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Title: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on October 19, 2021, 02:23:53 pm
State your unpopular opinions here. Anything you want to get off your chest.

Unpopular Opinion: Qdoba is better than Chipotle. Chipotle ain't bad, but I liked Qdoba's rice, cheese and meats far better. They just had a "cleaner" taste compared to Chipotle.

Unpopular Opinion: The Phantom Menace was a good movie except for Jar-Jar. Probably one of the best of the entire series. Better than Return of the Jedi. Better than that overdone The Empire Strikes Back.

Unpopular Opinion: Rap/Hip-Hop has been more influential on today's young people than rock. If the two were a line on a graph in terms of influence, rap has either passed or is close to passing on its share of influence. That doesn't mean rock's influence is nil, just that it's share has been steadily declining for over 20 years now.

Unpopular Opinion: Okay, maybe not so unpopular, but Janeway murdered Tuvix, the crew of the Voyager were accessories and they all should have been court-martialed. And the Maquis members were a disgrace to the Maquis for not fighting Janeway on this. Also, Although i think Janeway went over the top and over the line on the Equinox, at least I sympathize with her there and see her point.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: nightninja on October 19, 2021, 02:30:19 pm

Unpopular Opinion: Qdoba is better than Chipotle. Chipotle ain't bad, but I liked Qdoba's rice, cheese and meats far better. They just had a "cleaner" taste compared to Chipotle.


I agree....loved their bowls... also weren't they a little cheaper? I don't remember.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: CO2 on October 19, 2021, 02:48:43 pm
People who preface everything with "In my opinion," are daft.

Unless you're exclusively talking to people under 14, there's no need. Do you really think subjective/objective needs to be clarified every time you open your mouth? Stop being afraid of telling people what you think. We know you're not God.

Conversely, the opposite is true, too. If I say The Beatles are the greatest band in history, you don't need to chime in with "That's your opinion, it's not a fact" or "Musical taste is subjective."

Yes, frigging obviously. Do these people think they sound intelligent?  "HEY GUYS, I JUST DISCOVERED WHAT FACTS VS OPINIONS ARE AT THE RIPE OLD AGE OF 26.

Congrats.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: CO2 on October 19, 2021, 02:53:40 pm
Also, the "abortions are no big deal and they should flow free like water" people are, not as bad as the religious right, but Jesus, have some humility.

Abortions are rough. And yes, you are stopping a future life from growing and no, it's not comparable to pulling out or "wasting your seed."

Once the egg is breached, that's a future human. I'm FOR abortion, but can we stop pretending like abortions are no big deal/just a medical procedure/my body, my choice?

It's a future human that is being snuffed out. Is a clump of cells a human? I honestly don't know, I don't think we CAN know, but stop pretending like you're not getting rid of a future kid that's brewing in there. It is.

Again, I am for legal safe abortions for all, but some people take it way too far in the other direction. Have SOME humility.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: CO2 on October 19, 2021, 03:02:41 pm
You have time to read and workout, you're just too lazy to do it.

Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: tylerthegloob on October 19, 2021, 03:13:29 pm
You have time to be diamond in league AND have a social life, you're just too lazy to do it
The hardest choices require the strongest wills
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: 745sticky on October 19, 2021, 03:20:21 pm
Unless you're exclusively talking to people under 14, there's no need. Do you really think subjective/objective needs to be clarified every time you open your mouth? Stop being afraid of telling people what you think. We know you're not God.

unfortunately a feature of the terminally-online era is that if you don't explicitly clarify the difference between opinion and fact people will deliberately misconstrue it if they don't like you. hell, even if you do plaster "in my opinion" over everything, they'll edit that out and misconstrue it anyways 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Adel on October 19, 2021, 04:26:29 pm
The problem I have is when posters are above 26 years old and still cannot differentiate between fact and opinion. For example.

okay? they're also all pretty easily demonstrable facts of the 2016 election. also, i'd love to see some actual examples of these memes you keep talking about, because for all you people go on about them nobody's been able to link me to any.

