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Title: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Ectofuego on December 21, 2010, 09:43:43 am
Why do we have to deskwarm?

Nobody knows, but NETs aren't the ones who do--Korean contract teachers deskwarm, as well.
Tenured teachers (they rotate) deskwarm, too, as do the principal and VP.

Things to Do

-lesson plan ahead
-improve your MS Office skills; people in business should focus on Word, Excel, and PowerPoint (finance majors VBA as well)
-keep abreast with your field of study, especially if it's computer related--programming, graphic design, etc.
-brush up on your financial literacy
-brush up on your grammar if necessary
-learn a new skill that may make you more marketable in the job market here or back home
-exercise


Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: taeyang on December 21, 2010, 09:45:38 am
lesson plan? :P

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ.   
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: Ectofuego on December 21, 2010, 09:46:49 am
lesson plans finished work books and activities finished for winter camp..  I even made a new workbook for the kids afterschool in the spring
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: helloana on December 21, 2010, 09:59:17 am
start planning for summer english camp. :)
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: taeyang on December 21, 2010, 10:05:07 am
yikes!! what about writing letters to people at home? I find that relaxing. plus your mum could really appreciate a nice hand-written letter?
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: L.H Puttgrass on December 21, 2010, 10:08:23 am
Do you got iTunes on your Pc there??  If so, you can download tons of free content like audio and video podcasts, stream tons of music and learn stuff with iTune University.  I like to catch up on HBO, Showtime and SciFi series myself but it will cost you a bit.  Personally, I can kill hours just with the free stuff alone..
And if you're like me, you got kindle for pc ... so much stuff you can be reading with all that time !!
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: Morticae on December 21, 2010, 10:13:10 am
I haven't had the opportunity to deskwarm beyond part of a day, which I spend reading. When I get some real deskwarming time in, I hope to lesson plan a month or two in advance. I like to be ahead of the game!
Title: Get some post-cards and get in touch with
Post by: divine on December 21, 2010, 10:17:32 am
 :( ;)The next time you visit a busy city, buy a package of postcards. Whenever you are at your desk with nothing to do, write to your beloved friends and family.

You will be amazed just how therapeutic that could be. Then of course mail it!
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: Ectofuego on December 21, 2010, 10:18:36 am
Not a bad idea with the post cards.  Thanks!   ;D
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: magicalmerlinmark on December 21, 2010, 10:28:54 am
Baduk (aka Go.) There's a website where it's really easy to play online. The game is infuriatingly difficult but quite easy to pick up. We should get a waygook tournament going ;-)

http://www.playok.com/en/go/
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: RufusW on December 21, 2010, 10:35:29 am
Explore the powerpoint templates and think of a theme for yourself - or an entirely new concept.  It's pretty satisfying and you get awesome PPT skills!

/neeeeeeerd
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: glitterstarbeau on December 21, 2010, 10:42:21 am
Dramacrazy.net.  You can tell yourself you're improving your Korean.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: Janitor on December 21, 2010, 11:34:36 am
1) Learn Korean
2) Write a Blog
3) Decorate your Classroom (or arrange the desks)
4) Movies
5) Create a lesson "battle plan" for the next term. (lessons, worksheets, ppt's and books)
6) Origami (seriously pick up a book and just figure some cool stuff out. Then teach it to your students plater)
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: dchrzano on December 21, 2010, 11:43:04 am
There is so much that you can do. I plan on cleaning my English classroom that is being used for Winter Camp including rearranging it, washing the desks and floor and decorating it in snowfakes and winter decorations.

Plus there is always learning Korean or taking an online course.

I am also making a scrapbook of all the major things I did in Korea and taking it home with me.

Also for those going on winter vacation it is a great time to plan your daily activities such as the tours you will go on, what sights to see and what your daily budget will be.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: Paul on December 21, 2010, 11:56:50 am
Learn how to use GIMP, Audacity or Windows Movie Player (or the Mac equiv). All are free (or come with Windows) and are exceedingly useful at work, and handy skills to have at home.

TV Tropes will eat your day.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: bern on December 21, 2010, 12:11:53 pm
Basketball in the school gym to keep warm. PS3 on the projector.

Nice avatar Rufus!  :)
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: displayname on December 21, 2010, 12:13:18 pm
stumbleupon.com

be careful, you'll be addicted.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: lauralauramac on December 21, 2010, 12:27:27 pm
I love Brain Pickings. 

http://www.brainpickings.org/
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: hankmcmasters on December 21, 2010, 12:37:15 pm
im reading a travel guide about my winter vacation desination


Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: raskal on December 21, 2010, 12:59:42 pm
Wow good call with stumble upon~ This is awesome..!

I've been practicing korean on http://korean.sogang.ac.kr/
The site is great.

Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: notinKS on December 21, 2010, 01:05:59 pm
Dramacrazy.net.  You can tell yourself you're improving your Korean.

I second this idea. I'm almost finished with "Cinderella Man" (HIGHLY recommend) and my co-teacher has recommended "Beethoven Virus" so I'll watch that next. Unfortunately I have school for two more weeks :'(
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: stephenflett on December 21, 2010, 01:35:03 pm
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/peepls/646/go-home

Thats a couple of hours done anyway. Puzzle games sap the time away, if you finish that and fancy another - try 'bloxorz'.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: raintenshi on December 21, 2010, 01:52:36 pm
What about creating "last minute lessons"? For those days that you get those wonderful surprises 5 minutes before class ^^;

Otherwise, you can watch some movies/TV shows, clean (:laugh:), spend time writing letters home (I know I find hand writing relaxing as hell over here now), take some time to check out the news in the world..

I agree with @Paul. Working on some computer skills/tasks really make the day go by fast. Creating new media can take a lot of time and it doesn't even have to be complex/deep. Once I get some things settled with my school, I want to try to create some comic pages to make the lessons a little more interesting. And by create, I mean search for images. I'm not THAT creative and talented that I can draw  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: raskal on December 21, 2010, 01:54:44 pm
Stumble upon came up with this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_deaths

A lot of wtf?? For example, a guy in Canada was walking down a residential street and was hit by a helicopter, causing his death..
Or a man was executed by drowning in a barrel of wine (his request) (in the 1600's).
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: richarquis on December 21, 2010, 02:17:40 pm
Regarding "working on computer skills." If, like me, you are constantly hamstrung by your Korean language OS, and want to use MS Word and PPT more efficiently, I'm working on an Excel document, with a side by side Korean/English translation of the menus. I'm doing it by having my laptop open on my desk, in English, and the school PC beside it, in Korean, and creating the list that way. The main menus are done, I'm just going through the sub-menus now (eg, File > Send to > Recipient using fax... etc) which aren't so nicely ordered as the main menus.

If anyone knows of a pre-existing file like this, please tell me, so I can stop with the head scratching. Otherwise, watch the forums, I'll post it as soon as it's finished.

(Learning to read the menus in Korean is also a great way to learn commands, and lots of new vocab. At first I hated having to do it, now it's starting to become much easier and less frustrating.)
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: MiaBritton on December 22, 2010, 01:09:23 pm
ch131.com- catch up on your tv watching :)
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: Davey on December 22, 2010, 01:31:08 pm
I will be sitting here for a good week doing nothing and need some ideas..  I have been doing webcomics, going to bored.com for flash games, reading wikipedia, but Im running out of things to do and its only tuesday.  Come people, post some cool things to do!

study korean?
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: tfuller on December 22, 2010, 01:38:50 pm
Study Korean.
Video games (my work computer is fast).
Blog.
Source new material for class (although this site makes that incredibly easy!).
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: Eros on December 22, 2010, 02:12:45 pm
It's amazing that in a world full of so many wonders, mankind has created boredom. [Not verbatim but it's from Terry Pratchett's Hogfather.]

Alright your stuck at school but there's still plenty to do. Read a book/write a book/watch films/watch tv shows/play computer games/surf the net/practice taekwondo/do yoga/learn a foreign language/prep materials for lessons -plans/games/activities [then upload them here!!!]/meditate/peruse - download and mess about with itunes apps if you have an ipod touch/shop.

These are just things off the top of my head. Unfortunately I can't do many of the above as my school has me prepping quite a few things for the coming school year but I wouldn't mind desk warming if I had to.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: fake_blood on December 22, 2010, 02:36:54 pm
with regards to deskwarming, do the co-teachers/VPs/Ps/etc expect us to be working efficiently during all of that time?

I mean, I will be spending some of my deskwarming time making lessons for the upcoming semester, but I can't imagine all my time will be spent working- are they okay with us just watching movies, reading books, etc?
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: moonhaus on December 22, 2010, 02:56:45 pm
this is a great time to research gad schools/new job prospects

or learn to knit
I have a friend who makes quilts in her down time

or call your family and friends that are so hard to get in touch with because of the crazy time difference

slide down the hallways in your socks....you got options....

Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: master6 on December 22, 2010, 03:18:01 pm
Wow Cole... I envy you......If I used a computer as good as yours, I'd be sliding down the hallways in my socks as moonhaus put it.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: tfuller on December 22, 2010, 04:35:26 pm
Study Korean.
Video games (my work computer is fast).
Blog.
Source new material for class (although this site makes that incredibly easy!).

Fffffffffff. I'm jealous.

My computer at work (the one I'm typing on right now) is from 2003. It's got a 40g HD, like 512mb ram. It's awful.

Dual core 2.8GHz, 4gb ram, 500gb hdd. English center was built a few months before i arrived, so the only English classroom is where i am at for the 8hrs/day. It's why deskwarming technically isn't deskwarming, as we do a lot of multimedia stuff when the students have spare time (video camera/voice recorder/photo diaries) 
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: juliann on December 22, 2010, 06:31:18 pm
Asian dramas and movies with English subtitles. Free, streaming, and LOADS of choice:

www.mysoju.com
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: narkorecordings on December 23, 2010, 07:57:46 am
http://100sand1000s.tumblr.com/post/859211668/fuckyeahalbuquerque-click-to-make-circles

this website is a glory time "spender". just click, watch the circles and relax...
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: tovarivera82 on December 23, 2010, 08:11:41 am
You could do some of my lessons!  8)

Seriously, I'm sooooo jealous of those of y'all who get to desk warm. I know it can be boring, but I'm working my tail off over here!  :P

Gotta go ~ more lesson planning to do!  ;D
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: injuredeagle on December 23, 2010, 08:43:18 am
So much to do! Deskwarming is great!

I've seen so many good Korea blogs that I've bookmarked so I may spend my time going over some of them. Check out Waygooks section, the Korean Blog List, Eat your Kimchi, Alex and Chickpea Do Korea, Ask A Korean, The Waygook Effect, etc., etc.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: GreenFloyd on December 23, 2010, 12:48:45 pm
^ Wow! "Alex and Chickpea do Korea" is a famous blog? Do you know them? They're my friends in Daegu. Alex puts together some nice videos! Cool to see that mention on here.

Quote
with regards to deskwarming, do the co-teachers/VPs/Ps/etc expect us to be working efficiently during all of that time?

That's a great question and I've never quite been sure on the answer.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: nwr513 on December 23, 2010, 01:13:16 pm
pushups.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: infogoddess on December 23, 2010, 02:37:05 pm
working on the Twelve days of Deskwarming and then I remembered this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIeHeJ0V4LY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIeHeJ0V4LY)

enjoy
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: rainesbaines on December 23, 2010, 02:56:22 pm
I'm sure we could devise some sort of outsourcing system to spread the work around during the break.   8)
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: infogoddess on December 24, 2010, 08:41:12 am
and in case you like Belle and Sebastian, their Glasgow Holiday Concert is available on NPR

http://www.npr.org/2010/12/22/132088913/dec-21-belle-and-sebastians-holiday-spectacular&sc=nl&cc=mn-20101223 (http://www.npr.org/2010/12/22/132088913/dec-21-belle-and-sebastians-holiday-spectacular&sc=nl&cc=mn-20101223)

it makes a great background while cleaning the classroom
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: JuliusCaesar108 on December 24, 2010, 09:34:58 am
If you're school has a scanner, I'd recommend using it to make ebooks out of books you already have - that way you can do reading with your class.  At least at my school, I have a number of students but hardly read to them because I don't have a large eBook library.  Start making 'em for your school's use only (I don't recommend sharing it because that is copyright infringement, but if your school already owns the book it should be okay).
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: red on December 24, 2010, 09:52:23 am
working on the Twelve days of Deskwarming and then I remembered this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIeHeJ0V4LY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIeHeJ0V4LY)

enjoy


HAHAHA!! I enjoyed watching it for my deskwarming :P
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: sheila on December 24, 2010, 10:13:22 am
Decorate your classroom in the holiday or seasonal spirit...
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: amn34 on December 24, 2010, 11:00:32 am
Decorate your classroom in the holiday or seasonal spirit...

You know you're an English teacher in Korea when you can read one sentence on another teacher's board and know she's doing a lesson on Kung Fu Panda! :P
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: Ectofuego on December 24, 2010, 11:12:52 am
I started decorating my classroom and was than told I have to take them down.  No decor allowed anymore
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: teachermc on December 24, 2010, 11:18:41 am
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I started decorating my classroom and was than told I have to take them down.  No decor allowed anymore

The situation is the same at my school.  The school is only two years old and the English classrooms were "professionally decorated" complete with street images of "English places" (Italy and Germany in reality), including a picture that shows front-and-center a sign that says "SEX SHOP."  When I pointed the sign out, the "professionals" put a visible patch over the word 'sex' and wrote 'pizza.'  It's the most creepy 'pizza shop' I have ever seen.  So, who are we to decorate?
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: amn34 on December 24, 2010, 11:29:21 am
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I started decorating my classroom and was than told I have to take them down.  No decor allowed anymore

The situation is the same at my school.  The school is only two years old and the English classrooms were "professionally decorated" complete with street images of "English places" (Italy and Germany in reality), including a picture that shows front-and-center a sign that says "SEX SHOP."  When I pointed the sign out, the "professionals" put a visible patch over the word 'sex' and wrote 'pizza.'  It's the most creepy 'pizza shop' I have ever seen.  So, who are we to decorate?

AHAHAHHAHA, I'm literally laughing out loud.  My room is decorated with massive pictures of Jesus.  DEFINITELY not my choice.
Title: Desk Warming
Post by: red on December 24, 2010, 02:45:31 pm
Just wondering...how's your deskwarming going??
I'm still stuck here in school.... :'(
keeping my desk warm..huhuhu
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: theronfau on December 24, 2010, 02:56:32 pm
ye me too just finished watching the NBA
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: JuliusCaesar108 on December 24, 2010, 03:25:04 pm
I don't have many chances to deskwarm.  Even with the few days I have without classes (like today), there are still camps to prepare for.
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: Ectofuego on December 24, 2010, 03:29:49 pm
Watched
Man, Woman, Wild - 2 episodes
Auction Kings - Season 1
Movie - Masterminds
Pawnshops - 1 episode
Documentary - Life After People

Games
www.bored.com
www.I-am-bored.com

Spamming waygoog
becoming a illustrous grandmaster of facebook
emailing
making postcards
Installing updates on computers
fixing surrond sound speakers in the school auditorium
requesting certain english books be added to the school library
made new book for afterschool phonics class in spring
slept on couch in office
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: isanghan on December 24, 2010, 03:41:06 pm
I planned my trip to Hong Kong.
Then I watched "大兵小將" ("Little Big Soldier") on www.mysoju.com.
I ate a lunch of my choosing.
I drank coffee.
I drank more coffee.
I just finished another coffee.

Oh, yes, and I also finished up the materials for my Winter Camp.
(And I found out that I have 5 vacation days that I'm still entitled to.)

Happy Christmas!
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: plain.scrambled.eggs on December 24, 2010, 05:46:31 pm
I don't get to deskwarm during vacation:-\ I have to teach two different kids of camp by myself. One is an intensive camp for my special class and the other is just regular camp for the other kids. I didn't even get an extra planning day.

I am looking foreword to those deskwarming days in February!
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: msqueen888 on January 04, 2011, 10:37:26 am
      Was late to deskwarm today b/c someone decided to back out into the street without looking and although I laid on my horn they didnt seem to notice.  BAM! Nothing too serious.
   Then get a text from my coteach saying "isnt it your working day? i dont see you here".  I text back and say "late car wreck." 
       A few minutes later I arrive at school, go into my office say "hey" to my coteach.  She doesnt reply, doesnt ask if I'm okay or what happened.  UGHH! 

Would you consider this extremely rude? I'm a little pissed right now!
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: mteacher on January 04, 2011, 10:42:12 am
I am deskfreezing too..   My co teacher (who is also supposed to teach some kind of camp this week) just informed me that she will only be back on Thursday... wondering whats happening to her camp...  I also get to sit here until 5pm.. which sucks since all my friends get to go home after their camps.. :( boo-hoo
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: twitch on January 04, 2011, 10:44:20 am
snhanks888 :  sorry, i know you are pissed but i am giggling at your post because i was 10min late to desk warm today.  but stopped for a bagel, and then had to wait 15min for a bus..  myk fault. 
but....when i came in i got the evil eye and asked why i was late.  i almost laughed in her face.  it's just so absurd it's comical.  i was 10min late to sit at my desk and fb/google/play games all day.  LOL!

isanghan :  can you tell some details about your hong kong trip.  i was just sitting here debating if i could afford to go there in a few weeks.  flights?  hotel?

ah, i brought a new book today called "the rape of nanking".  wow!  truly horrifying real accounts of the slaughtering of about 300,000 chinese citizens in 1937.  japan invaded and massacred them.  wow.  i recommend googling if you've never heard of it....but it's really graphic and disturbing, great history lesson though.  i think they are making a movie about it now with christian bale
 

 
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: glitterstarbeau on January 04, 2011, 10:51:26 am
I was supposed to be teaching camp, but no students showed up.  Now my coteacher thinks my vacation might get cancelled.  I had a lot of fun activities planned out and everything ready, too.  Ah, students, I'm sorry you'd rather be playing Halo than coming to English camp.
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: mteacher on January 04, 2011, 10:52:52 am
I was supposed to be teaching camp, but no students showed up.  Now my coteacher thinks my vacation might get cancelled.  I had a lot of fun activities planned out and everything ready, too.  Ah, students, I'm sorry you'd rather be playing Halo than coming to English camp.

Why do they want to cancel your vacation?!!?!?!
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: Gunpo_Erin on January 04, 2011, 10:55:03 am
Cancel vacation?  Are they serious?  They can't cancel your vacatioin.
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: glitterstarbeau on January 04, 2011, 10:56:49 am
That's something my coteacher causally threw out there when the principal dropped by and saw there were no students.
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: glitterstarbeau on January 04, 2011, 10:58:42 am
Ah, now that I think about it, there's no way.  I actually came into work.  It's not my fault no one showed up.  And I have a contract.  But they could take away that extra week they threw in.
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: hwana on January 04, 2011, 11:03:49 am
      Was late to deskwarm today b/c someone decided to back out into the street without looking and although I laid on my horn they didnt seem to notice.  BAM! Nothing too serious.
   Then get a text from my coteach saying "isnt it your working day? i dont see you here".  I text back and say "late car wreck." 
       A few minutes later I arrive at school, go into my office say "hey" to my coteach.  She doesnt reply, doesnt ask if I'm okay or what happened.  UGHH! 

Would you consider this extremely rude? I'm a little pissed right now!

I'd probably assume that she didn't quite grasp what your message meant - of course everyone here would know what it means, but I've not heard a car accident/crash be referred to as a "wreck" before so maybe that's the reason? I've found it's usually best writing things as simply as possible if you want to get your point across. Perhaps "I was in a traffic accident" might have aroused some sympathy? Or, maybe she just doesn't care.. haha

BTW were you on a scooter?
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: shelleydee on January 04, 2011, 11:10:00 am
I just finished watching the Canada/US World Junior hockey game.  Looking forward to the Canada/Russia final.

But I think I'll start planning my Indonesia/Bali trip for Lunar New Year.
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: msqueen888 on January 04, 2011, 11:12:21 am

I'd probably assume that she didn't quite grasp what your message meant - of course everyone here would know what it means, but I've not heard a car accident/crash be referred to as a "wreck" before so maybe that's the reason? I've found it's usually best writing things as simply as possible if you want to get your point across. Perhaps "I was in a traffic accident" might have aroused some sympathy? Or, maybe she just doesn't care.. haha

BTW were you on a scooter?

no in a car...and her English is pretty good.  She's married to a foreigner.  Maybe you're right about her not understanding, but I think she is just mad I was late not matter what the reason.
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: twitch on January 04, 2011, 11:12:51 am
shelleydee....what site did you watch the game on?
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: shelleydee on January 04, 2011, 11:17:35 am
TSN

Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: Awesomo on January 04, 2011, 11:23:11 am
I'll put this here: hopefully it can help some of you guys out :)

http://esloutpost.com/article/get/1167357750/Keeping%20Busy%20and%20Happy%20Over%20the%20Holidays
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: dsca0421 on January 04, 2011, 11:52:55 am
Pretty sure a couple of my students just tried to give me the runaround about having places to be during their camp session.  Really?

Just don't come...

Anyway, whoever coined up the term "deskfreezing", I salute you.
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: tfuller on January 04, 2011, 12:14:34 pm
My co-teacher doesn't get any vacation time at all. So if i were to get a lot more time off, it would probably make her go nuts because she wouldn't have anyone to talk to  ;)
Title: Re: DESKWARMING
Post by: red on January 04, 2011, 12:55:57 pm
I was supposed to be teaching camp, but no students showed up.  Now my coteacher thinks my vacation might get cancelled.  I had a lot of fun activities planned out and everything ready, too.  Ah, students, I'm sorry you'd rather be playing Halo than coming to English camp.

It isn't your fault why students didn't show up..  ???
In fact you prepared for it...
Title: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: korussian on January 08, 2011, 10:56:05 pm
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Title: Desk Warming
Post by: juliehrrs on January 27, 2011, 11:11:57 am
I was just wondering if anyone knows that actual reason why we have to desk warm? Most of us spend so much time complaining about it but does anyone know if there is a reason?
I was going to email my co-ordinator but I don't want to draw attention to myself and she starts checking up on me-I come to work but since my co-teachers and my prinicpal aren't at school I only come in at around 11ish and leave at around three. Both my co-teacher and one of my team teachers have said that I shouldn't come in at all, but I am not sure if it is worth the risk, it is literally me and the cleaner at school.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: BryceSK on January 27, 2011, 11:17:00 am
The reason is a Korean logic one. The thinking here is that our contract says we have X amount of days of leave and the rest of the time we are being paid to be at school. Hence the rest of the time must then be spent at said school...I know it's a hack. Apparently a year or two ago, it was not enforced as much, but I do stand to be corrected.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Joss on January 27, 2011, 11:26:40 am
Yeah - it's a contractual thing. We have X amount of vacation days and that's the end of it. The idea is that we would get ahead on our lesson planning or do other productive things with our time in school.
 
There are a lot of people who aren't required to go in (off the books). If your co told you that you don't need to be there, and she/he will back you up if anyone else at the school questions you about it, then don't worry about it. Last year a number of people complained to the POE that their friends didn't have to go in, so a memo was sent to all of the schools asking for stricter inforcement of the contract dates. That has seemed to lapse in a lot of cases.

If they tell you not to go in, then don't. Just don't advertize it to everyone.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: derbear86 on January 27, 2011, 11:34:26 am
It's all in the contract that you and everyone else teaching here wilfully signed. You will have have to work when you are not using the 18-20 vacation days you were given. As it was stated earlier on this thread, many of these "working days" are only around four hours. What's so hard to understand about the Korean logic here? You agreed to work these days, and now they expect you to do so. And why the complaining!? You are being paid to do nothing! Bring a book to read. Watch a movie or a t.v. show. AND get paid! Why the complaining? Good luck finding a job like that back home.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: BryceSK on January 27, 2011, 11:57:14 am
I don't think anyone's necessarily complaining here. More like speculating on the reasons for desk warming  ;)
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Adobe on January 27, 2011, 12:22:39 pm
By emailing your coordinator you will draw attention to yourself and your school. This is the type of attitude that (eventually) resulted in the 'extra' vacation/lenient enforcement of the contract to be stopped. As Joss pointed out, you are getting paid. Therefore if they choose to make you do it, find ways to make it work for you, study, plan, read up on new ideas in EFL/ESL or watch a movie/chat with loved ones.

Your complaining won't improve your situation. What it will do is ensure that anybody who comes after you gets a 'worse' deal, has increased scrutiny(read hoops and crap to jump through). Or is made to teach actual classes. Thanks to the previous NT at my school, I get no desk warming. I teach 18 classes a week (that is 18 new lessons each week) EVERY WEEK. I do more work in the vacation periods than all my normal classes and afterschool combined.

That said, another reason for the desk warming in my town/province is the Provincial office declaring that all part-time teacher (Koreans) and NTs must be present at school unless on vacation. Some of my friends have been given extra vacation (lucky buggers >:( :'(). Others have to make a brief appearance for an hour or so and still others just sit and desk warm. Thanks to the last opinionated NT at this school, I work, same students everyday (low level boys middle school) >:(

Keep doing what you are doing (going in late and leaving early) and don't tell anyone. That is the best advice I can give. If you broadcast your situation(that you're not there the whole 8hrs) it will hurt you and the other NTs in your area. THINK, please... :'( :( :-\ 3 more days till vacation. Sorry for the rant.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: eider on January 27, 2011, 12:37:24 pm
I agree with Adobe... and with the deskwarming and the new rules of the NEW VP at my school I have to sign in every morning (have it signed by ahead teacher who is in that day and on the days the VP is at school I also get it from him too).

Off the topic here...has anyone gotten their vacation days shortened due to half days that were taken during exam days which the school gave permissions for???
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: juliehrrs on January 27, 2011, 01:08:31 pm
Just to clarify I am not complaining about desk warming, I am quite aware that I would not be able to find another job where I get paid to sit around and doing nothing. I was just wondering what the reasoning is, I know that it is in the contract and I was fully aware of it when I signed. The Korean teachers who have the same contracts as us also have to be at school, this includes both of my co-teachers and neither of them are here.

I am not going to draw unnecessary to my situation at all, so everyone can relax it was just a discussion question.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: raintenshi on January 27, 2011, 01:09:52 pm
@derbear86

Yes, "working" days. Desk warming (for me) does not mean I'm working. I hate having to come to work and have no work to actual do. I hate being bored at work, whether I'm working in Korea or working back home. It seems a waste of money/time to have me show up just because I'm suppose to. Due to some things happening with me at my school (long story), I have NO winter classes!! So it's not like I can spend time preparing for it. So I've been desk warming for over a month now -_- And it gets really boring/tiring pretty fast.

My summer sounds like what you've got right now. I had 4 classes in the morning to teach every day (20 classes/week) every day unless I was on vacation, then I had the afternoons to myself.  I much rather have something like that then what I'm doing right now. Especially with this cold winter!!

If it was just a matter of "contract", I would suggest that they should put in a clause: During a vacation period (June - August or December to February) and the employee is not assigned additional classes (camps, teaching lessons, etc) by their employer at their school or another, the working day is only 4 hours. The change in working days will not cause a reduction in the employee's vacation days or a reduction in pay.  <-- Or something like this. That way, the schools make sure we're not leaving the country (or something else) and we're given time to prepare our lessons in advance *cough cough*, but at the same time, we're not forced to sit at our desks for long periods of time with nothing to do.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Halcyon on January 27, 2011, 01:13:44 pm
If we're talking about actual reasons, which I think is what the OP was trying to get at, I don't think it's enough to say that it's because it's contractual.  It should be but here in Korea it's always been a 'contractual thing' and, as it's been mentioned, schools have only just recently begun to strictly enforce the provisions set out in the contract.  Before, most schools applied the text of our contracts as they saw fit.  More often than not, that worked out in our favor.  If there were no obligatory camps to attend then Native English teachers weren't expected to be at school.

A few years ago, a kind of great debate...or rather a more refined debate began in Korea about the English education system here and along with it the role we NETs/NESTs were to play.  As administrators and officials looked more closely at how we were being "used" it became apparent that, simply put, we weren't being "used" enough (maybe utilized is a better word but I like used^) or at least the perception that we were wasn't pervasive enough.

Along with administrators and other officials, some teachers and parents began to voice their concerns/complaints about how effective we truly were from a "cost vs results" perspective, about our work ethic, and in some circles, about our character (due to several foreigner-related incidents over the past several years)

And so, enter desk warming.  I feel confident in saying that it's because of two things.  First, contractually we are obligated to work during the school's vacation until our allotted vacation time kicks in.  Second, and I think the weightier of the two, desk warming is a way to appease the dissenters who think we're just overpriced ornaments.  I mean, if we're at school, we must be working^.

(I also think that there was some hope, if only a sliver, that we would actually use that time to prepare for the next semester's classes or to improve our teaching skills...I'm fairly certain it was only a sliver.)

Even with the stricter guidelines, I'm finding that most schools are still taking it upon themselves to decide what we should be doing before our actual vacation times starts.  I desk warmed a bit during my first week and then had four hours of class a day for three weeks- an advanced class of 10 students for two hours and a teacher workshop for two.

A friend of mine will be finishing his fifth week of camp tomorrow!  If you had given him the choice, I'm pretty sure he would have chosen to desk warm instead ;)
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: juliehrrs on January 27, 2011, 01:19:01 pm
@Halcyon that is exactly the kind of answer I was looking for, thank you.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Cy&Leon on January 27, 2011, 01:30:46 pm
-Halcyon
"Second, and I think the weightier of the two, desk warming is a way to appease the dissenters who think we're just overpriced ornaments. " I agree to this statement from many viewpoints. Just put yourself in their shoes. Native teachers don't work on Saturdays. Koreans if they think it's not fair-they WILL complain. So, to keep everyone happy and our jobs, we 'work' on the break.

I know one native teacher that complained nothing to do during this 'deskwarming' and he was given 1 more week of camp for a total of 3 for elementary school.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: globetrotter.2011 on January 27, 2011, 02:00:26 pm
I really dislike listening to native teachers complaining in Korea.

I was unemployed for a whole year in my home country before I came here. It was a really rough time for me but now I' m so grateful to have a job whether it be desk warming or not.

I knew exactly what was in my contract before I came here and I was more than happy to sign it, I didn't need any extra clauses!

I never complain about desk warming. For me it is a small bonus of free time from teaching classes, something I never anticipated before coming here and I have no problem filling it with things to do at my school.

I have always maintained the attitude here in Korea that i'm at all times a guest here. It is not my place to tell the korean people how to run their show. They have given me the opportunity to work here.

Life is all about a positive mental attitude, be positive and good things will happen.  :D

If you are negative and complain, well.....I think the last poster summed it up best
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I know one native teacher that complained nothing to do during this 'deskwarming' and he was given 1 more week of camp for a total of 3 for elementary school.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: CultureShock on January 27, 2011, 02:20:21 pm
To all the people saying "why are you complaining" "good luck finding another job like this" "blah blah blah".
 :o

Make sure you fully read someone's topic. She wasn't complaining, and she didn't say she was having a bad time with it. This is what she did say
I was just wondering if anyone knows that actual reason why we have to desk warm? Most of us spend so much time complaining about it but does anyone know if there is a reason?

Just a question. There is no tone, or context that should make you think otherwise. In other words --calm down.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: ISangHae on January 27, 2011, 02:43:11 pm
I disagree with globetrotter.

Came into public schools after hearing how fantastic they were compared to the hagwon I worked at. This coming from a former co-worker, so he gave me his rundown:

**More time off**

I was severely disappointed upon learning that when no one else is in school, I have to stay. It is lame, bigoted, and silly. The principal doesn't even come in on regular school days- the K teachers come in once a month. I could sneak out, but I respect the rules. I babysit the kids (camp), they go, I eat lunch and return to the funny farm that is my school.

All I can say is: if you had it before, and lost it- there is plenty of reason to vent.
Even if you didn't have it before, but know of others that (do/did) and know that it is possible, there is still reason to vent.

The powers that be could give us something: like teacher training (for those staying) or paid camps (like there were back in the day) but if you'd rather sit and not stand up for yourself, that's your problem.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: rhafrika on January 27, 2011, 02:55:26 pm
I'm not complaining per se but it doesn't make sense for us to come to school when we have nothing to do. In other countries teachers and professors don't go to school during breaks unless they have work to do and they still get paid. I remember telling my teachers this and they even thought it was a good idea. But still compared to non-teaching jobs getting paid to do absolutely nothing is not all that bad really. There's lots you can do while you're sitting--I've been doing lots of reading, making travel plans, working on applications for next year, studying Korean. My desk warming time is almost up but I was even considering bringing in my art supplies and doing some painting. It's not that bad folks! It is annoying that some teachers don't have to go in and others do but oh well! Maybe someday Korea will figure out that it doesn't make sense at all to have us come to school when there is no work for us to do. I think we could be investing more in the Korean economy if we weren't here sitting around because we could be spending our money doing stuff in Korea! haha!
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: ranteab on January 27, 2011, 02:56:11 pm
Initially, I was also confused as to why I had to remain at school after I had finished my classes during winter camp (which is @ round 12:30), when everyone else had  already left.  Now, I actually realise that this time actually stands me in good stead as I get so much done. I go on websites like these and gather materials for my classes; I research holiday destinations; etc.

This time is the perfect opportunity for one to do all the research with respect to teaching, working and living in Korea without any distractions or kids or teachers breathing down your neck. (Hey, the more info, the better! There's always something you are unsure of.) Yesterday for example, I researched all the things which our medical insurance covers and that which it does not. I definitely learnt a few things which I had not known before.

Had I left early and  simply gone home, I would definitely not have been able to do as much. I would've convinced myself that I was going to spend the time working on lesson plans, but I would only have been kidding myself!

I feel you on the 'desk warming', but you can choose to use it constructively and make it work for you and at the same time get paid for broadening your knowledge base...
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: derbear86 on January 27, 2011, 03:19:27 pm
To culture shock,

And anyone else saying, "Make sure you fully read someone's topic..." "stay calm" blah blah blah.

Make sure you read the entire thread. I was not targeting the original poster with my comment, I was targeting the complainers. Read this particular thread and you will find at least a couple of them. Read any thread on Waygook for that matter and you're bound to find many. Deskwarming seems to be a very popular target for the complainers on this website and this is something I can't fathom. Would you rather be having in-class hours and camps!? You'd probably be on here complaing about that then! Use this deskwarming time wisely. If you don't like coming to work with no work to do, find some. Surely your lesson plans aren't perfect. Refine them. Perfect them. Clean out your desk. Learn Korean. That ought to keep you busy. There is always work to be done.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: treesy on January 27, 2011, 06:54:38 pm
My school at the last minute said I could stay at home, other than teaching after school class Tues and Thurs for 2 hour last week and this week. They gave me two choices, come to work or do a "special project" at home. This project is making PPTs about cultural lessons to add to regular classes. I am also doing the lesson plans for the last two weeks of the semester. There is no running water on all the floors except the first so it would be annoying to come in. I am not sure if they are going to check my work or not that I did at home or if it was just an excuse to let me stay home.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: elspeth on January 27, 2011, 07:04:12 pm
It's all in the contract that you and everyone else teaching here wilfully signed. You will have have to work when you are not using the 18-20 vacation days you were given. As it was stated earlier on this thread, many of these "working days" are only around four hours. What's so hard to understand about the Korean logic here? You agreed to work these days, and now they expect you to do so. And why the complaining!? You are being paid to do nothing! Bring a book to read. Watch a movies or a t.v. show. AND get paid! Why the complaining? Good luck finding a job like that back home.
You need to calm down. Most of us sit in a freezing cold office for 8 hours with nothing to do. There are so many books you can read. There is only so much facebooking to be done. No one is arguing about doing their job, just stating the OBVIOUS stupidity of forcing us to sit at a desk for no reason.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: derbear86 on January 27, 2011, 07:17:45 pm
And what makes you think I'm uncalm? I didn't realize you could tell so much about a persons emotional state by reading a post on waygook. With regards to your comment, just keep your word. You signed the contract. Deal with it or go home.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: DMZ on January 27, 2011, 07:27:24 pm
Shall we agree to disagree?
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: negacoca on January 27, 2011, 07:58:04 pm
It is obviously true that we are more productive when we come into school.  There's a psychological difference between being at work and being at home.  During the regular school year, I usually stay a couple of hours past 4:30 for that reason.  So, I can understand why they feel they are utilizing us better when we deskwarm.  However, eight hours seems excessive with no classes.  I like raintenshi's idea of having a four hour working day during school vacations, if there are no afternoon classes to teach.  Teachers that take teaching seriously would use that time to improve their teaching, but still get a partial vacation.  Personally, I think I would spend a greater fraction of my time doing activities that would help my teaching in an empty four hour slot than an empty eight hour slot.

I don't actually have to deskwarm.  I teach four classes each morning, then I am free to leave in the afternoon.  I can choose how long to stay at school, depending on how much needs to be done for the next day's camps, my other plans for the day, and the temperature of the classroom.  Sometimes I stay till 2:00 or 3:00, and sometimes I leave right at noon (especially on those really cold days).  This makes me feel like a respected teaching professional.  I imagine it must feel patronizing to have to sign in somewhere at 8:30, be forced to spend all day at school, and then have to check out with someone at 4:30.  That seems more upsetting than deskwarming in and of itself.  But, I wouldn't mind coming in to work for half a day without classes to teach.

The temperature of the classrooms during vacation is a problem.  At home, I don't have to wear my hat, gloves, and scarf.  It is much more comfortable to work on lesson plans at home, despite the psychological disadvantages.

I think most native teachers should not complain about their overall situation (I'm sure there are exceptions).  This is generally a great job, and most of us have life pretty good.  But, that does not mean we cannot discuss how things could be better.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Brian on January 27, 2011, 08:43:53 pm
I understand the OP and others weren't complaining.  There are reasons some NSETs are justified in complaining about deskwarming, and there are things that make NSETs look really petty and out-of-touch with reality for doing so.  I like the idea of a half-day workday mentioned by others here: no reason teachers shouldn't, um, do their jobs and follow their contracts, but also no reason to sit alone in a freezing school.

When deskwarming was applied more consistently across the country last year (http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2009/12/deskwarming-coming-to-jeollanam-do.html), including in Jeollanam-do, the reason generally given was that some NSETs were complaining about having to deskwarm while teachers at other schools didn't have to.  The longer vacation times were always a big selling point of public school jobs especially in places outside of Seoul, but while some schools do still offer this time off, it's quickly disappeared over the past year. 

Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Morticae on January 27, 2011, 10:02:43 pm
It is obviously true that we are more productive when we come into school.  There's a psychological difference between being at work and being at home.

Personally, I have never created 1 complete worksheet/powerpoint while at school. I do everything while I'm at home. When I'm at school, I just can't focus! It's the complete opposite of what you describe. Not to mention I just don't want to use the Korean ppt/terrible computers. During the regular school year my teaching hours are way too erratic to do any work. I need a chunk of time to sit down and work. One 45 minute block just isn't enough to get me seriously started.

I'm on vacation now, but I was given no option of half days. Even during the two weeks of my winter camp I did. 8:30-4:30, end of story. Oh well.

If they want me to work, they are better off sending me home. If they want me to come in and sit around and do nothing, I'll do that too. I've never complained to them.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: eveliens on January 28, 2011, 12:15:20 am
It is obviously true that we are more productive when we come into school.  There's a psychological difference between being at work and being at home.

Personally, I have never created 1 complete worksheet/powerpoint while at school. I do everything while I'm at home. When I'm at school, I just can't focus! It's the complete opposite of what you describe. Not to mention I just don't want to use the Korean ppt/terrible computers. During the regular school year my teaching hours are way too erratic to do any work. I need a chunk of time to sit down and work. One 45 minute block just isn't enough to get me seriously started.

I'm on vacation now, but I was given no option of half days. Even during the two weeks of my winter camp I did. 8:30-4:30, end of story. Oh well.

If they want me to work, they are better off sending me home. If they want me to come in and sit around and do nothing, I'll do that too. I've never complained to them.

I also do better at home where I can put on the music and focus without freezing my fingers off and having a computer that actually works! At school there's at least one part time Korean teacher puttering around me-- it's very unnerving and distracting to be climbed over repeatedly. I was relieved when I was told I could go home to work after teaching class in the morning.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: LemonWater on January 28, 2011, 03:04:42 am
I agree with the above posts, I am more productive at home, at least when it comes to lesson planning. My computers at school are all in Korean, and I can put together a powerpoint twice as fast at home. Plus the distraction factor. .. I do like to sit at a computer and dedicate a few hours, uninterrupted to making a lesson. . .

But for desk warming. . . Nothing is expected of me. It does force me to get out of bed and do something during the day. . . during these cold months,av I would probably just sit at home and hibernate. So maybe I am more productive at school, even if I am watching movies or planning my vacation.

And I have heard the same thing as others . . . in years past, some people got the entire break off, some had to come in and do winter camps. The ones that had to come in complained too much, so they said everyone has to come in, regardless if you are teaching or not. . . so complaining just means more work for everyone.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Arsalan Lavang on January 28, 2011, 04:25:30 am
When I was teaching I in S.Korea, I had the same issue.  Although, I think my rebellious inclination towards authority without question made me just ignore all of it.  I had always thought that there was no logic behind it other than forcing one to conform, while they had the freedom to bend the rules in terms of their contractual obligations. 

I don't recommend doing what I did however, it seemed to pan out ok in my case, but it can make life tedious in some situations.  You need to determine the attitude of your principal, vice-principal, and co-teachers.

Regarding the psychological differences in work environments, I would completely agree with it.  However, depending on your school and "colleagues", I would think some people do benefit from the time spent at school doing research and prep.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: roundrug on January 28, 2011, 06:32:55 am
Hehe, deskwarming.  I only have 2 days of it this year (next week) because of using so much vacation time.  And, I teach 3 camp classes per day--9:30-11:00, 1:00-2:30, and 3:00 to 4:30.  Keeps me occupied all day and I have plenty of time to clean up and prep between classes.  Oh and btw I get paid overtime for doing 10 extra hours of teaching per week.  One of my co-teachers, who is on a temporary contract, also has to be here, and she is totally deskwarming.  All she does is watch movies all day, with 2 electric space heaters on at full blast.  What a waste of energy, in my opinion. 

I do think deskwarming is a kind of luxury--though I love teaching, it's also stressful for me--my 3rd year teaching, and I still get nervous before every class.  It would be nice to not have to teach.  But this school is freezing cold.  And, I am moving onto a uni job in March.  I was so shocked by the contract.  What?  I only teach 12 hours per week?  But, what time do I have to arrive at school?  Oh, just to teach my classes?  Oh, and I need to have office hours?  When are those?  Oh, whenever I want them to be?  And vacations?  Oh, all during school breaks, except I can't be out of the country the last week of vacation?  So like....December... to...March?  Oh My Gosh.  I don't know what to even DO with myself during this time.  When you look at this...it does seem pretty stupid to have to come in a deskwarm in the elementaries.  Though...I wonder if the uni will pay me during breaks....?  Hrrrrmmmm....
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: STRETCHARMSTRONG on January 28, 2011, 10:36:00 am
Desk warming is up to the VP.  I had a cool one at my last school and he would just make me come in for 10 minutes a day and chat with my co-teach.  I guess it was a way to make sure i wasnt leaving korea.  now i have a power hungry vp that doesnt like waygooks and he goes out of his way to make sure i drive two hours a day and sit for 8.  its really a waste of power.  i am the only one in this big office all day.  i do get to crank the heater and plug my floor heater up as well.  i never feel inspired to do lesson planning during my desk warming time.  i think maybe its because i feel like i am going crazy from sitting alone all day long for weeks.  i would love to see all the waygooks protest desk warming.  sign something promising you will desk warm at your house or a coffee cafe or the beach or somewhere in korea. be nice to your waygooks, they are along way from family, their food, their beer, their culture.  we should make some tee-shirts that reads desk warming no. 
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: juliehrrs on January 28, 2011, 12:33:47 pm
I think another reason for desk warming is to keep the waygooks out of trouble, my co-teacher told me once that the reason we have to stay at school when the kids have half days or whatever is so that we don't go run amok in the streets of Korea. Now I can here the uproar in reponse to this but I don't think it is too far off. Since I have been here I have met so many foreigners who have such a complete disregard for the Korean culture and have run amok on their time off. As someone has already said on this thread we are guests here and we should act like guests on our time off.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Morticae on January 28, 2011, 01:38:23 pm
I think another reason for desk warming is to keep the waygooks out of trouble, my co-teacher told me once that the reason we have to stay at school when the kids have half days or whatever is so that we don't go run amok in the streets of Korea. Now I can here the uproar in reponse to this but I don't think it is too far off. Since I have been here I have met so many foreigners who have such a complete disregard for the Korean culture and have run amok on their time off. As someone has already said on this thread we are guests here and we should act like guests on our time off.

If my co-teacher had said that I would tell him/her to keep their discriminatory remarks to themselves.

This isn't a concentration camp. We're not really guests, we are employees, foreign residents. Somebody passing through on a week long vacation is a guest. You don't expect anything in return of a guest, and you extend hospitality to them.

Minority groups will always be discriminated against, that seems to be fact enough. But I hate when it's done from within the group itself. No, not all "waygooks" are irresponsible and here to "run amok" (What does that even include?). No two "waygooks" are created equal.

I've been spending my paid vacation time teaching students from my house, this teaching amounts to a little over 15 hours a week. For free. The school administration didn't ask me to do it, I did it because I wanted to. Of course, they are thrilled about it. I know, I know, how irresponsible of me. We're all the same I guess. Low life scum here to destroy the divine-like quality of Korean society, so a leash must be kept around us.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: juliehrrs on January 28, 2011, 01:58:48 pm
It was not the opinion of my co-teacher she was telling me that that was what she had heard.
I was not implying that all foreigners run amok at all, I was simply suggesting that perhaps it is because of one or two people who have taken advantage of the situation here or acted poorly that we are required to desk warm, no need to get heated. And by run amok I mean, getting drunk and vandalising property, speaking badly to Korean people because they don't understand English and that sort of behaviour.
I commend you for your extra work, we need more teachers like you.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: BryceSK on January 28, 2011, 02:58:53 pm
I agree with Morticae. It's not right to paint everyone with the same brush and secondly if you're going to make sweeping statements about "so many foreigners" being hooligans then stick to it. The moment Morticae commented, your tune changed to that of "one or two people".

Look, we are all here as ambassadors whether we want to be or not,  but it does not mean that we must live like monks and nuns constantly walking on egg shells with regards to everything Korean. It goes without saying that we must respect their culture, they have afforded us a fantastic opportunity and I am truly grateful for it. Yet it's important to remember that respect is a two-way street regardless of culture / race / religion etc.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Halcyon on January 28, 2011, 04:01:33 pm
To whoever said that the reason we have to desk warm is so that "we don't run amok", I'd say that is complete tomfoolery.  I know it wasn't the opinion of you or your co-teacher juliehrrs but the fact the she would even repeat it as a plausible fact is silly.  I hope you didn't give it any credence yourself.  Why would we be given any vacation time at all if that were even remotely true?  What amokness can be done during January that can't be done during February? Or vice-versa?  And what about time off during summer vacation, Chuseok, Lunar New Year, and every weekend throughout the year that we don't have to work. :-\

Plus, it seems that the majority of teachers here use their vacation time to travel to neighboring countries or to return home to visit with their families.  Whatever 'amok is being run' by NESTs here is more than likely being done outside of Korea if even at all.

I suppose her hearsay didn't really need a response but I personally have a hard time letting baseless, unfounded reasons/opinions stand as fact.  And by no means is that an ad hominem to you juliehrrs~
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: juliehrrs on January 28, 2011, 04:35:38 pm
No my co-teacher said it as part of a discussion, she didn't believe it or agree with it herself. We both had a little giggle to it, and pretty much said what halcyon wrote about the other holidays and even weekends.
@BryceSK: I apologies for my sweeping statement, straight after I posted that I realised that what I said was wrong (brain freeze?). I don't think of all foreigners badly at all. What I was trying to get at is that maybe there was an incident with bad behaviour that lead to desk warming? I don't know, I am asking?
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: STRETCHARMSTRONG on January 28, 2011, 04:58:08 pm
there was a teacher at my school who was sneaking off during his desk warming and the VP saw him and started yelling.  The dude jumped a fence and kept running.  when i heard about this i was thought right on man, but that was when i had a great VP.  I heard this angered the little fella and he went to raising hell with the higher ups. Desk warming can get to ya.  mentally and physically. there has to be another solution.   maybe they could create the buddy system.  desk warm with a friend or lover. ;D
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Davey on January 28, 2011, 06:43:03 pm
It's all in the contract that you and everyone else teaching here wilfully signed. You will have have to work when you are not using the 18-20 vacation days you were given. As it was stated earlier on this thread, many of these "working days" are only around four hours. What's so hard to understand about the Korean logic here? You agreed to work these days, and now they expect you to do so. And why the complaining!? You are being paid to do nothing! Bring a book to read. Watch a movies or a t.v. show. AND get paid! Why the complaining? Good luck finding a job like that back home.
You need to calm down. Most of us sit in a freezing cold office for 8 hours with nothing to do. There are so many books you can read. There is only so much facebooking to be done. No one is arguing about doing their job, just stating the OBVIOUS stupidity of forcing us to sit at a desk for no reason.

if it's any consolation, Korean teachers under contract like us have to desk warm, as well. For example, i co-teach with a Korean-contract teacher for the 3rd grade and she has to desk warm when she's not on vacation or doesn't have camp. furthermore, she has to go to school on Saturdays even though she has no classes and nothing to do but lesson plan (but, like us, there's only so much lesson planning you can do). she agrees it's preposterous, but i guess these are simply the terms for contract teachers, Korean or not.

