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Title: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: Yellowtree77 on November 07, 2013, 01:31:46 pm
While chatting with some KTs at my school one of them asked me with great enthusiasm "did I see Park Geun-hye meeting the Queen on TV last night?"

I am British but wasn't aware of it before then, there was next to no mention of it on the BBC website or the Guardian.

Why do you think the BBC is not interested?

Is it not normal for such state visits to be reported on the BBC?
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: jacksonias on November 07, 2013, 01:53:19 pm
The BBC had an interview with Park Geun-Hye on their website earlier this week:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24768298

And there is an article about a Korean Film Festival starting in London today which coincides with her visit.

There was a lot of pomp and pageantry surrounding her meeting with dear old Liz, which might explain The Guardian's lack of coverage.

The Telegraph's website carried some footage of it though:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/queen-elizabeth-II/10427646/Royal-welcome-for-President-of-South-Korea.html

Not loads of coverage, true, but I don't think there is a deliberate lack of interest by the BBC.
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: adfletch83 on November 07, 2013, 01:56:03 pm
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2013/11/116_145726.html
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: Yellowtree77 on November 07, 2013, 02:02:03 pm
Thanks to both above, I had already seen all the articles mentioned.

I just thought it odd that the BBC only briefly mentioned the visit on the website rather than giving it it's own piece.

I guess no big deal just thought it was a little strange.

All the KTs at my school love it.

Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: Blast Hardcheese on November 07, 2013, 04:03:03 pm
Well The Empire is very important to Korea.  But Korea isn't so important to The Empire.
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: Rusty Brown on November 07, 2013, 05:54:27 pm
I'm happy at any mention in the Korean media of the UK's involvement in the war as a lot of Koreans seem ignorant of it. To be fair, a lot of Brits are ignorant of the Commonwealth's involvment in WWll but the UK was the second biggest force in Korea and you could imagine the anger here if this were the other way round:

"Out of 16 nations that sent their armies to Korea, however, only the U.K. did not have a war memorial for some reason."

On a side note, when I was back in England this summer I got chatting to a Korean war veteren at a bus stop. He told me that of the thirty men he went out with only twelve came home. I mentioned that I was currently working in Korea and he looked at me like I was on drugs. I had to spout out some city names and Korean words to convince him. Nice old chap.
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: sadpanda on November 07, 2013, 08:22:43 pm
Well I certainly hope she brought some soft, lavender gloves to shake the queens hand with.
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: qi on November 07, 2013, 09:32:15 pm
The BBC had an interview with Park Geun-Hye on their website earlier this week:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24768298

And there is an article about a Korean Film Festival starting in London today which coincides with her visit.

There was a lot of pomp and pageantry surrounding her meeting with dear old Liz, which might explain The Guardian's lack of coverage.

The Telegraph's website carried some footage of it though:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/queen-elizabeth-II/10427646/Royal-welcome-for-President-of-South-Korea.html

Not loads of coverage, true, but I don't think there is a deliberate lack of interest by the BBC.

I'm not a big fan of Parh Geun Hye but I could see why the Queen would respect her. It's unusual for a Korean (never mind a head of state) to remain single and without children. Normally they're trying to zerg in the next generation, so they can have them continue the rise of the sacred Taeguki master race, and tell everyone about the blessed 4 seasons, and the wonder of the kimchi. Park at least seems somewhat unconventional, especially for a Korean. Maybe too unconventional for my liking!
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: BloosCorn on November 07, 2013, 09:54:59 pm
I'm not a big fan of Parh Geun Hye but I could see why the Queen would respect her. It's unusual for a Korean (never mind a head of state) to remain single and without children. Normally they're trying to zerg in the next generation, so they can have them continue the rise of the sacred Taeguki master race, and tell everyone about the blessed 4 seasons, and the wonder of the kimchi. Park at least seems somewhat unconventional, especially for a Korean. Maybe too unconventional for my liking!

Unusual for a Korean not to have kids? The birth rate is by most all measures in the top five lowest in the world. The confucian heritage bit of carrying your line on nonwithstanding, I'd dare say not having children is super Korean.
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: Deez on November 08, 2013, 07:46:31 am
You do realize how many world leaders visit countries like England annually, don't you? The media generally doesn't report this type of thing unless it's a country of importance like China or the US. Outside of the Korean peninsula, South Korea is hardly a country worth discussing to most people. This is why you have the Korean media playing up the visit, while the Brits hardly care.
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: K on November 08, 2013, 07:56:42 am
I heard she tripped on her hanbok while arriving at a dinner hosted by the mayor of London, got up gracefully and said, "Dramatic entry." Then, when she exited she said, "Quiet exit."

