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Title: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: TexasChicken on July 12, 2022, 05:53:21 pm
Dear Mods/Arsalan please fix this ASAP.

For whatever reason this site and this site only is blocked by paypal, making it impossible for me to continue my subscription to waygook.org.

T.C.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: TexasChicken on July 12, 2022, 05:55:51 pm
I've added three different cards none of them work =P

Ebay no problem.

Gmarket no problem.

Waygook No Bueno.......

Do I delete my profile make a sock account and try that what's the solution?
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Bakeacake on July 13, 2022, 01:21:13 pm
why would you ever pay for this site when k o r s h a r e is free
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Augustiner on July 13, 2022, 01:29:16 pm
why would you ever pay for this site when k o r s h a r e is free

Hangook has an exclusivity deal for his materials with Waygook.  Can't find them anywhere else. 
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Mithras on July 13, 2022, 01:35:48 pm
why would you ever pay for this site when k o r s h a r e is free

Going there has the chance of exposing you to their chat *shudders*
It's the awkwardest and most boring trainwreck in all the land. Would you like to know the progress on English camp coloring books? Or perhaps if a chatter will eat icecream for dinner?
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: D.L.Orean on July 13, 2022, 01:45:31 pm
Hangook has an exclusivity deal for his materials with Waygook.  Can't find them anywhere else.

I think he's on there. This sounds familiar

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Makes you wonder if it's really worth it to stay here and keep teaching anymore with all this disrespect? I remember when schools let me go out at lunch to the bank or whatever with no fuss and still go home at 4:30. Why do they have to become such assholes? China, Vietnam, etc is looking good for more money and less BS in their public schools. Many even advertise no desk warming and give you the whole summer vacation off (though at reduced pay). Still, with no pay raise to the contracts for years since at least 2009, they shouldn't be putting more and more lame and stupid rules on us. It will be time to go unless they smarten up. Pay me more to put up with their BS or back off and reduce the stupid rules.

Once Covid is done, Korea is going to be in for a surprise.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Bakeacake on July 13, 2022, 01:55:06 pm
I think he's on there. This sounds familiar

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ooooh.   thats interesting...  whats the poster name?
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Bakeacake on July 13, 2022, 01:57:41 pm
Going there has the chance of exposing you to their chat *shudders*
It's the awkwardest and most boring trainwreck in all the land. Would you like to know the progress on English camp coloring books? Or perhaps if a chatter will eat icecream for dinner?

hahaha   ive certainly evesdropped on the chat before an it is exactly that.  i assume that everyone in there are all friends in real life and theyre using it as sort of an old school msn chat.  theres really no other explanation for the drivel.  they are all also brand new teachers, studying korean to get an oppar, and real hard workers.  their material is top notch because of this... mostly.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Augustiner on July 13, 2022, 02:02:22 pm
Going there has the chance of exposing you to their chat *shudders*
It's the awkwardest and most boring trainwreck in all the land. Would you like to know the progress on English camp coloring books? Or perhaps if a chatter will eat icecream for dinner?

There was one I happened on a couple of weeks ago where one regular participant on the chat who always seems to be politely ignored by the others, kept trying to bring the chat around to the fact they were leaving Korea.  No one was biting but they kept trying to steer the convo over to that topic.  It was good for a laugh.

Pororo1:  Yeah, guess I have to clean the apartment tonight
before I leave Korea.

Pororo2:  Anyone think there really is any difference between a
midnight blue and a navy blue Sharpie?

Pororo3: LOL.  I just use a pencil and say deal with it kidz

Pororo1: I'll probably find some Sharpies when I clean up
my apartment tonight LOL

Pororo1: Anyone want some Sharpies before I leave the
country for good?  LULZ

Pororo3: Just eating Costco nachos for din dins tonight. Anyone
got any good Netflix shows I can brainlessly watch while eating?

Pororo1: OMG!  Forgot about eating.  I threw out all of my food on account
of I'm leaving the country on Sunday.

