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Title: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: VanIslander on June 25, 2022, 11:16:55 am
Is it so yesterday?
Or is it endemic?

Inbetween it continues to be a part of our daily lives yet the last 93 posts and 24 threads have had nithing to do with COVID.

Is it gone or is it overlooked?
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: kevingrabb on June 25, 2022, 12:09:35 pm
It's been under ten thousand cases for two weeks. We're highly vacced.

No one cares, including me. I'll wear the mask, I'll avoid nightclubs but I'm not going to change any routines, much like I haven't the last 2 years.

I'll eat out, I'll go see movies, I'll meet friends. I'm done.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: VanIslander on June 25, 2022, 12:30:18 pm
A student of mine was absent last Monday because she had COVID (half-whispered to me): i continually tell boys to pull their masks up (not a single female ever has ever had an uncovered nose in the classroom during this era. Figure that.)

Movies, TV,... corn!
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on June 25, 2022, 01:03:54 pm
Sanity is returning. People thankfully realized that the prevention wasn't worth the disruption.

Unfortunately too late because the smartest people in the room (the "experts", often Euros and Democrats) didn't plan for a war that would send extreme shocks through everything on top and now we have massive inflation and a looming food crisis, which we might have been able to handle had we kept things open, but nope.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Augustiner on June 25, 2022, 01:12:04 pm
A student of mine was absent last Monday because she had COVID (half-whispered to me):


Which part did they whisper?
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: VanIslander on June 25, 2022, 02:17:32 pm
Which part did they whisper?
"corona" (the Konglish equivalent of COVID19, not the drink, which some of us covet on a hot day: "I want a Corona, please!";  nor of course the area around the sun).

Rye says there are (basically doubling down on a bad take imo) 70 km/hr zones in Korea. Or else we have just been driving on different roads for decades. Rye is right or full of it.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: VanIslander on June 25, 2022, 02:46:09 pm
https://youtu.be/DJsn1QivbKM
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: SPQR on June 25, 2022, 02:52:54 pm

Sanity is returning. People thankfully realized that the prevention wasn't worth the disruption.


Haha, tell that to the million plus dead in the USA and their families. Moreover, without
strict mask guidelines and lockdowns, this number may well have been ten times that
number. I thought this was supposed to be obvious now for most educated people.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Mr C on June 25, 2022, 08:19:44 pm
Sanity is returning. People thankfully realized that the prevention wasn't worth the disruption.

Unfortunately too late because the smartest people in the room (the "experts", often Euros and Democrats) didn't plan for a war that would send extreme shocks through everything on top and now we have massive inflation and a looming food crisis, which we might have been able to handle had we kept things open, but nope.

You have completely failed to understand what has happened.  As is too often the case.

The argument that "the prevention wasn't worth the disruption" puts you in the same intellectual category as Ron DeSantis, Lauren Bobert, MJ Greene, Boris Johnson and Trump.  Which is "anti".

Cases are way down, because "the prevention" worked.  The most deadly variants were suffocated and replaced by a much less virulent strain.  Were it not for social distancing, masks, sterilizing, et al, and especially vaccination! any sensible person recognizes that things could have been much worse--not that 1 million + American deaths is remotely okay. 

Omicron is much less worrying than previous strains, so people are less worried.  However, there's still the chance that another more deadly version may emerge, so we should retain our good habits for some time.

Because I am on the upper side of vulnerability, with age and health factors, I was extremely diligent myself, fully vaxxed.  And yet still got the virus in May.

The only way I knew I had it was the weekly Ag test we were supposed to do--I did it twice that day because I couldn't believe it.  I felt no symptoms, but had to sit at home for a week.  And at no time had any symptoms whatsoever.  Among the items the health center sent me to monitor myself was a fingertip oximeter, and I always measured 99%, for example.  Temp. never above 36.6.  A team KKT'd me three times a day to check in.  I am grateful for the sensible system which prevented larger-scale outbreaks and rampant spreading that might have caught me in the first or delta phase, when my outcome could have been much worse.  But go ahead and wish I had gotten really sick or died. (JK, I know that's not what you meant--but it is the possible result of your idea, so ...)