I quite liked that.

Found a source: http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2013/11/116_145874.html
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: adfletch83 on November 08, 2013, 08:47:22 am
I can just imagine what Prince Phil has been saying to her. "now then love, what's all this fuss about that rock between you and the sushi-brigade?"  :-[
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: Yellowtree77 on November 08, 2013, 09:09:19 am
Ah Prince Phil, what a legend and a national asset.

"Well The Empire is very important to Korea.  But Korea isn't so important to The Empire."

This is probably pretty close to the mark, even if it is foolish for the UK to dismiss Korea. Korea has way more spending power than our sorry little group of islands these days.
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: jwharrison30 on November 08, 2013, 11:38:16 am
Park Geun-Hye met the Queen eh?

So one comes from a tiny insignificant country and is an old trout looking creature of the night, presiding over a homogeneous xenophobic and fascist culture that is barely relevant in today's world, hanging on the coat tails of past generations including her father just looking for an excuse to take the entire country back to the 1500's.

And the other one is.... 

Korean! HA! I crack myself up.
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: Space on November 08, 2013, 12:56:20 pm
Park Geun-Hye met the Queen eh?

So one comes from a tiny insignificant country and is an old trout looking creature of the night, presiding over a homogeneous xenophobic and fascist culture that is barely relevant in today's world, hanging on the coat tails of past generations including her father just looking for an excuse to take the entire country back to the 1500's.

And the other one is.... 

Korean! HA! I crack myself up.

Yeah, hilarious... practically pissing myself here.
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: adfletch83 on November 08, 2013, 01:42:45 pm
Park Geun-Hye met the Queen eh?

So one comes from a tiny insignificant country and is an old trout looking creature of the night, presiding over a homogeneous xenophobic and fascist culture that is barely relevant in today's world, hanging on the coat tails of past generations including her father just looking for an excuse to take the entire country back to the 1500's.

And the other one is.... 

Korean! HA! I crack myself up.

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/1158287/tumbleweed-o.gif)
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: Savant on November 13, 2013, 07:06:58 pm
http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/Article.aspx?aid=2980365

So, the Korean media are again complaining about their mistreatment when in Britain.

It's possible but let's look at the complaints.

Horse Guards Parade. The Korean journalists were (allegedly) late so were initially denied entry. Seems reasonable to make them wait if the event is almost starting. So, the British didn't know where to put you? Then, don't be late!

Not allowed to leave the finished event before good ol' Mayor Boris does. Yeah, you got case there but it's probably because you did that Korean whiny voice to piss off the Brits that you were kept behind like rude schoolchildren.

Wow! At the airport you were asked to remove all liquids from your bag because some of you may be potential terrorists. Maybe, some of you write for some left-wing newspapers. Even the US doesn't screen you so vigorously? I highly doubt that.

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When asked why we had to move yet again, a female police officer replied in a scornful voice, “You should move unless you want to be hit by the car.”
Yeah, heaven forbid that you can just stand around anywhere in an airport. Not being hit by a car sounds like a good enough reason to move out the way.

So what's to blames for all this angst? Overzealous British security people or Koreans thinking they can act how they wish in a foreign country cause its how we do it in Korea.

Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: Squire on November 13, 2013, 09:03:57 pm
^ Koreans being forced to line up properly by Brits... it brings tears of joy to my eyes  ;D
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: Nivea on November 14, 2013, 07:36:16 am
The British police probably deal with more major state visits and large scale public events in a year than most Korean police do in their lives, I assume they know what they are doing. Maybe they would have felt more comfortable if the police just constantly blew their whistle at them.
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: confusedsafferinkorea on November 14, 2013, 07:55:08 am
Man, I love the last few posts on this thread about the journalist, entitled much, they are.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: Yellowtree77 on November 14, 2013, 08:07:06 am
An official from the Korean embassy in London kept saying to us, “What can we do about this?” while a Korean official protested in a loud voice but was ignored. She later burst into tears."

