45 pm
I want to ask if anyone has had a similar situation in their KIIP class with terrible classroom etiquette.

In the class I'm attending, I have witnessed multiple examples of poor classroom etiquette:

-Students answering calls and making outgoing calls in the middle of class then continuing to have a full conversation.
-Students watching soccer games on their phones on low volume.
-Students from other classes randomly coming in the class and having conversations with other friends in the middle of class (it's a class of only 20 students so it's very distracting).

The problems listed above are constant and I feel for the teacher because the problem students are adults (over 40) and how do you scold adults? 

I'm wondering if anyone else has a similar situation in their class (I'm in Level 1), or is my class the exception... or maybe that this is the new norm of adult classrooms and I was just unaware of it because I finished university before everyone started getting smartphones?

Any context that others could give might help me be more patient, or embolden  me to try to solve the issues.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: leabea87 on March 02, 2015, 02:02:08 pm
@ohar94 What you described and then some, is exactly what I experienced when I was enrolled in level one. But this past Saturday, I began the level two course and it would appear that said behavior is the norm. As you said, the worst thing about their lack of classroom etiquette is the fact that they're all adults and should know better. At one point during level one, my teacher got fed up and flipped. It was a long time comin' if you ask me. Would you consider staying after class one day and asking the teacher to go over the rules at the beginning of the next class? This way, no one person will feel singled out...
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on March 02, 2015, 02:11:45 pm


My online class is fine. I think it's hard to act distracting in that setting though.

I also think that English speaking countries tend to have a very no nonsense classrooms/meetings/etc. The first meeting with our new principal and people were chatting and looking at their phones when she took the floor.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: haksengs on March 02, 2015, 02:32:27 pm
I want to ask if anyone has had a similar situation in their KIIP class with terrible classroom etiquette...

I don't want to defend their behavior, but maybe offer and explanation.

When I took the pretest, there seemed to be an unexpectedly high number of people from the same country who didn't know how to do a multiple choice test. Even after it was explained, some still marked the wrong paper or marked it incorrectly. There were a few times also when they translated for each other during the speaking part if someone didn't understand. I was a bit surprised, too, but I thought it might be possible that they didn't receive very high education in their home countries and just don't know how to behave in a classroom. Or maybe that behaviour is permissible in their culture. Or maybe they're just rude.

Would you consider staying after class one day and asking the teacher to go over the rules at the beginning of the next class? This way, no one person will feel singled out...

This sounds pretty good to start with.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ohar94 on March 03, 2015, 08:26:14 am
@ leabea87 thanks for the advice, I think that I will say something to my teacher if he doesn't address it this week on his own.

@haksengs I think that you may be right on why they think that it is okay to act that way.  It seems to be the older people in those groups that are acting poorly, and it makes sense that they would be less likely to know better because of lack of opportunity to experience higher education.

I hope that my teacher tries to make them aware that their behavior is not acceptable.  Your responses have given me some patients going into this next week... I just hope that it doesn't get worse... :huh:
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: belo horizonte on March 03, 2015, 09:15:46 am
In my KIIP level 1 class everyone is very well behaved. The majority of the class are teachers though, so they should know how to behave. Must be very difficult having 4 hour lessons with people misbehaving like that.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ohar94 on March 03, 2015, 12:02:41 pm
@belo horizonte It's an 8 hour class :-[, please realize how lucky you are lol
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: shostager on March 04, 2015, 01:42:57 pm
I wasn't able to get into any classes before now, but I'm signed up to take one starting at the end of March.

My question is: What is the minimum number of students necessary for a class? I'm the only one signed up for my class right now, and I know that my previous college, at least, would cancel smaller classes.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on March 04, 2015, 02:19:14 pm
Any veterans able to shed some light on the situation for me, a first timer?  My class started on March 2nd, so I thought it was weird that the midterm test was on March 14th, and the website tells me I'm "not an attendant for midterm test" anyway.  I asked my teacher today and she told me that I don't have to take it, but if I study hard, I can do well on the final and move up to level 5 next time.  Does this sound familiar to anyone?   
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ohar94 on March 06, 2015, 12:44:57 pm
I'm making a memrise vocabulary course for KIIP level 1. 

There are other KIIP memrise courses but I think the books were updated this year so the old memrise courses don't match my class' textbook.

I'm adding the vocabulary list at the end of each chapter.  Feel free to use it and I will add more every week.

http://www.memrise.com/course/582824/kiip-level-1-2015/
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on March 06, 2015, 01:01:00 pm
Any veterans able to shed some light on the situation for me, a first timer?  My class started on March 2nd, so I thought it was weird that the midterm test was on March 14th, and the website tells me I'm "not an attendant for midterm test" anyway.  I asked my teacher today and she told me that I don't have to take it, but if I study hard, I can do well on the final and move up to level 5 next time.  Does this sound familiar to anyone?

What level are you? I was confused by the "mid-term" test but I think it's the test you take to go up to the next level and the "final test" is the test one takes after level 5. My guess is that you can't register for a "mid-term' test until all the hours are filled for you class.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: nzer-in-gyeongnam on March 06, 2015, 01:11:55 pm
If you are in the Level 4 class, you will take a 'Mid-term' test, at the end of your course, at the immigration office (or center where you took your placement exam). If you pass this exam, you will go up to level 5.  If you fail this exam, you will have to repeat level 4.

If you are in the level 4 class, and failed the exam once, and are currently repeating, you will still have to sit the exam, but regardless of your score, you will move to level 5.

The March 14 midterm exam is for students who finished the course at the end of February. Your course started on March 2nd, so you don't need to worry about this exam. Your exam will be in May.

If you are at level 0, 1, 2 or 3 you will sit a test with your teacher at the end of your course, and if you pass, you will move up to the next level. If you fail, you will be asked to resit that level again.

Don't stress the exams on the website for now. You will be told closer to your test/exam when to look into them.

Good luck.

I am currently studying Level 4, and started on February 1st. I studied level 3 last year.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on March 06, 2015, 01:28:01 pm
If you are in the Level 4 class, you will take a 'Mid-term' test, at the end of your course, at the immigration office (or center where you took your placement exam). If you pass this exam, you will go up to level 5.  If you fail this exam, you will have to repeat level 4.

If you are in the level 4 class, and failed the exam once, and are currently repeating, you will still have to sit the exam, but regardless of your score, you will move to level 5.

The March 14 midterm exam is for students who finished the course at the end of February. Your course started on March 2nd, so you don't need to worry about this exam. Your exam will be in May.

If you are at level 0, 1, 2 or 3 you will sit a test with your teacher at the end of your course, and if you pass, you will move up to the next level. If you fail, you will be asked to resit that level again.

Don't stress the exams on the website for now. You will be told closer to your test/exam when to look into them.

Good luck.

I am currently studying Level 4, and started on February 1st. I studied level 3 last year.

Thanks so much.  I currently am in Level 4 as well.  I was worried for nothing then.  Just gotta make sure I get to class for 80 hours at least, so I can take the exam. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: nzer-in-gyeongnam on March 06, 2015, 02:09:51 pm


Thanks so much.  I currently am in Level 4 as well.  I was worried for nothing then.  Just gotta make sure I get to class for 80 hours at least, so I can take the exam.

No worries. Are you currently studying online? Or are you studying at a center? I tried to get into the online class this semester, but the class was full before I could apply. The network was letting some people into their accounts and not letting others in, and those of us who couldn't get in, in time, were told Tough S$@! for online classes. It's really frustrating when I was studying online last year and couldn't continue to do so, as it fits my schedule better. I am stuck attending only 4 hours out of 8, on a Sunday, which concerns me a lot, as I will only make 50% of the classes, but my teacher told me it's okay, she will help me to keep up, as I have a legitimate reason for not making the first half of each Sunday.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on March 06, 2015, 02:17:48 pm


Thanks so much.  I currently am in Level 4 as well.  I was worried for nothing then.  Just gotta make sure I get to class for 80 hours at least, so I can take the exam.

No worries. Are you currently studying online? Or are you studying at a center? I tried to get into the online class this semester, but the class was full before I could apply. The network was letting some people into their accounts and not letting others in, and those of us who couldn't get in, in time, were told Tough S$@! for online classes. It's really frustrating when I was studying online last year and couldn't continue to do so, as it fits my schedule better. I am stuck attending only 4 hours out of 8, on a Sunday, which concerns me a lot, as I will only make 50% of the classes, but my teacher told me it's okay, she will help me to keep up, as I have a legitimate reason for not making the first half of each Sunday.

Unfortunately I was also too late to sign up for the online class.  Luckily there was a center offering morning classes (I work at a hagwon) on MWF 35 minutes, via subway, from my place, so I wasn't too beat up about it.  I think I actually prefer the in-class option.  Being able to interact with people helps me concentrate for some reason. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Mashley30 on March 06, 2015, 02:23:46 pm
bless you for that info

I'm really happy I decided to do these classes even though it was kind of a pain getting to this point. Having classes everyday has really improved my comprehension. I was able to get into an online class but it starts at the end of my workday, so I can just finish it out at my school which is kind of perfect.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: nzer-in-gyeongnam on March 06, 2015, 02:33:29 pm
bless you for that info

I'm really happy I decided to do these classes even it was kind of a pain getting to this point. Having classes everyday has really improved my comprehension. I was able to get into an online class but it start at the end of my workday, so I can just finish it out at my school which is kind of perfect.

I am jealous! I really prefer the online classes! This year, there were only 2 options for Level 4, 10am to 12pm or 8-10pm. I was in the 8-10pm class last year, but couldn't get into it this year. It's frustrating as it was the only one that fits my schedule. (Public school teacher with night classes finishing at 6pm once a week).

Unfortunately I was also too late to sign up for the online class.  Luckily there was a center offering morning classes (I work at a hagwon) on MWF 35 minutes, via subway, from my place, so I wasn't too beat up about it.  I think I actually prefer the in-class option.  Being able to interact with people helps me concentrate for some reason. 

Sounds like you have an ideal situation too! I would love to do more than once a week... I'd have more of a chance of attending every class or at least 94% of the classes. Sadly, with my schedule (hectic and full) I barely make what I am now. I am the only female in my class, and get hit on constantly by a couple of my classmates inspite of being married and them knowing it. Besides these small setbacks, I really like the KIIP program and all its quirks. I've learned a lot so far, and look forward to learning more.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on March 06, 2015, 04:19:17 pm
bless you for that info

I'm really happy I decided to do these classes even it was kind of a pain getting to this point. Having classes everyday has really improved my comprehension. I was able to get into an online class but it start at the end of my workday, so I can just finish it out at my school which is kind of perfect.

I am jealous! I really prefer the online classes! This year, there were only 2 options for Level 4, 10am to 12pm or 8-10pm. I was in the 8-10pm class last year, but couldn't get into it this year. It's frustrating as it was the only one that fits my schedule. (Public school teacher with night classes finishing at 6pm once a week).

Unfortunately I was also too late to sign up for the online class.  Luckily there was a center offering morning classes (I work at a hagwon) on MWF 35 minutes, via subway, from my place, so I wasn't too beat up about it.  I think I actually prefer the in-class option.  Being able to interact with people helps me concentrate for some reason. 

Sounds like you have an ideal situation too! I would love to do more than once a week... I'd have more of a chance of attending every class or at least 94% of the classes. Sadly, with my schedule (hectic and full) I barely make what I am now. I am the only female in my class, and get hit on constantly by a couple of my classmates inspite of being married and them knowing it. Besides these small setbacks, I really like the KIIP program and all its quirks. I've learned a lot so far, and look forward to learning more.

Ouch!  My class is split pretty evenly.  Six females and four males.  If I remember correctly, I'm the only unmarried one.  However, the class does seem like it'll help me as I'm already learning some things that I hadn't previously known. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: WinterSprings on March 06, 2015, 04:29:47 pm
How do you guys feel regarding the difficulty of the course? Do you feel that it is right at your level? Or do you find the course either too difficult or too easy? A friend of mine said that he got placed into the highest level of the course and was learning basic things like present and future tense.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on March 06, 2015, 04:42:38 pm
I got placed in level 2 and it's grammar that I already know; however, there's vocab I didn't know before hand plus my speaking level was probably at this level. So, I'm pretty comfortable with it. The highest level is completely culture discussion no grammar from what I understand, so I think your friend is confused.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on March 06, 2015, 05:29:33 pm
How do you guys feel regarding the difficulty of the course? Do you feel that it is right at your level? Or do you find the course either too difficult or too easy? A friend of mine said that he got placed into the highest level of the course and was learning basic things like present and future tense.

I feel like it's right at my level.  So far, all the grammar is new to me and I know about 60% of the vocabulary.  Being forced to speak is actually doing wonders for my confidence in speaking as well. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rowdes on March 07, 2015, 08:35:05 pm
Hi guys, I have a question:

I have just enrolled for the placement test for the 28th March. Results will come out in April. When should I expect classes to being? (sorry, I can't find the yearly schedule)

Thanks!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: WinterSprings on March 10, 2015, 10:12:48 pm
Thanks for the info folks. I guess my friend was confused. Rowdes I also signed up for the March 28th placement test. There's no info on the site either as to where the placement test will be. Hopefully we will find out soon.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Fanwarrior on March 10, 2015, 11:50:32 pm
Hi guys, I have a question:

I have just enrolled for the placement test for the 28th March. Results will come out in April. When should I expect classes to being? (sorry, I can't find the yearly schedule)

Thanks!

they will start soon after but have slightly different dates. After you are given a level you'll be allowed to choose a class to enroll in depending on your schedule.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: hiphopopotamus on March 16, 2015, 11:53:16 am
Just so people know, if you just want to focus on the language... YMCA Korean English School is accredited by the gov. and those certificates will count towards your points.

Have you tried this, Hot6? If so, what is required? Just the certificate of completion from YMCA? I have one of these and am just a few points shy, so might be able to use it.

UPDATE: I went to Immigration in Daegu on Friday. They will not accept YMCA courses for points. Only university courses. No Korean language hagwons or hakdangs. ㅠㅠ
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: robin_teacher on March 20, 2015, 12:29:47 pm
Anybody get any news on where the March 28th placement test will be? I'm worried my application will never update and I'll have to apply all over again.  :-[
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Mashley30 on March 20, 2015, 12:37:55 pm
I feel like I didn't know until maybe 5 days before (if not less).
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: salkdj1sj on March 21, 2015, 06:11:38 pm
Anybody get any news on where the March 28th placement test will be? I'm worried my application will never update and I'll have to apply all over again.  :-[

They are planning to announce the location on Thursday (26th of March) on the website. On Thursday, look for the public announcement (공지사항)!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Fanwarrior on March 21, 2015, 08:31:27 pm
Anybody get any news on where the March 28th placement test will be? I'm worried my application will never update and I'll have to apply all over again.  :-[

They are planning to announce the location on Thursday (26th of March) on the website. On Thursday, look for the public announcement (공지사항)!
Why don't they make it really exciting and announce it just 15 minutes before the test?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on March 23, 2015, 05:23:08 pm
just got a text message telling me the location for my test and to print out my test ticket.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: salkdj1sj on March 23, 2015, 08:13:21 pm
I got it too!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: NayNay on March 24, 2015, 12:19:23 am
Mine's here too, but... my test ticket doesn't load. Literally, it's been trying for five hours. What do I do?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: robin_teacher on March 24, 2015, 10:48:46 am
NayNay; I noticed I had to click 'yes' and 'install' on about 10 different notifications before it showed me my ticket. Are you using Internet Explorer? Maybe you're blocking pop ups from this site or the security setting is too high?

I finally got my examination ticket! My local level test will take place at 인하대학교.

여러분, 화이팅!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rinjy on March 25, 2015, 02:38:29 pm
I'm trying to register for the placement test for March 28th or any placement test for that matter. I went to
사회통합프로그램 > 사회통합프로그램 신청
Changed it to English and clicked that I wanted to take the placement test. It pops up with an error that says: Social Integration Program unavailable.

Is registration closed? I'm really confused, I just found out about this recently and my mentor teacher is out sick today. But I'd really like to do it and start classes as soon as possible.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: robin_teacher on March 25, 2015, 03:08:21 pm
Registration closed on the 20th rinjy; sorry.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: WinterSprings on March 25, 2015, 04:33:00 pm
I signed up awhile back but I still haven't received any information. Was I suppose to receive a message or email already?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: salkdj1sj on March 25, 2015, 07:32:42 pm
I signed up awhile back but I still haven't received any information. Was I suppose to receive a message or email already?

Yes, you should've received a text message. Log in to the socinet website and check if you have an attendance slip you can print out. That has also the location on it.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: WinterSprings on March 25, 2015, 07:56:07 pm
I signed up awhile back but I still haven't received any information. Was I suppose to receive a message or email already?

Yes, you should've received a text message. Log in to the socinet website and check if you have an attendance slip you can print out. That has also the location on it.

I didn't receive a text message but I saw my ticket online. Thanks :)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on March 28, 2015, 10:54:29 pm
Sat the placement test today. Pretty much what everyone said holds up to being true.

What I didn't appreciate was going into the speaking test as one of 5 people, who all had the exact same 6 or 8 sentence passage in front of them but being the first to have to speak. As in, sit down and 5 seconds later I had to read the passage and answer questions. Which it was easy enough to do, but the fact the third or fourth or fifth person had so much more time to read each sentence and get all the details was not cool. And the 'free questions' which were the same...they had a lot more time to prepare. I got blinded by panic and made up the most stupid answer because when they asked me what was intersting about my life in Korea, I realized the truth of sitting at home and cross-stitching and streaming TV (which i'm happy with) was probably not interesting so ended up looking like an idiot talking about Craft Breweries and how that's interesting and fun to experience.

But Mr 4th and 5th had so much time to think about that.  So note to other test takers, don't be an idiot and sit in the most-left seat (when facing the interviewers).

Also  how hard would it be to give 5 people 5 different passages that were simple enough and similar enough? The passages stay the same for the hundreds of testees, but just in each group you get different ones. I would do that with my own classes if I had this setup.

Anyway, that would be my major complaint (i'd also like them to not let people turn over the passage until their turn) would be my only complaint. Did find the question asking about which note the "pretty" female is on (i.e. 50,000 won) to hit one of my micro-agressions in korea (men getting introduced with qualifications or similar but always women as being 'our pretty [subject name] teacher).

Hoping for a level 3 placement, but expecting a 2.  But that's okay, not really on a time-crunch just want to do the course as way to improve my Korean rather then a path to a visa as I'm already on the way for the spouse visa probably before i'd finish the course.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on March 29, 2015, 03:13:20 am


Sorry you had a rough experience, but it's a placement test. It's not a competition against the other people in the room. That's even how some interviews in Korea work, with other people in the same room.  Besides that's when you know you're good at a language, spontaneity.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rowdes on March 29, 2015, 08:27:00 am
agreed with macteacher.

I found this to be a great experience (first time taking a test in Korea), so I had no complaints about what happened. I mean, who cares if the other students had about 1-2 minutes to prepare their answers. If you were taking this test in order to get into a high level class for your visa requirements, I would understand.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: amandampurcell on March 29, 2015, 03:47:54 pm
I took the placement test yesterday (Sat the 28th), and I'm wondering how long it will take for the results. I checked this whole thread and on the website but I couldn't really see an answer.

Also, when will the classes become available for registration? I want to do it ASAP so I can get the best choice for time and day before it fills up.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on March 29, 2015, 05:13:13 pm
on the test ticket it said 'within seven days'...so sometime soon!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: salkdj1sj on March 29, 2015, 06:39:29 pm
I thought the placement test was really successful (though my expectations weren't really high). I think it will show the test taker's true level because of the varied grammar points and the vocab that differed from beginner to advanced. Well, even the reading part about the Korean election's wasn't that advanced, definitely doable. The only questions I didn't get were really about Korean culture and, so I think the course will be quite enjoyable if I get to learn more about those things.

The speaking exam though. They let the first girl say the whole passage but stopped me after the first sentence. I don't think they are being "mean" or "unfair" for letting other people have more time to read the passage at all because it also tests your level pretty well. The passage was very beginner level, so if you need more time to read it through, you are a beginner. If you can just skim it through and know what it was all about, you're more advanced. Hence "placement test".

Our group was asked first how do we feel about our Korean life. Second question was why are there so many traffic accidents in Korea and its follow-up question was what would you do to decrease it. Third one was have you ever been to the community center in your neighbourhood, if yes, what did you do. The follow-up question to that was how is the community center in your home country.

Again, I thought it was very appropriate because they could easily see the level of Korean comprehension skills, speaking skills (grammar/pronounciation), and knowledge about "everyday" Korean culture.

Also, my ticket says that the results will come out in 7 to 10 days after which you can apply for the courses.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: CanineKimchi on March 29, 2015, 10:37:03 pm
I thought the placement test was really successful (though my expectations weren't really high). I think it will show the test taker's true level because of the varied grammar points and the vocab that differed from beginner to advanced. Well, even the reading part about the Korean election's wasn't that advanced, definitely doable. The only questions I didn't get were really about Korean culture and, so I think the course will be quite enjoyable if I get to learn more about those things.

The speaking exam though. They let the first girl say the whole passage but stopped me after the first sentence. I don't think they are being "mean" or "unfair" for letting other people have more time to read the passage at all because it also tests your level pretty well. The passage was very beginner level, so if you need more time to read it through, you are a beginner. If you can just skim it through and know what it was all about, you're more advanced. Hence "placement test".

Our group was asked first how do we feel about our Korean life. Second question was why are there so many traffic accidents in Korea and its follow-up question was what would you do to decrease it. Third one was have you ever been to the community center in your neighbourhood, if yes, what did you do. The follow-up question to that was how is the community center in your home country.

Again, I thought it was very appropriate because they could easily see the level of Korean comprehension skills, speaking skills (grammar/pronounciation), and knowledge about "everyday" Korean culture.

Also, my ticket says that the results will come out in 7 to 10 days after which you can apply for the courses.

More relevant than my speaking exam questions:

1. Lately Koreans are having less babies. Why?

2. Have you ever been to a Korean hospital? What for?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Fanwarrior on March 29, 2015, 10:46:42 pm
Sat the placement test today. Pretty much what everyone said holds up to being true.

What I didn't appreciate was going into the speaking test as one of 5 people, who all had the exact same 6 or 8 sentence passage in front of them but being the first to have to speak. As in, sit down and 5 seconds later I had to read the passage and answer questions. Which it was easy enough to do, but the fact the third or fourth or fifth person had so much more time to read each sentence and get all the details was not cool. And the 'free questions' which were the same...they had a lot more time to prepare. I got blinded by panic and made up the most stupid answer because when they asked me what was intersting about my life in Korea, I realized the truth of sitting at home and cross-stitching and streaming TV (which i'm happy with) was probably not interesting so ended up looking like an idiot talking about Craft Breweries and how that's interesting and fun to experience.

But Mr 4th and 5th had so much time to think about that.  So note to other test takers, don't be an idiot and sit in the most-left seat (when facing the interviewers).

Also  how hard would it be to give 5 people 5 different passages that were simple enough and similar enough? The passages stay the same for the hundreds of testees, but just in each group you get different ones. I would do that with my own classes if I had this setup.

Anyway, that would be my major complaint (i'd also like them to not let people turn over the passage until their turn) would be my only complaint. Did find the question asking about which note the "pretty" female is on (i.e. 50,000 won) to hit one of my micro-agressions in korea (men getting introduced with qualifications or similar but always women as being 'our pretty [subject name] teacher).

Hoping for a level 3 placement, but expecting a 2.  But that's okay, not really on a time-crunch just want to do the course as way to improve my Korean rather then a path to a visa as I'm already on the way for the spouse visa probably before i'd finish the course.

have you ever considered opening a newsstand?

As noted, it's not a competition. Yes, the first person doesn't really get much time to look over the passage ahead of time, but it's an evaluation of your level. Sometimes you have to speak and think spontaneously. They also don't always start on the left, and sometimes they ask different questions to everyone, only a single question about the text and move on to free questions. If a person is very low level, they don't really get past the first question.

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Does anyone have any idea when the classes will start. I saw on the sheet that L1-4 sign-ups (I think) open May 15th, but do you think there will be online classes with start dates before then?
They shouldn't take that long to start. Results will be out this week and sign-ups for new classes should start pretty soon after that. There would be no reason to have them start classes a month after you got your result.

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Our group was asked first how do we feel about our Korean life. Second question was why are there so many traffic accidents in Korea and its follow-up question was what would you do to decrease it. Third one was have you ever been to the community center in your neighbourhood, if yes, what did you do. The follow-up question to that was how is the community center in your home country.

Again, I thought it was very appropriate because they could easily see the level of Korean comprehension skills, speaking skills (grammar/pronounciation), and knowledge about "everyday" Korean culture.
Those questions didn't make much sense. Most foreigners would never have any reason to go to the 주민센터 in Korea. Before you got citizenship in Korea, the most common reason I could think of that you might need to go there would be if you had a large piece of garbage you needed a tag for to throw away. Beyond that, you can't really do anything there. Even at the gu office, all you can do is change your address. I would have thought there might have been some better questions they could have asked. Like "How do you buy a card to ride the subway" or simulate a phone call to order food, or a store transaction (including asking the staff how to find something) or something along those lines.


Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: robin_teacher on March 30, 2015, 11:38:22 am
The speaking test was by far my worst section. I crumbled under the pressure and ended up producing very little Korean. I realize that that's what society will actually be like, though. Little context, not much time to analyse, background noise and distractions, few prompts. I'm holding out for level 2. I'll be pretty gutted if I score lower than that.

The written exam was an, unintentional I'm sure, test on Korean culture. Considering that they provide lessons for people who can't read 한글 I thought they might provide instructions in a variety of languages but the majority was given in standard-speed Korean. I can't see how a level 0 would even have made it to the venue.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: jchoi911 on March 30, 2015, 12:07:09 pm
 :undecided:

the written test was fair for the most part.. except when they started asking about specific Korean culture questions...not grammar ones. It's like obscure things that don't really come up in normal conversation.

Speaking test was a GONG show. not the test itself..but how it was organized..People (I guess mostly spouses of Korean husbands) kept cutting in line and crowding the doors... the staff weren't doing anything about it. Ended up doing it last.

Reading the passage was easy. The questions asked weren't too difficult.
2 reading comprehension questions. and How's your life in korea?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: robin_teacher on April 03, 2015, 03:27:51 pm
I did better than I thought considering I bombed the speaking test. I got level 2 but I ended up being just a whisker away from level 3. I'm not complaining, I read that level 2 is taught completely in Korean and I could definitely use the practice.

chaset09 Congrats!

Anyone know how long we can expect to wait for a class?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on April 03, 2015, 07:47:16 pm
I got this text message today (Because the level test results are released..level 3 by the skin of my nose i believe).

From what I gather (correct me if I'm wrong), the offline (normal) classes' schedule will be available from the 15th of May in the afternoon for Level 1 to 4. Level 5 will be available from 6th of June.

The online is a little bit earlier (6th of April) but you have to have a good reason (pregnant, too far from workplace, seeking work etc).

I'm pretty sure I'm not reading it wrong, but it seems like a long long way away to just apply? Maybe classes start pretty soon after that? Any insight would be appreciated^^
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Fanwarrior on April 03, 2015, 11:12:41 pm
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The online is a little bit earlier (6th of April) but you have to have a good reason (pregnant, too far from workplace, seeking work etc).
Not really..
it's not quite so restrictive. Most of the classes are morning or just day time. If you work during the day you will have no problem getting into the online classes. They don't really ask for any proof. I helped a friend sign up for them last year, she took pretty much all internet courses and they didn't ask her for anything. They say that to discourage people, to keep them open for those that really need them. The online courses have really small class sizes though, like 9 max, so they fill up really fast.