KTs who are subject teachers (PE, ethics, etc.) also have to come in saturdays despite having no classes.

it's stupid, but it's certainly not an issue exclusive to foreigners.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: confusedsafferinkorea on January 29, 2011, 05:45:44 am
I must admit I am disturbed by the attitude of some of the people writing here. To make a comment like, if you don't like it then go home, is inappropriate. We all have a right to express our opinions without inviting that kind of response.  Just because you don't agree with someone does not give you the right to be offensive.

I would like to comment about this 'deskwarming' thing. I was, before coming to Korea, a Deputy Principal of a High School in my own country and one of the things I learnt very quickly that the most important people in any school (students aside) are your teachers.  The way you treat your teachers comes back to you tenfold, if you treat them with respect and encourage them in whatever way you can (giving them personal attention, little perks etc) you reap the rewards in many ways.

If you, however, treat them like objects just there to teach and little else, you too reap the rewards, but I can assure you that it is not the kind of rewards you would like.

I am a firm believer in doing things that have a good reason supporting it and only that. If you make a teacher do something for the sake of doing it and for no other reason, you soon build up resentment and you will not get the maximum benefit from that teacher.

I do realise that many Principals or Vice Principals, make us deskwarm to appease the 'gods', but many have made a decision that they don't care about the 'gods', they care about their teachers and for the most, if you scrutinise their schools, then you will find a well-run school with a happy staff and I am not just talking about a foreign teacher being happy, but all teachers at that school.

Deskwarming is a mindless thing and serves no purpose whatsoever other than to appease the 'gods' and I salute the Principals and Vice-Principals who have the guts to stand up to the 'gods' and say, ' I don't care what you think, my teachers are the most important to me'  Nothing works better to motivate anyone than little things that make life just that much easier and more pleasant.  If a Principal allows you extra time off, not in your contract, NO ONE is negatively affected, in fact the outcome could be quite the opposite in my experience.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: cepctheworld on February 14, 2011, 10:21:53 am
I would like to state that we all do not read the complete threads because we are waygookin teachers and we are used to being lazy.  ;D  None of us would ever have cake jobs like this (and mine is one of the more challenging public school jobs in my small city) back at home unless we were the offspring of someone important.  ;)

I think the desk warming balances all of the other things I get excused from that make Korean teachers much more stressed out than we are.  Things like meetings, planning activities like talent shows, sitting on boards, filling out grade cards and dealing with parents.   

please laugh at this... it's some sarcasm (and truth) to lighten the mood here guys.   
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: joybot0 on February 14, 2011, 10:46:43 am
Well enjoy it while it lasts! Their starting to find things for us to do. Plus deskwarming and doing nothing but watching movies makes foreign teachers look bad. I'm sure there is utterances amongst coteachers of how lazy we are...due to this deskwarming we do.

Last year I skipped desk warming and walked up and down the stairs around the school for exercise. Stairwarming!
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: sweet_potato on February 14, 2011, 10:59:11 am
Deskwarming are good for using those sick-days..... no one's gonna give you a hard time for it because you're not missing any classes. It's also a good time to go see a dentist or any other things you've wanted to do for a while.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Janitor on February 14, 2011, 11:10:37 am
as for the deskwarming thing, walk into any office and you will see a lot of Koreans doing the same. When I was meeting a lot of the city hall people, I would usually have to wake them up after lunch when I arrived.

It is a little different at schools because teachers have classes along with other duties but I have also found that most of my teachers are not the greatest when it comes to time management. Thus,  things are put off until the last minute, kind of like when we were in University and left all those assignments to the last minute and then ran around complaining about having no time. A lot of my co-teachers are like that at my school any way. Time-saving things like dropbox/ data syncing and weekly plans are difficult to explain to my teachers.

When I was deskwarming I had my lessons finished and organized and showed them to my co-teacher on her way out the door. Thus she felt bad but went home just the same. I shot myself in the foot but at least they knew my work was done.

I guess the reason mostly is that the system is working off something built from a hogwan structure. It has now greatly changed but there is still that feeling of "If we pay them X amount they must work x amount of hours" However, they fail to calculate the amount of time we spend in class and holiday time. Hogwans were simple because they are open even when schools are closed. However, most are closed on Saturdays. When EPIK started up again they followed the same structure to be competitive in order to get teachers, but with a few changes to the contracts. These days it is completely different to what a hogwan contract is but after working for 4 years in a few hogwans I can see where they have started from.

In my years here I have found that there is no logical basis for the holiday time in public school other than an arbitrary amount that sounds great on paper. The camps are away of optimizing down time but deskwarming just came about because there is a gray area between school holidays, camps and waygook holidays.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: jchoe on February 14, 2011, 01:32:08 pm
This is not to answer the original question, but after reading this, I wonder… why are people so thrown off by being at school with no students? Legit teachers around the world have days where no students come and there are no particular tasks assigned, but we call those days “teacher WORK days”. Desk-Warming seems to me to be a term, which when used to describe one’s behavior, speaks volumes about his/her work ethic. (I believe with confidence that the teacher who taught you to read came in many summer days and probably some late nights and weekends)

Do you care deeply about your students as learners and just as people? It’s deeply rewarding to put someone’s needs above your own comfort. Here are some ideas of what you could do if you can’t think of any: plan ways to encourage your students, develop new games and activities, create displays for your visual learners, think of new rules and procedures to implement that will give all students the best chance to learn in a place where they feel secure…
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: confusedsafferinkorea on February 14, 2011, 01:41:03 pm
jchoe..... people object because it is a mindless thing and it is done for the sake of doing it, for no other reason. When it comes to people management, doing something for the sake of doing it, is the worst motivator. If you read my previous post some time back you can see where I am coming from on this issue.

People management skill is the thing most lacking in Education circles throughout the world. All people in management positions in Education should be trained in this skill, but they are not, they are just teachers that are promoted to higher positions and lack the training. Teachers are your most important resource in a school and making concessions on things like desk-warming (for Korean and Native teachers) only has a positive spin off, believe me.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: rich on February 14, 2011, 01:53:08 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk2xaeXnxlM

everyone should just relax, spring is around the corner. just watch this vid and enjoy some of your valentine's chocolate..
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: asabranca on February 14, 2011, 01:56:31 pm
"Teachers are your most important resource in a school and making concessions on things like desk-warming (for Korean and Native teachers) only has a positive spin off, believe me."

@rlong - I completely agree with you, Ralph.  I think that if some concessions were made in relatively inconsequential things like desk-warming, it would probably increase morale ten-fold and result in an even higher productivity, energy level, and willingness to cooperate on more substantial issues (like voluntarily staying late a few nights before a big test to tutor individual students) despite the temporary decrease in working hours. 
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: jchoe on February 15, 2011, 08:39:40 am
RLong, after re-reading your two posts, I think I better understand your position. Many native teachers I have discussed this with have not given appropriate/adequate reasons for their complaints. Although I appreciate the time for collaboration and planning at my school, I now understand that you do not think it is the intended purpose by some principals. Thank you for explaining your legit reason for disapproving of this practice.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: giselle on February 15, 2011, 08:50:32 am
Well, I have mixed emotions about this.  I must agree that it IS annoying, especially when I hear every day that my husband has been sent home after 1 hour in the teachers' room.  And I would be at least somewhat inclined to believe it was for a purpose, IF I had been given next year's textbooks, and IF I had been told what my actual job is going to be!  So far, the powers that be have changed my mission from teaching any lessons/activities that my heart desires, to sticking to the textbook, and back again. Classes start in 2 weeks, & I still don't know.  So, it's impossible for me to do any real work during this time, such as writing lesson plans, designing the class schedule for the year,etc.  Korean culture just loves to work it's people harder, not smarter. Come on, people, I've known that little proverb since I was 10 years old!

But, I also must say that I definitely appreciate the down time to think about the next round at a leisurely pace, and not cramming my work that's supposed to be creative into a short, interrupted time frame. 
I consider it a way to ease myself back into the daily grind, so I can actually be  a decent person, if not a well-prepared teacher. So, here's to desk warming, cause I'm one of the ones who just can't get any work done at home! 
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: kawaiikitty on February 15, 2011, 09:40:00 am
Hey, if you're looking for something to do...

http://sherlock-holmes.classic-literature.co.uk/the-five-orange-pips/
Read some short stories :D
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: ramkyles on February 15, 2011, 09:51:14 am
MY reason for deskwarming just got transfered to another school. I didn't teach with her, but it sure was a joy sitting next to her doing nothing but daydreaming about our eventual Korean wedding...

...deskwarming just got a whole lot colder.. :'(
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: valium kilmer on February 15, 2011, 09:55:50 am
I do find much of the reasoning arbitrary - and there is a certain level of 'you SHOULD be doing something like this amount of facetime.'

However, I've been lucky with my school - so that in winter and summer I've had something like 6 weeks holiday at a time - perhaps with it being slightly broken up with an English camp in the middle/a few days desk warming.  However, this is Korea - so I never actually know when I'm on holiday or when I'm deskwarming until the day before.

Though I tend to value the deskwarming days as it means I'm out of the house and active, and I can get through a fair bit of Korean study - that otherwise tends to get put off and off...
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: chadteacher on February 15, 2011, 10:16:07 am
Today I actually asked one of the teachers if she needed my help with anything.  She said no, but at least I gave it a shot to volunteer my time instead of, well...doing this.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: dwebsterlfc on February 15, 2011, 10:22:04 am
I don't know why everybody gets so mardy about desk warming. They could write it in to our contracts that we have to to loads of extra hours of one on one teaching with students etc but all we have to do is sit and do nothing.

It's not hard to do something productive.

I'm bad for this as well but I bet there's so many people complaining about lesson planning that don't have more tan 3 lesson plans ready for next term.

I'm trying to learn spanish during my winter desk warming and it's killing loads of time.

The people I do feel for are the people that get told they are not allowed to play games or watch movies etc. The only reason their co-teachers would stop them doing that is because they are jealous of the spare time afforded to us, and they're stopping people killing their time by having fun out of pure bitterness.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: dwebsterlfc on February 15, 2011, 10:23:34 am
P.S I feel sorry for the people that have to sit in the cold as well lol.... unnecessary.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: derbear86 on February 15, 2011, 10:29:04 am
Legit teachers around the world have days where no students come and there are no particular tasks assigned, but we call those days “teacher WORK days”. Desk-Warming seems to me to be a term, which when used to describe one’s behavior, speaks volumes about his/her work ethic...Do you care deeply about your students as learners and just as people? It’s deeply rewarding to put someone’s needs above your own comfort. Here are some ideas of what you could do if you can’t think of any: plan ways to encourage your students, develop new games and activities, create displays for your visual learners, think of new rules and procedures to implement that will give all students the best chance to learn in a place where they feel secure…

Well said jchoe. It's not desk-warming if you're being constructive and working on something. I am currently making a new PowerPoint game that I know my students will love. And honestly, I enjoy doing it. It's challenging and time-consuming to get everything in the game working correctly and looking tip-top. But it's 100% worth it when I see the results with my students. When I work hard on my lessons or games and do my best to make them fun AND EDUCATIONAL, my students are genuinely interested in the lesson. Probably because they forget they're even learning.

In addition, the busier you are, the faster your day goes by. So why not buckle down and do some work? Before you know it it'll be quitting time.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Wretchard on February 15, 2011, 10:30:54 am
I'm bad for this as well but I bet there's so many people complaining about lesson planning that don't have more tan 3 lesson plans ready for next term.

I don't do the desk warming gig. I use my vacation days during the breaks (but come in Mon and Wed for afterschool classes thus using less vacation days than most... Should have 6-7 left for summer!).

If I did desk warm, sure I would make a lesson plan IF I knew what grades I was teaching... or even knew what books I would be using. At the moment don't know either. Sitting in my 'office' with the other Korean subject teachers  watching them do the same thing as me... Nothing!
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: DevilMogun on February 15, 2011, 10:38:24 am
@ eider 
Off the topic here...has anyone gotten their vacation days shortened due to half days that were taken during exam days which the school gave permissions for???

Yes,  my previous Principal sprung that one on me last year when I gave the dates I wanted to take my holidays.  He was a mean piece of work and seemed to be willing to do anything within his power to make my life just that little bit harder here.  Fortunately he left last March.  The worst of it was that I had no redress other than to complain to my co-teacher, who advised me to 'call in sick' for the same days.

Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: isanghan on February 15, 2011, 10:46:27 am
What bothers me about deskwarming is when it's truly unecessary. In my case, as my 2011/2012 contract was suddenly voided by my school, I find it unecessary. In these two weeks, I have to clean and pack up my apartment, find and move into a new apartment, and find some time in which to complete the orientation/training for the new job I secured. However, I'm expected to sit at my desk from 08:40 to 16:40, with nothing productive to do in that time.

That said, if I were staying here for another year (as I had previously counted on), I would welcome the time to organize my lesson plans, and to create/improve upon other lessons.

There should be some sort of middle ground here, between (what seems to be the currently accepted notion of) staying in the office/classroom for the full eight hours with no clearly defined reason and (the other option some schools seem to be doing) giving teachers an extra two weeks of vacation. I wouldn't mind coming in for some half-days, if given the option.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: derbear86 on February 15, 2011, 10:52:32 am
This is for those asking, "how should I work on my lessons when I don't know what I'll be teaching next semester!?" There are ways around this dilemma. I have on numerous occasions recycled old materials into new ones. These old materials have needed to be improved and adapted first however, so why not start by going back and improving your old lessons and activities? Surely they’re not perfect!
Also, regardless of the new students and textbooks arriving, you can still be sure of some vocabulary and grammatical points that will most certainly be covered. Make some activities about these.
In addition, if you make a game or activity template, it does not matter what you will be teaching in the future! So when the time comes that you do know what you must teach, preparing the game will be as simple as filling in the blanks. In under an hour you will have a cool and fun activity ready to go.
Prepare for what will come!
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: ilovehaters on February 15, 2011, 11:02:55 am
to Lprice

dude you complain too much man , use the time wisely ,
find something to do
we all got brains.
if you don't like it here than GO BACK . lol
don't forget we all work for THEM , we don't own the school ,
they hired us so even if it sux we have to be humble to them.

i hear so many whinging like ' oh its in korean ' ' i don't understand korean culture'
'they can't speak english '

well than try hard to understand this culture , are you really trying to get along with the  koreans ?
anyways
i reckon complaing should stop and be humble with what we have.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: confusedsafferinkorea on February 15, 2011, 11:11:54 am
ilovehaters........ I think you have missed the spirit of this thread. Take time to read all the responses.  It is unnecessary to make a comment like 'if you don't like that, then go back'. Many people have made many valid comments about the mindless practice of desk warming.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: jehall on February 15, 2011, 11:19:48 am
Yeah, I don't think desk warming is worth fighting your bosses over, but I understand why people question it.

And ilovehaters... I do agree that some people seem to complain over little things, but saying you have to be humble to someone who hired you even if it sux is a crazy statement. That justifies letting your boss do anything to you. For the record, I have no problems with desk warming. As long as I get my 20 days of vacation in the contract, what's the big deal.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Wretchard on February 15, 2011, 11:34:35 am
I guess we could spend a few minutes to edit ilovehaters post  ;)
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: confusedsafferinkorea on February 15, 2011, 11:41:00 am
Ha ha Wretchard...... good one !!!!  :) :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: joseph921 on February 15, 2011, 11:54:53 am
there is some truth behind what he said though.  I'm sure most of us NET's are highly professional, respectful ppl, but let's be honest here, compared to the eastern culture, most of us do complain quite a lot, give our schools difficulty, and some of us just give a bad name/reputation to the rest of us.

When I talked to my CT today, I asked him about the situation going on with the GEPIK NET cuts.  He told me the top reason was "money" obviously, bu the second highest reason was that many NETs throughout korea (and over the many years), have built a very bad reputation for the rest of us.  He said, those that go laid off or contracts not renewed were due to unprofessionalism, and lack of educational helpfulness in the class.  The money is therefore transferred to other areas of the school that could use it.  I understood what he meant.  I had heard of numerous stories of how some ppl that come to korea to teach are here just to have fun.  They know they get free plane tickets, can get paid for teaching ABCs, vacation to neighboring countries, and have a lively nightlife/drinking life here in Korea, use up all the sick days they are entitled to (when really not sick), and demand for higher pay every year etc.

I feel very sad for those of us who really want to be professional and highly respectful to our employers, but are getting the axe for the bad reputation built up by others in the past.  I can understand why Korea is looking into hiring teachers for half the wages as us from places like India and the Philippines where those ppl will never complain, work their asses off.  I hope we aren't getting replaced by low wage english teachers from these countries. 
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: joseph921 on February 15, 2011, 12:05:52 pm
This is not to answer the original question, but after reading this, I wonder… why are people so thrown off by being at school with no students? Legit teachers around the world have days where no students come and there are no particular tasks assigned, but we call those days “teacher WORK days”. Desk-Warming seems to me to be a term, which when used to describe one’s behavior, speaks volumes about his/her work ethic. (I believe with confidence that the teacher who taught you to read came in many summer days and probably some late nights and weekends)

Do you care deeply about your students as learners and just as people? It’s deeply rewarding to put someone’s needs above your own comfort. Here are some ideas of what you could do if you can’t think of any: plan ways to encourage your students, develop new games and activities, create displays for your visual learners, think of new rules and procedures to implement that will give all students the best chance to learn in a place where they feel secure…

jchoe: agreed with your posting.  I don't know why ppl think it's 'deskwarming'.  There are always a lot
of things one can do during that time (lesson prep, brush up on your teaching/english skills, decorate
your classroom, tweak your lesson plans or devise new games and ideas to make classroom time more
effective, etc.).  I personally enjoy these times, because the school is very quiet and I am free to
plan and schedule my own week as to what I want to do and get done.  Why complain?
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: confusedsafferinkorea on February 15, 2011, 12:09:12 pm
joseph921...  I think enough people have given enough valid reasons in this thread as to why desk warming is such a mindless thing. Most of the time it is done because it is policy and for no reason other than that. That is the worst reason for asking someone to sit at a desk and do nothing that I can think of.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: joseph921 on February 15, 2011, 12:11:19 pm
jchoe..... people object because it is a mindless thing and it is done for the sake of doing it, for no other reason. When it comes to people management, doing something for the sake of doing it, is the worst motivator. If you read my previous post some time back you can see where I am coming from on this issue.

People management skill is the thing most lacking in Education circles throughout the world. All people in management positions in Education should be trained in this skill, but they are not, they are just teachers that are promoted to higher positions and lack the training. Teachers are your most important resource in a school and making concessions on things like desk-warming (for Korean and Native teachers) only has a positive spin off, believe me.
Good point on the people motivator thing, but again, these are the hours you have to 'work' whether you
think you have something or nothing to do is irrelevant.  If you are required to come to work for the
hours, then you come.  I don't think complaining, 'why do i have to come because it is a pointless/mindless
chore', is no excuse.  When the kids are out of school but we teachers still have to come to school, I
don't look at it any differently than if it was a regular work week with kids in school.  To me, this is
the job and the hours, and I treat it the same, no complaints.

Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: edgex90 on February 15, 2011, 12:40:42 pm
Hello all! Firstly, I just want to say that having a forum where people can vent and voice their opinion in a respectable and cordial manner is refreshing and thought-provoking.

As for my opinion, I have to side with the people who enjoy or don't really care to complain about deskwarming. As many have validly argued, deskwarming beats doing more work. Other choices could be that your year contract could be 11 months and you are not paid a severance package and other benefits., thereby easing the Korean government's claim of "lack of funds" to continue to hire NETs (I found out that the gov't is hiring more Korean citizens who have lived or studied abroad for a while. My school has 2 of these teachers and I'm the only foreign teacher. It's apparently cheaper for the gov't and the benefits are nearly as good as being a fulltime teacher in terms of pay & vacation time). Either way, deskwarming beats out most alternatives.
Not to be preachy, but anyone know the parable of the talents? (three servants given "talents" [money] and they all invested their money except the third who just buried it and dug it back up later. The third was rebuked for his actions). Anyway, we should look at this time as an investment into our future, whether it be for your lesson plans (coming up with games or bomb/typhoon game templates is quite time-consuming) or what you plan to do back home. There's always something to do and if you're bored, the blame lies on you, not policy.
Try to enjoy the time or make good use of it. If you need a motivator, think about all those past times where you feel like kicking yourself because something didn't go right or as smoothly from previously lessons and work from there. From what I can see, waygook.org constituents are bright, creative, and resourceful. Having the time to chill for 8 hours can only have beneficial effects. I imagine this site to have a tremendous amount of games, ideas, and resources once the new year starts.

Man, I sound old!
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: msqueen888 on February 15, 2011, 02:10:00 pm
just a little humor for all the green deskwarmers out there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIeHeJ0V4LY  made me laugh.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: lizteacher10 on February 15, 2011, 02:21:02 pm
Just to clarify I am not complaining about desk warming, I am quite aware that I would not be able to find another job where I get paid to sit around and doing nothing. I was just wondering what the reasoning is, I know that it is in the contract and I was fully aware of it when I signed. The Korean teachers who have the same contracts as us also have to be at school, this includes both of my co-teachers and neither of them are here.

I am not going to draw unnecessary to my situation at all, so everyone can relax it was just a discussion question.
The korean teachers do not have the same contracts as us. They get summer and winter vacation but have to attend some training during that time. They dont get paid over vacation, same as teachers in the states. However, they can choose to spread their pay over the vacation months. Our contract is different, like everyone stated before, we have to be at school unless we are taking vaca.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Epistemology on February 15, 2011, 07:41:46 pm
What the....... Are you people nuts?! :o


I am so sick of people complaining about deskwarming. You have it easy. Ive been working flat out throughout the winter and spring vacations(in a rural school no less!) and the only days that I have not been thrown into the lion pit that is camp is when I took my vacation days. Every other single weekday, without interruption, I have had to teach. Not a single break to catch up on my paperwork, nothing! I havent even had a minute to start my lesson plans for next year for crying out loud! You have no idea how good you have it, so stop complaining!
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: confusedsafferinkorea on February 15, 2011, 09:14:56 pm
BCH........ I think you missed the entire point of this thread. Sorry you had it so rough, but that is no reason why other people should have the mindless task of desk warming. I must point out too that most are questioning the reason for it and not really complaining. As I pointed out in my previous posts, you must have a good reason to do something, not just doing something for the sake of doing it. 

Enjoy your time off and chill.   :) :)
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Epistemology on February 15, 2011, 09:34:35 pm
BCH........ I think you missed the entire point of this thread. Sorry you had it so rough, but that is no reason why other people should have the mindless task of desk warming. I must point out too that most are questioning the reason for it and not really complaining. As I pointed out in my previous posts, you must have a good reason to do something, not just doing something for the sake of doing it. 

Enjoy your time off and chill.   :) :)


Except, as has been discussed in this topic already, we have to go to work whenever we are not on vacation. Im sorry, but I would rather be spending my winter and spring at a desk studying Korean and writing my lesson plans for next year, as opposed to my current situation, you guys dont realise how great you have it and if you dont begin to appreciate that soon, you may find that your school wisens up and works you like a dog too.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: thedsr on February 15, 2011, 09:54:57 pm
BCH........ I think you missed the entire point of this thread. Sorry you had it so rough, but that is no reason why other people should have the mindless task of desk warming. I must point out too that most are questioning the reason for it and not really complaining. As I pointed out in my previous posts, you must have a good reason to do something, not just doing something for the sake of doing it. 

Enjoy your time off and chill.   :) :)


Except, as has been discussed in this topic already, we have to go to work whenever we are not on vacation. Im sorry, but I would rather be spending my winter and spring at a desk studying Korean and writing my lesson plans for next year, as opposed to my current situation, you guys dont realise how great you have it and if you dont begin to appreciate that soon, you may find that your school wisens up and works you like a dog too.

I agree.  People need to DEAL WITH it.  You signed a contract, you know what it says.  You do what your school wants you to do because they are your employer.  I can't believe people are actually complaining about getting paid to do nothing.  Buy a heater, learn something new, but quit the bitching about doing nothing.  How many times does this thread have to come up?
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: wajowens on February 15, 2011, 09:57:48 pm


I agree.  People need to DEAL WITH it.  You signed a contract, you know what it says.  You do what your school wants you to do because they are your employer.  I can't believe people are actually complaining about getting paid to do nothing.  Buy a heater, learn something new, but quit the bitching about doing nothing.  How many times does this thread have to come up?

*like*
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: confusedsafferinkorea on February 16, 2011, 06:22:00 am
BHC.. I think perhaps you are not fully aware of the conditions that some NSET's are desk warming under. Some schools turn off the electricity during the vacation and I know that has happened to me. The result is no heater, no lights in a freezing office and no computer to use to tweak my lessons etc. There was no one at the school to ask to turn on the electricity and all the bathrooms were locked.

It has also happened that during, particularly winter and spring vacation desk warming, that you are not told what classes you will have the next semester or what books you will be using, (despite asking) so the person sits at school in a freezing office, no computer, no work to do.  That is what I am 'complaining' about !!!!!!
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: elspeth on February 16, 2011, 07:37:10 am
BCH........ I think you missed the entire point of this thread. Sorry you had it so rough, but that is no reason why other people should have the mindless task of desk warming. I must point out too that most are questioning the reason for it and not really complaining. As I pointed out in my previous posts, you must have a good reason to do something, not just doing something for the sake of doing it. 

Enjoy your time off and chill.   :) :)


Except, as has been discussed in this topic already, we have to go to work whenever we are not on vacation. Im sorry, but I would rather be spending my winter and spring at a desk studying Korean and writing my lesson plans for next year, as opposed to my current situation, you guys dont realise how great you have it and if you dont begin to appreciate that soon, you may find that your school wisens up and works you like a dog too.

I agree.  People need to DEAL WITH it.  You signed a contract, you know what it says.  You do what your school wants you to do because they are your employer.  I can't believe people are actually complaining about getting paid to do nothing.  Buy a heater, learn something new, but quit the bitching about doing nothing.  How many times does this thread have to come up?
Just quoting for incoming mod edit.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Wretchard on February 16, 2011, 08:18:45 am
Yeah I am with Ralph all the way on this one, and I have never even had to desk warm, besides times like right now when all of the Korean subject teachers are sitting at their computers looking at Cyworld or reading books.

I get what all you people are saying about "Better yourself... prepare... learn something new... Save a dolphin... Cure a disease... Clear a minefield..." but I think I'd be better off at home or on a beach, relaxing, refreshing and recharging.

I've been teaching for almost 5 years and it starts to grind on the soul, mind, and body. It's not like most other jobs, so saying "If you were back home you'd never have a job with this little work.. with nothing to do there" doesn't really apply. Sure, it is true, but if I was a teacher back home I'd have a solid 2 month break to unwind and prepare (spiritually haha?) for the next year. If I worked in an office I wouldn't need the time away from the chaos that a classroom can bring.

Teaching is a unique job. Breaks are needed.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: ramkyles on February 16, 2011, 08:38:34 am
The reason or "history of deskwarming" was explained towards the begining of this thread. Someone asked "why" not trying to complain but to understand the methodology of a different culture. Somewhere this turned into a debate between pro and anti (or I guess I should say neutral and anti) deskwarmers.

This debate would have been great in its own thread, but like the OP I would like to know people's opinons and thoughts as to WHY NTs, KTs, and everyone else are deskwarming, instead of all this complaining about complaining about complaining.

Interesting opinions though, and props to that video and earlier statement about "saving dolphins, curing a disease and clearing minefields." That would have made a great vacation!
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: L Waygook on February 16, 2011, 08:41:59 am
Well I just removed my post because someone decided to pick me out of everyone else to respond to. I just want to say that this topic has gone the wrong way. Yes desk warming sucks but we do have to deal with it. I will also say that for someone like me who would love to be given work to do right now I am doing my time at my desk and making the best of it. I think that for those of us who get restless and bored with the internet it is hard to do nothing for so long. I mentioned that I always ask for work to be given to me but because I am not able to read Korean it is not possible. This is not me complaining it is simply a fact. I feel so bad to think that people are using this as a way to attack others. I respect everyones opinions and I hope that this can continue to be a place we can share our feelings, questions, and concerns!
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: nakdong on February 16, 2011, 08:48:24 am
just get up and go home, I do, no major complaints so far.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Wretchard on February 16, 2011, 08:53:00 am
This debate would have been great in its own thread, but like the OP I would like to know people's opinons and thoughts as to WHY NTs, KTs, and everyone else are deskwarming, i

Simple I guess... Because the person above you says "Do it!" and Koreans like to seem busy even if they are not. We all know some poor Korean who works at a company and has to stay 2, 3, 4 hours late just because everyone else is doing it, even though they have nothing much to do.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: SpaceRook on February 16, 2011, 09:12:53 am
I mentioned that I always ask for work to be given to me but because I am not able to read Korean it is not possible.

Have you tried learning Korean?  You could easily teach yourself to read over the course of a few days.  Then, learn some days of the week and time expressions.  You'll soon be able to decipher some useful info in those endless emails that arrive every 10 minutes.  Some of your co-teachers might be equally bored and want to help you.

Start with Talk To Me In Korean's (http://www.talktomeinkorean.com/category/lessons/learn-hangeul/) Hangeul lessons, and go from there.  That whole website is an amazing resource. 
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: L Waygook on February 16, 2011, 09:29:17 am
Oh yes I am in the process of learning Korean. I do know that my teachers are too busy to help me. I have asked many times. I use the Talk to Me in Korean site a lot. I can read it but the problem is I dont have enough vocab under my belt to know what Im reading yet. So yes, I am trying! Thanks
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: ISangHae on February 16, 2011, 12:21:38 pm
Oh yes I am in the process of learning Korean. I do know that my teachers are too busy to help me. I have asked many times. I use the Talk to Me in Korean site a lot. I can read it but the problem is I dont have enough vocab under my belt to know what Im reading yet. So yes, I am trying! Thanks

For how long are we supposed to sit and learn Korean?
After 2 hours, it becomes difficult to concentrate on the same subject. There are reasons why most uni students (where we come from) don't study 8 hours a day straight.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: derbear86 on March 07, 2011, 12:03:44 pm
Tired of studying Korean? Read a book. Tired of reading a book? Plan a lesson. Tired of planning a lesson? Clean your desk. Tired of cleaning your desk? Have a little break. Need I go on?! Use your brains and find something to do. It's not the end of the world. And whoever said something to the extent of "there are only so many books you can read" earlier on in the thread, that quote is right up there with "everything that can be invented has been invented" in terms of stupidity. You could spend every waking moment of five lifetimes reading and barely scratch the surface of what's been written. Get occupied and make the best of a "bad" situation. I like desk warming.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: adamwatch on March 07, 2011, 12:21:15 pm
I think Korea could learn a lot from China. There you teach your allotted hours and go home.

Adam
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: wondershot on March 07, 2011, 01:06:49 pm
Tired of studying Korean? Read a book. Tired of reading a book? Plan a lesson. Tired of planning a lesson? Clean your desk. Tired of cleaning your desk? Have a little break. Need I go on?! Use your brains and find something to do. It's not the end of the world. And whoever said something to the extent of "there are only so many books you can read" earlier on in the thread, that quote is right up there with "everything that can be invented has been invented" in terms of stupidity. You could spend every waking moment of five lifetimes reading and barely scratch the surface of what's been written. Get occupied and make the best of a "bad" situation. I like desk warming.

Truth.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: suzettec on March 07, 2011, 02:00:28 pm
Unfortunately it's like hit or miss.  Meaning some people like BCH were worked everyday so as to avoid the "problem" of schools having the NET's "deskwarm", not doing anything and getting paid.

Others schools have their NET's come in -  when nobody else is around - with no heat, a/c or in some cases no electricity of any kind for their computer and just sit at their desk cause they don't want the NET's not doing anything and getting paid.  Meaning why should the school pay you to go and sit on a beach somewhere.

The problem is some NET's are being over utilized and others are underutilized.  I believe we do need some time to plan what we will be teaching in the next semester or year.  I don't agree with having someone come in just because and having to sit for 2 or 3 weeks.  In the cases of those that do have very bad conditions in their schools the school could either have a camp so that the NET's are working and don't have them sitting in a office with no way of being able to make lesson plans.  In those cases the school can give the NET the option of either doing an additional camp or taking the time off without pay.  They can also "lend them out" to other schools if need be. 

The situation is not ideal but like someone else said it's going to come to the point - in some cases it already has - where schools are not rehiring because if what it cost them and having us do camps for 4 to 5 weeks with no prep time a.k.a. deskwarming to get ready for the new semester/year.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: foreverJ on March 11, 2011, 02:09:49 pm
I think Korea could learn a lot from China. There you teach your allotted hours and go home.

Adam

Like.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Ley_Druid on March 14, 2011, 10:16:19 am
I was just wondering if anyone knows that actual reason why we have to desk warm? Most of us spend so much time complaining about it but does anyone know if there is a reason?
I was going to email my co-ordinator but I don't want to draw attention to myself and she starts checking up on me-I come to work but since my co-teachers and my prinicpal aren't at school I only come in at around 11ish and leave at around three. Both my co-teacher and one of my team teachers have said that I shouldn't come in at all, but I am not sure if it is worth the risk, it is literally me and the cleaner at school.

There are legal reasons as there is a national healthcare system. If you are legally supposed to be at the school at a specific time, the school is responsible for you, as a GET. If you are not where you are supposed to be, and you get hurt or something, the school is liable. I donno if most of you have worked at a company in the states or your home country, but it is pretty similar when you are covered by the company's insurance and safety guidlines, like OSHA in the US.

Also, it has a lot to do with the culture of the country. Existing is the same as working. Often we think "long hours = hard work" but in Korea, they are not related at all. Often the long hours has to do with getting promotions, and not with realistic productivity. There is a completely different work culture here. If you are curious, you should find some Koreans who worked abroad who might be able to explain it. It is culture and legal issues mostly.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: salabbe on March 14, 2011, 10:37:18 am
www.sporcle.com

Just to switch it up. I can now name every country and capital in the world. Thanks desk warming! ;)
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Yu_Bumsuk on March 14, 2011, 10:42:42 am
I was just wondering if anyone knows that actual reason why we have to desk warm? Most of us spend so much time complaining about it but does anyone know if there is a reason?
I was going to email my co-ordinator but I don't want to draw attention to myself and she starts checking up on me-I come to work but since my co-teachers and my prinicpal aren't at school I only come in at around 11ish and leave at around three. Both my co-teacher and one of my team teachers have said that I shouldn't come in at all, but I am not sure if it is worth the risk, it is literally me and the cleaner at school.

There are legal reasons as there is a national healthcare system. If you are legally supposed to be at the school at a specific time, the school is responsible for you, as a GET. If you are not where you are supposed to be, and you get hurt or something, the school is liable. I donno if most of you have worked at a company in the states or your home country, but it is pretty similar when you are covered by the company's insurance and safety guidlines, like OSHA in the US.

Also, it has a lot to do with the culture of the country. Existing is the same as working. Often we think "long hours = hard work" but in Korea, they are not related at all. Often the long hours has to do with getting promotions, and not with realistic productivity. There is a completely different work culture here. If you are curious, you should find some Koreans who worked abroad who might be able to explain it. It is culture and legal issues mostly.

Then why is it that Korean contract teachers (like unlucky NETs) sometimes have to desk-warm but senior Korean teachers (like luckier NETs) never do and are free to come and go to a certain extent and not come in when there are no scheduled lessons?
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Davey on March 14, 2011, 10:48:59 am
I was just wondering if anyone knows that actual reason why we have to desk warm? Most of us spend so much time complaining about it but does anyone know if there is a reason?
I was going to email my co-ordinator but I don't want to draw attention to myself and she starts checking up on me-I come to work but since my co-teachers and my prinicpal aren't at school I only come in at around 11ish and leave at around three. Both my co-teacher and one of my team teachers have said that I shouldn't come in at all, but I am not sure if it is worth the risk, it is literally me and the cleaner at school.

There are legal reasons as there is a national healthcare system. If you are legally supposed to be at the school at a specific time, the school is responsible for you, as a GET. If you are not where you are supposed to be, and you get hurt or something, the school is liable. I donno if most of you have worked at a company in the states or your home country, but it is pretty similar when you are covered by the company's insurance and safety guidlines, like OSHA in the US.

Also, it has a lot to do with the culture of the country. Existing is the same as working. Often we think "long hours = hard work" but in Korea, they are not related at all. Often the long hours has to do with getting promotions, and not with realistic productivity. There is a completely different work culture here. If you are curious, you should find some Koreans who worked abroad who might be able to explain it. It is culture and legal issues mostly.

Then why is it that Korean contract teachers (like unlucky NETs) sometimes have to desk-warm but senior Korean teachers (like luckier NETs) never do and are free to come and go to a certain extent and not come in when there are no scheduled lessons?

It depends on the principal.

Some senior KTs don't have to come in because they have seniority and thus the younger teachers have to suffer.

I believe in the new EPIK contract you don't have to desk warm.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: msqueen888 on March 14, 2011, 10:57:39 am
"I get what all you people are saying about "Better yourself... prepare... learn something new... Save a dolphin... Cure a disease... Clear a minefield..." but I think I'd be better off at home or on a beach, relaxing, refreshing and recharging."

I totally agree.  Refresh and recharge.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: waygookshawn on March 14, 2011, 11:22:57 am
It's Korea...asking 'why' is a very dangerous question and often leads to frustration.  You would do well to avoid these types of questions. ;)

With that being said, the new EPIK contracts doesn't get us out of deskwarming.  It simply leaves our vacation time at the discretion of the principal. 
Title: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: ADB123 on April 15, 2011, 01:56:16 pm
After lunch I brush my teeth and sit back down at my desk.. for three and a half hours.. These "office hours" really tire me out. How do you spend your time at your desk "being productive?"
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: daveb on April 15, 2011, 02:06:20 pm
...i'm doing an online MA in TESOL. Bring on the deskwarming...being paid to study...i have no problemos with that!  ;D
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: village_idiot77 on April 15, 2011, 02:07:54 pm
i try to think of stuff i can make ane put up around the class that encourages the kids to do english activities in break times/before class
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: hi_teachuh! on April 15, 2011, 02:11:32 pm
At first it was difficult filling the time. I went from teaching 35 classes a week to 22 classes a week.  :o  I was SO bored! Now I feel like I don't have enough 'time' for anything! lol. I read the news, have started reviewing/studying Spanish, FB, waygook, lesson planning, talking to family and friends back home, reading, online shopping...and the list goes on. I love being paid to do the same thing I would be doing if I was hanging out at home.
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: Super English Teacher on April 15, 2011, 02:15:12 pm
I actually read books to help in my professional development and write book reviews on them! Might sound kind of geeky but I enjoy keeping my mind sharp and learning new things. Check out the library in your school to see if they have any good books to read. :)
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: Incredagogue on April 15, 2011, 02:16:37 pm
You forgot the option "Browse Waygook.org endlessly"
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: Granth5185 on April 15, 2011, 02:19:08 pm
Read or study or watch a movie or make some amazing power point and post it on waygook!  It also pays if you are at a public school to get out of the desk and go visit with some of the other Korean teachers.  Bring some coffee or fruit and try to have a chat, they really appreciate it, you can make some friends and learn a bit of Korean.
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: mscorpgrl on April 15, 2011, 02:23:23 pm
I'm all caught up on this week's TV, finished my book 2 days ago, and am leaving Korea in a week.  2 hours left of today and I have no idea what to do with my time.
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: e1004 on April 15, 2011, 02:24:29 pm
You forgot the option "Browse Waygook.org endlessly"


i second this.... LOL!
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: derbear86 on April 15, 2011, 02:31:57 pm
I'm glad to read all of these posts! The last thread I read on deskwarming was full of complainers who couldn't seem to grasp the fact that they were being paid to sit around and do pretty much anything they wanted. It's good to know that not all waygooks are whiny weiners. I like to read and study Korean during my desk warming days.
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: confusedsafferinkorea on April 15, 2011, 02:45:34 pm
Daveb, if you don't mind me asking, with which university are you doing your online MA? I'd be interested in doing one of those...

Andrew

Just sent you a PM with some questions about it too.   :) :)
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: penny on April 15, 2011, 02:51:20 pm
Do a course. I know how you feel. I had my hands full when I was teaching after school classes. I  teach 23 hours a week and then I work on my assignments. I'm doing a pgce course, that keeps me busy.
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: Kyndo on April 15, 2011, 02:53:29 pm
Doing a TESOL MA sounds like a great way to pass the time. ;D I'm definitely going to look into that as well.
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: Lindsay on April 15, 2011, 02:55:19 pm
These days it's lesson planning but I'm looking into starting a postgrad as well. When the kids and other teachers aren't in (vacation and after camp etc) I also bring my saxophone to school since there's nobody to disturb.
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: jbilnoski on April 15, 2011, 02:58:27 pm
I try to plan a few things to get done for the days I know I will be at the desk for an extended period of time. However, I usually end up browsing Waygook and FB for too dang long!
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: cruisemonkey on April 15, 2011, 03:01:10 pm
but i can see the problems that may arise if we were simply allowed to leave during those hours in which we aren't teaching classes.

Yes, the Ks would have large gangs of drunken PS foreigners roaming the streets and starting fights.
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: notinKS on April 15, 2011, 03:04:02 pm
시간 있으면 한국어를 공부할래요.

I like the thought of studying and getting paid for it, especially when it greatly improves my life in Korea  8)
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: elzoog on April 15, 2011, 03:24:51 pm
...i'm doing an online MA in TESOL. Bring on the deskwarming...being paid to study...i have no problemos with that!  ;D

Which online MA in TESOL course are you taking?
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: nyoung914 on April 15, 2011, 03:26:26 pm
i bring a mat and do sit ups and pushups. sometimes I dance around just for fun.
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: danitravels on April 15, 2011, 03:39:27 pm
I'm surprised nobody's fessed up yet. After the lesson plans are finished (literaly 2 weeks in advance,) you'll see my computer will have something playing on either sidereel or surfthechannel!
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: jrwhite82 on April 15, 2011, 05:25:43 pm
P90X!  I bring a different DVD in each day and my resistance bands, push the tables away and go for the X factor!
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: tealstardust on April 15, 2011, 05:29:28 pm
I lesson plan and live on facebook...I am also in an online masters program, so I should also be reading...but I am not!  :-S  Oh well...
Title: Re: Desk Warming...dun dun dun
Post by: ryusukha on April 15, 2011, 08:19:37 pm
I just look for good videos or materials for my lesson and internet surfing.
Title: Deskwarming is bad for your health.
Post by: Thomas Mc on April 21, 2011, 12:54:21 pm
Most EFLers are young and probably never worry about their health but I thought I'd post this anyway.

I just read a study of heart disease that is extremely worrying for people who think that by doing exercise in their free time will be their saviour when it comes to heart disease. 

Here is a quote from the article "suggesting that the health benefits of exercise don't cancel out all that time in front of the tube or computer."

It's a new and worrying field called "inactivity physiology". Simply by spending a long period of sitting you are setting yourself up for a heart attack.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/10/tv.heart.health/index.html
Title: Re: Deskwarming will kill you.
Post by: Adamski on April 21, 2011, 01:03:21 pm
Most EFLers are young and probably never worry about their health but I thought I'd post this anyway.

I just read a study of heart disease that is extremely worrying for people who think that by doing exercise in their free time will be their saviour when it comes to heart disease. 

Here is a quote from the article "suggesting that the health benefits of exercise don't cancel out all that time in front of the tube or computer."

It's a new and worrying field called "inactivity physiology". Simply by spending a long period of sitting you are setting yourself up for a heart attack.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/10/tv.heart.health/index.html

Changes in the body caused by sitting may not be the only factor at work. Studies have shown that people eat more unhealthy snacks while they watch TV and are more likely to be exposed to ads for junk food. "My intuition tells me that it's more likely that it's sitting, but we don't have hard evidence yet to support either of the two explanations,"


Although the researchers weren't able to confirm the lipoprotein lipase theory, blood samples from the study participants suggest that the relationship between screen time and heart problems is partly explained by unhealthy cholesterol levels and inflammation. Being overweight also appears to play a role.
Title: Re: Deskwarming will kill you.
Post by: Tamillow on April 21, 2011, 02:24:35 pm
@Adamski: obviously you looked for the points of doubt that scientists always include for good reason. But look at the obvious point...

The chair was an invention. And it was an unnatural invention at that. When did it become considered as innovative and useful as the wheel? If anything it is exactly the opposite.
Title: Re: Deskwarming will kill you.
Post by: ironopolis on April 21, 2011, 02:36:27 pm
So teaching 22 classes a week plus several hours desk warming is more injurious to health than teaching 40 classes a week with minimal desk warming?

I reckon the latter might be a tad more likely to give you a heart attack. Although, there again, you wouldn't have had time to read this thread and therefore may well be less worried about it.

Title: Re: Deskwarming will kill you.
Post by: Thomas Mc on April 21, 2011, 03:00:29 pm
I wondering if I should be standing up at my desk. That would look weird however. :laugh:
Title: Re: Deskwarming will kill you.
Post by: natale_laplante on April 21, 2011, 03:09:56 pm
Desk warming doesn't have to be a mind-numbing, tedious task. You can choose to make it as productive as you like. Who says you have to sit all day?
Title: Re: Deskwarming will kill you.
Post by: atmosphere on April 21, 2011, 03:11:01 pm
I should be dead by the weekend then!

Yesterday, today and tomorrow will total about 12 hours sat at my desk (afternoons off 'cause of some kinda contest - it's not English-related so I don't know the details). In the 7 hours deskwarming, I've done about 2 hours of work. :-[
Title: Re: Deskwarming will kill you.
Post by: minamteacher on April 21, 2011, 03:16:04 pm
I read an article that said you have an elevated risk of having a heart attack when exercising, so I guess we are all out of luck.

In other news, stop worrying and enjoy life!
Title: Re: Deskwarming will kill you.
Post by: woman-king on April 21, 2011, 03:18:08 pm
What's with all the hate for deskwarming?  I can think of worse things than getting paid to drink tea and surf the web and catch up on lesson plans (thus freeing up more after work/weekend time).  True, it doesn't really benefit the schools and it would be nice to get those days off, but then we'd end up with like 50 days of paid vacation and that's pretty excessive.  20 paid days a year for people in their 20s is pretty rare in the States right now.  I'm personally looking forward to midterms!   :D
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Post by: cruisemonkey on April 21, 2011, 03:21:38 pm
Get real! This is K-land... desk warming will only kill you if you sleep at your desk in front of a fan.
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Post by: aq8knyus on April 21, 2011, 03:24:40 pm
Deskwarming is greatit allows you free time away from distractions to get on with all your little side projects. It beats real work any day of the week.
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Post by: kps1 on April 22, 2011, 09:48:22 am
There's nothing stopping you from getting off your butt. Also, workout after school or get a girlfriend for some extra curricular activities,
Title: Re: Deskwarming will kill you.
Post by: Thomas Mc on April 22, 2011, 09:55:41 am
I read an article that said you have an elevated risk of having a heart attack when exercising, so I guess we are all out of luck.

In other news, stop worrying and enjoy life!

Erm? I think that is for people that already have heart disease. They normally never recommend less exercise to young (relatively) people presently free of disease.
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Post by: gookway on April 22, 2011, 10:06:15 am
and it will give you the hunchback of notre dame too while you're at it.
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Post by: twitch on April 22, 2011, 10:16:01 am
gookway:  SO TRUE!!  i don't mind deskwarming....actu ally i'm a bit lazy these days so it's nice.  ;)  BUT....my posture is terrible.  i have to pay attention to how isit at my computer, the hunch is sneaking up! 

finishing up week 1 of 2 deskwarming.   exam time!  :)

must find something productive to do today........
Title: Re: Deskwarming will kill you.
Post by: Ross84 on April 22, 2011, 10:44:33 am
I wondering if I should be standing up at my desk. That would look weird however. :laugh:

If you stand at your desk, you burn twice as many calories as you would sitting down. I occassionally stand at my desk and my co-teachers all know why. Some of them even do it themselves now! ;D
Title: Re: Deskwarming will kill you.
Post by: minamteacher on April 25, 2011, 01:56:34 pm
I read an article that said you have an elevated risk of having a heart attack when exercising, so I guess we are all out of luck.

In other news, stop worrying and enjoy life!