Pororo2:  You need to watch Amazon's "The Summer I Got Pretty"
SOOOOO Good!

Dalgi1: OMG Guys.  I've got an open class in five minutes,
But I've got wicked gas!!

Kimchilover3:  Don't worry.  Just make sure everyone keeps their masks on.

Pororo1:  I hope I don't get gassy on the long flight out of the
country on Sunday as I leave for good LOLOLOL

Carbot4:  Jjajanggmyun for lunch today!!! I love my school!
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Bakeacake on July 13, 2022, 02:03:23 pm
paying the 5 dollar monthly subscription also seems to allow you to call other teachers pedophiles with no consequences. so, thats a bonus.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Mithras on July 13, 2022, 02:07:40 pm
August you nailed it lmao
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: 745sticky on July 13, 2022, 02:34:10 pm
i was completely unaware of the k*rshare chat function, at least now i know to avoid it
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Renma on July 13, 2022, 02:34:25 pm


This is golden hahaha
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: D.L.Orean on July 13, 2022, 02:40:22 pm
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ooooh.   thats interesting...  whats the poster name?

WEIGOOKIN74

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I've been here over a decade. My name goes back years on Daves. 74 was the only thing I could choose (not my age - ha ha). I learned of waygook and carried the name over and then carried it over here. I quit Daves a few years back. But have recently rejoined weigook744. I hope this site will be good for chatting about Korea and teaching. Let's use dave's servers for politics, world events, other countries, etc. We'll save these servers for local stuff.

I got blocked apparently for contributing lesson plans over the years. But, the text books are changing and waygook will be sol. As for the rest of it, I have tons of random lessons from waygook downloaded and saved into files over the years. So, who needs them? I will never join that site again. (Though sometimes, I sneak a read and would like to tell a couple of trollers in my absence to stuff it. But no biggie.)

I'm down far south. I'm 30;s something. So, is that an old teacher? Perhaps. I have a lot of experience here and not many things excite me the way they would a newbie. (I prob stayed too long.) But, most days, I still like it here. About the only things I can't stand are the heat and driving here.

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Congradulations from me and hangook77. Got to use this more and more. I am glad you have new books here. I have spread the word. I had to join that other site. But I am hoping after a year, telling them to stuff it and stay only with this one. If you ever seek voluntary paypal donations to build this into something, don't hesitate to ask.

Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: StillInKorea on July 13, 2022, 10:12:26 pm
I wonder if Paypal blocked the site due to complaints about being unable to cancel subscriptions.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: hangook77 on July 14, 2022, 12:29:32 pm
WEIGOOKIN74



Why am I in this rant of yours?  I come back a couple of days later and you talk non stop about me and another user?  Man, you really are a loser, if all you do is go on here day and night.  Not sure what your obsession is with me, but I already told you I was straight. 
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: hangook77 on July 14, 2022, 12:45:22 pm
I just joined Spam thanks to you New Orleans and gave you a big shout out....
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Augustiner on July 14, 2022, 01:28:59 pm
Maybe they'll welcome you to jump out a window, huh?

Well, you walked right into that one Mithras. 
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Mithras on July 14, 2022, 01:43:08 pm
He's kicking so many asses today

(https://i.imgur.com/QZSZEPU.png)
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Renma on July 14, 2022, 01:44:26 pm
Quote from: weihangookin74
I just joined this site as some losers on waygook (D.L. Orean and some others) keep talking about it and a past user named "waygookin" or something. I contributed most of my stuff to that site. I don't use a cloud, but maybe will in the future and upload here. Anyways, keep on trucking and if you are reading troll (you know who you are), keep trying....

As for the rest of you, nice to meet you.

This is hangooks genius (double digit IQ) attempt to muddy the waters over his true identity on the other website lmao.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: 745sticky on July 14, 2022, 01:45:29 pm
Maybe they'll welcome you to jump out a window, huh?

this is the first decent comeback i've ever seen out of hangook. good job!
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Bakeacake on July 14, 2022, 03:03:48 pm
F%*@, he only got muted...what a joke.

you cant get banned if you pay the subscription fee.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Augustiner on July 14, 2022, 03:43:49 pm
This is hangooks genius (double digit IQ) attempt to muddy the waters over his true identity on the other website lmao.