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Tests results are up. Somehow managed to make it into level 3 (which is really suprising as I have no idea about half of the grammar in level 2). Seems like there are currently no classes open for next term though. I'm thinking were sadly probably going to have to wait for a while . 
Is it possible to get the books anywhere? You seem to know what is in level 2. I wonder if other people in your situation could get the lower level books just to go over before starting their level.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Loudine on April 07, 2015, 10:29:13 am
I live in Gumi, which is a pretty small little country city, and I was able to do lessons on a Sunday for four hours, in lieu of the morning classes.  I think if it was an option in GUmi it should be in most bigger cities, too.
Totally worthwhile, I started on my MA degree so had to take a hiatus, but I'm planning to start back up again during the summer.
Incidentally, even though I totally bombed my test and got level nothing, I was the only one at that level so got bumped into level 1 - I was the only English speaking foreigner so our classes were 100% in Korean, with the teacher occasionally explaining something to me in English when I was completely lost.  With a lot of use of my translator apps I got through it, though.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: jchoi911 on April 07, 2015, 01:32:47 pm
Program offering is pretty disappointing and weak.  Only 2 classes are offered, and both were online courses with 9 people max.
There were more than a hundred people at the Pre-test in Busan..
poor planning...
I think people are willing to pay for the course if it's possible.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chaset09 on April 07, 2015, 01:57:33 pm
I think that for the main session (Which opens registration in May), there will be significantly more classes that open up. As this wasn't one of the main 3 sessions, only a few classes opened this time.

As for grammar, I have no idea how accurate these links are, but this person outlines the grammar in levels 2,3, and 4 which is how I gauged my competancy for level 2.

http://chasingatale.blogspot.kr/2013/08/kiip-level-2-grammar-lesson-links.html
http://chasingatale.blogspot.kr/2013/09/kiip-intermediate-1-grammar-cheat-sheet.html
http://chasingatale.blogspot.kr/2013/10/kiip-level-4-grammar-cheat-sheet.html
 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on April 07, 2015, 02:03:20 pm

While the offering leaves a lot to be desired, it's a rolling program so check back. I think you guys are jumping the gun a little. If you read about the program most things mention it can take 2 years+ to finish (from level 1), with about 2-3 classes a year. Probably faster with good timing, longer with bad luck.

Anyway you pretty much have to be checking often, cause I far as I've witnessed they just kind of show up.  There are main periods to sign up and then some others open up between.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: afheil89 on April 14, 2015, 10:00:47 am
Does anyone know when the course will start for the summer? I signed up for the pre-test and I got May 9 and I'm wondering when the course will be after that.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: afheil89 on April 14, 2015, 10:06:12 am
And on the KIIP profile page, does anyone know what the "deputizing attendance application" button means? or the "vicarious class application" button means?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: WinterSprings on April 17, 2015, 09:10:10 am
Did anyone sign up for the online classes? I signed up but I haven't received any information about the course and it starts in exactly one week.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rowdes on June 03, 2015, 08:53:09 pm
Does anyone have any idea on when we can register for the the next set of classes? I completed the exam back in April and have been waiting ever since for a class.

The KIIP hotline is pretty useless seeing as they only speak Korean.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: MIGHTYMERICAN on June 03, 2015, 09:34:50 pm
If I lived in Korea for 3 years, then left, and will be coming back, will I still meet the requirement of residing in Korea for one year before the one year mark is reached on my second visit if I were to apply for residency? Thanks!

Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on June 03, 2015, 09:38:28 pm
Does anyone have any idea on when we can register for the the next set of classes? I completed the exam back in April and have been waiting ever since for a class.

The KIIP hotline is pretty useless seeing as they only speak Korean.

What exam did you do? The placement test or the final (or mid-term exam) for a level you already were enrolled in?

If it was the placement test, the registration opened (for seoul at least) around the 15th of May and classes started (or will start) around now.

Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: sejongthefabulous on June 03, 2015, 10:11:04 pm
If I lived in Korea for 3 years, then left, and will be coming back, will I still meet the requirement of residing in Korea for one year before the one year mark is reached on my second visit if I were to apply for residency? Thanks!
No
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rowdes on June 04, 2015, 07:40:37 am
@lauren It was the placement test.

When several members on waygook took the placement test back in April, we found out that they barely had any classes for us to apply to (roughly 2 classes for the 100+ people who took the test in my city). There has been no word/contact on when we could apply for the next set of classes.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: afheil89 on June 04, 2015, 07:47:53 am
@rowdes did you go on the website and click on the 'my paigie' and see if any classes were available?  I took the test in may and I was never notified that classes were available, I had to just keep checking the website, then I signed up for one.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: kimchiexpat on June 04, 2015, 09:28:09 am
I have a few questions if someone can help with these? Thanks

Does kiip level 5 really get complete exemption from naturalization written test and interview?

I've registered myself for August placement test. I have passed TOPIK-I (Level 2). I know there is no direct relation between TOPIK and KIIP however can one somehow relate if I can pass KIIP placement test into level 3?

I've heard that if one cannot pass a KIIP level in first attempt, he/she will be promoted to next level after re-taking 100 hours class and exam regardless of result (fail/pass). Is it true?
Same question for level 5. I have heard they have similar policy for level 5 but with 3 attempts instead of 2.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chuckd on June 10, 2015, 02:09:15 pm
I have a few questions if someone can help with these? Thanks

Does kiip level 5 really get complete exemption from naturalization written test and interview?

I've registered myself for August placement test. I have passed TOPIK-I (Level 2). I know there is no direct relation between TOPIK and KIIP however can one somehow relate if I can pass KIIP placement test into level 3?

I've heard that if one cannot pass a KIIP level in first attempt, he/she will be promoted to next level after re-taking 100 hours class and exam regardless of result (fail/pass). Is it true?
Same question for level 5. I have heard they have similar policy for level 5 but with 3 attempts instead of 2.


I passed TOPIK (Level 2) and got took the KIIP placement test and got into Level 3.  As far as failing a KIIP course, if you fail Level 2 or 3 you can retake the course and automatically get bumped up to the next level. I'm not sure about Level 4 or 5.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on June 10, 2015, 05:41:26 pm
All the information you wanted to know about KIIP (maybe!).

This is the document I was given in class last week. It gives information about failing and re-taking (to the previous poster: you have to take Level 5 3 times before they say you completed it)

Also information about tardiness (but not specific -as each location has different timings- about if you turn up anywhere from 8 to 9pm that means you only get  1 hour of the 2.5 hour classes) and leave of absence as well as changing levels (only down) and what happens when you move to a new house in a different immigration office's jurisdiction.

Also gives clear information about the points you get for completing and what visas you will be exempt from proving Korean fluency.

Also you can see the schedule for tests (but not for class periods unfortunately).

Hope this helps dispel any concerns or answers people's questions. It's the document given out  and I grabbed a copy in Korean too.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on June 10, 2015, 05:46:03 pm
oh, the table on the first image is a bit confusing.

My understanding is

The first two rows on the right apply to Levels 1-4  and the last row (about failing and retaking) matches to Level 5. This is based on the different language used for after 'Pass'

Level 1-4 is 'Pass: Level completed'
while
Level 5 is 'Pass: Program completed'
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ksurfer on June 10, 2015, 09:56:47 pm
All the information you wanted to know about KIIP (maybe!).

This is the document I was given in class last week. It gives information about failing and re-taking (to the previous poster: you have to take Level 5 3 times before they say you completed it)

Also information about tardiness (but not specific -as each location has different timings- about if you turn up anywhere from 8 to 9pm that means you only get  1 hour of the 2.5 hour classes) and leave of absence as well as changing levels (only down) and what happens when you move to a new house in a different immigration office's jurisdiction.

Also gives clear information about the points you get for completing and what visas you will be exempt from proving Korean fluency.

Also you can see the schedule for tests (but not for class periods unfortunately).

Hope this helps dispel any concerns or answers people's questions. It's the document given out  and I grabbed a copy in Korean too.

I just got my F2-7 approved at the immigration desk last week. Throughout the entire program, they never gave anyone a guide sheet like that. I could of used that so many times.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: robin_teacher on June 11, 2015, 07:54:31 am
All the information you wanted to know about KIIP (maybe!)

Thank you so much! I've been pulling my hair out trying to get information.
Title: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Program - Free PDF Textbooks - All Levels
Post by: chuckd on June 11, 2015, 08:57:24 am
Free PDF Textbooks for the KIIP Program - These are the actual books used in class for this year.

Look in the description box for the downloads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIYGHLYm4hk


0 ----------- KIIP - Pre-Beginner
Level 1 ----------- KIIP - Beginner 1
Level 2 ----------- KIIP - Beginner 2
Level 3 ----------- KIIP - Intermediate 1
Level 4 ----------- KIIP - Intermediate 2
Level 5 ----------- KIIP - Advanced
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Program - Free PDF Textbooks - All Levels
Post by: nzer-in-gyeongnam on June 11, 2015, 12:28:07 pm
Free PDF Textbooks for the KIIP Program - These are the actual books used in class for this year.

Look in the description box for the downloads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIYGHLYm4hk


0 ----------- KIIP - Pre-Beginner
Level 1 ----------- KIIP - Beginner 1
Level 2 ----------- KIIP - Beginner 2
Level 3 ----------- KIIP - Intermediate 1
Level 4 ----------- KIIP - Intermediate 2
Level 5 ----------- KIIP - Advanced

Except the links in the Youtube description open to a page that says '에러남' and that's it. They are empty besides that. Would love to see the Level 5 book. I start level 5 shortly.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: kamikazely on June 11, 2015, 01:04:43 pm
All 5 links worked for me. I used chrome, and clicking a link downloaded a pdf file of the book.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chuckd on June 11, 2015, 01:15:08 pm
Yeah. They're all there. You might have to give it some time then try the link again. I experienced the same thing before.
Title: 2015 KIIP - Level 3 & 4 (중급 1 & 2) - VOCABULARY & TEXTBOOKS
Post by: chuckd on June 22, 2015, 09:25:16 am
Level 3 (중급 1 VOCABULARY) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSGdVOzwlMY

Level 4 (중급 2 VOCABULARY) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIYGHLYm4hk

Level 5 (VOCABULARY) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03rYKM2DXy4

Look in the description box for all the textbook downloads.

Level 0 ----------- KIIP - Pre-Beginner
Level 1 ----------- KIIP - Beginner 1
Level 2 ----------- KIIP - Beginner 2
Level 3 ----------- KIIP - Intermediate 1
Level 4 ----------- KIIP - Intermediate 2
Level 5 ----------- KIIP - Advanced
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: CliffK on June 22, 2015, 11:55:56 am
They worked for me. Thank you very much for posting these!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: friendofcletus on June 22, 2015, 02:49:19 pm
Any place to download the audio files as well?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on June 23, 2015, 10:41:52 am
Thank you for pointing us to these files. It's useful if you are in between levels or having to wait a few months between getting your placement and your class starting.

Also, useful for me if for some reason I can't have my book in class on a random night, at least I can pull these up on my phone (galaxy note, so it's just passable for viewing size).
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chuckd on June 24, 2015, 12:15:17 pm
No problem! You are absolutely right.

As for me, I like to have the translations next to the words in my book. It's going to take a while to write everything down but it's well worth it :azn:

Thank you for pointing us to these files. It's useful if you are in between levels or having to wait a few months between getting your placement and your class starting.

Also, useful for me if for some reason I can't have my book in class on a random night, at least I can pull these up on my phone (galaxy note, so it's just passable for viewing size).
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chuckd on June 24, 2015, 12:23:29 pm
Couldn't find the audio files :sad:

The scripts are in the back of the book. One option would be to visit a big bookstore near you and purchase the book for 7,000 won. If they don't have it they can probably order it.

I'll continue to search for them online :azn:

Any place to download the audio files as well?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on July 05, 2015, 05:00:25 pm


Has anyone started the online class recently? Mine starts on Monday and I can't figure out where to download the program. It seems like they changed the website from what I used last class.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on July 05, 2015, 05:10:39 pm


Has anyone started the online class recently? Mine starts on Monday and I can't figure out where to download the program. It seems like they changed the website from what I used last class.

The site I was given is: kiipedu.svc.saeha.c om/
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on July 05, 2015, 05:30:38 pm


Has anyone started the online class recently? Mine starts on Monday and I can't figure out where to download the program. It seems like they changed the website from what I used last class.

The site I was given is: kiipedu.svc.saeha.c om/

yeah, i think i got the program downloaded. there isn't any where to sign in with the program, but i guess i'll find out tomorrow if it works.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: hodge on August 09, 2015, 11:05:16 pm
Audio Links for Level 3 and 4 here.
Level 3
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B41K0o5WDGuzfjVDaXAtZS05aTRnMWJ0a0tlbDZrV2NHVVFMTW1NQVktaUlmOHZlMHdpcDQ

Level 4
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3BLpfPNzwu2flI5RXZDWnJ1RmJ0RWRhb2VEeER0cnNOeE11T2RObVVFeGJkTi0tQUpGVzg&usp=sharing
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rowdes on August 10, 2015, 07:47:40 am
Does anyone know when the next round of classes will commence?

thanks.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chuckd on August 10, 2015, 10:54:51 am
Does anyone know when the next round of classes will commence?

thanks.



Check out this link for schedule and information ^^
http://keytokorean.com/kiip-%EC%82%AC%ED%9A%8C%ED%86%B5%ED%95%A9%ED%94%84%EB%A1%9C%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%A8-schedule-and-information/
Title: F-2 VISA - Updated 2015 Point System!
Post by: chuckd on August 10, 2015, 11:00:37 am
F-2 VISA - Updated 2015 Point System

English Version: 07.20 KIIP Update
Korean Version: 07.20 KIIP Update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIYGHLYm4hk

* Look in the description box for all the files ^^
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: irfanlhr on August 17, 2015, 08:15:00 am
Thanks everyone for all these helping posts. I am going to register for Level 3 online classes (14-Sep-2015 to 25-Nov-2015). But mid-term exam is on 28-Nov-2015. Normally every KIIP exam registeration deadline is 8 days before exam (so 20-Nov-2015 in this case). Would it be possible to register for said exam while still a few classes are left? Or I have to wait for March exam?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on August 17, 2015, 08:56:14 am
Thanks everyone for all these helping posts. I am going to register for Level 3 online classes (14-Sep-2015 to 25-Nov-2015). But mid-term exam is on 28-Nov-2015. Normally every KIIP exam registeration deadline is 8 days before exam (so 20-Nov-2015 in this case). Would it be possible to register for said exam while still a few classes are left? Or I have to wait for March exam?

If I recall correctly, it doesn't matter how many classes are left, it matters if you've reached the amount of hours you need.  For the 100 hour courses, you need 80 hours to be eligible for the exam.  Once you reach 80 hours you should be able to register. 

I was in a similar situation with Level 4, as all my classmates had already registered for the exam, but since I took a Jeju vacation and waking up early is hard, I missed a bunch of classes.  Once I reached 80 hours, I was able to register. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: irfanlhr on August 17, 2015, 09:23:49 am
Thanks everyone for all these helping posts. I am going to register for Level 3 online classes (14-Sep-2015 to 25-Nov-2015). But mid-term exam is on 28-Nov-2015. Normally every KIIP exam registeration deadline is 8 days before exam (so 20-Nov-2015 in this case). Would it be possible to register for said exam while still a few classes are left? Or I have to wait for March exam?

If I recall correctly, it doesn't matter how many classes are left, it matters if you've reached the amount of hours you need.  For the 100 hour courses, you need 80 hours to be eligible for the exam.  Once you reach 80 hours you should be able to register. 

I was in a similar situation with Level 4, as all my classmates had already registered for the exam, but since I took a Jeju vacation and waking up early is hard, I missed a bunch of classes.  Once I reached 80 hours, I was able to register.

Thanks Chris for quick response!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: irfanlhr on August 17, 2015, 11:13:04 am
Another question! Do you physically have to be in Korea for attending online classes? During my online KIIP classes, I am visiting my hometown for 3 weeks.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on August 17, 2015, 11:21:35 am
Another question! Do you physically have to be in Korea for attending online classes? During my online KIIP classes, I am visiting my hometown for 3 weeks.

I'm pretty sure you don't have to be as long as you have reliable internet.  One of my classmates today was visiting her family in her home country.  Her internet wasn't that great though and kept cutting in and out, so the teacher said, "If you are in another country, just skip class." 

TL;DR You'll be fine as long as you don't have crappy internet. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on August 17, 2015, 06:17:14 pm
Another question! Do you physically have to be in Korea for attending online classes? During my online KIIP classes, I am visiting my hometown for 3 weeks.

I'm pretty sure you don't have to be as long as you have reliable internet.  One of my classmates today was visiting her family in her home country.  Her internet wasn't that great though and kept cutting in and out, so the teacher said, "If you are in another country, just skip class." 

TL;DR You'll be fine as long as you don't have crappy internet.

just to add. My teacher was asked this and she said that it shouldn't work as they have measures in place to stop that (?) It would make sense to base it on IP address or something so that the Korean government isn't potentially having people sign up at the beginning then go home for a few months? My teacher was pretty adamant about not being able to- but she could just be toe-ing the company line? (or maybe the person had a vpn or something, which would explain the poor internet?)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: warren_king on August 19, 2015, 09:45:21 am
Check out this link for schedule and information ^^
http://keytokorean.com/kiip-%EC%82%AC%ED%9A%8C%ED%86%B5%ED%95%A9%ED%94%84%EB%A1%9C%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%A8-schedule-and-information/

I'm a bit confused about something, would really appreciate if anyone can help here.

I signed up during the Period 4 registration period according to the link above. However, I missed the level test as it was the same day I was leaving for vacation (flights had been booked ages ago and couldn't be changed).

I see from that link that there's a Period 5, with a pre-test that I'll be able to take on the 14th of November. But when I go to Socinet there's no option to print a level test ticket. I looked at that link above and followed the instructions on a PPT I got from there but it looks like the site has changed a little bit.

Anyone know what's going on? Am I getting problems now because I signed up during the Period 4 registration period and didn't apply for the level test?

Co-teacher is away in New Zealand so don't really have anyone to help me here at the mo.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: nzer-in-gyeongnam on August 19, 2015, 01:45:03 pm
Check out this link for schedule and information ^^
http://keytokorean.com/kiip-%EC%82%AC%ED%9A%8C%ED%86%B5%ED%95%A9%ED%94%84%EB%A1%9C%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%A8-schedule-and-information/

I'm a bit confused about something, would really appreciate if anyone can help here.

I signed up during the Period 4 registration period according to the link above. However, I missed the level test as it was the same day I was leaving for vacation (flights had been booked ages ago and couldn't be changed).

I see from that link that there's a Period 5, with a pre-test that I'll be able to take on the 14th of November. But when I go to Socinet there's no option to print a level test ticket. I looked at that link above and followed the instructions on a PPT I got from there but it looks like the site has changed a little bit.

Anyone know what's going on? Am I getting problems now because I signed up during the Period 4 registration period and didn't apply for the level test?

Co-teacher is away in New Zealand so don't really have anyone to help me here at the mo.

If you can't get any concrete answers here, then you can try calling the Immigration office and ask to speak to someone who can answer questions about the KIIP program.

However, if you signed up and already printed a ticket, but didn't sit the exam or failed the exam, then usually you are placed into level 0. Which province are you based in? Someone may be able to provide you a phone number to contact to ask questions about the program as well.

Do you have only 1 co-teacher? If not, ask another one, or perhaps a Korean friend to call for you if you don't have the confidence to call yourself [many of us don't].

If you only sit the pre-test in November, then you will most likely begin lessons next year in March.

Another question! Do you physically have to be in Korea for attending online classes? During my online KIIP classes, I am visiting my hometown for 3 weeks.

I believe you should be in Korea for the online classes, and keep in mind that each class is 2 hours in length, and held every day, so you would be missing 30 hours of classes if you are away for 3 weeks. The minimum attendance requirement is 80/100 hours, and so if you are away for 3 weeks, you would need to prove that you are keeping up with the class, and perhaps ask the teacher to assign you homework to email back to them to keep your attendance count high enough to pass the level. One of my online classmates had to do that as he was going to be arriving in Korea 3 weeks into the classes, and needed to prove he was studying and keeping up with us while he was out of the country on business.

Good luck to anyone who is beginning their adventures in the KIIP program. It's a fun course to do, but a lot of work. I highly recommend looking at investing in Korean Grammar In Use (beginner, intermediate and advanced) books.(http://item2.gmarket.co.kr/English/detailview/item.aspx?goodscode=561833883)  They are AMAZING and explain the grammar points much easier and in English and Korean, so you can understand exactly why and how you use each structure.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: warren_king on August 19, 2015, 02:01:06 pm
the thing is, I never printed a test ticket or even registered for the level test knowing i wouldn't be able to sit it. all i did was register for the KIIP program, i.e., on socinet. but the time in which i registered was during the Period 4 registration period.

Level 0 will be way too easy for me. I've already completed a beginner's level Korean course through a university. it was only 24 class hours in total, so I'm pretty sure I would be Level 1 of KIIP.

I might try get my other co-teacher to call them and find out what's going on. I'm not even sure if there'll be enough people this semester for them to hold a Level 1 class since I live in a small city and most people do Level 1 in 1st semester it seems. they even told me that when my co-teacher phoned last semester. so, I may have to wait until next year anyway to do it. I doubt i'd test into Level 2, and i've had a look at the materials and that level would be way too difficult for me.

anyway, thanks for the help ^^
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: irfanlhr on August 20, 2015, 03:29:33 pm
Thanks enzr....but I dont know if this homework thing will work. I have heard that immigration office is very strict about attendence. Even they do surprise visit to offline classes. Therefore I am thinking to subscribe korea-based vpn (flyvpn) coupled with fast and reliable internet. I hope this will work outside of Korea. It would be nice to know from someone who has taken online KIIP classes outside of Korea without any problem.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on August 31, 2015, 04:16:29 pm
Thanks enzr....but I dont know if this homework thing will work. I have heard that immigration office is very strict about attendence. Even they do surprise visit to offline classes. Therefore I am thinking to subscribe korea-based vpn (flyvpn) coupled with fast and reliable internet. I hope this will work outside of Korea. It would be nice to know from someone who has taken online KIIP classes outside of Korea without any problem.

Everyone in my class, including myself, has missed several classes and we only meet once a week. However, its very small and my teacher is chill. I usually talk to her about it if I have to miss class and do the work for that week on my own. I don't recommend missing classes if avoidable, but I think it depends on your teacher if you can get away with it or not.

Not to argue against tofusquare, just a heads up for anyone reading this who is new to the program. the official line is that you have to attend 80 out of 100 hours (for levels 1 to 4), so you can only miss 20 hours of class before you fail. That does depend on your teacher logging your hours in the system, so yeah, that is up to the teacher.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: oceancloud on August 31, 2015, 04:30:34 pm
I could imagine the teacher logging the students as having had attended if there was an incentive such as being paid based on attending students.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: robin_teacher on September 01, 2015, 08:05:41 am
I just completed Beginner 2 and attendance was very strictly logged; anything below 80% was an instant 'fail'. I also had to change course to one running a week later to ensure I'd be in the country for the final exam. If you can't make your class's assigned final date it's also an instant 'fail'.

If you fail you need to do the same course again. I was told by my teacher that if you want to redo the placement test you have to wait 6 months from the last class you attended or your last placement test (whichever was latest).

If you don't think you can make up 80% of the hours it's probably not worth your time. It's a big time commitment and nobody really wants to do the same course twice. I managed to switch courses to one where I could make the 80% minimum but only because the class I wanted started one week later so I had a brief window to figure all this out.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: afheil89 on September 01, 2015, 09:25:40 am
I just completed Beginner 2 and attendance was very strictly logged; anything below 80% was an instant 'fail'. I also had to change course to one running a week later to ensure I'd be in the country for the final exam. If you can't make your class's assigned final date it's also an instant 'fail'.

If you fail you need to do the same course again. I was told by my teacher that if you want to redo the placement test you have to wait 6 months from the last class you attended or your last placement test (whichever was latest).

If you don't think you can make up 80% of the hours it's probably not worth your time. It's a big time commitment and nobody really wants to do the same course twice. I managed to switch courses to one where I could make the 80% minimum but only because the class I wanted started one week later so I had a brief window to figure all this out.

Not completely true. I took the final exam on a wednesday with another class instead of on the friday I was supposed to take it on. So just 2 days early, so depends on how much of the final week you'll miss i supposed, but if you talk to your teacher about the final exam you can probably get it worked out.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: robin_teacher on September 01, 2015, 09:50:27 am
I just completed Beginner 2 and attendance was very strictly logged; anything below 80% was an instant 'fail'. I also had to change course to one running a week later to ensure I'd be in the country for the final exam. If you can't make your class's assigned final date it's also an instant 'fail'.

If you fail you need to do the same course again. I was told by my teacher that if you want to redo the placement test you have to wait 6 months from the last class you attended or your last placement test (whichever was latest).

If you don't think you can make up 80% of the hours it's probably not worth your time. It's a big time commitment and nobody really wants to do the same course twice. I managed to switch courses to one where I could make the 80% minimum but only because the class I wanted started one week later so I had a brief window to figure all this out.

Not completely true. I took the final exam on a wednesday with another class instead of on the friday I was supposed to take it on. So just 2 days early, so depends on how much of the final week you'll miss i supposed, but if you talk to your teacher about the final exam you can probably get it worked out.

I was told (unsurprisingly considering our collective experiences with Korean bureaucracy) that taking the final exam with a different class was 'impossible'. Perhaps they said this because the final exam was later so it'd be considered an unfair advantage for me to have an extra week's study time.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on September 08, 2015, 06:18:47 pm
My final is on Sunday I'm hoping I don't have a problem with the number of hours logged.

you should be able to check on your My Page in the website. I think most teachers (if not all) log the hours after class, so you can see your current total. It doesnt display decimal points, but they are still on the system even if you can't see it. (i.e. if you've done 70.5 hours, your mypage will look like 70 hours, but anyone with access to the database will see the 70.5)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: zizitaji on September 14, 2015, 03:28:04 pm
I'm having trouble joining the website. I've tried countless time to create an account and after pressing yes to join as a member, all of the words in my fields turn to gibberish. Anyone know what's wrong? It all goes wrong after I choose ,  register as a member.


I'm an absolute beginner so I can't understand most of what is written in the dialogue box that pops up after the gibberish appears.

thanks
Title: Re: F-2 VISA - Updated 2015 Point System!
Post by: macteacher on September 17, 2015, 09:52:18 am
F-2 VISA - Updated 2015 Point System

English Version: 07.20 KIIP Update
Korean Version: 07.20 KIIP Update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIYGHLYm4hk

* Look in the description box for all the files ^^

Do you still get 10 points for completing the program?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: nomadicmadda on September 17, 2015, 10:07:13 am
I'm having trouble joining the website. I've tried countless time to create an account and after pressing yes to join as a member, all of the words in my fields turn to gibberish. Anyone know what's wrong? It all goes wrong after I choose ,  register as a member.


I'm an absolute beginner so I can't understand most of what is written in the dialogue box that pops up after the gibberish appears.

thanks

Have you tried using Internet Explorer?  Many Korean websites don't function well on other browsers  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on September 22, 2015, 09:42:19 am
How did you manage one on one?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Paul on September 22, 2015, 10:32:55 am
I'm having trouble joining the website. I've tried countless time to create an account and after pressing yes to join as a member, all of the words in my fields turn to gibberish. Anyone know what's wrong? It all goes wrong after I choose ,  register as a member.