- the Dems are inept
in 2016? they def were. Hillarys campaign team was a mess and basically split into two camps (Bill Clinton/his friends/Hillary's old staffers vs. Robby Mook). along with the whole operation being completely disjointed she also stuck it out with the wrong side, ironically enough she would've been better off listening to Bill, who was more for lots of smaller events/talking to as many people as possible/etc, as opposed to Mook who basically ran much of the campaign off of advertising/social media.

- Hillary is a shit candidate who spoke down to her voterbase in key states
i mean, she did. or, even worse, she didn't speak to a lot of them at all.

- the voterbase are fed up with the establishment
they were. i think trump's election is pretty solid proof of that, lol. hillary's campaign didn't offer anything new other than first female president and people weren't buying it.

- Trump talks a good game
he did overall. obviously you can find plenty of instances to the contrary but his general rhetoric pretty well matched what the electorate were looking for. now obviously im not saying he meant it or followed up on it or anything... just that he talked a good game, which he did.

- americans are racist and also let's give them lots of conspiracy theories
russia didnt give us qanon or pizzagate or anti-maskers or any of that shit. again, russia isnt some magical bogeyman thats responsible for everything wrong with america, we can come up with stupid conspiracy theories ourselves.



Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on October 19, 2021, 04:29:55 pm
You have time to be diamond in league AND have a social life, you're just too lazy to do it
The hardest choices require the strongest wills
You have time to dress up your dog as Boba Fett AND learn Elvish!
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: 745sticky on October 20, 2021, 07:55:44 am
The problem I have is when posters are above 26 years old and still cannot differentiate between fact and opinion. For example.

1) I'm not above 26 years old
2) Those are all, in fact, easily demonstrable facts, if you'd read actual journalism or pick up literally any book about the 2016 election. Not my fault you're willfully ignorant
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Adel on October 20, 2021, 08:13:35 am
1) I'm not above 26 years old
2) Those are all, in fact, easily demonstrable facts, if you'd read actual journalism or pick up literally any book about the 2016 election. Not my fault you're willfully ignorant
Well, I'll forgive you on account of your age but I can't be arsed teaching you the difference.  All the best though! ;D

Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: 745sticky on October 20, 2021, 08:34:01 am
Well, I'll forgive you on account of your age but I can't be arsed teaching you the difference.  All the best though! ;D

If it makes you feel any better, I'm sure I'll have plenty of fun myself dealing with the TikTok generation of quarantine times
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Liechtenstein on October 20, 2021, 08:51:21 am
There is a very big difference in someone saying

A) The Beatles are the greatest band in history.

and

B) I think The Beatles are the greatest band in history.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: CO2 on October 20, 2021, 08:53:42 am
There is a very big difference in someone saying

A) The Beatles are the greatest band in history.

and

B) I think The Beatles are the greatest band in history.

There isn't though. Everyone knows that they're both opinions.

Unless you're seven years old. What is this meekness? "Well, uh, is it okay if I, uhhhh, speak, please?"

If you have an opinion, just say it. Don't be a dick about it, but you don't need to qualify it with "Here is what I think."
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: tylerthegloob on October 20, 2021, 09:14:27 am
facts are just popular opinions
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: grimlock2 on October 20, 2021, 09:15:09 am
Quote
There is a very big difference in someone saying

A) The Beatles are the greatest band in history.

and

B) I think The Beatles are the greatest band in history.

There isn't though. Everyone knows that they're both opinions.

Unless you're seven years old. What is this meekness? "Well, uh, is it okay if I, uhhhh, speak, please?"

If you have an opinion, just say it. Don't be a dick about it, but you don't need to qualify it with "Here is what I think."


It's not as simple as that.  Your example is easier to spot as an opinion because it's a superlative. However, there is art which is recognised as being great, even though you might not personally like it. E.g. a person might say 'The Sistine Chapel is a great work of art' , even though they might not personally want to have it on their ceiling. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Liechtenstein on October 20, 2021, 11:55:45 am
There isn't though. Everyone knows that they're both opinions.