How on point it is for you, too, to blame the effects of the war on "Euros and Democrats" rather than on, say, PUTIN.  In truth, the only thing that would be much different would just be a whole lot more dead people, and they can't grow crops or operate ships any better than living people with masks and social distancing. 
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: VanIslander on June 25, 2022, 08:23:22 pm
... the million plus dead in the USA...
STOP.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: 745sticky on June 27, 2022, 08:13:39 am
Were it not for social distancing, masks, sterilizing, et al, and especially vaccination! any sensible person recognizes that things could have been much worse--not that 1 million + American deaths is remotely okay. 

true, and i think all that is good, but america was fully locked down for a pretty insane amount of time. i feel like we didnt lockdown fast enough (a faster response probably would have saved more lives than even stricter measures later), and when we were late we tried to over-compensate.

Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: hangook77 on June 27, 2022, 08:18:52 am
It's on the decline.  Omicron and other variants are more mild as time goes on.  Monkey pox is the next big fear spun by the media.  But it's mostly gay men it seems.  Keep protection and it shouldn't be a problem much. 
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Kayos on June 27, 2022, 08:46:36 am
I still wear my mask, my Friday school has asked me to stop wearing it while I teach, but I've refused, cause I haven't seen any government guidelines that say we can stop wearing them indoors.
Plus I'm headed to nz this summer, and don't want to risk getting it close to my departure time.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: hangook77 on June 27, 2022, 08:50:16 am
I still wear my mask, my Friday school has asked me to stop wearing it while I teach, but I've refused, cause I haven't seen any government guidelines that say we can stop wearing them indoors.
Plus I'm headed to nz this summer, and don't want to risk getting it close to my departure time.

Really?  It is still the rule to wear indoors. I would avoid wearing it if I could.  But when I have a room or office to myself, I take off.  I put anti bacterial wipes on my desk when I come to my school that day.  I have 4 schools. 
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on June 27, 2022, 10:54:41 am
Haha, tell that to the million plus dead in the USA and their families.
Masks worked up until people got home and took theirs off. They had some mild effect, but they were utterly useless when a strong variant hit- see Korea, South.

There's a reason Korea basically said "eff it" and ripped off the band-aid of lockdowns and let the thing run riot and then burn itself out (to the point where people were basically hoping they caught COVID so they could be done with it). They and the public finally realized that the continued costs were unsustainable and that the only way to move forward was to let what happens happen.

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I thought this was supposed to be obvious now for most educated people
Most educated people would understand that there are a host of variables that go into outcomes and why you can get significantly different outcomes between countries that had similar practices, thus suggesting that there are factors beyond those we normally associate.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on June 27, 2022, 11:04:01 am
You have completely failed to understand what has happened.  As is too often the case.

The argument that "the prevention wasn't worth the disruption" puts you in the same intellectual category as Ron DeSantis,
Well, the jury is still out on that because the receipts from the disruption are only now starting to come in and will be coming in over the next 10-20 years. Unfortunately, the so called "experts" were all confined to a few fields and thus had little awareness and understanding of the effects their decisions would have on other things. This is the problem with relying on academia- It is so narrowly focused that the people at the top of the field often struggle to grasp things outside of their narrow focus, even within their own departments (i.e. doctors who treat addiction were much more ambivalent about certain social restrictions than the epidemiologists). Add to this that the standard way for academics and researchers to operate is to eliminate as many variables as possible and you see why they are so bad at anticipating unforeseen variables and effects.

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Cases are way down, because "the prevention" worked.
Cases are down the same reason cases in 1350 were way down of the Black Death vs. 1348.

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The most deadly variants were suffocated
Odd way to describe evolution.

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Were it not for social distancing, masks, sterilizing, et al, and especially vaccination!
Limited efficacy of all three as practiced suggests that their effect while there, is not as significant as some would attribute.

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not that 1 million + American deaths is remotely okay
What number is "okay"?

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However, there's still the chance that another more deadly version may emerge, so we should retain our good habits for some time
This is the case with anything.

You can't live your life afraid.

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How on point it is for you, too, to blame the effects of the war on "Euros and Democrats" rather than on, say, PUTIN. 
You can't control Putin. You however can prepare yourself and do things so that he can't take as much advantage of a situation.

Also, Pearl Harbor was the fault of Yamamoto and the Japanese. That doesn't mean Kimmel and Short and everyone else get a pass. When you make policy you have to consider ALL factors, including the possibility that a bad actor will take advantage of a disrupted supply chain and economy and make things even worse.