I'm an absolute beginner so I can't understand most of what is written in the dialogue box that pops up after the gibberish appears.

thanks

Sounds like an encoding or font fallback issue. Try a different browser, set the default fallback font set to a Korean-friendly one, or try setting the page encoding manually. Rare to encounter these problems for Korean sites, but its a stock standard issue for Japanese so there'll be plenty of FAQs out there for you. Just search for 'page encoding' or 'character encoding'.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: shostager on October 26, 2015, 12:25:30 pm
How can you sign up to take the placement test again?

I took it last year in November, but due to the lack of students in my class, I had to audit a higher level. I'm sure I can get into a higher level this year, but I can't find out how to sign up again.

If it helps, this is what I see on my socinet "My Page."
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: shostager on October 26, 2015, 12:47:40 pm
Never mind, figured it out...you need to sign up in another tab of the website.

For posterity: go to "사회통합프로그램," then to the last section of that tab "평가신청."

...it's been a while since I took the test, guess I forgot.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: EBatty on November 02, 2015, 05:40:16 pm
Does anyone know if there's a way to contact KIIP for help? I'm also having issues joining the website but because it won't allow me to click "join" after entering my information. Nothing happens, no pop ups and no new page. It just won't allow me to select it. I've checked that the information is correct multiple times so I don't see what the problem is.

I'm using a mac but have tried chrome and safari. Any insight appreciated!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: johnny russian on November 02, 2015, 05:44:21 pm
Does anyone know if there's a way to contact KIIP for help? I'm also having issues joining the website but because it won't allow me to click "join" after entering my information. Nothing happens, no pop ups and no new page. It just won't allow me to select it. I've checked that the information is correct multiple times so I don't see what the problem is.

I'm using a mac but have tried chrome and safari. Any insight appreciated!

use internet explorer on a PC. go to a PC Bang if you have to. korean websites in general are just complete abominations of coding. sooo many things don't work properly. even in IE!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on November 06, 2015, 01:51:27 pm
Just received my score for the level 5 final test.  58.  60 is passing.  Incredibly disappointed.  Is there a way to petition to let me pass?  Or maybe retake the test?  Has anyone else had a similar experience?  I'd rather not spend 40-50 more hours of class time for two lousy points if I don't have to. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: nzer-in-gyeongnam on November 06, 2015, 02:22:56 pm
Just received my score for the level 5 final test.  58.  60 is passing.  Incredibly disappointed.  Is there a way to petition to let me pass?  Or maybe retake the test?  Has anyone else had a similar experience?  I'd rather not spend 40-50 more hours of class time for two lousy points if I don't have to.

Was this your first time taking the exam? If so, then you have to resit the class again, there is no other way. If it's your second time taking the exam then you may be able to get a pass grade from them.

58 is not bad! You did much better than I did. I walked out more confident than I walked in, but the reading part was my downfall.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on November 06, 2015, 06:36:04 pm
Just received my score for the level 5 final test.  58.  60 is passing.  Incredibly disappointed.  Is there a way to petition to let me pass?  Or maybe retake the test?  Has anyone else had a similar experience?  I'd rather not spend 40-50 more hours of class time for two lousy points if I don't have to.

Was this your first time taking the exam? If so, then you have to resit the class again, there is no other way. If it's your second time taking the exam then you may be able to get a pass grade from them.

58 is not bad! You did much better than I did. I walked out more confident than I walked in, but the reading part was my downfall.

It was in fact my first time attempting the test.  I felt confident about it when I walked out, but the more I thought about it, the reading got me pretty good.  I did fine on the speaking and writing (I was most confident about them).  I guess I'll just have to sit in the class and try and absorb more (since I had to miss 7 hours the first time because of work).  At least my second attempt at the class starts at 2pm and not 10am, so I can focus more.     
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Seoulcutie on November 15, 2015, 05:34:26 am
I took the pre-level test today and the speaking portion was downright awful. The proctors were rude and basically wrote off everyone, except 1 person in my group because we were low level. One of the proctors made snide comments and talked about us in front of our faces, just because she felt she could. The questions were hard and I have no idea how they expected people who wanted to get into or have just completed level 1 to answer. Not to mention they didn't even give us a moment to collect our thoughts. Of course, it was definitely luck of the draw because there was a second group of test takers in the room and their proctors seemed a whole lot more friendlier and sympathetic to the needs of Korean learners.

Oh well, what was I to expect from a free program?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: sejongthefabulous on November 15, 2015, 09:50:45 am
I took the pre-level test today and the speaking portion was downright awful. The proctors were rude and basically wrote off everyone, except 1 person in my group because we were low level. One of the proctors made snide comments and talked about us in front of our faces, just because she felt she could. The questions were hard and I have no idea how they expected people who wanted to get into or have just completed level 1 to answer. Not to mention they didn't even give us a moment to collect our thoughts. Of course, it was definitely luck of the draw because there was a second group of test takers in the room and their proctors seemed a whole lot more friendlier and sympathetic to the needs of Korean learners.

Oh well, what was I to expect from a free program?
What were the questions?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: EditHero on November 15, 2015, 10:39:45 am
I took the level test yesterday too. I had the opposite experience with my speaking portion. I was in a group with all other Asian students and each time they came to me they slowed down and even repeated themselves.

One question was about the difference or similarity between the house in your hometown and your house here. I think I was the only one that caught the word 집 cuz everyone else was talking about cultural differences and they all got corrected and I talked about the differences in parking and bathtubs... so I think I won that one.

Then the reading was about shopping for a birthday present at a department store. And when's your birthday? What's a great present you have received and from who? And then... the last few questions had me just staring blankly and apologizing so I dunno.

But I could see the score sheet for the test guy closest to me, and the best speaker (who I think annoyed them with his loooooooooong winded answers) got a 15, and I got an 11. I think. So either they were scoring REALLY hard, or I did alright.

Did anyone else take the test yesterday?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: JenH on November 20, 2015, 01:00:32 pm
I took the level test last Saturday as well. I'm in Seoul, so there was a pretty big turn out as you might imagine (maybe 700+ test takers). I'll outline my experience below - apologies in advance for the lengthy post!

(Note: A few days before the test, I received a text message from immigration with details and directions to the test venue. It was entirely in Korean, but Bing translator gave a solid enough translation.)


1. Arrive at test venue - there were staff in the main street to point us in the right direction, as well as a red tape path haha. At the building, staff looked at my receipt and told me which testing room I was in (they had organised us by birth year).


2. Go to test room - outside the room was a list with our names and our seat numbers. Inside the room, our seats were labelled with these numbers and ARC details. They did not take registration at this point.


3. Half an hour before the multiple-choice test - invigilators explained the test and asked us to put our bags and mobile phones at the front of the room. I highly recommend watching the video in this link: http://keytokorean.com/resources/kiip/what-to-expect-at-the-kiip-level-test/ which explains how to fill out the OMR card. The invigilators only spoke in Korean, so instructions could easily go over your head. They were pretty kind though, making sure we could understand and reminding us to go to the bathroom :P

We were told to also put away pencil cases/any stationery we had brought with us, and only use the black pens provided by the staff (we were not given red pens).


4. During the test - invigilators came to us individually to register us/check our ARC and names...a little off-putting, but at least done quickly.

I took a mock TOPIK reading test online (http://www.topikguide.com/complete-topik-practice-test-online/) beforehand, and it was pretty similar to the KIIP level test. Questions focus a lot on grammar, comprehension, extent of vocabulary acquisition (e.g. 'Please choose the answer which is the opposite of the underlined phrase'). Everything on the test paper is in Korean, so it's worth looking at the TOPIK mocks just to see how questions are phrased. The exam paper gets increasingly difficult (I guess, as it goes through the levels), so I was pretty much done after question 30. But! Make sure to read all the questions as the last few on my paper were about Korean culture (rather than testing us on our language) - these could help you score a few extra points.


5. After the test - all exam materials were collected and we were given a document that listed the venues where KIIP classes will be held, as well as dates for the release of class timetables and the class registration period.

We were allowed to take our mobile phones back for a short while before the speaking tests started. I'm pretty sure that they started the 'test conditions' (no mobile phones, one person at a time to go to the bathroom) the moment the very first group went in, even though we were in room 10 and had a ~2 hour wait ahead of us before people in our room would start to go in for our speaking tests  :huh: They put a movie on for us to watch in the meantime haha.

The invigilators were really strict about no mobile phones being on your person - whilst waiting to go into the speaking test room, an invigilator completely screwed at someone for having their phone on them (very loudly, all in Korean...I mean, even I was scared).


6. The speaking test - my group had a piece about someone buying a birthday present for their friend. After everyone had read, the examiners asked each person 3-4 questions depending on your ability to answer. In my group, one examiner first asked simpler questions in relation to the text and an unrelated question ('How long have you lived in Korea?'). Then the other examiner asked more difficult questions, unrelated to the text (e.g. 'What kind of house did you live in in your home country?', 'What do you think of the hagwon system in Korea?'). The examiners simplified, repeated or increased the difficulty of their questions accordingly. Overall, they seemed pretty nice! We were done after about 15 minutes.


And that's everything! Sorry it's so wordy :sad: We received our results yesterday... I thought I had really screwed up the whole level test, so I was really chuffed to see I've been placed in Level 3. Now for the challenge of registering for a class...
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chocolate.croissant on November 20, 2015, 03:18:45 pm
I took the level test last Saturday as well. I'm in Seoul, so there was a pretty big turn out as you might imagine (maybe 700+ test takers). I'll outline my experience below - apologies in advance for the lengthy post!

(Note: A few days before the test, I received a text message from immigration with details and directions to the test venue. It was entirely in Korean, but Bing translator gave a solid enough translation.)


1. Arrive at test venue - there were staff in the main street to point us in the right direction, as well as a red tape path haha. At the building, staff looked at my receipt and told me which testing room I was in (they had organised us by birth year).


2. Go to test room - outside the room was a list with our names and our seat numbers. Inside the room, our seats were labelled with these numbers and ARC details. They did not take registration at this point.


3. Half an hour before the multiple-choice test - invigilators explained the test and asked us to put our bags and mobile phones at the front of the room. I highly recommend watching the video in this link: http://keytokorean.com/resources/kiip/what-to-expect-at-the-kiip-level-test/ which explains how to fill out the OMR card. The invigilators only spoke in Korean, so instructions could easily go over your head. They were pretty kind though, making sure we could understand and reminding us to go to the bathroom :P

We were told to also put away pencil cases/any stationery we had brought with us, and only use the black pens provided by the staff (we were not given red pens).


4. During the test - invigilators came to us individually to register us/check our ARC and names...a little off-putting, but at least done quickly.

I took a mock TOPIK reading test online (http://www.topikguide.com/complete-topik-practice-test-online/) beforehand, and it was pretty similar to the KIIP level test. Questions focus a lot on grammar, comprehension, extent of vocabulary acquisition (e.g. 'Please choose the answer which is the opposite of the underlined phrase'). Everything on the test paper is in Korean, so it's worth looking at the TOPIK mocks just to see how questions are phrased. The exam paper gets increasingly difficult (I guess, as it goes through the levels), so I was pretty much done after question 30. But! Make sure to read all the questions as the last few on my paper were about Korean culture (rather than testing us on our language) - these could help you score a few extra points.


5. After the test - all exam materials were collected and we were given a document that listed the venues where KIIP classes will be held, as well as dates for the release of class timetables and the class registration period.

We were allowed to take our mobile phones back for a short while before the speaking tests started. I'm pretty sure that they started the 'test conditions' (no mobile phones, one person at a time to go to the bathroom) the moment the very first group went in, even though we were in room 10 and had a ~2 hour wait ahead of us before people in our room would start to go in for our speaking tests  :huh: They put a movie on for us to watch in the meantime haha.

The invigilators were really strict about no mobile phones being on your person - whilst waiting to go into the speaking test room, an invigilator completely screwed at someone for having their phone on them (very loudly, all in Korean...I mean, even I was scared).


6. The speaking test - my group had a piece about someone buying a birthday present for their friend. After everyone had read, the examiners asked each person 3-4 questions depending on your ability to answer. In my group, one examiner first asked simpler questions in relation to the text and an unrelated question ('How long have you lived in Korea?'). Then the other examiner asked more difficult questions, unrelated to the text (e.g. 'What kind of house did you live in in your home country?', 'What do you think of the hagwon system in Korea?'). The examiners simplified, repeated or increased the difficulty of their questions accordingly. Overall, they seemed pretty nice! We were done after about 15 minutes.


And that's everything! Sorry it's so wordy :sad: We received our results yesterday... I thought I had really screwed up the whole level test, so I was really chuffed to see I've been placed in Level 3. Now for the challenge of registering for a class...

Do you know the date/time that registration starts?  I called and they said they didn't know, that I was  supposed to get a text about it.  But the last time I took the evaluation I never got a text, so by the time I looked at the courses, what I wanted was all filled up.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: gyulhyeon on November 20, 2015, 03:25:50 pm
Are you talking about the level test on November 14th?  The results for the level test are already posted and you can sign up for the classes now (at least for Incheon).
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chocolate.croissant on November 20, 2015, 03:43:34 pm
Are you talking about the level test on November 14th?  The results for the level test are already posted and you can sign up for the classes now (at least for Incheon).

I actually took mine in August, but the results are good for six months or something afterward, and I wasn't able to sign up for the classes available right after my test.  I took the test at Sookmyeong Women's Uni.  Nothing has been showing for me yet.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: JenH on November 20, 2015, 03:46:47 pm
@chocolate.croissant From the document they gave us (for Seoul), it seems that they'll release the class timetables for each venue on December 31st. Registration period for the classes is then meant to be January 20th-22nd :)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: johnny russian on November 20, 2015, 07:40:56 pm
this level test everyone is talking about - is this for classes happening next year? because there's no option to sign up for anything - including a level test - on my SOCINET account.

EDIT: just tried to go on the website now, and it's telling me: "social integration program unavailable". what?

anyway, does anyone know when the next pre-test is?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on November 20, 2015, 08:44:13 pm
based on the document you can download from waaayback on the notice board about the whole year's schedule, it looks like the 5th placement test for the year (the one just done) is the last one scheduled.

Most years are pretty similar in the session dates, so I would be expecting another placement at the beginning of January, with registration around the end of December/early January. Registration seems to finish around a week or so before the test date (could be wrong about this, as it is just from memory).
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: johnny russian on November 21, 2015, 12:54:14 am
based on the document you can download from waaayback on the notice board about the whole year's schedule, it looks like the 5th placement test for the year (the one just done) is the last one scheduled.

Most years are pretty similar in the session dates, so I would be expecting another placement at the beginning of January, with registration around the end of December/early January. Registration seems to finish around a 1 or so before the test date (could be wrong about this, as it is just from memory).

amazing, thanks lauren  8)

i could do January level test no problem. i actually got a korean friend of mine to call the woman responsible for my district a month or two ago about the next level test. she said she would email me when it was coming up, but of course nothing.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Samteachercheongdo on November 23, 2015, 01:25:05 pm
Hi everybody. I took the level test on November 14th with Yangju immigration office and have been allocated to level 3. Any idea when the classes will start or when we will have the option to register for classes? Any of you guys planning to study in Ilsan?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: shostager on November 23, 2015, 01:35:00 pm
Online classes are already up and full for my level... apparently they were posted on the 21st. Guess I should have been checking every day or something! It would have been nice to finish before break...
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on November 23, 2015, 02:25:30 pm
Online classes are already up and full for my level... apparently they were posted on the 21st. Guess I should have been checking every day or something! It would have been nice to finish before break...

Are you in level 5 managed by the Seoul immigration office by chance?  I am and I got a string of text messages saying that they'd opened up a bunch of classes (luckily I was already enrolled in one, so they didn't really pertain to me).  I was curious and checked on SociNet a few hours later and they were all full.  My teacher said there were more than 200 people, just in Seoul, waiting for spots in level 5 classes to open up.     
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: shostager on November 23, 2015, 02:29:02 pm
Level 5 in Gangwon-do, ~6 classes posted. I don't even know how I would get a text message (didn't get any for classes before).

I really wish they would open more classes, especially if there's clearly more demand!

Edit: I suppose the online classes may be separately managed by the office in Seoul. If that's the case, well it doesn't seem like I had much of a chance, did I?  :cry:
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: EditHero on November 23, 2015, 11:34:01 pm
Where on the site can you find a listing for online classes? I looked today but saw nothing and I'm not entirely sure how or where to find them...

Though it seems like they're already all full from what was just said...
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: jinteh on November 24, 2015, 07:19:45 am
Where on the site can you find a listing for online classes? I looked today but saw nothing and I'm not entirely sure how or where to find them...

Though it seems like they're already all full from what was just said...

After signing in, click on "마이페이지" at the top, then select your language. After that you can click on "Apply Class" to search for classes.

I'm Level 3 and nothing is showing up for online/offline classes yet. Even if classes are full for your level, I would keep checking. Sometimes new classes get added.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: EditHero on November 24, 2015, 09:19:44 am
I'm level three as well. So I guess its just keep checking and checking cuz I'd really like to get into an online class
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: shostager on November 24, 2015, 09:32:21 am
Is there a way to sign up to be notified when they post classes? They have my phone number and email address.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chocolate.croissant on November 24, 2015, 09:52:00 am
@chocolate.croissant From the document they gave us (for Seoul), it seems that they'll release the class timetables for each venue on December 31st. Registration period for the classes is then meant to be January 20th-22nd :)

Thanks for the reply!  Does that mean then classes wouldn't start until February?  This is a lot later than the people suggested when I called earlier, but then it seems like nobody in this program is very coordinated.

So annoying as I'm having to stick around at a job I don't like until I can finish this and apply for the visa.  =(
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chocolate.croissant on November 24, 2015, 09:52:29 am
Online classes are already up and full for my level... apparently they were posted on the 21st. Guess I should have been checking every day or something! It would have been nice to finish before break...

Where are you located?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chocolate.croissant on November 24, 2015, 09:53:45 am
Online classes are already up and full for my level... apparently they were posted on the 21st. Guess I should have been checking every day or something! It would have been nice to finish before break...

Are you in level 5 managed by the Seoul immigration office by chance?  I am and I got a string of text messages saying that they'd opened up a bunch of classes (luckily I was already enrolled in one, so they didn't really pertain to me).  I was curious and checked on SociNet a few hours later and they were all full.  My teacher said there were more than 200 people, just in Seoul, waiting for spots in level 5 classes to open up.   

Was this just level 5 or did they post any other levels?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on November 24, 2015, 10:43:14 am
Online classes are already up and full for my level... apparently they were posted on the 21st. Guess I should have been checking every day or something! It would have been nice to finish before break...

Are you in level 5 managed by the Seoul immigration office by chance?  I am and I got a string of text messages saying that they'd opened up a bunch of classes (luckily I was already enrolled in one, so they didn't really pertain to me).  I was curious and checked on SociNet a few hours later and they were all full.  My teacher said there were more than 200 people, just in Seoul, waiting for spots in level 5 classes to open up.   

Was this just level 5 or did they post any other levels?

I honestly don't know.  My teacher only mentioned level 5 and all the texts I got were about level 5.  I'm not seeing anything on the notice board and Google and Naver searches aren't showing anything either. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: JenH on November 24, 2015, 12:43:45 pm
@chocolate.croissant From the document they gave us (for Seoul), it seems that they'll release the class timetables for each venue on December 31st. Registration period for the classes is then meant to be January 20th-22nd :)

Thanks for the reply!  Does that mean then classes wouldn't start until February?  This is a lot later than the people suggested when I called earlier, but then it seems like nobody in this program is very coordinated.

So annoying as I'm having to stick around at a job I don't like until I can finish this and apply for the visa.  =(

I'm not entirely sure, but I would assume so;; I did a few internet searches to check when classes usually begin at the start of the year - Jan/Feb seemed about right. A friend who is currently studying the KIIP also told me that it was a while before classes started after their level test.

Although now I'm worried because everyone here has been mentioning classes opening up earlier?? :huh:

Information about this programme is definitely scarcer than would be helpful ㅠㅠ I'm not sure which level you are, but hopefully classes will open up sooner for you!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on November 24, 2015, 08:18:33 pm
Class registration is a rolling process. Not all will open up at the same, and if one location gets a lot of demand they will probably open another one up after a week or two. If you are curious you can contact the locations directly and ask (This will have to be done in Korean unfortunately, like most of the things- which is crazy for a Korean language program with beginner levels)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: EBatty on November 25, 2015, 01:33:42 pm
Can anyone tell me what you have to select to apply for a class or see available options? Is it just Apply Class on my page? And if so and there is nothing listed that means there are no available classes? Sorry if it's a stupid question, but I tested into Level 2 and there are other options on my page like vicarious class application and deputizing class application which I tried selecting for a certain location, but does that exempt me from others? And if there are no classes available I'm not sure why that's an option...?

Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: jinteh on November 25, 2015, 01:57:02 pm
Can anyone tell me what you have to select to apply for a class or see available options? Is it just Apply Class on my page? And if so and there is nothing listed that means there are no available classes? Sorry if it's a stupid question, but I tested into Level 2 and there are other options on my page like vicarious class application and deputizing class application which I tried selecting for a certain location, but does that exempt me from others? And if there are no classes available I'm not sure why that's an option...?

The "Apply Class" option will show any upcoming classes (available or full). After that, I also click on the "Search" button just to make sure.

I'm not sure if the "Vicarious" option affects class listings or not. Anyone else know?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: EditHero on November 25, 2015, 06:07:08 pm
The "Apply Class" option will show any upcoming classes (available or full). After that, I also click on the "Search" button just to make sure.

I'm not sure if the "Vicarious" option affects class listings or not. Anyone else know?

I dunno about the vicarious stuff, but I did try to search around about it and it wasn't clear. When you hit search are you just searching for the dates automatically in the boxes? Because my dates on the left side are showing august through feb, and the dates on the right side are blank...

so confusing
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: sloombage on November 26, 2015, 02:00:27 pm
The "Apply Class" option will show any upcoming classes (available or full). After that, I also click on the "Search" button just to make sure.

I'm not sure if the "Vicarious" option affects class listings or not. Anyone else know?

I dunno about the vicarious stuff, but I did try to search around about it and it wasn't clear. When you hit search are you just searching for the dates automatically in the boxes? Because my dates on the left side are showing august through feb, and the dates on the right side are blank...

so confusing

Yeah I'm searching with the Aug - Feb dates too and with the second ones blank and nothing shows up. I'm able to choose a specific location when I select vicarious and deputizing class application but I have no way of knowing if there's classes even held there. Hmm.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on November 26, 2015, 03:00:34 pm

I think you guys are looking into this too much. Just click apply class and all classes within your immigration center area will show up. You don't need to apply filters or anything.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Samteachercheongdo on November 28, 2015, 03:37:03 pm
Hey guys, getting ahead of the game a bit. I downloaded the PDF for KIIP level 3 2015 and printed it off as a book at a kinkos. I still can't find an upload of the audio CD though. Could someone be kind enough to upload it or point me in the right direction. Thankyou :)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: jinteh on November 28, 2015, 05:10:52 pm
Hey guys, getting ahead of the game a bit. I downloaded the PDF for KIIP level 3 2015 and printed it off as a book at a kinkos. I still can't find an upload of the audio CD though. Could someone be kind enough to upload it or point me in the right direction. Thankyou :)

I'm also level 3. Where did you download the pdf?

**NVM, I just googled "KIIP Level 3 PDF" and found a youtube page with the book links.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Samteachercheongdo on November 30, 2015, 07:56:21 am
Hey guys, getting ahead of the game a bit. I downloaded the PDF for KIIP level 3 2015 and printed it off as a book at a kinkos. I still can't find an upload of the audio CD though. Could someone be kind enough to upload it or point me in the right direction. Thankyou :)

I'm also level 3. Where did you download the pdf?

**NVM, I just googled "KIIP Level 3 PDF" and found a youtube page with the book links.

Yeah, that's where I found it. Let me know if you find the audio CD. :)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: zizitaji on November 30, 2015, 11:05:17 am
Unfortunately, I was unable to get into the KIIP class this time around :/. I guess the location is popular, so I'll have to wait until next year.  :cry:


Someone told me that once you enter the program, you must finish it , meaning I would have to stay in Korea until I passed level 5. Does anyone know if this is true?


I would probably test into level 1 , ha.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Samteachercheongdo on November 30, 2015, 03:53:11 pm
For those of you who want the audio for the level 3 and level 4 2015 KIIP textbooks:

Level 3.  https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B41K0o5WDGuzfjVDaXAtZS05aTRnMWJ0a0tlbDZrV2NHVVFMTW1NQVktaUlmOHZlMHdpcDQ Level 4 https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3BLpfPNzwu2flI5RXZDWnJ1RmJ0RWRhb2VEeER0cnNOeE11T2RObVVFeGJkTi0tQUpGVzg&usp=sharing
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Samteachercheongdo on November 30, 2015, 03:55:45 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIYGHLYm4hk

Also if you follow this link and look in the description you can get the PDF's for each level too. Binding about 200 pages like a book costs about 17k in Kinko's. Or you could just wait for the free version haha.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on November 30, 2015, 04:13:52 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIYGHLYm4hk

Also if you follow this link and look in the description you can get the PDF's for each level too. Binding about 200 pages like a book costs about 17k in Kinko's. Or you could just wait for the free version haha.

Just because I've seen some people in this thread not be aware of it, you can buy these books at kyobo for 7,000 won. Or on the first day (in cash) of your class
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ave, lucifer on December 05, 2015, 04:09:45 pm
Does anyone have a schedule for 2016 classes? I can't seem to find anything on socinet.go.kr
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: kl1247 on December 10, 2015, 11:14:26 am
Does anyone have a schedule for 2016 classes? I can't seem to find anything on socinet.go.kr

Classes probably won't be posted until January after their next placement test. )But I don't even think they really know the actual schedule for the year ever.)

My teacher said classes will start in February (most likely after Lunar New Year). The only class that will start before that is the  한글 class.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on December 21, 2015, 06:00:13 pm


passed level 3

can anyone explain when the midterm is taken
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chocolate.croissant on December 22, 2015, 08:11:05 am
Class registration is a rolling process. Not all will open up at the same, and if one location gets a lot of demand they will probably open another one up after a week or two. If you are curious you can contact the locations directly and ask (This will have to be done in Korean unfortunately, like most of the things- which is crazy for a Korean language program with beginner levels)

I have called them on several occasions and they never. know.  =(  They just say wait for a text message, which I have never gotten.  >.>
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on December 22, 2015, 08:30:39 am
Class registration is a rolling process. Not all will open up at the same, and if one location gets a lot of demand they will probably open another one up after a week or two. If you are curious you can contact the locations directly and ask (This will have to be done in Korean unfortunately, like most of the things- which is crazy for a Korean language program with beginner levels)

I have called them on several occasions and they never. know.  =(  They just say wait for a text message, which I have never gotten.  >.>

welcome to korea
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on December 22, 2015, 08:46:54 am
Class registration is a rolling process. Not all will open up at the same, and if one location gets a lot of demand they will probably open another one up after a week or two. If you are curious you can contact the locations directly and ask (This will have to be done in Korean unfortunately, like most of the things- which is crazy for a Korean language program with beginner levels)

I have called them on several occasions and they never. know.  =(  They just say wait for a text message, which I have never gotten.  >.>

Are you talking about Immigration or the direct locations (the universities hosting the courses).

The universities will only text message you if you are already enrolled. Immigration sometimes text messages, but I can't remember a specific one for enrollment- usually it's up to you to  be ready to enroll when the classes open (which I believe is the 20th of January, but my memory is a bit hazy about that).