Unless you're seven years old. What is this meekness? "Well, uh, is it okay if I, uhhhh, speak, please?"

If you have an opinion, just say it. Don't be a dick about it, but you don't need to qualify it with "Here is what I think."

I am sorry, but you are wrong. My degree was in communication and I am telling you that "A" is objective and leaves no room for arguement. While "B" is subjective and entirely based on opinion, thus making it a valid statement.

Seriously, would you argue with someone if they said, "K2 is the tallest mountain on earth." Of course you would because they are wrong.

In example "A", all it takes is one person to disagree with the statement and it becomes invalid. There are plenty of people that hate The Beatles. Of course none of them know good music, but that is subjective too.

If you met someone and the only vegetable they had ever eaten in their entire life was brussel sprouts and they said, "Brussel sprouts are the most delicious vegetable in the world." Would you flat out agree with them or would you argue another point?

Man up, and admit you are wrong. You'll look better.

There is a difference between: "A" is the best, and, I think "A" is the best. (Unless of course "A" is the best in whatever happens to be being discussed.)

If you can't see that take a communication course.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Kyndo on October 20, 2021, 12:02:56 pm
facts are just popular opinions

And here I thought that we could be friends.
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Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: CO2 on October 20, 2021, 12:04:38 pm
Seriously, would you argue with someone if they said, "K2 is the tallest mountain on earth."Of course you would because they are wrong.

And that would be factually incorrect.

It's hardly the same thing. "The best" is inherently subjective and doesn't need clarification on it being an opinion or not.

It being INHERENT is the idea here. Again, if someone says "That galbi restaurant is the best restaurant in Seoul," are you gonna be that guy?

"Well, Mr. Kim that is your opinion. Not everyone will share it, it is inherently subjective."

Guess who looks dumber? It's not Mr. Kim. You can either

A) ask why Mr. Kim thinks that

B) counter with a different opinion

or C) placate him "Wow, that's so interesting Mr. Kim."

Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: D.L.Orean on October 20, 2021, 12:06:00 pm
I am sorry, but you are wrong. My degree was in communication and I am telling you that "A" is objective and leaves no room for arguement. While "B" is subjective and entirely based on opinion, thus making it a valid statement.

Seriously, would you argue with someone if they said, "K2 is the tallest mountain on earth." Of course you would because they are wrong.

In example "A", all it takes is one person to disagree with the statement and it becomes invalid. There are plenty of people that hate The Beatles. Of course none of them know good music, but that is subjective too.

If you met someone and the only vegetable they had ever eaten in their entire life was brussel sprouts and they said, "Brussel sprouts are the most delicious vegetable in the world." Would you flat out agree with them or would you argue another point?

Man up, and admit you are wrong. You'll look better.

There is a difference between: "A" is the best, and, I think "A" is the best. (Unless of course "A" is the best in whatever happens to be being discussed.)

If you can't see that take a communication course.

With something subjective like the best band or the most delicious vegetable, every adult should be capable of recognizing it is an opinion.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: CO2 on October 20, 2021, 12:09:01 pm
With something subjective like the best band or the most delicious vegetable, every adult should be capable of recognizing it is an opinion.

DING DING DING DING. We've all encountered that smug adult.

 :police: Michael Jordan is the best basketball player of all time.

 :afro: Well, sir. That is merely your opinion. That is a subjective statement. There is no.............."best" basketball player. *puts one foot up on the stool and swirls brandy*

 :police:  :blank:  :huh:  :shocked:  >:(  Brad, F off.


Again, if you don't agree, then just say so. This is called "discussion."

Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: OnNut81 on October 20, 2021, 12:25:52 pm
I agree to the point that I think it's unnecessary to always preface a statement with "I think" or "It's my opinion"; these things can be understood in conversation by nuance and context.  By the same token, it always irritates me when you have that person who declares that everything they like a lot is "The best!"  This galbi restaurant is the BEST!  This beer is the best!  I think those people that take their limited experience and apply the word "best" to it need an occasional kick in the shnuts.  It's a douchey habit.  They need to learn to say things like "This galbi restaurant is great" or "This beer is one of my favourites."  People that are always trying to speak with absolute authority about certain things that are obviously subjective are annoying.  And that's a fact.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: CO2 on October 20, 2021, 12:30:34 pm
There's a great Louis CK sketch about how we go top shelf with words now with no nuance.

 :afro: Hey, guys. I brought a cup......in case we need a plastic cup.

 :huh: :huh: Brad, you're a GENIUS.

 :afro: ---->  8)  :cheesy: *smug smile*
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on October 20, 2021, 01:08:45 pm
The problem I have is when posters are above 26 years old and still cannot differentiate between fact and opinion. For example.
Gotta agree with Adel here. Those were opinions.

Like this one-
Quote
- the Dems are inept
in 2016? they def were. Hillarys campaign team was a mess and basically split into two camps (Bill Clinton/his friends/Hillary's old staffers vs. Robby Mook). along with the whole operation being completely disjointed she also stuck it out with the wrong side, ironically enough she would've been better off listening to Bill, who was more for lots of smaller events/talking to as many people as possible/etc, as opposed to Mook who basically ran much of the campaign off of advertising/social media.
Clearly the Dems being inept is an opinion. One could say they were "bumbling" or "ignorant" or "oblivious" or "fractured" or "afraid to go against their boss" or "shambolic" or any other number of things. And while those all sound like "inept" they have subtle differences and thus, that makes it opinion, not fact.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: 745sticky on October 20, 2021, 01:12:55 pm
Like this one-Clearly the Dems being inept is an opinion. One could say they were "bumbling" or "ignorant" or "oblivious" or "fractured" or "afraid to go against their boss" or "shambolic" or any other number of things. And while those all sound like "inept" they have subtle differences and thus, that makes it opinion, not fact.

or they could just be inept in several different ways, earning them the rest of those words. either way, i stand by what i said was fact. feel free to keep being wrong  :afro:
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on October 20, 2021, 01:20:00 pm
or they could just be inept in several different ways, earning them the rest of those words. either way, i stand by what i said was fact. feel free to keep being wrong  :afro:
Touche. Inept in several different ways would be fact.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: hangook77 on October 20, 2021, 01:59:58 pm
Gotta agree with Adel here. Those were opinions.

Like this one-Clearly the Dems being inept is an opinion. One could say they were "bumbling" or "ignorant" or "oblivious" or "fractured" or "afraid to go against their boss" or "shambolic" or any other number of things. And while those all sound like "inept" they have subtle differences and thus, that makes it opinion, not fact.

Unpopular?  Who?  Creepy Joe? 

https://news.yahoo.com/biden-approval-slips-again-congress-212800120.html

Well, Orange Man bad.  Let's put an incompetent senile old pedophile in the position instead.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on October 29, 2021, 12:23:20 pm
Unpopular Opinion-

The later Simpsons episodes aren't that bad.

F the Polar Bears
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Kyndo on October 29, 2021, 12:31:07 pm
I refuse to read any of your unpopular opinions unless you use the appropriate puffin meme format.  >:(

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Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: 745sticky on October 29, 2021, 02:14:49 pm
I refuse to read any of your unpopular opinions unless you use the appropriate puffin meme format.  >:(

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go back to 2013 old man
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: CO2 on October 29, 2021, 02:26:51 pm
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Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: hangook77 on October 29, 2021, 02:29:55 pm
Let's go Brandon!
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: sammie5460 on October 29, 2021, 02:53:04 pm
How I Met Your Mother is better than Friends. Sorry, no meme  :undecided:
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: CO2 on October 29, 2021, 02:54:26 pm
Most shows are better than Friends.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Kyndo on October 29, 2021, 03:09:03 pm
go back to 2013 old man