Erm? I think that is for people that already have heart disease. They normally never recommend less exercise to young (relatively) people presently free of disease.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/06/the-truth-about-sex-and-exercise/
Title: Deskwarming is bad for your health.
Post by: helloana on April 26, 2011, 07:50:49 am
http://www.npr.org/2011/04/25/135575490/sitting-all-day-worse-for-you-than-you-might-think
Title: Re: Deskwarming is bad for your health.
Post by: NicknameHaHA on April 26, 2011, 08:02:52 am
A great thing to read while deskwarming for my second of three days! (midterm exams)   :D
Although the early release of the exam schedule does permit me more time for exploring (yay for walking).
Title: Re: Deskwarming is bad for your health.
Post by: chaoticharmonics on April 26, 2011, 08:09:38 am
I always take time after classes to roam the school, talking to whoever I meet. Students can change completely from inside to outside the class. Shy, quiet students become noisy and friendly. Obnoxious students can even become sweethearts. The class dynamic seems to really affect how a student chooses to act. And you can meet teachers and have conversations with people you don't normally talk to. you would be surprised how many teachers actually speak English, even though they will never say a word if unprovoked by a foreigner.
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Post by: summerthyme on April 26, 2011, 08:15:08 am
Mering this thread with the similar topic "Deskwarming will kill you"
Title: Re: Deskwarming is bad for your health.
Post by: pb on April 26, 2011, 08:31:34 am
not just deskwarming~ but being inactive for a long period of time is just harmful for the body!

i suggest taking a break after lunch and just roam around the school...now that all the schools are made into 'parks' for the neighborhood its a great opportunity to take advantage of it! and give yourself a stretch break at your desk from time to time~ it will help you be more awake and refreshes you as well!

i know we have too much time at our desk at times~ but for our own health...shake that body and move around from time to time ^^
Title: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: bjinglee on April 26, 2011, 01:11:38 pm
So you're done with lesson planning and classes are cancelled for this reason or that. What do you do to occupy your time? 
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: JD on April 26, 2011, 01:14:01 pm
Watch TEDTalks on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/user/TEDtalksDirector
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: grandfromage on April 26, 2011, 01:15:00 pm
I'm a writer, so I love deskwarming time.  No games or TV to tempt me, just me and the novel.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: korr on April 26, 2011, 01:19:36 pm
Study Korean. I keep a TOPIK prep book and a couple other books at school and take them out when I have some free time.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: notinKS on April 26, 2011, 01:20:42 pm
Read, study Korean, chat with my 2 year old niece on Skype, prepare future lesson plans and just relaaaaaaax...
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: katrink2 on April 26, 2011, 01:23:38 pm
I'm doing it right now.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: cheesebeggar on April 26, 2011, 01:23:58 pm
Lately, I've been reading a lot during deskwarming time, but besides that I always make sure I am prepared with a few movies or series downloaded to my laptop ( I take my laptop to school most days).
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Khuli on April 26, 2011, 01:29:08 pm
....well, if you have time, then you should use it wisely;lesson plans, read a book , learn some Korean...the list is endless
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Ectofuego on April 26, 2011, 01:29:13 pm
this forum board keeps me pretty busy.  Other than that: lesson plans for future classes, organizing materials, preparing new ppts for class, assisting teachers with english writings, talking to students inbetween classes, reading webcomics and news, mindlessly drooling at the screen, diligently working on....something else...i dunno...
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Can-do on April 26, 2011, 01:30:51 pm
Read my book, catch up on the news back home via online newspaper, update my ipod (get rid of songs I don't like, download new ones)...and eat out of boredom!
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: jordanteacher on April 26, 2011, 01:40:06 pm
Well today I spent about four hours catching up on as much new music as possible. I actually don't mind having some time to sit around once and awhile since I don't always have time to listen to new stuff.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Koenji on April 26, 2011, 01:43:49 pm
Read, study Korean, chat with my 2 year old niece on Skype, prepare future lesson plans and just relaaaaaaax...

Do you have your own homeroom/classroom?

Unfortunately I can't get away with chatting on Skype where I am (teachers room) :(
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: piyopayo on April 26, 2011, 01:45:02 pm
When I am done preparing future lesson plans, I usually stream tv shows online. Also, I love cooking, so I always look for interesting recipes and try them out that week.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: CMTC on April 26, 2011, 01:46:12 pm
Plan English camp
Chat with my co-teachers
Origami
Currently trying to learn how to use my new DSLR
Use Skype messenger to chat to folks
Tidy up my itunes
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: notinKS on April 26, 2011, 01:46:39 pm
Read, study Korean, chat with my 2 year old niece on Skype, prepare future lesson plans and just relaaaaaaax...

Do you have your own homeroom/classroom?

Unfortunately I can't get away with chatting on Skype where I am (teachers room) :(

No, but there's a lot of times that I'm in here by myself. Sometimes if there's only one person I'll go ahead and do it anyway, although not if students are in here. They know that this is the only time I can talk to my family, so they're ok with it.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Daejeon on April 26, 2011, 01:47:52 pm
Make games.

Finish projects

Learn Korean
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: kwhawk on April 26, 2011, 01:48:46 pm
I don't have much time to desk warm this semester, 7 classes a day keeps me infinitely busy. 

However, last semester I had all the time in the world and I journaled A LOT.  When I was over being productive, www.sidereel.com is great for general TV shows and www.topdocumentaryf ilms.com is always good for something interesting and educational.  Hope this helps someone, good luck.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: strangeconceits on April 26, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
write on my blog, facebook, email, read, watch tv/movies online, nap, paint my nails, pay my bills, stumbleupon.com, update my resume, browse over what kind of jobs are available back home, make to-do lists for my apartment, doodle on the dry-erase board, origami, so on, etc.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: obnavox3 on April 26, 2011, 01:53:23 pm
1) Watch college basketball/football if possible
2) Facebook endlessly
3) Naps
4) Good, consistent, high-quality sitting
5) Read up on the news
6) Fail to impress the other native teacher with my various British accents. 
7) When all else fails, practice reading and learning Korean.

Planning lessons over winter camp wasn't really an option since we didn't have the new books yet, only had a few days of deskwarming anyhow so didn't need to do anything major.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: bjinglee on April 26, 2011, 01:55:58 pm
Looks like I found my answer in the number of responses this got so quickly. Lol.   

Yeah, I need to find something more constructive to do with my time other than reading FB updates. Learning Korean sounds like a good one. 
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Ochodnid on April 26, 2011, 02:15:27 pm
1) Relive classic childhood moments through A) Watching old cartoons/shows I watched B) Playing games I loved via an emulator. My first conquest was "Pokemon: Blue" and that was followed by "Pokemon: Yellow." Since I have played Advance wars, Zelda, Mario 1-2-3, etc.

2) Read the news. This is something I NEVER use to do.

3) Give pointless advice to other people needing pointless advice.

4) Conquer the world one turn at a time. I play online risk games. I currently am blitzkrieging Africa and Asia, but I am losing ground in Australia. . . dang Aussies need to hold their ground. Don't worry boys! Help is coming from eastern Europe!
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: eidnalom on April 26, 2011, 11:00:59 pm
Read... talk to myself...
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: laizamaria on April 26, 2011, 11:58:17 pm
Work!

There is no such thing as done with lesson planning. There's always more that can be done. What better time?! Rather than trying to figure out how to otherwise occupy yourself, think of ways to teach your students more efficiently.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: RupertDavenport on April 27, 2011, 07:44:15 am
You can try a new hobby. That's what a lot of my friends did. A few girls knit now and you could maybe take up something else.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: deedeeteacher on April 27, 2011, 08:11:12 am

I usually go and chat to co teachers, paint in the art room or watch a movie   :)
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: tardigrade on April 27, 2011, 08:45:58 am
Sit on the toilet, break something so I can try and repair it again, cut things up, farting, make drum noises with my mouth, invent girls names for hurricanes, cry with laughter at the state of my finances, sit round the campfire and get drunk, plug in my marshall stack and play LOUDLY, count my finger and toenail clipping collection. The list is endless. Most activities become lessons eventually. Don't give up.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Wigfield on April 27, 2011, 10:27:48 am
I blog and fanny about online, generally.

Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: aramella on April 27, 2011, 10:42:10 am
surf the internet, watch movies, take pictures around school, make copies of worksheets, study korean, skype with people from home, lesson planning, origami
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: prunae on April 27, 2011, 10:46:42 am
Besides Facebook and twitter?
Tumblr.
Catch up on some American TV shows.
SOLITAIRE!
Play on the piano.
Play outside with the kids

chyeaaah.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: WTEChesser on April 27, 2011, 11:36:17 am
Lesson plan
Learn Korean
Diagram sentences
Read
Facebook, Waygook, Youtube

Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Paul on April 27, 2011, 11:50:03 am
Make ancillary resources. Over winter (plus spare time after) it was the font suite in the sig, and a matching "feelings" flashcard/poster set. This week it's been an experimental non-point based reward scheme (likely to be finished on Friday when I discuss it and polish bits off with one of my other co-teachers).

If anyone -- particularly those with non-arts degrees -- is looking for an interesting and challenging undertaking, I recall reading an interesting post on Tae Kim's language blog a couple of years back about his perceived expectation for basic programming skills to become as necessary as office software skills as a generic marketable ability within our working lifetimes. My suggestion along these lines? Teach yourself enough Perl to make a basic wordsearch maker script or something. Yeah, those already exist online, but I don't think any do that stick a secret message in the leftover letters or the like, and from making that variant manually I can state that procedurally it's straightforward but just very, very time consuming due to the trial/error nature of the placement.

invent girls names for hurricanes
Brilliant! :D
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: tywhitney on April 27, 2011, 11:55:27 am
Check out bookworm for the super downtime. I wrote a short book durring the biggest lull in the winter. Also, it's a great time to discover new music. I would say though that the best persuits are intellectual and I would check out "talk to me in Korean."  It's been a good resource for my learning Korean.

-Ty
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: technomonkeyx on April 27, 2011, 12:37:42 pm
Write my novel, plan further resources or study Korean. Say 'NO' to Facebook.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: aloke on April 27, 2011, 12:59:32 pm
I read recipes to make myself hungry enough to eat the school dinners (I don't get along well with Korean food)
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: grover3 on May 23, 2011, 06:30:38 am
I read, journal, email, study Korean, and draw when I finish lesson planning.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: n00b on May 23, 2011, 07:46:47 am
I've found that doing anything productive is nearly impossible. Play scrabble online.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: tfuller on May 23, 2011, 08:09:56 am
I bring my MIDI keyboard to school and play around with tunes, or play video games.
Constructive activities don't work for me at school either.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: wong812 on May 23, 2011, 08:13:57 am
Study Rosetta Stone Korean. Watch British telly via 1 year proxy subscription. Watch guitar lesson vids and comedy clips on youtube. Chat with wife on nateon. Chat with co-teachers and answer their English confusions. Facefook. Watch footytube. Go for a walkabout when my desk gets too warm. Oh yeah I almost forgot. Play guitar. My co's love a bit of Beatles
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: jjade1628 on May 23, 2011, 08:20:35 am
1) Check Fbook
2) Read the news
3) Lesson Plans
4) Print things and create flashcards using the laminating machine
5) Look for online English games to be used in class
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: atmosphere on May 23, 2011, 08:33:34 am
YouTube videos, read a few diff forums, read the news, watch a movie or read a book.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: winginit on May 23, 2011, 08:41:04 am
Very little, I still have lesson plans unused from march as my lessons are often cancelled and I teach from the textbook 90% of the time,  so I find it hard to motivate myself to plan anymore lessons to not use. I sometimes watch EDUNET lessons, which are helpful for textbook teachers. I write, read self help books to savour my sanity, like everything possible on facebook, nose at pics of people i dont even know, plan diets and whilst eating (every bar of chocolate is my last) and generally just go crazy.
Nothing helpful here I know, but it passed 5 minutes of my monday morning writing it x
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Jozigirl on May 23, 2011, 08:49:15 am
Work!

There is no such thing as done with lesson planning. There's always more that can be done. What better time?! Rather than trying to figure out how to otherwise occupy yourself, think of ways to teach your students more efficiently.

I wonder if this person is for real.  If so, just goes to show some "teachers" here are in fact crazy!

Or some of us simply enjoy our jobs and try to constantly improve our lessons...
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: lau07mb2 on May 23, 2011, 08:57:57 am

4) Good, consistent, high-quality sitting

I love this one, would think of taking up sitting proffesionally if EPIK let us get two jobs out here.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: andyfoggy on May 23, 2011, 09:07:03 am

4) Good, consistent, high-quality sitting

I love this one, would think of taking up sitting proffesionally if EPIK let us get two jobs out here.
:laugh: that made me laugh
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: happyface on May 23, 2011, 09:25:45 am
I bring my external hard drive to school and organize my music perfectly on itunes, until I can't stand it anymore. Then I read articles, try to find games for school, read posts on waygook and listen to music.  :)
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Jeff Winston on May 23, 2011, 09:38:09 am
Work!

There is no such thing as done with lesson planning. There's always more that can be done. What better time?! Rather than trying to figure out how to otherwise occupy yourself, think of ways to teach your students more efficiently.

I wonder if this person is for real.  If so, just goes to show some "teachers" here are in fact crazy!

Yep, it's those that feel they want to improve on the job they are paid to do that are nuts right?
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: CorbenDallas on May 23, 2011, 09:38:57 am
crack out on youtube, make a zillion flash cards of korean words, read, watch movies, and maybe slip in my psp if i think i can get away with it... of course this is after i finish all of my lesson plans.   ;D
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Jeff Winston on May 23, 2011, 09:40:15 am
I've been here 3 years, my plans are done to my satisfaction

so I surf, read, write my novel, and workout on the schools walking track.

I also have about ten seasons of one or two seaosn shows in my hard drive, as well as about 30 movies. I throw in one of them if I need a mindless break
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: parkfv on May 23, 2011, 09:48:53 am
Usually read - nothing better than a quiet teacher's room for a great reading environment.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Ochodnid on May 23, 2011, 10:03:33 am
I do a lot of different things. I teach at a Vocational school, so my lesson plans can be reused at every level. I have free range on lesson plans. I just modify or simplify the lesson depending on the class. Number 1 is the first thing I do and number 10 is the last thing I do.

1. Make, modify, and Archive lessons - I either make lesson plans with ideas I have at the moment or I work on ones I need to do. I search waygook looking for ideas. If I find a good one, I will usually modify it to better fit my classes, simplify. I also archive lessons. If I find something I like, I just download it and toss it in my archive folder. If I need an on the fly lesson, I pull one out and use it. Or I might modify it later during down time. I always make sure I have 3 full backup lessons ready.

2. Check E-Mail / facebook messages from family.

3. Read the news. A) Eventful news, world issues, etc. B) Video games coming out

4. Read a book/kindle.

5. Study German

6. Study Korean. Yes, I study German first. I only plan on being here for another year or two, but I plan on living in Germany. My German is diminishing rapidly lol. When I graduated University my German was Advanced-High and just a hair below Fluent. I fear now it is Advanced-Low lol. I forgot what was "to cook" the other day and almost hung myself lol.

7. Help student teachers with their English.

8. Look for new and interesting songs. I look for English songs the students might like or I try to find new K-Pop songs. I would rather show English songs, but it is more important for me to get my students attentions first. 90% of my students don't care about English and will quit learning it after high school. I need to get their interest first and then get them into English.

9. Conquer the world on CIV 4. I bring my Macbook pro to modify lessons, my work PC blows. I have CIV4 running the background and take a turn or two every so often. If I have everything done for the next few lessons, I play it for a while.

10. Work-out in the school gym. This wasn't my idea actually. I started working out in the school gym after school and my VP saw me. He was happy someone was using it. If I do not have classes in the last period or the last two periods, I am allowed to use the gym. I just need to get the keys from him first and return them to him after I am finished. This way he knows where I am.
Title: summer desk warming
Post by: syd wegoda on June 16, 2011, 02:42:23 pm
I found out today I will be working at the summer camp from 9- 12.30 for three weeks but that I will have to stay in the school till 4.40pm everyday, desk warming. Is this normal and is there any way to avoid it, ie through contract or talking to the teachers?
Title: Re: summer desk warming
Post by: teach1 on June 16, 2011, 02:51:01 pm
Not sure where you are but I think it's pretty normal to be let go after 12 or so. I work for SMOE. A girl I worked with at a district camp in the winter had to go BACK to her school and teach in the afternoon, but they were just being complete assholes to her. I think being let go after 12 is just a nice perk of summer camp but not required. Our contract states that we have to work 40 hours a week.

You could try to explain to your co-teachers that there's nothing you would be doing AT ALL and that pretty much all other teachers go home. Are your co-teachers who teach camp with you being forced to stay all day? My camp co-teachers are contract teachers (like us) so they have the same requirements as I do. If they got to go home and I didn't I would bring that up.   Good luck!
Title: Re: summer desk warming
Post by: techteacher on June 16, 2011, 02:53:07 pm
Sorry.  The only way around it is if your principal is really nice and they might let you leave early sometimes.  If you use you contract to get out of it, they will show you where in the contract that you have to be there 8:30-4:30, or whatever your 8 hours are. Each school is different because it is really up to the principal in the end.  I had to desk warm after camp in the winter until 430.  My friend across town was able to go home at 1230 because his principal was nice and allowed him to do so.
Title: Re: summer desk warming
Post by: notinKS on June 16, 2011, 02:54:03 pm
In my last two camps at a different school, I stayed until 4:30-5ish each day and I was informed yesterday that it will be the same situation at my new school. Sucks, but bring movies, books, study materials, anything to keep your time occupied.
Title: Re: summer desk warming
Post by: Jademarie on June 16, 2011, 02:54:47 pm
It depends on your school.... you can talk to your teachers but mostly you are still contracted to work a full working day so that's what they want you to do. This is fairly normal if you don't have a flexible school.

Ask your teachers if you can work from home, or maybe if you can leave early some days. Depends how much you can sweeten them up I guess :)
Title: Re: summer desk warming
Post by: shmoogrin on June 16, 2011, 02:55:10 pm
The school can make you stay and deskwarm if they want to, but many teachers do get to go home in the afternoon during camps (I was lucky enough to have that situation for my winter camps)  If there is no-one staying in your school in the afternoon you might get out of it, but if the Korean teachers are there you might be stuck.  Sorry bud. Check out some other posts for deskwarming ideas or (gasp!) you could do lesson planning.
Title: Re: summer desk warming
Post by: syd wegoda on June 16, 2011, 03:03:07 pm
I think my co-teachers are staying till 4.40 as well (they are kept on a tight leash) so it looks like I will have to as well. However, sometimes I get to leave early if I need to do something like buy a new phone etc so maybe I will be able to go home early on some days.
Title: Re: summer desk warming
Post by: bktetsujin on June 16, 2011, 03:11:25 pm
During Winter Camp, one of my co-teachers had to be here to teach. Then she stayed until 4:40. I remember her playing K-dramas and movies from 12 to 4:40, so I will be doing something similar. I know I will be using my time to write my resume and cover letters for jobs that I will be applying to. Not much longer until I get back to the states. I'm going to start applying for jobs at the end of July and hope I can get something.
Title: Re: summer desk warming
Post by: Vincent on June 16, 2011, 03:16:06 pm
look at it as getting payed to do nothing  - because that's what it actually is
Title: Re: summer desk warming
Post by: snafuman on June 16, 2011, 03:18:44 pm
It must have been much better in public schools before they started requiring all of this deskwarming.
Title: Re: summer desk warming
Post by: Ochodnid on June 16, 2011, 03:23:16 pm
Roughly 90% of us are stuck doing it. Get use to it. I hated it at first, but now I don't care. I get paid to sit here and do nothing or lesson plan. I use to work out after 4:30pm and my VP asked me why I didn't do it earlier. My school doesn't care what I do during the vacation time. I just have to attend the school. I bring in my PS3 and hook it up to the 70inch smart board and rock that out for a bit. I play chess online, read books, lesson plan, watch movies, work-out in the gym, etc.

Want to hear the best part? I have complete control over the A/C in my room. I don't mind the summer desk warming. I get free A/C all day long to do the same things I would be doing at home. What would I be doing most days not traveling? Sitting on the computer, playing video games, watching movies, learning Korean, reading, etc. I just get paid to sit here in the A/C.
Title: Re: summer desk warming
Post by: Jrong on June 16, 2011, 03:28:57 pm
 :) "getting paid to do nothing"...how true. I also wanted to know about this so thanks for posting this question!
Title: Re: summer desk warming
Post by: dmhr25 on June 16, 2011, 03:43:28 pm
I'm in Incheon and I have found it's very normal to have to do that.

My advice is to check out your local library's English section and enjoy those quiet hours with a good book.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Davey on June 16, 2011, 04:06:58 pm
Merged the threads. Please use the search function next time.

Don't worry, you're not the only one. Virtually all NETs have to deskwarm and even contracted Korean English teachers have to do it, as well.

Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: rabidkoala on June 16, 2011, 07:24:29 pm
I really can't be upset about desk warming. I get a lot of reading done, and I've started volunteering through the Internet. It's great to get paid to catch up on my reading.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: dolphingurl2022 on June 16, 2011, 07:26:16 pm
Pretty much like all the above according to your contract you must work your 40 hours a week even if that means staring at the wall or whatever at school for 8 hours a day.  The one who decides to be nice and let you go home early or for some schools, not come at all for summer/winter days is your prinicipal.  Some principals are awesome and let you take a break from desk warming....others (like mine for example) follow the 40 hours in the contract so even if i don't teach that day and even if there are no teachers at school i would still have to come in.  Every NET in Korea is required to be at school but it's up to your school to let you "take a rest" or not. 

Contract teachers also have to come in and at least for my school (not sure in general) but the new teachers in their first year at the school have to also come in for their 40 hours a week or whatever it is.

If you desk warm just bring lots of things to do because lesson planning really doesn't fill up an entire day/week for most NETs.   
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Reader on June 16, 2011, 07:53:28 pm
At my last EPIK (elementary) school, the MOE vacation checkers went around each school in my city to see if each teacher, including me the NET, was legitimately deskwarming or AWOL.  I was at a provincial English intensive camp at that time about 130 kilometers away working 12 hours a day, when the MOE vacation checkers thought I was AWOL.  Someone called my administrative KT and he had to run downstairs to the principal's office with all of my documents signed by all the right people proving that I had official permission from all levels to go to work at that intensive away English camp, ironically, for the MOE of my province. 
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: pak yu man on June 18, 2011, 12:23:53 pm
I love the way everyone is mentioning contracts.  Since when have contracts been all that important to a Korean?  Even they will tell you that they are guidelines, not set in stone.  I think it's more due to the fact that Korean teachers (some) are pissed at foreigners and the lesser workload they have.  So they make the Waegookin pay in other ways.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Davey on June 18, 2011, 12:31:58 pm
I love the way everyone is mentioning contracts.  Since when have contracts been all that important to a Korean?  Even they will tell you that they are guidelines, not set in stone.  I think it's more due to the fact that Korean teachers (some) are pissed at foreigners and the lesser workload they have.  So they make the Waegookin pay in other ways.

As mentioned earlier, Korean English Teachers under contract like us have to deskwarm, as well. The ones at my school think it's preposterous, too.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: cat fud on June 18, 2011, 12:37:41 pm
I love the way everyone is mentioning contracts.  Since when have contracts been all that important to a Korean?  Even they will tell you that they are guidelines, not set in stone.  I think it's more due to the fact that Korean teachers (some) are pissed at foreigners and the lesser workload they have.  So they make the Waegookin pay in other ways.

Can you give us an example of your school failing to honour your contract?
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: cruisemonkey on June 18, 2011, 04:15:45 pm
There are several reasons for desk warming - the main reason being it is a legacy of the stupidity of previous NETs.

The following is necessarily a generalization, but 'in a nutshell' -

When I first came to K-land (August 2005), desk warming was unheard of; and, the average PS contract 'officially' provided "28 working days" of holidays. Some schools required a one or two-week camp of their NETs during the summer and/or winter school vacations. However, the majority NETs had the entire vacation off (up to each individual school principal). It was very common for those who were 'money hungry' to get a second job at a 'Summer/Winter Camp' and collect two salaries for a month... or if they weren't, go to Thailand for six weeks.

However, human nature being what it is, those who had no camps bragged... and those who had camps complained (instead of seeking a job/school with no camps) saying "It's not fair!” The Ks aren't stupid and weren't about to give the complainers more time off -  very few, if any, were meeting their contractual time anyway (they could leave at 12:30 when they finished their camp) - so the Ks introduced mandatory camps and desk warming in the interest of 'fairness'. Nobody won anything (not even the Ks). Everybody 'lost'.

Of course, the people who brought all this about aren't here anymore... 
::)
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: pak yu man on June 18, 2011, 06:20:38 pm
Seriously?  You've never heard of Koreans not being honorable?  This has nothing to do with school.  I never have nor ever will work for EPIK.  It's just the Korean way.  Koreans like to screw people businesswise.  Take a look at SamSung recently.  The company I work for has ties to them so they were also audited last week.  Even Koreans automatically think this way.

My past experiences

not being paid on time (hagwons and a private H.S)
nickle and dimed to death (hagwon, H.S and uni)
very creative time keeping (every job including company work and part time company work)

The list is too long. 

The best...I have a friend that runs a school in Vancouver with his K-wife.  Any nationality has to pay 50% up front and 50% when class is finished....except Koreans.  She doesn't trust them (being a Korean).  Been here 13 years and I wouldn't trust a Korean businessperson to be honest if my life depended on it.   Am I jaded?  Nope...I just know what's going on and what to expect.  You ask any F-visa that works extra outside work and they'll tell you to get as much $$ as you can before you are screwed.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Davey on June 18, 2011, 07:13:23 pm
Please stick to the topic, which is deskwarming.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Reader on June 19, 2011, 07:21:12 am
Well, in GEPIK, when I worked there before I moved to EPIK, deskwarming was not the result of stupid NETs, but the fact that the provincial Education Office told the local education offices, who then told the various public schoosl which had NETs to follow the contracts more closely because some NETs started bragging about not deskwarming on-line and other NETs started asking how that was so in on-line forums..  The Education Ministry then did their best to close that loophole.  But, some NETs today still make private deals with their schools about how their vacation time is arranged and handled, so they don't have to deskwarm so much, and so they can also get a large block of time off to go travelling with their friends or family during that time.  Another reason I believe why deskwarming has become an issue is that the local Education Offices simply want to get their money's worth out of us.  Plus each year GEPIK, EPIK and SMOE appear to refine their NET management policies more and more as they go through more and more NET-related problems and experiences building up more and more internal policies and procedures about how to manage their foreign employees better and better (from their perspective).  That's my two won.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: cruisemonkey on June 19, 2011, 08:07:45 am
... deskwarming was not the result of stupid NETs, but the fact that the provincial Education Office told the local education offices, who then told the various public schoosl which had NETs to follow the contracts more closely because some NETs started bragging about not deskwarming on-line...

If that isn't stupid, what is?
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: southernman on June 19, 2011, 08:22:38 am
From what I've heard crusiemonkey and reader have hit the nail on the head,  it's probably a bit of both, some NET's complained about the fact they were deskwarming when other NET's weren't. Head office heard about it and reacted accordingly.   Cruisemonkey pointed out those NET's that did complain are most probably long gone,  or if they're still here, will no doubt never admit to the fact they were were the instigators of the problem. 

As reader said some western teachers still get a reasonable vacation time through re-signing negotiations or by their individual contracts with a PS, whereby the school and NET bypass the usual POE contracts.

This has no doubt been mentioned but the rumour is EPIK is thinking about giving us unpaid leave during vacation time. Personally,  I'm all for it.   The more time I have to holiday overseas the better.  One of the main reasons I came here in the first place was to travel to different Asian countries during my vacations.

Some people can handle deskwarming and others literally hate it.  I was in the latter category but have got used to it now.  Still,  I'd much rather be relaxing on a Beach somewhere.


Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: cruisemonkey on June 19, 2011, 09:07:26 am
I've watched the 'desk warming' issue evolve over six years. I used to cringe when reading posts on 'Dave's' where people bragged about not having to do camps and belittled those who did. I'd also cringe when those who complained would post 'all smug & happy' that their particular school district/MOE/POE had taken action in the interest of 'fairness' and destroyed what was a good situation for the majority of NETs (who kept their mouths' shut). In many cases, those who complained inadvertently 'shot themselves in the foot' and found themselves 'desk warming' after camp was finished (when they didn't have to before their complaints). They created a lose-lose situation.  ::)

Edit: It's gotten to the point where most PS contracts contain a clause stating 'cumulative' personal time totaling more than eight hours will result in loss of at least one day of 'holidays'. People are asking here if others are allowed to walk around their school grounds when they don't have a scheduled class. What's next… ankle bracelets for NETs?
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Cereal on June 19, 2011, 09:29:18 am
I fully expect to spend my time desk-warming. I am not thrilled about it but it is the contract I signed thus I will be a good employee. I plan to spend my time usefully however; I will pound away on the wicked set of Pearl drums my school has. Getting paid to play drums, just like the days of my youth.

Memories.........of rock and roll days gone by.......
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Klogical on June 19, 2011, 09:40:14 am
im just as much bemused by the existence of deskwarming as i am about the people who copmlain and make a fuss

to my mind,  the contract says x,y,z  and we should fulfill that as much as we expect our employers to - if this means a few months sat doing nothing then thats what it means - its part of the job - no argument.. and its not a particularly bad part of the job either. ......

....at least when i consider my previous employers in the uk who squeezed every minute out of me.

on the korean side if they want to propogate wasteful government spending then thats their problem.

As government employees charged with teaching english to koreans I am more surprised they arent shipping us out to places like hospitals, community centres and other government/municipal units to give english lessons to their workers as well as the summer/winter camp stuff. theyd reimburse us for travel and we would be still working our normal contract hours.....


as for its existence?? id say its probably got more to do with a fault at the top level. Rather than coordinate, direct and run a centralised national english program, with a proper brief and nationawide targets with academics and practitioners heavily involved in the planning and execution of it....etc etc .........they throw money at us and devolve all responsibility to the schools... so in essence they become a fund not an educational enterprise and rely on PR exercises to keep itself going..
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: cruisemonkey on June 19, 2011, 09:49:40 am
As government employees charged with teaching english to koreans I am more surprised they arent shipping us out to places like hospitals, community centres and other government/municipal units to give english lessons to their workers as well as the summer/winter camp stuff. theyd reimburse us for travel and we would be still working our normal contract hours.....

They could. However, because the vast majority of NETs are here on an E-2, they'd have to change the Immigration Act first.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Klogical on June 19, 2011, 12:47:37 pm

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They could. However, because the vast majority of NETs are here on an E-2, they'd have to change the Immigration Act first.
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Indeed, they could ....and they probably should tbh..........I dont see how a small ammendment to any government statute pertaining to a particular government contract - that they drew up in the first place - should cause seismic problems. 

in any case they probably dont even need to change the immigration act - just change our contracts ...doing that should satisfy e2..........  I mean im certainly not complaining, I benefit from this,- I just think they could do better to get there moneys worth...
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: andyfoggy on June 19, 2011, 02:48:36 pm
at the end of the day, when you do get told to go home at 12:30 or that you can take the whole summer off travelling in Thailand don't go on facebook/waygook.org/twitter and tell us about the weather at the beach and how good that cold beer is because I remember how good it was before people started doing that and this desk warming started :(
the same goes for summer camp, if you don't have to do one keep it to yourself
also for camps, we used to get paid a LOT but after some high school teachers complained about not getting extra camp money we only get paid for time after 4:30pm :(
again as previously posted these moaning teachers have probably long since left
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Ochodnid on June 19, 2011, 03:30:29 pm
I still don't see the downfall to desk warming and I don't get why people cry about it so much. We get paid, to do our jobs? I guess some of you could just ask to get paid less and not desk warm, but then people would complain about not making enough money.

I love my "me" time. Getting paid to read, lesson plan, enjoy free A/C, work-out, study, etc.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: jkim7609 on June 19, 2011, 08:16:55 pm
Deskwarming sucks. This is my fourth eyar teaching at an elementary school. I ahve to desk warm if there is no camp or not in my vacation time. What do i have to do when I get to school? Of course people can get ready for the 2nd semester work. Maybe study or get ready for the 2nd semester materials. Thats all I can think of. What does other people do when they are deskwarming?
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: jameshbarnett on June 20, 2011, 02:08:30 pm
Why would you still go into school if you were told not to?

My co teacher said its because inspectors might come to school. Does this actually happen?
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Pin on June 20, 2011, 03:25:30 pm
I am not sure about the reason for deskwarming, but it seems like people in general view it as a waste of time.  I understand that the thought of spending hours at work with nothing to do seems irritating.  However, there's a way to turn this into something positive.

If you don't like to waste your time being bored at a desk, bring things to do.  Clean your desk/classroom/teacher's room.  Organize your shelves.  Plan future lessons.  Make teaching aids.  Read a book.  Study something that you're interested in.  Learn a new skill.  Draw.  Knit.  Bring movies to watch.  If you can't watch them on your school's computer, then bring your laptop.  Anything is better than just doing nothing, right?  You might as well benefit from this in some way.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: speaktruth2pwr on June 20, 2011, 08:37:00 pm
To all those who don't understand the fundamental complaint re: deskwarming.

Public school teachers are paid as a function of time (8 hours a day) and classes (22 per week).  There is no room in the contract for merit.  That being, if you are efficient and plan your lessons, prep for camp, study, read some books, watch a movie every day, and still have 2 hours a day to kill; you might find the need to complain. 

Korea is not a meritocracy. 

I know that the I can use my time more efficiently if left to my own devices, but trying to explain that to a public school system that doesn't bother to fail students who do 0% of the work, is like trying to not be stared at on the subway.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: ecoecho on June 20, 2011, 09:05:32 pm
To all those who don't understand the fundamental complaint re: deskwarming.

Public school teachers are paid as a function of time (8 hours a day) and classes (22 per week).  There is no room in the contract for merit.  That being, if you are efficient and plan your lessons, prep for camp, study, read some books, watch a movie every day, and still have 2 hours a day to kill; you might find the need to complain. 

Korea is not a meritocracy. 

I know that the I can use my time more efficiently if left to my own devices, but trying to explain that to a public school system that doesn't bother to fail students who do 0% of the work, is like trying to not be stared at on the subway.

I second that; thank you for your apt response.
Title: Re: The reason for desk warming
Post by: Davey on June 20, 2011, 10:19:33 pm
I think this thread has run its course and cruisemonkey's answer addressed the OP's original question best. It serves as a warning to certain NETs who get extra privileges: don't publicly brag about them because it may cause others to suffer later on!

Deskwarming is preposterous and maybe if we complain to the MOE/EPIK enough it'll change. In the meantime, try to think positively about it (paid to do nothing; catch up on things; etc.), although I know it's difficult to do so. Also bear in mind contracted Korean English teachers also have to do it, too. Thus, it's not exclusive to NETs. 
Title: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: boeta777 on July 06, 2011, 08:05:30 am
what  will you do when you have no classes all day?
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Tony05 on July 07, 2011, 11:30:43 am
That is what I was going to ask. I just got a new position in a high school. I have been here for 2 years and have all my materials. Then I found out that this is a high school with students so low that they should all be in kindergarden. So now I am wondering what to do? Are there any suggestions aside from the facebook. thing. In one school I actaully watched movies, but this schol doesn't want you to do anything but work. I have 3 classes a day, how much work can I put into it, when half the students, a class of five, do not even show up?

Please, any help would be great.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Lana86 on July 07, 2011, 12:31:21 pm
This is the best time to plan lessons and make games  ;)  but if you don't want to plan a trip it's fun!!!

http://www.phuket-travel.com/
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Lana86 on July 07, 2011, 12:35:52 pm
or try this      http://www.veetle.com/
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: popeye2u on July 08, 2011, 10:25:52 am
wow..you guys are lucky.  I still have classes for another week.  I cant wait to deskwarm!  ;D
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: shader42 on July 08, 2011, 11:19:24 am
I just discovered project free tv! type it into google and it will the first thing that come up, then watch movies, wish I had discovered this sooner.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Cereal on July 08, 2011, 12:28:48 pm
I start in a couple of weeks. I think I'll spend the time pounding away on the wicked set of drums this school has and get my chops back.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: alwaysgood on July 08, 2011, 01:39:34 pm
Haven't started desk warming yet.  I have 3 weeks of summer camp, so might not have to do much of it.  I will mostly do work-related stuff, study, check the news, facebook, waygook, and if there is still time... kongregate.com flash games.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: sean_teacher on July 11, 2011, 01:40:05 pm
Read. As much as I can. I'm reading about how to maintain a motorcycle, AND ENJOYING IT. Also, this http://www.ted.com/
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Kaypea on July 11, 2011, 03:21:24 pm
What I should do:

-Plan for the first couple of weeks back after summer.

What I'm doing:

-Micromanaging details for my upcoming trip.  heheh.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: yeti08 on July 12, 2011, 02:26:43 pm
Reading, studying Korea, & planning vacation.

Still hate deskwarming.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: chowdahead on July 13, 2011, 08:02:53 am
I generally read cooking blogs and save recipes for later. Also dread the dozen inevitable "Is it delicious???" questions from random Koreans in the school. At least they're taking an interest, I guess.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: SuwonROKs on July 13, 2011, 10:27:14 am
This year I've made it my goal to study Korean for at least an hour everyday.  With the remaining time, there is reading but I also use a great site to watch documentaries online.  If anyone is interested, here's the site:
http://freedocumentaries.org/

This one is pretty good, too
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/

For those of you interested in Korean TV, www.mysoju.com is a site that has loads of asian shows with English subs.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: marelize87 on July 13, 2011, 12:47:22 pm
read, and planning afterschool classes!
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: elspeth on July 13, 2011, 02:08:37 pm
I generally read cooking blogs and save recipes for later. Also dread the dozen inevitable "Is it delicious???" questions from random Koreans in the school. At least they're taking an interest, I guess.
Do you then bake these treats for your friends and bring them to social gatherings?
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: nkrider on July 13, 2011, 02:50:05 pm
I play chess online sometimes. Spela schack.com is free.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: ntlwng on July 13, 2011, 04:38:41 pm
I planned my lessons, wrote in my diary, read books, and wrote long emails to my friends back home. I would IM on Skype and sometimes I'd take long walks outside of school through the markets if they were open. I also learned to read Korean during those times.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Tuuuesday on July 13, 2011, 04:39:52 pm
I am about to move over to Korea and start my teaching in August. How much of your day tends to be spent desk warming? Do these sessions generally give you the chance to lesson plan or do you find that it's so quick and easy organising your week that the desk warming sessions are a complete waste of time?

Cheers :)
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: flasyb on July 13, 2011, 05:19:48 pm
I am about to move over to Korea and start my teaching in August. How much of your day tends to be spent desk warming? Do these sessions generally give you the chance to lesson plan or do you find that it's so quick and easy organising your week that the desk warming sessions are a complete waste of time?

Cheers :)

I wouldn't say the time when you have no classes during regular term time is "desk warming" per se. Desk warming usually refers to the Winter and Summer breaks when you have to come to school and sit at your desk but the majority of teachers in your school have vacation time.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: profmiscreant on July 14, 2011, 10:00:18 am
...start penning your memoires....
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Pin on July 14, 2011, 01:22:40 pm
I haven't started deskwarming yet, but this is the current plan (in order of importance).

1 )   Plan lessons/Make teaching aids
2 )   Study Korean
3 )   Play with Powerpoint
4 )   Read
5 )   Draw
6 )   Facebook
7 )   E-mail
8 )   Play with Flash
9 )   Deskercise
10 ) Clean/Arrange things
11 ) Count Calories
12 ) Do Origami/Collect the fruits of this labor in glass jars
13 ) Play with Finale Notepad
14 ) Take a nap
15 ) Watch video tutorials of various things even if I do not plan to utilize the featured skill
16 ) Take camera phone photos of myself and various things around the office at stupid angles
17 ) Collect said photos and transform them into a mountain of photoshop filter vomit
18 ) Take the edited photos and use them to create a high-contrast photo deskwarming story
19 ) Make phone ringtones using indie douchebag music
20 ) Office.  Dance.  Party.


Hopefully, I won't have to make it too far down this list.   It gets pretty bleak towards the end.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: smileseoul on July 14, 2011, 03:32:39 pm
Sit on the toilet, break something so I can try and repair it again, cut things up, farting, make drum noises with my mouth, invent girls names for hurricanes, cry with laughter at the state of my finances, sit round the campfire and get drunk, plug in my marshall stack and play LOUDLY, count my finger and toenail clipping collection. The list is endless. Most activities become lessons eventually. Don't give up.

your hilarious... the system is hilarious!
love it
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: TimorousMe on July 25, 2011, 12:27:39 pm
Metafilter is always good for at least an hour of my day
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: jaysoon17 on July 25, 2011, 03:24:57 pm
My last week of summer school is this week. I get my two weeks of vacation, and then I do one week of deskwarming before the
new semester starts. What I'll be doing during that deskwarming time are the following:

1. Prep for the first two weeks of class for the new semester, so I can be two weeks ahead every week until the next vacation
comes.
2. Try to finish up my book
3. Relax and ponder about the world.
4. Study
5. Contemplate about life in Korea
6. Read articles on the internet
7. Listen to music
8. Try to find more English games online and find more resources for class
9. Walk around the school every hour
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: CraigSJ on July 25, 2011, 03:42:14 pm
I almost never do prep work while I'm at work, even if I have blocks of several hours at a time to do it. I always save it for home, and just waste time online at work. This is partly because my internet connection at home has been hit and miss lately.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: aldritg on July 26, 2011, 08:55:59 am
I am about to move over to Korea and start my teaching in August. How much of your day tends to be spent desk warming? Do these sessions generally give you the chance to lesson plan or do you find that it's so quick and easy organising your week that the desk warming sessions are a complete waste of time?

Cheers :)

If I actually used my desk warming time in a positive way, I'd probably be a much better, more well-rounded  person.  I could read some classic novels, get a head start on lesson planning, learn more Korean, figure out how my students do that trick where they flip the pencil around their thumb. 

Instead I sit around on waygook, watch youtube, facebook stalk ex-girlfriends, and once all that is done I usually have at least a couple of hours left over to hate myself.

So the answer is it's only a waste of time if you decide to waste your time.  I, personally, prefer this to actually getting anything done on most days of the week.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: DeMayonnaise on July 26, 2011, 09:35:35 am
Read my University's sports message board. Since it's late at night back home, nobody posts much while I'm at work..

Play cards online.

Read travel blogs and plan my trips.

Talk to friends on facebook. Comment on every little thing on facebook. Link every article I read on facebook. "like" everything on facebook. Update my profile on facebook. facebook, facebook, facebook.

Open youtube and click on a random video. See where it takes me.

Listen to music.

Duck out of the school to the store next door and buy a snack.

OH, and maybe, sometimes, lesson plan. 71 more days in Korea!! Can't come soon enough...
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Hoosier_Jedi on July 26, 2011, 01:10:23 pm
cracked.com and tvtropes.org

Watch the hours melt away!  8)
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Paul on July 26, 2011, 01:21:04 pm
For post-camp deskwarming, last year I made a font suite. This year I think some colourful grammar and phonics posters are on the agenda, or maybe a phonics workbook template (so I can make pages that go beyond a-z). I tend to find there's always something lacking in terms of resources so come up with a project to finish it.

Once a headway's been made on the current project for the day, procrastination begins. Last year a large chunk of my travel photos got arranged and consolidated.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: richarquis on July 27, 2011, 10:40:35 am
For school, I'm learning new PPT and Excel techniques for game making. That and fixing up my packs of spinners (little spinning arrows on a numbered disc - Dice tend to end up as projectiles, so I favour the spinners) after classroom wear and tear. I'm one half of the "Richard and Mike" videos, so I'm also shooting new stock footage for between dialogue filler scenes.

For myself... Reading. Back and forth between a collection of interviews with Noam Chomsky, and Umberto Eco's brilliant "Foucault's Pendulum." Studying Korean grammar, and photography tutorials. Even brushing up on my Russian, which has been sidelined too long since living in Korea. Enjoying the luxury of being able to wear short sleeves while the kids are away. (I keep my tattoos covered during semester.) And enjoying the calm, quiet school, while it lasts.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Jozigirl on July 27, 2011, 12:40:04 pm
Deskwarming?  What's that?  I'm lucky if I have an hour at my desk where I'm not working on something that has to get down asap at school...
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Shinsegae on August 02, 2011, 11:23:29 am
so its desk warming season and im in school with no-one to talk to(headmaster is here along with the admin team who dont speak english). last year i played online games to pass the time but at this new school almost every interesting website is blocked and i have nothing to do. ive already planned my lessons for the next semester.

im just wondering, in my boredom, what everyone is doing while being forced to come to school and waste time.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Ley_Druid on August 02, 2011, 11:37:58 am
I watch documentaries!
documentaryheaven.c om

I also watch some science ones at atheistmedia.com but if you are religious, you might not like the side cause they also have pro-atheist stuff, but not all of it.

I also study Korean. There are tons of websites for that, or you can pick up a book at any big bookstore if you are interested in that.

Facebook games are blocked at my school, but not facebook.

You can always register and download stuff from warez-bb.org or something like that.

And there is always cleaning, eating, and sleeping!
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: aiden on August 02, 2011, 12:11:05 pm
I give summer camp and do "special classes" that have been set up for me to do so that I can fulfill my 22 hours of teaching per week. Oh, wait! I don't have any desk warming time :o

You are a lucky SOB!
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Jozigirl on August 02, 2011, 12:26:43 pm
I'd kill for deskwarming time! I have a constant stream of work that finds it's way to my desk in addition to the summer classes. 

If I had deskwarming time, I'd use the hours to catch up my blog entries, read a few books, listen to music, study Korean, etc.
Title: Re: Desk Warming has begun...
Post by: Spongeblob on August 02, 2011, 03:27:28 pm
Why, when I first began teaching we didn't even have desks.  We did all our teaching standing up and we didn't have classrooms then either.  We had to teach in the woods and we didn't have students either.  We had to teach ourselves about teaching and a right proper job we did.  If you have a desk to warm you should consider yourself lucky.  Now I've got to walk a billion miles uphill in the summer snow to my home so I can do 25 hours of lesson planning for the next day.  I'll be on my way now and I'll be carrying my desk home on my back.   :)
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: tigershark on August 02, 2011, 04:08:18 pm
I used to hate deskwarming so much.  This should help you guys.  It lets you play old nintendo games via flash.

www.virtualnes.com

random vids
www.break.com

www.damnyouautocorr ect.com

that's about all i got.  Don't forget your torrents.  Holler
Title: Re: Desk Warming has begun...
Post by: DejaVu on August 02, 2011, 07:37:46 pm
Why, when I first began teaching we didn't even have desks

...

I'll be on my way now and I'll be carrying my desk home on my back.   :)

You liar!  Or is it an imaginary desk (for proper training in the teaching techniques) that you are carrying?
Title: Re: Desk Warming has begun...
Post by: Spongeblob on August 02, 2011, 07:51:47 pm
Why, when I first began teaching we didn't even have desks

...

I'll be on my way now and I'll be carrying my desk home on my back.   :)

You liar!  Or is it an imaginary desk (for proper training in the teaching techniques) that you are carrying?
We had to make our desk from the woodland trees and stick them together with spit and blood.  Why we didn't even have trees back then.  We had to grow our own.  Why we didn't even have blood back then.  All we had was piss and vinegar.  We had to make our own piss but the vinegar was actually reasonably priced at Costco.   :)
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: andyfoggy on August 02, 2011, 07:55:19 pm
do a TEFL online course and get a pay rise next contract of W100,00 a month :)
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: hankmcmasters on August 03, 2011, 04:02:12 pm
made this
http://youtu.be/zHq3qHOszTo
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: hilarity ensues on August 03, 2011, 05:48:38 pm
Wikipedia, this site, youtube, planning, being bored, planning revenge on my enemies.
Title: desk warming
Post by: jkim7609 on August 04, 2011, 12:02:41 pm
I just want to ask if anyone has to stay at their school until 4:30. I want to get some pointers of wha tpeople do if they come to school. If you come to school, do you just stay in the morning and then leave?
I just want to know other peoples situation.
thanks
Title: Re: desk warming
Post by: Jozigirl on August 04, 2011, 02:07:01 pm
The only difference between the semester and the vacation period is the number of classes I teach.  I know a lot of people only have to deskwarm in the morning.  I still finish school at my usual time although I have classes until 5pm fore three weeks of the vacation period.
Title: Re: desk warming
Post by: Gunpo_Erin on August 04, 2011, 02:14:13 pm
for the last 2.5 weeks I have been desk warming/finishing the prep work for school camps- those happen next week.  THEN I have city camps for 5 days and then i come back to school to desk warm for another week before leaving Korea for good!
 
bored out of my skull!  and I work 8:20 to 4:40 M-F
Title: Desk Warming
Post by: SpecialK on August 05, 2011, 12:01:06 pm
Just wondering if anyone else has been caught in this situation recently?
I'm with EPIK in Busan and just started my 4 week summer camp (solo) this past Tuesday. My school, located in the country side, is at least an hour public bus commute. My school provides a school bus and at first my principal and vice principal decided since I live so far that I could take the school bus home at 12:20 everyday when my classes were finished. Unfortunately, this only lasted 1 day. :( The office of education came to my school to check the foreign teacher's attendance and found out they were letting me leave at 12:20. The office of ed notified my school that's not allowed and now I'm stuck here every day until 4:40. This is my 3rd year with EPIK and I've never ever had to stay so this came as a bit of a shock! It wouldn't be so bad if there were other people here, but there's only 3 other teachers, in the other building who don't speak English.  I know there's many others who are stuck desk warming, but I think doing so for 4 weeks is a bit much!  I'm assuming there's no way around this, but just wondering if anyone had any suggestions?
Thanks!! :)
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: ganstar on August 06, 2011, 11:04:41 am
Wow, this is my 3rd year and I have had to stay all day each camp. Oh, my last camp they let me go 40 minutes early.

I'm at a new school this year and thought I would take a  chance and ask the VP if I could go after camp. A few days of staying back I was going mad this time.  He politely said no.

So it's second week of camp they are building a gym on the fifth floor, above the English rooms. Power tools going all day. So I asked the Principal, in broken Korean, if I could go home. He said yes. And it is so nice, like a mini holiday. My co is going to flip when she finds out, she is a contract Nazi.

Now that you have stayed back for a few days, perhaps you could approach P and VP and ask to go. A secret between all parties.  Obviously they are somewhat understanding of your situation, having said yes at the start of camp.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: jgmenator on August 07, 2011, 10:42:11 am
I randomly got this past week off as "special leave" from the principal, so no desk-warming yet. The catch was I had to prepare 5 lessons revolving around a special topic (basically creating a 2nd mini-camp).