What I was talking about with contacting the different locations is that if all the classes are filled, thats when you can phone the universities to either beg to be included in a class or find out if they are thinking about opening another class in the future. Because of a phone call I made to a university, I knew that a class would be opening on a specific date, and was ready to enroll on that day, which allowed me to get ahead of others who maybe didn't know.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: gagevt on December 22, 2015, 09:04:23 am
Are there only certain uiversities that offer these programs or is it typically available at most unis?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: johnny russian on December 22, 2015, 09:09:01 am
Are there only certain uiversities that offer these programs or is it typically available at most unis?

the program is technically run by the kroean government, in terms of districts, not by universities. so it's really up to each district where they decide to run the program. they could hold it in a lecture room in city hall or something if they wanted to.

i think a lot of the districts just choose government universities to hold the courses at since they have lecture/teaching facilities available, and maybe they contract university staff to run the language courses. since they're government universities they probably get the facilities for free too, as opposed to having to pay.

that's how i understand it anyway.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on December 22, 2015, 11:43:14 am
just a little bit of info. The locations actually apply to be hosts of the program, the most recent document in the 'news' section of the website is about recruitment for these places and the application forms they need to fill in. It was interesting to read, as it listed some of the things you don't normally know. The quota for locations in each district/city etc, facilities they should be able to provide, how many students (more than 10 in  class), need for public insurance it seems. It seems that the universities can suggest their budget, rather than the government saying "this is how much we pay", which is suprising to me- but usually in a contract bidding situation, this means the companies have to be mindful of asking too much.

Just to clarify my previous post, since I kept referring to locations as universities, I don't believe the hosts have to be necessarily universities (you'll see cultural centers and similar places being locations as well), but they often are because they already have language programs and all the necessary facilities, so they just add it on and get some money.

Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chocolate.croissant on December 30, 2015, 09:24:36 am
Class registration is a rolling process. Not all will open up at the same, and if one location gets a lot of demand they will probably open another one up after a week or two. If you are curious you can contact the locations directly and ask (This will have to be done in Korean unfortunately, like most of the things- which is crazy for a Korean language program with beginner levels)

I have called them on several occasions and they never. know.  =(  They just say wait for a text message, which I have never gotten.  >.>

Are you talking about Immigration or the direct locations (the universities hosting the courses).

The universities will only text message you if you are already enrolled. Immigration sometimes text messages, but I can't remember a specific one for enrollment- usually it's up to you to  be ready to enroll when the classes open (which I believe is the 20th of January, but my memory is a bit hazy about that).

What I was talking about with contacting the different locations is that if all the classes are filled, thats when you can phone the universities to either beg to be included in a class or find out if they are thinking about opening another class in the future. Because of a phone call I made to a university, I knew that a class would be opening on a specific date, and was ready to enroll on that day, which allowed me to get ahead of others who maybe didn't know.

Calling the individual locations.  Did you just call over and over again until they did know something?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on December 30, 2015, 11:35:26 am
Class registration is a rolling process. Not all will open up at the same, and if one location gets a lot of demand they will probably open another one up after a week or two. If you are curious you can contact the locations directly and ask (This will have to be done in Korean unfortunately, like most of the things- which is crazy for a Korean language program with beginner levels)

I have called them on several occasions and they never. know.  =(  They just say wait for a text message, which I have never gotten.  >.>

Are you talking about Immigration or the direct locations (the universities hosting the courses).

The universities will only text message you if you are already enrolled. Immigration sometimes text messages, but I can't remember a specific one for enrollment- usually it's up to you to  be ready to enroll when the classes open (which I believe is the 20th of January, but my memory is a bit hazy about that).

What I was talking about with contacting the different locations is that if all the classes are filled, thats when you can phone the universities to either beg to be included in a class or find out if they are thinking about opening another class in the future. Because of a phone call I made to a university, I knew that a class would be opening on a specific date, and was ready to enroll on that day, which allowed me to get ahead of others who maybe didn't know.

Calling the individual locations.  Did you just call over and over again until they did know something?

I only needed to call once and they said the date it would probably open, but they won't know until that date basically anyway. Up to you how much you call I guess, based on what they tell you.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SmallBaguette on December 31, 2015, 09:30:36 am
Has anyone had any updates or luck yet? I've still not seen anything on the website as of yet. I was under the impression that it was supposed to be posted yesterday.

Thanks!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chocolate.croissant on December 31, 2015, 05:49:26 pm
Has anyone had any updates or luck yet? I've still not seen anything on the website as of yet. I was under the impression that it was supposed to be posted yesterday.

Thanks!

I also thought it was gonna be up today but I don't see anything.  Argh these people.  =/
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chocolate.croissant on December 31, 2015, 05:50:25 pm
Class registration is a rolling process. Not all will open up at the same, and if one location gets a lot of demand they will probably open another one up after a week or two. If you are curious you can contact the locations directly and ask (This will have to be done in Korean unfortunately, like most of the things- which is crazy for a Korean language program with beginner levels)

I have called them on several occasions and they never. know.  =(  They just say wait for a text message, which I have never gotten.  >.>

Are you talking about Immigration or the direct locations (the universities hosting the courses).

The universities will only text message you if you are already enrolled. Immigration sometimes text messages, but I can't remember a specific one for enrollment- usually it's up to you to  be ready to enroll when the classes open (which I believe is the 20th of January, but my memory is a bit hazy about that).

What I was talking about with contacting the different locations is that if all the classes are filled, thats when you can phone the universities to either beg to be included in a class or find out if they are thinking about opening another class in the future. Because of a phone call I made to a university, I knew that a class would be opening on a specific date, and was ready to enroll on that day, which allowed me to get ahead of others who maybe didn't know.

Calling the individual locations.  Did you just call over and over again until they did know something?

I only needed to call once and they said the date it would probably open, but they won't know until that date basically anyway. Up to you how much you call I guess, based on what they tell you.

So frustrating.  Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on December 31, 2015, 09:30:08 pm
Just another FYI for anyone coming across this post. I think the next round of classes will be up around January 20th. That is the definite date given for when classes will start to become available  for Level 5 classes, so is probably a good ballpark time for when other classes will be available as well.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: lieueez on January 08, 2016, 11:16:40 pm
Does anyone know the testing location for the January 16 placement test in Seoul? I'm registered for the exam, but I don't know where to go.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on January 08, 2016, 11:21:05 pm
Does anyone know the testing location for the January 16 placement test in Seoul? I'm registered for the exam, but I don't know where to go.

I think it's based on which immigration office you're registered with.  I think everyone registered at the Seoul immigration office goes to Soongsil University.  I've lived in Seongnam and I've lived on the edge of western Seoul and every test I've taken (placement or final) has been at Soongsil. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: jinteh on January 09, 2016, 05:58:40 am
Does anyone know the testing location for the January 16 placement test in Seoul? I'm registered for the exam, but I don't know where to go.

The two times I took the test, the location didn't get posted until a few days before. I'd check it again this Thursday.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: shostager on January 11, 2016, 09:21:54 am
Just signed up for an online class, but did some research and discovered that you need a Microsoft computer for the class program (.exe file). Would that work on a tablet? I only have a Mac currently...

Or - would it work on something like VirtualBox? I could do something like Bootcamp, but my Mac is kinda old (2010), so I'm not sure how much memory / processing power I can spare...

Alternatively, I'm willing to wait for an in-class option, I just have no idea when/where those would be available.

Does anyone know / have information on when/where (in Gangwondo) Level 5 classes tend to be?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SmallBaguette on January 20, 2016, 10:15:21 am
So, it's now the 20th and.... still nothing.

I guess I'll wait until the end of the day before making any calls etc. Is anyone able to see the classes posted or are they definitely not up yet? Thanks!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on January 20, 2016, 11:12:02 am
So, it's now the 20th and.... still nothing.

I guess I'll wait until the end of the day before making any calls etc. Is anyone able to see the classes posted or are they definitely not up yet? Thanks!

Not up for me, but I thought that was maybe to do with the Level 5 and how it's usually a smaller group with smaller offerings. Just keep checking in on the site, classes should start coming up (today? tomorrow?). Now it's all a waiting game
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SmallBaguette on January 20, 2016, 11:17:00 am
So, it's now the 20th and.... still nothing.

I guess I'll wait until the end of the day before making any calls etc. Is anyone able to see the classes posted or are they definitely not up yet? Thanks!

Not up for me, but I thought that was maybe to do with the Level 5 and how it's usually a smaller group with smaller offerings. Just keep checking in on the site, classes should start coming up (today? tomorrow?). Now it's all a waiting game

I have a notice from them saying that all classes should be up today. They gave it to me at the end of the exam, but it seems like you're right. Just a waiting game...

I'll make sure to post as soon as I see them appear online. I hope you get the class you're looking for!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SmallBaguette on January 21, 2016, 01:56:53 pm
Still nothing showing up for me... anyone else see the dates yet?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: shostager on January 21, 2016, 02:38:33 pm
Nothing up for me either, and apparently the person in charge of that in my area is out on a business trip until sometime tomorrow, so I'm not expecting to see any information anytime today...possibly not even this week.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: EditHero on January 22, 2016, 08:40:38 am
I had an online class pop up and I clicked to apply to it and my reason for applying was listed as work because I work in Yongin but I live in Seoul so its complicated... and now my my page page says my deputized class was rejected....

What should I do now?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on January 22, 2016, 09:06:12 am
classes are up. More are coming out as I refresh (well, one did).

Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on January 22, 2016, 09:08:48 am
although typically, they seem to still be "locked" and don't have an apply button.

as for the online, usually you need to get in contact with immigration with evidence/reasons for you needing the online class. I believe before you apply for it, but I could be wrong on that (it may be immediately after pressing apply).
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: JenH on January 22, 2016, 09:12:09 am
I had an online class pop up and I clicked to apply to it and my reason for applying was listed as work because I work in Yongin but I live in Seoul so its complicated... and now my my page page says my deputized class was rejected....

What should I do now?

For the online classes that have popped up on my page (I'm looking at Level 3), it appears that the registration period (신청기간) begins tomorrow and will be open until the 31st of this month. Perhaps your application was rejected because the registration period isn't open yet? Hopefully you can try again tomorrow!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: EditHero on January 22, 2016, 09:21:13 am
And I am an idiot who doesn't read closely. Thanks for pointing that out :-)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: probablylauren on January 22, 2016, 09:23:45 am
Oh the "locked" ones are locked because they are up now and viewable (the 22nd, which according to pdf documents I just read was the official start of applications, not like the 20th that was stressed so much during the exam), but they have a different application periods (i.e. from the 23rd on)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SmallBaguette on January 22, 2016, 10:04:19 am
I am seeing classes pop up now. Does anyone have any idea about the weekend classes? I'm only seeing weekday classes at yhe moment (as far as I can tell, I'm going by the start dates which are all Mondays). Thanks! I hope everyone gets the classes that they are looking for.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: shostager on January 22, 2016, 12:20:03 pm
I'm only seeing online classes...are there different dates to sign up for the in-person ones? I would prefer that, but seeing all these online opportunities pass by and nothing in-person is kinda worrying...
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: JenH on January 22, 2016, 12:59:29 pm
More and more classes are being added periodically, and it seems like they're posting in the order of: online classes, then in-class on week days, and then in-class on weekends (though weekend classes haven't appeared for me yet). Keep refreshing the page~ hopefully we'll all get the classes we want!

Also, if you click through on the class itself~ you'll be able to see the class schedule (i.e. what days, dates and times classes will be held) :azn:
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: emmas28 on February 04, 2016, 10:11:59 am
Am I too late to register for the next round of classes? I have been trying to register on the webiste with some prompts I found but it keeps saying that my ARC number doesn't match my name. Please tell me I'm missing something!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SmallBaguette on February 04, 2016, 10:29:50 am
Have you taken the exam already? I would guess that you're too late. Sorry.  :lipsrsealed:

It's worth trying anyway though! Make sure you input your name like on your card: "LASTNAME FIRSTNAME"
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: emmas28 on February 04, 2016, 02:55:23 pm
Have you taken the exam already? I would guess that you're too late. Sorry.  :lipsrsealed:

It's worth trying anyway though! Make sure you input your name like on your card: "LASTNAME FIRSTNAME"

Thanks for the advice, think I've missed the deadline though!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Greenteabingsu on February 21, 2016, 02:38:04 pm
Did anyone in the Jinju area sign up for the class at the MCF center starting today 2/21? I went to the address posted on the website for it and no one showed up at all.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: shostager on February 22, 2016, 07:44:36 am
There might not have been enough students and they cancelled the class. I signed up for a class where I was the only member, and it disappeared from the site without any notification to me. Apparently if there are less than 8 students (may vary by location), they cancel the class.

Or, maybe they changed the location and/or time. Our teacher was half an hour late the first class because she applied to change the time and no one else got the memo.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Greenteabingsu on February 22, 2016, 08:21:21 am
There might not have been enough students and they cancelled the class. I signed up for a class where I was the only member, and it disappeared from the site without any notification to me. Apparently if there are less than 8 students (may vary by location), they cancel the class.

Or, maybe they changed the location and/or time. Our teacher was half an hour late the first class because she applied to change the time and no one else got the memo.

That's probably what happened :/ I called on Friday to make sure the class would go on and they said yes but there was probably a change even they didn't know about.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: F0x on March 16, 2016, 04:26:17 pm
I'm trying now to apply Korean classes in Incheon. After fighting with the nightmare they call web site, finally I registered there and stated I have 0 lvl, so I do not need a pretest.
Then I suppose I have to choose a place and apply classes, so I tried all places they offer, but search over classes in date range 2016/01/01 - 2017/01/01 showed me 0 results...
What did I wrong? Or there are no classes scheduled yet (or it is too late)?
Please help, thank you!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: AnonymousMan6 on March 16, 2016, 05:36:40 pm
You are a little late or early depending on your point of view. You can sign up for classes in 3-4 months. The exact date is not yet known =/
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: F0x on March 16, 2016, 07:00:58 pm
Thank you, so then I'll keep checking available classes time to time. Do you know maybe I can find somewhere announcement about upcoming classes?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: AnonymousMan6 on March 18, 2016, 05:44:25 pm
Thank you, so then I'll keep checking available classes time to time. Do you know maybe I can find somewhere announcement about upcoming classes?

I think test sign ups might be ready in 2 months. In 3 months my course ends and a month after that the next level starts. So anywhere from 3-4 months from now. Sorry for such a large timeline =X
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chocolate.croissant on March 20, 2016, 01:23:19 pm
Important FYI for those of you who have a valid TOPIK score: it can serve in place of your level test.  For example, if you passed TOPIK level 4, you can go ahead and take level 5 of KIIP.  I just found this out today, so basically that means I took the level test for no reason and am now in a KIIP level 4 class when I could have advanced directly to the last class.  Now it's too late for me to change.  I heard nothing about this when I registered, my teacher blamed it on the website being in Korean but we all know this program is a mess.  When I registered I even input my TOPIK score, but even though they ask your score they apparently don't take it into account; you have to register another way.

I hope this helps someone, I'm pretty pissed that I went through all the trouble of requesting special time off work just to take level 4 when I could have gone directly to level five.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: yiting91 on March 21, 2016, 08:19:43 am
Important FYI for those of you who have a valid TOPIK score: it can serve in place of your level test.  For example, if you passed TOPIK level 4, you can go ahead and take level 5 of KIIP.  I just found this out today, so basically that means I took the level test for no reason and am now in a KIIP level 4 class when I could have advanced directly to the last class.  Now it's too late for me to change.  I heard nothing about this when I registered, my teacher blamed it on the website being in Korean but we all know this program is a mess.  When I registered I even input my TOPIK score, but even though they ask your score they apparently don't take it into account; you have to register another way.

I hope this helps someone, I'm pretty pissed that I went through all the trouble of requesting special time off work just to take level 4 when I could have gone directly to level five.

I have a Level 4 from the TOPIK test - do you know how I can register?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: F0x on March 21, 2016, 06:20:48 pm
I have 0 lvl,  does it make any sence to go and pass general test (Apr 30)?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chocolate.croissant on March 22, 2016, 10:35:03 am
Important FYI for those of you who have a valid TOPIK score: it can serve in place of your level test.  For example, if you passed TOPIK level 4, you can go ahead and take level 5 of KIIP.  I just found this out today, so basically that means I took the level test for no reason and am now in a KIIP level 4 class when I could have advanced directly to the last class.  Now it's too late for me to change.  I heard nothing about this when I registered, my teacher blamed it on the website being in Korean but we all know this program is a mess.  When I registered I even input my TOPIK score, but even though they ask your score they apparently don't take it into account; you have to register another way.

I hope this helps someone, I'm pretty pissed that I went through all the trouble of requesting special time off work just to take level 4 when I could have gone directly to level five.

I have a Level 4 from the TOPIK test - do you know how I can register?

Unfortunately I don't know.  Right now I'm trying to see if there's any way I can jump up to level 5.  I'd get in touch with someone at kiip to find out how.  Supposedly it's on the website but I didn't see it anywhere.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: gaelsano on March 27, 2016, 06:20:49 pm
TOPIK doesn't count for anything. You have to take the pre-test, which is much esier than the equivalent TOPIK score. Just don't piss of the judges like I did. They tried pronouncing my last name based on the romanization when they called me for interview portion and I said "[my name's pronunciation]이요?" because I wanted to confirm they weren't mangling a Malayan name that I'm hearing.

I got an angry look and he said "한국말로 해야지! Speak in Korean! (spoken in rude style)" so I got a zero for that part. Good luck to anyone who takes the pre-test. Avoid my mistake and you'll be fine. Post-tests are even easier than the pre-test. Once you get in they just want you to pass and get rid of you.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: tasslehoff_11 on March 27, 2016, 06:23:01 pm
When is the next block of pretests?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on March 28, 2016, 07:16:35 am
TOPIK doesn't count for anything. You have to take the pre-test, which is much esier than the equivalent TOPIK score. Just don't piss of the judges like I did. They tried pronouncing my last name based on the romanization when they called me for interview portion and I said "[my name's pronunciation]이요?" because I wanted to confirm they weren't mangling a Malayan name that I'm hearing.

I got an angry look and he said "한국말로 해야지! Speak in Korean! (spoken in rude style)" so I got a zero for that part. Good luck to anyone who takes the pre-test. Avoid my mistake and you'll be fine. Post-tests are even easier than the pre-test. Once you get in they just want you to pass and get rid of you.

That's not true at all. My coworker got into level 5 just with TOPIK 4, no pretest. He went to one of their offices in Seoul. You'd probably have to call immigration or look up a number on the website to get the details.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: johnny russian on March 28, 2016, 08:06:24 am
TOPIK doesn't count for anything. You have to take the pre-test, which is much esier than the equivalent TOPIK score. Just don't piss of the judges like I did. They tried pronouncing my last name based on the romanization when they called me for interview portion and I said "[my name's pronunciation]이요?" because I wanted to confirm they weren't mangling a Malayan name that I'm hearing.

I got an angry look and he said "한국말로 해야지! Speak in Korean! (spoken in rude style)" so I got a zero for that part. Good luck to anyone who takes the pre-test. Avoid my mistake and you'll be fine. Post-tests are even easier than the pre-test. Once you get in they just want you to pass and get rid of you.

gotta love it. at all these korean classes they tell you "speak in Korean!". but then in the english classes all the textbooks are in korean, and all the teachers speak in korean because "the students feel hard to speak english".

that ajjeoshi a-hole probably couldn't understand any english.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chocolate.croissant on March 29, 2016, 10:42:28 am
Important FYI for those of you who have a valid TOPIK score: it can serve in place of your level test.  For example, if you passed TOPIK level 4, you can go ahead and take level 5 of KIIP.  I just found this out today, so basically that means I took the level test for no reason and am now in a KIIP level 4 class when I could have advanced directly to the last class.  Now it's too late for me to change.  I heard nothing about this when I registered, my teacher blamed it on the website being in Korean but we all know this program is a mess.  When I registered I even input my TOPIK score, but even though they ask your score they apparently don't take it into account; you have to register another way.

I hope this helps someone, I'm pretty pissed that I went through all the trouble of requesting special time off work just to take level 4 when I could have gone directly to level five.



I have a Level 4 from the TOPIK test - do you know how I can register?
I was finally told by my teacher over the weekend that I can take my TOPIK score sheet to immigration in Mokdong and they will get me into level 5.  It doesn't do me much good at this point because the level five class is already finished, but I can skip the rest of my level 4 classes if I want and skip the exit test.  I don't know if there's an easier way (faxing your score sheet etc.) but there you go.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chocolate.croissant on March 30, 2016, 10:33:53 am
Important FYI for those of you who have a valid TOPIK score: it can serve in place of your level test.  For example, if you passed TOPIK level 4, you can go ahead and take level 5 of KIIP.  I just found this out today, so basically that means I took the level test for no reason and am now in a KIIP level 4 class when I could have advanced directly to the last class.  Now it's too late for me to change.  I heard nothing about this when I registered, my teacher blamed it on the website being in Korean but we all know this program is a mess.  When I registered I even input my TOPIK score, but even though they ask your score they apparently don't take it into account; you have to register another way.

I hope this helps someone, I'm pretty pissed that I went through all the trouble of requesting special time off work just to take level 4 when I could have gone directly to level five.

I have a Level 4 from the TOPIK test - do you know how I can register?

So I got into level 5 today.  You just take your TOPIK score sheet and alien card to the seventh floor of the Mokdong office and fill out a form, and they get you right in.  Except for the trip there it's not really a big deal, wish I knew about it earlier.  Not sure if it matters which immigration office you go to.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on April 19, 2016, 01:25:37 pm
has anyone taken the level 4 test?

i'm curious to know what to expect
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: shostager on April 19, 2016, 01:41:13 pm
I'm also curious about the test after taking level 5 - how in depth do they go? For example, I've heard that there are specific questions about dates and parts of the national anthem (which we didn't cover in any sort of detail in class).
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on April 19, 2016, 01:43:41 pm
has anyone taken the level 4 test?

i'm curious to know what to expect

Pretty much everything you learned in the book over your 100 hours will not be on the test.  When I did the interview part I think my question was like something about jobs and there was a picture of a fireman and a singer and something else and we had to describe what they all did. 

Pretty much the only thing relevant to what you learned in class is going to be the reading part during the interview where you have to read something and explain it. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on April 19, 2016, 01:48:44 pm
I'm also curious about the test after taking level 5 - how in depth do they go? For example, I've heard that there are specific questions about dates and parts of the national anthem (which we didn't cover in any sort of detail in class).

My level 5 final was very similar to my experience with level 4.  I found that every question had little to no relevance to anything I learned in class (a majority being the latter).  There were some reading questions where you had to choose the best summary of the passage, fill in the blanks, etc.  The interview portion was similar.  I prepared myself for answering questions about all the history and the national heroes and what not.  My reading part of the interview portion was about some guy going to visit his family in Gwangju for Chuseok.  Then the rest of the test was spent asking me about American Thanksgiving. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on April 19, 2016, 03:41:23 pm
has anyone taken the level 4 test?

i'm curious to know what to expect

Pretty much everything you learned in the book over your 100 hours will not be on the test.  When I did the interview part I think my question was like something about jobs and there was a picture of a fireman and a singer and something else and we had to describe what they all did. 

Pretty much the only thing relevant to what you learned in class is going to be the reading part during the interview where you have to read something and explain it.

woah really? the textbook had little to do with the test? that's actually really surprising

how was the writing? i heard something like 100-200 characters
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on April 19, 2016, 04:02:10 pm
has anyone taken the level 4 test?

i'm curious to know what to expect

Pretty much everything you learned in the book over your 100 hours will not be on the test.  When I did the interview part I think my question was like something about jobs and there was a picture of a fireman and a singer and something else and we had to describe what they all did. 

Pretty much the only thing relevant to what you learned in class is going to be the reading part during the interview where you have to read something and explain it.

woah really? the textbook had little to do with the test? that's actually really surprising

how was the writing? i heard something like 100-200 characters

You have to write at least 50 and no more than 200.  You have 5 minutes to write.  A chunk of your writing score is based on length.  Less than 50 is 0 points, 50-100 is like 2 points, and over 100 is full points (for length).  The questions are usually easy questions like "What are the good parts and bad parts of the internet?" (that was my level 5 question, but I forgot what my level 4 question was)  So even though it's only 5 minutes, you can fill up 200 spaces easily. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: kitty222 on April 20, 2016, 10:25:25 am
I'm also curious about the test after taking level 5 - how in depth do they go? For example, I've heard that there are specific questions about dates and parts of the national anthem (which we didn't cover in any sort of detail in class).

My level 5 final was very similar to my experience with level 4.  I found that every question had little to no relevance to anything I learned in class (a majority being the latter).  There were some reading questions where you had to choose the best summary of the passage, fill in the blanks, etc.  The interview portion was similar.  I prepared myself for answering questions about all the history and the national heroes and what not.  My reading part of the interview portion was about some guy going to visit his family in Gwangju for Chuseok.  Then the rest of the test was spent asking me about American Thanksgiving.
Am I the only one who walked out of that Level 5 exam knowing I had failed?
I am just freaking  out over all those crazy multiple choice questions.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on April 20, 2016, 10:32:03 am
I'm also curious about the test after taking level 5 - how in depth do they go? For example, I've heard that there are specific questions about dates and parts of the national anthem (which we didn't cover in any sort of detail in class).

My level 5 final was very similar to my experience with level 4.  I found that every question had little to no relevance to anything I learned in class (a majority being the latter).  There were some reading questions where you had to choose the best summary of the passage, fill in the blanks, etc.  The interview portion was similar.  I prepared myself for answering questions about all the history and the national heroes and what not.  My reading part of the interview portion was about some guy going to visit his family in Gwangju for Chuseok.  Then the rest of the test was spent asking me about American Thanksgiving.
Am I the only one who walked out of that Level 5 exam knowing I had failed?
I am just freaking  out over all those crazy multiple choice questions.

I actually took it twice.  Interestingly enough the first time I was confident I passed, but I didn't and the second time I was sure I failed and would have to sit through the class a third time, but passed. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: kitty222 on April 21, 2016, 12:39:00 pm
I'm also curious about the test after taking level 5 - how in depth do they go? For example, I've heard that there are specific questions about dates and parts of the national anthem (which we didn't cover in any sort of detail in class).

My level 5 final was very similar to my experience with level 4.  I found that every question had little to no relevance to anything I learned in class (a majority being the latter).  There were some reading questions where you had to choose the best summary of the passage, fill in the blanks, etc.  The interview portion was similar.  I prepared myself for answering questions about all the history and the national heroes and what not.  My reading part of the interview portion was about some guy going to visit his family in Gwangju for Chuseok.  Then the rest of the test was spent asking me about American Thanksgiving.
Am I the only one who walked out of that Level 5 exam knowing I had failed?
I am just freaking  out over all those crazy multiple choice questions.

I actually took it twice.  Interestingly enough the first time I was confident I passed, but I didn't and the second time I was sure I failed and would have to sit through the class a third time, but passed.
What did you think helped you pass the second time? I am still confused as to how they calculate the points?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on April 21, 2016, 12:53:11 pm
I'm also curious about the test after taking level 5 - how in depth do they go? For example, I've heard that there are specific questions about dates and parts of the national anthem (which we didn't cover in any sort of detail in class).

My level 5 final was very similar to my experience with level 4.  I found that every question had little to no relevance to anything I learned in class (a majority being the latter).  There were some reading questions where you had to choose the best summary of the passage, fill in the blanks, etc.  The interview portion was similar.  I prepared myself for answering questions about all the history and the national heroes and what not.  My reading part of the interview portion was about some guy going to visit his family in Gwangju for Chuseok.  Then the rest of the test was spent asking me about American Thanksgiving.
Am I the only one who walked out of that Level 5 exam knowing I had failed?
I am just freaking  out over all those crazy multiple choice questions.

I actually took it twice.  Interestingly enough the first time I was confident I passed, but I didn't and the second time I was sure I failed and would have to sit through the class a third time, but passed.
What did you think helped you pass the second time? I am still confused as to how they calculate the points?