2013 you say, eh?
Hmm.
(https://tv-fanatic-res.cloudinary.com/iu/s--W_WAnZUd--/t_large_l/cs_srgb,f_auto,fl_strip_profile.lossy,q_auto:420/v1371164624/fry-time-travels.png)
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: OnNut81 on October 29, 2021, 03:26:22 pm
How I Met Your Mother is better than Friends. Sorry, no meme  :undecided:

Neither of  those shows are particularly funny. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: JNM on October 29, 2021, 05:23:32 pm
I do like NPH playing (NPH)^-1.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: hippo on October 29, 2021, 06:25:21 pm
For the overwhelming majority of people—even those from privileged upper middle class backgrounds—workplaces will be far more invasive than most  governments.  They tell you what time to be there.  You have wear a uniform—whether a standard one such as they wear at McDonalds or only clothing deemed “appropriate” at a more flexible workplace.  You can quit and find work elsewhere, but you will have to think about healthcare and probably face similar problems.  Unless you’re a fantastic musician who enjoys writing catchy hit songs, you have to accept a huge chunk of your time being clocked and measured.  There’s almost always a top down hierarchy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Aristocrat on October 29, 2021, 06:48:36 pm
Men understand women far better than women understand men.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: gogators! on October 31, 2021, 11:04:17 pm
There is a very big difference in someone saying

A) The Beatles are the greatest band in history.

and

B) I think The Beatles are the greatest band in history.
IMO,  your statement is correct.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: gogators! on October 31, 2021, 11:08:25 pm
Is "People spend too much time on their phones" a popular opinion since a large majority believes this or an unpopular one since most people who say this never follow up on it?
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: L I on November 01, 2021, 03:54:49 am
End Covid Repression, Let Life Resume

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e8_4aQJGUdo

Parts of America still demand that kids and vaccinated adults wear masks, even outdoors. Australia and China enforce even more tyrannical lockdowns.  But now that vaccines protect most of us from serious Covid reactions, continuing such mandates is cruel.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Adel on November 01, 2021, 03:59:17 am
End Covid Repression, Let Life Resume

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e8_4aQJGUdo

Australia enforce even more tyrannical lockdowns.  But now that vaccines protect most of us from serious Covid reactions, continuing such mandates is cruel.


Perhaps, you should check in with more credible and up to date sources. That piece was about as accurate as a Tucker Carlson report.  However, if it was meant to be satirical then fair enough but it could still do with a bit of work. Perhaps he could have mentioned shrimp and BBQs. That could have appealed to his target audience.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: L I on November 01, 2021, 04:19:19 am
You watched it? What specifically was not credible, not up to date, and not accurate in it?
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Adel on November 01, 2021, 04:25:18 am
End Covid Repression, Let Life Resume



. Australia enforce even more tyrannical lockdowns.  .

Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: L I on November 01, 2021, 04:33:35 am
So did you watch the video or not? Are you gonna answer the question? Was it just a matter of not liking part of the video description?
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: L I on November 01, 2021, 04:36:08 am
Also, changing what people wrote by clipping out parts of a sentence is misleading to others. Not an admirable practice.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Adel on November 01, 2021, 04:37:22 am

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You watched it? What specifically was not credible, not up to date, and not accurate in it?

End Covid Repression, Let Life Resume



. Australia enforce even more tyrannical lockdowns.  .


(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/24/af/aa/24afaa8ca18e11748e5b048bed2e5c60.gif)

Also, changing what people wrote by clipping out parts of a sentence is misleading to others. Not an admirable practice.

Ok I'll spell it out for you. This is not accurate up top date information 'Australia enforce even more tyrannical lockdowns'. I skimmed through it.

Do you understand now?  In fact, the federal government of Australia never has enforced any lockdowns.  It doesn't have the capacity to do so under our Constitution.