It didn't count as "paid leave", so it didn't force any of my vacation days, but I am curious to know if I got docked any pay...

So yay, one week off, but for the next two weeks I'll have a  day-care class. Yaaaaaaaaay  ::)



Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Nics on August 08, 2011, 10:42:44 am
Hey, I'm in exactly the same boat, except I am TOTALLY alone because the English room is in a separete building. I must be honest and say that I use this as relaxation time: watch movies, sleep (I brought a yoga mat, sheet and pillow to school) and read.
Title: Re: Desk Warming....suggestions??
Post by: SpecialK on August 08, 2011, 01:00:03 pm
Yeah, it's made me realize how lucky I've been for the past 2 years!!! I waited for the bus on Friday for about 40 minutes and it never came! :( So I had to wait for a taxi which thankfully came down those dusty, deserted roads and cab it home! My English room is also in a separate building and I'm the only one in this building! It has been some nice relaxing times but so boring at times! But hey, I guess we're getting paid to do nothing so that's pretty great!! Good luck with the rest of the desk warming and your camps!! :) :)
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Laura T on August 08, 2011, 02:45:33 pm
whew sick of deskwarming! 2 more days to do so!

I re organized my materials, printed out some class lists,
goofing around internet sites again again again
chat with my friends on msn..

pretended to prepare for my LP for next semester...

awk

wanna go home!
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Uhfotis on August 09, 2011, 09:02:03 am
Study Korean!!!!
Title: Re: desk warming
Post by: red on August 11, 2011, 08:35:42 am
I just want to ask if anyone has to stay at their school until 4:30. I want to get some pointers of wha tpeople do if they come to school. If you come to school, do you just stay in the morning and then leave?
I just want to know other peoples situation.
thanks

In my previous school, 4:30 is 4:30. That school was very strict. My break from school are just my 8 day -vacation in summer and 10 -day vacation in winter,literally.
With my current school, I am free to leave the school as soon as my classes end. And I don't need to teach in all the days of summer.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: sunrise on August 17, 2011, 01:44:26 pm
I did a lot of deskwarming for many days prior to summer vacation. Now I have to teach summer "camp" from 9-12:30, Mon.-Fri. I get to leave after that, so no deskwarming in the afternoons during vacation period. The catch is that I have to teach summer camp for three weeks during summer and four weeks during the winter vacation period.  >:(  Is this even legal??! I know I have to teach camps, but it seems like most NETs teach camps for only 1-2 weeks.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: yeti08 on August 17, 2011, 01:57:33 pm
I also have 4 weeks.  Though the days I teach them I told my boss I should be allowed to leave at 8 instead of 9:30 instead of deskwarming.  She agreed, though she didn't seem too thrilled about it. 
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Gilligan on August 17, 2011, 09:19:16 pm
What do I do?
1. I prep.
2. I check my email.
3. I talk to teacher, staff and students at my school.
4. If there is a lot of down time after these things.... I write letters to random friends and family and enjoy the down time.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: mtmadill on August 18, 2011, 02:58:51 pm
Crank the AC and Work on My Master of Science in Education. Drink coffee and have the occasional nap. Good Times.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: expertamateur on August 18, 2011, 03:01:37 pm
I fantasize that what I'm doing is really noble and meaningful and that I'm not wasting away my precious time here in Korea.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: tamza on August 23, 2011, 08:39:49 pm
look at this: its absolutely hilarious http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIeHeJ0V4LY  :laugh:
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: lorabora on August 24, 2011, 01:46:28 pm
There was nobody in my office during my deskwarming so I would either watch shows, movies, facebook, read a book, or take a nap on the sofa. They weren't too strict with the time so I would leave around 3- 3:30ish.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: assortedfruit on August 24, 2011, 01:59:20 pm
Lesson planning, reading and online coursework.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: pcr123 on August 24, 2011, 07:30:04 pm
We were just told about deskwarming today in Orientation.  One suggestion was to try and negotiate with your school and ask if you could use that time to take Korean language classes instead...depends on the school for sure.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: stephengale on August 24, 2011, 08:43:28 pm
You could may try learning the Korean alphabet...or ask teachers if you can get the draft curriculum and plan lessons ahead of time?
Title: Re: Deskwarming is bad for your health.
Post by: lucycoulson on August 29, 2011, 08:24:56 am
I am deskwarming this week as I am new at the school. I am hoping to make it as productive as possible!
Title: Re: Deskwarming is bad for your health.
Post by: yellow_menace on August 29, 2011, 09:02:54 am
Today is my first day at my public school. As long as you're not desk warming tens of hours every week, I think it could be fairly productive. You can catch up on lesson planning and such so that you don't have to take your work home with you. And, I've read studies about spending excessive amounts of time sitting in front of a computer being bad for your health; while the act of sitting in front of a computer is bad for your health, it seems the other reason is that it is generally connected to an unhealthy lifestyle.
Title: Re: Deskwarming is bad for your health.
Post by: Freeto on August 29, 2011, 10:16:32 am
Some health problems that can be exacerbated by desk warming:

- improper posture
- joint problems (my keyboard and mouse setup is not ergonomic at all)
- vision problems from looking at a computer screen for long periods
- circulation and skin problems

Do yourself a favour and give your body regular breaks from your desk.
Title: Re: Deskwarming is bad for your health.
Post by: MTBman on August 29, 2011, 10:27:22 am
I agree.  I, too, used to roam the corridors of my schools after classes for some light aerobic exercise when I had to deskwarm, or even during an afternoon break during the school year.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: henrykorea on August 29, 2011, 11:04:09 am
you should read, watch movies, write a story or screenplay which is what i am planning to do.lesson plan
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: JYK2003 on August 29, 2011, 11:52:33 am
Get a list of movies, download them (and the subs from Gomtv.com) and create a library for future use.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: pbfconnor on August 29, 2011, 12:56:01 pm
Clearly planning lessons and making resources would be the way to go?
No?
Title: Re: Deskwarming is bad for your health.
Post by: wolftashie on August 29, 2011, 02:03:45 pm
It doesn't help that while I'm deskwarming someone comes along n hands me ice cream... ;D
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: noealz on August 29, 2011, 02:22:54 pm
I recommend using Prezi.com
Makes powerpoints look like a thing of the past!

Also makes them more fun to create
Title: Desk Warming
Post by: Hungtran177 on August 29, 2011, 02:45:27 pm
My co-teacher told me there will be some desk warming time. If there anything I can do to kill time beside going on facebook or playing games??
Title: Re: Deskwarming is bad for your health.
Post by: lorzua on August 29, 2011, 03:37:05 pm
Woow this is a scary thing... Man I am scared of this.
I also have a feeling that I will be doing lots and lots of desk warming in the near future.
Crossing my fingers that I will not have to do this but my school's pretty strict so I am probably going to get stuck with desk warming!
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: skiptomylu on August 30, 2011, 08:25:58 am
lesson plans. also thanks for the link for prezi...definitely seems like a better presentation program than normal ppt.
Title: Desk Warming my way to the top!
Post by: hol87 on August 30, 2011, 09:06:17 am
Hello people who understand my English!
I'm an EPIK teacher and I just started (it's my second day at school) and all I've been doing so far is sitting here and looking pretty. I've been told I "have a face like a movie star" so I must not be doing too shabby at this looking pretty thing, haha. I'd like to start doing more, such as lesson planning, but I haven't seen a class yet and I don't want to lesson plan for something I know nothing about, ya know? They told me I'd start on Thursday so I have one more day of nothingness and then I can get started. Anyone else experiencing something similar? Or is anyone in Gimcheon or has been before and has some tips about places in this "small" town? Looking forward to hearing from you!
Title: Re: Desk Warming my way to the top!
Post by: Merryone on August 30, 2011, 09:16:36 am
you didn't mention what age group your teaching. do you have text books? what is your objective? for example, I teach middle school (I teach at three schools) and i have no textbook and my objective--as defined by my co-teacher--is to prepare a game and have fun with english. at my two elementry schools, my objective is to teach the textbooks they provide. I try to supplement with games and make this as fun as possible. you should find out what is the average number of students per class, whether there is a textbook, and what the objective is. and what your schedule is, how many classes per day,  (how many lesson plans to prepare) and if/when you have afterschool activity class and how many students. I would put this time to good use. sorry, I don't know anything about the town where you live. I live on the rural and southern island of Namhae.
Title: Re: Desk Warming my way to the top!
Post by: megharp on August 30, 2011, 09:21:58 am
Hey!  I've had a very similar experience.  My first teaching day is Thursday as well, so I've been sitting here trying to read the dull teachers guide and looking around while every other teacher around me rambles in Korean.  Pretty fun.  I live in Gangnam and my school is in Banpo!  I'm trying to lesson plan a bit, but it's hard when I haven't seen the class.  How many times a week do you see your students?  Mine works out to 3 times.
Title: Re: Desk Warming
Post by: mcpherson.tyler on August 30, 2011, 10:07:27 am
Watch movies or TV shows... no one will be at your school while desk warming. Make nice with whoever makes the decision for desk warming (mine is my head co-teacher) and maybe they will only make you come in for half days or even better, not at all! Good luck. I am in the same boat as are practically everyone else
Title: Re: Desk Warming
Post by: dak002 on August 30, 2011, 10:12:31 am
Another good idea would be to study Korean - maybe a Rosetta Stone if no one is really around so you can practice speaking - or studying for a grad school exam like the GREs, LSATs, etc.  I'm farily certain that you can take both of these exams in Seoul.
Title: Re: Desk Warming
Post by: kendrabridgers on August 30, 2011, 10:28:21 am
Check out prezi.com...its like ppt but online.  It's a little tricky at first but once you get the hang of it it's pretty cool.
Title: Re: Desk Warming
Post by: The_Skyo on August 30, 2011, 10:57:49 am
I am also desk warming at the moment. I dont want to play games as school is in session and teachers coming in and out seeing me playing all day would not look too good. I am waiting to have a meeting with my co-teachers before I start but they are too busy to have said meeting..
Title: Re: Desk Warming
Post by: candace on August 30, 2011, 12:46:01 pm
The only thing worse than desk warming is desk warming in a freezing cold office!
Title: Re: Desk Warming
Post by: Merryone on August 30, 2011, 01:00:29 pm
The only thing worse than desk warming is desk warming in a freezing cold office!

usually I'm wearing a sweater and the other teachers are teasing me. today I just have a t-shirt. forgot the sweater in the car. these koreans love their air con. why am I always off temp??? lol
Title: Re: Deskwarming is bad for your health.
Post by: Merryone on August 30, 2011, 01:02:27 pm
Some health problems that can be exacerbated by desk warming:

- improper posture
- joint problems (my keyboard and mouse setup is not ergonomic at all)
- vision problems from looking at a computer screen for long periods
- circulation and skin problems

Do yourself a favour and give your body regular breaks from your desk.

I agree totally! however you forgot radiation exposure. potentially deadly for the female reproductive cycle.
http://www.lessemf.com/computer.html
http://www.orgoneenergy.org/wifi-radiation-shield
Title: Re: Desk Warming
Post by: tua12921 on August 30, 2011, 09:55:04 pm
I just started teaching and haven't had the pleasure of desk warming as of yet. The beginning is so busy!
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: rmteach on August 30, 2011, 10:43:05 pm
It seems like the time to find the resources that are most suitable for your lesson schedule and just create a small pool of ideas for future reference.
Title: Re: Desk Warming
Post by: Hungtran177 on August 31, 2011, 08:08:20 am
Thanks for the info and website. Should keep me busy during desk warming.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: jrich0410 on August 31, 2011, 09:58:36 am
I would go on youtube and look at old films that are now public domain. Old Mickey Mouse cartoons were good too, plus some of the old cartoons are useful in class.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: sfulweb on August 31, 2011, 10:52:46 am
If you are out of ideas for lesson planning, try looking back at your old lessons and refine them for future use. What worked, what didn't, what can be done better.... things of that nature.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: charlyinkorea on August 31, 2011, 12:01:39 pm
I was going to say lesson plan but I think someone already mentioned that haha. You can plan what you will do every weekend for your entire stay in Korea!
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: vinny on August 31, 2011, 12:57:00 pm
I write music reviews for a website, it's a bonus to get things done that I usually have to do in my own time...
Title: Re: Desk Warming
Post by: lostandfun on August 31, 2011, 01:13:24 pm
I think Rosetta Stone's the best idea I've heard.  Hopefully there are a few other people around like the security guard or janitor to practice what you learned.
Title: Re: Desk Warming
Post by: maurice2406 on August 31, 2011, 02:19:47 pm
After two days of desk warming I am now trying to plan some lessons but the text books seem to lack clarity, not really sure what the key words I should be teaching are or how to go about it.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: TaraMac on September 01, 2011, 10:48:46 am
Lesson Plan & Plan for Summer Camps...

AND

http://pinterest.com/ (http://pinterest.com/)

http://www.stumbleupon.com/ (http://www.stumbleupon.com/)

 8)
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: jdrag511 on September 02, 2011, 08:41:49 am
FACEBOOK, movies, or build a good relationship with the other teachers around you who speak English.  It's fun talking to them about everything - culture, movies, relationships, etc. etc. 

Lesson plan ahead like everyone said, listen to music, Facebook again, etc etc.  If it's a long day, it happens.  If it's a short day, it was a good day.    ;D
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: joel.badali on September 02, 2011, 09:51:06 am
Learn a new language, or the learn the language of a country you next plan on travelling.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: mystic951 on September 02, 2011, 10:22:55 am
create a list of "desk warming haiku" and post it on your blog :) Like, "the deskwarming haiku of the week"
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: chichi3507 on September 02, 2011, 10:24:36 am
watch dramas I missed from youtube :P
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: purplefog on September 02, 2011, 01:38:35 pm
I Listen to my favorite music an watch dramas!
 :)
Title: Re: Desk Warming
Post by: Shimnihak on September 04, 2011, 12:50:40 pm
But in the meantime if you're deskwarming there's always stumbleupon.com. Great way to kill a few hours.
Title: Re: Desk Warming
Post by: kb wan kenobi on September 04, 2011, 12:56:27 pm
Haha, i've warmed my desk to the point that it is going to affect the gobal climate. i don't really mind it that much yet.
Title: Re: Desk Warming
Post by: zhaotx on September 04, 2011, 01:06:08 pm
I love desk warming. I can catch up on so many TV shows.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: kb wan kenobi on September 04, 2011, 01:12:10 pm
i have a thing for lamebook.com, ricky gervais podcasts, kevin smith (silent bob) podcasts, cracked.com and funnyordie.com.

 ;D
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: burks on September 04, 2011, 01:32:29 pm
Download tv shows, life could be lot worse
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: NewEPIKteacher on September 04, 2011, 06:59:30 pm
Maybe you could arrange your friends to be on Facebook at the same time and chat with them. It would be a good way to catch up, kill some time, and have fun.

I like the show Frasier. There are plenty of those episodes on You Tube. I would watch those.
Title: Re: Desk Warming
Post by: lpaek on September 04, 2011, 07:46:30 pm
i feel bad/awkward watching things online while desk warming...  :(. I feel like i have to show my co-teacher that i am doing something productive other than facebooking/ watching stuff online/ online shopping!... idk but that's just me!
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: engl.lit on September 04, 2011, 08:52:44 pm
I haven't done much desk warming, but was planning on using the time to either lesson plan or study Korean. I try not to go on facebook, not because I can't but because I'm trying to avoid being asked for my facebook address, since I don't usually give it out to co-workers.

You could use the time to plan for your holidays around the country since you've already lesson planned through the winter camps...there are a lot of weekends to look forward to  ;D
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: JohnIocchelli on September 06, 2011, 02:02:56 pm
Do you got iTunes on your Pc there?? 

"Do you got?" Really? 
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: rainesbaines on September 06, 2011, 03:06:49 pm
Just came across this website.  Review/learn new things about a variety of topics with the video lectures available here.

http://www.khanacademy.org/

Looks like a pretty amazing way to spend hours upon hours deskwarming or other downtime. 

And I love the idea of using your deskwarming time to plan activities for every single weekend in Korea.  Clever!
Title: What can you get away with doing at work while "desk warming"?
Post by: ktbffh on September 06, 2011, 03:07:30 pm
What are you guys doing to keep yourself entertained during the desk warming hours? I am thinking of bringing a book, but don't want to push my luck. Thoughts?
Title: Re: What can you get away with doing at work while "desk warming"?
Post by: DeMayonnaise on September 06, 2011, 03:12:34 pm
A book's fine.

I watch sports, play cards online, plan vacations, call people on Skype and all sorts of other stuff.
Title: Re: What can you get away with doing at work while "desk warming"?
Post by: StephSeoul on September 06, 2011, 08:47:16 pm
I find that I'm not the only one not doing anything productive at my desk.  Today, I saw a faculty member in my office asleep on a roll of toilet paper- after your school sees that you aren't coming to work hungover everyday and that you are doing your job, you can probably get away with more than a book.  Have fun!
Title: Re: What can you get away with doing at work while "desk warming"?
Post by: cpowers on September 07, 2011, 08:53:29 am
you can get away with pretty much anything (within reason of course) I am on facebook all day, ive skyped home, and even taken a nap and they dont even bat an eye lash. usually i just sit in my classroom and they dont even know im in there. So, i think bringing a book would be fine haha
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: jillianc on September 07, 2011, 09:28:04 am
What I do during my desk warming (which is every single day)....
1) Read a book
2) Lesson plan for my first grade class I have once a week
3) Work on my blog
4) Look at pictures of food from home that I miss
5) Read other people's blogs
6) Fall asleep
7) Make faces at my boyfriend who is at the desk across from me
8 ) Check my email about 50 times every hour
9) Look for new books to read
10) Look for things I wish I had money to buy
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: jillianc on September 07, 2011, 09:30:18 am
Lesson Plan & Plan for Summer Camps...

AND

http://pinterest.com/ (http://pinterest.com/)

http://www.stumbleupon.com/ (http://www.stumbleupon.com/)

 8)

YES! Pinterest and Stumbleupon take up so much of my deskwarming time
Title: Re: What can you get away with doing at work while "desk warming"?
Post by: Jozigirl on September 07, 2011, 09:34:53 am
A book is definitley okay.  There are several teachers in my office who spend most of their non-teaching time watching movies, reading, playing online games, sleeping, chatting, on the phone/skype, online shopping or just taking really long lunches.

I would draw the line at drinking soju or beer at your desk - unless you're bringing it in for the entire office and handing them out later in the day - but otherwise, pretty much anything is acceptable.  If it's not, the school will probably let you know and then you play the waegook card: smile apologetically, give a small shrug and say that you didn't know it would be a problem. 
Title: Re: What can you get away with doing at work while "desk warming"?
Post by: Mr Oh Eu Didn't on September 07, 2011, 09:48:41 am
Skype, Online Poker, Download and watch series/movies, edit my photos in photoshop and bump massive dupstep remixes!
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: limpimpie on September 07, 2011, 10:57:24 am
those are good ideas. I don't have my own classroom so can i still play games, youtube, music, etc in the staff room? they seem pretty relaxed about internet use
Title: Re: What can you get away with doing at work while "desk warming"?
Post by: sedna273 on September 07, 2011, 01:52:08 pm
Use common sense. But from what I've experienced so far, close to anything short of porn and drinking.
Title: Re: What can you get away with doing at work while "desk warming"?
Post by: Mark van on September 07, 2011, 02:26:24 pm
Look around your office and see what others do. If they read books, watch movies or sleep then you should also be able to do it. I've always found playing games and watching shows at work terrible because I feel like I've just wasted all my free time/day. If you want to be productive then do some research. You can learn something new, find a possible new future career (whether it's teaching in another country or a non-teaching job), learn Korean (at least 1 new word a day), review your next big purchase, find your next holiday destination, work out your finances, send emails to friends and family, sleep (so that you can do more stuff later), upload photos,or make plans for the weekend.

I prefer beer, books and tv for after work heh  :P
Title: Re: What can you get away with doing at work while "desk warming"?
Post by: MTBman on September 07, 2011, 04:20:09 pm
Your schools will check your work computer for your web surfing habits and downloads.  They will check for porn.  You would be wise to do your work first and then relax afterwards.  That's what you can get away with...
Title: Re: What can you get away with doing at work while "desk warming"?
Post by: peacefulwarrior on September 07, 2011, 05:04:49 pm
Your schools will check your work computer for your web surfing habits and downloads.  They will check for porn.  You would be wise to do your work first and then relax afterwards.  That's what you can get away with...

Does this really happen  :o?  Do they have keyloggers or how do they know?  Not that I go on bad sites, but I check out Google News from time to time which sometimes has the TMZ lol.  Afterwards I clear the browsing history, and sometimes use a VPN to view blocked websites like espn.com(?).  But I work in my own classroom where when I do have my sparetime (sparingly) I sometimes watch movies to energize me or play winning eleven on my laptop  :laugh:  Other times I'm busting my butt to try to keep up or get ahead in work.
Title: Re: What can you get away with doing at work while "desk warming"?
Post by: Mr Oh Eu Didn't on September 07, 2011, 06:07:53 pm
Your schools will check your work computer for your web surfing habits and downloads.  They will check for porn.  You would be wise to do your work first and then relax afterwards.  That's what you can get away with...

Please!
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: rach229 on September 08, 2011, 08:29:16 am
I have only been at my school for two weeks and I "deskwarm" often during the week.  Meaning I have no classes the rest of the day but I sit at my desk and twiddle my thumbs.  When I am up in my English room I Facebook, email, listen to music, search for lesson ideas and plan lessons.  When I have to spend the afternoon in the teacher's office with the Vice Principal I only research lesson ideas and plan out lessons.  It all depends where you are and who is monitoring you.  I usually just try to stay busy with work stuff but there is only so much time you can spend researching lessons at one time.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Mark van on September 08, 2011, 09:11:06 am
I don't know about the rest of Korea, but in Busan many websites are blocked by the office of education. I just pay for a vpn like http://www.pandapow.com/ (about 9,000won/month) and I can browse as if I'm in America. Also it's nearly impossible for anyone in Korea to track what sites I visit. You might not realize it but some search results are censored by the Korean government (not as bad as China/Vietnam). If you use this vpn you can also access the American android app market :)
Title: Re: What can you get away with doing at work while "desk warming"?
Post by: Davox on September 08, 2011, 11:50:38 am
Your schools will check your work computer for your web surfing habits and downloads.  They will check for porn.  You would be wise to do your work first and then relax afterwards.  That's what you can get away with...

Please!

"WILL check" is pretty strong.  I'd go with "CAN check" or "have the right and the ability to check, if they choose."

If you have a good relationship with your co-workers and VP, you're probably fine.  If they hate you, it's one of many things they could be doing to make you look bad enough to fire.
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: jisun86 on September 08, 2011, 01:22:46 pm
no concerns about that!
It's def my time to relex my time and can make lesson plan or prepare some vidoes~!
 :) ;)
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: yura0721 on October 07, 2011, 10:05:20 am
-Prepare lessons
-Catch up on my tv shows online
-Facebook :)
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: Millie on October 07, 2011, 11:47:34 am
Listen to music and facebook. Write long email to family
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: sol.sheri on October 10, 2011, 09:48:15 am
Deskwarming is wonderful, because it allows you to come up with lesson plans, read, catch up on emails/facebook, study Korean, write in your blog, and pretty much do whatever it is that you would like to do.  I don't have much time at school to do this, but if you're given it, use it wisely!
Title: Re: Deskwarming - What do you do?
Post by: reversengineer on October 12, 2011, 09:27:33 am
I read a lot of news online. Occasionally, I check sites like Waygook, and when I'm really desperate, I do lesson planning. Sometimes I write long emails to friends and family. Like many other teachers, I share an office with about 9 others, so I feel guilty about appearing to slacker-ish. But nobody has bothered me one bit (so far).
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: ch1can3 on October 12, 2011, 01:33:07 pm
Woah, I didn't know they could do that o_o;  I've been browsing mostly non-teaching sites, and nobody has brought anything up to me before..
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: awarnes on October 16, 2011, 02:07:42 pm
You could always play minecraft (at minecraft.net). That will undoubtedly eat up hours ;). Though I would suggest only playing once you've finished all your other prep :)
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: stuart.a.walton on November 17, 2011, 12:42:11 pm
Here's a link I found useful for learning the Korean alphabet/help with pronunciation.

http://koreanwikiproject.com/wiki/index.php?title=Hangeul_step_1
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: rach229 on November 22, 2011, 01:08:08 pm
Just found out I will be deskwarming most of the winter break and during that time I will be typing up conversations from a Korean TV show and I will be typing up a book! Seriously?!!!? I will listen to a book in English and then type it out!! WTF :o >:(
Title: How do you utilize your desk-warming?
Post by: bb on January 27, 2012, 03:03:00 pm
Today I got to:

Printed out 522 page book on Chinese characters
Payed my gas bill on line
Studied Japanese about an hour or so
Played chess with a favorite student
Stepped out for lap swim at the community pool
Printed out my airline ticket
Emailed my mom
Watched some you-tube
Read up on caring for my houseplants
Random pickin' n scratchin' plus the occasional empty gazin'

How's your desk warming going?

Title: Re: How do you utilize your desk-warming?
Post by: bb on January 27, 2012, 10:55:07 pm
On the limited only by my imagination tip... is it too late to add: Arm wrestled Brock Lesner and  then impressed Kim Yeon Ah with my large collection of Thelonious Monk recordings and to top off the day  saw the  Bhudda in each and every living thing?

Cuz if it's not too late, I did that stuff too.
Title: Re: How do you utilize your desk-warming?
Post by: Peekay1982 on January 27, 2012, 11:16:07 pm
I finished desk-warming last week. I finished a novel! I'd already written 30,000 words or so. I got 20,000 finished during the three weeks I was desk-warming.
Title: Re: How do you utilize your desk-warming?
Post by: DWAEDGIMORIGUKBAP on January 27, 2012, 11:25:09 pm
Quote
Now I'm watching Top Gear and drinking some cheap German Pilsner.


Let's face it Rusty; life could be worse!
Title: Re: How do you utilize your desk-warming?
Post by: grajoker on January 28, 2012, 05:33:12 pm
I think there is a dozen or so page thread on this already. But I'll bite.

Really, you're only limited by your imagination. I woke up at mid day. Drank a beer. Went to emart and bought a HDD to download some shows and movies for my sister and her daughter. Bought the last block of Mainland cheese  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ and some cheap German Pilsner. Now I'm watching Top Gear and drinking some cheap German Pilsner.
If you don't have one; do a TEFL  course it is becoming a requirement ...
Title: Re: How do you utilize your desk-warming?
Post by: Daejeon on January 28, 2012, 07:20:52 pm
I make things to make our lives easier.
Title: Re: How do you utilize your desk-warming?
Post by: denimdaze on January 28, 2012, 07:40:14 pm
I make things to make our lives easier.

...& I for one (though I'm sure many others do too) appreciate you for it!
 :)
Title: Re: How do you utilize your desk-warming?
Post by: overdrive2023x on January 29, 2012, 07:40:29 pm
What do the principal, vice principal, or other administrative staff EXPECT you to do during the desk warming periods? Just lesson plan?
Title: Re: How do you utilize your desk-warming?
Post by: Squire on January 30, 2012, 05:59:43 am
Read, sleep, play computer games, drink coffee, smoke, study Korean, mindlessly browse the internet. I do the same things when I get home in the evening
Title: Re: How do you utilize your desk-warming?
Post by: eggplant_tyrant on January 30, 2012, 08:22:34 am
What do the principal, vice principal, or other administrative staff EXPECT you to do during the desk warming periods? Just lesson plan?

This has always been my question. Assuming the people above me on the food chain are leading by example, I should be reading a newspaper, watching videos on my computer, taking hour-long coffee/chat breaks several times a day, and surfing the internet. This is, of course, assuming I don't have any immediately pressing tasks, and that the VP isn't nearby -- when he's around, you look busy. The principal's more easygoing.

What I'm actually doing: 50/50 between messing about online (netflix, waygook, facebook) and making material for my after school classes. I'd be making stuff for next year, but nobody saw fit to provide me with a copy of our new books, and there's no one here to ask. I'm also reading through "Teach Like a Champion," which is definitely worth picking up if you think that teaching is something you'll be doing for more than a year.
Title: Re: How do you utilize your desk-warming?
Post by: SpaceRook on January 30, 2012, 08:24:44 am
What do the principal, vice principal, or other administrative staff EXPECT you to do during the desk warming periods?

Just breathe.

Those wanting to improve themselves might want to look at MIT OpenCourseware or Khan Academy.  They have tons if free lessons.   Just google it.
Title: Re: How do you utilize your desk-warming?
Post by: Bulldogs12 on January 30, 2012, 09:24:28 am
I'm reading, browsing the internet, drinking coffee and eating snacks in a lonely and freezing cold staffroom (but I brought a blanket and a heater into my office today). :D
Title: Re: How do you utilize your desk-warming?
Post by: luciddreamer on January 30, 2012, 01:30:31 pm
Are you guys finished with winter English camp, but still required to come in and deskwarm?

I have friends who have to stay only in the mornings or afternoons, and others who have to stay all day... :-[
Title: Re: How do you utilize your desk-warming?
Post by: Jamface on January 30, 2012, 02:36:49 pm
What do the principal, vice principal, or other administrative staff EXPECT you to do during the desk warming periods?

Just breathe.

Those wanting to improve themselves might want to look at MIT OpenCourseware or Khan Academy.  They have tons if free lessons.   Just google it.

Wow SpaceRook these look amazing! Thanks.
Title: Re: How do you utilize your desk-warming?
Post by: DWAEDGIMORIGUKBAP on January 30, 2012, 02:49:57 pm
What do the principal, vice principal, or other administrative staff EXPECT you to do during the desk warming periods?

Just breathe.

Those wanting to improve themselves might want to look at MIT OpenCourseware or Khan Academy.  They have tons if free lessons.   Just google it.

Wow SpaceRook these look amazing! Thanks.

Checked those out today too.  At the age of 35 I found studying anything at the BA level on the MIT Humanities site redundant; had already covered it all through my own personal reading.  Bar Some of the science (chem and bio) and math of course.  But I have zero interest in those.

The languages courses look great though, I checked out their Chinese course and it has the full courseware and multi media resourses availble.  Basically their whole BA Chinese Lang degree course from 2006 (or 2003.)

Pretty neato.

Will start it tonight.

Ni Hao!  Wo sher Yingao Ren!
Title: Re: How do you utilize your desk-warming?
Post by: Tayteacher on January 31, 2012, 10:56:32 am
SpaceRook, thanks!!

this site is great!!
Title: Re: How do you utilize your desk-warming?
Post by: catfish99 on January 31, 2012, 11:02:12 am
http://k-season.weebly.com/3/category/episode%2001/1.html
Watching Running Man subs!!! yeah!!!
Title: Re: How do you utilize your desk-warming?
Post by: traveloshity on January 31, 2012, 01:49:31 pm
I scowl at my co-workers (foreigners) who moan out loud that they have nothing to do and that their head will explode as they are so bored.

Really?  You are complaining about being bored?  yet you are getting paid for it?  Tell that to the people who don't have a job.   

I write for one of the magazines in Seoul so spend a lot of time prepping and writing for that.  I do a lot of research and spend a lot of time just mindlessly searching the internet.  Desk warming is a blessing!
Title: Re: How do you utilize your desk-warming?
Post by: edu+smart on February 04, 2012, 08:42:34 am
I used to spend a lot of time planning for the next term, however, as I have been doing this for years, and the school doesn't seem to really challenge me anymore, I spend much of my time watching Weeds or Sopranos re-runs. I also manage an NGO in Korea along with a business... So that eats up a lot of my free time.
Title: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: let's_do_this on March 12, 2012, 03:39:01 pm
I'm so bored here. What can I do to pass the time or be more productive or just not yawn every 2 minutes. I can only be on facebook so long. Besides, my co-teacher is giving me my first riddle in this country: "Rest and don't work so hard but don't just sit there either." Then what am I supposed to do? Help.
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: Wintermute on March 12, 2012, 04:27:33 pm
Learn how to be a better teacher. Read books or watch videos about teaching to help give you ideas about what you can do in the class room.

Heres some videos:

1) This is a 8 parter. It starts off slow, but give it a chance, it gets better.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLsthQvFHuo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLsthQvFHuo)

2) This is a 6 parter. Geared more towards elementary teaching but still has some good stuff.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_barTKxikvA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_barTKxikvA)

3) A good watch that demonstrates how games can be used effectively in the classroom.
    http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/gamifying-education (http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/gamifying-education)

4) This teaches about tangential learning, which I base all my lesson plans off of now.
    http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/tangential-learning (http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/tangential-learning)

You could also...



Whatever you do, just make sure you are working for your students. Unless students send you e-mails through facebook, there's no need to be on.
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: maryamat on March 13, 2012, 08:44:02 pm
Learning Korean will help you tremendously!!! I find myself in your same situation on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, so I learn korean on those days. Check out this web site : wwww.talktomeinkore an.com . My students find it very funny when I tell them "be quiet" "hurry up" or "hold on" in korean. It also motivates them to learn English. Good luck!
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: vw08 on March 14, 2012, 10:19:30 am
It depends if you want to do something related to teaching or not.  Learning Korean, working on PPTs/games for class and becoming familiar with the book are all great ways to pass time while still working.  Before I dive into doing my own thing, I always ask my co-teachers if there is anything they need help with, be it planning or developing activities.

Have you used Prezi for presentations, learning how to use it can help make your presentations more interesting?

Is there a possibility of teaching extra afternoon programs at your school?  I teach an advanced class at my school 3 afternoons a week and planning for it takes up a good chunk of time.

If you are looking for non-school related things to do, there are several threads about options.  Some of my favorite are checking up on what is going on in Korea, planning for my next trip/grad school, writing postcards home and reading books on my Kindle. But these are more applicable for long term deskwarming, like during student vacations.
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: Jrong on March 14, 2012, 10:28:12 am
I'm so bored here. What can I do to pass the time or be more productive or just not yawn every 2 minutes. I can only be on facebook so long. Besides, my co-teacher is giving me my first riddle in this country: "Rest and don't work so hard but don't just sit there either." Then what am I supposed to do? Help.
You could always search waygook.org for "deskwarming".

I tried "talktomeinkorean" but the self-absorbed host pissed me off (and the fact that the two hosts flirt like elementary school kids). I've started a language learning prog through my american library.
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: jenilyn8705 on March 14, 2012, 01:54:46 pm
I'm kind of in a similar boat at the moment. I'll have to check out those youtube videos that are posted above, as I've been looking around for little resources for ESL teaching ideas.

What I've done so far... listen to podcasts.  I've found a few on linguistics so I can better understand the English language.  LinguisticChris is a good one.  There are a few lectures on there too that I haven't checked out.  I've also been reading and have downloaded a few ebooks of ESL games.  Also, if you find a Rosetta Stone for Korean -- jump on that.  Unfortunately, I only have mine on my laptop and its not quite convenient to bring it to school every day, but if you happen to have an ipad or tablet of some sort I know a past co-teacher of mine would study on his.

I could tell myself "prep! prep! prep!" but when its a public school and I only see the same group of kids once every week and a half so a lot of it is repeats there is only so much you can do yet.
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: genius_advice on March 14, 2012, 03:02:54 pm
Memorize  your students' names, duh.
Names go a long way.
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: let's_do_this on March 16, 2012, 01:17:02 pm
Ok, thanks for the advice everyone!  ;D Many of the advice was very helpful and gave me actual resources that I can't wait to check out. I plan on being on this site more, coming up with more lesson plans and use various methods to study Korean. By the way, I do have Rosetta Stone but it's stuck on my laptop too.  ;) I'm sure with these I find something that'll help me be a better teacher in school and resident in Korea. However, some things said on here is, well...extra. :-[

I love that there are some people who, like me, want to make every use of their time but just didn't know how. I'm glad I reached out for your help and many of you answered back. So once again, Thank you!
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on March 16, 2012, 04:40:32 pm
Read the great works of western literature.

http://throughthegreatbooks.wordpress.com/2011/01/
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: fishead on March 22, 2012, 07:56:01 am
 Do an online TESL TESOL lots of schools are now requiring it
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: vroberts on March 26, 2012, 10:01:36 am
My copious downtime is spent on lesson planning and learning Korean at the moment. I have been known to misplace a few hours on Facebook chatting with friends back home though. ;D
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: Bulgogi on March 26, 2012, 11:48:21 am
Learn how to be a better teacher. Read books or watch videos about teaching to help give you ideas about what you can do in the class room.

Heres some videos:

1) This is a 8 parter. It starts off slow, but give it a chance, it gets better.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLsthQvFHuo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLsthQvFHuo)

2) This is a 6 parter. Geared more towards elementary teaching but still has some good stuff.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_barTKxikvA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_barTKxikvA)

3) A good watch that demonstrates how games can be used effectively in the classroom.
    http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/gamifying-education (http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/gamifying-education)

4) This teaches about tangential learning, which I base all my lesson plans off of now.
    http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/tangential-learning (http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/tangential-learning)

You could also...

  • Make Powerpoints, how do you think games like K-POP Slam and Apples to Apples came about? It started with hundreds of hours of me desk warming.
  • Maybe learn Korean....?
  • Write a book, or a blog. Write a big enough blog and turn that into a book.
  • Watch other foreign teachers teach, see what they do that you like and don't like.
  • Put a box on your desk for students to put letters into. Gives you something to read and respond to. 
  • Take more pictures of student activities and turn those into some sort of slide show. Your kids will hate it at first, but then start to look forward to it from week to week.
  • Learn basic graphic design. I have seen so many cringe worthy powerpoints and worksheets on waygook that actually disrupt student learning. Learn small things like use of color, text placement and sizing, and the proper use (or disuse) of images.


Whatever you do, just make sure you are working for your students. Unless students send you e-mails through facebook, there's no need to be on.

Wow...I told my main co-t about the "letter box" idea and she absolutely love it!  Thanks a lot man.
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: kim.freeke on March 27, 2012, 03:10:05 pm
Great idea about the letter box. However, if you are looking for something a little different, www.stumbleupon.com is an AWESOME website. It literally takes you to web pages that you didn't dream existed. I find it quite inspiring for adding a twist to my lessons. Lots of "did you know" etc.
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: tangerineboy on March 28, 2012, 03:20:44 pm
It is important to look hard-working in Korea, there is nothing else to do, though.
Open any power point and pretend to work on it while you open utube as well.
then, no way to solve that riddle.
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: tweedfingers on March 28, 2012, 07:45:39 pm
OP, perfectly legit post but with all due respect, one working adult to another, avoid using the term 'bored.'
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: oxoboxo on March 29, 2012, 07:44:49 am
I agree with tweedfingers, boredom is a luxury. I usually use my no-class days to catch up on articles, videos, and other posts I haven't read and saved up for a rainy day. These include comedy podcasts, wikipedia articles, thought catalog, tumblr, pinterest, khan academy, matador network, 9gag, and the like. If there was ever a time to learn how to cook a duck or learn about the job benefits of king crab fisherman, deskwarming would be the time :D
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: Brian on March 29, 2012, 07:59:32 am
Learn how to be a better teacher. Read books or watch videos about teaching to help give you ideas about what you can do in the class room.

Heres some videos:

1) This is a 8 parter. It starts off slow, but give it a chance, it gets better.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLsthQvFHuo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLsthQvFHuo)

2) This is a 6 parter. Geared more towards elementary teaching but still has some good stuff.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_barTKxikvA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_barTKxikvA)

3) A good watch that demonstrates how games can be used effectively in the classroom.
    http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/gamifying-education (http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/gamifying-education)

4) This teaches about tangential learning, which I base all my lesson plans off of now.
    http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/tangential-learning (http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/tangential-learning)

You could also...

  • Make Powerpoints, how do you think games like K-POP Slam and Apples to Apples came about? It started with hundreds of hours of me desk warming.
  • Maybe learn Korean....?
  • Write a book, or a blog. Write a big enough blog and turn that into a book.
  • Watch other foreign teachers teach, see what they do that you like and don't like.
  • Put a box on your desk for students to put letters into. Gives you something to read and respond to. 
  • Take more pictures of student activities and turn those into some sort of slide show. Your kids will hate it at first, but then start to look forward to it from week to week.
  • Learn basic graphic design. I have seen so many cringe worthy powerpoints and worksheets on waygook that actually disrupt student learning. Learn small things like use of color, text placement and sizing, and the proper use (or disuse) of images.


Whatever you do, just make sure you are working for your students. Unless students send you e-mails through facebook, there's no need to be on.

This, all of it. 

Deskwarming can be an annoyance (read the dozens of threads already on the topic), but there's no excuse for not being productive. 

To review, you can:
* Study Korean
* Put together some lessons for next term, and especially stash away some for when you have an "oh by the way you need to teach this class in five minutes" class.  If you think you might have to do a summer or winter camp later, use this time to see what lessons and ideas are already out there.
* Go through a TEFL certification course.  The merits of them have been debated a lot on this site, but find one you think will help you in the classroom.  And if you expect to be deskwarming again in a future semester or in another year, plan ahead and enroll in an online TESOL certification course through a proper university if you expect to be teaching for the long haul.
* Ask your co-teachers if there's anything you can do to help them. 

Not to lecture, but most jobs you'll have will expect you to know how to occupy yourself productively when you don't have anything urgent to do, or when you don't have any students, or when you don't have any clients, customers, etc.  Teaching English in Korea can sometimes feel like it's not a "real" job, but there are things you can do to boost your own sense of professionalism about it.
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: Jumpman Jr. on March 30, 2012, 07:37:02 am
Study Korean like a mad-man.
It's hard at first, but once you get into a routine, you'll see your skills improve dramatically. Whenever I do move on in my life and get another job, I'm going to be wishing that I had upwards of 2-3 hours a day to sit here and do whatever I want. Learning is a great thing to do.

If you have a lot of lessons to plan, then obviously lesson planning is a good idea. But if your like me, and only teach one unique lesson a week, and using lessons you taught last year, then you have all day to learn Korean.
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: artista44 on April 03, 2012, 05:59:37 am
Learning Korean will help pass the time and help you to get around more easily. That can get old after a while, but it's worth a shot.
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: Sasha on April 03, 2012, 01:45:12 pm
study classroom commands in Korean, might help in classroom management
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: kmsn44 on April 07, 2012, 01:49:13 pm
I agree with what other people have said.
You can study Korean or prepare for your next lesson.

If you are teaching in elementary school, you can also go outside and play with other students.
I think most kids would love it when you come into their classroom during their break, or play with them outside.
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: F401 on April 24, 2012, 10:36:56 pm
Learn how to design a website?  Read a great book.  Do what you always wanted to do.  Get better educated on a subject matter you've always been interested in.  There's always facebook, bored.com or other time wasting websites but I would be productive doing things that I've always wanted to do or learn about.  Perhaps write? 

Hope this helps,
F401
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: F401 on April 29, 2012, 08:57:29 pm
Bored.com is always a good way to burn some time. 

I would suggest doing what you've always wanted to do or learn.  Personally, I want to learn how to design websites and learn how to use the full functions of a camera.  It's up to you.  Learn a new skill, you never know when it's going to come in handy. 

Good luck.
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: ehodges33 on April 30, 2012, 04:49:01 am
-Learn Korean, learn new phrases
-Make future lessons, and if your lessons are already done make them better. Add to your powerpoint and make it more fun.
-Learn your student's names.
-Learn your co-worker's names.
-Make a list of things you want to do in Korea
-Write emails/blog entries about your experience in Korea so far
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: Jrong on May 03, 2012, 10:25:17 am
forgot to add that you could also spend your time daydreaming about switching to an AfterSchool program where you're not used as a human tape recorder, don't have to deskwarm, and your paycheck is performance-based (i.e. you only get paid if they actually learn English).
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: lokiruffin on May 06, 2012, 03:50:32 pm
I bring my guitar to school because my students love to hear me play and sing songs (no matter how bad I sing them heh). When I'm just sitting around, I typically play my guitar. I also have the luxury of having my own classroom so... if you don't play guitar, read books!
Title: Re: What to do during a desk warming?
Post by: JahRhythm on May 06, 2012, 03:52:45 pm
I bet your boss loves to see you messing around on your guitar while on the clock.
Title: Funny video/song for those desk warming
Post by: weirdgirlinkorea on May 24, 2012, 07:18:52 am
I don't know, when I had an office job (which I don't miss at all), this video would crack me up...enjoy!
Title: Re: Funny video/song for those desk warming
Post by: dansk on May 24, 2012, 08:05:59 pm
I don't know, when I had an office job (which I don't miss at all), this video would crack me...enjoy!
I laughed, thanks for that.  (Needed a laugh today.)
Title: Re: Funny video/song for those desk warming
Post by: weirdgirlinkorea on May 25, 2012, 07:38:33 am
My pleasure! :laugh:
Title: Re: Funny video/song for those desk warming
Post by: Lurch on May 25, 2012, 09:27:07 am
Who's desk warming this time of year?  I want to be them.  My schools let me go home when there's desk warming to be done.
Title: Re: Funny video/song for those desk warming
Post by: weirdgirlinkorea on May 25, 2012, 11:31:57 am
Who's desk warming this time of year?  I want to be them.  My schools let me go home when there's desk warming to be done.
Sometimes I have cancelled classes for various reasons.
Title: Re: Funny video/song for those desk warming
Post by: Lurch on May 25, 2012, 12:06:05 pm
Ahh, not full-blown desk warming then, just a free period here and there.
Title: Re: Funny video/song for those desk warming
Post by: weirdgirlinkorea on May 29, 2012, 11:18:49 am
I've had a couple days of completely cancelled classes for school trips and sports day.  ;D
Title: Re: Funny video/song for those desk warming
Post by: LeandiPienaar on June 20, 2012, 08:36:17 am
This one was really funny.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIeHeJ0V4LY
Title: Re: Funny video/song for those desk warming
Post by: livzy on June 22, 2012, 07:02:21 am
This one was really funny.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIeHeJ0V4LY

That is genius, right on so many levels. Good find Leandi!
Title: Re: Funny video/song for those desk warming
Post by: kbbaby on June 24, 2012, 04:01:52 pm
haha this is funny, thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Funny video/song for those desk warming
Post by: calvin0416 on June 25, 2012, 08:16:27 pm
They should re-word it, "My English Room".  hehehe
Title: Hows the desk warming going?
Post by: bawaugh on July 24, 2012, 04:21:52 pm
With School holidays upon us Public school Teachers I wonder how the desk warming is going?

My Co teachers have been playing Scrabble and aside from some light lesson planning nothing much is going on. There are no lessons for the last 3 days of school. So there is only light lesson planning going on. The hard core desk warming starts on Thursday.
Title: Re: Hows the desk warming going?
Post by: arosesg on July 25, 2012, 08:58:14 am
For people who answered "Don't tell anyone, but I'm not actually at work," I want to know: how do you get away with it?
Title: Re: Hows the desk warming going?
Post by: profmiscreant on July 26, 2012, 07:48:29 am
The principal/vice principal/head teacher tells you to leave and not get into any trouble until after 430. I used to be in that boat, and it was sweet. Things changed last year though, but I don't mind desk warming all that much. Took an online class last summer, and wrote a book last winter in my spare time!
Title: Re: Hows the desk warming going?
Post by: papayapie on July 26, 2012, 08:02:43 am
My desk warming hasn't started yet. I'm waiting for the bomb to drop that I can't go home early after camp next week, so I'll be desk warming from 12:10 to 4:40. I also have to desk warm for three days after my vacation. I don't mind, though. They're paying me to study for the LSAT and re-watch Lost for the 9th time.

Profmiscreant - I am actually planning on working on a book during winter break as well! I started it before I moved to Korea and haven't had the chance to write much since, so I'm actually excited for that.
Title: Re: Hows the desk warming going?
Post by: RogueFishFood on July 26, 2012, 12:54:57 pm
I love deskwarming! Much of my free time at home is spent watching tedtalks and surfing the internet anyway, so it's basically the same as what I'd do at home, with fewer naps (though not zero) and a lower electricity bill.
Title: Re: Hows the desk warming going?
Post by: Songwon on July 26, 2012, 01:06:33 pm
I have plenty of personal stuff to work on, so if the school wants to pay for my electricity usage while providing me a nice quite place to work with few distractions, I can deal with it.  On the other hand, the futility of the whole thing really gets to me.  I really can't stand doing things that have no point, and there is no point in me staying at school for almost five hours after camp ends.  I can't even really lesson plan since I don't know enough about what I'll be teaching next term and since I don't even know who my co-teacher will be - no sense planning stuff now when 3/4 of it might well change by the time I actually teach it. 
Title: Re: Hows the desk warming going?
Post by: JeremyC on July 26, 2012, 01:17:27 pm
I'm enjoying being paid a salary for looking at what I want on my computer and drinking coffee in a comfortable environment. Also being able to come into work totally hungover and not facing a single student or teacher (otherwise I only drink Friday and Saturday). I worked bloomin' hard this semester so I deserve to take a break for a few days.
Title: Re: Hows the desk warming going?
Post by: kake on July 26, 2012, 02:15:27 pm
I've only been in Korea about 2 weeks so it's all pretty new.  Find myself with a lot of computer time and NOTHING specific to do.  What exactly does the principal think I'm doing?
Title: Re: Hows the desk warming going?
Post by: bawaugh on July 26, 2012, 02:49:35 pm
I've only been in Korea about 2 weeks so it's all pretty new.  Find myself with a lot of computer time and NOTHING specific to do.  What exactly does the principal think I'm doing?

Your job.

 If there is no work that is his problem. Any way we work for the board of education, not the school he does not choose us, they did.