I honestly don't know.  I guess I was more relaxed the second time.  I paid almost no attention (I was the student that was always on their phone) the second time I took the class.  Didn't matter since the material on the test isn't related to the class anyway.  Could also have been that I knew what to expect since I took it once before. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on April 21, 2016, 02:07:04 pm
anyway you suggest preparing for level 4, since it isn't really on the book? prepare the same way as for a topik test?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SmallBaguette on April 21, 2016, 03:11:36 pm
I'm also curious about the test after taking level 5 - how in depth do they go? For example, I've heard that there are specific questions about dates and parts of the national anthem (which we didn't cover in any sort of detail in class).

My level 5 final was very similar to my experience with level 4.  I found that every question had little to no relevance to anything I learned in class (a majority being the latter).  There were some reading questions where you had to choose the best summary of the passage, fill in the blanks, etc.  The interview portion was similar.  I prepared myself for answering questions about all the history and the national heroes and what not.  My reading part of the interview portion was about some guy going to visit his family in Gwangju for Chuseok.  Then the rest of the test was spent asking me about American Thanksgiving.
Am I the only one who walked out of that Level 5 exam knowing I had failed?
I am just freaking  out over all those crazy multiple choice questions.

I actually took it twice.  Interestingly enough the first time I was confident I passed, but I didn't and the second time I was sure I failed and would have to sit through the class a third time, but passed.
What did you think helped you pass the second time? I am still confused as to how they calculate the points?

I honestly don't know.  I guess I was more relaxed the second time.  I paid almost no attention (I was the student that was always on their phone) the second time I took the class.  Didn't matter since the material on the test isn't related to the class anyway.  Could also have been that I knew what to expect since I took it once before.

You can use your phone in the test?!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Mezoti97 on April 21, 2016, 03:34:45 pm
You can use your phone in the test?!

I think he meant he was using his phone during class the second time around when he took the class again.


I paid almost no attention (I was the student that was always on their phone) the second time I took the class
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on April 21, 2016, 04:12:50 pm
anyway you suggest preparing for level 4, since it isn't really on the book? prepare the same way as for a topik test?

That would be a good idea since the two biggest chunks of your score are from the reading test and the interview.  Maybe have a general understanding of the big cultural events, like going "home" for holidays or the pre-wedding rituals, etc*. During the interview part of the test, you have to read something and discuss it with the proctors and it is vaguely related to one cultural event you learned about, but it's easy to BS that even if you don't know. 

*The material covered in level 4 may've changed since I took it about a year ago. I do remember my level 5 teacher telling me they were planning on revamping the whole program for 2016. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on April 21, 2016, 04:30:26 pm
anyway you suggest preparing for level 4, since it isn't really on the book? prepare the same way as for a topik test?

That would be a good idea since the two biggest chunks of your score are from the reading test and the interview.  Maybe have a general understanding of the big cultural events, like going "home" for holidays or the pre-wedding rituals, etc*. During the interview part of the test, you have to read something and discuss it with the proctors and it is vaguely related to one cultural event you learned about, but it's easy to BS that even if you don't know. 

*The material covered in level 4 may've changed since I took it about a year ago. I do remember my level 5 teacher telling me they were planning on revamping the whole program for 2016.

i don't think it has changed yet. this is the material for our classes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIYGHLYm4hk

i do believe after july, they will be making changes. like there will be two different classes to choose from for level 5 or something. these days you only need 70 hours in class not 80.

ugh what's the point of taking 100 hours of course and to not be tested on any of it. well at least if i fail level 4, i heard you automatically pass the second time.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chuckd on April 21, 2016, 10:35:41 pm
Level 5 Test.

The first 10 to 15 questions are grammar questions. The grammar is from the Level 3 and 4 KIIP books. The remaining questions on the test are from the Level 5 book.

The 5 minute writing portion can be something from Level 4 or Level 5.

The speaking part is a piece of paper that they have you read then ask you questions. They'll ask a few additional questions related to Level 4 or 5.... and that's it. ;D

Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Program (Level 5)
Post by: chuckd on April 21, 2016, 10:42:18 pm
If you need extra help with Level 5 here is a video with some practice quiz questions for Lesson 1 & 2. The answers are in the description box. There is also a free download for the Level 5 book.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd8vuZRD0M0


I'll be posting the rest of the Level 5 lessons with the answers shortly. ^^
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: kitty222 on April 22, 2016, 09:30:21 am
Well all's well that ends well. I passed the freaking level 5 exam!!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: johnny russian on April 22, 2016, 09:50:23 am
FYI today is the last day to register for the next pre-test.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chuckd on April 26, 2016, 01:53:58 pm
KIIP - Level 5 - Lesson 1-50 - Quiz Questions

- Answers are in the Description Box
- PDF files for each KIIP book are also in the Description Box

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd8vuZRD0M0&index=1&list=PLl4RI1pH-8dHCTJh4ZsY96vIqQH0cTzof

Good Luck! ^^
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chuckd on April 26, 2016, 01:56:39 pm
KIIP - Level 5 - Practice Test Questions

- Answers are in the Description Box
- PDF files for each KIIP book are also in the Description Box

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwEgCpUROBo&list=PLl4RI1pH-8dGQaE3PFx0VPe7kUrXMU9pS&index=1

Good Luck! ^^
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on April 26, 2016, 02:19:00 pm
awesome thanks!

any tips for level 4 test?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chuckd on April 26, 2016, 03:01:13 pm
awesome thanks!

any tips for level 4 test?


Know the vocabulary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIYGHLYm4hk&index=2&list=PLl4RI1pH-8dFFreuIXth7KnS-xGkBFGf0

Study the Grammar.

Prepare to talk or write about... your character, food, special holidays...
Last year I had to write about reunification between South Korea and North Korea.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on April 28, 2016, 05:25:45 pm
Very long story to say I registered in time for the placement exam and will take the test on Saturday. Bonus: the site is finally working enough to tell me I am in fact taking the exam and where (kind of) the exam hall is.  Cheers!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: oatmealkooky on April 29, 2016, 07:59:50 am
I'm going to take the pretest tomorrow afternoon. Shooting for starting at level 3, but who knows.

It's just such a pain that each level is 100 hours. I mean, that's about five months if you go once a week for four or five hours. Yikes.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: nzer-in-gyeongnam on April 29, 2016, 08:21:59 am
I'm going to take the pretest tomorrow afternoon. Shooting for starting at level 3, but who knows.

It's just such a pain that each level is 100 hours. I mean, that's about five months if you go once a week for four or five hours. Yikes.

Usually if you are attending only once a week, its from 10am to 6pm - 10 hours a day. They do this so that it takes 2 to 2.5 months to get through all the material.

If you take the online option, it's 2 hours every day - Monday through Friday.

If you are able to take the day classes, its 3 hours a day, 3 days a week.

All of these are your options, depending on space availability and location.

Good luck with the placement exam.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ave, lucifer on April 29, 2016, 09:45:54 pm
I see there is a level test of some sort on the 7th of April but I don't seem to be able to register for it? Why is the site so difficult to navigate. I can't find much useful information on there.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on April 30, 2016, 02:11:28 pm
I took the placement exam today and here's my initial thoughts for others who will take it in the future.

Had to be in the classroom by 12:30 but the proctors were super nice and let people in way after that. Test started at 1 and went till 1:50. Since there were multiple crying babies in the hallway, the moms went first to the speaking exam (good call). There were 50 students scheduled to be in our class with maybe 40 showing up. I was the middle middle of that group so I had a decently long wait until the speaking exam. I finished the speaking part at 2:50, meaning they'll keep going on for awhile. This is worth noting as you really shouldn't schedule anything remotely close to the end of the exam because it could be a very long time until you are done and out.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: oatmealkooky on May 08, 2016, 07:30:55 pm
The proctors at my location were extremely rude, actually, shouting at test-takers in banmal and talking to each other as we took the test. Meh.

I can't get this POS Socinet website to accept my username and password now. Nothing has changed since I used it to sign up for the pretest, but now it just won't accept them. It tells me to try again and reloads the page. Anyone else had this problem before? I reset the password, looked up my username, everything is correct. I'm using this godforsaken Internet Explorer, too, so what else do they want?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: hellobby on May 09, 2016, 07:56:29 am
I took the level placement test on Apr 30 (Sat) in Daegu. Does anyone know when the results will come out  or when the classes will be? I thought it would come out within a week but my score still isn't online.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: johnny russian on May 09, 2016, 08:05:37 am
I took the level placement test on Apr 30 (Sat) in Daegu. Does anyone know when the results will come out  or when the classes will be? I thought it would come out within a week but my score still isn't online.

I didn't take it in Daegu, but I was told at my exam venue they would be out on the 11th of May.

usually takes about a week but i think it's longer this time because of the short week last week.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on May 09, 2016, 08:19:45 am
level 4 final test was harder than i expected.

the writing was easy. the oral exam wasn't hard per se but was a topic from level 3 which threw me off a little.

the multiple choice test felt very haphazard. it hardly felt relevant to what we studied. i get the feeling that they're using a test bank of questions made 10 years ago and haven't bothered to update it despite have many new books over that time. meh
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: hellobby on May 09, 2016, 01:20:16 pm
I didn't take it in Daegu, but I was told at my exam venue they would be out on the 11th of May.

usually takes about a week but i think it's longer this time because of the short week last week.

Oh that makes sense! Thanks so much! I will check it again towards the end  of this week then. :)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on May 09, 2016, 03:27:53 pm
They told us the results would be out by that Friday (6th). The holiday changed things but now I'll look toward the 11th as you heard.  Glad to know they didn't forget mine.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: HaLo3 on May 10, 2016, 10:38:14 am
I know I am late for this round, but I want to register so I can take the classes for the next semester, however, the site won't let me register. It says my name doesn't match my address or that my ARC number is wrong. No matter what I have tried fixing, there is always an error. Any tips?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Greenteabingsu on May 10, 2016, 11:41:09 am
I know I am late for this round, but I want to register so I can take the classes for the next semester, however, the site won't let me register. It says my name doesn't match my address or that my ARC number is wrong. No matter what I have tried fixing, there is always an error. Any tips?

I had the same issue until I put my name exactly as it is on my arc card last name, first, middle name all in caps. This website also has a step by step power point that helped :)
http://keytokorean.com/blog/tech/how-to-register-for-the-free-kiip-korean-class/
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: HaLo3 on May 10, 2016, 12:22:55 pm
I know I am late for this round, but I want to register so I can take the classes for the next semester, however, the site won't let me register. It says my name doesn't match my address or that my ARC number is wrong. No matter what I have tried fixing, there is always an error. Any tips?

I had the same issue until I put my name exactly as it is on my arc card last name, first, middle name all in caps. This website also has a step by step power point that helped :)
http://keytokorean.com/blog/tech/how-to-register-for-the-free-kiip-korean-class/
Oh that did it! Thanks! I don't know why the error message said anything about my address, but at least I got in.

EDIT:

So the next pretest is August 6, but I don't return from vacation until a few days after that. Is there anyway to postpone it or reschedule or am I stuck until the next semester after that?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: johnny russian on May 10, 2016, 03:22:51 pm
So the next pretest is August 6, but I don't return from vacation until a few days after that. Is there anyway to postpone it or reschedule or am I stuck until the next semester after that?

you would have to wait for the next pre-test after that one. don't register for the pre-test then because if you register but don't take it then you can be barred from taking it again for 1 year.

there is a potential workaround though. if you write the TOPIK test, you should be able to use your score on that for them to determine which level of the KIIP course you should be in. best to try call them and find out.

not sure when the TOPIK tests are run but i think they are more often than the KIIP pre-tests. there may be one before you leave for vacation that you can do.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: HaLo3 on May 10, 2016, 03:26:32 pm
So the next pretest is August 6, but I don't return from vacation until a few days after that. Is there anyway to postpone it or reschedule or am I stuck until the next semester after that?

you would have to wait for the next pre-test after that one. don't register for the pre-test then because if you register but don't take it then you can be barred from taking it again for 1 year.

there is a potential workaround though. if you write the TOPIK test, you should be able to use your score on that for them to determine which level of the KIIP course you should be in. best to try call them and find out.

not sure when the TOPIK tests are run but i think they are more often than the KIIP pre-tests. there may be one before you leave for vacation that you can do.
Oh well thats super disappointing. Ok, thanks. I will try the TOPIK thing.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: johnny russian on May 10, 2016, 03:29:52 pm
FYI for everyone who wrote the last pre-test the scores are out now on SOCINET!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: leighannsun on May 10, 2016, 05:58:11 pm
Would anyone recommend the online classes over the the local uni classes?

I also wanted to know if there are any repercussions to joining the program and then dropping out after starting it. The hours for the university are really long and I don't know if I can study that late especially when I'm usually in bed by 10:30pm. (classes are 6:30pm-9:30pm) I want to join but if I don't think it will help me then I want to drop it without any harm to my visa status or future visas for that matter. I got a level 3 but I don't think I deserve a level 3 since I didn't write down anything in the writing sections. ?_? Any help is welcome. Have a great first day with uni classes....that I missed...since I can't register till tomorrow with IE.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: myatae on May 10, 2016, 08:40:59 pm
I just checked my scores and classes in SOCINET (level 4), but it's mainly online classes and 3 offline classes during the afternoon in Gangwon-do. I was wondering if other classes will become available throughout the week.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: oatmealkooky on May 10, 2016, 11:41:32 pm
Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of online stuff and nothing for the Daegu area. I guess keep checking off and on in the coming days...?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: zizitaji on May 11, 2016, 08:00:24 am
So the next pretest is August 6, but I don't return from vacation until a few days after that. Is there anyway to postpone it or reschedule or am I stuck until the next semester after that?

you would have to wait for the next pre-test after that one. don't register for the pre-test then because if you register but don't take it then you can be barred from taking it again for 1 year.

there is a potential workaround though. if you write the TOPIK test, you should be able to use your score on that for them to determine which level of the KIIP course you should be in. best to try call them and find out.

not sure when the TOPIK tests are run but i think they are more often than the KIIP pre-tests. there may be one before you leave for vacation that you can do.

Is this true? I registered for the one back in November, but didn't attend. I'm listed as a now show/absent, but I was still able to take this past pre-test.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on May 11, 2016, 08:30:39 am
I just checked my scores and classes in SOCINET (level 4), but it's mainly online classes and 3 offline classes during the afternoon in Gangwon-do. I was wondering if other classes will become available throughout the week.

when i was in gwangju, i don't think there were any classes offered in the evenings. maybe one or two on the weekend, but mostly during the day. i was forced to take online classes. ymmv
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: oatmealkooky on May 11, 2016, 08:39:15 am
These class listings don't really specify which days they're on or at what times. How do we figure that out?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: jinteh on May 11, 2016, 09:04:45 am
These class listings don't really specify which days they're on or at what times. How do we figure that out?

In my class listings, the center column shows the time (온라인(11-13시)). When you click on the class, the next page should show the date and time for every class.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: oatmealkooky on May 11, 2016, 09:30:56 am
Of course. I was clicking on the wrong parts. This site is so bad.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: commapotterjoe on May 11, 2016, 10:29:21 am
Does anyone know how quickly these classes fill up (in Seoul)?

Is it worth being online at midnight as soon as they're open for registration?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on May 11, 2016, 10:40:05 am
I see like 8 online classes and only 2 offline classes in a city like 2 hour drive from here (level 3) and nothing in Daejeon. Sounds like the offline classes haven't been uploaded yet...? 

I can click on the online classes, the timetable and teacher name show up, I can select WHY I need an online class, but I don't see anyway to apply to take it. The only available button is to go back to the previous page listing.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: jinteh on May 11, 2016, 11:58:59 am
I can click on the online classes, the timetable and teacher name show up, I can select WHY I need an online class, but I don't see anyway to apply to take it. The only available button is to go back to the previous page listing.

Check the dates in the 'application period' column. The apply button will show up during that time (5/12-18).

It shows some people have already signed up, but I think registering before the 12th is only for those that are pregnant or have kids. The rest of us after.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Greenteabingsu on May 11, 2016, 12:09:40 pm
Does anyone have experience with requesting to change a level? I was tested into Beginner 2 level at the pretest but I would feel much better starting beginner 1. Is there a number for KIIP?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: johnny russian on May 11, 2016, 01:00:54 pm
Does anyone have experience with requesting to change a level? I was tested into Beginner 2 level at the pretest but I would feel much better starting beginner 1. Is there a number for KIIP?

each area/city should have a local coordinator person for the program there. i got the number of mine by phoning immigration on 1345, who put me through to my local immigration office, who then gave me the number of my person.

good luck doing any of this in english though. most of the people at my local immigration office barely speak english.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: silver_angel on May 11, 2016, 02:10:16 pm

I also wanted to know if there are any repercussions to joining the program and then dropping out after starting it. The hours for the university are really long and I don't know if I can study that late especially when I'm usually in bed by 10:30pm. (classes are 6:30pm-9:30pm) I want to join but if I don't think it will help me then I want to drop it without any harm to my visa status or future visas for that matter. I got a level 3 but I don't think I deserve a level 3 since I didn't write down anything in the writing sections. ?_? Any help is welcome. Have a great first day with uni classes....that I missed...since I can't register till tomorrow with IE.

You can take a break and they will put you on "leave" which means you can save the hours that you have studied up until your drop out point and then resume the class later.

You have to request that though, on your account through the webpage, if you don't say anything and just leave the class, then they'll just keep marking you absent until you are basically kicked out of the program and put on hold for 2 years. You have to do it through the webpage even if you have notified the teacher.

Other than that, if you decide to stop altogether, it won't affect anything.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on May 11, 2016, 02:16:20 pm
@jinteh
Thanks mate, I didn't pay attention to the application period as I saw some people had already successfully applied so I figured it was open for all.

I also see another offline class was added to the list. So it looks like they are still adding more. Crossing my fingers for a closer location.

Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: leighannsun on May 11, 2016, 02:26:50 pm

I also wanted to know if there are any repercussions to joining the program and then dropping out after starting it. The hours for the university are really long and I don't know if I can study that late especially when I'm usually in bed by 10:30pm. (classes are 6:30pm-9:30pm) I want to join but if I don't think it will help me then I want to drop it without any harm to my visa status or future visas for that matter. I got a level 3 but I don't think I deserve a level 3 since I didn't write down anything in the writing sections. ?_? Any help is welcome. Have a great first day with uni classes....that I missed...since I can't register till tomorrow with IE.

You can take a break and they will put you on "leave" which means you can save the hours that you have studied up until your drop out point and then resume the class later.

You have to request that though, on your account through the webpage, if you don't say anything and just leave the class, then they'll just keep marking you absent until you are basically kicked out of the program and put on hold for 2 years. You have to do it through the webpage even if you have notified the teacher.

Other than that, if you decide to stop altogether, it won't affect anything.

Thanks so much for responding! I texted the coordinator (proctor at the pre-test in my area) and he hasn't responded so I've been freaking out. :O
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Greenteabingsu on May 11, 2016, 02:53:49 pm
Does anyone have experience with requesting to change a level? I was tested into Beginner 2 level at the pretest but I would feel much better starting beginner 1. Is there a number for KIIP?

each area/city should have a local coordinator person for the program there. i got the number of mine by phoning immigration on 1345, who put me through to my local immigration office, who then gave me the number of my person.

good luck doing any of this in english though. most of the people at my local immigration office barely speak english.

Thanks! I'll call 1345 to ask for the coordinator info and hopefully I can get a co-teacher to call for me.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: oatmealkooky on May 11, 2016, 08:07:01 pm
So in Daegu the Saturday classes are at Kyungil University (호산대학교, it says, but it's at the same campus as Kyungil, go figure). From downtown Daegu that's about an hour by bus or by bus/subway, as it's very near a subway station.

You'd think they'd try to make these things closer to a central location. I can only imagine how screwed someone is if they live on the opposite side of Daegu. Even with a car it's really, really far.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rowdes on May 12, 2016, 09:22:33 am
So, I called one of the locations in Daegu (계명대학교) and was told that depending on your test level, there may/may not be classes available until a later date.

If you are looking for a certain place/time to study at, and it's not currently on the sign up list; you will probably have to wait until the next semester. In my case, I was told to wait until July.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on May 12, 2016, 03:51:22 pm
Quote
So, I called one of the locations in Daegu (계명대학교) and was told that depending on your test level, there may/may not be classes available until a later date.

If you are looking for a certain place/time to study at, and it's not currently on the sign up list; you will probably have to wait until the next semester. In my case, I was told to wait until July.
Ouch, I was with several hundred people taking the placement exam so it's rather odd to see nothing for my level (intermediate 1) in all of Daejeon. So it looks like my choices are a 2 hour drive each way, internet classes, or wait until end of summer.  Hmm...
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: meganb on May 12, 2016, 08:33:18 pm
Hi! This is my first time applying to the KIIP program. I took the test in Busan, and a friend and I aren't sure whether or not we're missing something on the site. We can both see the list of online classes, but we need to apply for in-person classes. Has anyone in Busan seen the locations yet? Is the correct thing to do to click both the buttons that are applications for the "vicarious class" as well as "deputizing attendance?" Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Seoulcutie on May 13, 2016, 12:31:51 am
I stupidly fell asleep and didn't wake up at midnight to apply for the class I wanted. Of course it's full now and I've been waiting since November....

I am looking to get points for the f-2 visa and am confused about the extra 10 points for completing KIIP. Do you have to do levels 1-5 of the program in order to get the extra 10 points or can you just do level 5 with them and get the certificate?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on May 13, 2016, 07:32:19 am
I stupidly fell asleep and didn't wake up at midnight to apply for the class I wanted. Of course it's full now and I've been waiting since November....

I am looking to get points for the f-2 visa and am confused about the extra 10 points for completing KIIP. Do you have to do levels 1-5 of the program in order to get the extra 10 points or can you just do level 5 with them and get the certificate?

you can just do level 5 if you test into it or have TOPIK level 4.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: obscuremirage on May 13, 2016, 07:37:11 am
I stupidly fell asleep and didn't wake up at midnight to apply for the class I wanted. Of course it's full now and I've been waiting since November....

I am looking to get points for the f-2 visa and am confused about the extra 10 points for completing KIIP. Do you have to do levels 1-5 of the program in order to get the extra 10 points or can you just do level 5 with them and get the certificate?
MY classes always started at 15 people (to max out at) and increased up to 55. Sometimes you can email the teacher in charge of the class to add you to it( I know several people who used this method), or keep checking to see if space keeps increasing. Hope you can get in to the one you want!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: obscuremirage on May 13, 2016, 07:42:40 am
Hi! This is my first time applying to the KIIP program. I took the test in Busan, and a friend and I aren't sure whether or not we're missing something on the site. We can both see the list of online classes, but we need to apply for in-person classes. Has anyone in Busan seen the locations yet? Is the correct thing to do to click both the buttons that are applications for the "vicarious class" as well as "deputizing attendance?" Thanks for your help!

Online classes are always posted first and a few days later or maybe a week later in person classes are posted. At least that was my experience with the program. Keep checking the website.^^
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on May 16, 2016, 02:14:29 pm
So I was lucky enough to successfully apply for one of the online classes (woohoo) but just got a phone call that said because I don't have a kid and am not pregnant, those people get priority and I get bumped. She explained there aren't many pregnancies right now but a lot of people with kids and not just during the online class time-frame I was aiming for but for all the times.

"But the nearest offline class is a 90 minute drive."
"I work nights /weekends as necessary."
Nether of these mattered.

Grrrrrr (in place of the profanity I wish to shout out)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on May 16, 2016, 02:49:52 pm
So I was lucky enough to successfully apply for one of the online classes (woohoo) but just got a phone call that said because I don't have a kid and am not pregnant, those people get priority and I get bumped. She explained there aren't many pregnancies right now but a lot of people with kids and not just during the online class time-frame I was aiming for but for all the times.

"But the nearest offline class is a 90 minute drive."
"I work nights /weekends as necessary."
Nether of these mattered.

Grrrrrr (in place of the profanity I wish to shout out)

that sucks i was able to take 2 levels online
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on May 16, 2016, 02:57:51 pm
So I was lucky enough to successfully apply for one of the online classes (woohoo) but just got a phone call that said because I don't have a kid and am not pregnant, those people get priority and I get bumped. She explained there aren't many pregnancies right now but a lot of people with kids and not just during the online class time-frame I was aiming for but for all the times.

"But the nearest offline class is a 90 minute drive."
"I work nights /weekends as necessary."
Nether of these mattered.

Grrrrrr (in place of the profanity I wish to shout out)

that sucks i was able to take 2 levels online

It is luck of the draw sadly with the online classes.  I had to take level 4 twice and the second time, I was able to do it online.  I had my first level 4 teacher contact the people that run the program and she explained that I worked many Saturdays and my work schedule conflicted with in-person classes on weekdays, so when a spot opened up, I had priority.  I also live in Seoul and am male, which my online level 4 teacher was shocked to find out.  Maybe if you get a Korean person to call and talk to them, you could have a similar experience. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on May 16, 2016, 06:23:46 pm
So I was lucky enough to successfully apply for one of the online classes (woohoo) but just got a phone call that said because I don't have a kid and am not pregnant, those people get priority and I get bumped. She explained there aren't many pregnancies right now but a lot of people with kids and not just during the online class time-frame I was aiming for but for all the times.

"But the nearest offline class is a 90 minute drive."
"I work nights /weekends as necessary."
Nether of these mattered.

Grrrrrr (in place of the profanity I wish to shout out)

that sucks i was able to take 2 levels online

It is luck of the draw sadly with the online classes.  I had to take level 4 twice and the second time, I was able to do it online.  I had my first level 4 teacher contact the people that run the program and she explained that I worked many Saturdays and my work schedule conflicted with in-person classes on weekdays, so when a spot opened up, I had priority.  I also live in Seoul and am male, which my online level 4 teacher was shocked to find out.  Maybe if you get a Korean person to call and talk to them, you could have a similar experience.

i failed the 4th level test. did u auto-pass the second time?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on May 16, 2016, 06:37:02 pm
So I was lucky enough to successfully apply for one of the online classes (woohoo) but just got a phone call that said because I don't have a kid and am not pregnant, those people get priority and I get bumped. She explained there aren't many pregnancies right now but a lot of people with kids and not just during the online class time-frame I was aiming for but for all the times.

"But the nearest offline class is a 90 minute drive."
"I work nights /weekends as necessary."
Nether of these mattered.

Grrrrrr (in place of the profanity I wish to shout out)

that sucks i was able to take 2 levels online

It is luck of the draw sadly with the online classes.  I had to take level 4 twice and the second time, I was able to do it online.  I had my first level 4 teacher contact the people that run the program and she explained that I worked many Saturdays and my work schedule conflicted with in-person classes on weekdays, so when a spot opened up, I had priority.  I also live in Seoul and am male, which my online level 4 teacher was shocked to find out.  Maybe if you get a Korean person to call and talk to them, you could have a similar experience.

i failed the 4th level test. did u auto-pass the second time?

Yeah it was an automatic pass the second time.  I don't know if that was changed recently though.  I was told by my old teacher that there was talk of changing it to where you have to keep taking the class every time you fail.  I finished the program in January, so I'm not 100% sure about the rules for 2016 (in regards to any changes they may've made). 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: oatmealkooky on May 16, 2016, 09:21:24 pm
What is the auto-pass stuff?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on May 16, 2016, 09:24:12 pm
What is the auto-pass stuff?

In recent years, it's been that if you failed the mid-term test for level 1-4 once, you automatically move up to the next level after taking the class a second time (you don't even register for the mid-term exam the second time) and if you failed the level 5 test twice, you automatically finished the program after completing the class a third time. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: oatmealkooky on May 16, 2016, 09:26:18 pm
Ha ha. A huge loss of time, but can't complain about the results.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on May 17, 2016, 07:26:00 am
What is the auto-pass stuff?