I donít think he realizes heís only confirming his identity by continuing to address it.  Poor guy. Heís in way over his head. 

And if multiple threats of violence donít get you banned, I really want to know what the hell Marti did. 
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Renma on July 14, 2022, 03:55:04 pm
From what I gather marty referenced the P word while feuding with Adel and Van got very upset about that? Probably it's a case of a level 3 mod happening to catch the user reports regarding Marty, whereas Van's scorched earth deletions prevented Hangook from ever being taken to task.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Adel on July 14, 2022, 04:01:48 pm
No, it was the constant harassment, from my reading. As near I can tell Marti didn't use the P word to refer to me. It was  more blatant disregard for context in which I had used it 7 years ago without referencing anyone individually or specifically.
Then again it may have been deleted before I read it.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Billy Herrington on July 14, 2022, 04:05:07 pm
Interesting. I wonder if the mods are worried about a response from law enforcement if the word gets thrown around too much.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Bakeacake on July 14, 2022, 04:07:41 pm
Interesting. I wonder if the mods are worried about a response from law enforcement if the word gets thrown around too much.

they arent
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Mr C on July 14, 2022, 04:23:50 pm
you cant get banned if you pay the subscription fee.

There's nothing about that in the TOS.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Adel on July 14, 2022, 04:27:48 pm
For the record despite complaining about Marti I never envisaged he would be banned. It was more about the gamesmanship in hoping a warning would piss him off. I honestly miss the bloke already. 
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Renma on July 14, 2022, 04:37:08 pm

Maybe it was because I called the Unification Church in the Abe shooting a "cult". Maybe it's because I made that comment about [MOD EDIT HERE. DO NOT CITE ALREADY DECLARED OFFENSIVE CONTENT (you identifying someone as a pedophile). THAT IS NOT ALLOWED ON ANY SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM] Who knows?  Anyways, I'm rambling as usual.

"Bigotry" was a slur leveled on this page. That doesn't cross the line (unless harped on repeatedly to the point of harassment). But "pedophile" crosses the line. This is clear. No MOD disagrees.

I interpreted this as meaning that's what got Marty banned. And I assume WheninRome was for provoking Davey, gagevt and Taeyang.

Again, he deletes any evidence of hangook blasting off the pedo accusations (projections) so hangook never got banned for that offense.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Adel on July 14, 2022, 04:49:47 pm
In fairness to the moderators this type of corporate culture is typical for low level employees, so after living in Korea for some time one might recognise something lesser than that  as normal. However, If I were a payed subscriber I'd expect a higher level of accountability.   
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Mr C on July 14, 2022, 07:48:04 pm
Yeah, agreed! I never got into much at all with Marti, except for a few bouts of cursing, but I'm the same...miss him being around...just his energy and quick wit at times, plus his over-reactions to innocent statements. Mostly all good fun. The old story; 'don't know what you had until it's gone'. Love him or not, he was a gem.

Whoa, slow down there, pard'ner!

As I have stated before, I don't really think a forum poplulated by (putative) adults really needs moderators running around warning people, locking threads and banning people.  But we post here under the TOS, so it is what it is.  I just want the moderation to be balanced, non-capricious and not play favorites, which, sadly, is not the case.  IMO, the only things to ban people for are threats of physical attack and doxxing.

I kinda doubt that DeMartino really did anything worthy of banning, but "gem"?  Hardly.

He may have occasionally been witty, sometimes contributed usefully to a thread, but he had over 10,000 posts--that would be the case just by the law of averages.  Monkeys at typewriters might not come up with the works of Shakespeare, but they could probably achieve a record approaching DeMartino's.