That is my favourite part of the article. The thought of an over-privileged journalist crying over this warms my cockles on a cold winter morning.

Some of the comments below the article are spot on too. We, as foreigners in Korea, are often treated with similar contempt but most of us don't burst in to tears over it!
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: Space on November 14, 2013, 08:25:13 am
That article was brilliant.

Savant summarised it perfectly.


Beautiful

But I wonder how many Koreans reading this will see it that way.
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: adfletch83 on November 14, 2013, 08:28:55 am
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They lectured us that it was “rude” to leave before the departure of the honorable Mayor of London and a few other government officials on the stage. We looked up. They were happily chatting to each other on the stage and in no rush to depart.


Because no Brit has ever been in Korea and been made to wait for the Principal/ Boss/Guest  to finish their dinner, chat for 50 minutes without acknowledging us whilst they drink soju, have they?

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British police told us to remove everything containing liquid from our luggage. Normally, Blue House correspondents accompanying the president on her plane are exempted from the harsh security applied to ordinary tourists.

Sorry, who are you saying are good at 'pomp and contempt' again?

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What mattered was the British authority’s attitude and whether it originates from a habit of looking down on other countries...

Sorry, has this sentence really be written by a Korean?? I'm lost for words...

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In both the Korean and English dictionaries, the answer is hypocrisy.

Ahhhhh, thanks, that one will do!
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: TheSaint1981 on November 14, 2013, 08:46:31 am
Hahaha I've just shown this article to another teacher in my school. He doesn't teach English but speaks it very well. He is sound as well so you can have a balanced discussion with him. He was also very proud about Park Geun-Hye visiting Britain and seeing the Queen.

Anyway he said that in Korea journalists are very powerful, even more so than top ranking prosecutors and civil servants and will not be used to being treated in this way.

I replied what like everybody else? He laughed and said yes. He actually seemed quite happy that these journalists had been put in their place.
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: Epistemology on November 14, 2013, 09:42:54 am



http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/Article.aspx?aid=2980365

So, the Korean media are again complaining about their mistreatment when in Britain.



Oh this is delightful. Absolutely delightful. You sir, have made my day

 I gather those self important journalists didn't realise that they were merely treated like the average person. A right many of those nationalist windbags refuse to acknowledge should exist for the south Asian migrant workers here.

Anyway, I figure that now that the media has been 'slighted' they'll probably turn their blowhorns on the UK. Luckily, its not as if anyone takes them seriously anymore anyway(well except themselves :p)
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: Space on November 15, 2013, 08:41:09 am
This showed an interesting angle on the Korean media around Park Geun-hye's visit to Europe.

http://globalvoicesonline.org/2013/11/10/south-korean-media-whitewashes-presidents-european-trip/ (http://globalvoicesonline.org/2013/11/10/south-korean-media-whitewashes-presidents-european-trip/)
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: Rusty Brown on November 15, 2013, 03:35:11 pm
This showed an interesting angle on the Korean media around Park Geun-hye's visit to Europe.

http://globalvoicesonline.org/2013/11/10/south-korean-media-whitewashes-presidents-european-trip/ (http://globalvoicesonline.org/2013/11/10/south-korean-media-whitewashes-presidents-european-trip/)

Some interesting comments from Koreans:

"...The mainstream Korean media is so supine and self-congratulatory, it’s almost unreadable – endless stories on the glories of Samsung or Korean food. Whatever. Korea needs a lot more oppositional-adversarial journalism like this."

It's nice to learn that there are Koreans who see their media for what it is. I don't understand its motives for being so self-congratulatory. When I arrived here there was a short news film entitled "London is crazy for K-pop". I kid you not. It was about a load of Korean pop groups performing to a small crowd of mostly East Asians and non-British Europeans. I knew that from all the flags. I can't speak for the crowd, but I'm sure there were plenty there purely out of curiosity. Whatever. It was bogus and silly and an excuse for the Korean media to blow smoke up its nation's arse. When I first got here I got asked a lot about K-pop's popularity overseas but not so much nowadays. Maybe they're better informed about it now.
Title: Re: Park Geun-hye visited the UK?
Post by: Nivea on November 15, 2013, 04:40:40 pm
Last time I saw a major item about South Korea on BBC news it was during Cheousk and they were ripping the piss out of them for giving each other presents of Spam.