Turns out the "experts" were too dimwitted to think of that possibility. Glad we listened to them. However some whom people call  "dimwits" DID warn about this kind of thing. They were dismissed as idiots because they're rough around the edges or don't rub shoulders and sip champagne with the "smartest people in the room" 
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: JenniferNZ1 on June 27, 2022, 12:55:58 pm
I still wear my mask, my Friday school has asked me to stop wearing it while I teach, but I've refused, cause I haven't seen any government guidelines that say we can stop wearing them indoors.
Plus I'm headed to nz this summer, and don't want to risk getting it close to my departure time.

I use a clear mask for teaching and I think it is easier for the students when I do.  I, also, would not be comfortable not wearing a mask while teaching.  Especially when I am teaching at more than one school.  I am hoping to visit NZ this summer vacation time as I haven't seen family since early 2020.  Winter in NZ is not my favorite time but I will be unable to visit in January/February as I don't get a winter vacation at my main school - due to major renovations during a long summer vacation. 
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Kayos on June 27, 2022, 01:08:49 pm
Really?  It is still the rule to wear indoors. I would avoid wearing it if I could.  But when I have a room or office to myself, I take off.  I put anti bacterial wipes on my desk when I come to my school that day.  I have 4 schools.

Yeah, my co-teacher wants 1 particular class to see my mouth movements while I teach. And I don't have any of the clear ones.
And I don't want anything to mess up being able to fly back to NZ for my vacation.
I also take my mask off if I'm alone, though.
But, I also have no problem wear a mask 99% of the time, sometimes they do make my nose itch though. D:
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Kayos on June 27, 2022, 01:11:25 pm
I use a clear mask for teaching and I think it is easier for the students when I do.  I, also, would not be comfortable not wearing a mask while teaching.  Especially when I am teaching at more than one school.  I am hoping to visit NZ this summer vacation time as I haven't seen family since early 2020.  Winter in NZ is not my favorite time but I will be unable to visit in January/February as I don't get a winter vacation at my main school - due to major renovations during a long summer vacation.

I don't mind winter in NZ except for when it's raining haha. I haven't seen my family back there since about 2018 myself, I think.
Why wouldn't you get winter vacation if the renovations are happening during summer? couldn't you go to a travel school, or do work from home if the school is unable to prove a place for you to go instead of, what I assume, is making you use all your vacay during summer? :O
I hope your break back home is great regardless!
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: JenniferNZ1 on June 27, 2022, 03:16:16 pm
The school is working right through the winter vacation time - all students and teachers.  It isn't just me. so I can't really complain (but complaining is fun sometimes).  However due to working at two schools I only get a 2 week solid break.  The other school has normal vacation and I have to get all the summer and winter camps done in summer.  A lot of work.  Especially as I cannot do an inperson camp at the main school and it has to be online camps.  I hate online camps and had hoped I was finished with them!  Ha, ha, ha.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: confusedsafferinkorea on June 27, 2022, 05:36:51 pm
The school is working right through the winter vacation time - all students and teachers

When will Koreans learn what the word 'vacation' means?
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Augustiner on June 28, 2022, 07:55:09 am
The school is working right through the winter vacation time - all students and teachers

When will Koreans learn what the word 'vacation' means?

I think she's from New Zealand based on the other information she provided.  Anyways, Koreans adapt a number of English words and we all know what they mean.  Unless they're my students I don't bother correcting them if I understand them.  They say winter vacation where we would say winter break.  It's ok with me. 
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: L I on June 28, 2022, 08:26:20 am
Beijing Daily, the official Communist Party newspaper for the Chinese capital, earlier reported that the city's party chief, Cai Qi, said Monday that "for the next five years, Beijing will resolutely implement Covid-19 pandemic control measures and uphold the 'zero-Covid' policy to prevent imported cases from coming in and domestic cases from rebounding."

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/27/asia/china-zero-covid-policy-intl/index.html

The pandemic controls that would stay in place include routine PCR tests, strict entry rules, regular health checks in residential neighborhoods and public venues, as well as rigorous monitoring and testing for people entering and leaving Beijing, state media quoted Cai as saying.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: D.L.Orean on June 28, 2022, 08:28:00 am
Beijing Daily, the official Communist Party newspaper for the Chinese capital, earlier reported that the city's party chief, Cai Qi, said Monday that "for the next five years, Beijing will resolutely implement Covid-19 pandemic control measures and uphold the 'zero-Covid' policy to prevent imported cases from coming in and domestic cases from rebounding."