For 9,000+ of them, he was an insufferable, insulting, dishonest know-it-all, utterly incapable of self-awareness, whose main contrubtion to most any thread was to derail it.  I don't know what he is like IRL, but he exemplifies to me some of the worst traits of a poster on internet forums.

And, again, I doubt he did anything deserving of a total ban.  Warning and muting--absolutely, and literally a thousand times.  Yet I can only remember one time he was ever warned (admittedly, my memory is imperfect) and that is a real problem.  But that ain't his fault. So, maybe his Mrs Pentherby feels went to his head and he actually did cross the line. 

He certainly didn't shy away from taking up controversial--no, make that contrarian--positions, largely, I suspect, for the attention it got him.  And I certainly played to that.

He said more than once that he liked a good argument.  The problem is he never engaged in "good" argument, and this is why I think he was not so much a gem as a lump of coprolite.

His manner of "debate" was relentlessly, egregiously, dishonest: from ridiculous strawmen, absurd analogies, shifting goalposts (hell, even obvious flip-flops), word salads, shaded facts (and lies) to just straight-up name-calling and abuse, no tactic, no logical violation was beneath him.

I don't know, and don't care, what his ban will do to the hit stats on this website, but its intellectual honesty level will go through the roof.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Augustiner on July 15, 2022, 07:25:52 am
Whoa, slow down there, pard'ner!

As I have stated before, I don't really think a forum poplulated by (putative) adults really needs moderators running around warning people, locking threads and banning people.  But we post here under the TOS, so it is what it is.  I just want the moderation to be balanced, non-capricious and not play favorites, which, sadly, is not the case.  IMO, the only things to ban people for are threats of physical attack and doxxing.

I kinda doubt that DeMartino really did anything worthy of banning, but "gem"?  Hardly.

He may have occasionally been witty, sometimes contributed usefully to a thread, but he had over 10,000 posts--that would be the case just by the law of averages.  Monkeys at typewriters might not come up with the works of Shakespeare, but they could probably achieve a record approaching DeMartino's.

For 9,000+ of them, he was an insufferable, insulting, dishonest know-it-all, utterly incapable of self-awareness, whose main contrubtion to most any thread was to derail it.  I don't know what he is like IRL, but he exemplifies to me some of the worst traits of a poster on internet forums.

And, again, I doubt he did anything deserving of a total ban.  Warning and muting--absolutely, and literally a thousand times.  Yet I can only remember one time he was ever warned (admittedly, my memory is imperfect) and that is a real problem.  But that ain't his fault. So, maybe his Mrs Pentherby feels went to his head and he actually did cross the line. 

He certainly didn't shy away from taking up controversial--no, make that contrarian--positions, largely, I suspect, for the attention it got him.  And I certainly played to that.

He said more than once that he liked a good argument.  The problem is he never engaged in "good" argument, and this is why I think he was not so much a gem as a lump of coprolite.

His manner of "debate" was relentlessly, egregiously, dishonest: from ridiculous strawmen, absurd analogies, shifting goalposts (hell, even obvious flip-flops), word salads, shaded facts (and lies) to just straight-up name-calling and abuse, no tactic, no logical violation was beneath him.

I don't know, and don't care, what his ban will do to the hit stats on this website, but its intellectual honesty level will go through the roof.

I'm on the same page.  I think Martino is smart and capable of funny or clever posts.  But, for the most part he chose not to go down that route and just went on derailing threads.  He came here looking to go on the attack, even if he had to twist people's words and be patently dishonest in doing so.  He may have liked a good argument, but that's not what he engaged in.  I added him to my ignore list near the end of his run and it made a huge difference to how friendly and upbeat this place came across. 
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: 745sticky on July 15, 2022, 07:40:26 am
in fairness to marti, he actually seemed to be cooling down a bit. ofc he was at it on certain threads but i do recall him starting/contributing to a number of innocent enough discussion threads on more lighthearted topics.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: 745sticky on July 15, 2022, 07:44:41 am
I interpreted this as meaning that's what got Marty banned.

i don't think marti ever accused anyone of being that though, he was sounding off about adel supposedly using the word to refer to k-pop fans. then again maybe i missed it.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Augustiner on July 15, 2022, 07:47:15 am
in fairness to marti, he actually seemed to be cooling down a bit. ofc he was at it on certain threads but i do recall him starting/contributing to a number of innocent enough discussion threads on more lighthearted topics.