In recent years, it's been that if you failed the mid-term test for level 1-4 once, you automatically move up to the next level after taking the class a second time (you don't even register for the mid-term exam the second time) and if you failed the level 5 test twice, you automatically finished the program after completing the class a third time.

i believe this was still the case as of early may. -might- change in july as i think they're changing around the program.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chuckd on May 17, 2016, 08:29:00 am
사회통합프로그램(KIIP) 한국사회이해과정 - Level 5 VIDEOS & QUIZ QUESTIONS

In the playlist you'll find all 50 Video Lessons for the Level 5 book. Big thanks to the Ministry of Justice for posting these videos!^^
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfGXmT98-zWlEE_Eu7QAUpw
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: kimchiexpat on May 17, 2016, 09:37:42 am
I have received some information from Gwangju International Center (GIC) regarding upcoming changes in KIIP. Below is as received.

"If you take more than 70hours you donít fail for Level 1~4(You have to take more than 9hours for Level 0)
 
Level 5,
You need more than 80%(40hours) attendance requirement to pass the KIIP Level 5(until July 16, 2016).

There will be changes for Level 5 and TEST in July 17, 2016.

KINAT: Korean Immigration and Naturalization Aptitude Test)

KIPRAT: Korean Immigration and permanent Residence Aptitude Test)
 
Until July 16, 2016
KINAT: Course hours: 50. Attendance requirement: 40 hours.

From July 17, 2016
KIPRAT: Course hours:50. Attendance requirement: 35 hours.
KINAT: Basic course: 50 hours + Naturalization course: 20 hours. Attendance requirement: basic course 35 hours + naturlization course 14 hours"

Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: oatmealkooky on May 17, 2016, 09:41:11 am
But you still have to take tests for levels 1 through 4?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: kimchiexpat on May 17, 2016, 09:48:31 am
But you still have to take tests for levels 1 through 4?

Yes you have to take test for every level. All other policies are unchanged. Like auto-passing after failing a test and re-taking level classes for level 1-4 and auto-passing level 5 after failing test twice and then taking level 5 classes.

Edit: addition and correction
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on May 17, 2016, 10:40:46 am
But you still have to take tests for levels 1 through 4?

i think the first part refers to having only 70 hours of class instead of the 80 required.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chuckd on May 17, 2016, 11:53:45 am
KIIP Answer Sheet(OMR) - How to fill it out

Videos on how to fill out your KIIP answer sheet. 6 different languages. English, Korean, Vietnamese, Chinese, Cambodian and Mongolian.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLl4RI1pH-8dEfW0uw_Z85AjJGeLHvV4TR
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: hellobby on May 17, 2016, 12:04:17 pm
I passed the pre-test to level 3! However, the only class I can take is online 6-8pm. But all 9 spots have already been filled. I've been checking back every day for the past few days hoping more online and offline classes will show up for the evening but none seem to be showing up.

So I'm thinking I'm gonna need to take the class next semester... Is this gonna affect me in any way? Should I let them know or will I need to take the pre-test again?

I can't believe they're only offering one after-work hours class for level 3 in Daegu.... -_-
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chuckd on May 19, 2016, 08:13:00 am
I passed the pre-test to level 3! However, the only class I can take is online 6-8pm. But all 9 spots have already been filled. I've been checking back every day for the past few days hoping more online and offline classes will show up for the evening but none seem to be showing up.

So I'm thinking I'm gonna need to take the class next semester... Is this gonna affect me in any way? Should I let them know or will I need to take the pre-test again?

I can't believe they're only offering one after-work hours class for level 3 in Daegu.... -_-



If I were you I would keep checking. Sometimes they post more classes. You need to check a couple times throughout the day.

If you can't get in. You can try again next semester. It won't affect you in any way and you don't need to take the pre-test again ^^
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: me2ffc on May 21, 2016, 07:22:30 pm
I was able to register for a class. However, I want to change to a different class time, but all the spots are now filled. Anyone knows how I can change my class to another location and time?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chuckd on May 23, 2016, 10:39:24 am
KIIP - Level 5 - VOCABULARY & TEXTBOOKS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03rYKM2DXy4

Look in the description box for the free textbooks.

0 ----------- KIIP - Pre-Beginner
Level 1 ----------- KIIP - Beginner 1
Level 2 ----------- KIIP - Beginner 2
Level 3 ----------- KIIP - Intermediate 1
Level 4 ----------- KIIP - Intermediate 2
Level 5 ----------- KIIP - Advanced

*Big thanks to the original posters on memrise.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: shostager on May 23, 2016, 11:01:18 am
Our teacher said we'd have an interview with someone from Immigration this week during class time (level 5). She didn't know anything about the purpose of the interview, or what questions they would ask, although she guessed it'd be things like "How many siblings do you have?"

Anyone with experience on this? What is this interview, really? I thought it was maybe the interview where they see if you have enough points to get the visa, but that seems like it should come after you actually pass the class...
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: hellobby on May 24, 2016, 10:22:53 am
I passed the pre-test to level 3! However, the only class I can take is online 6-8pm. But all 9 spots have already been filled. I've been checking back every day for the past few days hoping more online and offline classes will show up for the evening but none seem to be showing up.

So I'm thinking I'm gonna need to take the class next semester... Is this gonna affect me in any way? Should I let them know or will I need to take the pre-test again?

I can't believe they're only offering one after-work hours class for level 3 in Daegu.... -_-



If I were you I would keep checking. Sometimes they post more classes. You need to check a couple times throughout the day.

If you can't get in. You can try again next semester. It won't affect you in any way and you don't need to take the pre-test again ^^

Thanks so much for the info! I've been checking and it seems like I won't be able to join this semester. :( Do you happen to know around when I can sign up for next semester? :)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: silver_angel on May 24, 2016, 02:18:06 pm
I passed the pre-test to level 3! However, the only class I can take is online 6-8pm. But all 9 spots have already been filled. I've been checking back every day for the past few days hoping more online and offline classes will show up for the evening but none seem to be showing up.

So I'm thinking I'm gonna need to take the class next semester... Is this gonna affect me in any way? Should I let them know or will I need to take the pre-test again?

I can't believe they're only offering one after-work hours class for level 3 in Daegu.... -_-



If I were you I would keep checking. Sometimes they post more classes. You need to check a couple times throughout the day.

If you can't get in. You can try again next semester. It won't affect you in any way and you don't need to take the pre-test again ^^

Thanks so much for the info! I've been checking and it seems like I won't be able to join this semester. :( Do you happen to know around when I can sign up for next semester? :)

I would make a note of the end date for the current classes. Usually, the new classes are posted either immediately after those classes end, or very close before or after the end date. So just keep an eye out then. Also, sometimes they randomly post new online classes in the middle(but I've noticed that's usually in the fall)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chuckd on June 30, 2016, 02:15:44 pm
This is the certificate for finishing the whole program!^^

KIIP - Level 3,4 & 5 - Vocabulary & Textbooks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSGdVOzwlMY&index=1&list=PLl4RI1pH-8dFFreuIXth7KnS-xGkBFGf0

KIIP - Level 5 - Practice Test Questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwEgCpUROBo&index=1&list=PLl4RI1pH-8dGQaE3PFx0VPe7kUrXMU9pS

KIIP - Level 5 - Lesson 1-50 - Quiz Questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd8vuZRD0M0&index=1&list=PLl4RI1pH-8dHCTJh4ZsY96vIqQH0cTzof
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: lieueez on July 15, 2016, 11:18:15 am
Has anyone taken the Level 3 test in May/June 2016 (중급1)? I've heard they changed the test and that it has become a lot more difficult. I'm preparing for the test, but from what other people said in my class (who failed it the first time) it's pretty hopeless to just study what is in the book.

I don't really understand this, because the Level 2 test (in June 2016) was so easy.  I just studied the book and the test pretty much followed the material in the book.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: salkdj1sj on July 15, 2016, 11:35:20 am
Our teacher said we'd have an interview with someone from Immigration this week during class time (level 5). She didn't know anything about the purpose of the interview, or what questions they would ask, although she guessed it'd be things like "How many siblings do you have?"

Anyone with experience on this? What is this interview, really? I thought it was maybe the interview where they see if you have enough points to get the visa, but that seems like it should come after you actually pass the class...

Before you go, you fill in a paper in class where you put all your info in and why you're taking the course and whether or not you have questions about immigration. For example you want to change a visa so you can go over the required documents or you want information about acquiring citizenship etc. Even if you don't have any questions, you have to go in order to pass the course. However, it's not a test situation kind of thing, no pass or fail. Just showing up means you're good to go.

I asked a question about changing visa and she took my email address down to get back to me. She never did haha.

Has anyone taken the Level 3 test in May/June 2016 (중급1)? I've heard they changed the test and that it has become a lot more difficult. I'm preparing for the test, but from what other people said in my class (who failed it the first time) it's pretty hopeless to just study what is in the book.

I don't really understand this, because the Level 2 test (in June 2016) was so easy.  I just studied the book and the test pretty much followed the material in the book.

I took the class last year but even then, I felt that the exam didn't follow the book quite well. There was new grammar that we didn't go through in our class and some cultural questions were also pulled out of thin air....
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on July 15, 2016, 11:53:26 am
I took the online course for level 3 and the test came from the textbook completely. However, the level 4 in person one definitely was pulled out of thin air. Some of it was from level 3 others seemed to be fresh. I honestly think they just have old tests that someone made like 8 years ago or whenever the program started and no one has bothered to update them as they've done new books.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: oatmealkooky on July 16, 2016, 04:55:34 pm
A couple of quick questions from myself and some people in my level 3 class.

First, how many hours can you miss without having it held against you? Some people are wondering if they can duck out for a quick vacation. (We have a weekend class.)

And second, where do the test materials come from, and can we get a leg up on the contents? Not the answers -- we just wanna know if there are things we should focus on in particular and things we can put aside.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: lieueez on July 17, 2016, 09:12:08 pm
A couple of quick questions from myself and some people in my level 3 class.

First, how many hours can you miss without having it held against you? Some people are wondering if they can duck out for a quick vacation. (We have a weekend class.)

And second, where do the test materials come from, and can we get a leg up on the contents? Not the answers -- we just wanna know if there are things we should focus on in particular and things we can put aside.

I'm in Level 3 as well. You need 70 hours of class minimum to take the test. The reading test is 35-40 questions and you have 30 minutes to finish. The speaking test lasts for 5 minutes. Reading is 70% of your total score and speaking is 30%. I checked everything above directly with KIIP so it *shoud* be correct.   I think you need a 60% to pass the level, but I've heard my teacher and other people say 70%. I'm going to call KIIP and check. I believe a pass for level 2 is 70% and level 3 is 60%.

I think if you study the book you'll be fine. There will probably be some grammar questions too, but if you study the practice questions from 10과 20과 you can figure out what exceptions/irregulars will come out. But I've also heard the level 3 test has changed and is much more difficult with material on it that isn't in the book. So... who knows?!?!? Guess we'll just have to take it and find out.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: oatmealkooky on July 17, 2016, 09:32:14 pm
Yikes. Well, at least we're in the ballpark of what to do and expect. Thanks!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: JenH on July 18, 2016, 11:14:23 am
I took the Level 3 test this May~ will try to summarise the key points, but some things may vary from venue to venue.

- As previously said, you need to have attended a minimum of 70 class hours to be eligible for the test.

- The pass mark is 60% (iirc 말하기/speaking is worth 30% and 필기/written is worth 70%).

- 말하기/Speaking test was first. We went in groups of 4 and this portion lasted about 20 minutes, although you're individually speaking for only about 5 minutes.

- 필기/Written test started after every group had completed the speaking test. We had 30 minutes for 30 multiple-choice questions, iirc. However, our examiner noted that our paper seemed particularly difficult (basically, none of us would have finished within 30 minutes :huh:), so we were given 15 minutes of extra time.

The questions for both the speaking and written tests were not lifted directly from the textbook, and did not come solely from the Level 3 textbook. Some of the test topics seem to have come from the Level 2 book, as well. I took the level test and entered straight into Level 3, so I had never seen some of the material or vocabulary that appeared in the test paper ㅠㅠ

That being said, as long as you have a good general knowledge of grammar, you should be fine!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: shostager on July 18, 2016, 11:36:14 am
Just took the level 5 test, so here's my two cents:

We did the writing test first - I would recommend practicing this, since I haven't had to write one character to a box, or try to figure out how to get as close as I could to 200 characters without going over. It's a format that they don't teach, so teach yourself! (5 minutes - 200 characters - simple question)

Multiple Choice! The first 10 or so questions were all grammar points, mostly difficult, which may or may not have been covered in level 4 (I don't remember very well, but there was no attention paid at all to grammar in the level 5 class). The rest mostly showed you some bullet points or a paragraph, and asked you either A) what is this about? or B) which words go in the blanks? Not strongly related to the practice tests you can find on Youtube.

Speaking Test: They took us 2-by-2. We had to read (in our head) a paragraph, summarize it, talk about how it relates to our experience (holidays), talk about a famous Korean person, then tell the reasons for the low birthrate in Korea and offer some solutions.

(mini-rant: I had to wait about an hour and 20 minutes to take the speaking test, after the multiple choice. They didn't tell us the order, and continued to call me by my middle name during the test, even after corrected. >end rant)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on July 29, 2016, 12:46:22 pm
I just took the test for online class level 3.

20 questions of multi choice
Group speaking of 2 ~3 ppl per group

The speaking consisted of 3 parts, the first two were related (1st was related well and 2nd ...eh..okay but the practice test the day before was harder.) And then the third part was a back and forth between us which was completely unrelated and way too open to properly judge. I have zero idea what kind of answers they were looking for with the speaking and after each answer one of the two teachers always said "잘했어요".

I took this class knowing it would kick my rear end (had waaay to much other work to do + my full time job + this class) but it was free and learning is learning. Worst case I take the class again and use the same book with same vocab and grammar and then by then I'll really know it.

I honestly have no idea if I passed or not but will find out on Monday.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Lawrence on July 29, 2016, 03:34:22 pm
I have a few questions regarding the TOPIK test. I hope someone here has some reliable information. I tried calling the Immigration 1345" line and that wasn't very helpful and then I was able to speak with someone from the TOPIK testing center and she was a bit better but still not helpful enough. I hope I'm not posting in the wrong place, so let me just ask a question.
1. The 사회통합 프로그람 is the set of classes that are structured in 5 units that prepare you to take the TOPIK exam, is that correct? If so then,

2. I'm on an F-6 visa which is the 결혼이민. So I want to know can I take the TOPIK just using the online study guides without attending the 사회통합 프로그람? I tried taking them a couple of times and I didn't find the classes to be as helpful as I expected. I'm fairly certain that you can but I just want to be sure.

3. I heard that taking the TOPIK test can help you to get points towards a higher visa like the F-2. *This is the main questions* There are several different levels of the TOPIK exam so if I take the Level 1 sublevel 1, which is the lowest level, will I get some points if I pass it or do I need to pass some middle level before I can get some points, or do I need to pass the whole test?

4. Is there a website that shows how many points for each level? Information changes quickly. This year I've noticed many new sites about the TOPIK exam and it is hard to find some older ones, also it doesn't seem like the info is very in depth, just general stuff.

I get the feeling that getting points for immigration through this test is not a main reason why it is taken but as you decide to try to move up the immigration ladder you need to take language tests and even if you didn't it is still a good idea to be able to speak well. I hope this post is in the right place.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Lawrence on July 29, 2016, 07:59:11 pm
Does anyone know how accurate this info still is? http://www.electrow.com/visa-2/
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Lawrence on July 29, 2016, 08:03:56 pm
What about the info here? https://bmvanhise.wordpress.com/2015/07/16/f2-visa-upgrading-your-life-in-korea-pt-ii/ It is from last year, it is in the MS Word document at the top of the site.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on July 29, 2016, 11:53:02 pm
So KIIP (사회통합...) and TOPIK are completely different things. KIIP are language classes that also teach some culture, but the focus is clearly language. It is open at all (?) expats living in Korea. The program is not open to people living outside of Korea as this program is to help people to improve their life in Korea by improving their language ability.

TOPIK is a language test to see what your Korean abilities are. They offer the test inside Korea (more often) and outside Korea (less often). Anyone that registers and pays the money can test the exam.

You can take KIIP to prepare for the TOPIK, but is not necessary.

The TOPIK exam was Beginner 1, 2   Intermediate 1, 2   Advanced 1, 2   = 3 exams
And now they changed it to Beg 1, 2   and Int/advanced 3, 4, 5, 6   =  2 exams

The wordpress website has the MS Word file in English and Korean. Immigration last changed the point values summer 2015, so the links they give are current. I called Immigration recently to ask when the values will change (they have changed several times) and they told me they don't have advanced information; when the government makes a public announcement they hear it at the same time.

As you already have a F-6 visa, trying to get the F-2-7 (the points based visa you are talking about) really seems unnecessary as you already have the F-6. Getting the F-2-7 helps people that did not marry a local. The idea is Korea wants qualified/unique/highly skilled, etc. foreigners to live in Korea and giving them residency (the F-2-7) helps add incentive for them to come and stay in Korea. The more "qualified" you are, the more points you can get toward the 80 needed to get the F-2-7 (a total of 120 points are possible). Take the numbers you "earned" for each category, add them together, and if you get 80 or higher you can "earn" a F-2-7 residency visa.

So look at the English Word file you mentioned. Different ages have different points, different salaries have different points, different Korean abilities have different points, and under "extra points" include completing the KIIP program worth a bonus 10 points. If someone is taking KIIP classes to help them get the F-2-7, it will really help them if they finish the top KIIP level (level 5). Or again, learning the language through KIIP could help them raise their ability to a higher level, so if they take the TOPIK they can score higher and get more points.

I really didn't read much of the links you gave. But the Wordpress page says:
"Now, most participants will need to take part in KIIP (Korean Immigration Integration Program, ..."
That is because it is hard to get the 80 points needed and KIIP (especially completing it) can help to get more points.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Lawrence on July 30, 2016, 08:47:42 am
So KIIP (사회통합...) and TOPIK are completely different things. KIIP are language classes that also teach some culture, but the focus is clearly language. It is open at all (?) expats living in Korea. The program is not open to people living outside of Korea as this program is to help people to improve their life in Korea by improving their language ability.

TOPIK is a language test to see what your Korean abilities are. They offer the test inside Korea (more often) and outside Korea (less often). Anyone that registers and pays the money can test the exam.

You can take KIIP to prepare for the TOPIK, but is not necessary.

The TOPIK exam was Beginner 1, 2   Intermediate 1, 2   Advanced 1, 2   = 3 exams
And now they changed it to Beg 1, 2   and Int/advanced 3, 4, 5, 6   =  2 exams

The wordpress website has the MS Word file in English and Korean. Immigration last changed the point values summer 2015, so the links they give are current. I called Immigration recently to ask when the values will change (they have changed several times) and they told me they don't have advanced information; when the government makes a public announcement they hear it at the same time.

As you already have a F-6 visa, trying to get the F-2-7 (the points based visa you are talking about) really seems unnecessary as you already have the F-6. Getting the F-2-7 helps people that did not marry a local. The idea is Korea wants qualified/unique/highly skilled, etc. foreigners to live in Korea and giving them residency (the F-2-7) helps add incentive for them to come and stay in Korea. The more "qualified" you are, the more points you can get toward the 80 needed to get the F-2-7 (a total of 120 points are possible). Take the numbers you "earned" for each category, add them together, and if you get 80 or higher you can "earn" a F-2-7 residency visa.

So look at the English Word file you mentioned. Different ages have different points, different salaries have different points, different Korean abilities have different points, and under "extra points" include completing the KIIP program worth a bonus 10 points. If someone is taking KIIP classes to help them get the F-2-7, it will really help them if they finish the top KIIP level (level 5). Or again, learning the language through KIIP could help them raise their ability to a higher level, so if they take the TOPIK they can score higher and get more points.

I really didn't read much of the links you gave. But the Wordpress page says:
"Now, most participants will need to take part in KIIP (Korean Immigration Integration Program, ..."
That is because it is hard to get the 80 points needed and KIIP (especially completing it) can help to get more points.

So then what is above the F-2-7 visa, citizenship? The beginning part of your post had info that I am already familiar with but some of your post was informative. I know it is hard over the internet to speak to another person, so thanks for your long and informative reply. Do you know what comes after the F-6? I'm thinking it is citizenship if the F-2 is for those not married to a Korean.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on July 30, 2016, 11:22:17 am
You're very welcome.

The ranking of F visas and changing from one to another I'm afraid is beyond my knowledge. Attention people that know more about this than me; fix my errors!

I know F-2's (at least F-2-7) have to be renewed every X number of years. The same is true for F-4 (ethnic Koreans born overseas), but F-5 is a "forever" so it does not need to be renewed. I am unsure about F-6.

Citizenship is possible but look into what would really change for you if you change your citizenship. I do say "change" as I believe Korea doesn't allow dual unless you are under a certain age. Also if you are male check to see if you need to serve in the military if you get Korean citizenship. I haven't heard anything solid about Korea, but I heard Taiwan requires all males who become citizens (up until the age of 55 or so) to serve in the army like everyone else.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chocolate.croissant on August 03, 2016, 03:20:34 pm
Anybody have any clue when the next level 5 class (in-person not online) will be?  They told me back in April there would be one August or September.  I've been checking the socinet website everyday but nothing yet.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Sir_Bonkers on August 08, 2016, 01:51:03 pm
Did anyone else take the level test this past Saturday? I think I did fairly decent.  This thread really helped me with the speaking test also. So I just wanted to say thanks to everybody for posting here.  I read through the whole thread and the questions they asked were the same ones people posted on here last year.  So even though I hadn't prepared detailed answers, I had at least a few ideas in my head.

1. We read a very easy paragraph on seasons.
2. Asked us what our favorite season was and why.
3. Asked if there was a difference between houses in Korea and our home country
4. Asked the difference between 전세 and 월세 (I very stupidly got them backwards in my explanation).
5. Finally, asked why Koreans seem to be having less babies these days. 

Also, the written test felt very similar to the TOPIK practice tests that I have taken. So it might be a good idea to try a practice test beforehand just so you can have a feel for it.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on August 09, 2016, 02:45:46 pm
@chocolate.croissant

I can't see Level 5 but KIIP just posted Level 4 class schedule for offline classes starting end of Aug/beg of Sept.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: oatmealkooky on August 09, 2016, 11:17:07 pm
My friend is in level 3 and wants to drop to level 2; she says she's in over her head with level 3 and wants to do something she knows she can complete. How can she do that?

And yeah, my friend is my friend. I'm in a level 3 class now and seem to be doing passable mediocre. :laugh:
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Sir_Bonkers on August 12, 2016, 11:01:59 am
Just a heads up to everybody. They've posted a lot of new classes. Mostly online classes so far. But I'm sure more will be up today and tomorrow.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: oatmealkooky on August 23, 2016, 11:57:32 pm
Two quick questions since it's getting close to the end of the latest round of classes. People have been asking, and I just want to double-check since concrete facts are hard to come by. (In Korea, go figure, right?)

First, can someone drop a level, like from 3 to 2 or whatever? Someone I know doesn't like the pace of her course and wants to slow things down. I think she did too well on the level test but can't do well enough for the level she was put in.

And second, do they still give you an automatic pass if you fail a course, then take it again?

Actually, these questions are depressing. :O

Oh, and does anyone know the schedule for the remaining class starting dates this year? And maybe spring 2017?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: robin_teacher on August 24, 2016, 07:56:28 am
I found the jump from level 2 to 3 to be far too much even though I got placed into and eventually received a really high mark for level 2. What I'm doing is taking some time off from KIIP to self-study and work on my weak points (listening comprehension). I know from my experience that you have to be completely out of the program for 6 months before you can do the level test again. What I'm going to do is take the TOPIK, aiming for 4 but happy with 3, so I can show them my score and get placed straight into 4 or 5.

It's a good program but I found our class in the tiny, windowless classroom and the 9 hour days to be exhausting and tedious.

All the KIIP books are available online. I'm going through the level 3 book at my own speed and this time it's actually sticking.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Seoulcutie on August 24, 2016, 08:16:25 am
Two quick questions since it's getting close to the end of the latest round of classes. People have been asking, and I just want to double-check since concrete facts are hard to come by. (In Korea, go figure, right?)

First, can someone drop a level, like from 3 to 2 or whatever? Someone I know doesn't like the pace of her course and wants to slow things down. I think she did too well on the level test but can't do well enough for the level she was put in.

And second, do they still give you an automatic pass if you fail a course, then take it again?

Actually, these questions are depressing. :O

Oh, and does anyone know the schedule for the remaining class starting dates this year? And maybe spring 2017?

My teacher told me that you can change levels only once. So if your friend goes to level 2 and finds that things aren't quite the pace she wants, she would have to stick it out.

Second one, I'm not 100%, but I think it depends on the level? Lower levels you automatically pass on the second time. Level 5 is three times and you don't have to take the final. Once again, don't quote me on this.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: HaLo3 on August 24, 2016, 09:03:57 am
Has anyone else had the problem of being unable to access the KIIP site because of security errors?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: kobayashi on August 24, 2016, 12:57:14 pm
Has anyone else had the problem of being unable to access the KIIP site because of security errors?

yup i had this problem. you have to enable SSL2.0 and SSL3.0 encryption through advanced option in IE. Click on Internet Options, then select the 'Advanced Options' tab. scroll down and then make sure the boxes for SSL2.0 and 3.0 are checked. if they aren't you should also make sure the boxes for TLS1.0, 1.1, and 1.2 are checked too.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: kobayashi on August 24, 2016, 01:33:01 pm
also just a small request - when you say "classes are opening up on [date]" or "classes opened on [date]" etc., please mention your location and the level you're talking about.

It's very important because the application periods can be completely different for different locations and/or levels, and it could cause confusion.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: HaLo3 on August 24, 2016, 03:33:43 pm
Has anyone else had the problem of being unable to access the KIIP site because of security errors?

yup i had this problem. you have to enable SSL2.0 and SSL3.0 encryption through advanced option in IE. Click on Internet Options, then select the 'Advanced Options' tab. scroll down and then make sure the boxes for SSL2.0 and 3.0 are checked. if they aren't you should also make sure the boxes for TLS1.0, 1.1, and 1.2 are checked too.
Oh boy, thats a lot going on. Thanks! I'll fix those.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on August 30, 2016, 09:27:24 am
Short version:
    To signup for online classes get there before midnight, but if you aren't pregnant or don't have a child they might (will?) kick you out roughly a week before the start of class.

Longer version:
    Last "semester" I was 1st to signup for the online class of my choosing right after midnight (intermediate 1). About a week before the class was going to start they called me and said "no pregnancy, no baby = no online class". Then like 3 days later they said they kicked out so many people that I could come back in if I wanted. I was the only male in our class BTW and about half the class had babies.

   This semester I was expecting the same; checked a little before midnight (they opened it at least 15 minutes early) and signed up as 2nd for the online class of my choosing, a week before class "no baby = no class" but they never called me back to re-invite me in. I contacted them and they mentioned they had too many mothers now so I couldn't join. Now a few days before the online class was going to start, the offline class I was hoping to get into was full (long Sunday, 30 min drive), the 2nd class had 0 people out of 30 and so it will get cancelled (long Sat class, 45 min drive), but was able to get into my 3rd choice offline class which is a 30 min drive on both Sat and Sun. I was hoping to have at least one day per weekend open but this works well and is closer than some of the 90 minute drive locations!

  I should mention I live between several cities so at best an offline class for me requires a 30 minutes drive one way. Within big cities I'd imagine you've got more of a choice of offline classes.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Horsey on October 21, 2016, 09:21:24 am
Does anybody know when the next round of classes will start? Haven't been able to find the 2016 schedule online.