We may moan about desk warming, but do we want it stopped?
Title: Re: Hows the desk warming going?
Post by: Chicagohotdog on July 27, 2012, 07:56:34 am
I'm doing "vacation classes"...because we can't call them camps even though I was told to plan the same way that I did for camps which means movies and games...alright, I can do that...

There are about 4 days at the end of "vacation classes" before my vacation starts and I STILL don't know if I'll have to be at my desk for them or not...we'll see.

On the plus side, I've completely used to deskwarming.  I have no classes on Thursdays so I usually sit and plan those days anyway so I'm used to all of this.
Title: Re: Hows the desk warming going?
Post by: seanathon on July 27, 2012, 08:28:00 am
I only have 1 day (today) of deskwarming this summer. My main project today is to clean out the fridge and unplug/clean it. I have a box of Capri Sun, 4 frozen milkshakes, and a case of those little yogurts to go through. We just got a whole bunch of new DVDs delivered too so I think I'll put a few movies on.

I actually like being here during the day so I can utilize the AC since it's so hot this week.
Title: Re: Hows the desk warming going?
Post by: One Bomb on July 27, 2012, 11:02:57 am
Last day of desk warming today (only had to do 5 days) then I have about a month off.

Still, I don't actually mind it, to be honest, it usually encourages me to do something productive with my time.
Title: Re: Hows the desk warming going?
Post by: hilarity ensues on July 27, 2012, 12:58:24 pm
I agree with the AC-- it's too hot to actually do anything anyways, so I'm happy to be keeping cool and not paying for it.

If I didn't have AC here I would be at home, even if I'm technically supposed to be here. If I didn't have it in my summer classes I probably would have already snapped... I seriously do not understand why someone would even come to a voluntary summer English class if all they're going to do is complain, play on their cell phone, and speak Korean-- and not even switch to English when reading numbers.
Title: Re: Hows the desk warming going?
Post by: bawaugh on July 27, 2012, 01:27:03 pm
I agree with the AC-- it's too hot to actually do anything anyways, so I'm happy to be keeping cool and not paying for it.

If I didn't have AC here I would be at home, even if I'm technically supposed to be here. If I didn't have it in my summer classes I probably would have already snapped... I seriously do not understand why someone would even come to a voluntary summer English class if all they're going to do is complain, play on their cell phone, and speak Korean-- and not even switch to English when reading numbers.

It is likely that some parents send their kids to us for the free child care. After all they get little Kim/Park/Lee out of the house for 4 hours and out of their hair. Throw in the benefit of some English practice - I recall reading of one study that said basically that students learn something even with a bad teacher it's not a bad deal. It gets even better if your family is poor and can not afford the lessons. My co teacher said one reason kids go to Hagwons is to meet other kids otherwise who do they play with.

My mother was sent to bible study/Sunday school as a child partly because it was a cheap form of childcare, rather than being for her spiritual growth (although I imagine her folks also thought that a bit of moral education would not hurt).   
Title: Re: Hows the desk warming going?
Post by: flasyb on July 27, 2012, 01:28:16 pm
For people who answered "Don't tell anyone, but I'm not actually at work," I want to know: how do you get away with it?

Flasyb: So school finishes on the 20th but what about the week after. Do I have to come in?
CT: No, you have done a good job so I think you deserve a vacation.
Flasyb: What do you mean a good job?
CT: You have never been to hospital.

In context, I'm quitting 2 months early so my CT decided to just give me some vacation instead of making me go in and work (or not work) - he's currently teaching Summer classes himself. He's cool like that. I do stuff like plan camps at the drop of a hat, produce camp books, don't go to hospital, and I even did two weeks of after school classes (7pm - 9pm). In return, he gives me a Summer vacation that I may not be entitled to on account of me quitting early.

That said, I've never had to deskwarm. I usually just teach "camp" (Summer classes for my high school students) all Summer - I did 5.5 weeks of camps and Summer classes last year. I can come and go as I please when I'm not actually teaching.

I say can, I mean could because I'm now pinishee!
Title: Re: Hows the desk warming going?
Post by: ADB123 on August 23, 2012, 11:57:44 am
I find desk warming tiring. I see no point sitting at a desk with no work. Surfing the internet all day fries my brain.
Title: Re: Hows the desk warming going?
Post by: loswillyams on August 23, 2012, 12:29:04 pm
Scored some pages from "Convict Conditioning", so working in some body weight exercises and dynamic stretching throughout the day. Not too bad at all.
Title: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: bawaugh on August 24, 2012, 03:29:18 pm
I am interested to see if there are some good ideas to fill in my desk warming time.


I can think of


Lesson planning (When I get the mood)
Errands (got to visit hospital for the medical cert.)
Internet surfing
Trying to sleep at your desk (I don't feel like using the English classroom).
Watch YouTube
Study Korean (stopped that for a while)
Sew (my co teacher has been doing that and watching YouTube).
Read (2 unread English magazines)


What other things do people do during their exciting (and I know somebody is saying you have got to be kidding me) desk warming? I am looking for a few more ideas to fill up my time.
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: loswillyams on August 24, 2012, 03:38:52 pm
body weight exercises - check out convict conditioning.
stretch.
practice juggling or small sleight of hand magic tricks, things that involve coins and pens. you can use these talents to impress people when you're bored or the students.
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: chasmmi on August 24, 2012, 03:51:54 pm
Write a book
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: 0mnslnd on August 25, 2012, 05:26:41 am
Play "desk warm prison break".

How to play:

1.)Walk around in the school area and identify all the cctv cameras.
2.) Write down and memorize the number plates of the people at school who are potential police officers to you, e.g. vice-principal, main co-teacher, etc.
3.) Observe to see if there is anything else that can count in your favor -or against you as you plan your escape route.

Now...
4.)Depending on the circumstances... plan your escape route and for how long you are going to escape from school.

If you escape plan is successful for 2 hours or so, you are free to walk around in downtown/shop/play screen golf/ take pictures in the park/go home and do laundry.

Hint: If you have a car, NB: never park inside the school during vacation deskwarming.

You can be creative too. Every school is different. E.g, you could go to the office where most of the teachers pretend to work and be diligent(while they are actually doing internet shopping) and pretend to do something yourself, like printing something, for 5 minutes or so. Just to make sure they've seen you and that you "are there, at school." Then... leave!
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: pearlitaPP on August 25, 2012, 05:30:10 am
If you're thinking of going back to school / completing more certifications, you can study for your GREs/LSATs/MCAT, etc.  Boring, but a good idea!
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: unicornrustler on August 25, 2012, 09:38:57 am
www.mturk.com

It passes the time, and I've made around $60 so far while deskwarming. I usually average $4-$6 a day and spend maybe 60-90 minutes doing it.
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: bawaugh on August 25, 2012, 01:04:33 pm
Play "desk warm prison break".

How to play:

1.)Walk around in the school area and identify all the cctv cameras.
2.) Write down and memorize the number plates of the people at school who are potential police officers to you, e.g. vice-principal, main co-teacher, etc.
3.) Observe to see if there is anything else that can count in your favor -or against you as you plan your escape route.

Now...
4.)Depending on the circumstances... plan your escape route and for how long you are going to escape from school.

If you escape plan is successful for 2 hours or so, you are free to walk around in downtown/shop/play screen golf/ take pictures in the park/go home and do laundry.

Hint: If you have a car, NB: never park inside the school during vacation deskwarming.

You can be creative too. Every school is different. E.g, you could go to the office where most of the teachers pretend to work and be diligent(while they are actually doing internet shopping) and pretend to do something yourself, like printing something, for 5 minutes or so. Just to make sure they've seen you and that you "are there, at school." Then... leave!


Love it. :) :) [size=78%] But I think I will be a good little teacher and stay at school. [/size]
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: bawaugh on August 25, 2012, 09:56:35 pm
Hint: If you have a car, NB: never park inside the school during vacation deskwarming.

I agree. If you try getting it through the door, you can easily scratch the paint or knock off the side view mirrors.


Thanks for pointing that out. A rather amusing typo. Visions of parking the car in my school corridor and getting it up the stairs come to my eyes. :D
Title: Alternative to desk warming
Post by: mkates on January 29, 2013, 11:57:39 pm
Informed that I would have a week of desk warming ahead of me, and only 2-3 other teachers in the school with me this week (not co-teachers, or English speaking), or any students I took some proactive measures.

Namely I advertised a 'third week' of 'camp-ish-ness'. This may only be appropriate or fitting for high school teachers (less likely to turn into a free baby sitting service that way).  Basically I told my students (all girls) that in this week they could come alone, or with friends, for an hour or 3 or 5 to 'hang out'.

They come at 10 (any later and we might not be there) and literally hang out. Plug in my computer to the projector and speakers. So far we've made brownies, watched a movie, played games - traditional Korean and 'Western' games, completed a massive puzzle, watched some of the best youtube videos of all time, learnt some basic steps from line dancing/jazz/k-pop/swing, asked each other ridiculous questions, played truth or dare, had a singing marathon (stole a teachers microphone) and played music videos with lyrics.

I didn't expect any students to come. In fact on the first day I was armed with a list of suggestions from fellow desk warmers of how to pass the 9-5 drag, and didn't even venture to the class room at the assigned time. After a student came to me, I walked into the room and alas there were 20 of them. To be fair today there was only 4, but tomorrow there should be 10.

For me personally this beats desk warming, provides an opportunity to get to know some of my students better (and vice-versa), is viewed by parents as free English time (viewed by me as please teach me awesome Korean words), and has altogether been a positive wonderful experience.

Just a thought!
Title: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: bawaugh on February 12, 2013, 01:19:11 pm
Desk Warming is looming again. The glorious spring break and Korean new year Tuesday!.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: livzy on February 12, 2013, 01:48:00 pm
I can't wait for desk warming! I love it, reading online about all of the things I can do outside of Korea, watching terrible programs about rich, spoilt teens that I become obsessed with, thinking about how unfair my life is compared to people getting rich with online schemes by the time they're 20 years old. But! at least I don't have to lift a finger for anyone else during these hours!! (or any other hours, for that matter)  8)
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: arosesg on February 12, 2013, 02:37:03 pm
A (tenth?) option for the survey would be "I'm officially on vacation part II and thanking my stars."
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: bawaugh on February 12, 2013, 02:51:00 pm
A (tenth?) option for the survey would be "I'm officially on vacation part II and thanking my stars."


Sorry there are already 10 options above. Good point though.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: auster on February 13, 2013, 09:40:41 am
I'm into my second week back and doing an odd mix of desk warming for a day then teaching for a few days, then desk warming again until Friday. I'm sure this mid-vacation interruption was shorter last year. A morning desk-warming is usually okay, but after lunch it's about endurance.

My only valid complaint is that I wish the school had a tolerable level of heating in my office - right now even my nose and ears are cold.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: Lurch on February 13, 2013, 10:54:14 am
I don't normally mind desk warming. I do today.

Backing my motorbike out the small yard this morning and some water runoff from the roof made the small, yet very steep hill just outside the gate into a solid patch of ice. Got the back tire on it and did a slow motion fall scrabbling for purchase the whole way. Bashed my knee good, but that pain went away. Worse is my back from picking the thing up in a hurried rage. Now here I sit with nothing to do at my desk, reeking of gasoline with an aching back, wearing my dirty coat because it's too cold to not wear it. I almost wish someone would just take offense at my appearance/smell and send me home already. If I could find my co-teacher, he'd let me go home, but I'm not just gonna take off, and for some reason he's making himself scarce these days.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: YoungMin on February 13, 2013, 11:28:18 am
I broke my mouse playing fly the copter. I'm now a keyboard specialist. Winning.  ;D
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: gclancy on February 14, 2013, 01:18:12 pm
It's the constantly thinking about cigarettes that does me in, though it's only relatable to smokers, I guess.

Other than that, I love it. I read, browse, watch a movie or even take a nap. What's not to love?
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: papayapie on February 14, 2013, 01:31:42 pm
What's not to love: your co-teacher sitting right next to you not allowing you to do any of those things (read, watch a movie, sleep).

I have to pretend to work, which might be harder than actually working, so maybe I should just work, but the thing is I'm only here for another month and therefore have no work to really do, so yeah.

SO. BORED.

Wish some fight would break out on Waygook. ENTERTAIN ME
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: confusedsafferinkorea on February 14, 2013, 01:38:49 pm
Well, not sure if you call this desk warming, but after lunch today all the teachers in my office decided to 'visit' the new school that one of the teachers is going to next semester. By 'visit' I mean they will accompany her there and then go home.

Message to me, 'We are all going to .......'s school, the vice principal gave us permission, sorry but foreign teachers may not go, see you tomorrow, have a nice day'

 :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Makes me feel so good.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: Jaunter on February 14, 2013, 02:07:43 pm
Desk warming?! The person in charge of me at my school is going to help me space out my sick days so that I only have to go in one day for the next two weeks, all without needing a pesky doctor's note. Have I mentioned how awesome my school is?
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: FalseFace on February 14, 2013, 02:15:40 pm
Besides going nuts on these boards, I've been looking for jobs and studying Japanese.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: jenglish on February 14, 2013, 02:23:07 pm
Trying to come up with even wackier threads.

Thinking about starting:

"What's worse--Korean food, eyelid surgery, or circumcision?"
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: alyssa.callahan on February 14, 2013, 02:26:53 pm
From tomorrow, I've only got two more weeks in Korea, so I'm mostly just spending my time writing up Letters of Recommendation for my co-teacher to sign and filling out all the pension forms.  It still leaves enough time to surf Tumblr, stalk Facebook and watch Youtube videos, thank God.   :wink:
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: RachelTibai on February 14, 2013, 02:28:09 pm
Knitting a scarf and bored out of my mind! Wish I had something to do.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: tokkibunni on February 14, 2013, 02:32:02 pm
Studying for the GRE, but in a frozen room........just isn't working for me right now. Can barely move my fingers to type. LOL.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: arosesg on February 14, 2013, 02:46:31 pm
Great ways to pass the time while learning:

https://www.khanacademy.org/ (https://www.khanacademy.org/)

http://www.ted.com/ (http://www.ted.com/)

https://www.coursera.org/ (https://www.coursera.org/)
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: sweetjane2011 on February 14, 2013, 02:53:09 pm
Napped, read, planned my vacation, ate a load of M&Ms...napped some more. Luckily tomorrow is my last day desk warming  :laugh:
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: Orkblut on February 14, 2013, 02:55:51 pm
My 'English Zone' is nice and secluded, warm and with surround sound so I blast music insanely loud or watch movies on the big TV. The main issue is getting food though, there's a CU Mart nearby and that's about it, a bosintang joint, a 'Chinese' place and a dwaeji guk bap with stray dogs always hanging around outside it - I don't count those places as 'food I want to actually eat' though.

With all this deskwarming, I've been thinking that I'd make a pretty good security guard in the future. Korea has basically chosen my career path for me.

Thank you, Korea.

Thorea.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: mycena on February 14, 2013, 03:02:50 pm
I'm on my 7th consecutive week of deskwarming. So far, I've:
* Drank dozens of gallons of coffee
* Read most of the best science fiction books according to reddit
* Started pre-studying for my Master's degree
* Daydreamed about leaving Korea (3 more Weeks!)
* Spent entirely too much time on internet forums

Honestly though, it hasn't been so bad. The only part that sucks us that we aren't allowed to have computers, and browsing the Web on a phone screen gets annoying after awhile. Still, I do enjoy being paid for doing nothing. :P
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: confusedsafferinkorea on February 14, 2013, 03:22:41 pm
I'm on my 7th consecutive week of deskwarming. So far, I've:
* Drank dozens of gallons of coffee
* Read most of the best science fiction books according to reddit
* Started pre-studying for my Master's degree
* Daydreamed about leaving Korea (3 more Weeks!)
* Spent entirely too much time on internet forums

Honestly though, it hasn't been so bad. The only part that sucks us that we aren't allowed to have computers, and browsing the Web on a phone screen gets annoying after awhile. Still, I do enjoy being paid for doing nothing. :P

7 weeks.... how to utilise your NET's effectively Korean style.

BOGGLES THE MIND.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: Hongsam on February 14, 2013, 03:30:11 pm
I'm on my 7th consecutive week of deskwarming. So far, I've:
* Drank dozens of gallons of coffee
* Read most of the best science fiction books according to reddit
* Started pre-studying for my Master's degree
* Daydreamed about leaving Korea (3 more Weeks!)
* Spent entirely too much time on internet forums

Honestly though, it hasn't been so bad. The only part that sucks us that we aren't allowed to have computers, and browsing the Web on a phone screen gets annoying after awhile. Still, I do enjoy being paid for doing nothing. :P

7 weeks.... how to utilise your NET's effectively Korean style.

BOGGLES THE MIND.

I was just about to say the same thing.

Mycena, that would have done my head in!
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: FalseFace on February 15, 2013, 09:02:31 am
Am I the only guy who sits in a bigger office where people choose not to sit on either side of me if they can help it?   :laugh:  It's just on the subway, but with people who actually KNOW you're not a threat! 
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: MWeb37 on February 15, 2013, 09:12:54 am
I think I would jump out our window from the 5th floor if I had to do this for 7 weeks straight, but I have co-teachers in the same office so I can't really watch movies or relax...

...Have you tried to?
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: tipani on February 15, 2013, 09:39:57 am
I would watch tv and listen to music but I work in the English Zone which is also the only classroom that is heated.  That means a ton of meetings are held in here while I cower at my desk.

But seriously, gotta love being paid to do essentially nothing.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: silkysmooth on February 15, 2013, 12:59:07 pm
I've been desk warming for the past four weeks. I spent my time reading countless e-books, watching movies, watching YouTube videos, Skyping with friends and family back home, Catching up with friends on Facebook and killing time on Waygook.

Don't get me wrong, in a way, it's great to be getting paid to do nothing, but deskwarming   really can make you an unproductive human being after a while. I've never felt so lazy as I do when I'm made to sit at a desk for hours on end essentially doing nothing. Luckily, my deskwarming will come to an end in roughly three hours, as this is my final day of work and I'll be departing this place for good on Monday morning.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: sweetjane2011 on February 15, 2013, 01:12:23 pm
I'm on my 7th consecutive week of deskwarming. So far, I've:
* Drank dozens of gallons of coffee
* Read most of the best science fiction books according to reddit
* Started pre-studying for my Master's degree
* Daydreamed about leaving Korea (3 more Weeks!)
* Spent entirely too much time on internet forums

Honestly though, it hasn't been so bad. The only part that sucks us that we aren't allowed to have computers, and browsing the Web on a phone screen gets annoying after awhile. Still, I do enjoy being paid for doing nothing. :P

Woaaaaah. Why have you been desk warming for so long?! That must be some kind of record surely??? And why don't you have a computer?

Anyhoo, today's my last day. Although most of the Korean staff have left, the kids have all left...yet I'm still here. Apparently I have a meeting soon...but with who? There's no one here!!! 
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: papayapie on February 15, 2013, 02:02:01 pm
I am starting to lose my mind.

I stared out the window today at our empty school field for almost an hour.

I'd rather teach sixth graders than deskwarm like this.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: chuck2657 on February 15, 2013, 02:22:37 pm
I am starting to lose my mind.

I stared out the window today at our empty school field for almost an hour.

I'd rather teach sixth graders than deskwarm like this.

We'll see if you still feel like that when they return : P.

I've been having a lot of fun with coursera and edx lately.  I've done a few courses from MIT OCW before, but edx and coursera both seem far more polished.  That and...well MIT CS and engineering courses are hard : (.  I find the professors from Stanford, Princeton, Berkeley and Harvard teach a more engaging (and ultimately easier to understand) lecture.  I'll be finishing up my computer science degree when I get back home, so it gives me a chance to brush up on things, and to try new electives and courses that I won't have time to take when I get back to the states.

I dislike the "timed" approach of the sites, but the material and course quality is actually quite good.  Well, as long as you stay away from the University of Toronto's classes (it has a far worse and less rigorous CS course than any other school I've encountered....how is this a globally ranked school o.O ?).  The UK and Australian courses obviously take a bit of a different approach than I'm used to, but the quality seems good.

Anyways, I'd highly encourage anyone who is interested to check them out.  Median salaries for actuaries, engineers and CS degrees range from 80-120 a year.  And with the possible exception of actuaries, hiring demand is quite good : ).
Title: Re: deskwarming and bored...anyone else?
Post by: Hongsam on February 18, 2013, 10:06:48 am
Totally bored, hence the increase in my posts!

Waiting for this weeks videos of my coursera course to be uploaded...
Title: Re: deskwarming and bored...anyone else?
Post by: travis1983 on February 18, 2013, 10:12:54 am
watch the movies anyway! they know we get bored. I am in the same boat. I just met one of my new coteachers, a man thank God (hopefully someone i can go to the sauna with or womething) the korean teachers play games too. its just natural. as long as you at least have a loose idea of your lessons you are cool. me...

1. facebook
2. youtube
3. movies2k.to
Title: Re: deskwarming and bored...anyone else?
Post by: cheezsteakwit on February 18, 2013, 10:43:42 am
I am luckily in my own English classroom , BUT I forgot my slippers & my portable heater so my toes are FROZE(n) !

This morning, I HAVE been productive though (in between surfing waygook & davesesl) by catching up on my TalktoMeinKorean.co m lessons - I listened to lesson 4.1 through 4.4.

I plan on listening to my Coursera.org videos after lunch, as I've been slacking on them recently and need to catch up.  OP, check out http://www.coursera.org

Maybe there's a free on-line course you might be interested in ??  A lot of them give you a certificate of completion when you complete them.

I also kill time at home on http://www.reddit.com

I usually watch a TV show / movie on piratenz.eu AND read / laugh at reddit.com at the same time.

You'll either thank me or curse me later for introducing you to reddit.com

It's a great time waster!   
 

   
Title: Re: deskwarming and bored...anyone else?
Post by: Hongsam on February 18, 2013, 10:46:59 am
I am luckily in my own English classroom , BUT I forgot my slippers & my portable heater so my toes are FROZE(n) !


Watch out for your toes! I got chilblains sitting in my freezing classroom in January!
Title: Deskwarming
Post by: rockiavelli on February 19, 2013, 03:16:06 pm
I've been lucky enough to get out of most of it in the last couple years at my two schools, so I've had to be creative the last two days as I sit here spinning thumbs.  What do you do while deskwarming?

Today, watch too many episodes of 'Nevermind the Buzzcocks' on youtube.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: FalseFace on February 19, 2013, 03:18:17 pm
bump for the multiple threads on the boards
Title: Re: Deskwarming
Post by: FalseFace on February 19, 2013, 03:18:33 pm
http://www.waygook.org/index.php/topic,50453.0.html
Title: Re: Deskwarming
Post by: waterfall12 on February 19, 2013, 03:23:52 pm
Watching NMTB continuously is actually very bad for you. I did that during the xmas break and became an absolute jerk to all my friends reflecting its sardonic and bitter humor. Use with care  :P
Title: Re: Deskwarming
Post by: rockiavelli on February 19, 2013, 03:29:27 pm
http://www.waygook.org/index.php/topic,50453.0.html

What's your point?  Similar topic, different discussion.  If the mods want to fold the threads, they will.  You're not sheriff of the internet, kemosabeh.

Watching NMTB continuously is actually very bad for you. I did that during the xmas break and became an absolute jerk to all my friends reflecting its sardonic and bitter humor. Use with care  :P

Most of my friend are inured to those sorts of behaviors.  It took a lot of work on my part to get them there.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: awise923 on February 19, 2013, 03:36:31 pm
I know I'm an odd one... but I'm kind of looking forward to deskwarming (although to be fair I haven't had any thus far, so I'll only have a week and a half... I might feel differently if I had to deskwarm for more than 3 weeks).  Sure I'd rather be on vacation but I'll be glad to have time to do the following at school and not have to do it at home:

1.  Study and do my homework for my MA TESOL degree
2.  Plan more interesting activities for the upcoming school year

Not to mention the endless entertainment... youtube, facebook, blogs, emailing ppl, travel sites, other country job boards, etc.

I love my students but I'm looking forward to a break from them so I can catch up on all of that stuff.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: TheEnergizer on February 19, 2013, 03:50:33 pm
It seriously turns me into a lethargic individual.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: mrbarryobama on February 19, 2013, 03:52:28 pm
I'm on my 7th consecutive week of deskwarming. So far, I've:
* Drank dozens of gallons of coffee
* Read most of the best science fiction books according to reddit
* Started pre-studying for my Master's degree
* Daydreamed about leaving Korea (3 more Weeks!)
* Spent entirely too much time on internet forums

Honestly though, it hasn't been so bad. The only part that sucks us that we aren't allowed to have computers, and browsing the Web on a phone screen gets annoying after awhile. Still, I do enjoy being paid for doing nothing. :P

7 weeks.... how to utilise your NET's effectively Korean style.

BOGGLES THE MIND.

And now they're laying off many of you. BOGGLES THE MIND.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: Jrong on February 19, 2013, 03:56:10 pm
I am starting to lose my mind.

I stared out the window today at our empty school field for almost an hour.

I'd rather teach sixth graders than deskwarm like this.
That's bad.

But I'll definitely trade with you.

I don't think you'd rather teach 6th graders if you were doing it for a private co where they are basically your boss and are completely belligerent little  :lipsrsealed:. No child going through puberty should be anyone's boss. When I leave I dream of going down the line and saying:
"
Susie: You're ugly.
Jenny: You're going to marry a Korean some day. He'll cheat on you after work then come home and beat you. Your life will suck.
Amy: You need a nose job.
Lucy: You're ugly too, but not as ugly as Susie.
Sally: You're dumb. After graduating, you will be selling yourself on the corner of the street outside of your home.
"
Title: Re: Deskwarming
Post by: hilarity ensues on February 19, 2013, 04:02:00 pm
http://www.philosophyexperiments.com/
Title: Re: Deskwarming
Post by: devanna on February 19, 2013, 04:04:42 pm
been watching danisnotonfire and amazingphil on youtube like an addict.
fanfiction, tumblr, twitter, facebook, god i have no life.
Title: Re: Deskwarming
Post by: Nivea on February 19, 2013, 04:11:37 pm
I would read fanfic, but I don't think I need 16 year old girls creeping up on me reading another trashy Lost Girl demon babyfic. I have a reputation to maintain, you know.

So its back to watching Coursera videos for me. And Facebooking of course.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: jaxije on February 19, 2013, 09:37:32 pm
Sooooo I'm thinking of coming to work in a track suit and working out in the school gym...
Title: Re: Deskwarming
Post by: MWeb37 on February 20, 2013, 09:06:23 am
Facebook, Waygook, Reddit.

Lather, Rinse, Repeat.
Title: Re: Deskwarming
Post by: MWeb37 on February 20, 2013, 09:19:19 am
has desk warming made anyone else feel exhausted by the end of the day?  After 8 hours of doing bugger all, I just feel so tired when I get home.  You would have thought I had been running around all day instead.

Yes! When things drag on mentally, they tend to drag physically as well. I've always been able to enjoy long periods of internet surfing, but the balance is way off for me at the moment.

It's the kind of thing that has made me excited to go to a hagwon where I'll always be on my toes! Never thought I'd say that.
Title: Re: Deskwarming
Post by: Frozencat99 on February 20, 2013, 09:23:29 am
I suppose it depends on how you feel about copyrights but... movies have gotten me through the period with a bit less exhaustion and stress. It's shown me what movies to buy when they come out, as well.
Title: Re: Deskwarming
Post by: tesoljon on February 20, 2013, 09:31:11 am
tumblr, Waygook, imgur.

Catching up on my US television shows.

I'm at the end of my contract with this school. No more camps or anything. There is absolutely no point for me to be here. I can't even prep for my next job because I haven't been to orientation yet to see the books or curriculum. So I'm trying to make it as blatantly obvious as possible that I'm not doing anything productive.

Except that noone will notice since I'm the only one in my office.  >:(
Title: Re: Deskwarming
Post by: adamjay on February 20, 2013, 09:44:46 am
http://www.philosophyexperiments.com/

Thanks.  Worthy time-killer.  They really need a comment box though, so I can explain to them that all my beliefs are perfectly consistent and philosophy is in general a priori bs.
Title: Re: Deskwarming
Post by: msjet85 on February 20, 2013, 09:49:36 am
Deskwarming is the devil. I have been doing it for almost two weeks straight and I am getting delusional. Of course there is facebook, internet browsing, games, movies, reading books, and lucky for me I do homework for my Master's. BUT gosh I feel I would have so much energy if I were at home. By the time I get home I don't have much to do because I've watched everything I possibly could find at school. My contract begins with my new school soon, yet they won't let me go, even though I don't do anything. I even stopped eating lunch because I got tired of the disappointment  :sad: .
Title: Re: Deskwarming
Post by: YourFriendBen on February 20, 2013, 09:58:35 am
Now I am on my mid 4th week of desk warming, and I am going home after this contract finishes at the end of February.

I have a bunch of things to plan going back and also trying to sort my things here before I leave. It sounds like most of you guys have a positive attitude, but tesoljon, if you showed them that you have nothing to do, and they asked you to please work on a lesson curriculum or try to help plan something for the English classes even when you're gone, how upset or wishing you still were desk warming would you be?

Don't get me wrong, I do go a little nuts with the logic that if I have nothing to do, I still need to be here. But the alternative is not very attractive; not being paid for free time that I am basically given now -or- doing other busy work at work instead of my own personal errands and spending the time in what I want to do.

Money is not everything, but surely it makes the logic of desk warming freak'n fantastic! imo :D
Title: Re: Deskwarming
Post by: gtrain83 on February 20, 2013, 10:08:55 am
Desk warming? oh you mean when they leave me alone in the office to do all sorts of stupid bullshit work that doesn't matter and is a complete waste of time? If so then, yes, I am desk warming.

Title: Re: Deskwarming
Post by: krisnyc317 on February 20, 2013, 10:14:01 am
MONSTERFEST

I only have to desk warm this week, so this is fun. This is also why I don't have the internet at home. Keeps it from getting to repetitive

Youtube:
Dawn of the Dead, White Zombie, Noferatu, Plan 9 from outer space.

So glad I don't have any food here--or I would be FAT...
Title: Re: Deskwarming
Post by: Suza on February 20, 2013, 10:19:14 am
Now I am on my mid 4th week of desk warming, and I am going home after this contract finishes at the end of February.

4th week? Fair play! I'm on my 3rd day and it bores me.

I'm in the same situation, I'm leaving Korea in a few weeks. I'm spending my time researching the places I'm going to. Got a 4 day stop over in Dubai on the way home, then a 1 month train trip from Berlin to Thessaloniki through Eastern Europe.

Already got work lined up for June, and I'm applying for teaching jobs that will take me elsewhere come September. 

And then sit off and watch stuff. Started watching Touch recently, quite decent.

Title: Re: Deskwarming
Post by: YourFriendBen on February 20, 2013, 10:32:17 am
Nice, yeah for me re entry of the US I am planning to visit my friend first in

Hawaii
Alaska
California
Texas
Florida
New York
then Delaware

lots of planning/daydreaming, looking on the internet of places to see, all the while settling up my things here.

btw I have some lonely planets of Europe, though a 2007 editions.
Dubai... 4 days is a lot imo, and guesthouses are bit pricey. imo make it 2 or 3 days unless you are visiting someone. I went during ramadan and boy was it the epitome of muslim culture. ...that's not what makes me suggest 2 days though, it's just that you can see the main landmarks and shopping mall in 2 days, and after that you need lots of moolah to do anything fun
Title: Re: Deskwarming
Post by: Suza on February 20, 2013, 10:38:45 am
Making plans for trips is the best thing to do during desk warming. Thinking of far away lands!

I have the Eastern Europe LP, cheers tho!

It's actually 3 full days I'll be in Dubai for. I generally fly Emirates or Qatar back to the UK, this time I'm stopping over. I have two mates living in Dubai.
I'll be staying in a hotel whilst there, my mate is arranging it. We've already got tickets for the Burj, and will probably do a desert safari too, prefer a sand buggy to a camel tho! Had enough of camels after a trek in India.
I'm sure I can fill 3 days wondering about and sitting pool side, need it after this brutal winter!
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: waterfall12 on February 20, 2013, 11:00:44 am
Wikipedia the plot of movies you used to see as a kid but had really no idea what was going on at the time. Then you'll be like "Ahhhhhhh so THATS why that happened" etc.

IMO you could bang out a couple of days from that.  8)
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: arosesg on February 20, 2013, 11:03:59 am
Research your next vacation.

Learn.  Use Coursera, Khan Academy, etc.

Meditate.

Plan your next professional step.  Update your resume, look for jobs, study for the GRE, etc.

Or, there's always Reddit. 
Title: Re: Deskwarming
Post by: tesoljon on February 20, 2013, 11:14:16 am
...
I have a bunch of things to plan going back and also trying to sort my things here before I leave. It sounds like most of you guys have a positive attitude, but tesoljon, if you showed them that you have nothing to do, and they asked you to please work on a lesson curriculum or try to help plan something for the English classes even when you're gone, how upset or wishing you still were desk warming would you be?

Don't get me wrong, I do go a little nuts with the logic that if I have nothing to do, I still need to be here. But the alternative is not very attractive; not being paid for free time that I am basically given now -or- doing other busy work at work instead of my own personal errands and spending the time in what I want to do.
...

I actually don't think I would mind that much. At least I would be doing something useful. If I had re-signed, yeah, I'd be working on stuff for next year. But I wasn't re-signed and I'm not being replaced, so there's nothing to leave for the next teacher. I do have my own little projects to do and tasks to take care of, but nothing I can't do from home and nothing that has to do with the school.

Before coming to Korea, I waited tables in grad school. In that job, it made sense to stick around when it was slow--you never knew when a customer would come in. There are all sorts of jobs where you have to be available and being bored is a good thing (call centers, security guards, firefighters, etc.). This isn't one of those jobs.

Besides, I wouldn't be happy if I didn't have something to complain about.  :P
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: gamgokt on February 20, 2013, 11:19:36 am
If you do not like deskwarming and feel that the Koreans are to blame for it, then you would be wrong. A few years ago some people were bragging online about all the days off they got during vacation periods.

Some newbies caught wind of it and started to phone the POE's and complain because they weren't being given the same treatment (regardless fo the fact that some of us longtimers earned our extras).

The word came down that everyone had to deskwarm. So blame those newbies who complained. 
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: madison79 on February 20, 2013, 11:39:16 am
If you do not like deskwarming and feel that the Koreans are to blame for it, then you would be wrong. A few years ago some people were bragging online about all the days off they got during vacation periods.

Some newbies caught wind of it and started to phone the POE's and complain because they weren't being given the same treatment (regardless fo the fact that some of us longtimers earned our extras).

The word came down that everyone had to deskwarm. So blame those newbies who complained.

This is what I saw happen.  Back in 07 I read about teachers posting stuff like no deskwarming for me.  I know for a fact that EPIK checks local posting boards for that stuff so then POE just said enough and made it mandatory.
Foreigners ruined it for foreigners.  Enough the deskwarming with good book or some time to watch those tv shows you haven't kept up with. 
I bought a huge hard drive and put all of that stuff on it. 
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: Frozencat99 on February 20, 2013, 11:43:57 am
Oh - here come the seniority cards.
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: Suza on February 20, 2013, 12:05:05 pm
I spent part of my deskwarming morning eating Japanese take out, which is funny because my Korean co-teacher had to order it over the phone for me  :P

Quality!!
I spent my morning going thru 29 pages of a google search until I found a pair of the discontinued Dr Martens boots I wanted!
Result!!!!
Desk warming is ok, sometimes!
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: TheWB18 on February 20, 2013, 12:11:47 pm
Come on people, deskwarming is a great opportunity. You are being forced to sit somewhere and do *something* for 8 hours a day, for several weeks (I'm on week three). For me, this means I've:

* Written four stories and two articles, and revised two older ones for publication;
* Started taking a course on Yale Open Courses in prep for grad school;
* Listened to a dozen new albums in their entirety;
* Read a few journals I like cover to cover;
* Found or made materials for a new after school class;
* Did some supplemental planning for the curriculum I've been using;

If you're bored enough to be staring at the walls or crying, why? Are you incapable of planning activities for yourself? Do you think you're too dumb for self-improvement? Too lazy even to find a list of worthwhile movies or albums and go through them? This is weeks of outside-enforced self-discipline, it's great.
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: waterfall12 on February 21, 2013, 08:37:15 am
http://www.empireonline.com/features/documentaries-that-will-scare-the-hell-out-of-you/p1

if you find yourself stuck you could do a lot worse than watch any one of these

 :afro:
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: stemarty on February 21, 2013, 08:42:12 am
play in photoshop using royality free stock images.

making PDF files of student work.

Make a book for free and have it published and printed online: www.blurb.com
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: cheezsteakwit on February 21, 2013, 08:48:44 am
http://www.spreegames.com/

play some interesting, fun, educational on-line games while finding some teaching ideas for your classes

Some really cool stuff here -  don't JUST look in the ESL section.
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: gracie.devine on February 21, 2013, 08:56:40 am
I've been updating my town's wikitravel information because before two weeks ago there was nothing written about it. I will have the official debut on waygook when I finish^^
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: korea20122012 on February 21, 2013, 09:40:17 am
Watch Korean movies and dramas with English subs.

http://www.dramacrazy.net
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: korea20122012 on February 21, 2013, 09:54:45 am
 >:(
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: livzy on February 21, 2013, 09:56:36 am
http://www.empireonline.com/features/documentaries-that-will-scare-the-hell-out-of-you/p1

if you find yourself stuck you could do a lot worse than watch any one of these

 :afro:

The descriptions for those scare-docs are funny, I particularly like the 11th hour one.
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: waterfall12 on February 21, 2013, 10:56:23 am
http://www.empireonline.com/features/documentaries-that-will-scare-the-hell-out-of-you/p1

if you find yourself stuck you could do a lot worse than watch any one of these

 :afro:

The descriptions for those scare-docs are funny, I particularly like the 11th hour one.

No way man, collapse all the way. Regardless of how batshit crazy he is, its very hard to tear your eyes away from the screen
Title: Re: Ideas for desk-warming
Post by: miljennifer on February 21, 2013, 11:35:32 am
mgoon.com for reliable streaming TV shows. I just started watching Downton Abbey season 1 and Modern Family.

For productive suggestions, get a jump start on lesson planning for the semester, make a semester plan, research lesson ideas or work on your Korean at talktomeinkorean.co m.

If you have a somewhat private space and some room, you could also work out or dance. Helps break up the hours of sitting at the desk...
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas
Post by: Frozencat99 on February 21, 2013, 11:41:40 pm
I do think its unfair to question the work ethic of people who haven't been lesson planning. For my self and others in my area, this week was when we first learned and decided if we would be teaching the same grades as last year. I learned later in the week that the textbooks wouldn't change (my school has always reinforced textbook primary, supplement you've covered the textbook material for the day... etc).

Since they haven't changed, the material won't change and, really, the only thing needed to be planned for is tweaking what was too difficult last year, replacing what didn't work and seeking new avenues to explore the material that was hard to understand. Hardly an arduous, week-long task. (I will be making a few phonics lessons to go with the speaking part of grade three lessons, though, because the lack of phonics work in the textbook is horrifying).
Title: Anyone being productive with your Deskwarming time?
Post by: 83travelinman on February 26, 2013, 10:07:19 am
Are any of you out there actually planning lessons for the new school year? I’m not  Of course, I did teach myself to shuffle cards and some new card tricks. Thought I would spend some time learning more Korean, but TV shows sucked me in. AND, reading Waygook. What are you all doing?
Title: Re: Anyone being productive with your Deskwarming time?
Post by: TheWB18 on February 26, 2013, 10:16:15 am
I've been productive all month - writing, studying, paperwork, even a bit of lesson planning - but today I am dead bored, and only 3 hours into the day. It's gonna be a long one.
Title: Re: Anyone being productive with your Deskwarming time?
Post by: papayapie on February 26, 2013, 10:28:18 am
Not being productive in regards to teaching/work...but that's because I only have a month left and literally can't make myself care anymore.

I am, however, applying for some more law school scholarships and working on a novel I've been writing.
Title: Re: Anyone being productive with your Deskwarming time?
Post by: FalseFace on February 26, 2013, 12:11:07 pm
Does reading about the newly announced PS4 count?

No?

Ok then.  Nothing really.  I've been looking at jobs, deciding what to do after this contract ends in a month.
Title: Re: Anyone being productive with your Deskwarming time?
Post by: WestMeetsEast on February 26, 2013, 12:13:21 pm
Planned out all my lessons until the end of April [Introductionary/Icebreaker lessons and chapters 1 and 2 of my textbook].

Learned some Korean.
Title: Re: Anyone being productive with your Deskwarming time?
Post by: cutieturtle07 on February 26, 2013, 01:54:17 pm
Just finished a 150 hour TESOL on groupon for 69 dollars for job opportunities in Australia and Korea.

Have also been working on my "real" teaching certification that is being completed online.

Couldn't plan lessons because the books have changed for this coming school year and just got them in today. 

Have 6 weeks left and going home to travel to Mexico, Australia, and New Zealand for the summer. My mind is at home. Not at work.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: hwana on February 28, 2013, 02:29:42 pm
I just bumped into the principal in the hallway and our conversation went like this:

Principal: Oh, hello! I didn't expect to see you here today
Me: Yes, I've been here every day
Principal: Really? Don't you have somewhere better to go?
Me (laughing): Well I'd like to, but I have to be in school
Principal (looking concerned): Have to?
Me: Yes
Principal: Why?
Me: I'm not sure. I can't take vacation now, though.
Principal: That's strange..

...and she walked off looking puzzled  ;D She's a very nice lady and to be fair I do all my contractual-related dealings with the VP, but this little exchange made me smile.
Title: Re: On your Marks, Get the Coffee set up, Desk Warm!
Post by: WestMeetsEast on February 28, 2013, 03:09:37 pm
I just bumped into the principal in the hallway and our conversation went like this:

Principal: Oh, hello! I didn't expect to see you here today
Me: Yes, I've been here every day
Principal: Really? Don't you have somewhere better to go?
Me (laughing): Well I'd like to, but I have to be in school
Principal (looking concerned): Have to?
Me: Yes
Principal: Why?
Me: I'm not sure. I can't take vacation now, though.
Principal: That's strange..

...and she walked off looking puzzled  ;D She's a very nice lady and to be fair I do all my contractual-related dealings with the VP, but this little exchange made me smile.

Should have convinced her to talk to the VP and maybe allow you to not deskwarm haha.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas and Rants
Post by: TheEnergizer on March 02, 2013, 01:37:00 am
IT'S FINALLY OVER.

School starts on Monday and it's back to teaching. So glad that it was a holiday today too.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas and Rants
Post by: newb on March 02, 2013, 07:10:21 am
Not enough.  I thinky I will pull a sicky on Monday, the first day of school. :P
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas and Rants
Post by: Dorozco on March 02, 2013, 09:17:28 am
I just finished my online MA TESOL program while deskwarming. I also looked into either a teacher's license or a PhD in teaching, I'm feeling the former would be good as other countries might like that.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas and Rants
Post by: WestMeetsEast on March 03, 2013, 10:20:33 am
My productiveness of deskwarming was ruined by a teacher coming in and informing me that my new textbooks have arrived at 2pm the last work day before the school term starts.  I am never lesson planning during deskwarming again.  No way.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas and Rants
Post by: sholee on March 05, 2013, 09:32:55 am
My productiveness of deskwarming was ruined by a teacher coming in and informing me that my new textbooks have arrived at 2pm the last work day before the school term starts.  I am never lesson planning during deskwarming again.  No way.

that's exactly my situation. I spent all of january and february planning lessons for the book we used last semester AFTER i asked my co teacher 3 times if she was sure the books weren't changing. The last week of my desk warming before the new term starts, she tells me they're using another set of new books for the new semester. I wanted to murder her. Never lesson planning like this ever again. 
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas and Rants
Post by: gtrain83 on March 05, 2013, 03:10:02 pm
And that is why I now lesson plan a week or maybe two before. "Oh make this for this lesson"....5 mins before class............"nah let's not use all this anymore I have stuff I found/made." :-(
Title: Desk Warming
Post by: mikeD on July 01, 2013, 09:33:31 am
So last Friday I did not have any classes because students were getting ready for exams. This week I do not have classes on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. I do have classes on Tuesday and Thursday because I'm at another school. Its Monday morning and already bored and lots more time to fill. I have two questions for people. Is this normal to desk warm so much and what are peoples experiences desk warming (frequency) and what do you do on those days. 
Title: Re: Desk Warming
Post by: Chicagohotdog on July 01, 2013, 10:23:17 am
So last Friday I did not have any classes because students were getting ready for exams. This week I do not have classes on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. I do have classes on Tuesday and Thursday because I'm at another school. Its Monday morning and already bored and lots more time to fill. I have two questions for people. Is this normal to desk warm so much and what are peoples experiences desk warming (frequency) and what do you do on those days.

I am far from the norm - but I have at least one day a week that is deskwarming.  Also, leading up to exams and during exam time you will have a lot of deskwarming.  Bring books, watch youtube...whatever you like to pass the time.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas and Rants
Post by: keirdre on July 19, 2013, 09:06:19 am
Improve your grammar knowledge: http://ge.tt/5pkVkAm/v/0?c
Learn some interesting shit: https://www.coursera.org/
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas and Rants
Post by: taingray on July 19, 2013, 10:42:53 am
Has anyone ever had this happen during deskwarming time? My co-teacher thinks that during the week before camp, when I need to actually make the materials and stuff FOR camp, that I am absolutely required to have 20 hours of other work to do. The contract says that during vacations I can be asked to teach or go to teacher training up to 20 hours a week. She is interpreting this as, even if there are days with no camp and no training, I still need to be given 20 hours worth of other stuff to do. I basically told her no way, since I'll need to spend that one deskwarming week planning camp, and then the week after camp is my vacation. Gah.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas and Rants
Post by: chuck2657 on July 19, 2013, 02:50:51 pm
Has anyone ever had this happen during deskwarming time? My co-teacher thinks that during the week before camp, when I need to actually make the materials and stuff FOR camp, that I am absolutely required to have 20 hours of other work to do. The contract says that during vacations I can be asked to teach or go to teacher training up to 20 hours a week. She is interpreting this as, even if there are days with no camp and no training, I still need to be given 20 hours worth of other stuff to do. I basically told her no way, since I'll need to spend that one deskwarming week planning camp, and then the week after camp is my vacation. Gah.

She's probably just off-loaded her work.  Some KTs are quite adept at it.

I actually won't have a single desk-warming day during summer vacation, they scheduled camp for all the days, right up to the day before school starts.

There goes all of my plans for making a huge leap forward in online classes : /.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas and Rants
Post by: WestMeetsEast on July 19, 2013, 02:57:20 pm
During the entire summer vacation period starting next week I have 2 days when I'm 'deskwarming', 8 days when I have at least 1 class per day (^^), then 2 weeks vacation.  Start school again on August 19th.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas and Rants
Post by: taingray on July 19, 2013, 02:58:25 pm
Has anyone ever had this happen during deskwarming time? My co-teacher thinks that during the week before camp, when I need to actually make the materials and stuff FOR camp, that I am absolutely required to have 20 hours of other work to do. The contract says that during vacations I can be asked to teach or go to teacher training up to 20 hours a week. She is interpreting this as, even if there are days with no camp and no training, I still need to be given 20 hours worth of other stuff to do. I basically told her no way, since I'll need to spend that one deskwarming week planning camp, and then the week after camp is my vacation. Gah.

She's probably just off-loaded her work.  Some KTs are quite adept at it.

I actually won't have a single desk-warming day during summer vacation, they scheduled camp for all the days, right up to the day before school starts.

There goes all of my plans for making a huge leap forward in online classes : /.

Yeah, I think you're right that she just wants to dump her work on me. She's done it before, to me and to other Korean teachers. Whatevs; I'm gonna politely refuse/tell her to suck it. I only have a month left on this contract.
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas and Rants
Post by: Kyndo on July 19, 2013, 06:26:17 pm
Beautiful work ethic  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas and Rants
Post by: taingray on July 20, 2013, 01:06:24 pm
Beautiful work ethic  :rolleyes:

Sorry, but in this case, it has nothing to do with my work ethic. She has given me so much other nonsense work to do that I simply will not have the time to plan camp. Some examples of nonsense work: dumping a pile of Korean textbooks on my desk and demanding that I make up a spreadsheet/table comparing and contrasting them because SHE is in charge of choosing a new textbook next year (my Korean skills are limited to simple conversation and I was expected to review these books?!); expecting ME and my husband, who is Korean to figure out how to hire the new native teacher who will replace me, including navigating the Korean visa process for the new teacher and figuring out all the documents he needs, because she is too incompetent and lazy to do it herself and refuses to hire a recruiter; etc. The list goes on. I feel I have good reason to refuse to do this type of work for her. This woman is absurd.

In conclusion... get off your high horse.

Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas and Rants
Post by: Kyndo on July 20, 2013, 11:48:42 pm
Ah, well if the work is clearly outside of what your contract requires of you, then that's different.

I've read a lot of posts lately complaining about things that they most definitely *are* required to do, and that really irritates me; I apologize if this isn't the case with you.

And I like my high horse... the view is nice from up here...
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas and Rants
Post by: waterfall12 on July 22, 2013, 07:58:51 am
Anyone mind if I open these potato chips?
Title: Re: Desk Warming Ideas and Rants
Post by: taingray on July 22, 2013, 08:33:21 am
Ah, well if the work is clearly outside of what your contract requires of you, then that's different.

I've read a lot of posts lately complaining about things that they most definitely *are* required to do, and that really irritates me; I apologize if this isn't the case with you.