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/27/asia/china-zero-covid-policy-intl/index.html

The pandemic controls that would stay in place include routine PCR tests, strict entry rules, regular health checks in residential neighborhoods and public venues, as well as rigorous monitoring and testing for people entering and leaving Beijing, state media quoted Cai as saying.

Bad news for hangook
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: L I on June 28, 2022, 08:30:39 am
The head of the World Health Organization (WHO) is being censored on China's internet after questioning the sustainability of the country's zero-Covid policy.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/11/china/who-china-zero-covid-unsustainable-intl-hnk/index.html

Tedros' comments, though in line with the assessment of most scientists, have also drawn the ire of Beijing, which called them "irresponsible."

Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Augustiner on June 28, 2022, 09:44:58 am
Bad news for hangook

On the contrary, that's great news for Hangook.  He never really intended to go, so now he can say "If it wasn't for these damn restrictions I'd be there right now." 
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: hangook77 on July 11, 2022, 10:45:52 am
On the contrary, that's great news for Hangook.  He never really intended to go, so now he can say "If it wasn't for these damn restrictions I'd be there right now." 

I already said I make a higher salary here and didn't need to go right now but would consider once restrictions are gone.  For those making 2.1 to 2,4ish, they can look at China as the salaries are quite a bit higher.  But, I also said covid is throwing a wrench into things.  As for this, will it really be 5 years?  Or will it be until their party election this fall? 

There was a young member on here recently saying he found the wages and savings BS here and that Korea was not as advertised by recruiters, word of mouth, etc. 
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Billy Herrington on July 11, 2022, 10:51:50 am
You can go to China, but start-up costs are prohibitive right now, and you might get caught in a brutal lockdown.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: hangook77 on July 11, 2022, 12:05:56 pm
You can go to China, but start-up costs are prohibitive right now, and you might get caught in a brutal lockdown.

Start up costs?  I thought I read most employers pay the quarantine cost.  I do understand you have to buy the electricity cost and other utilities in advance.  As for apartments, many employers will give you or give you an allowance.  As I understand it Shenzhen is the worst for pay, rent, etc.  But many other places, pay is decent with cheaper rent.  Tier 2 cities which actually have large indoor shopping malls and the like which most metro cities outside of Seoul here in Korea don't have.   There are some Shenzhen public school jobs I wouldn't touch due to reasons mentioned above.  I prefer a tier 2 city one if there is no or low time spent desk warming and long vacations.  (This is what rural EPIK was like up until 10 years ago or so.) 
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Billy Herrington on July 11, 2022, 12:14:20 pm
I think there are some misconceptions about coming to China going around. It's not just tick the box stuff. You'd be lucky to make it on the first attempt. Airfares from the US run into the tens of thousands and routinely get cancelled. Most airlines will only offer credit and your expensive covid tests will all time out. The flights only operate once per week so if you don't live close to the airport you'll need to fly back home. You really think your employer is going to pay for all that?
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: hangook77 on July 11, 2022, 12:31:29 pm
I think there are some misconceptions about coming to China going around. It's not just tick the box stuff. You'd be lucky to make it on the first attempt. Airfares from the US run into the tens of thousands and routinely get cancelled. Most airlines will only offer credit and your expensive covid tests will all time out. The flights only operate once per week so if you don't live close to the airport you'll need to fly back home. You really think your employer is going to pay for all that?

Well, as I said, it's better to wait until after covid.

As for start ups, I just meant quarantine fees ocne arrived.  In Korea, EPIK made people pay their own which was quite the BS. 
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Billy Herrington on July 11, 2022, 12:43:15 pm
Well, as I said, it's better to wait until after covid.


I'm pretty sure most users on this board will be past China's age cut off by then. China doesn't have any plans to end Covid restrictions. They haven't outlined any criteria that needs to be achieved to end Zero Covid, and they have shifted the goalposts multiple times. I wouldn't hold out hope.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: SPQR on July 12, 2022, 03:27:04 pm
Is it so yesterday?
Or is it endemic?