I think in some of those threads near the end he caught a glimpse of how out of control and worked up he was most of the time.  I don't know how long he could've kept up the new, take a breath and calm down Marti, look.  He has tried it before, but always reverted back to raging Marti.  It's too bad, because he is obviously a bright guy who can write well.  Anyways, 15 000 posts is a record that likely won't be topped. 
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Adel on July 15, 2022, 07:48:49 am
I didn't read much evidence of smart and clever posts. I will say he was one of most easily baited posters on this forum with his only real peer in that department that rather sensitive soul who was muted yesterday.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: 745sticky on July 15, 2022, 07:51:27 am
Anyways, 15 000 posts is a record that likely won't be topped. 

true. i remember during election season i was definitely up there with him in argumentativeness, but i don't have the energy or tenacity to keep that going year-round... of course i still got into it occasionally but mostly petered out after the election was over.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Adel on July 15, 2022, 07:57:46 am
i don't think marti ever accused anyone of being that though, he was sounding off about adel supposedly using the word to refer to k-pop fans. then again maybe i missed it.

I think you are referring to that post of mine that he dug from 2015 but I'm not sure because I only saw his post after it was edited. Even then it wasn't an accurate summation of the post.  The focus was really on the popularity and relative sizes of the female antonymy among pop divas at the time and the need for it catch on in Korea. It's something I've noticed since I've returned to Australia. That is, the amount of time young ladies spend doing booty work, ie. squats, dead lifts and pelvic thrust type work to develop enormous glutes.
Marti was seldom an honest poster. He was constantly about point scoring and winning, in his mind at least.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: shanebarry1986 on July 15, 2022, 08:28:30 am
I donít think he realizes heís only confirming his identity by continuing to address it.  Poor guy. Heís in way over his head. 

And if multiple threats of violence donít get you banned, I really want to know what the hell Marti did. 

A certain DEEPLY closeted aristocratic poster threatened to break my jaw (lol) and never even got a mute or warning.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: grimlock2 on July 15, 2022, 08:50:13 am
:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Soooo, you won't miss him even just a teensy smidgen Mr C.
That's okay, I avoided all his political stuff for a good reason. I'm pretty sure I'd feel differently if I actually understood his arguements. Sometimes being a bit thick on certain subjects is bliss.

I'll concede 'gem' was a bit much. How about we meet in the middle with unpolished coal  :wink:

All joking aside, I do know that he frustrated you emmensely.

He talked a lot of sense regarding bias, echo chambers, looking at both sides of an issue etc. but then he'd ruin it by saying something like 'you made a joke about BTS therefore you must be an overweight, balding rocker who's not down with the kids. ' A poster of contrasts.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Chinguetti on July 15, 2022, 09:20:15 am
Logic only applied when it was convenient for him. His arguments would devolve into fallacies real quick whenever logic or facts didn't support his agendas, and he most certainly had agendas. His goal wasn't really to engage in discussion at all, he usually wanted to kill it, and he didn't care how he went about it.

He got in his own way, and maybe he was coming around to realizing that here and there, but naw, that wasn't gonna go away. Too ingrained.

He isn't stupid. He's just full of shit.

There, that's my contribution to the Marti trash talk.
Title: Re: Paying this websites subscription fee is impossible
Post by: Mr C on July 15, 2022, 09:35:01 am
He talked a lot of sense regarding bias, echo chambers, looking at both sides of an issue etc. but then he'd ruin it by saying something like 'you made a joke about BTS therefore you must be an overweight, balding rocker who's not down with the kids. ' A poster of contrasts.

Contrasts?

ITYMTS, deceit and hypocrisy.