Here's the 2015 schedule: http://keytokorean.com/kiip-%EC%82%AC%ED%9A%8C%ED%86%B5%ED%95%A9%ED%94%84%EB%A1%9C%EA%B7%B8%EB%9E%A8-schedule-and-information/

Thanks
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rowdes on October 21, 2016, 10:29:28 am
I believe the next round will commence next year around Feb/March. The current semester is the last of the year.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: jlynn2190 on October 21, 2016, 12:15:39 pm
i initially signed up for the placement test for the next round of KIIP but I just found out I have to teach an all day saturday English camp that day, is there anyway to back out of the placement test and still not start at the very beginning? I can already read hangul and speak basic things....I'm trying to avoid having the conversation with my school about changing the schedule
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: antmar on November 15, 2016, 01:00:08 pm
Will anyone be taking the pre test this upcoming Saturday? Also does anyone know how long after we take the test we will be able to sign up for classes? Thanks!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: damocha on November 15, 2016, 03:25:49 pm
Will anyone be taking the pre test this upcoming Saturday? Also does anyone know how long after we take the test we will be able to sign up for classes? Thanks!

I'm taking it. I'm curious when we can sign up, too. I've read a lot of people stay up and register at midnight so they don't get locked out of the class they want. I think I'm more nervous about registering for the class than the pre-test!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on November 16, 2016, 02:11:12 pm
What you are taking is a level test; there is no pass/fail, they are simply trying to put you into the class that best matches your level. Don't stress.

The signing up at midnight (or better yet, before midnight as it opened early last time), should only affect you if you are trying to get one of the coveted online classes. The offline classes in my area, and you can only see classes in your area, were slow to fill up. If you are concerned then stay up late that special night. Check before midnight, maybe you'll be lucky, worst case at midnight they'll open.

I am unsure when the next semester is, but the current one finishes in December. Also note the list of classes are posted early; first online, then offline, then maybe more offline. You can see the dates for signup, schedule, etc. which helps when planning which day/time to come back for signups.

I was able to successfully join the online class for both of my two "semesters" in the program. But the week before the class would start (and as offline classes were now getting full) they called and asked if I was pregnant or had a baby and could give paperwork to prove it. I am male and have no kids, to which they said sorry as the online class was really for moms who couldn't travel to an offline class and then deleted me from the class. The first semester they apparently kicked out too many people, and as I was the first to signup, they brought me back in a few days before it started. The second semester I never got a call inviting me back in. My top choice of offline classes was full, I took my next choice but did not like the teacher and called my first choice to see if they could add an extra student; they could. I didn't get classroom time credit for the first class as I changed locations, but I've never looked back.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Chivalry on November 18, 2016, 11:14:55 am
I'm taking the placement test tomorrow. I'm hoping to get into the culture class. Not sure how difficult it is to get into that class but the text book seems fine.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Stin777 on November 18, 2016, 11:59:37 am
That is level 5. You need to about intermediate to qualify for that class. There is no grammar lessons. Good luck!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: kobayashi on November 21, 2016, 08:42:42 am
those are doing the course at the moment, curious as to how you are being tested?

our test is basically the same as the level test. MCQ and then a speaking portion, fail the speaking portion and you fail the entire course no matter how you do on the MCQ. despite the fact that we've had like 5 minutes of speaking practice per chapter  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Seoulcutie on November 21, 2016, 12:21:02 pm
What you are taking is a level test; there is no pass/fail, they are simply trying to put you into the class that best matches your level. Don't stress.

The signing up at midnight (or better yet, before midnight as it opened early last time), should only affect you if you are trying to get one of the coveted online classes. The offline classes in my area, and you can only see classes in your area, were slow to fill up. If you are concerned then stay up late that special night. Check before midnight, maybe you'll be lucky, worst case at midnight they'll open.

I am unsure when the next semester is, but the current one finishes in December. Also note the list of classes are posted early; first online, then offline, then maybe more offline. You can see the dates for signup, schedule, etc. which helps when planning which day/time to come back for signups.

I was able to successfully join the online class for both of my two "semesters" in the program. But the week before the class would start (and as offline classes were now getting full) they called and asked if I was pregnant or had a baby and could give paperwork to prove it. I am male and have no kids, to which they said sorry as the online class was really for moms who couldn't travel to an offline class and then deleted me from the class. The first semester they apparently kicked out too many people, and as I was the first to signup, they brought me back in a few days before it started. The second semester I never got a call inviting me back in. My top choice of offline classes was full, I took my next choice but did not like the teacher and called my first choice to see if they could add an extra student; they could. I didn't get classroom time credit for the first class as I changed locations, but I've never looked back.

Signing up at midnight might be based on a variety of factors: the level you're in, the area you want, and the time slot. I got on the site at 11:30 pm before classes opened and about 20 minutes later the website was slowing down. By about 12:10, all the seats for the night class (level 3) that I wanted were gone. Fortunately I had taken level 2 at the same place, so I was able to talk to my previous teacher and they opened more seats.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: antmar on November 23, 2016, 03:20:24 pm
For anyone that took the pre test on Saturday, do you guys know when they are suppose to release results and how soon after they are suppose to allow people to check the schedule and sign up for classes?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: hellokitty814 on November 25, 2016, 12:01:19 pm
I received my results from the placement test this morning. Does anyone have any idea when we will receive information regarding signing up for classes and/or the 2017 schedule?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: HaLo3 on November 25, 2016, 12:11:19 pm
I received my results from the placement test this morning. Does anyone have any idea when we will receive information regarding signing up for classes and/or the 2017 schedule?
I'm having the same issue. I took the test last weekend, but now it's saying there are no classes?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SaintsCanada on November 25, 2016, 01:50:22 pm
I also took the level test last Saturday and got my results today. Does anybody know how the scoring works? Is the speaking part graded out of 52 points, and the written part worth 48 points, for a total of 100?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Chivalry on November 25, 2016, 01:53:22 pm
I checked online and the results are there.
The paper I received from them said something about January 10th being the date to check, however the site lists a class that begins tomorrow and allows registration through today.

Edit: Haha I was trying to figure out what a deeping class was. It is for naturalization. No wonder it was only 20 hours. So I guess it is just now a matter of waiting until the 10th. Plenty of time to study in advance.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: antmar on November 25, 2016, 02:59:55 pm
Yeah I also got my results back today too. Still waiting on them to open up classes. For anyone that has gone through this process before, how long did it take before classes started to open? :)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SaintsCanada on November 29, 2016, 04:51:43 pm
Any update on this? Searching for class openings doesn't seem to work properly. Still not listed? Any idea when they might be?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: lieueez on December 01, 2016, 07:54:54 am
Registration won't start until January. I also think you won't be able to see the courses until January.  The 1st semester usually starts in mid-February/March.  Or at least that is how it was in 2016!  You just need to check with KIIP closer to January to find out when registration opens.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SaintsCanada on December 01, 2016, 08:55:40 am
Thanks so much, lieueez!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on December 12, 2016, 04:09:41 pm
I am gathering the paperwork I'll need to apply for the F-2-7 visa and hoping they accept everything. I passed KIIP level 3 and need the paperwork that says I passed the class. The visa paperwork says "사회통합프로그램 교육확인서 상의 수료단계(1~5단계)" and am not finding something matching that on the Socinet website. How do I get the paperwork that says I passed X level?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rowdes on December 13, 2016, 07:39:06 am
Interesting Rampowers, I am also in the process of applying for the F2-99 via Kiip completion. I assumed that we would be able to get the paperwork directly from the leader in charge at the institute you studied at.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SaintsCanada on January 09, 2017, 02:01:38 pm
Anybody have any luck registering for the February courses yet?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on January 10, 2017, 10:25:15 am
@SaintsCanada
Not seeing any courses listed in the greater 대전 area yet.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chichiroxursox on January 10, 2017, 10:57:32 am
I was hoping today would really be the day it opens up but so far nothing. Still keeping my eyes out that it'll open later. I really hope this new semester starts soon. The listed dates for this year is soooo confusing haha!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: damocha on January 10, 2017, 01:36:15 pm
I called the Busan Immigration Office. They said they won't open registration until at least January 16th. They said they're still unsure of the exact date so it would be best to keep checking the website.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Chivalry on January 12, 2017, 02:04:06 pm
Some classes are listed on mine but the earliest registration is Saturday (online class) and Monday (offline class).
I don't see any weekend classes, I hope they add more.

I see M/W/F morning class, M/W/F evening class, and T/Th morning class. The rest are online which of course gives preferential treatment to people with kids or pregnant. And well online is every day which would be a bit of a pain anyway.

The lack of weekend classes seems true for level 3, 4, and 5. But it is early, they may add more by tomorrow.

I registered for 숭실 but it seems that isn't offered and says something about it not being permitted so I am a bit lost. But how would anyone working be able to do any of these?

Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: damocha on January 12, 2017, 02:46:19 pm
Some classes are listed on mine but the earliest registration is Saturday (online class) and Monday (offline class).
I don't see any weekend classes, I hope they add more.

I see M/W/F morning class, M/W/F evening class, and T/Th morning class. The rest are online which of course gives preferential treatment to people with kids or pregnant. And well online is every day which would be a bit of a pain anyway.

The lack of weekend classes seems true for level 3, 4, and 5. But it is early, they may add more by tomorrow.

I registered for 숭실 but it seems that isn't offered and says something about it not being permitted so I am a bit lost. But how would anyone working be able to do any of these?

Mine is listed too. They are all online classes (Intermediate 1). I'm pretty frustrated that I waited all this time just to find out that the classes are running while I'm traveling. Guess I'll have to wait for the next round.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on January 13, 2017, 10:20:19 am
They always list online classes first and then later list offline classes with different start/end dates. For example the last "semester" had start dates in my area for intermediate 2 of
9/4
9/3
8/22
9/6
9/12
8/29 (online)
9/19
Start dates varied by almost a month at the most extreme. And as long as you get the 70 classroom hours so can still take the final exam. So keep checking the available classes during the next week or so and see if you can get an offline class with better dates that allows you to take your vacation and still get the 70 hours.

Best of luck~
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Chivalry on January 13, 2017, 10:56:57 am
Yeah they added a bunch more classes. One just 3 subway stops away on the weekend is now offered so thats good.

Edit: Stayed up to midnight to get the class I wanted. Good thing I did since by 15 minutes after midnight it was full.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chuckd on February 13, 2017, 08:39:57 am
For those of you who need some extra help!


KIIP - Level 3,4 & 5 - Vocabulary & Textbooks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSGdVOzwlMY&index=1&list=PLl4RI1pH-8dFFreuIXth7KnS-xGkBFGf0

KIIP - Level 5 - Practice Test Questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwEgCpUROBo&index=1&list=PLl4RI1pH-8dGQaE3PFx0VPe7kUrXMU9pS

KIIP - Level 5 - Lesson 1-50 - Quiz Questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd8vuZRD0M0&index=1&list=PLl4RI1pH-8dHCTJh4ZsY96vIqQH0cTzof
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rowdes on February 13, 2017, 08:47:28 am
I have a question to those who have moved cities:

How do you update the information on your page so that you can choose a university in your new city? I can't seem to find an edit button anywhere.

Thanks~
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on February 13, 2017, 09:01:45 am
I have a question to those who have moved cities:

How do you update the information on your page so that you can choose a university in your new city? I can't seem to find an edit button anywhere.

Thanks~

after doing immigration and updating my residency at my local neighborhood office, my KIIP information auto-updated. i'm not sure which one made the difference
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: SmallBaguette on March 06, 2017, 08:49:51 am
Does anyone know when the next round of classes start?

I done level 3 about this time last year but then couldn't commit for the rest of the year to carry on the classes. Long story short, my schedule is free enough again now that I can return to the classes. Having a hard time seeing when the classes are though, I remember I got that information at the level test but I don't need to do that again this year. Thanks!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on March 09, 2017, 04:17:47 pm
There is a file that I saved from the KIIP website called
2017년 이민자 사회통합프로그램 교육 및 평가 일정
that our teacher also sent us in our Kakao class chat.

The line near the top reads
교육일정 :
1학기(1. 1 ~ 5. 14.),
2학기(5. 15. ~ 8. 27.),
3학기(8. 28. ~ 12. 16.)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: lieueez on March 13, 2017, 07:45:56 am
I've been told registration for next semester's classes starts on 4/20.  If you are taking the level 5 test for the second time there is test registration starting on 3/17 for the 4/01 test.

If you keep checking the site, you'll see the classes and their registration dates pop up during the week before registration.

Attached is info on the semesters.  I got this at the beginning of the 1st semester from my teacher ~ the notes are about the level 5 test.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: fishhook on March 22, 2017, 07:29:23 am
Does anyone know where to get the Level 5 certificates? I recently passed the test and have asked my teacher, but she is also unsure.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Chivalry on March 23, 2017, 09:16:25 pm
Does anyone know where to get the Level 5 certificates? I recently passed the test and have asked my teacher, but she is also unsure.

It is in the socinet site. Go to my page and it is next to 상태. There is a button 이수증. It only loads in IE of course.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: henshin on March 23, 2017, 10:26:00 pm
I have a question to those who have moved cities:

How do you update the information on your page so that you can choose a university in your new city? I can't seem to find an edit button anywhere.

Thanks~

after doing immigration and updating my residency at my local neighborhood office, my KIIP information auto-updated. i'm not sure which one made the difference

Just recently changed my address and city but the KIIP website is still listing my old immigration office. Really bummed because I wanted to pick up classes again.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rowdes on March 24, 2017, 07:50:16 am
It doesn't automatically change. You need to go into 'my page' and then click 'checking detailed user information' and update your address from there.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on March 24, 2017, 09:16:53 am
Does anyone have any advice or resources for the Level 4 Final exam? Besdies that youtube video with vocab

you will see stuff from level 3 on there. for the oral exam they used a topic covered in level 3. so look it over.

i personally have trouble with picking out opposite words or similar words. so pay attention to that (ie multiple ways to say 'save' money, conservative vs liberal). also i'd read over the dialog practice sections and reading sections. they tend to take excerpts straight from there.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: cescudero95 on March 25, 2017, 09:42:33 am
Hey, I made an account and applied for the evaluation test.  It says:
' Evaluation status : Application
spot Receipt date :
spot Evaluation date : 2017.04.15 13:00
       (Enter until 12:30)
spot Evaluation location : Not decided'

Does anyone know if I need to select a location or am I waiting for them to process something?  Thanks.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on March 26, 2017, 02:26:32 pm
Hey, I made an account and applied for the evaluation test.  It says:
' Evaluation status : Application
spot Receipt date :
spot Evaluation date : 2017.04.15 13:00
       (Enter until 12:30)
spot Evaluation location : Not decided'

Does anyone know if I need to select a location or am I waiting for them to process something?  Thanks.

theyll have an assigned location that'll pop up a few days before the test (sometimes only one or two days before).itll be on a test ticket, that you will likely need explorer to view.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: twesthall on April 03, 2017, 08:14:00 am
Hello,

I started doing the KIIP class 2 years ago, but various reasons I stopped in the middle and never completed the class I was in. I decided to pick it up again, but I'm not sure what I have to do. Do I have to take the test again? I have the ability to sign up for "vicarious class application" and I chose HUFS. Is there something I'm missing? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Vicarious class application Apply deputized class 
Vicarious class application organization 한국외국어대학교 다문화교육원 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: robin_teacher on April 03, 2017, 08:55:19 am
Hello,

I started doing the KIIP class 2 years ago, but various reasons I stopped in the middle and never completed the class I was in. I decided to pick it up again, but I'm not sure what I have to do. Do I have to take the test again? I have the ability to sign up for "vicarious class application" and I chose HUFS. Is there something I'm missing? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Vicarious class application Apply deputized class 
Vicarious class application organization 한국외국어대학교 다문화교육원

As I understand it you can defer a class for up to 6 months, anything longer and you can attend the level above the last one you last passed, or retake the level-test and see where they place you. I'm trying to get as high a level as possible outside of KIIP so I can be placed into level 5.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: propudge on April 03, 2017, 10:18:33 am
How do you sign up for their Korean classes? (Not KIIP program). The Website is in Korean and there is no English option that I can see.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: macteacher on April 03, 2017, 11:29:47 am
How do you sign up for their Korean classes? (Not KIIP program). The Website is in Korean and there is no English option that I can see.


kiip is the Korean classes
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: cescudero95 on April 12, 2017, 02:41:08 pm
Hi,

So I got the location and time of my test now, posted as of yesterday on the site.  However, the Examination Ticket still doesn't load.  Was just wondering if that is normal.  Afaik I am supposed to bring that ticket printed out to the test.  Does it take time to generate?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: maxwelllisa on April 12, 2017, 03:47:55 pm
I tried to apply for the pre-test, but it does not give me an option to make a selection on the application page, and therefore will not let me continue....its on the first page of the application. My only option to proceed is to select no I will not take a test and I will start at level 0....any ideas or solutions?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: kobayashi on April 13, 2017, 08:15:06 am
if you guys are having problems you can phone your local immigration office. that's what i've done in the past.

since the program is run by immigration, they are obliged to help you. note: there's no guarantee anyone at your local immigration office will speak english, so maybe get a korean to call.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: damocha on April 13, 2017, 09:59:47 am
Hi,

So I got the location and time of my test now, posted as of yesterday on the site.  However, the Examination Ticket still doesn't load.  Was just wondering if that is normal.  Afaik I am supposed to bring that ticket printed out to the test.  Does it take time to generate?

It does take some time to generate, but it shouldn't be more than a minute. If it doesn't show after that, try opening the website in a different browser. Internet Explorer on a Windows machine is always the best option when it comes to anything Korean government related.

Good luck.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: cescudero95 on April 13, 2017, 04:13:12 pm
Thanks damocha, that seems to have been the case.  There were a lot of active x addons to install using IE, but I got it working and printed.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: cescudero95 on April 21, 2017, 01:36:56 pm
So I was assigned to Level 3, 중급1 (intermediate 1). 

When I go to the section to apply for classes, I only see weekday online classes.  I do have time open to select some of them, but should I wait for in person classes?  Do they become listed later?

If anyone has any insight on that let me know, thanks.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rhchris1 on April 21, 2017, 09:47:46 pm
So I was assigned to Level 3, 중급1 (intermediate 1). 

When I go to the section to apply for classes, I only see weekday online classes.  I do have time open to select some of them, but should I wait for in person classes?  Do they become listed later?

If anyone has any insight on that let me know, thanks.

You can register for the online class and then if a better in-person option appears later, you can drop the online class and switch. 

To answer your question, yes classes open sporadically it seems. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ryguy4 on April 22, 2017, 03:06:50 pm
Can I Use a tablet to participate in the online courses?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: DNogitsune on April 24, 2017, 08:45:23 am
Can I Use a tablet to participate in the online courses?

No. You would need an actual computer or laptop. You have to be hooked up to a LAN line for class. It is to avoid the delay that happens on wifi. Doesn't matter how fast your connection, there is going to be a delay. It would be good to have headphones or a mic set up also.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on April 24, 2017, 10:33:28 am
As this is a gov't class the website is designed to work in IE so I'd say get a Windows machine. If your wifi is solid then not a problem (speedtest.net is your friend). When the class starts your computer will download the content the teacher has prepared and on a slow connection (ex: hotspot via phone's 3G with medium reception) then you'll hear audio but content won't load for quite awhile and you probably won't see images from webcams until after all content downloads.

If you are using a notebook with built in webcam that is fine for video. I had earbuds and a desktop mic but the teacher pushed me to get a headset with mic. You can get a decent headset/mic set for like 20k ~ 30k won online. I really didn't want to but other than the textbook that is your only expense for a 1:9 class and with that in mind I was happy to make that small purchase.

To participate in an online class you go to a different website, login, and the teacher controls the "classroom." The classroom is normally a small chat box at the left, the PPT/textbook/website taking up most screen space, and smaller windows with all students via webcams. When the teacher wants for the students to focus on the materials she/he can change the screen so you only see the materials, or can select one or two students to take up most of the screen, etc. The program specifically wants mommies in the classes so expect a good number of students to have lil kids. The teacher has audio controls for all students and can mute individuals when babies start to cry/scream/break stuff in the background. The teacher also has power over volume levels so if your mic is too "hot" it can be turned down by the teacher. Much like a smart blackboard, the teacher can write or draw on the screen which is perfect for point to specific words or content.

The teacher may or may not let you take pictures of the screen with your smartphone when certain grammar is up or when checking homework. It might be up to the teacher but screenshots are SUPER helpful for reviewing and allowing you to stay focused on what is happening as you can check the screenshots later for deeper understanding. If you like screenshots then check out the program Greenshot.

Apply just before or at midnight when the online classes open to get a spot as it will fill by 9 am the next morning. Offline signups are by region but online are for the whole country; you can competing against expats from every city for those few coveted spaces. Also they want mommies who are house bound and have more difficulty getting to an offline class. Both semesters I registered for online classes I got a phone call a week before the start of class asking if I was female and pregnant or already had a child. As I am none of those I was kicked out of the class but was invited back 1 of the 2 times as they kicked out too many people. Take away: be the first to sign up for a session so you get invited back first and have an offline location as your 2nd option but don't signup for it until the online class as already started. Offline classes can (sometimes? always?) take more people if they run out of spots so don't stress if your offline option is full.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: nicojohnson on April 25, 2017, 09:28:20 am
Are the dates/locations published for upcoming pre-tests?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: JahMoo on April 25, 2017, 11:20:27 am
I tried to apply for the pre-test, but it does not give me an option to make a selection on the application page, and therefore will not let me continue....its on the first page of the application. My only option to proceed is to select no I will not take a test and I will start at level 0....any ideas or solutions?

Me too. Does anyone know what we're doing wrong?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: HaLo3 on April 25, 2017, 11:59:07 am
I want to sign up for the online class which I heard is available, does anyone know what that would be called on the site?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on April 26, 2017, 09:48:24 am
Quote
I want to sign up for the online class which I heard is available, does anyone know what that would be called on the site?
Click the tab at the top of the page labeled 마이페이지, under the flags click 과정신청, you'll see a list of classes that match your level in your area / online.
Under 운영기관명 it says 한국이민재단 and under 주소 it says 온라인 and a time, for example 온라인(11-13시).
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: HaLo3 on April 26, 2017, 09:51:23 am
Quote
I want to sign up for the online class which I heard is available, does anyone know what that would be called on the site?
Click the tab at the top of the page labeled 마이페이지, under the flags click 과정신청, you'll see a list of classes that match your level in your area / online.
Under 운영기관명 it says 한국이민재단 and under 주소 it says 온라인 and a time, for example 온라인(11-13시).
Hmm. There is no option for online this semester then. All the classes listed are in-person at uni campuses.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: rampowers on May 02, 2017, 12:42:53 pm
Quote
Hmm. There is no option for online this semester then. All the classes listed are in-person at uni campuses.
It sounds like you just missed it then as online is available for the entire country (aka not regional based). Last week I checked the site for level 5 classes and online was listed, a couple days later they got filled, application period ended, and now the online listings are removed. Currently only offline is available and a much longer list of choices than the week prior.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chichiroxursox on May 17, 2017, 03:25:24 pm
Has anyone ever encountered an error message on the online class when you click to join? It keeps telling me 'unable to enter or create other conferences during a conference'. It's only happening on my laptop. I'm not having any problems on any other computer but I can only use my laptop for the class. I'm really annoyed it's not working.

Thanks in advance :)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: JahMoo on May 18, 2017, 12:17:35 am
Has anyone ever encountered an error message on the online class when you click to join? It keeps telling me 'unable to enter or create other conferences during a conference'. It's only happening on my laptop. I'm not having any problems on any other computer but I can only use my laptop for the class. I'm really annoyed it's not working.

Thanks in advance :)

I'm not sure this is your problem, but make sure your browser is Internet Explorer.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chichiroxursox on May 22, 2017, 03:35:28 pm
Has anyone ever encountered an error message on the online class when you click to join? It keeps telling me 'unable to enter or create other conferences during a conference'. It's only happening on my laptop. I'm not having any problems on any other computer but I can only use my laptop for the class. I'm really annoyed it's not working.

Thanks in advance :)

I'm not sure this is your problem, but make sure your browser is Internet Explorer.

Yea I was using IE. It's decided to completely stop working haha! Using a friend's laptop now. Thanks anyway!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: pizzaman on June 29, 2017, 12:44:12 pm
Hello ^^ I would like to take this test, but it isn't currently showing up on their site.  I heard it doesn't become available until really near the test date, so does anyone know when the next testing period is?

Also, is there an up-to-date study guide? Or anything in particular that I should focus my studying?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chichiroxursox on June 29, 2017, 01:42:23 pm
https://gickoblog.wordpress.com/free-korean-classeskiip/test-schedule-for-2017/

According to this, the next pre-test is August 5th.

I'ts kind of hard to say what to study. The 5 levels cover a lot of material. But you can look up the vocab and grammar for each chapter. It's on youtube and there are some blogs that have entire sections just on kiip material. You can also get a link to download the books they use on youtube as well.

Hope this helps ^^
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: damocha on June 30, 2017, 09:23:47 am
Hello ^^ I would like to take this test, but it isn't currently showing up on their site.  I heard it doesn't become available until really near the test date, so does anyone know when the next testing period is?

Also, is there an up-to-date study guide? Or anything in particular that I should focus my studying?

Definitely keep checking the website everyday and sign up as soon as you can. I was able to register 3 months early. They administer the speaking test in the order of test registration so unless you want to wait around for an hour, sign up fast.

For the written portion, I found studying old TOPIK tests helped a lot. The format is very similar and it's nice to get familiar with Korean instructions if you are a beginner. Google search "TOPIK practice test" and you'll get some good ones.

The reading and speaking test is pretty simple. They have you read a beginner-level paragraph and ask basic comprehension questions. Then they'll ask basic questions. Mine were about taking vacations in my home country and the difference between my home country and Korea. Make sure to elaborate so the panel gets a better idea of what your level is.

If you're interested, I wrote a more in-depth post about my experience taking the test.
https://meandna.wordpress.com/2016/11/25/kiip-korean-immigrant-immersion-program-pre-test/
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: pizzaman on June 30, 2017, 12:14:42 pm
Thank you chichiroxursox and damocha!  This has helped a lot!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ozzieman on August 02, 2017, 12:00:26 am
Hello!
I was wondering if anyone living in Seoul was able to sign up for evening classes during the week, and where they were located. I know it must change every time, but I'm just curious what people who teach during the day usually do. I'm hoping it's not just dedicate a whole Sunday, but I am mentally preparing myself for that T.T
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: jgfmondewc on August 05, 2017, 05:09:26 pm
So I signed up for the placement exam a while ago but the Assessment Location still says "undecided" even though it's supposed to be on this Saturday. Anyone know if I did something wrong or it's really this last minute?

this happened tto me it wasnt posted unttil about 36 hrs before or something like that

Thank so much, that's what happened.

Just finished the placement test today, anyone know around how long a wait it is before you know your results and can sign up for classes (I heard they fill up pretty fast)?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: miladmzz on August 14, 2017, 05:03:06 pm
Hey guys,

I hope everyone is having a great summer. So let me cut to the chase , I took level basic two last semester between May to August and in week 8 or 9 my attendance fell below 80% so I stopped going to the classes. I looked it up on google and I realized that I just had to stand by until the new semester registration starts so I can re-register for level 2.
Today the registration started but unfortunately I only get the list of level one and level 0 classes. I called the KIIP office to ask about it and they told me that "After failing a level due to low attendance I had to sit again for the level (Placement ) test otherwise I will be kicked back to level 1 and I will have to start everything over from scratch!"
Now I would like to know if anyone has faced this issue before ? what is your suggestion to solve this problem?