And I like my high horse... the view is nice from up here...

Ha, sorry I got a bit sassy there. I didn't mean to sound totally b*tchy; my co-t has just been irritating me so much recently with her random requests and demands that I immediately got a little too defensive. Sorry about that, and no hard feelings I hope!
Title: Desk warming
Post by: mikeD on September 30, 2013, 10:38:51 am
For those who are middle school teachers, what are you doing to preoccupy your time this week during exams? I work on my blog, chat a whole lot and walk around as much as possible. I also spend a little time on duolingo.com working on my French. What are you doing to prevent you from dying of boredom?
Title: Re: Desk warming
Post by: WestMeetsEast on September 30, 2013, 10:43:40 am
There's a huge post for this somewhere.

I'm working on my graduate school application, organizing an education event, lesson planning for after this week and will probably work on my Korean.

Tues/Wed is exams, Thurs = national holiday and Friday = sandwich school closure.
Title: Re: Desk warming
Post by: lee233 on September 30, 2013, 11:10:09 am
I watch Netflix, read through CNN, BBC, and Al Jazeera, go through buzz feed, message friends back home, grab coffee with some of my fellow teachers, do reasearch on teaching in the middle east, read my kindle, listen to audio books, listen to radio stations from home, play one of my myriad of phone apps, and review what I am doing in Japan over this long weekend. That about sums it up.
Title: Re: Desk warming
Post by: jwharrison30 on September 30, 2013, 11:16:40 am
I plot to take over the world.

I know you guys will have my back when the plan comes into fruition, wait for the signal...
Title: Re: Desk warming
Post by: morgainenyl on September 30, 2013, 11:41:22 am
You guys are lucky. Because my school started 4 days late, they pushed the exams back two weeks, to the 14th-16th. I'm also not getting the sandwich day off  :sad:

And I'll probably have to spend a fair amount of that time lesson planning too, but that's just cause I've been lazy lately.  :undecided:

Title: Re: Desk warming
Post by: Aqvm on September 30, 2013, 11:45:16 am
My school had exams last week. My school requires two teachers to administer the tests so I spent Wednesday and Friday standing around watching kids do math. Friday afternoon I had two regular classes after exams. The fun never ends around here.
Title: Worst deskwarming of all time?
Post by: gtrain83 on January 20, 2014, 08:36:08 am
My camp this week and next was pushed back until after the amazing and oh so needed 2 week february classes. So this week and next I am to deskwarm.

There is a slight problem in my eyes, however. That being that 80% of the schools windows and doors are missing. Yes, MISSING. They are installing new ones. I am in the teachers room to "work". Only two other teachers are here at the moment. (neither of them head teachers or my CoT's) I am unsure if I can go up to my office as all the doors on the upper floors are closed as there is construction going on. I also get to listen to all sorts of cutting, drilling, bangning, etc. I can't access my network folder as it is tied to my coT computer. I have nothing to really do down here. Then, to top it off, it is freezing in here and there is no heat. (surprise!!!!!!)

I am hoping this snow gets into all the hallways and classrooms and causes such decay from water/moisutre they have to bulldoze the school in the next couple months. A guy can dream right?

What is your worst deskwarming situation?
Title: Re: Worst deskwarming of all time?
Post by: confusedsafferinkorea on January 20, 2014, 09:22:36 am
Korean logic at its finest, make the evil foreigner come and deskwarm in a building with no doors and windows, makes you feel kind of special doesn't it?   :undecided:

Not a deskwarming story but a camp story. Last year this time they replaced all the classroom doors, the first day of camp they came and ripped out the doors, this took about 3 days to do for the entire school so I was trying to teach in a freezing classroom with no doors and had to compete with the banging and carting away of the smashed doors (yes, they smashed them to pieces, one doesn't want to have someone actually using perfectly good doors again, you know).

They then departed and I had to complete the camp for 3 weeks sans doors.

Actually, the doors they replaced were better than the one's we have now, again, logic at its finest.
Title: Re: Worst deskwarming of all time?
Post by: Mezoti97 on January 20, 2014, 10:38:50 am
Definitely last year at my rural public school where they never let me turn on the heater in my office. Needless to say, it was freezing cold whenever I was at school that whole winter.

During my first winter at my first public school in Korea several years ago, the cafeteria was undergoing renovations. Unfortunately, the cafeteria happened to be right under the English classroom/my office, so it was extremely noisy. I had to teach camp during all that noise, and had to deal with it for deskwarming after the camp finished. Not ideal, to say the least.
Title: Re: Worst deskwarming of all time?
Post by: EvilToast on January 20, 2014, 11:06:43 am
2 years ago, I came into my class to find that they'd taken out all the windows, and the class was a total mess (cement, ladders and various construction equipment everywhere). It was late Autumn, as well, and there was a construction worker busy with a hammer and drill outside the window... My CT, who was also the department head (and less than useless in English), was adamant that I teach in this class!
I got through the "lesson". At the end of the day (Friday), I asked her if the class would be in order by Monday. She said "Don't worry, not your job, cleaners will clean it weekend"....

On Monday, the class is the same. She sees this and runs to other teachers, who spend the first period helping me clean up the class. I notice that the other teachers are giving me the evil eye????
Later, I learn that the CT told the other teachers that she told me to make arrangements to have the class cleaned by Monday, and I didn't do it! As luck would have it, that b#*%# would start a 6-month training program on that day and she pulled a Houdini. So, I was stuck with weeks of bad vibes. Good times.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: waterfall12 on January 21, 2014, 02:29:59 pm
The perverts guide to ideology is a good doc to watch if youre bored this afternoon.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: weirdgirlinkorea on February 02, 2014, 09:49:12 pm
Do you all really hate desk warming?? It's a serious question. I ask because even though in my former school I never did it and that was great, now that I am at a hagwon, I am looking forward (after the hagwon) to the prospect of desk warming, it's not a vacation for sure but as of now I have absolutely no time to dedicate to my grad program which I fear I am failing. Had I been in a PS I know I would've had more time to dedicate to it. So desk warming vs. 26 hours a week of non-stop teaching year round? I'll take desk warming.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: moc-moc-a-moc! on February 03, 2014, 08:05:35 am
Do you all really hate desk warming?? It's a serious question. I ask because even though in my former school I never did it and that was great, now that I am at a hagwon, I am looking forward (after the hagwon) to the prospect of desk warming, it's not a vacation for sure but as of now I have absolutely no time to dedicate to my grad program which I fear I am failing. Had I been in a PS I know I would've had more time to dedicate to it. So desk warming vs. 26 hours a week of non-stop teaching year round? I'll take desk warming.

I've never understood the keenness of some people to complain about being paid to do nothing.

Oh no, my precious ~productivity~ is being held back by wacky Korean logic!

Don't act like otherwise you'd be out scaling Kilimanjaro. If you're that bored, read a book.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: gtrain83 on February 03, 2014, 12:28:19 pm
Do you all really hate desk warming?? It's a serious question. I ask because even though in my former school I never did it and that was great, now that I am at a hagwon, I am looking forward (after the hagwon) to the prospect of desk warming, it's not a vacation for sure but as of now I have absolutely no time to dedicate to my grad program which I fear I am failing. Had I been in a PS I know I would've had more time to dedicate to it. So desk warming vs. 26 hours a week of non-stop teaching year round? I'll take desk warming.

I've never understood the keenness of some people to complain about being paid to do nothing.

Oh no, my precious ~productivity~ is being held back by wacky Korean logic!

Don't act like otherwise you'd be out scaling Kilimanjaro. If you're that bored, read a book.

It's less about doing nothing than doing nothing while its 0 degrees inside the building, or when they are doing construction, or when you are there alone, or all the other dumb things that happen while doing it. Trust me I have no problem being paid to do nothing but at least let me do it in my apartment where I can be warm.

Plus, if we sign the same contract, why am I sitting at school freezing and alone while they are at home (or on extended vacation)?

Edit: by they I mean other NETs.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: moc-moc-a-moc! on February 03, 2014, 01:37:53 pm
Plus, if we sign the same contract, why am I sitting at school freezing and alone while they are at home (or on extended vacation)?

Edit: by they I mean other NETs.

Some people are luckier than others. All you accomplish by complaining is make it less likely the other people will be allowed to stay at home.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: gtrain83 on February 03, 2014, 01:51:39 pm
Plus, if we sign the same contract, why am I sitting at school freezing and alone while they are at home (or on extended vacation)?

Edit: by they I mean other NETs.

Some people are luckier than others. All you accomplish by complaining is make it less likely the other people will be allowed to stay at home.


I never said I complained to my MOE or school or anything. Complaining on here isn't going to change anything for those lucky people.

Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: redleader123 on February 03, 2014, 02:57:33 pm
I was lesson planning very hard for the first 2 days of my deskwarming... and as you can imagine, this was done at my computer. I was then sent a message on the 2nd day by my CT to say that the VP rang her to ask what I was doing. And I must work very hard. And that he's always watching me. Does anyone know what this means? Because if I'm already lesson planning I don't know what else I can do to "work hard"? Oh and my CT has bad terrible English and isn't here anyway to ask. I tought it was strange because I actually done nothing else except lesson plan.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: rdstockt9 on February 13, 2014, 01:39:35 pm
I cant  believe its still going on.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: sweetjane2011 on February 13, 2014, 03:14:05 pm
Just eaten a whole bag of cookies  :-[
Anyone else get the munchies when you're desk warming?!
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: johnny russian on February 13, 2014, 03:47:56 pm
Plus, if we sign the same contract, why am I sitting at school freezing and alone while they are at home (or on extended vacation)?

Edit: by they I mean other NETs.

if we sign the same contract why do i teach at 5 schools while other people only teach at 1?

if we sign the same contract why do i teach all 3 school levels while other people only teach 1?

if we sign the same contract why do i teach after school classes while other people don't?

if we sign the same contract why do i have a 1-room while some other people have 3-bedroom apartments?

if we sign the same contract why did i get placed out in the sticks in my province while other people got placed in the cities with all the conveniences that provides?

i could go on but I'm sure you get my point. the fact is that even though we sign the same contracts, everyone's individual situation differs because every school differs. if you're unhappy with deskwarming then take it up with your co-teacher or VP.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: johnny russian on February 13, 2014, 03:56:07 pm
Quote
I've never understood the keenness of some people to complain about being paid to do nothing.
In the past, I made bare attempts to deskwarm, but I always left the school by lunch and didn't come back. Finally, I stopped going in at all. Sure, once a co-teacher called me to see where I am, but what are they going to do? Fire me because I don't want to sit in an empty building and do nothing?

ha, i've done exactly the same thing this week. trudged through waist-high snow to get to the bus stop on Monday, took a bus ride of death across roads covered in 2-3 inches of ice, then trudged through more waist-deep snow to get into the school only to find that no-one was there but the admin lady. i sorted out some admin stuff i needed to do, replied to some emails, and then at lunch time i decided screw this, i'm going home. i haven't been back since. told the admin lady i was going home for lunch. turned out to be a week-long lunch  :laugh:

i've yet to get a phone call, kakao message, or anything from anyone at my school asking where i am. given the fact we've had over 1 meter of snow here i doubt they even know i haven't been in because i seriously doubt any of the other teachers have bothered to come in, especially since our school is back on vacation now after graduation last week.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: gtrain83 on February 14, 2014, 07:46:34 am
Plus, if we sign the same contract, why am I sitting at school freezing and alone while they are at home (or on extended vacation)?

Edit: by they I mean other NETs.

if we sign the same contract why do i teach at 5 schools while other people only teach at 1?

if we sign the same contract why do i teach all 3 school levels while other people only teach 1?

if we sign the same contract why do i teach after school classes while other people don't?

if we sign the same contract why do i have a 1-room while some other people have 3-bedroom apartments?

if we sign the same contract why did i get placed out in the sticks in my province while other people got placed in the cities with all the conveniences that provides?

i could go on but I'm sure you get my point. the fact is that even though we sign the same contracts, everyone's individual situation differs because every school differs. if you're unhappy with deskwarming then take it up with your co-teacher or VP.


I get all those points. I don't agree with them either. Thus, the MOE/POE's need to step up and actually regulate like they are supposed to. I didn't sign a contract with my school. I signed it with the OE. If they want everyone to do diff shiz then make us sign contracts with the schools. At least that was we would all know what we are getting into.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: BELTA on May 19, 2014, 01:27:47 pm
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Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: weigookin74 on November 20, 2014, 02:52:55 pm
Can't you watch a movie or something?  Download some pop that $h!t in there and you're good to go!
Title: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: ohitsgary on December 22, 2014, 11:12:53 am
So, I've just been told by my ct that I may have to desk warm during the spring vacation, which seems crazy. My school is currently undergoing some (bad) changes due to the new Principal and VP.

Has anyone experienced this in school or am I the only one?
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: country09 on December 22, 2014, 11:17:38 am
Crazy? Are you not allowed to use your vacation days then? You are given 10 days vacation. If you have already used them then there is nothing crazy about you having to work. It used to be a lot more relaxed back in the day but not anymore. Desk warm everyday you don't have camp or are on vacation is the norm now. You will find the occasional VP that will let you stay home but they are rare.

Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: Jet0716 on December 22, 2014, 11:24:42 am
Yha it happens.  My school has me teach a 4 hour English camp and then just chill out.  So i normally take a long lunch break and then head up to the English room, which only i use, and watch movies or play video games.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: drgenderpotato on December 22, 2014, 11:40:12 am
lol at people complaining about deskwarming.

I will trade you the lack of spring vacation that I am blessed with.

Please.

I will trade.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: YoungMin on December 22, 2014, 11:51:24 am
Thought this was standard protocol.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: jeremydc808 on December 22, 2014, 11:56:52 am
Stop complaining. These are the types of threads that make me wonder about people's (home country) work ethic.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: Pennypie on December 22, 2014, 12:03:11 pm
I'm in the same boat and like most here I thought deskwarming was the norm.

I have a few friends who are allowed to "work from home" and some that have to deskwarm. I heard that back in the day lots of people complained so they made it standard (or tried) that everyone had to work.

I'm not too fussed, i'd probably just be watching movies and napping at home anyway so might as well do it with school's electricity and not mine  ;D look on the bright side OP. Do a course or something online...
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: englishrose on December 22, 2014, 12:03:37 pm
Stop complaining. These are the types of threads that make me wonder about people's (home country) work ethic.

People in my home country aren't required to come in and do naff all for a couple of weeks. Teachers are trusted to do the work they need to do in the vacation.

Personally I loathe deskwarming but I am aware that too much whining might result in being given something to do. Experience suggests it won't anything remotely worthwhile.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: Chicagohotdog on December 22, 2014, 12:04:27 pm
Thought this was standard protocol.

It is.

I guess OP just got lucky and was given the time off previously, but most teachers spend Spring Vacation deskwarming.  I feel like it is a plot to make you look forward to the beginning of the new school year for something to do.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: Mstrom on December 22, 2014, 12:07:50 pm
"I have to go to work when there is no work for me to do and I'm still getting paid! I'm going to sit here and complain about it on the internet instead of doing something productive with my free work time like study a new language or subject, improve my skills or work on personal projects. Woe is me."
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: Morfee on December 22, 2014, 12:10:36 pm
Thought this was standard protocol.

It is.

I guess OP just got lucky and was given the time off previously, but most teachers spend Spring Vacation deskwarming.  I feel like it is a plot to make you look forward to the beginning of the new school year for something to do.

It's because some people had to do 1-2 weeks of holiday camps in the winter/summer vacation period, and others didn't. Those that did have 'extra' work to do inundated EPIK and the POEs with phonecalls and emails crying about how bad their situation was compared to X, Y and Z persons who were off skiiing/in Thailand/etc.

EPIK and the education offices got tired and made the rules rigid and strict - You get 18/20 days off a year, that's it. Rest will be in school and to hell with the fact that you have nothing to do.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: ChickenLegsMcGee on December 22, 2014, 12:14:07 pm
This is on the same level as the other thread about cold, "horrible working conditions". It amazes me how little (in this case, VERY little) research people do before they start a new job. I think 99% of posts you'd find about teaching in Korea talks about deskwarming.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: ohitsgary on December 22, 2014, 12:37:02 pm
This is on the same level as the other thread about cold, "horrible working conditions". It amazes me how little (in this case, VERY little) research people do before they start a new job. I think 99% of posts you'd find about teaching in Korea talks about deskwarming.
Mr Tang, I was comparing my current situation with the one I had last year.

Thought this was standard protocol.

It is.

I guess OP just got lucky and was given the time off previously, but most teachers spend Spring Vacation deskwarming.  I feel like it is a plot to make you look forward to the beginning of the new school year for something to do.

Right.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: Rumbledy Hump on December 22, 2014, 12:42:41 pm
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Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: baphomet on December 22, 2014, 12:56:34 pm
Everyone who complains about desk warming needs to shut up.  You literally get paid to do nothing.  Deal with it
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: ConservativeCat on December 22, 2014, 12:57:12 pm
I was bummed at first when I heard about the desk warming - but truly, it isn't so bad. I'm actually looking forward to it now. It's a good chance to bone up on my Korean, get my lesson planning out of the way for the rest of the school year and, worse comes to worse, I can just play a game on my laptop.

Steam winter sale and all.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: ChrisKorea on December 22, 2014, 01:06:35 pm
Everyone who complains about desk warming needs to shut up.  You literally get paid to do nothing.  Deal with it

This is absolutely right. But today, oh my God, all my classes are cancelled and I forgot my personal computer for writing. Why can't I just go home?! I know, I'm being paid, but sometimes it's too much.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: orangeman on December 22, 2014, 01:07:08 pm
Also note that lunar new year will eat 3 of those 10 days (Feb 18-20). 

Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: jeremydc808 on December 22, 2014, 01:12:03 pm
Everyone who complains about desk warming needs to shut up.  You literally get paid to do nothing.  Deal with it

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Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: kimallow on December 22, 2014, 01:22:26 pm
I deskwarmed last Spring break, and basically just sat in my pjs and watched movies all day because I was the only one at school. This year, the new principal is making me teach camp those days. I would take deskwarming any day over more camp days.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: ChickenLegsMcGee on December 22, 2014, 01:30:49 pm
Everyone who complains about desk warming needs to shut up.  You literally get paid to do nothing.  Deal with it

This is absolutely right. But today, oh my God, all my classes are cancelled and I forgot my personal computer for writing. Why can't I just go home?! I know, I'm being paid, but sometimes it's too much.

As you've agreed with the post above you, you should follow it's advice. You need to shut up.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: Mr C on December 22, 2014, 01:31:42 pm
Stop complaining. These are the types of threads that make me wonder about people's (home country) work ethic.

People in my home country aren't required to come in and do naff all for a couple of weeks. Teachers are trusted to do the work they need to do in the vacation.
Hmmm.  That may be true where you come from, but certainly not the case for American teachers.  We are neither "trusted" nor expected to work during our vacation. The only exception, really, is people who take coursework in summer school to keep their cert. current.   Most teacher contracts are "nine-month"; administrators aree often "eleven-month".

Generally, school starts for teachers a week or so before it does for students so teachers can get their act together.  And that is time for which teachers in America are paid.  We don't work during the summer beecause we're not paid to.

That's how "deskwarming" is different--we are being paid.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: ajr30 on December 22, 2014, 01:44:54 pm
http://youtu.be/axkjkD0PcOU?t=22s

Edit: Also this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEgh8TUlpQc
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: khalavala on December 22, 2014, 01:54:41 pm
I deskwarmed last Spring break, and basically just sat in my pjs and watched movies all day because I was the only one at school. This year, the new principal is making me teach camp those days. I would take deskwarming any day over more camp days.

sounds super comfy. thanks for the idea (sitting in pjs I thinkk I'll buy myself hot chocolate to sip on), will use it if I get hit with deskwarming, and I probably will.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: ChrisKorea on December 22, 2014, 02:11:19 pm
Everyone who complains about desk warming needs to shut up.  You literally get paid to do nothing.  Deal with it

This is absolutely right. But today, oh my God, all my classes are cancelled and I forgot my personal computer for writing. Why can't I just go home?! I know, I'm being paid, but sometimes it's too much.

As you've agreed with the post above you, you should follow it's advice. You need to shut up.

Um, wow. Seeing as I know who you are that's a pretty stupid thing to say.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: englishrose on December 22, 2014, 02:13:07 pm
Stop complaining. These are the types of threads that make me wonder about people's (home country) work ethic.

People in my home country aren't required to come in and do naff all for a couple of weeks. Teachers are trusted to do the work they need to do in the vacation.
Hmmm.  That may be true where you come from, but certainly not the case for American teachers.  We are neither "trusted" nor expected to work during our vacation. The only exception, really, is people who take coursework in summer school to keep their cert. current.   Most teacher contracts are "nine-month"; administrators aree often "eleven-month".

Generally, school starts for teachers a week or so before it does for students so teachers can get their act together.  And that is time for which teachers in America are paid.  We don't work during the summer beecause we're not paid to.

That's how "deskwarming" is different--we are being paid.

Thanks, Mr C. I did not know how it worked in the US. In the UK teachers are paid year round. They are expected to prep next year's lesson and plough through a mountain of paperwork during the vacation.

As for deskwarming, I agree it is futile to complain about it and it's not a hardship. Then again, being required to wear a purple beanie hat would not be a hardship but it would still annoy me.

What is worth discussing is how deskwarming could be indicative of a wider problem. GEPIK/EPIK has been around for a while now but it still feels that they are not sure what to do with us. Surely it would not be beyond the wit of man to harmonize camps and set up meaningful training for the rest of the time. Ensure all NETs get to take their mandated leave in a specific time period.

I also don't buy the accepted wisdom that deskwarming was made mandatory for all after a few malcontents hassled higher ups out of jealousy. It doesn't make sense. Why would someone go to their POE to compare their situation to other teachers? It would be like complaining that teacher X got a nicer apartment than them with a bigger bed. There is nothing in the contract to back them up so why bother? Also, why would EPIK/GEPIK put out a blanket order simply because they don't want to  take a few calls and fob off some whiners?

Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: ChickenLegsMcGee on December 22, 2014, 02:23:33 pm
Everyone who complains about desk warming needs to shut up.  You literally get paid to do nothing.  Deal with it

This is absolutely right. But today, oh my God, all my classes are cancelled and I forgot my personal computer for writing. Why can't I just go home?! I know, I'm being paid, but sometimes it's too much.

As you've agreed with the post above you, you should follow it's advice. You need to shut up.

Um, wow. Seeing as I know who you are that's a pretty stupid thing to say.

You yourself agreed that "Everyone who complains about desk warming needs to shut up". I am simply agreeing with you about your agreement.

Knowing who I am does not make what I say "stupid". Since you know who I am, it means you most likely watched Carl Kwan Videos. Take his advice if not mine: "Don't complain on message boards, there are enough people who do that already".

If you want an alternative to your problem, apply for unpaid vacation.

If you are simply looking for advice on something to do with your time, learn some Korean, or do what I"m doing and learn some coding.

www.codecademy.com
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: ChrisKorea on December 22, 2014, 02:25:40 pm
Everyone who complains about desk warming needs to shut up.  You literally get paid to do nothing.  Deal with it

This is absolutely right. But today, oh my God, all my classes are cancelled and I forgot my personal computer for writing. Why can't I just go home?! I know, I'm being paid, but sometimes it's too much.

As you've agreed with the post above you, you should follow it's advice. You need to shut up.

Um, wow. Seeing as I know who you are that's a pretty stupid thing to say.

You yourself agreed that "Everyone who complains about desk warming needs to shut up". I am simply agreeing with you about your agreement.

Knowing who I am does not make what I say "stupid". Since you know who I am, it means you most likely watched Carl Kwan Videos. Take his advice if not mine: "Don't complain on message boards, there are enough people who do that already".

If you want an alternative to your problem, apply for unpaid vacation.

If you are simply looking for advice on something to do with your time, learn some Korean, or do what I"m doing and learn some coding.

www.codecademy.com

Would Carl Kwan approve of telling people to shut up on message boards?
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: jeremydc808 on December 22, 2014, 02:29:06 pm
I deskwarmed last Spring break, and basically just sat in my pjs and watched movies all day because I was the only one at school. This year, the new principal is making me teach camp those days. I would take deskwarming any day over more camp days.

sounds super comfy. thanks for the idea (sitting in pjs I thinkk I'll buy myself hot chocolate to sip on), will use it if I get hit with deskwarming, and I probably will.

Sarcasm or not, these are the types of things contributing to the country wide cutting of NETs.

Crap like this that I read makes me laugh at those of you who will get cut/not renewed.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: ChickenLegsMcGee on December 22, 2014, 02:44:06 pm
Would Carl Kwan approve of telling people to shut up on message boards?

Carl Kwan is the almighty. Kwanism states that he watches over us from above (north), making sure that at least the folks of JLP learns that complaining on message boards is a waste of time (and frankly, the reply on these threads a waste of time as well). Thereby we don't contribute to the growing mass of very pointless complaints already found here.

Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: Pennypie on December 22, 2014, 02:44:06 pm
Sarcasm or not, these are the types of things contributing to the country wide cutting of NETs.

Crap like this that I read makes me laugh at those of you who will get cut/not renewed.


Ok I have a genuine question - What do you think NETs should be doing during this time?

I haven't experienced it yet but i'm curious... it seems to me that teachers are left in their schools, alone, with nothing really to do other than whatever they decide to do themselves. So why not wear comfy clothes and have hot chocolate and watch films? (The pjs are probably a bit far!)

Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: ChrisKorea on December 22, 2014, 02:46:08 pm
Would Carl Kwan approve of telling people to shut up on message boards?

Carl Kwan is the almighty. Kwanism states that he watches over us from above (north), making sure that at least the folks of JLP learns that complaining on message boards is a waste of time (and frankly, the reply on these threads a waste of time as well). Thereby we don't contribute to the growing mass of very pointless complaints already found here.

You need to follow your own advice.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: ChickenLegsMcGee on December 22, 2014, 02:53:19 pm
Would Carl Kwan approve of telling people to shut up on message boards?

Carl Kwan is the almighty. Kwanism states that he watches over us from above (north), making sure that at least the folks of JLP learns that complaining on message boards is a waste of time (and frankly, the reply on these threads a waste of time as well). Thereby we don't contribute to the growing mass of very pointless complaints already found here.

You need to follow your own advice.

As I don't remember most of what I post, here's a project for you!

If you can find a lot of posts from me that shows me complaining about Korean lifestyle (especially about things that they already warned us about in the orientation we both took TOGETHER), then I'll gladly take my own advice and shut up.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: englishrose on December 22, 2014, 02:57:05 pm
I deskwarmed last Spring break, and basically just sat in my pjs and watched movies all day because I was the only one at school. This year, the new principal is making me teach camp those days. I would take deskwarming any day over more camp days.

sounds super comfy. thanks for the idea (sitting in pjs I thinkk I'll buy myself hot chocolate to sip on), will use it if I get hit with deskwarming, and I probably will.

Sarcasm or not, these are the types of things contributing to the country wide cutting of NETs.

Crap like this that I read makes me laugh at those of you who will get cut/not renewed.


Scene 1: A meeting room in a government building. Prominent Taegukgi and educational posters in background.

Boss man: Let's run through it one more time. Have we managed to allocate fund according to national directives on educational spending?

Flunky 1: Yes sir.

Boss man: Have we managed to reconcile these with the competing directives of our local masters who have a different ideological outlook?

Flunky 2: Yes sir.

Boss man: Have we carefully looked at what at the Korean teachers Union have told us as well as predicted any potential backlash from parents and concomitant political fallout?

Flunky 3: Yes sir.

Boss man: Have me managed to ensure a fair distribution of those resources in a way that would assist students from rural or deprived backgrounds?

Flunky 1 and 3: Yes sir

Boss man: Then it is done. Contact the affected schools to inform them of.........

Flunky 2 (looking up from smartphone with a shocked expression): Sir, sir! Some foreign teachers are joking around on an obscure website about what they will do during the upcoming vacation!

Boss man (staring into the distance): Cut. Them. All
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: khalavala on December 22, 2014, 02:57:38 pm
I deskwarmed last Spring break, and basically just sat in my pjs and watched movies all day because I was the only one at school. This year, the new principal is making me teach camp those days. I would take deskwarming any day over more camp days.

sounds super comfy. thanks for the idea (sitting in pjs I thinkk I'll buy myself hot chocolate to sip on), will use it if I get hit with deskwarming, and I probably will.

Sarcasm or not, these are the types of things contributing to the country wide cutting of NETs.

Crap like this that I read makes me laugh at those of you who will get cut/not renewed.

I will make sure to come in my suit and tie to an empty school so you won't laugh at me.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: ChrisKorea on December 22, 2014, 03:01:28 pm
Would Carl Kwan approve of telling people to shut up on message boards?

Carl Kwan is the almighty. Kwanism states that he watches over us from above (north), making sure that at least the folks of JLP learns that complaining on message boards is a waste of time (and frankly, the reply on these threads a waste of time as well). Thereby we don't contribute to the growing mass of very pointless complaints already found here.

You need to follow your own advice.

As I don't remember most of what I post, here's a project for you!

If you can find a lot of posts from me that shows me complaining about Korean lifestyle (especially about things that they already warned us about in the orientation we both took TOGETHER), then I'll gladly take my own advice and shut up.

It is bewildering that you would demonstrate such a bad attitude on a public message board towards someone who knows you personally and never showed you any animosity.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: Rumbledy Hump on December 22, 2014, 03:05:04 pm
I deskwarmed last Spring break, and basically just sat in my pjs and watched movies all day because I was the only one at school. This year, the new principal is making me teach camp those days. I would take deskwarming any day over more camp days.

sounds super comfy. thanks for the idea (sitting in pjs I thinkk I'll buy myself hot chocolate to sip on), will use it if I get hit with deskwarming, and I probably will.

Sarcasm or not, these are the types of things contributing to the country wide cutting of NETs.

Crap like this that I read makes me laugh at those of you who will get cut/not renewed.

I will make sure to come in my suit and tie to an empty school so you won't laugh at me.

The distance between pjs and a suit is vast. 
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: johnny russian on December 22, 2014, 03:08:03 pm
I deskwarmed last Spring break, and basically just sat in my pjs and watched movies all day because I was the only one at school. This year, the new principal is making me teach camp those days. I would take deskwarming any day over more camp days.

sounds super comfy. thanks for the idea (sitting in pjs I thinkk I'll buy myself hot chocolate to sip on), will use it if I get hit with deskwarming, and I probably will.

Sarcasm or not, these are the types of things contributing to the country wide cutting of NETs.

Crap like this that I read makes me laugh at those of you who will get cut/not renewed.

This is one of the most ignorant statements I've ever read on this board. Stuff like that has very little if nothing at all to do with NETs getting cut. Keep up with the times fella.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: khalavala on December 22, 2014, 03:11:49 pm
I deskwarmed last Spring break, and basically just sat in my pjs and watched movies all day because I was the only one at school. This year, the new principal is making me teach camp those days. I would take deskwarming any day over more camp days.

sounds super comfy. thanks for the idea (sitting in pjs I thinkk I'll buy myself hot chocolate to sip on), will use it if I get hit with deskwarming, and I probably will.

Sarcasm or not, these are the types of things contributing to the country wide cutting of NETs.

Crap like this that I read makes me laugh at those of you who will get cut/not renewed.

I will make sure to come in my suit and tie to an empty school so you won't laugh at me.

The distance between pjs and a suit is vast.

You're right, it is vast. But typically I wear a suit jacket, dress shirt, and pants. Tie is only once a week or so. So, taking some time when I'm not teaching any classes during deskwarming to wear more casual clothing sounds good. To say that someone like me dressing down is causing bad reputation among NETS is laughable and outright hyperbole.

For me PJs are track pants and a casual shirt.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: drgenderpotato on December 22, 2014, 03:22:19 pm
This thread got funny as hell.

Also, I agree with khalavalashammalamm adingdong, what we wear (provided it's neither dirty nor obscene) doesn't really matter. Hell, I'm the only teacher in my school who almost never wears jeans or track pants! For me to dress down, I'd basically have to wear stripper pasties and a clown nose, and it's waaaay too cold for that nonsense.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: ChickenLegsMcGee on December 22, 2014, 03:32:39 pm
This thread got funny as hell.

Also, I agree with khalavalashammalammadingdong, what we wear (provided it's neither dirty nor obscene) doesn't really matter. Hell, I'm the only teacher in my school who almost never wears jeans or track pants! For me to dress down, I'd basically have to wear stripper pasties and a clown nose, and it's waaaay too cold for that nonsense.

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: orangeman on December 22, 2014, 03:49:37 pm


I also don't buy the accepted wisdom that deskwarming was made mandatory for all after a few malcontents hassled higher ups out of jealousy. It doesn't make sense. Why would someone go to their POE to compare their situation to other teachers? It would be like complaining that teacher X got a nicer apartment than them with a bigger bed. There is nothing in the contract to back them up so why bother? Also, why would EPIK/GEPIK put out a blanket order simply because they don't want to  take a few calls and fob off some whiners?

Oh, you'd be surprised.  When I first started with SMOE it was completely different at every school.  Some had camps, some didn't, some deskwarmed, some were sent off to other cities to do overnight camps.  It was totally a crapshoot.  At my school at the time I had to do camps every day I was not on official vacation (and without Saturday classes back then breaks were much longer).  If we ran out of students they'd ship me off to another school for the mornings and then call my office to make sure I was back at my desk after lunch.  Then in the afternoons I had my usual afternoon classes, and any extra stuff they decided to throw my way (hey you, look after these kids for an hour while their moms go shopping).  I didn't have a budget, resources, co-teachers, or even electricity most days.  Just me and 25 screaming 1st and 2nd graders on my first day of camp.  Then the moms came in and demanded I spend time with each one of them talking about their kid EVERY DAY over lunch.  Never mind I didn't speak a word of Korean at the time. 

Meanwhile the NSET at the school next door had the entire break off.  Every break.  I remember walking to the subway once with her while she complained about not getting the exact dates of her 2 month winter break so airfares to Thailand might go up.  The horror! 

I knew life was unfair and that by complaining it would resolve nothing.  I expected to be doing what I was doing (camp) during breaks before I started (research!) so that didn't bother me.  I just didn't expect others to have it so easy. 

I knew people who had camps every day like me who made it a point to email and phone SMOE to complain.  Some would complain to their schools.  When we still had to do interviews for renewal three people at my group interview brought it up.  I don't know for sure if this is why they changed the rules, but it sure didn't help.  Unless your school is doing something illegal, you just shouldn't compare your situation to other places.  You're hired to teach 22 classes/week and be at school 8 hours a day except for holidays and vacation days.  Anything less than that is gravy. 

I did switch to another school where I'm at now which was soooooooo much more relaxed.  The teacher before me just laughed and assured me I'd have a great time (and I have).  But of course that was the same year SMOE started making 3 week camps mandatory and telling schools not to let us leave early.  My school is still cool, but it kind of irks me when I hear newbies whining on here about how they have to do camps.  Child, I put my time in and it's because of complainers like that that I don't get the rewards of that suffering today.  But my job is still pretty cool and camp is much better at this school (and with experience).  PS jobs are still going to hell in this country, but for now they're still not that bad.  If people don't want to deskwarm I'm sure their school would be more than happy to arrange extra classes or duties for them during that time.  Or they can shut up and watch movies in their pjs like others have suggested (as I said, often I didn't have electricity for camps or deskwarming.  One summer in particular I got a LOT of reading done, and lost some weight from sweating). 

Pro tip: if you commute to school, often they will be ok with you coming a bit later to miss rush hour.  At least my first (very strict) school was, and school's I've heard of.  Worth inquiring about, in a very informal friendly way of course.  Don't expect it. 
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: Mr C on December 23, 2014, 12:28:15 am
Stop complaining. These are the types of threads that make me wonder about people's (home country) work ethic.

People in my home country aren't required to come in and do naff all for a couple of weeks. Teachers are trusted to do the work they need to do in the vacation.
Hmmm.  That may be true where you come from, but certainly not the case for American teachers.  We are neither "trusted" nor expected to work during our vacation. The only exception, really, is people who take coursework in summer school to keep their cert. current.   Most teacher contracts are "nine-month"; administrators aree often "eleven-month".

Generally, school starts for teachers a week or so before it does for students so teachers can get their act together.  And that is time for which teachers in America are paid.  We don't work during the summer beecause we're not paid to.

That's how "deskwarming" is different--we are being paid.

Thanks, Mr C. I did not know how it worked in the US. In the UK teachers are paid year round. They are expected to prep next year's lesson and plough through a mountain of paperwork during the vacation.
But, if they're getting paid, and they have wortk to do, it isn't really "vacation", is it?  I mean, it may be for the students, but not for people getting paid ...
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As for deskwarming, I agree it is futile to complain about it and it's not a hardship. Then again, being required to wear a purple beanie hat would not be a hardship but it would still annoy me.
Some people talk about watching movies or sleeping (or even learning Korean), but last time I did deskwarming, I found I had plenty to do:  retooling materials for the new textbooks, organizing, finding/creating materials, improving strategies ... and I've been teaching since before some people on this board were born.
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What is worth discussing is how deskwarming could be indicative of a wider problem. GEPIK/EPIK has been around for a while now but it still feels that they are not sure what to do with us. Surely it would not be beyond the wit of man to harmonize camps and set up meaningful training for the rest of the time. Ensure all NETs get to take their mandated leave in a specific time period.
I agree with you 100%.  Until a couple of years ago, SMOE used to do "in-service" about twice a year which took us away from our classes for a day or two, while we sat around in February with not-a-damn-thing-to-do.
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I also don't buy the accepted wisdom that deskwarming was made mandatory for all after a few malcontents hassled higher ups out of jealousy. It doesn't make sense. Why would someone go to their POE to compare their situation to other teachers? It would be like complaining that teacher X got a nicer apartment than them with a bigger bed. There is nothing in the contract to back them up so why bother? Also, why would EPIK/GEPIK put out a blanket order simply because they don't want to  take a few calls and fob off some whiners?
Well, as one who has been here long enough to watch this develop, and to occasionally talk to some of the "decision-makers" and their minions, I can say that whining and moaning to <insert name> is exactly what has resulted in the iron-clad weeks of camp rule, deskwarming, etc.  Furthermore, I used to get paid the same "extra money" as Korean teachers for my camps.  But some people who didn't get this bonus complained, obviously hoping to get the money shifted their way too (even though it's a contractual obligation).  The upshot was, they still didn't get paid extra, but then neither did I. 

And that, children, is why you need to shut the folk up!
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: ChrisKorea on December 23, 2014, 05:51:47 am
This is off-topic:

I am all for people having any opinion they want, but why do people online use language like "shut up" and other mean-spirited ways of saying things, things they would never say to strangers if face-to-face? It demonstrates a lot of immaturity.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?
Post by: Rumbledy Hump on December 23, 2014, 07:25:47 am
This thread got funny as hell.

Also, I agree with khalavalashammalamm adingdong, what we wear (provided it's neither dirty nor obscene) doesn't really matter. Hell, I'm the only teacher in my school who almost never wears jeans or track pants! For me to dress down, I'd basically have to wear stripper pasties and a clown nose, and it's waaaay too cold for that nonsense.

You'd be surprised by how much warmth is afforded by a well made clown nose.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: Morfee on December 23, 2014, 08:20:14 am
This is off-topic:

I am all for people having any opinion they want, but why do people online use language like "shut up" and other mean-spirited ways of saying things, things they would never say to strangers if face-to-face? It demonstrates a lot of immaturity.

Keyboard warriors. People can hide behind a username and let their real thoughts and feelings out. Kinda a release from reality I guess. This forum in particular seems to have a lot of pent up rage and anti-Korean sentiment, which is strange given that they CHOSE to live here. Ho Hum.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: Mezoti97 on December 23, 2014, 08:31:29 am
I also don't buy the accepted wisdom that deskwarming was made mandatory for all after a few malcontents hassled higher ups out of jealousy. It doesn't make sense. Why would someone go to their POE to compare their situation to other teachers? It would be like complaining that teacher X got a nicer apartment than them with a bigger bed. There is nothing in the contract to back them up so why bother? Also, why would EPIK/GEPIK put out a blanket order simply because they don't want to  take a few calls and fob off some whiners?

When I first started teaching at a public school in Korea several years ago, I was told by the NET whom I was replacing that the MOE/POE where we worked for was, at that time, the only MOE/POE that required the NETs to deskwarm when the NETs are not on vacation or teaching camp classes. A friend of mine who came to teach at a public school at the same time as me but at a different MOE/POE never had to deskwarm, but she heard that her MOE/POE would start implementing the mandatory deskwarming rule after she left Korea (which was a few years after we started teaching in Korea), and now it's the norm pretty much everywhere (public school-wise in Korea). Also, a former coordinator who used to work at a MOE/POE confirmed to me that people (other NETs) complained about how some NETs didn't have to deskwarm while others did, hence how the deskwarming policy became the norm and now applies to pretty much all NETs at public schools in Korea.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: ChrisKorea on December 23, 2014, 09:31:26 am
This is off-topic:

I am all for people having any opinion they want, but why do people online use language like "shut up" and other mean-spirited ways of saying things, things they would never say to strangers if face-to-face? It demonstrates a lot of immaturity.

Keyboard warriors. People can hide behind a username and let their real thoughts and feelings out. Kinda a release from reality I guess. This forum in particular seems to have a lot of pent up rage and anti-Korean sentiment, which is strange given that they CHOSE to live here. Ho Hum.

I can understand people having pent-up rage and anti-Korean sentiment (after all, they may choose to live here because of the money even though they may hate other aspects of Korean culture), and I can even understand them needing to vent their frustrations in a forum where other like minded people can empathize with them. I vent here myself, from time to time, but I would like to think that for the most part, I can express my frustrations in a professional and productive manner. I don't try to shut people down or disrespect their opinions. I just don't think that a public message board for teachers is the place for the mean-spirited attitudes I have seen here.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: Morfee on December 23, 2014, 10:05:20 am
This is off-topic:

I am all for people having any opinion they want, but why do people online use language like "shut up" and other mean-spirited ways of saying things, things they would never say to strangers if face-to-face? It demonstrates a lot of immaturity.

Keyboard warriors. People can hide behind a username and let their real thoughts and feelings out. Kinda a release from reality I guess. This forum in particular seems to have a lot of pent up rage and anti-Korean sentiment, which is strange given that they CHOSE to live here. Ho Hum.

I can understand people having pent-up rage and anti-Korean sentiment (after all, they may choose to live here because of the money even though they may hate other aspects of Korean culture), and I can even understand them needing to vent their frustrations in a forum where other like minded people can empathize with them. I vent here myself, from time to time, but I would like to think that for the most part, I can express my frustrations in a professional and productive manner. I don't try to shut people down or disrespect their opinions. I just don't think that a public message board for teachers is the place for the mean-spirited attitudes I have seen here.

I hadn't thought of some of those points, you're probably right. I guess this might go to the heart of it though: We're all from very different background and have wildly different views on things like politics and culture, so sometimes that may be a contributing factor.

I do agree though, sometimes things just go way out of hand, threads get derailed completely on a small issue/point, and people take things personally and get very petty.

All the ex-pats from all nationalities I've met in my time here have been lovely. It's bizarre that the atmosphere is so different here.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: englishrose on December 23, 2014, 10:31:07 am
I also don't buy the accepted wisdom that deskwarming was made mandatory for all after a few malcontents hassled higher ups out of jealousy. It doesn't make sense. Why would someone go to their POE to compare their situation to other teachers? It would be like complaining that teacher X got a nicer apartment than them with a bigger bed. There is nothing in the contract to back them up so why bother? Also, why would EPIK/GEPIK put out a blanket order simply because they don't want to  take a few calls and fob off some whiners?

When I first started teaching at a public school in Korea several years ago, I was told by the NET whom I was replacing that the MOE/POE where we worked for was, at that time, the only MOE/POE that required the NETs to deskwarm when the NETs are not on vacation or teaching camp classes. A friend of mine who came to teach at a public school at the same time as me but at a different MOE/POE never had to deskwarm, but she heard that her MOE/POE would start implementing the mandatory deskwarming rule after she left Korea (which was a few years after we started teaching in Korea), and now it's the norm pretty much everywhere (public school-wise in Korea). Also, a former coordinator who used to work at a MOE/POE confirmed to me that people (other NETs) complained about how some NETs didn't have to deskwarm while others did, hence how the deskwarming policy became the norm and now applies to pretty much all NETs at public schools in Korea.

That is really a tragic state of affairs for all concerned. Adults actually whined about the fact that others had perks and adults responded by taking all the perks. It all boils down to me having to deskwarm because both NETs and Korean officials have missed some developmental stage in their lives.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: gagevt on January 02, 2015, 09:37:40 am
I also don't buy the accepted wisdom that deskwarming was made mandatory for all after a few malcontents hassled higher ups out of jealousy. It doesn't make sense. Why would someone go to their POE to compare their situation to other teachers? It would be like complaining that teacher X got a nicer apartment than them with a bigger bed. There is nothing in the contract to back them up so why bother? Also, why would EPIK/GEPIK put out a blanket order simply because they don't want to  take a few calls and fob off some whiners?

When I first started teaching at a public school in Korea several years ago, I was told by the NET whom I was replacing that the MOE/POE where we worked for was, at that time, the only MOE/POE that required the NETs to deskwarm when the NETs are not on vacation or teaching camp classes. A friend of mine who came to teach at a public school at the same time as me but at a different MOE/POE never had to deskwarm, but she heard that her MOE/POE would start implementing the mandatory deskwarming rule after she left Korea (which was a few years after we started teaching in Korea), and now it's the norm pretty much everywhere (public school-wise in Korea). Also, a former coordinator who used to work at a MOE/POE confirmed to me that people (other NETs) complained about how some NETs didn't have to deskwarm while others did, hence how the deskwarming policy became the norm and now applies to pretty much all NETs at public schools in Korea.

That is really a tragic state of affairs for all concerned. Adults actually whined about the fact that others had perks and adults responded by taking all the perks. It all boils down to me having to deskwarm because both NETs and Korean officials have missed some developmental stage in their lives.

Yes it's called the "snitches get stitches" phase.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: englishrose on January 02, 2015, 12:22:04 pm
Let's keep this thread going. Anger (and a couple of space heaters) keeps me warm.

I guess this is the cabin fever talking but I'm going to rant anyway. I want to share a little secret to all those posters who have come up with suggestions on how to make the best of our time in purgatory. To all those who tell us we could work on ourselves personally and professionally. To those that think that being paid to do nothing is something we should see as a blessing. The reason we are deskwarming is the same reason you are wrong. No one cares.

Of course I could plan every lesson for the coming year with customized materials. Once I have done that I could maybe learn sign language or how to read braille. Maybe I could read Camus and wonder what Spinoza would have made of him and then write an essay on that. I could practice simple magic tricks that would keep my kids focused and give me a neat attention grabber at parties. I could do some yoga or use my room as an ad hoc gym I could do all that and be a great teacher and human being but no one cares.

I could pluck all the hair on the left side of my body just to see if it gets colder when clothed. I could draw comic books where all the staff in my school meet sadistic ends. I could rig up a cot, become a party man and sleep it off at school. I could set up a fake facebook account and use it to stalk and harass some old flame of mine or just random strangers. I could drop a couple of peppermint teabags in a flask of vodka and get blasted all day. That would make me a slacker and and a first grade prick but no one cares.

This is why I hate deskwarming. It makes me aware how no one cares how well I do or if the students are learning. We are strippers deluding themselves that it's all about the dance moves and how acrobatic our pole moves are. Will anyone in the MOE ever read my large collection of lesson plans? No because no one cares. Will I be asked to attend regular training sessions then test on it. No because no one cares. Do I get frequently and randomly inspected by people who know what an English class should look like? No because no one cares. Do I even have to fill in some sort of yearly self assessment that would be mainly self aggrandizing bollocks anyway? No because no one cares.

Deskwarming is when we see what our real job description is. Not the one on recruiters' websites or job ads. He one the higher-ups have decided a long time ago. Show up and shut up. Make sure the parents know your name and think we have done something for their kids. Whatever you do don't bother us. We're busy.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: Davey on January 03, 2015, 04:58:08 am
Use this time to develop some sort of skill. I used the desk warming time to brush up on my Excel, VBA, and PowerPoint skills which helped me immensely for work when I returned home.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: kalique on January 30, 2015, 09:34:13 am
Did you know that deskwarming is actually the world's most dangerous job?
Sure, you could learn a new skill or do something productive, but here are the ways in which we are actually just fighting for our lives while deskwarming:  :wink:

http://kaleenaskaleidoscope.com/deskwarming-worlds-dangerous-job/
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: denimdaze on January 30, 2015, 09:42:12 am
I like to sit at my desk and read all the articles about how dangerous sitting is and how my chair is killing me.  :wink:

http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20110112/sitting-down-too-long-bad-health

http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/adult-health/expert-answers/sitting/faq-20058005

http://lifehacker.com/this-graphic-explains-all-the-health-hazards-of-sitting-1595834900

Seriously, though, I do get up and walk, stretch, jump, etc.
Title: Re: Desk-warming during spring vacation?!
Post by: jeremydc808 on January 30, 2015, 11:41:07 am
I also don't buy the accepted wisdom that deskwarming was made mandatory for all after a few malcontents hassled higher ups out of jealousy. It doesn't make sense. Why would someone go to their POE to compare their situation to other teachers? It would be like complaining that teacher X got a nicer apartment than them with a bigger bed. There is nothing in the contract to back them up so why bother? Also, why would EPIK/GEPIK put out a blanket order simply because they don't want to  take a few calls and fob off some whiners?