Inbetween it continues to be a part of our daily lives yet the last 93 posts and 24 threads have had nithing to do with COVID.

Is it gone or is it overlooked?

I don't think I am the only one who is seriously sick of Covid-19.

I wonder if the Spanish flu hung on for years too.


Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Bakeacake on July 12, 2022, 04:09:25 pm
korea is supposed to be offering up some new covid 19 guidelines tomorrow.  im curious what i tmight entail.   as the indoor mask one is the only thing that matters thats still left.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: L I on July 12, 2022, 04:15:37 pm
South Korea's new coronavirus cases surged to a two-month high of over 37,000 on Tuesday, driven by the spread of a highly contagious new omicron subvariant and deepening concerns over another virus wave.

https://m-en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220712002152320
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Lazio on July 12, 2022, 04:34:31 pm
korea is supposed to be offering up some new covid 19 guidelines tomorrow.  im curious what i tmight entail.   as the indoor mask one is the only thing that matters thats still left.

Unfortunately, it's more likely that they will bring back some restrictions. I'm thinking maybe they would limit again the number of people that can gather. We'll see. But don't expect the mask mandate to be gone.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: SPQR on July 13, 2022, 02:38:32 pm

40,000+ today. WTF. Here we go again.

https://search.naver.com/search.naver?where=nexearch&sm=top_sug.pre&fbm=1&acr=1&acq=%EC%BD%94&qdt=0&ie=utf8&query=%EC%BD%94%EB%A1%9C%EB%82%98+%ED%99%95%EC%A7%84%EC%9E%90
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: L I on July 13, 2022, 03:04:41 pm
Citing experts, Prime Minister Han Duck-soo said daily infections are expected to top 200,000 between mid-August and end-September.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: L I on July 13, 2022, 03:20:30 pm
Being scared forever is an awful way to live.

It’s never going away.

And it’s not that dangerous (for almost everyone).

Get vaccinated and / or keep your immune system strong and there’s nothing to worry about.

The problem is perception.

The pandemic is over when we decide it is over.

“Who gives a sh*t about this mild ailment” should be the proper response in areas where the vaccine has been available for years.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Savant on July 13, 2022, 04:11:16 pm
Here we go again!

Korea really needs to stop requiring vaccinated travelers to get Covid tested before coming here.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: VanIslander on July 13, 2022, 09:47:44 pm
I was informed on Tuesday that little Emma from my 2nd grade elementary school class in the tiny six-desk hagwon room had tested positive for COVID19 that day, she sitting the day before in the front row. In that class, fortunately, I had Jenny - who was sniffling sick (just a cold virus, as she too was tested Tuesday) - a slow student who took a lot of my attention on the other side of the room (note: though, the other side of the room was just about 3 meters away as the room is three desks wide, two rows deep!), so, I being preoccupied, ... the diligent, accurate Emma needed to touch bases with me just a couple of times, and I didn't need to hunch over her desk (we're finishing the unit on animals and her spelling of giraffe, gorilla, crane, magpie and seagull was solid and i didn't need to check it, just asked her to spell the words for those who were struggling to unscramble the letters).

Fortunately, under those circumstances, I haven't got COVID19 again.

 But Emma was the 3rd student of mine in the last 10 days to get that coronavirus (all different ages, different classes), and... I have well under a hundred students! I have wondered if the high rates are coming back.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: L I on July 14, 2022, 05:38:01 am
Interesting stat:

more than 97 percent of eligible adults in South Korea are fully vaccinated

https://m.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20220713000653

Starting next week, eligibility for fourth doses of COVID-19 vaccines, so far offered only to people aged 60 years and older, will open up to people in their 50s as well.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Adel on July 14, 2022, 05:48:50 am
Except for health authorities it had been pretty much forgotten here until the recent increase in cases with the emergence of the BA.4 and BA.5 sub-variants. The mask mandates have only applied to public transport but I've noticed a lot more people wearing them in shopping malls lately. A fourth dose of a vaccine is now recommended for people over the age of 50. Both my wife and I still haven't caught it yet, unless it was an asymptomatic infection. Perhaps it's because we eat so much garlic.  I'm not sure if I'll bother with a fourth dose. I have about 6 months months of paid sick leave up my sleeve and can't say I'm enjoying teaching in hybrid mode at the moment.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: VanIslander on July 14, 2022, 07:14:07 pm
'Centaurus'
A deadly virus shouldn't have such a cool name.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Chinguetti on July 15, 2022, 09:23:10 am
I was hoping they named the next variant Persei 8.

Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Billy Herrington on July 16, 2022, 07:56:58 pm
I got my booster shot. Hope I'm protected.  I don't know how it works against the new variants.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: VanIslander on August 04, 2022, 01:28:04 am
Just before my vacay i read a news report talking about the gov't tightening testing for foreign arrivals and cited 300-ish new cases from arrivals. Later in the story there was cited a 60,000+ new cases nationwide, down from 90,000+ cases the day before. ... 300 out of 60,000 requires a change in policy? Yes, if 'foreigner as threat' (a nice way to put it) is still a resonating message here, which it is, absurdly so in this context.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Billy Herrington on August 04, 2022, 08:30:52 pm
But the real question is can elephants get covid?
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: L I on September 23, 2022, 03:10:49 pm
Under the decision set to go into effect Monday, those at outdoor gatherings of 50 or more people, and sporting events and concerts will not be required to wear masks.

https://m-en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220923002700315?section=national/politics

Rules for indoor mask wearing, however, will remain in place.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Bakeacake on September 23, 2022, 04:05:17 pm
Under the decision set to go into effect Monday, those at outdoor gatherings of 50 or more people, and sporting events and concerts will not be required to wear masks.

https://m-en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220923002700315?section=national/politics

Rules for indoor mask wearing, however, will remain in place.

just in time for the massive BTS concert to showcase the city of Busan to the world for their world expo bid....   Thatll make em all think were really on top of it
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Adel on September 23, 2022, 06:24:58 pm
But the real question is can elephants get covid?

Mmm, deer do so why wouldn't elephants?
Less crowded living conditions, elevated snouts?
The mind boggles.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: VanIslander on September 23, 2022, 06:49:54 pm
... elevated snouts...
Nice. It's refreshing to encounter a new description. Especially when apt not forced.

I think it'll be a great candidate for my upcoming NHL hockey fantasy league team name: Elevated Snouts. ... Wait, now it sounds uppity, no longer about elephants. Ugh.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Adel on September 24, 2022, 03:52:55 am
Nice. It's refreshing to encounter a new description. Especially when apt not forced.

I think it'll be a great candidate for my upcoming NHL hockey fantasy league team name: Elevated Snouts. ... Wait, now it sounds uppity, no longer about elephants. Ugh.

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I'm told creating one is a popular surgical procedure for Korean plastic surgeons too!

(https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3443243621c6b35a90f9c5094394efa3-lq)

Nonetheless, I was born with one so there was no need for plastic surgery. However, now I wonder if it has played a role in avoiding a Covid-19 infection to this date. 

Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Spliced on September 24, 2022, 09:15:06 am
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I'm told creating one is a popular surgical procedure for Korean plastic surgeons too!

(https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3443243621c6b35a90f9c5094394efa3-lq)

Nonetheless, I was born with one so there was no need for plastic surgery. However, now I wonder if it has played a role in avoiding a Covid-19 infection to this date.

So proud to be Korean...yet so ashamed to look Korean.


...figures.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: VanIslander on September 24, 2022, 05:13:49 pm
Damn.

We started at elephants and ended at cosmetic surgery.

My bad.

(I should have realized that mentioning "snouts" would juice up a portion of the population of the country that gets the most nose jobs.)
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Augustiner on September 25, 2022, 07:48:28 am


My bad.

(I should have realized that mentioning "snouts" would juice up a portion of the population of the country that gets the most nose jobs.)

Nope. Adel mentioned snouts, not you.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: Adel on September 25, 2022, 12:29:08 pm
Nope. Adel mentioned snouts, not you.

Elevated snouts rather than snouts per-se, to be fair.
Title: Re: The forgotten elephant in the room: COVID(19).
Post by: VanIslander on September 25, 2022, 01:15:52 pm
Mmm, deer do so why wouldn't elephants?
Less crowded living conditions, elevated snouts?
The mind boggles.
Indeed. This is the first reference to "elevated snouts" on this site, and in my life. He stated it and i mentioned it.

I cheered it as an original description (not hackneyed or tired or trite).