Thank you :)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: JahMoo on August 22, 2017, 02:33:26 pm
I sat for the placement test, and I will be starting at level 4 in 2 weeks. My question is, is there anything I need to buy in preparation for this class? Do I have to buy a textbook online, or will it be available for purchase when I show up for the first class? Do I need to bring my laptop with me? Will I need any additional online resources? I'm curious because I only have a Macbook, and my school computer rejects the socinet website, so I would like to be prepared if I'm going to have to hang out at the PC rooms more often.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: kobayashi on August 22, 2017, 03:18:33 pm
I sat for the placement test, and I will be starting at level 4 in 2 weeks. My question is, is there anything I need to buy in preparation for this class? Do I have to buy a textbook online, or will it be available for purchase when I show up for the first class? Do I need to bring my laptop with me? Will I need any additional online resources? I'm curious because I only have a Macbook, and my school computer rejects the socinet website, so I would like to be prepared if I'm going to have to hang out at the PC rooms more often.

the teacher will bring the textbook for you. you need to buy it from them. i think the cost is 7,000 Won? try to bring exact change as usually loads of people bring manwons and then the poor teacher usually struggles to give them all change.

any other additional materials should be supplied in class. i didn't use a computer at all for the class.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: JahMoo on August 22, 2017, 03:52:21 pm
I sat for the placement test, and I will be starting at level 4 in 2 weeks. My question is, is there anything I need to buy in preparation for this class? Do I have to buy a textbook online, or will it be available for purchase when I show up for the first class? Do I need to bring my laptop with me? Will I need any additional online resources? I'm curious because I only have a Macbook, and my school computer rejects the socinet website, so I would like to be prepared if I'm going to have to hang out at the PC rooms more often.

the teacher will bring the textbook for you. you need to buy it from them. i think the cost is 7,000 Won? try to bring exact change as usually loads of people bring manwons and then the poor teacher usually struggles to give them all change.

any other additional materials should be supplied in class. i didn't use a computer at all for the class.

Thanks so much for helping! I will bring all cheon won bills to help out the teacher. Can you give me an idea of how heavy the homework load might be? Like on average how many hours do you think you spent weekly on hw and study outside of class?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: kobayashi on August 23, 2017, 08:12:19 am
I sat for the placement test, and I will be starting at level 4 in 2 weeks. My question is, is there anything I need to buy in preparation for this class? Do I have to buy a textbook online, or will it be available for purchase when I show up for the first class? Do I need to bring my laptop with me? Will I need any additional online resources? I'm curious because I only have a Macbook, and my school computer rejects the socinet website, so I would like to be prepared if I'm going to have to hang out at the PC rooms more often.

the teacher will bring the textbook for you. you need to buy it from them. i think the cost is 7,000 Won? try to bring exact change as usually loads of people bring manwons and then the poor teacher usually struggles to give them all change.

any other additional materials should be supplied in class. i didn't use a computer at all for the class.

Thanks so much for helping! I will bring all cheon won bills to help out the teacher. Can you give me an idea of how heavy the homework load might be? Like on average how many hours do you think you spent weekly on hw and study outside of class?

i've done Level 1 and 2. the amount of homework hours i did per week was the sum total of ZERO  :laugh:

our teacher used to assign the writing section at the end of each chapter as homework, but after spending 9 hours per week in the class already split across 3x3 hour sessions, the last thing i wanted to do was any extra work outside of class.

they have now made the end-of-course tests significantly more difficult though, so i think it would be good to do some extra studying in your free time if you can. focus mainly on vocabulary and grammar, that is what's tested the most. but again this is for Level 1 and 2, for Level 4 maybe different but i think it's pretty much the same across all the levels.

9 hours per week is already a huge amount of time to spend learning a language. just try to do some extra studying when you can, but don't stress too much about it. if you fail 1 level twice you get automatically pushed through to the next level, so if you're doing it for visa points you can still get those eventually even if you fail the course, it'll just take longer.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: JahMoo on August 23, 2017, 08:16:23 am
Thanks Kobayashi. You are so helpful!!!  :azn:
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: kobayashi on August 23, 2017, 08:26:26 am
Thanks Kobayashi. You are so helpful!!!  :azn:

no prob  8)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Seoulcutie on August 23, 2017, 11:28:19 am
I sat for the placement test, and I will be starting at level 4 in 2 weeks. My question is, is there anything I need to buy in preparation for this class? Do I have to buy a textbook online, or will it be available for purchase when I show up for the first class? Do I need to bring my laptop with me? Will I need any additional online resources? I'm curious because I only have a Macbook, and my school computer rejects the socinet website, so I would like to be prepared if I'm going to have to hang out at the PC rooms more often.

the teacher will bring the textbook for you. you need to buy it from them. i think the cost is 7,000 Won? try to bring exact change as usually loads of people bring manwons and then the poor teacher usually struggles to give them all change.

any other additional materials should be supplied in class. i didn't use a computer at all for the class.

Thanks so much for helping! I will bring all cheon won bills to help out the teacher. Can you give me an idea of how heavy the homework load might be? Like on average how many hours do you think you spent weekly on hw and study outside of class?
Sometimes the teachers don't bring the books with them. You can find them at the Kyobo bookstore or on Gmarket. The book is called 이민자를 위한 한국어와 한국문화
http://item2.gmarket.co.kr/English/detailview/item.aspx?goodscode=654420650

Edit: Or you can search for the PDFs on Youtube, just type in KIIP - Level 4 and it should come up.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: damocha on August 23, 2017, 03:22:50 pm
I took the pre-test a year ago in Busan but I'm moving to a different city and district. I haven't taken any classes yet.

1) Do I have to take the pre-test again in my new district?
2) It's been almost a year and I can still see all the class offerings in Busan. If I don't have to re-take the pre-test, how can I change the settings so I can see the class offerings in my new district?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: cescudero95 on August 23, 2017, 05:58:39 pm
I don't think you need to retake it damocha.  I moved from Bucheon to Seoul in the middle of participating in 3단계, then passed the test a few weeks later.  I simply changed my address and updated it on the site (automatic) and it gave me different choices for where to take 4단계.

If you've already updated your address with immigration (I hope you did soon after moving, or there's a fine you might be liable for if you haven't notified them), then when you automatically update your new residence on the 사회통합 site, then a list of locations near to you will appear for you to apply to.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: DNogitsune on August 24, 2017, 09:47:35 am
Damocha, you do have to retake the test. The limit is 6 months. You can change the settings anytime you like by logging on the site.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chichiroxursox on August 24, 2017, 10:06:05 am
Quote
Quote from: kobayashi on August 22, 2017, 06:18:33 PM
Quote from: JahMoo on August 22, 2017, 05:33:26 PM
I sat for the placement test, and I will be starting at level 4 in 2 weeks. My question is, is there anything I need to buy in preparation for this class? Do I have to buy a textbook online, or will it be available for purchase when I show up for the first class? Do I need to bring my laptop with me? Will I need any additional online resources? I'm curious because I only have a Macbook, and my school computer rejects the socinet website, so I would like to be prepared if I'm going to have to hang out at the PC rooms more often.

the teacher will bring the textbook for you. you need to buy it from them. i think the cost is 7,000 Won? try to bring exact change as usually loads of people bring manwons and then the poor teacher usually struggles to give them all change.

any other additional materials should be supplied in class. i didn't use a computer at all for the class.

Thanks so much for helping! I will bring all cheon won bills to help out the teacher. Can you give me an idea of how heavy the homework load might be? Like on average how many hours do you think you spent weekly on hw and study outside of class?

I just finished the online level 4 class and for the most part there was no additional homework after classes. More than anything I would review vocabulary since there's so much per chapter.

Also as for the book, if you'd like a digital copy there is a pdf you can find online. It is under a youtube video and that's what I used for my class. I just printed it off chapter by chapter since I like being able to write and take notes.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: stmaryjne on August 25, 2017, 11:47:55 am
Hi All

Can anyone tell me when the pre-tests are for 2017/2018?

I've been searching for hours  :cry:

Thanks!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ISHKABIBBLE on August 25, 2017, 08:16:49 pm
Hi All

Can anyone tell me when the pre-tests are for 2017/2018?

I've been searching for hours  :cry:

Thanks!


★★★2017 KIIP (Korea Immigration and Integration Program) Schedule★★★
1. Education Schedule.
(1) Pre-Test (3 times):
a. Period of Application:
(a) Dec. 8, 2016-Jan. 1, 2017 (Test Date: Jan. 7, 2017)
(b) Jan. 16, 2017-Apr. 7, 2017 (Test Date: Apr. 15, 2017)
(c) May 8, 2017-Jul. 28, 2017 (Test Date: Aug. 5, 2017)
(d) Sep. 4, 2017-Jan. 2, 2018 (Test will be 2018)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: jgfmondewc on August 27, 2017, 03:59:24 pm
Does anyone know how many days you are allowed to be absent before you automatically fail the course?

The class I signed up for, there are only 9 class days of 5.5 hours each. Does that mean if I miss more than 1 I'll fail?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Seoulcutie on August 28, 2017, 08:17:54 am
Does anyone know how many days you are allowed to be absent before you automatically fail the course?

The class I signed up for, there are only 9 class days of 5.5 hours each. Does that mean if I miss more than 1 I'll fail?

You have to attend more than 80%, so a 50 hour class means you can miss 10 hours.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Oskar5493 on August 28, 2017, 10:51:36 pm
Can anyone tell me if let's say I get automatically placed into level 5 after taking the placement tests, would I automatically get points towards my visa? Like does it count as I completed levels 1-4?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: cescudero95 on August 29, 2017, 11:56:12 am
As far as I know, you only get any points towards the visa if you complete Lvl 5.

If I am mistaken please advise.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: shostager on August 29, 2017, 12:18:49 pm
As far as I know, you only get any points towards the visa if you complete Lvl 5.

If I am mistaken please advise.

I technically took level 4 (audited, since 3 was cancelled due to lack of students), but couldn't take the test, and didn't get credit. I then tested into level 5, which I passed. Just got my points visa recently, and as I recall, I got points for completing level 4 and 5 (the reasoning being, I assume, that your language level was high enough to skip level 4, so you just get the points).
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ISHKABIBBLE on August 30, 2017, 06:13:45 pm
Someone said that if you just claim level zero, you can skip the pre-test and go straight into classes. I just got to Korea and my reading/ pronunciation is poor. So I wouldn't mind starting from the bottom. Does anyone know how to bypass the test in the online system?


I'm also hoping they offer online classes for the low tiers.   
Thank you!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: kobayashi on August 31, 2017, 08:22:11 am
Can anyone tell me if let's say I get automatically placed into level 5 after taking the placement tests, would I automatically get points towards my visa? Like does it count as I completed levels 1-4?

yes, if you take level  5 and then pass the test you will get the maximum amount of points you can get towards your visa for completing the KIIP courses.

but you need to make sure you pass the end-of-course test. otherwise you will end up with 0 points, since you haven't actually officially completed any lower levels.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chuckd on August 31, 2017, 09:40:28 am
For those of you who need some extra help!


KIIP - Level 3,4 & 5 - Vocabulary & Textbooks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSGdVOzwlMY&index=1&list=PLl4RI1pH-8dFFreuIXth7KnS-xGkBFGf0

KIIP - Level 5 - Practice Test Questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwEgCpUROBo&index=1&list=PLl4RI1pH-8dGQaE3PFx0VPe7kUrXMU9pS

KIIP - Level 5 - Lesson 1-50 - Quiz Questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd8vuZRD0M0&index=1&list=PLl4RI1pH-8dHCTJh4ZsY96vIqQH0cTzof
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Cmorgan on September 18, 2017, 07:20:52 am
I'm thinking about starting the program...if I were to start at the lowest level about how long would it take me to finish, assuming I passed all the tests on the first try? I want to get the needed points for the f2-7 visa.

Also since its now September, do I have to wait until next year to start classes? Should I just start studying now? And try to place in maybe level one instead of absolute beginner? Thanks!!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ISHKABIBBLE on September 18, 2017, 07:55:28 am
I'm thinking about starting the program...if I were to start at the lowest level about how long would it take me to finish, assuming I passed all the tests on the first try? I want to get the needed points for the f2-7 visa.

Also since its now September, do I have to wait until next year to start classes? Should I just start studying now? And try to place in maybe level one instead of absolute beginner? Thanks!!

There is a test in Janurary that you can apply for now. I don't know if you are hoping for in-class or online classes, but for level 0 there are no online classes in my area. So I'm going to take the test and try for level 1. Here is hoping they have an online class.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Cmorgan on September 18, 2017, 10:26:35 am
I'm thinking about starting the program...if I were to start at the lowest level about how long would it take me to finish, assuming I passed all the tests on the first try? I want to get the needed points for the f2-7 visa.

Also since its now September, do I have to wait until next year to start classes? Should I just start studying now? And try to place in maybe level one instead of absolute beginner? Thanks!!

There is a test in Janurary that you can apply for now. I don't know if you are hoping for in-class or online classes, but for level 0 there are no online classes in my area. So I'm going to take the test and try for level 1. Here is hoping they have an online class.

Ok thanks!! Do you know when in January? And is there some sort of test rubric...like things I need to know to be in level 1?...I know how to read hangul and some words, but thats about it.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Ariadne on November 01, 2017, 09:08:35 am
I hate this website!

Every time I try to search for classes, it just says 'no data matched.'

What am I doing wrong?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Seoulcutie on November 01, 2017, 02:22:33 pm
I hate this website!

Every time I try to search for classes, it just says 'no data matched.'

What am I doing wrong?

It may not be time to register for classes. Unless you are going to take level 5, I think the last classes of the year are currently in progress.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ISHKABIBBLE on November 01, 2017, 02:27:14 pm
I'm thinking about starting the program...if I were to start at the lowest level about how long would it take me to finish, assuming I passed all the tests on the first try? I want to get the needed points for the f2-7 visa.

Also since its now September, do I have to wait until next year to start classes? Should I just start studying now? And try to place in maybe level one instead of absolute beginner? Thanks!!

There is a test in Janurary that you can apply for now. I don't know if you are hoping for in-class or online classes, but for level 0 there are no online classes in my area. So I'm going to take the test and try for level 1. Here is hoping they have an online class.

Ok thanks!! Do you know when in January? And is there some sort of test rubric...like things I need to know to be in level 1?...I know how to read hangul and some words, but thats about it.

Right now it lists the date as January 13th.

That's all the information I have.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: Ariadne on November 02, 2017, 08:47:01 am
So we just register for the test, then wait until January?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: ISHKABIBBLE on November 02, 2017, 09:50:24 am
So we just register for the test, then wait until January?

Yep.
Pretty much.
Do what studying you can do in the mean time.
The test date and location may change.
So there is no point in looking at the details until much closer to January.
However, the test registration opened up Sept 4th, so I would suggest registering for the test as soon as possible.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: JahMoo on December 27, 2017, 01:30:21 pm
Does anyone know what date we can sign up for the next round of classes? I just passed level 4 and I will register for level 5 but I don't know when registration starts.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: jstrout on December 29, 2017, 01:51:59 pm
I am in the same boat as you (going into Level 5 as well). As far as I can gather, first there will will the beginning of the year placement test for people who are entering into the program, which will be on January 13th, with the test results coming out on January 19th. After that happens, then the classes for all the levels will open, which should be on the 19th at midnight. (If you want to get the class that you want, I recommend to be awake at midnight to register for those classes fill up quick.) I have attached the document link that gives more information (It's in Korean). I hope this helps somewhat. If you still have doubts, I recommend to call 1345 and they will confirm everything :) Good luck! Hope to see you on the other side! 8)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1p13jtGfLz1gnB8OmghfO4Kv38qaPbKHd/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1p13jtGfLz1gnB8OmghfO4Kv38qaPbKHd/view?usp=sharing)
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chuckd on March 09, 2018, 01:03:24 pm
Korea Immigration and Integration Program (KIIP) - 사회통합프로그램)
Free Korean courses for foreigners that can also help get you points toward an F-2 VISA or other VISAs later on!

Guide to 2018 Korea Immigration & Integration Program (KIIP)
https://youtu.be/uNZy_r1zSZU



KIIP - Level 3,4 & 5 - Vocabulary & Textbooks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSGdVOzwlMY...th7KnS-xGkBFGf0

KIIP - Level 5 - Practice Test Questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwEgCpUROBo...x0VPe7kUrXMU9pS

KIIP - Level 5 - Lesson 1-50 - Quiz Questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd8vuZRD0M0...sY96vIqQH0cTzof
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: JahMoo on May 07, 2018, 01:56:24 pm
From what I understand, they changed the system, so there is no longer any option to automatically pass after failing a certain amount of times. This may only apply to KIIP level 5, but I was told that you must pass the exam, or retake your same level.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: L I on May 07, 2018, 05:36:34 pm
Also, the test is becoming more difficult I was told. Study like mad because if you fail and have to retake the class, the test will likely be tougher to pass the next time around. I studied all the time and barely passed for levels 4 and 5. Really challenging exams in my opinion. Study up on Korean cultural aspects for the speaking portion.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: JahMoo on May 08, 2018, 01:16:17 pm
What I was trying to say is that I was told by my KIIP teacher that the third method you mentioned is being done away with. You can take the test repeatedly without retaking the class, but you need to pass the test to move up. Additionally, if you fail the test more than three times, you can't retake it at that level. You either need to step downwards or restart from the beginning.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: L I on June 08, 2018, 08:13:40 pm
How about studying your *** off to succeed then? You'll feel better about yourself when you learn well (rather than just getting points for showing up).
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: JahMoo on June 13, 2018, 01:59:59 pm
Until recently (???), this was the only way to pass KIIP level 4 for people who are not good with the Korean langauge:

[1] Take KIIP 4 with 80% attendance.
[2] Take the midterm and fail it.
[3] Re-take KIIP 4 with 80% attendance for an automatic pass.
[4] Receive a material completion certificate.

I am now getting hearsay reports that this method is officially dead as of...last week.
First question. Is this true?
Second question (and a harder one?). Can someone provide an official link to the KIIP website that confirms this?

If this is all true, then this is a disaster for people who want at least a naturalization certificate for materially completing (but not passing) levels 4 and 5.
I can't provide a link because I heard it directly from my KIIP teacher. If I could provide such a link, you'd most likely need to be at level 4 to understand it seeing as the entire KIIP website is in Korean. But there's probably nothing that says they are removing that method, it's more likely that the "material completion" method is just absent from the website now. ]
But it makes no sense to say this was the only way for someone who's not good at Korean to naturalize. We're all not good at Korean, and then we take the classes and improve and eventually become good at it. You really make it sound as if it's okay to approach this class with no intention of actually trying. That's probably why they got rid of that other method, to weed out the people who weren't really trying and were effectively wasting their resources (as the class is free).
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: cescudero95 on June 29, 2018, 12:52:28 pm
WOOHOOO!!! Just received notice I passed Level 5! 

What's the next step?  Anyone recently get their first F-2?
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로그램)
Post by: chuckd on February 08, 2019, 02:43:26 pm
Guide to 2019 Korea Immigration & Integration Program (KIIP)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfRZ0AJR1VE...th7KnS-xGkBFGf0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfRZ0AJR1VE&t=0s&index=2&list=PLl4RI1pH-8dFFreuIXth7KnS-xGkBFGf0)


KIIP - Level 3,4 & 5 - Vocabulary & Textbooks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSGdVOzwlMY...th7KnS-xGkBFGf0

KIIP - Level 5 - Practice Test Questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwEgCpUROBo...x0VPe7kUrXMU9pS

KIIP - Level 5 - Lesson 1-50 - Quiz Questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd8vuZRD0M0...sY96vIqQH0cTzof
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로&
Post by: chuckd on January 25, 2021, 02:52:08 pm
Guide to 2021 Korea Immigration & Integration Program (KIIP)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LNcmM7Y43s&list=PLl4RI1pH-8dGQaE3PFx0VPe7kUrXMU9pS&index=1

KIIP - Level 3,4 & 5 - Vocabulary & Previous Textbooks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSGdVOzwlMY...th7KnS-xGkBFGf0

KIIP - Level 5 - Practice Test Questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwEgCpUROBo...x0VPe7kUrXMU9pS

KIIP - Level 5 - Lesson 1-50 - Quiz Questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd8vuZRD0M0...sY96vIqQH0cTzof
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통&
Post by: chuckd on February 02, 2021, 12:00:07 pm
KIIP 2021 - Level 3 (중급 1) Intermediate 1 - VOCABULARY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ki0aEcwO5g&list=PLl4RI1pH-8dHHfU-fspTb-Kd1pmYo27EU&index=2
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로&
Post by: chuckd on February 05, 2021, 02:55:26 pm
KIIP 2021 - Level 4 (중급 2) Intermediate 2 - VOCABULARY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pd_DkrflKw&list=PLl4RI1pH-8dHHfU-fspTb-Kd1pmYo27EU&index=3
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통&
Post by: hangook77 on March 02, 2021, 08:49:19 am
This is such a long thread.  Did I comment already? 

Anyways, a friend took the language course about 10 years back?  He lived in Seoul.  He took TOPIK level 1 and 2 course.  It was taught in English.  They had their own separate exam.  He scored enough to pass the level 2 and then the next course was in Korean mostly.  He took another test and got Level 3 and kind of stopped I think.  (Maybe the Korean part was hard?) 

I had another friend who tried to take a course now.  But maybe out here in the provinces down south, they don't do English?  He said he went for a year on and off taking some course.  But it was all in Korean.  Complete waste of time.  He had very little Korean knowledge going in.  So, he got nothing out of it and never understood anything they were saying.  Complete utter BS waste of time.  Not sure why they are only offering the course only in Korean even if you are a beginner.  I think must do it on purpose hoping to discourage newer folks from learning Korean. 

Osmosis works for young children.  It doesn't work for adults.  Otherwise every Tom, Dick, and Harry English teacher would be fluent by now.  Anyways, self study, memorize vocabulary words, practice saying them in simple sentences, ask your Korean co teachers for pronunciation, get yourself to a base level.  (Of course very few want to take that extra step - pausing to memorize new vocabulary words.)   Then, use Rosetta Stone, then go through some of the TOPIK books (skipping over what you already know).  I mostly suggest Rosetta only to practice listening.  I got myself to a base level and then stopped unfortunately.  I want to say I am level 2 liberally.  I still am better at it than a lot of English teachers though.  My main weakness is studying question words.  Know all the question words so you can take a test.  (I heard they no longer test in English which is dumb as $h!T.)  IE  Underline or blank is beancan  (I think of a can of beans to remind me - word tricks) 빈칸 - I think? 

It doesn't help when so many Koreans speak English nowadays.  Back in the day out in the provinces, it was sink or swim.  Gave you more motivation to learn the language as hardly anyone spoke English.  I feel bad I haven't studied in years.  So many speak English to me in school and stores and where ever now. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로&
Post by: Kyndo on March 02, 2021, 11:52:45 am
The irony of somebody complaining about learning Korean in Korean while teaching English in English is pretty amusing.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로&
Post by: L I on March 02, 2021, 11:57:48 am
Is it ironic? Compared to adults, kids learn languages better and are better at learning through immersion / osmosis he said. Also, all Koreans have studied English starting from a young age and thus have a significant foundation.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합&
Post by: buckybee on March 02, 2021, 11:59:23 am
Since, this program was brought up. Anyone planning on taking class within the next few months should know that the books have changed. You can check out the textbooks here: https://kiipgrammar.com/resources.html

Also,  the new books now have a workbook to go along with it. I think the changes were good. The books are more up to date with current times and the teachers all have accompanying ppts to go with the books. Almost all the vocabulary words have pictures for better understanding.

Below is a coupang link. The book and workbook are 10,000 won each, for each level.
https://www.coupang.com/np/search?component=&q=KIIP&channel=user
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로&
Post by: Kyndo on March 02, 2021, 12:01:57 pm
Is it ironic?
Don't you think?
A little too ironic, I really do think.
It's like rain on your wedding day, or a a free ride when you've already paid.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로&
Post by: buckybee on March 02, 2021, 12:18:41 pm
 
I had another friend who tried to take a course now.  But maybe out here in the provinces down south, they don't do English?  He said he went for a year on and off taking some course.  But it was all in Korean.  Complete waste of time.  He had very little Korean knowledge going in.  So, he got nothing out of it and never understood anything they were saying.  Complete utter BS waste of time.  Not sure why they are only offering the course only in Korean even if you are a beginner.  I think must do it on purpose hoping to discourage newer folks from learning Korean. 
 

I think the problem is that they don't have enough teachers to cater to so many languages, so they chose to make the program completely immersive. Also, even if they did, getting a specific class taught in your language would be even harder. It's already hard to get a class that fits into your schedule. However, I think classes would be better if they made the textbook in various languages. Especially because they could go over nuances and give more detailed information for grammar.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합&
Post by: hangook77 on March 02, 2021, 12:23:08 pm
The irony of somebody complaining about learning Korean in Korean while teaching English in English is pretty amusing.

Adults don't learn through Osmosis.  Look it up and get some common sense.  I teach children who do and also have classes in their own language with the Korean teacher. 

I had to use English books with translations to study my Korean to a base level years ago.  I didn't use a Korean book only in Korean.  It wouldn't have worked for me.  Usually when you start to introduce a new language to someone, unless they are very young children, you use that person's native language to introduce it.  DUH!!!

Maybe I have to repeat myself since you're not getting it.  My friend who took one of these courses over the past year didn't learn anything from it because they instructor spoke only Korean the whole time.  Your Korean has to be at a base level before you can do that.  I prob could do that, but a rookie beginner adult can't.  It's just common sense. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로&
Post by: hangook77 on March 02, 2021, 12:25:14 pm
I think the problem is that they don't have enough teachers to cater to so many languages, so they chose to make the program completely immersive. Also, even if they did, getting a specific class taught in your language would be even harder. It's already hard to get a class that fits into your schedule. However, I think classes would be better if they made the textbook in various languages. Especially because they could go over nuances and give more detailed information for grammar.

Don't most foreigners here including from non native countries use English as a second language or a linga franca?  I know it wouldn't work for everyone, but the most common languages could be done.  They did do it years ago. 
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로&
Post by: Kyndo on March 02, 2021, 12:33:38 pm
Adults don't learn through Osmosis.  Look it up and get some common sense.  I teach children who do and also have classes in their own language with the Korean teacher. 

I had to use English books with translations to study my Korean to a base level years ago.  I didn't use a Korean book only in Korean.  It wouldn't have worked for me.  Usually when you start to introduce a new language to someone, unless they are very young children, you use that person's native language to introduce it.  DUH!!!

Maybe I have to repeat myself since you're not getting it.  My friend who took one of these courses over the past year didn't learn anything from it because they instructor spoke only Korean the whole time.  Your Korean has to be at a base level before you can do that.  I prob could do that, but a rookie beginner adult can't.  It's just common sense. 
No, you're right. I don't disagree with you at all.
But the irony of it is still pretty tasty!
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합&
Post by: buckybee on March 02, 2021, 12:35:11 pm
Don't most foreigners here including from non native countries use English as a second language or a linga franca?  I know it wouldn't work for everyone, but the most common languages could be done.  They did do it years ago. 

I mean they probably do but it doesn't mean they're particularity good at it. It may cause more confusion. Also, for an immigration program I think it best to be all inclusive instead of "most" inclusive. That being said, there could be changes. More access to information that is provided by the government in various languages rather then having it be sink or swim without a paddle.
Title: Re: KIIP Korean Immigration Integration Programme (사회통합프로&
Post by: hangook77 on March 02, 2021, 12:53:29 pm
No, you're right. I don't disagree with you at all.
But the irony of it is still pretty tasty!

Yeah, you're right about that.  Ha ha,