When I first started teaching at a public school in Korea several years ago, I was told by the NET whom I was replacing that the MOE/POE where we worked for was, at that time, the only MOE/POE that required the NETs to deskwarm when the NETs are not on vacation or teaching camp classes. A friend of mine who came to teach at a public school at the same time as me but at a different MOE/POE never had to deskwarm, but she heard that her MOE/POE would start implementing the mandatory deskwarming rule after she left Korea (which was a few years after we started teaching in Korea), and now it's the norm pretty much everywhere (public school-wise in Korea). Also, a former coordinator who used to work at a MOE/POE confirmed to me that people (other NETs) complained about how some NETs didn't have to deskwarm while others did, hence how the deskwarming policy became the norm and now applies to pretty much all NETs at public schools in Korea.

That is really a tragic state of affairs for all concerned. Adults actually whined about the fact that others had perks and adults responded by taking all the perks. It all boils down to me having to deskwarm because both NETs and Korean officials have missed some developmental stage in their lives.

Yes it's called the "snitches get stitches" phase.

There should be some type of standard within MOEs.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: MayorHaggar on January 30, 2015, 12:51:57 pm
Thank god for video games and space heaters.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: jeremydc808 on January 30, 2015, 01:00:59 pm
Thank god for video games and space heaters.

Thank god for these budget cuts  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: johnny russian on January 30, 2015, 02:40:02 pm
Thank god for video games and space heaters.

Thank god for these budget cuts  :laugh:

It's so amusing how you're such a try-hard and how you think you're so much smarter and better than everyone else on here when in reality, you're far from it.

I take it you  came to Korea with a healthy bottle of lube to  make it easier when you bend over every day?
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: jeremydc808 on January 30, 2015, 02:42:04 pm
Ouch........
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: emilprice on January 30, 2015, 04:20:14 pm
Let's keep this thread going. Anger (and a couple of space heaters) keeps me warm.

I guess this is the cabin fever talking but I'm going to rant anyway. I want to share a little secret to all those posters who have come up with suggestions on how to make the best of our time in purgatory. To all those who tell us we could work on ourselves personally and professionally. To those that think that being paid to do nothing is something we should see as a blessing. The reason we are deskwarming is the same reason you are wrong. No one cares.

Of course I could plan every lesson for the coming year with customized materials. Once I have done that I could maybe learn sign language or how to read braille. Maybe I could read Camus and wonder what Spinoza would have made of him and then write an essay on that. I could practice simple magic tricks that would keep my kids focused and give me a neat attention grabber at parties. I could do some yoga or use my room as an ad hoc gym I could do all that and be a great teacher and human being but no one cares.

I could pluck all the hair on the left side of my body just to see if it gets colder when clothed. I could draw comic books where all the staff in my school meet sadistic ends. I could rig up a cot, become a party man and sleep it off at school. I could set up a fake facebook account and use it to stalk and harass some old flame of mine or just random strangers. I could drop a couple of peppermint teabags in a flask of vodka and get blasted all day. That would make me a slacker and and a first grade prick but no one cares.

This is why I hate deskwarming. It makes me aware how no one cares how well I do or if the students are learning. We are strippers deluding themselves that it's all about the dance moves and how acrobatic our pole moves are. Will anyone in the MOE ever read my large collection of lesson plans? No because no one cares. Will I be asked to attend regular training sessions then test on it. No because no one cares. Do I get frequently and randomly inspected by people who know what an English class should look like? No because no one cares. Do I even have to fill in some sort of yearly self assessment that would be mainly self aggrandizing bollocks anyway? No because no one cares.

Deskwarming is when we see what our real job description is. Not the one on recruiters' websites or job ads. He one the higher-ups have decided a long time ago. Show up and shut up. Make sure the parents know your name and think we have done something for their kids. Whatever you do don't bother us. We're busy.

Most of the posts on this site just annoy me or make me face palm.

This one was golden. Absolute gold.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: khalavala on January 31, 2015, 12:48:36 am
I only had to desk warm for a few days so far. To update everyone on my clothing situation I wore business casual but I wore my winter coat over top because it was so cold. So I sat in the empty office in my suit jacket and dress shirt but covered up in the big coat zipped up. I hope I impressed someone and gave foreigners a good name.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: Chrism_D on January 31, 2015, 06:16:50 am
Hi all!

I am headed to Korea next month and was browsing this thread a little. It is incredibly lengthy so I only skimmed bits and pieces. That said, I have a question:

How much time (generally speaking) do you find yourself deskwarming? In late 2014 / early 2015 to keep it current.

I'll be at a public school in GOE and while I will work 9-5, I also have Elementary, Middle, and High schools to worry about. I get the feeling I won't be doing that much deskwarming.

Thanks!
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: MayorHaggar on January 31, 2015, 06:03:46 pm
Hi all!

I am headed to Korea next month and was browsing this thread a little. It is incredibly lengthy so I only skimmed bits and pieces. That said, I have a question:

How much time (generally speaking) do you find yourself deskwarming? In late 2014 / early 2015 to keep it current.

I'll be at a public school in GOE and while I will work 9-5, I also have Elementary, Middle, and High schools to worry about. I get the feeling I won't be doing that much deskwarming.

Thanks!

Totally depends on your school and the people who run it. You won't find out until you get here.

Basically schools here shut down for all of August and all of January. You will pretty definitely have to do camps, which last one or two weeks. And you'll have about two weeks of vacation in each. Any leftover days you'll have to deskwarm unless your school lets you go home early.

It's not bad and I don't get why people complain so much about it. You're getting paid to do nothing which is way better than having to do actual work or not getting paid. It's way better than doing an extra week of camp. Worst part is the lack of proper heating and a/c.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: Chrism_D on February 01, 2015, 04:00:40 pm
Thanks for the info, Mayor. And I am with you, I don't understand why people complain about it either.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: Mr C on February 02, 2015, 09:11:47 pm
This is off-topic:

I am all for people having any opinion they want, but why do people online use language like "shut up" and other mean-spirited ways of saying things, things they would never say to strangers if face-to-face? It demonstrates a lot of immaturity.
Uh, no.  I would just say that exactly as I wrote it, because, it was, you know, meant kind of as a (not-entirely) good-natured jibe.  That is, people who carp and whine absolutely need to do exactly what I said.  It doesn't advance them at all, and it's cost me thousands of dollars in lost wages over the years.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: ChrisKorea on February 03, 2015, 02:15:16 am
This is off-topic:

I am all for people having any opinion they want, but why do people online use language like "shut up" and other mean-spirited ways of saying things, things they would never say to strangers if face-to-face? It demonstrates a lot of immaturity.
Uh, no.  I would just say that exactly as I wrote it, because, it was, you know, meant kind of as a (not-entirely) good-natured jibe.  That is, people who carp and whine absolutely need to do exactly what I said.  It doesn't advance them at all, and it's cost me thousands of dollars in lost wages over the years.

You could have communicated the same information in a more professional manner (I am referring to your post in December, not your recent one above).
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: Pecan on February 03, 2015, 08:36:36 am
It's not bad and I don't get why people complain so much about it.
Yeah, I hear you.

It all began from people comparing their experiences, rather than recognizing and accepting that each school was unique and different.

Fortunately, our principals still have a bit of flexibility.

At our teachers' meeting yesterday, the cost of heating the school during the winter break was brought up (we got a huge bill)...it wasn't my doing, but a simple solution would be to NOT have classes during the coldest months of the year or require teachers to stay at school  :wink:
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: Mr C on February 03, 2015, 08:43:50 am
This is off-topic:

I am all for people having any opinion they want, but why do people online use language like "shut up" and other mean-spirited ways of saying things, things they would never say to strangers if face-to-face? It demonstrates a lot of immaturity.
Uh, no.  I would just say that exactly as I wrote it, because, it was, you know, meant kind of as a (not-entirely) good-natured jibe.  That is, people who carp and whine absolutely need to do exactly what I said.  It doesn't advance them at all, and it's cost me thousands of dollars in lost wages over the years.

You could have communicated the same information in a more professional manner (I am referring to your post in December, not your recent one above).
Well, if you're the professionalism police, you've missed quite a lot.
Title: Re: The Official Deskwarming Thread
Post by: ChrisKorea on February 09, 2015, 08:34:11 am
This is off-topic:

I am all for people having any opinion they want, but why do people online use language like "shut up" and other mean-spirited ways of saying things, things they would never say to strangers if face-to-face? It demonstrates a lot of immaturity.
Uh, no.  I would just say that exactly as I wrote it, because, it was, you know, meant kind of as a (not-entirely) good-natured jibe.  That is, people who carp and whine absolutely need to do exactly what I said.  It doesn't advance them at all, and it's cost me thousands of dollars in lost wages over the years.

You could have communicated the same information in a more professional manner (I am referring to your post in December, not your recent one above).
Well, if you're the professionalism police, you've missed quite a lot.

I merely commented on the language I experienced in this thread.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread
Post by: Mistaloot on February 10, 2015, 08:38:49 am
I'm in the same position.  Hasn't been as long as you but I'm so bored!  I have to pretend I'm busy all the time as well as I'm in a big office with about 40 other teachers and the VP.  I'm starting to claw at the walls, I have run out of ways to look busy!

3 more weeks and I'm gone
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread
Post by: ChrisKorea on February 10, 2015, 08:41:11 am
It sucks that you have to look busy. I can pretty much do what I want and it definitely makes for a better deskwarming experience. What exactly do you do to look busy?
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread
Post by: country09 on February 10, 2015, 08:45:48 am
It sucks that you have to look busy. I can pretty much do what I want and it definitely makes for a better deskwarming experience. What exactly do you do to look busy?

Luckily, since nobody here knows any English, and my co-teachers are not here, I can fart around on Waygook and look "busy."  YouTube would get me in trouble, as I got caught watching some Korean language-learning videos...

I have some books on PDF that help make me look busy, but having the VP's eyes over my shoulder quite often makes me paranoid. He'll actually randomly walk around and yell at other Korean teachers too. It's a very weird, toxic environment.

You got in trouble for studying Korean? That VP must be a real winner. Hopefully you are not staying another year.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread
Post by: weirdgirlinkorea on February 10, 2015, 10:35:03 am
How many of you that deskwarm are high school (as in only high school)? I ask because I just got hired at one and when I was explaining my current schedule to one of the Korean teachers at my new school, she asked,"Wait, you go to the school and sit, when there's no school?" Me:"yes." Her:"What do you do there?" Me: "Umm, stare at the screen since all my lesson plans are done and school is basically over." Her:"that's weird."
Is it not common in high school? I know I won't be deskwarming because they told me at the interview so I was wondering if it's all high schools or just certain ones.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread
Post by: Mistaloot on February 10, 2015, 12:00:59 pm
I have never actually got in trouble.  But I always feel like someone's looking over my shoulder.  I am studying for a music theory exam, but that's waaaay to obviously not English!

So I fart around on waygook and internet forums all day now.  Although I have been getting more daring with youtube the past few weeks and so far not got it in the neck!
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread
Post by: ChrisKorea on February 12, 2015, 10:22:02 am
I've discovered my dream job: sitting doing nothing in an empty building. I can't believe I am being paid almost $2500US this month to watch Real Housewives of Atlanta.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread
Post by: Mr C on February 13, 2015, 07:53:37 am
How many of you that deskwarm are high school (as in only high school)? I ask because I just got hired at one and when I was explaining my current schedule to one of the Korean teachers at my new school, she asked,"Wait, you go to the school and sit, when there's no school?" Me:"yes." Her:"What do you do there?" Me: "Umm, stare at the screen since all my lesson plans are done and school is basically over." Her:"that's weird."
Is it not common in high school? I know I won't be deskwarming because they told me at the interview so I was wondering if it's all high schools or just certain ones.
The four years I taught high school I never did deskwarming for a single second.  Further, if I (or anyone) was finished for the day, and thoroughly prepared for the next lesson, I could leave at any time.  One year, I had no classes after lunch on Fridays.  That was sweet.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread
Post by: kjritchhart on February 13, 2015, 08:54:25 am
How many of you that deskwarm are high school (as in only high school)? I ask because I just got hired at one and when I was explaining my current schedule to one of the Korean teachers at my new school, she asked,"Wait, you go to the school and sit, when there's no school?" Me:"yes." Her:"What do you do there?" Me: "Umm, stare at the screen since all my lesson plans are done and school is basically over." Her:"that's weird."
Is it not common in high school? I know I won't be deskwarming because they told me at the interview so I was wondering if it's all high schools or just certain ones.
The four years I taught high school I never did deskwarming for a single second.  Further, if I (or anyone) was finished for the day, and thoroughly prepared for the next lesson, I could leave at any time.  One year, I had no classes after lunch on Fridays.  That was sweet.

I also do not deskwarm in my high school.  Super relaxed school.  However, I have friends who teach at another high school in town and they are super strict and she has to desk warm and can't even be a minute late to work or clock out early.  So, it really depends on your school (though it sounds like you will not have to if your new co-teacher thinks it strange).
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread
Post by: LeapOver on March 17, 2015, 02:56:37 am
How much of your work time is deskwarming time?
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread
Post by: aklimkewicz on March 17, 2015, 07:47:16 am
How much of your work time is deskwarming time?

Hey! LeapOver's back! Did you get a job yet?

The answer is it varies depending on the school.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread
Post by: robin_teacher on March 17, 2015, 08:07:58 am
This is my 3rd year (elementary) so even though we've just changed textbook for 5th and 6th I have good resources for nearly every theme and grammar point. I deskwarm between 2 and 5 hours daily. I'm studying Korean so it's a good opportunity to work on vocab memorization.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread
Post by: LeapOver on March 17, 2015, 06:55:19 pm
This is my 3rd year (elementary) so even though we've just changed textbook for 5th and 6th I have good resources for nearly every theme and grammar point. I deskwarm between 2 and 5 hours daily. I'm studying Korean so it's a good opportunity to work on vocab memorization.

Is not for public school or hagwon?
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread
Post by: aklimkewicz on July 02, 2015, 08:56:55 am
It's the first day of middle school final exams at my school. Is anybody else deskwarming today?
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread
Post by: Kyndo on July 02, 2015, 09:54:35 am
It's the first day of middle school final exams at my school. Is anybody else deskwarming today?

Kinda. Except that I have 1,200 pages of writing-tests to mark, grades to be handed in by next tuesday. No video games for me!  :sad: :cry:
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread
Post by: hackedtravel on July 02, 2015, 10:39:53 am
HS final exams are next week, so classes are canceled for "self-study."

Deskwarming started yesterday for me.... I've only got 1 day left to teach until camp starts on July 23rd.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread
Post by: country09 on July 02, 2015, 10:46:46 am
It's the first day of middle school final exams at my school. Is anybody else deskwarming today?

Lucky. I have to sit in on all the tests. I do get to go home after lunch though so I guess that is a plus.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread
Post by: JLCutler on July 02, 2015, 10:47:04 am
HS final exams are next week, so classes are canceled for "self-study."

Deskwarming started yesterday for me.... I've only got 1 day left to teach until camp starts on July 23rd.

Same here. Teaching in high school means months of deskwarming within semesters.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread
Post by: kas3293 on July 02, 2015, 11:12:22 am
My high school makes me teach classes during the entire break (excluding vacations of course). The students take a reduced schedule of classes and I have a after school class from 3:30-5 every day. Gives me something to do during the "deskwarming" period.
Title: Deskwarming game suggestions
Post by: Pennypie on July 21, 2015, 08:17:01 am
So it's deskwarming time again -

What are some good online games you play at work to pass the time?

My suggestion - http://agar.io/

Move a circle around collecting other circles whilst trying not to be eaten by bigger circles  :laugh: It's very addictive and infuriating!
Title: Re: Deskwarming game suggestions
Post by: meepmoopimmarobots on July 21, 2015, 08:21:41 am
Pretend You're Xyzzy: http://www.pretendyoure.xyz/zy/ (http://www.pretendyoure.xyz/zy/)

Cards Against Humanity at work FTW!
Title: Re: Deskwarming game suggestions
Post by: johnny russian on July 21, 2015, 08:30:23 am
So it's deskwarming time again -

What are some good online games you play at work to pass the time?

My suggestion - http://agar.io/

Move a circle around collecting other circles whilst trying not to be eaten by bigger circles  :laugh: It's very addictive and infuriating!

damn, some of the guys on there are huge (that's what she said).
Title: Re: Deskwarming game suggestions
Post by: ChrisKorea on July 21, 2015, 08:41:54 am
So it's deskwarming time again -

What are some good online games you play at work to pass the time?

My suggestion - http://agar.io/

Move a circle around collecting other circles whilst trying not to be eaten by bigger circles  :laugh: It's very addictive and infuriating!

How do I make my circle go faster?
Title: Re: Deskwarming game suggestions
Post by: ChickenLegsMcGee on July 21, 2015, 08:41:54 am
All suggestions pale in comparison to this:

http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/
Title: Re: Deskwarming game suggestions
Post by: Pennypie on July 21, 2015, 08:44:10 am
So it's deskwarming time again -

What are some good online games you play at work to pass the time?

My suggestion - http://agar.io/

Move a circle around collecting other circles whilst trying not to be eaten by bigger circles  :laugh: It's very addictive and infuriating!

How do I make my circle go faster?

You can't. As it gets bigger it gets slower, but you don't need to be fast...just greedy.
Title: Re: Deskwarming game suggestions
Post by: Imogen1991 on July 21, 2015, 08:50:53 am
So it's deskwarming time again -

What are some good online games you play at work to pass the time?

My suggestion - http://agar.io/

Move a circle around collecting other circles whilst trying not to be eaten by bigger circles  :laugh: It's very addictive and infuriating!

There goes any hope of productivity i ever had, so addictive!
Title: Re: Deskwarming game suggestions
Post by: ChickenLegsMcGee on July 21, 2015, 08:53:26 am
So it's deskwarming time again -

What are some good online games you play at work to pass the time?

My suggestion - http://agar.io/

Move a circle around collecting other circles whilst trying not to be eaten by bigger circles  :laugh: It's very addictive and infuriating!

How do I make my circle go faster?

You can't. As it gets bigger it gets slower, but you don't need to be fast...just greedy.

so I lied...the circle game is much more fun  :P
Title: Re: Deskwarming game suggestions
Post by: Imogen1991 on July 21, 2015, 09:08:58 am
hopelessly addicted to the circle game.

question, space is to split the cell, what do you press to combiine split cells back together again like i cna see some players doing?
Title: Re: Deskwarming game suggestions
Post by: Space on July 21, 2015, 09:15:59 am
http://www.crazymonkeygames.com/Pandemic-2.html

(http://ragegenerator.com/uploads/43797.png)
Title: Re: Deskwarming game suggestions
Post by: johnny russian on July 21, 2015, 09:25:48 am
managed to get into the top 10 for 2 seconds in the circle game. at one stage i was the size of a small planet. then i got chowed by something the size of a spirit bomb  :laugh:
Title: Re: Deskwarming game suggestions
Post by: Space on July 21, 2015, 09:27:53 am
You could make learning a fulfilling game  8)

http://www.gurl.com/2015/04/06/websites-that-will-make-you-smarter/

http://www.lifehack.org/articles/technology/25-killer-websites-that-make-you-cleverer-2.html

http://inktank.fi/40-websites-that-will-make-you-cleverer-right-now/

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/25-websites-that-will-make-you-smarter-2014-11

http://beebom.com/2013/08/13-websites-that-will-make-you-smarter

http://www.duolingo.com/[1]
https://www.khanacademy.org/[2]
http://justinguitar.com/[3]
http://www.cookingforengineers.com/[4]
http://www.thedatingspecialist.com/[5]
http://www.nerdfitness.com/[6]
http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm[7]
http://www.investopedia.com/[8]
http://www.quora.com/[9]
http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/[10]
http://spreeder.com/[11]
http://www.gutenberg.org/[12]
http://www.codecademy.com/[13]
http://www.geographyiq.com/[14]
http://ankisrs.net/[15]
http://www.lumosity.com/[16]
http://www.ted.com/[17]
http://www.cliffsnotes.com/[18]
http://pinfruit.com/[19]
http://www.mindtools.com/index.html[20]
http://www.learnstreet.com/[21]
http://www.howstuffworks.com/[22]
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/[23]
http://www.onelook.com/[24]
http://lizardpoint.com/ [25]
http://mathrun.net/ [26]
http://unplugthetv.com/ [26]
http://www.instructables.com/ [27]
http://ureddit.com/ [28]
http://www.brainmetrix.com/ [29]
http://www.lumosity.com/ [30]
https://www.codecademy.com/ [31]
http://mentalfloss.com/ [32]

Title: Re: Deskwarming game suggestions
Post by: ChickenLegsMcGee on July 21, 2015, 09:30:32 am
You could make learning a fulfilling game  8)

http://www.gurl.com/2015/04/06/websites-that-will-make-you-smarter/

http://www.lifehack.org/articles/technology/25-killer-websites-that-make-you-cleverer-2.html

http://inktank.fi/40-websites-that-will-make-you-cleverer-right-now/

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/25-websites-that-will-make-you-smarter-2014-11

http://beebom.com/2013/08/13-websites-that-will-make-you-smarter

http://www.duolingo.com/[1]
https://www.khanacademy.org/[2]
http://justinguitar.com/[3]
http://www.cookingforengineers.com/[4]
http://www.thedatingspecialist.com/[5]
http://www.nerdfitness.com/[6]
http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm[7]
http://www.investopedia.com/[8]
http://www.quora.com/[9]
http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/[10]
http://spreeder.com/[11]
http://www.gutenberg.org/[12]
http://www.codecademy.com/[13]
http://www.geographyiq.com/[14]
http://ankisrs.net/[15]
http://www.lumosity.com/[16]
http://www.ted.com/[17]
http://www.cliffsnotes.com/[18]
http://pinfruit.com/[19]
http://www.mindtools.com/index.html[20]
http://www.learnstreet.com/[21]
http://www.howstuffworks.com/[22]
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/[23]
http://www.onelook.com/[24]
http://lizardpoint.com/ [25]
http://mathrun.net/ [26]
http://unplugthetv.com/ [26]
http://www.instructables.com/ [27]
http://ureddit.com/ [28]
http://www.brainmetrix.com/ [29]
http://www.lumosity.com/ [30]
https://www.codecademy.com/ [31]
http://mentalfloss.com/ [32]

you. we don't like you. How dare you try to sneak learning onto this holy thread.

(http://diaryofawhinyguy.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/gtfo-meme-rage-face.png)
Title: Re: Deskwarming game suggestions
Post by: englishrose on July 21, 2015, 09:40:57 am
You could make learning a fulfilling game  8)


you. we don't like you. How dare you try to sneak learning onto this holy thread.

(http://diaryofawhinyguy.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/gtfo-meme-rage-face.png)

Agree. Try those simple mind tricks on your students not us. Give us some honest time wasting websites. 

Speaking for myselfsome, Im edumakated enough.
Title: Re: Deskwarming game suggestions
Post by: Space on July 21, 2015, 09:40:57 am
You could make learning a fulfilling game  8)

http://www.gurl.com/2015/04/06/websites-that-will-make-you-smarter/

http://www.lifehack.org/articles/technology/25-killer-websites-that-make-you-cleverer-2.html

http://inktank.fi/40-websites-that-will-make-you-cleverer-right-now/

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/25-websites-that-will-make-you-smarter-2014-11

http://beebom.com/2013/08/13-websites-that-will-make-you-smarter

http://www.duolingo.com/[1]
https://www.khanacademy.org/[2]
http://justinguitar.com/[3]
http://www.cookingforengineers.com/[4]
http://www.thedatingspecialist.com/[5]
http://www.nerdfitness.com/[6]
http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm[7]
http://www.investopedia.com/[8]
http://www.quora.com/[9]
http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/[10]
http://spreeder.com/[11]
http://www.gutenberg.org/[12]
http://www.codecademy.com/[13]
http://www.geographyiq.com/[14]
http://ankisrs.net/[15]
http://www.lumosity.com/[16]
http://www.ted.com/[17]
http://www.cliffsnotes.com/[18]
http://pinfruit.com/[19]
http://www.mindtools.com/index.html[20]
http://www.learnstreet.com/[21]
http://www.howstuffworks.com/[22]
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/[23]
http://www.onelook.com/[24]
http://lizardpoint.com/ [25]
http://mathrun.net/ [26]
http://unplugthetv.com/ [26]
http://www.instructables.com/ [27]
http://ureddit.com/ [28]
http://www.brainmetrix.com/ [29]
http://www.lumosity.com/ [30]
https://www.codecademy.com/ [31]
http://mentalfloss.com/ [32]

you. we don't like you. How dare you try to sneak learning onto this holy thread.

(http://diaryofawhinyguy.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/gtfo-meme-rage-face.png)

 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

(http://fumaga.com/i/and-not-a-single-****-was-given-that-day-cat.jpg)

Edit: lol. f*uk was in the image title. couldn't link but here I downloaded it for you guys

Title: Re: Deskwarming game suggestions
Post by: Epistemology on July 21, 2015, 12:33:53 pm
Pokemon Trading Card Game Online
http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-tcg/play-online/
Title: Re: Deskwarming game suggestions
Post by: youwhatm8 on July 21, 2015, 05:02:56 pm
You could play fantasy football, you can spend endless hours tinkering with your team.

http://www.waygook.org/index.php?topic=78247.0
Title: Re: Deskwarming game suggestions
Post by: ChrisKorea on July 21, 2015, 06:54:18 pm
So it's deskwarming time again -

What are some good online games you play at work to pass the time?

My suggestion - http://agar.io/

Move a circle around collecting other circles whilst trying not to be eaten by bigger circles  :laugh: It's very addictive and infuriating!

I f*ck*ng hate you for introducing me to this game. ;-)
Title: Get Out Of Desk Warming?
Post by: janet1992 on July 24, 2015, 05:31:46 pm
Okay, so we all hate desk warming and look for a way out of it... and I know it's probably useless to even have hope to get out of it (in my case anyway) but I had this convo on FB with this person who gets out of it and says I am letting my school "push" me around...

see image attached.

now really, how in the hell is he pulling this off? And 2nd, has anyone else done this and is sitll here and not facing a volatile work environment - coz I know my main school vice would flip!

Answers??

Is it because of his residency?

how how how??

UPDATE:
I'd never sacrifice my good relationships with my schools for time off desk warming (I can take unpaid leave if I want it that bad) I have been here already 2 years , I know the drill and I pick my battles.

Turns out he is just a jerk and now works privately at home , online - probably where he belongs, I feel sorry for his co-workers.
Title: Re: Get Out Of Desk Warming?
Post by: yfb on July 24, 2015, 05:47:19 pm
If you do this, be prepared to have all your jeong flushed down the toilet and have a hellish fall semester. Just because this guy's school declined to take it to the labor board doesn't excuse his behavior. Having an F visa is not a
 license to be a knob. I wouldnt expect any reference letters either.

 Why not have him post to waygook to share the secrets of his visa?
Title: Re: Get Out Of Desk Warming?
Post by: AlivePoet on July 24, 2015, 05:57:43 pm
It is every employee's duty to abide by the contract, which clearly states that we are required to come to school Monday-Friday, 8 hours a day, except for our paid vacation days and holidays.

This guy sounds like he's either BSing or happens to be one of the lucky few where their schools allow them to stay home, and he's just playing it up to sound like he's a big shot. Refusing to abide by the contract is certainly not going to put you in any good light with the school and IS grounds for getting you fired. Contract teachers are also required to come in, not just us. It's not discrimination against NETs, it's abiding by what your contract clearly states.

OP, ignore that guy and what he says. Do your duty and do it without complaint, like the rest of us.

RE: desk warming... bring a kindle and read, bring an instrument and write music, work on upping your credentials, prepare for whatever future lessons you have...be productive and it will not be time wasted.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: antmar on March 21, 2016, 02:48:01 pm
I had a question. I'm barely into my first year as a GEPIK teacher and first time in Korea so I'm still trying to understand desk warming etiquette. What do you guys usually do during this time?

BIG QUESTION: Does your co teacher sit in the same room as you during this time? Me and my co teacher get along very well but we usually sit in complete silence during the "desk warming" periods. I just don't feel like I could get away with watching movies and stuff because my co teacher is in the room and she also seems to not listen to music or anything. (I'd love to listen to music.)
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: yirj17 on March 21, 2016, 03:04:06 pm
I'm in the teacher's office, so during periods of deskwarming, it's usually just me, the secretary, and maybe a random teacher. Sometimes people from the admin office wander in and out (I think they get bored too, lol).

As long as I stay in the school, it seems to be fine. Like sometimes I'll dally upstairs to the music room and play around, nobody seems to mind (my school is pretty chill though).

I do work on lesson planning but I can't do it for hours on end without some breaks in between. So, I play music, read books online (via my home library's Overdrive), and generally derp on the internet to break up the monotony. Sometimes I even call people on Skype* to while the time away or I message my other friends who are also stuck deskwarming. Lol

*I figured it was okay to make phone calls because the secretary makes personal calls (as does anyone else) during deskwarming season. I follow their lead and nobody has complained so far.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Pennypie on March 21, 2016, 03:04:24 pm
I had a question. I'm barely into my first year as a GEPIK teacher and first time in Korea so I'm still trying to understand desk warming ettiquette. What do you guys usually do during this time?

BIG QUESTION: Does your co teacher sit in the same room as you during this time? Me and my co teacher get along very well but we usually sit in complete silence during the "desk warming" periods."

Prepare for lessons, mess around on the internet, do some self study. Some schools don't care if you just lay your head down and take a nap (if others do it, then it's ok)
As for being silent, your co teacher is probably working on something so don't worry. It's completely normal. I once shared an office with my 5 co workers and we would go hours in the afternoon without saying a word.
Title: Unpaid time off instead of deskwarming... success stories?
Post by: waygook2016 on July 25, 2016, 03:15:56 pm
I'm only one day into deskwarming and it is making me want to book the next flight home. It's hot, it's sticky, and it's pointless.

I would much rather just lose out on a few hours' pay each day. I'm already teaching three camps. I already have one of the worst locations possible (middle of nowhere, crappy buses, no other foreigners), why can't I have one "perk" at this stupid job?

Has anyone had success asking for unpaid time off in the afternoons? If I could just leave at 2:30 instead of 4:30, my quality of life would improve so much.
Title: Re: Unpaid time off instead of deskwarming... success stories?
Post by: yirj17 on July 25, 2016, 03:38:30 pm
Just depends on your school. At my school you just have to make a request in NEIS and get it approved (for me it's either the head teacher or the principal). I have requested to leave early like maybe twice so far (not during camp though).
Title: Re: Unpaid time off instead of deskwarming... success stories?
Post by: antoniusk on July 25, 2016, 04:20:32 pm
You're given nothing to do? Or maybe you can do something?

Yeah, deskwarming sucks, especially when you have to go into the middle of nowhere to find nobody else except the administrators and maybe one teacher sitting around chatting and sipping coffee. But this is usually the time when I lesson plan months in advance (especially for the holidays) or just write up a story or something. I find ways to be productive, or unproductive, like YouTubing. Brushing up on Korean or any other language is something you can do.

But I get what you mean. I'm not sure if you were looking for a solution but it sucks having to do something pointless to earn the month's pay.
Title: Re: Unpaid time off instead of deskwarming... success stories?
Post by: Datasapien on July 25, 2016, 05:43:43 pm
It's not ideal, but then again you're getting paid pretty well to do absolutely nothing. I'm sure we all get jealous of people with jobs like that when we're smack in the middle of a busy semester - so try to enjoy it while you can  ;D I know it's frustrating but there's not much we can do about it.

As others have said, you can plan lessons (yeah right :laugh:), study Korean, watch Youtube, read books, sleep, learn a new instrument, study coding ... there's the whole internet at your fingertips :D 화이팅
Title: Re: Unpaid time off instead of deskwarming... success stories?
Post by: gotngoidea on July 26, 2016, 09:57:35 am
If you have sick leave you can take an 'early leave for medical reasons' and visit a hospital/optometrist/dentist/etc and use hours from your sick leave every day.
I get acupuncture so I get to leave at lunch time after my camp hours.
Title: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: Piggydee on July 27, 2016, 09:40:02 am
So today is closing day of the spring/summer semester and my principal just walked by and  saw me on my smartphone.  Ummmm.  How does this make you guys feel.  He slowly walked by and I say "안녕하세요" to him.  Other than that I just feel I should have "looked busy." (Forum typing on here give me appearance of busy  :P)   Seriously should I feel some kind of way about this?
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: KimDuHan on July 27, 2016, 09:53:17 am
I used to just watch YouTube, make lesson plans, and read. Make sure you have some school books on the desk and you'll be ok.
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: emmas28 on July 27, 2016, 09:55:23 am
I just cracked the forever21 website and was trying to use my phone to translate the final payment screen when my principal came in. I switched to a random excel page super speedy and 'looked busy' willing him to go away  :-[ He's nice though and I'm sure he doesn't mind.

Ahh the struggles of having your desk in the teacher's lounge facing the two doors.
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: Pecan on July 27, 2016, 10:13:04 am
Nurse's room, A/C set on 18, full power, taking a nap on top of my high-thread count sheet placed on top of the bed, as the school bedding is rarely, if ever, washed properly.
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: maximmm on July 27, 2016, 10:17:49 am
How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?

All warm and fuzzy inside.  You?
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: Cndngrrrl222 on July 27, 2016, 10:41:47 am
I hardly ever see my principal but he is a cool guy. I don't think he would care. However, I think one of my CoT thinks that all I do all day is take naps and do nothing. She has not said anything directly but I don't think she likes it. For the past few days, she has been coming to my office to help me with summer camp things but whenever she comes, she catches me when I just finished a nap so my eyes are still not fully open. She never catches me when I actually do work because when she comes, I'm done work and I'm bored. So one day she comes into my office and she was like 'look into my eyes' and then I realized, she thinks I'm a lazy butt. 
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: Piggydee on July 27, 2016, 10:45:44 am
I hardly ever see my principal but he is a cool guy. I don't think he would care. However, I think one of my CoT thinks that all I do all day is take naps and do nothing. She has not said anything directly but I don't think she likes it. For the past few days, she has been coming to my office to help me with summer camp things but whenever she comes, she catches me when I just finished a nap so my eyes are still not fully open. She never catches me when I actually do work because when she comes, I'm done work and I'm bored. So one day she comes into my office and she was like 'look into my eyes' and then I realized, she thinks I'm a lazy butt.

The librarian at my last school was like that.   Yeah the f'en librarian.  One time I was taking a nap under my desk and she came in and woke me up and said "What do?" I was like ummmm excuse me but this is winter vacation time and I'm in here deskwarming, what else was I suppose to "what do."  I was always worried she would snitch on me for napping.  So now I have "learned my lesson" and I stay awake at my current school.....OH but I managed to catch my co-workers head down on desk, full sleep mode, even in open areas in the library.  But god forbid I do that.  A parent might see me  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: Zaiterade on July 27, 2016, 11:09:30 am
I guess I'm lucky, because the other teachers around me always nap and shop online during their downtime. I do what I want, and if anyone gives me a weird look, I glance over at another teacher taking a nap or listening to K-Pop.
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: MayorHaggar on July 27, 2016, 11:29:57 am
Why would they care, they know you have nothing to do. All the Korean teachers get way more vacation time though they'll come in randomly to do paperwork. You have way less vacation time and zero paperwork.

I just played video games on my laptop.
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: SkidMarx on July 27, 2016, 11:36:16 am
I have my own office on the third floor and no one except my coteachers ever come in so I don't know? I'm basically in charge of my classes which means I lead all the activities and make all the games and extra stuff so if they don't like that I slack off during down time, too bad for them. I don't think my cos really care though. Half the time they roll in, I'm playing Super Mario on my phone with a Bluetooth controller and no one ever says anything.

Although, the vice came in to the English room for Camp Day 3. He didn't say anything, just looked at the kids doing their crafts, nodded, smiled and left. In the two years I've been here, I don't think he ever once came up here so that was a bit odd.
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: waygook2016 on July 27, 2016, 11:37:20 am
I'm currently terrified I'm going to get caught working out in the English room. I've brought my weight set, yoga mat, and a full change of clothes.

They'd probably be more pissed that my tattoo is visible when my hair is up, but whatever.
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: carolynlou12 on July 27, 2016, 11:40:57 am
I wave, give a head bow with an 안녕하세요, then back to whatever I'm reading, watching, or shopping for. My principal and vice principal are super easy going and are very aware of how stupid deskwarming is though. They regularly make jokes about how bored I must be. But my regional education office does checks on NETs, so I have to stay until at least 4 every day :rolleyes:
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: renhasbrownhair on July 27, 2016, 11:43:41 am
no one ever checks on me when I'm desk warming. I just nap, watch Hulu or Netflix, read reddit. The principal once caught me resting at my desk when i had a free period last year, but I was so god-awful sick she didn't say anything/didn't care.
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: Loki88 on July 27, 2016, 11:50:29 am
I hardly ever see my principal but he is a cool guy. I don't think he would care. However, I think one of my CoT thinks that all I do all day is take naps and do nothing. She has not said anything directly but I don't think she likes it. For the past few days, she has been coming to my office to help me with summer camp things but whenever she comes, she catches me when I just finished a nap so my eyes are still not fully open. She never catches me when I actually do work because when she comes, I'm done work and I'm bored. So one day she comes into my office and she was like 'look into my eyes' and then I realized, she thinks I'm a lazy butt.

The librarian at my last school was like that.   Yeah the f'en librarian.  One time I was taking a nap under my desk and she came in and woke me up and said "What do?" I was like ummmm excuse me but this is winter vacation time and I'm in here deskwarming, what else was I suppose to "what do."  I was always worried she would snitch on me for napping.  So now I have "learned my lesson" and I stay awake at my current school.....OH but I managed to catch my co-workers head down on desk, full sleep mode, even in open areas in the library.  But god forbid I do that.  A parent might see me  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Seeing as all 3 of my CTs have napped ont heir desk throughout the year I would feel no shame doing it. Otoh, I enjoy sleeping at night so wouldn't anyway.
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: Loki88 on July 27, 2016, 11:52:01 am
No one checks on me. Mostly, it's good. My new CT has showed up a handful of times but I don't think she's here to check on me. I get invited down for lunch in the main office occasionally and then come back up here to chill.
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: natmossy on July 27, 2016, 11:53:37 am
Why would they care, they know you have nothing to do. All the Korean teachers get way more vacation time though they'll come in randomly to do paperwork. You have way less vacation time and zero paperwork.

I just played video games on my laptop.

OK-the Korean teachers do get a lot more vacation time, right?! I was surprised (read: peeved) when one of my co-teachers asked how long my trip was and I when I said about two weeks she seemed shocked and jealous? I didn't react to her ridiculous reaction. By the way, she is under 30...so it's not an "ahjumma thing."
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: carolynlou12 on July 27, 2016, 12:29:09 pm
Why would they care, they know you have nothing to do. All the Korean teachers get way more vacation time though they'll come in randomly to do paperwork. You have way less vacation time and zero paperwork.

I just played video games on my laptop.

OK-the Korean teachers do get a lot more vacation time, right?! I was surprised (read: peeved) when one of my co-teachers asked how long my trip was and I when I said about two weeks she seemed shocked and jealous? I didn't react to her ridiculous reaction. By the way, she is under 30...so it's not an "ahjumma thing."

They get more vacation time than us, but they don't actually go on many trips. Same as back home for me. You might use a week of your vacation to travel, but the rest is spent visiting family or just chilling at home.
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: natmossy on July 27, 2016, 12:32:13 pm
Why would they care, they know you have nothing to do. All the Korean teachers get way more vacation time though they'll come in randomly to do paperwork. You have way less vacation time and zero paperwork.

I just played video games on my laptop.

OK-the Korean teachers do get a lot more vacation time, right?! I was surprised (read: peeved) when one of my co-teachers asked how long my trip was and I when I said about two weeks she seemed shocked and jealous? I didn't react to her ridiculous reaction. By the way, she is under 30...so it's not an "ahjumma thing."

They get more vacation time than us, but they don't actually go on many trips. Same as back home for me. You might use a week of your vacation to travel, but the rest is spent visiting family or just chilling at home.


People are free to choose what they want to do with their off time. Bottom line is, they get more vacation time.  :wink: Edit: The point that I was trying to make about vacation time and taking trips is that she made it seem as though I were going away for a long time, when in fact, she's got a longer break than me! ha...
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: Paul on July 27, 2016, 12:52:11 pm
She'd have to walk past the Korean teacher in this room watching soap operas and screaming obscenities down the phone to her friends before even having a chance of seeing me crumpled in a heap of feverish "should be home right now resting".
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: Zaiterade on July 27, 2016, 01:10:29 pm
Why would they care, they know you have nothing to do. All the Korean teachers get way more vacation time though they'll come in randomly to do paperwork. You have way less vacation time and zero paperwork.

I just played video games on my laptop.

OK-the Korean teachers do get a lot more vacation time, right?! I was surprised (read: peeved) when one of my co-teachers asked how long my trip was and I when I said about two weeks she seemed shocked and jealous? I didn't react to her ridiculous reaction. By the way, she is under 30...so it's not an "ahjumma thing."
Yes, but they also work longer hours than us on average, and have to deal with all of the working culture crap that most other Korean teacher's complain about (teacher dinners, staying late, general unhappiness, etc). At least we NETs can get out of alot of crap by pulling the foreigner card.
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: yirj17 on July 27, 2016, 01:39:24 pm
In the beginning I often worked late due in part to adjusting to a new job and country and also having multiple schools. Some days I still work as late as the Korean teachers do. My main principle sees this so I think he's sometimes relieved if I'm taking it easy during deskwarming. One time it hit 5pm but I was still working and he stared at me and told me to go home lol. Thankfully he's fairly chill and a nice person. If I had to deskwarm at my travel school with the strict VP you can bet i'd be looking busy the entire time
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: yirgacheffe on July 27, 2016, 01:51:40 pm
Why would they care, they know you have nothing to do. All the Korean teachers get way more vacation time though they'll come in randomly to do paperwork. You have way less vacation time and zero paperwork.

I just played video games on my laptop.

OK-the Korean teachers do get a lot more vacation time, right?! I was surprised (read: peeved) when one of my co-teachers asked how long my trip was and I when I said about two weeks she seemed shocked and jealous? I didn't react to her ridiculous reaction. By the way, she is under 30...so it's not an "ahjumma thing."
Yes, but they also work longer hours than us on average, and have to deal with all of the working culture crap that most other Korean teacher's complain about (teacher dinners, staying late, general unhappiness, etc). At least we NETs can get out of alot of crap by pulling the foreigner card.

Also, the teachers are sometimes required to participate in "training" or educational programs during vacation, so even though they are not present at school, they might actually still be doing work-related stuff in some other venue. Obviously this doesn't hold true for every single teacher, but it's a possibility, especially if she is still young and in the early years of her career.





In terms of being caught deskwarming, I usually have a few documents and a couple of educational-looking websites open that I can quickly Alt-Tab to. :laugh: Or, if I'm on my phone, I just keep those windows open and quickly switch to the computer if someone comes in. I can hear the footsteps about five seconds before anyone actually enters, so I always have plenty of time to switch to the busy look. :laugh:
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: Mezoti97 on July 27, 2016, 05:44:45 pm
The only time I remember a vice-principal stopping by to "check on me" while deskwarming a few years ago at my last public school, he couldn't even see what I was doing, other than the fact that I was sitting at my desk in front of my work computer (he didn't enter the English office and basically just opened the door and poked his head in to say hello to me; plus, the way my desk was situated/arranged, my work computer was facing away from him, so he couldn't see what I was looking at/doing on the computer unless he had entered the English office and walked all the way around behind my desk, neither of which he did). Apart from that, I don't recall anyone ever really coming by to check on me while deskwarming -- although on a few different occasions in the past at previous public schools, I did get a phone call from someone in the administration office (they called the English office landline phone number) to check to make sure that I was there. Otherwise, in general, no one ever really physically came to check on me during my past deskwarming days.

Getting caught playing on my cell phone wasn't ever really an issue, since I'm not much of a phone person in general, and I didn't have a smartphone for the majority of the years I worked in the public school system in Korea (I only finally got one like a month before my last public school contract ended -- and by that point, it was summer vacation/summer camp/deskwarming time). My ex-co-teacher at my last public school, on the other hand, frequently played with her smartphone while sitting at her desk, and when she wasn't doing that, she was napping at her desk. It was always funny whenever the vice-principal occasionally stopped by our office (during the semester when regular classes were in session, not during vacation/deskwarming period) and my ex-co-teacher would scramble to sit up straight from her napping position or quickly put down her phone, in a lame attempt to make it look like she hadn't been slacking off. Ha.
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: MayorHaggar on July 27, 2016, 08:10:09 pm
Why would they care, they know you have nothing to do. All the Korean teachers get way more vacation time though they'll come in randomly to do paperwork. You have way less vacation time and zero paperwork.

I just played video games on my laptop.

OK-the Korean teachers do get a lot more vacation time, right?! I was surprised (read: peeved) when one of my co-teachers asked how long my trip was and I when I said about two weeks she seemed shocked and jealous? I didn't react to her ridiculous reaction. By the way, she is under 30...so it's not an "ahjumma thing."
Yes, but they also work longer hours than us on average, and have to deal with all of the working culture crap that most other Korean teacher's complain about (teacher dinners, staying late, general unhappiness, etc). At least we NETs can get out of alot of crap by pulling the foreigner card.

No. Maybe at middle or high school they do, but at elementary school they'd all screech up to the parking lot at the same time I did, then at 5pm they'd be out the door in a flash like a damn cartoon character. They'd teach less classes than me and had like 3 weeks off in both January and August. Compared to the average Korean office job, elementary school teacher must be the cushiest job in the country.
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: Andy73 on July 27, 2016, 08:59:39 pm
Why would they care, they know you have nothing to do. All the Korean teachers get way more vacation time though they'll come in randomly to do paperwork. You have way less vacation time and zero paperwork.

I just played video games on my laptop.

OK-the Korean teachers do get a lot more vacation time, right?! I was surprised (read: peeved) when one of my co-teachers asked how long my trip was and I when I said about two weeks she seemed shocked and jealous? I didn't react to her ridiculous reaction. By the way, she is under 30...so it's not an "ahjumma thing."
Yes, but they also work longer hours than us on average, and have to deal with all of the working culture crap that most other Korean teacher's complain about (teacher dinners, staying late, general unhappiness, etc). At least we NETs can get out of alot of crap by pulling the foreigner card.

They live in their home country.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: WestMeetsEast on July 27, 2016, 11:10:39 pm
When I was still in Korea (2 years ago) my old VP was very aware of how dumb deskwarming was, but the previous NET had been in a traffic accident when they'd let him out of school instead of deskwaming.  Consequently the office of education cracked down on them and reminded them that the NET HAS to deskwarm.

I was usually able to go home around 3:15pm instead of 4:30 though.

I spent most of the days watching gaming streams and eating candy.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: maximmm on July 27, 2016, 11:14:04 pm
When I was still in Korea (2 years ago) my old VP was very aware of how dumb deskwarming was, but the previous NET had been in a traffic accident when they'd let him out of school instead of deskwaming.  Consequently the office of education cracked down on them and reminded them that the NET HAS to deskwarm.

I was usually able to go home around 3:15pm instead of 4:30 though.

I spent most of the days watching gaming streams and eating candy.

So... why not then keep the NET in school permanently to avoid any further traffic accidents? 
Title: Re: How do you feel when the principal sees you deskwarm?
Post by: Zaiterade on July 28, 2016, 07:47:31 am
Why would they care, they know you have nothing to do. All the Korean teachers get way more vacation time though they'll come in randomly to do paperwork. You have way less vacation time and zero paperwork.

I just played video games on my laptop.

OK-the Korean teachers do get a lot more vacation time, right?! I was surprised (read: peeved) when one of my co-teachers asked how long my trip was and I when I said about two weeks she seemed shocked and jealous? I didn't react to her ridiculous reaction. By the way, she is under 30...so it's not an "ahjumma thing."
Yes, but they also work longer hours than us on average, and have to deal with all of the working culture crap that most other Korean teacher's complain about (teacher dinners, staying late, general unhappiness, etc). At least we NETs can get out of alot of crap by pulling the foreigner card.

They live in their home country.
This might not be a pro considering how many young Koreans are constantly complaining about how much they hate their lives (Hell joseon). But maybe you're right. Maybe that's just a minority voice.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: FreddyPrinceWilliam on August 03, 2016, 10:57:32 pm
I was wondering, how many of you actually do productive things like lesson planning, reading or studying Korean during your desk warming time??

 I genuinely start out with great intentions to do something like that in the morning, but after my lunch break I find myself only wanting to screw around on the internet for the final four hours of the day.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Mr C on August 04, 2016, 07:53:07 am
When I was still in Korea (2 years ago) my old VP was very aware of how dumb deskwarming was, but the previous NET had been in a traffic accident when they'd let him out of school instead of deskwaming.  Consequently the office of education cracked down on them and reminded them that the NET HAS to deskwarm.

I was usually able to go home around 3:15pm instead of 4:30 though.

I spent most of the days watching gaming streams and eating candy.

So... why not then keep the NET in school permanently to avoid any further traffic accidents?
Probably because after the eight hour workday is finished, they are no longer responsible for you.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: antmar on August 04, 2016, 07:58:17 am
Anyone here ever come in to school just to show their face, maybe leave your backpack behind and then leave and then come back toward the end of the day to say goodbye?
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: FreddyPrinceWilliam on August 04, 2016, 08:03:45 am
Anyone here ever come in to school just to show their face, maybe leave your backpack behind and then leave and then come back toward the end of the day to say goodbye?

I used the back entrance to leave and go to the bank for a good two hours. I dont think anyone noticed. ^ ^
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: JahMoo on August 10, 2016, 11:20:55 am
Anyone here ever come in to school just to show their face, maybe leave your backpack behind and then leave and then come back toward the end of the day to say goodbye?

I used the back entrance to leave and go to the bank for a good two hours. I dont think anyone noticed. ^ ^

My school doesn't have a back entrance. What it does have are cameras at the front and a security guard that makes sure only teachers go in during work hours. T.T
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: DMZabductee on August 10, 2016, 12:10:36 pm
Anyone here ever come in to school just to show their face, maybe leave your backpack behind and then leave and then come back toward the end of the day to say goodbye?

I used the back entrance to leave and go to the bank for a good two hours. I dont think anyone noticed. ^ ^

My school doesn't have a back entrance. What it does have are cameras at the front and a security guard that makes sure only teachers go in during work hours. T.T

@Ajahya ~ my school has got all that crap too but usually security ahjoshi is either sleeping or MIA and as for the cameras no one's really watching them. I used to just step off the grounds to have a smoke, and when security dude was there I would walk right by him, do the bow and nyonghaseyo and march out like it was completely normal for me to be leaving the grounds. Eventually smoke breaks turned into coffee shop or bank trips. Nobody said anything. Just test the waters before you take a whole afternoon off lol

@antmar ~ yes, all the time  ;D
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: JahMoo on August 10, 2016, 12:49:18 pm
Anyone here ever come in to school just to show their face, maybe leave your backpack behind and then leave and then come back toward the end of the day to say goodbye?

I used the back entrance to leave and go to the bank for a good two hours. I dont think anyone noticed. ^ ^

My school doesn't have a back entrance. What it does have are cameras at the front and a security guard that makes sure only teachers go in during work hours. T.T

@Ajahya ~ my school has got all that crap too but usually security ahjoshi is either sleeping or MIA and as for the cameras no one's really watching them. I used to just step off the grounds to have a smoke, and when security dude was there I would walk right by him, do the bow and nyonghaseyo and march out like it was completely normal for me to be leaving the grounds. Eventually smoke breaks turned into coffee shop or bank trips. Nobody said anything. Just test the waters before you take a whole afternoon off lol

@antmar ~ yes, all the time  ;D

Haha for the first time all summer, my VP just called my office to check in on me. I think I'd better not risk it. I can probably take a nap though.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: lifeisgood6447 on August 10, 2016, 12:53:30 pm
Anyone here ever come in to school just to show their face, maybe leave your backpack behind and then leave and then come back toward the end of the day to say goodbye?

I used the back entrance to leave and go to the bank for a good two hours. I dont think anyone noticed. ^ ^


My school doesn't have a back entrance. What it does have are cameras at the front and a security guard that makes sure only teachers go in during work hours. T.T

@Ajahya ~ my school has got all that crap too but usually security ahjoshi is either sleeping or MIA and as for the cameras no one's really watching them. I used to just step off the grounds to have a smoke, and when security dude was there I would walk right by him, do the bow and nyonghaseyo and march out like it was completely normal for me to be leaving the grounds. Eventually smoke breaks turned into coffee shop or bank trips. Nobody said anything. Just test the waters before you take a whole afternoon off lol

@antmar ~ yes, all the time  ;D

It also helps to get their good sides. Always say hello, and a cold Popsicle in the summer or hot coffee in the winter go a long way. They probably don't care anyway, but if they do, I am sure they will begin to let it slide.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Nokcha on August 10, 2016, 02:05:50 pm
I stay in my air conditioned office....and I just cleaned all the hair wrapped around the wheels of my chair....
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: trangoii on August 18, 2016, 07:51:35 am
Who here doesn't get take vacation days during the summer and have to teach 22 hours a week?

Just one more week of this... :sad:

Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Kyndo on August 18, 2016, 08:06:06 am
Who here doesn't get take vacation days during the summer and have to teach 22 hours a week?

Just one more week of this... :sad:
What? No holiday days at all? How is *that* according to contract???

Or do you mean no deskwarming? Seems like fewer teachers are forced to endure this every year, which isn't really a bad thing. I'd much rather be productive than sit around and wonder why I couldn't be doing all this nothing from home...
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: antmar on August 18, 2016, 10:35:28 am
Anyone here ever come in to school just to show their face, maybe leave your backpack behind and then leave and then come back toward the end of the day to say goodbye?

I've really been testing the waters with this and either a. people just don't care or b. they don't get paid enough to "babysit" me during desk warming hours. Guess I'll just take a whole day off tomorrow.  8)

I used the back entrance to leave and go to the bank for a good two hours. I dont think anyone noticed. ^ ^


My school doesn't have a back entrance. What it does have are cameras at the front and a security guard that makes sure only teachers go in during work hours. T.T

@Ajahya ~ my school has got all that crap too but usually security ahjoshi is either sleeping or MIA and as for the cameras no one's really watching them. I used to just step off the grounds to have a smoke, and when security dude was there I would walk right by him, do the bow and nyonghaseyo and march out like it was completely normal for me to be leaving the grounds. Eventually smoke breaks turned into coffee shop or bank trips. Nobody said anything. Just test the waters before you take a whole afternoon off lol

@antmar ~ yes, all the time  ;D

It also helps to get their good sides. Always say hello, and a cold Popsicle in the summer or hot coffee in the winter go a long way. They probably don't care anyway, but if they do, I am sure they will begin to let it slide.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: chupacaubrey on August 18, 2016, 11:10:06 am
Anyone here ever come in to school just to show their face, maybe leave your backpack behind and then leave and then come back toward the end of the day to say goodbye?

Along with napping on the counters in my classroom, this is my favorite school strategy.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: oglop on August 18, 2016, 12:13:00 pm
Anyone here ever come in to school just to show their face, maybe leave your backpack behind and then leave and then come back toward the end of the day to say goodbye?

Along with napping on the counters in my classroom, this is my favorite school strategy.
I'm supposed to be desk warming all this week but I haven't even bothered turning up at all. No one has said anything
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: courtneyvic on August 25, 2016, 09:32:43 am
Hi there,

I'm a new teacher and have only just started at my school (two days ago)

My elementary school is still on vacation right now so no teachers are in apart from me and a chinese teacher. So technically I am desk warming however I have not received any information about lesson planning, curriculum or schedules as I haven't even seen my co-teacher yet!

I'm at a loss as to what to do?

I've created a presentation for a first class to introduce myself with a game or two (just in case on my first day of teaching I'm suddenly thrown into it) but I've been briefly told I'll also do English town which I wasn't aware until I arrived here and I'm really not sure what they involves or whether I should be preparing for that too for my first lessons.

Any advice would be great. I don't like not knowing why my schedule next week will be. The chinese teacher says there is nothing to do when I ask her.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Pennypie on August 25, 2016, 11:20:02 am
Hi there,

I'm a new teacher and have only just started at my school (two days ago)

My elementary school is still on vacation right now so no teachers are in apart from me and a chinese teacher. So technically I am desk warming however I have not received any information about lesson planning, curriculum or schedules as I haven't even seen my co-teacher yet!

I'm at a loss as to what to do?

I've created a presentation for a first class to introduce myself with a game or two (just in case on my first day of teaching I'm suddenly thrown into it) but I've been briefly told I'll also do English town which I wasn't aware until I arrived here and I'm really not sure what they involves or whether I should be preparing for that too for my first lessons.

Any advice would be great. I don't like not knowing why my schedule next week will be. The chinese teacher says there is nothing to do when I ask her.


This happened to me when I moved schools. Its annoying but sometimes it works out like that.

Do you have an English Classroom? Try to find a copy of the English books or teachers guides for the English books then you can find some lessons/Activities on here in advance. You wont know your grades etc but it doesn't hurt to start randomly downloading stuff.

or start to plan your adventures around Korea.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: donovan on August 25, 2016, 02:53:48 pm
Anyone here ever come in to school just to show their face, maybe leave your backpack behind and then leave and then come back toward the end of the day to say goodbye?

Along with napping on the counters in my classroom, this is my favorite school strategy.
I'm supposed to be desk warming all this week but I haven't even bothered turning up at all. No one has said anything

Yes. We often feel like we're being monitored a lot more closely than we actually are. I feel like in most cases if nearly everybody else is out of the office and you're the only chump around, nobody is going to ask questions as to your whereabouts and likely they won't even notice your absence.  Of course if you ask anyone whether it's cool to cut out early or not, they're going to go with the safest answer ("No.") for fear that your deviant behavior might be traced back to them.

That said, couldn't "deskwarming" be rephrased as "curriculum development"? Did all of your lessons in the past year go perfectly? Is there no way to improve or update your materials? Is there really no valid reason to be at school during that time? I don't want to be a wet blanket (or repetitive if others have made this point before me*), but I'm sure there's some way to use your time productively at work even if you're the only one there. If not, is it really so bad to be stuck in your office with some time on your hands? If so, try cutting out early :laugh:

*It turns out I was being repetitive.  Here's the very first post from this thread:
Why do we have to deskwarm?

Nobody knows, but NETs aren't the ones who do--Korean contract teachers deskwarm, as well.
Tenured teachers (they rotate) deskwarm, too, as do the principal and VP.

Things to Do

-lesson plan ahead
-improve your MS Office skills; people in business should focus on Word, Excel, and PowerPoint (finance majors VBA as well)
-keep abreast with your field of study, especially if it's computer related--programming, graphic design, etc.
-brush up on your financial literacy
-brush up on your grammar if necessary
-learn a new skill that may make you more marketable in the job market here or back home
-exercise
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: oglop on August 25, 2016, 03:04:57 pm
i was moving house and jobs (one with no f ucking deskwarming) so i had a lot of things to do....just none of them at school ;)
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: donovan on August 25, 2016, 03:09:32 pm
i was moving house and jobs (one with no f ucking deskwarming) so i had a lot of things to do....just none of them at school ;)

Right. I wasn't directing that at you or anyone in particular.  I know often time is better spent elsewhere~
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: robin_teacher on August 25, 2016, 03:39:17 pm

Yes. We often feel like we're being monitored a lot more closely than we actually are. I feel like in most cases if nearly everybody else is out of the office and you're the only chump around, nobody is going to ask questions as to your whereabouts and likely they won't even notice your absence.  Of course if you ask anyone whether it's cool to cut out early or not, they're going to go with the safest answer ("No.") for fear that your deviant behavior might be traced back to them.

That said, couldn't "deskwarming" be rephrased as "curriculum development"? Did all of your lessons in the past year go perfectly? Is there no way to improve or update your materials? Is there really no valid reason to be at school during that time? I don't want to be a wet blanket (or repetitive if others have made this point before me*), but I'm sure there's some way to use your time productively at work even if you're the only one there. If not, is it really so bad to be stuck in your office with some time on your hands? If so, try cutting out early :laugh:

*It turns out I was being repetitive.  Here's the very first post from this thread:
Why do we have to deskwarm?

Nobody knows, but NETs aren't the ones who do--Korean contract teachers deskwarm, as well.
Tenured teachers (they rotate) deskwarm, too, as do the principal and VP.

Things to Do

-lesson plan ahead
-improve your MS Office skills; people in business should focus on Word, Excel, and PowerPoint (finance majors VBA as well)
-keep abreast with your field of study, especially if it's computer related--programming, graphic design, etc.
-brush up on your financial literacy
-brush up on your grammar if necessary
-learn a new skill that may make you more marketable in the job market here or back home
-exercise

Just a heads up; last year I thought nobody was monitoring my deskwarming activity and it turned out I was wrong. My supervisor let slip that my CoolMessenger login data was used to tell if I was actually there or not. It was bought up at contract renewal which was worrying, but nothing came of it. These days I deskwarm.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: JahMoo on September 02, 2016, 03:20:57 pm
Just a heads up; last year I thought nobody was monitoring my deskwarming activity and it turned out I was wrong. My supervisor let slip that my CoolMessenger login data was used to tell if I was actually there or not. It was bought up at contract renewal which was worrying, but nothing came of it. These days I deskwarm.

I never turned on my messenger during my deskwarming, but I was always in the office. They even called a couple times and I answered. I don't think that's a fool-proof enough system to base things on.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: welcomebackkotter on September 02, 2016, 03:33:22 pm
Just a heads up; last year I thought nobody was monitoring my deskwarming activity and it turned out I was wrong. My supervisor let slip that my CoolMessenger login data was used to tell if I was actually there or not. It was bought up at contract renewal which was worrying, but nothing came of it. These days I deskwarm.

I never turned on my messenger during my deskwarming, but I was always in the office. They even called a couple times and I answered. I don't think that's a fool-proof enough system to base things on.

It's not fool proof by any means but it could be considered one indicator.  It can also be shown to be false (eg: I don't log in when it's not a school day but I am at school, but look at my browsing history.... okay, maybe not that).  Mine logs in automatically every time I turn it on in the morning so I would never be questioned.  Actually if they checked they would know I'm usually 40 minutes early to school every single darn day.

The one day the wife suggested "come home, no one will know if you're not there" is the one day the VP invites me to lunch that he is buying.  Yeh, I just deskwarm, it saves potential problems and isn't that bad really.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: ChrisKorea on December 05, 2016, 05:24:28 pm
I can't believe I ever bashed deskwarming. Being paid to do nothing is a beautiful thing.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: gaelynwrites on December 06, 2016, 09:46:16 am
I don't mind the desk warming. Especially since I can prep stuff for the new teacher coming in for the next year (and work on camp stuff). It's the commute into work in the cold I dislike. I can do all the same things from my warm and toasty home.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Lurch on December 06, 2016, 02:22:40 pm
Does anyone know the official policy on where we have to deskwarm?

Really not wanting to commute to my visiting school, the past two year in different locations I always stayed at my main school the entire time.

I'm quite sure they won't mind you desk warming at your main school. Days to our alternate schools have to be registered with NEIS as unpaid business trips anyway. At least where I'm teaching.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: elsbethm on December 06, 2016, 02:44:50 pm
Does anyone know the official policy on where we have to deskwarm?

Really not wanting to commute to my visiting school, the past two year in different locations I always stayed at my main school the entire time.

From what I know (which may be jack), it's up to your school(s). If your travel school wants you, then I guess you have to go.  Keep in mind, that if you don't go to your travel school for a month then you don't get the travel bonus. Best advice would be to ask your schools.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: yirj17 on December 06, 2016, 03:14:59 pm
It's probably up to your schools. Do you ever have days where all your classes for travel school are canceled? Where do you go then?

I stay at my main school, but I know someone who had to go to her travel school even on deskwarming days (apparently there was no office/desk for her at her main school).
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Mezoti97 on December 07, 2016, 08:26:34 am
Does anyone know the official policy on where we have to deskwarm?

Really not wanting to commute to my visiting school, the past two year in different locations I always stayed at my main school the entire time.

From what I know (which may be jack), it's up to your school(s). If your travel school wants you, then I guess you have to go.  Keep in mind, that if you don't go to your travel school for a month then you don't get the travel bonus. Best advice would be to ask your schools.

When I used to work in a rural area and teach at multiple public schools, I always deskwarmed at my main school -- but as others have said, you should probably ask, as it depends on your schools. Also, yeah, I didn't receive my multiple school bonus during the months when I deskwarmed at my main school and didn't go to my travel schools.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: gaelynwrites on December 07, 2016, 09:42:34 am
Does anyone know the official policy on where we have to deskwarm?

Really not wanting to commute to my visiting school, the past two year in different locations I always stayed at my main school the entire time.

Whenever I don't have classes at my travel school I deskwarm at my main school. (But that could be because I don't have a dedicated space at the travel school and would just be in the way in the office.) Then again, its up to your school.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: e_p on December 07, 2016, 02:04:12 pm
Last year when I had deskwarming I would show up in the morning, say hello to everyone, then after about 20 minutes I would write a note in Korean saying I was going to get stuff [intentionally vague] and to call me if you need anything and put my cell phone number on it. Then I would come back around 30 minutes before closing time. That said I lived 5 minutes from my school, so if you live close this is a safe option.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Greenteabingsu on January 01, 2017, 05:51:23 pm
My co teacher assumes my deskwarming time means that I should still work for 22 hours  :shocked: Since my winter camp got cut from 2 weeks (low budget) to one week...I'm spending this whole week doing 2 sessions a day of fun English stuff with students. I just want my deskwarming back  :cry:
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Kyndo on January 02, 2017, 07:43:25 am
My co teacher assumes my deskwarming time means that I should still work for 22 hours  :shocked:
Well, technically she's right: we're contracted for 22 hours per week, and really ought to be doing that regardless of whether other people are off for holidays or not.

Don't get me wrong: I enjoy the opportunity to sit at work, crank bad music, and let myself slide into a lower state of consciousness for a day or two, but I get that it's not what I'm being paid to do so I can't really blame my school for going out of its way to keep me busy (3 hours of teacher workshops whoooo!  ;D :cry:) between camps.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: yirj17 on January 02, 2017, 11:46:14 am
I thought 22 hours a week was more of a maximum (before overtime) than a requirement? At least that's how it seemed to be implied at orientation.

During the academic year my school finds stuff for me to do to put me at 22 hours (including supervising PE class... Lol) but during deskwarming season I'm pretty much left to do whatever. I'm glad they don't give me busy work and just leave me to my own devices.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: ShandraRee on January 02, 2017, 12:08:31 pm
This is my first desk warming season. One of the contract Korean contract English teachers is here for this week. I will be alone or on vacation the remainder of the break. Last Friday she asked me what my handler said I should do for the next couple of weeks before I take vacation. My handler didn't give me any instructions. The KET is doing daycare in the mornings this week. So she told me that since I am supposed to work 22 hours a week teaching I should help her. I don't mind. It keeps me from napping all day. Plus the kids are super cute. I don't have to prepare anything at all since I'm really there just so she's not alone. They might be cute but they are a handful. The only problem I can think of is that the kids are 1st and 2nd graders and I'm not supposed to teach those grades. On a side note, I will also be teaching them during winter English camp along with 3rd and 4th graders.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: denimdaze on January 09, 2017, 10:55:30 am
Sitting here evaluating my love/hate attitude towards deskwarming.  I hate it that it can be so boring and tedious.  I love it because I use it to finish non-work-related tasks/projects. 

Since I'm curious and have time on my hands, how do you feel about deskwarming? Do you love it, hate it, tolerate it? 
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: grey on January 09, 2017, 11:02:36 am
Sitting here evaluating my love/hate attitude towards deskwarming.  I hate it that it can be so boring and tedious.  I love it because I use it to finish non-work-related tasks/projects. 

Since I'm curious and have time on my hands, how do you feel about deskwarming? Do you love it, hate it, tolerate it?

I think it's stupid and harmful for productivity. I would prefer it to not getting paid.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: The Arm on January 09, 2017, 11:42:02 am
I'm into my second week of deskwarming and still loving it.  It's like being on vacation.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: yirj17 on January 09, 2017, 01:43:41 pm
Sitting here evaluating my love/hate attitude towards deskwarming.  I hate it that it can be so boring and tedious.  I love it because I use it to finish non-work-related tasks/projects. 

Since I'm curious and have time on my hands, how do you feel about deskwarming? Do you love it, hate it, tolerate it?


I like it, don't hate it. Obviously everyone would probably prefer more vacation but I'd rather have more deskwarming than extra camp/classes. The school year is busy enough that I can appreciate a solid chunk of downtime. The first few days I kinda just relax and decompress. Then once I get restless I start working on organizing and prepping for the next semester (amidst recreational hobbies like reading or w/e) but at a relaxed pace.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: yirgacheffe on January 09, 2017, 01:51:20 pm
I've just been reading. I do find that my attention span has gone way down, though, so after like ten pages I come on Waygook for a little bit or go to the bathroom or something but it's hard for me to sit still and just read for much longer at a time. Once I've had that little break, I go back to reading another eight to ten pages. I clean my classroom and my desk toward the end of each day and occasionally I go to the teacher's office to have coffee with whoever is in that day. Much better than camp, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: emmas28 on January 09, 2017, 01:55:28 pm
yirgacheffe YES!

Due to some crazy stomach bug and a trip to hospital I am now desk warming after postponing my vacation dates by a week. Worked out well though as my actual total time in school is less due to those nice red days at the end of the month  ;D
I spend mine reading mostly (love the Kindle app and that you can have it on multiple devices) and planning for my actual vacation. School prep will be done after my trip and I'm in work mode. This early on I'm in holiday mode, work is not getting done!  :azn:

Definitely beats camp...
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: bigfishlittlefish on January 09, 2017, 02:20:03 pm
My first day deskwarming from vacation has been spent reading UKTeacher, sorry headteacher, no no Busan1's arguments with people.

Somebody give that guy a TV show!
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: emmas28 on January 09, 2017, 02:59:46 pm
My first day deskwarming from vacation has been spent reading UKTeacher, sorry headteacher, no no Busan1's arguments with people.

Somebody give that guy a TV show!

 :-[ Received my first warning from waygook admin for taking the bait in one of those arguments. Still awaiting their feedback from his interesting PMs...
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: srandradejr on February 09, 2017, 01:25:20 pm
Okay, so I went into deskwarming today but my room had no electricity, heat, or internet and I had to turn in my computer on the last day of school. I also have only 2 weeks left of my contract (all deskwarming) before I leave Korea. Is there realistically anything that can happen to me if I just don't show up? All the admins know my phone number and I speak Korean so I can just come in if they call me. My co-T and handler didn't renew her contract with the school and told me she is never going back. Whenever I HAVE gone to deskwarming no one has ever checked in on me. 

I am just wondering if I can lose my severance and exit allowance in the 2 weeks left if I just decide not to go to a dark, cold room with no electricity and internet.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: kevingrabb on February 09, 2017, 01:32:04 pm
Okay, so I went into deskwarming today but my room had no electricity, heat, or internet and I had to turn in my computer on the last day of school. I also have only 2 weeks left of my contract (all deskwarming) before I leave Korea. Is there realistically anything that can happen to me if I just don't show up? All the admins know my phone number and I speak Korean so I can just come in if they call me. My co-T and handler didn't renew her contract with the school and told me she is never going back. Whenever I HAVE gone to deskwarming no one has ever checked in on me. 

I am just wondering if I can lose my severance and exit allowance in the 2 weeks left if I just decide not to go to a dark, cold room with no electricity and internet.

I don't know the repercussions, but I will say "Give 'er a go!"
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Pennypie on February 09, 2017, 01:37:27 pm
Okay, so I went into deskwarming today but my room had no electricity, heat, or internet and I had to turn in my computer on the last day of school. I also have only 2 weeks left of my contract (all deskwarming) before I leave Korea. Is there realistically anything that can happen to me if I just don't show up? All the admins know my phone number and I speak Korean so I can just come in if they call me. My co-T and handler didn't renew her contract with the school and told me she is never going back. Whenever I HAVE gone to deskwarming no one has ever checked in on me. 

I am just wondering if I can lose my severance and exit allowance in the 2 weeks left if I just decide not to go to a dark, cold room with no electricity and internet.


**** that shit, I wouldn't go either. If they call you just say you thought because they took your computer you didn't have to go.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: channel5karate on February 09, 2017, 01:53:40 pm
Okay, so I went into deskwarming today but my room had no electricity, heat, or internet and I had to turn in my computer on the last day of school. I also have only 2 weeks left of my contract (all deskwarming) before I leave Korea. Is there realistically anything that can happen to me if I just don't show up? All the admins know my phone number and I speak Korean so I can just come in if they call me. My co-T and handler didn't renew her contract with the school and told me she is never going back. Whenever I HAVE gone to deskwarming no one has ever checked in on me. 

I am just wondering if I can lose my severance and exit allowance in the 2 weeks left if I just decide not to go to a dark, cold room with no electricity and internet.
if you're not comfortable with the risk of just not showing up, but still don't really want to be there you can try this: come in when you're supposed to, say, 8:30, make a little noise, and write a note on your desk that alludes to you going on a walk, picking up lunch, forgot something at home, etc etc.  include your phone number.  then go home/gym/hiking/the bar and perhaps return to school shortly before you're expected to leave.
this is what I do, I don't think anyone even sees the damn note but there ya go.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: welcomebackkotter on February 09, 2017, 02:24:34 pm
Okay, so I went into deskwarming today but my room had no electricity, heat, or internet and I had to turn in my computer on the last day of school. I also have only 2 weeks left of my contract (all deskwarming) before I leave Korea. Is there realistically anything that can happen to me if I just don't show up? All the admins know my phone number and I speak Korean so I can just come in if they call me. My co-T and handler didn't renew her contract with the school and told me she is never going back. Whenever I HAVE gone to deskwarming no one has ever checked in on me. 

I am just wondering if I can lose my severance and exit allowance in the 2 weeks left if I just decide not to go to a dark, cold room with no electricity and internet.

At my school the caretaker sometimes (too often for my liking) forgets to turn on the power in the morning so I have to go remind him.  Sitting in a room without even electricity, let alone heating, is absolutely ridiculous.  Since you said you can speak Korean, if there is a caretaker I would go tell them that you need the power and heat on.  If the power is on then you might get internet too, and use your own laptop if you have one.  It's possible the caretaker didn't know you were there, because honestly sometimes we are forgotten as NETs. 

That's if you decide to go in at all, I am not going to weigh in on that part.  I think all schools attitudes to things like that will be different.  An understanding principal will forgive you because you didn't have lights or heat.  Other Principals may not care in the least.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Pennypie on February 09, 2017, 02:49:16 pm
It is interesting to see what other people do during deskwarming!

I wish had the balls to just not go, but I do usually take extra long lunches and go out wandering or pop back to my house for a bit.

At my old school we could leave after lunch time or I would take it turns with another contract teacher to not come and the other would cover. Those were good days!

This year everyone in my province got an email saying we absolutely have to deskwarm, for insurance reasons  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: but I bet many still dont.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: gaelynwrites on February 09, 2017, 02:55:43 pm
I don't do much. Put on a movie or some youtube in the back ground and surf the interwebs. I have a random document on my laptop for random thoughts that I have about everything from being forced to chill in the library cause my classroom has no heat, to what I plan to have for dinner.

I don't understand Korea's system when it comes to the end of the school year. Why not have the contracts end Feb 12-ish (whenever classes offically ends)? Let all that deskwarming time go towards th new teacher so they can prep some lessons, get familiar with their coworkers and school facilities before classes actually start? makes too much snese for Korea though.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: f.pllay on February 09, 2017, 03:03:08 pm
Bored out of my mind. Resorted to studying. It's so cold in here I'm practically frozen. I don't even have Facebook posts to scorn.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: LupinTheThird on March 02, 2017, 12:29:19 pm
If someone had told me my 22 hour week was going to turn into a 50 hour week when you add on desk warming and traveling for desk warming, I would never have taken this job. Complete and utter BS. I seriously don't think I am going to last the year.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: JahMoo on March 02, 2017, 12:34:14 pm
If someone had told me my 22 hour week was going to turn into a 50 hour week when you add on desk warming and traveling for desk warming, I would never have taken this job. Complete and utter BS. I seriously don't think I am going to last the year.

Desk-warming is the worst, but it's not so bad when you consider you're being paid to do nothing. I suggest you find something to do self-improvement-wise, to pass the time. For example:
Study a foreign language
Start writing that book/screenplay/short story you always wanted to
Sign up for online classes
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Chinguetti on March 02, 2017, 12:44:11 pm
Since getting my own office, I've been exercising. And watching movies (usually while I'm working on a project, lesson-planning, creating worksheets and ppts at the same time, so I'm not being a complete do-nothing).

Also, April Fools is coming up. I'm meticulously planning the rigging of my classroom for some shenanigans. These kids are going to hate me by the end of that week.

And I'm also making some beautiful English posters to replace the boring ones hanging up in here. My whole classroom will be an interactive work of art by the time I'm done with it.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Elegy on March 02, 2017, 02:14:21 pm
If someone had told me my 22 hour week was going to turn into a 50 hour week when you add on desk warming and traveling for desk warming, I would never have taken this job. Complete and utter BS. I seriously don't think I am going to last the year.

When have EPIK teachers ever had 22 hour work weeks? Yeah, you teach class for 22 hours a week (or 22 40/45 minute sessions, to be precise), but we're at our schools for 40 hours a week. How is that a surprise to anyone? It's stated in the contract when you sign...I get not liking deskwarming, but when you sign a document that explicitly says "YOU WILL BE AT SCHOOL FROM 830-430", it's hard to be rationally upset when you have to fulfill that contractual obligation.

Travel time, yeah, it sucks. I'm lucky, so my longest commute is only 40 min once a week, but...yeah. Commuting eats up time for traveling teachers, it sucks.

Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Skyehawks on March 02, 2017, 02:34:23 pm
my longest commute... is across the freaking street.... Yay for getting to sleep in to 8:15 and still get to work on time.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: weirdgirlinkorea on September 16, 2017, 03:51:27 pm
Totally. Thanks to my extensive deskwarming at my gyeonggi school in 2013, I was able to complete the bulk of my second master's courses. 8 hours with nothing to do for two to three weeks? Yup, I was the most productive person ever. Banged out loads of essays, participated in a ton of threads for the class, helped add the 2014 books to waygook, created my winter camp plan and materials, and I napped while playing movies. Sure I would've rather had been home particularly since that school didn't heat or cool any place except the 해장실 (sp?) so I was either sweating or freezing but I was essentially getting paid to finish my degree.

If someone had told me my 22 hour week was going to turn into a 50 hour week when you add on desk warming and traveling for desk warming, I would never have taken this job. Complete and utter BS. I seriously don't think I am going to last the year.

Desk-warming is the worst, but it's not so bad when you consider you're being paid to do nothing. I suggest you find something to do self-improvement-wise, to pass the time. For example:
Study a foreign language
Start writing that book/screenplay/short story you always wanted to
Sign up for online classes
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Kyndo on September 17, 2017, 02:51:17 pm
If someone had told me my 22 hour week was going to turn into a 50 hour week when you add on desk warming and traveling for desk warming, I would never have taken this job. Complete and utter BS. I seriously don't think I am going to last the year.

If you're in a public school, your contract pretty clearly stated that you are gonna be at your job for at least 40 hours a week, so I'm not sure why you would expect anything else. Just be happy those aren't 40 *teaching* hours like at some hagwons!!  :huh:
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: profporkchop on February 20, 2018, 12:09:54 pm
Do people not use battery powered heating socks/gloves?

seems weird to me.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: jannettiee on February 22, 2018, 09:36:14 am
Do people not use battery powered heating socks/gloves?

seems weird to me.

That's a thing?!
But also, I come from the desert so I'm a noob at this whole "cold winter" thing.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: jmnegr2 on February 23, 2018, 10:36:12 am

Yes. We often feel like we're being monitored a lot more closely than we actually are. I feel like in most cases if nearly everybody else is out of the office and you're the only chump around, nobody is going to ask questions as to your whereabouts and likely they won't even notice your absence.  Of course if you ask anyone whether it's cool to cut out early or not, they're going to go with the safest answer ("No.") for fear that your deviant behavior might be traced back to them.

That said, couldn't "deskwarming" be rephrased as "curriculum development"? Did all of your lessons in the past year go perfectly? Is there no way to improve or update your materials? Is there really no valid reason to be at school during that time? I don't want to be a wet blanket (or repetitive if others have made this point before me*), but I'm sure there's some way to use your time productively at work even if you're the only one there. If not, is it really so bad to be stuck in your office with some time on your hands? If so, try cutting out early :laugh:

*It turns out I was being repetitive.  Here's the very first post from this thread:
Why do we have to deskwarm?

Nobody knows, but NETs aren't the ones who do--Korean contract teachers deskwarm, as well.
Tenured teachers (they rotate) deskwarm, too, as do the principal and VP.

Things to Do

-lesson plan ahead
-improve your MS Office skills; people in business should focus on Word, Excel, and PowerPoint (finance majors VBA as well)
-keep abreast with your field of study, especially if it's computer related--programming, graphic design, etc.
-brush up on your financial literacy
-brush up on your grammar if necessary
-learn a new skill that may make you more marketable in the job market here or back home
-exercise

Just a heads up; last year I thought nobody was monitoring my deskwarming activity and it turned out I was wrong. My supervisor let slip that my CoolMessenger login data was used to tell if I was actually there or not. It was bought up at contract renewal which was worrying, but nothing came of it. These days I deskwarm.

This is super important. I know for a fact that my attendance is tracked through my CoolMessenger login data. Doesn't really matter what I do while I'm here as long as I'm here. I've been specifically told that I should make sure it's turned on due to "principal monitoring"
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: hangook77 on June 01, 2018, 03:16:05 pm

Yes. We often feel like we're being monitored a lot more closely than we actually are. I feel like in most cases if nearly everybody else is out of the office and you're the only chump around, nobody is going to ask questions as to your whereabouts and likely they won't even notice your absence.  Of course if you ask anyone whether it's cool to cut out early or not, they're going to go with the safest answer ("No.") for fear that your deviant behavior might be traced back to them.

That said, couldn't "deskwarming" be rephrased as "curriculum development"? Did all of your lessons in the past year go perfectly? Is there no way to improve or update your materials? Is there really no valid reason to be at school during that time? I don't want to be a wet blanket (or repetitive if others have made this point before me*), but I'm sure there's some way to use your time productively at work even if you're the only one there. If not, is it really so bad to be stuck in your office with some time on your hands? If so, try cutting out early :laugh:

*It turns out I was being repetitive.  Here's the very first post from this thread:
Why do we have to deskwarm?

Nobody knows, but NETs aren't the ones who do--Korean contract teachers deskwarm, as well.
Tenured teachers (they rotate) deskwarm, too, as do the principal and VP.

Things to Do

-lesson plan ahead
-improve your MS Office skills; people in business should focus on Word, Excel, and PowerPoint (finance majors VBA as well)
-keep abreast with your field of study, especially if it's computer related--programming, graphic design, etc.
-brush up on your financial literacy
-brush up on your grammar if necessary
-learn a new skill that may make you more marketable in the job market here or back home
-exercise

Just a heads up; last year I thought nobody was monitoring my deskwarming activity and it turned out I was wrong. My supervisor let slip that my CoolMessenger login data was used to tell if I was actually there or not. It was bought up at contract renewal which was worrying, but nothing came of it. These days I deskwarm.

This is super important. I know for a fact that my attendance is tracked through my CoolMessenger login data. Doesn't really matter what I do while I'm here as long as I'm here. I've been specifically told that I should make sure it's turned on due to "principal monitoring"

It sounds a bit like 1984.  George Orwell would be proud. 
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: StillInKorea on June 01, 2018, 10:32:23 pm
I've spent the past week's afternoons sanding, painting (touch up paint), compounding and polishing my car in the school car park. Everybody thinks I'm completely insane.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: eujunseo on June 02, 2018, 02:15:28 am
I've spent the past week's afternoons sanding, painting (touch up paint), compounding and polishing my car in the school car park. Everybody thinks I'm completely insane.

You must really love your car. Which model is it?
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: denimdaze on August 06, 2018, 08:43:47 am
I'm back to deskwarming after vacation.  My goal is to finish a craft project I started when I first came to Korea a few years ago.  I'll certainly have enough time.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Nokcha on August 08, 2018, 07:03:20 am
I'm back to deskwarming after vacation.  My goal is to finish a craft project I started when I first came to Korea a few years ago.  I'll certainly have enough time.

Good idea! I've got a few unfinished projects!

Thanks for the reminder!
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: sojuadventurer on December 24, 2018, 11:23:02 am
...and so it starts.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: lifeisgood6447 on December 24, 2018, 11:59:11 am
...and so it starts.

Right? Luckily I have no camp, but it will be a bit boring here. Mine desk warming will start next Monday. Do you at least come later and leave earlier? I sure feel bad for those that have higher-ups that make them come the full time.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: hangook77 on December 24, 2018, 02:36:32 pm
Some schools will let you leave a bit earlier while others will make you stay all day.  But, even with that, I suspect you could come in a bit later 9ish and take frequent breaks and walks or whatever. 

As for travelling, I just go to my main school during that time 5 days a week.   I don't bother travelling and going to all my other schools.  I use it if it's closest to my house.  Otherwise, I'd call the education office and try to go to the school nearest my home. 

I guess it's hobby time and watch movie time?  You can also bring in a space heater if the heating in your room isn't great.  I had a couple of schools where things were shut off before.  I just went to the finance or maintenance office and asked them to turn on the power and the heater.  If they are jackholes, bring in your own space heaters and demand the power be turned on at least.  I'd go home if it weren't.  That would be ridiculous putting up with that. 
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Mezoti97 on December 26, 2018, 08:01:14 am
You can also bring in a space heater if the heating in your room isn't great.  I had a couple of schools where things were shut off before.  I just went to the finance or maintenance office and asked them to turn on the power and the heater.  If they are jackholes, bring in your own space heaters and demand the power be turned on at least.  I'd go home if it weren't.  That would be ridiculous putting up with that.

I think most public schools are pretty strict about not allowing people to bring their own space heaters to use at school/in their classrooms, since the schools view it as a fire hazard. But I guess if someone really wanted to, they could try to do it under the table (no pun intended).
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: hangook77 on December 26, 2018, 08:50:48 am
You can also bring in a space heater if the heating in your room isn't great.  I had a couple of schools where things were shut off before.  I just went to the finance or maintenance office and asked them to turn on the power and the heater.  If they are jackholes, bring in your own space heaters and demand the power be turned on at least.  I'd go home if it weren't.  That would be ridiculous putting up with that.

I think most public schools are pretty strict about not allowing people to bring their own space heaters to use at school/in their classrooms, since the schools view it as a fire hazard. But I guess if someone really wanted to, they could try to do it under the table (no pun intended).

I've never heard of it.  But during the vacation if no one is there, bring it in and turn it on.  Do it, don't ask.  I have seen Korean teachers with tiny ones before.  I don't need it because schools have turned on the heat.  But, I have heard of some schools making the teacher come in and sit all day without turning on the heat which is absurd.  I would demand the heat get turned on or go home myself.  But if you're going to tolerate that, then bring in a space heater instead - a small one. 
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Mezoti97 on December 26, 2018, 09:18:53 am
I've never heard of it.  But during the vacation if no one is there, bring it in and turn it on.  Do it, don't ask.  I have seen Korean teachers with tiny ones before.  I don't need it because schools have turned on the heat.  But, I have heard of some schools making the teacher come in and sit all day without turning on the heat which is absurd.  I would demand the heat get turned on or go home myself.  But if you're going to tolerate that, then bring in a space heater instead - a small one.

I've been told by other NETs before that they were told by their co-teachers/schools that they weren't allowed to bring in a space heater to use at school. I don't have any personal experience with that since the only time I had a space heater while I was working as a public school teacher, I needed to use it in my apartment as the ondol ran on oil (which was super-expensive and would run out quickly in the winter), and I found that using a space heater would be cheaper for my then-apartment at the time (it was a tiny shoebox apartment). My current workplace blasts the heat full-on, so yeah, needing to bring a space heater with me to work is not necessary for me.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: hangook77 on December 26, 2018, 01:08:21 pm
I've never heard of it.  But during the vacation if no one is there, bring it in and turn it on.  Do it, don't ask.  I have seen Korean teachers with tiny ones before.  I don't need it because schools have turned on the heat.  But, I have heard of some schools making the teacher come in and sit all day without turning on the heat which is absurd.  I would demand the heat get turned on or go home myself.  But if you're going to tolerate that, then bring in a space heater instead - a small one.

I've been told by other NETs before that they were told by their co-teachers/schools that they weren't allowed to bring in a space heater to use at school. I don't have any personal experience with that since the only time I had a space heater while I was working as a public school teacher, I needed to use it in my apartment as the ondol ran on oil (which was super-expensive and would run out quickly in the winter), and I found that using a space heater would be cheaper for my then-apartment at the time (it was a tiny shoebox apartment). My current workplace blasts the heat full-on, so yeah, needing to bring a space heater with me to work is not necessary for me.

Did the school turn on the heat for them then?  I would go home if they didn't turn it on for me while insisting I couldn't use a space heater.  That's pretty disrespectful on their part.  Thankfully, it's never been an issue for me either.  I keep the heat on low so when I get up and eat my cereal in the morning, I turn one on at home for 15 or 20 minutes or so before heading to school.  (I can't sleep when it's too hot.)
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: sojuadventurer on December 26, 2018, 01:56:19 pm
...and so it starts.

Right? Luckily I have no camp, but it will be a bit boring here. Mine desk warming will start next Monday. Do you at least come later and leave earlier? I sure feel bad for those that have higher-ups that make them come the full time.

Nope, I have to come for the full time. You're lucky that you've got no camp. I've got two weeks of camp starting at the beginning of January. Can't wait until the end of January to get here, so I can take my much needed, long vacation.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Mezoti97 on December 27, 2018, 08:02:11 am
Did the school turn on the heat for them then?  I would go home if they didn't turn it on for me while insisting I couldn't use a space heater.  That's pretty disrespectful on their part.  Thankfully, it's never been an issue for me either.  I keep the heat on low so when I get up and eat my cereal in the morning, I turn one on at home for 15 or 20 minutes or so before heading to school.  (I can't sleep when it's too hot.)

I don't know what exactly the situation was for them, but in my case, I remember the public schools where I used to work in Korea were all pretty stingy about turning on the heat in the wintertime and skimped on it most of the time, so I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case for the NETs who wanted to bring in their own space heaters to use in their classrooms. I don't use a space heater in my home anymore since I no longer live in a studio apartment; utility-bills-wise, I think a space heater is better to use when living in a tiny studio and not a bigger space (otherwise the electric bill will skyrocket) -- and also, especially if the ondol runs on oil.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: SeoulAlone on December 27, 2018, 10:27:57 am
My main school is the complete opposite.  In the winter, I can crank the heat all I want, for as long as I want.  But when summer rolls around, they (admins) control the therm.  It once was 40 in my room before they thought I might need A/C.   :rolleyes: 
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Mezoti97 on December 27, 2018, 02:21:53 pm
My main school is the complete opposite.  In the winter, I can crank the heat all I want, for as long as I want.  But when summer rolls around, they (admins) control the therm.  It once was 40 in my room before they thought I might need A/C.   :rolleyes:

Sounds similar to my current workplace. I mean, I can't manually control the heat, but the building cranks the heat up full-blast in the wintertime (to the point where many of my co-workers complain that they feel too hot when at work), but the building seems to be stingier about cranking up the A/C in the summertime for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: hangook77 on December 28, 2018, 10:49:06 am
My main school is the complete opposite.  In the winter, I can crank the heat all I want, for as long as I want.  But when summer rolls around, they (admins) control the therm.  It once was 40 in my room before they thought I might need A/C.   :rolleyes:

Sounds similar to my current workplace. I mean, I can't manually control the heat, but the building cranks the heat up full-blast in the wintertime (to the point where many of my co-workers complain that they feel too hot when at work), but the building seems to be stingier about cranking up the A/C in the summertime for whatever reason.

Because the old folks love the heat.  They seem to think everyone else should love it like them.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: lelsasser on December 28, 2018, 01:14:28 pm
My main school is the complete opposite.  In the winter, I can crank the heat all I want, for as long as I want.  But when summer rolls around, they (admins) control the therm.  It once was 40 in my room before they thought I might need A/C.   :rolleyes:

Sounds similar to my current workplace. I mean, I can't manually control the heat, but the building cranks the heat up full-blast in the wintertime (to the point where many of my co-workers complain that they feel too hot when at work), but the building seems to be stingier about cranking up the A/C in the summertime for whatever reason.

Because the old folks love the heat.  They seem to think everyone else should love it like them.

Sounds like the 'healing retreat' I went on with my school staff. The ahjummas cranked that heat in our room. I was sweating all night.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: SeoulAlone on December 31, 2018, 10:19:06 am
Just said good-bye to my 3rd graders.  I only see them on Mon. and Tues., so today was our last day.  So sad!  :cry:

Desk warming starts on Thursday.  Kinna doing it now since most of classes are canceled due to graduation and well, nothing to do or teach.  Already bored! 
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: hangook77 on December 31, 2018, 12:51:32 pm
One school is still going on this week.  Mon and Thurs here and Fri start camp at one of my other schools and then Mon Tues next week.  This school Wed to Fri next week and my other school a five day camp the following week.  But my other two schools finished last week.  So, a mini holiday this week.  But camps let you leave earlier in the afternoon.  Then a week of vacation.  Then, one school comes back last week of January on Monday while one comes back Fri and the the other only comes back the next week after Seolnal.  Two schools will come back for around two weeks instead of one.  Mid Feb.  Weirdest schedule I have ever had.  So, no actual deskwarming days until the last two weeks of February or so.  But I can work out leaving early those days, depends on the school.  Also may be able to take a couple of days off in between if some schools are in session and some are not.  Oops.  But, we'll see.  I am hoping other schools aren't calling.  Some do and some don't.  So, not sure yet.  But no rest yet. 
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Datasapien on December 31, 2018, 01:03:19 pm
One school is still going on this week.  Mon and Thurs here and Fri start camp at one of my other schools and then Mon Tues next week.  This school Wed to Fri next week and my other school a five day camp the following week.  But my other two schools finished last week.  So, a mini holiday this week.  But camps let you leave earlier in the afternoon.  Then a week of vacation.  Then, one school comes back last week of January on Monday while one comes back Fri and the the other only comes back the next week after Seolnal.  Two schools will come back for around two weeks instead of one.  Mid Feb.  Weirdest schedule I have ever had.  So, no actual deskwarming days until the last two weeks of February or so.  But I can work out leaving early those days, depends on the school.  Also may be able to take a couple of days off in between if some schools are in session and some are not.  Oops.  But, we'll see.  I am hoping other schools aren't calling.  Some do and some don't.  So, not sure yet.  But no rest yet.

They should use this for the last question in next year's 수능
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: tylerthegloob on December 31, 2018, 01:25:14 pm
One school is still going on this week.  Mon and Thurs here and Fri start camp at one of my other schools and then Mon Tues next week.  This school Wed to Fri next week and my other school a five day camp the following week.  But my other two schools finished last week.  So, a mini holiday this week.  But camps let you leave earlier in the afternoon.  Then a week of vacation.  Then, one school comes back last week of January on Monday while one comes back Fri and the the other only comes back the next week after Seolnal.  Two schools will come back for around two weeks instead of one.  Mid Feb.  Weirdest schedule I have ever had.  So, no actual deskwarming days until the last two weeks of February or so.  But I can work out leaving early those days, depends on the school.  Also may be able to take a couple of days off in between if some schools are in session and some are not.  Oops.  But, we'll see.  I am hoping other schools aren't calling.  Some do and some don't.  So, not sure yet.  But no rest yet.

They should use this for the last question in next year's 수능

 :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: kevingrabb on December 31, 2018, 01:42:26 pm
Bandersnatch
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: SeoulAlone on January 07, 2019, 02:45:42 pm
I came in at 8(ish) said hello to a few people, turned around and went home, came back at three.  No one even knew I was gone.  YAY for having my own classroom and for being ignored.  :azn:
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: tylerthegloob on January 07, 2019, 02:47:33 pm
Bandersnatch

but did you jump?
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: kevingrabb on January 07, 2019, 02:50:57 pm
Bandersnatch

but did you jump?

My friend and I went back through everything and we got 90% of it done. haha

So, yes.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: tylerthegloob on January 07, 2019, 03:09:10 pm
Bandersnatch

but did you jump?

My friend and I went back through everything and we got 90% of it done. haha

So, yes.

damn. r i p
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Kyndo on January 15, 2019, 09:09:42 am
Bandersnatch
but did you jump?
My friend and I went back through everything and we got 90% of it done. haha
So, yes.
damn. r i p
:lipsrsealed:
This joke is so inside that even if it were in a Korean public school in the middle of winter, it would still be around room temperature.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: Renma on January 15, 2019, 10:51:12 am
Bandersnatch
but did you jump?
My friend and I went back through everything and we got 90% of it done. haha
So, yes.
damn. r i p
:lipsrsealed:
This joke is so inside that even if it were in a Korean public school in the middle of winter, it would still be around room temperature.

They are talking about the new Black Mirror create-your-own-adventure film, Bandersnatch.
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: AlicesCerebrum on January 15, 2019, 01:17:24 pm
Totally going to watch Bandersnatch to pass the time whilst desk-warming!
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: hangook77 on January 16, 2019, 05:45:35 am
My main school is the complete opposite.  In the winter, I can crank the heat all I want, for as long as I want.  But when summer rolls around, they (admins) control the therm.  It once was 40 in my room before they thought I might need A/C.   :rolleyes:

Sounds similar to my current workplace. I mean, I can't manually control the heat, but the building cranks the heat up full-blast in the wintertime (to the point where many of my co-workers complain that they feel too hot when at work), but the building seems to be stingier about cranking up the A/C in the summertime for whatever reason.

Because the old folks love the heat.  They seem to think everyone else should love it like them.

Sounds like the 'healing retreat' I went on with my school staff. The ahjummas cranked that heat in our room. I was sweating all night.

Yep, it's why I always turn down those trips.  It's the teachers still in their 50's which really love heat and to some extent some in their 40's.  I think many other age groups are starting to like it cooler. 
Title: Re: Deskwarming FAQ/Thread [MEGA THREAD]
Post by: wherever dreaming goes on February 17, 2020, 09:05:55 am
Catch up on movies and series you missed or want to re-watch! That may seem less than some studying or "lesson planning  :laugh:"  but if you've been here long enough, you know that your English is deteriorating and you're starting to sound like the locals when they speak English. If you don't have that friend to speak to, reading or watching stuff helps ..... and it keeps me sane.   :P