I don't like using terms coined by idiots  like 'fake news' but I guess that is a label others might apply.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: L I on November 01, 2021, 06:28:12 am
By clipping out words of a sentence to make a new one, it's no longer grammatically correct. We caught you, Aussie nationalist!  :police:
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Adel on November 01, 2021, 06:40:06 am
By clipping out words of a sentence to make a new one, it's no longer grammatically correct. We caught you, Aussie nationalist!  :police:

'Australia enforce(s) even more tyrannical lockdowns'.

 My apologies. I take it correct subject/verb agreement troubles you more than peddling Stossel's bullshit.  I'm not sure how this make me a Nationalist though. I'm no fan of Barnaby Joyce.

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Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: L I on November 01, 2021, 07:24:41 am
How can you call a video bs without having seen it?
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: hangook77 on November 01, 2021, 07:51:06 am
Unpopular opinions?  On here?

You should make more than 2.1 million won. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: OnNut81 on November 01, 2021, 07:55:19 am
Unpopular opinions?  On here?

You should make more than 2.1 million won. 

But, no one makes only 2.1 according to the Hangook method of salary calculation, so that's kind of an odd opinion for someone to hold. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: hangook77 on November 01, 2021, 07:59:33 am
Another Monday morning.  Here we F'n go....
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Adel on November 01, 2021, 08:17:14 am
How can you call a video bs without having seen it?
I've already said I've skimmed the video for the relevant details, but don't you think I might have noticed if Australia had been overtaken by a tyrannical that was enforcing more lockdowns?
 
Do you understand what a federation is?

Do you know who the Australian politician featured in the video was?

Do you understand what Victoria is? 

Nonetheless, at the risk continuing one of your idiotic debates, other than your Stossel video from nearly three weeks ago, what makes you believe that 'Australia enforces (or is enforcing) even more tyrannical lockdowns'?

Have a nice day! ;D
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Kyndo on November 01, 2021, 09:30:47 am
My sister lives in Melbourne, and basically *all* restrictions have been lifted recently.
This is a direct result of very strict measures eradicating all cases of covid19. With some careful monitoring, they can now enjoy their Halloween parties etc.
If North America had found the political backbone to do the same, things might have been going equally well right now.  :sad:

Is that an unpopular opinion?
"In my opinion, brutal social distancing measures and extensive contact tracing measures are best at preventing needless deaths, and are, in the long run, better for the economy and are therefor worth the short-term inconvenience."
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: OnNut81 on November 01, 2021, 09:31:05 am
Another Monday morning.  Here we F'n go....

You have stated numerous times that when calculating your pay you include the value for housing.  I also do. So, obviously that method would apply to everyone.  Even for you, that would be hard to deny or not comprehend.    So, no one is making 2.1 but we're looking at a base salary value of 2.5.  Or does that method apply to you only?  That would be an unpopular opinion for sure. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Adel on November 01, 2021, 09:41:50 am
My sister lives in Melbourne, and basically *all* restrictions have been lifted recently.
This is a direct result of very strict measures eradicating all cases of covid19. With some careful monitoring, they can now enjoy their Halloween parties etc.


To be fair, Victoria hasn't quite achieved eradication, but their numbers have stabilized and with levels of full vaccination above 80% for adults, the levels of hospitalisations and serious illness are under control. Hence, most restrictions were lifted nearly two weeks ago. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Kyndo on November 01, 2021, 10:03:22 am
Still something to be proud of.
I hope that these results will allow them to implement the same measures with less resistance in the next pandemic!
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: L I on November 01, 2021, 10:41:05 am
According to the video, Covid can’t be eradicated because it has spread in animal populations. True?
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on November 01, 2021, 11:00:01 am
This thread is not meant for crap like COVID stuff. Whether for or against certain measures, your opinion is not unpopular.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: hangook77 on November 01, 2021, 12:09:00 pm
You have stated numerous times that when calculating your pay you include the value for housing.  I also do. So, obviously that method would apply to everyone.  Even for you, that would be hard to deny or not comprehend.    So, no one is making 2.1 but we're looking at a base salary value of 2.5.  Or does that method apply to you only?  That would be an unpopular opinion for sure. 

Wow!  2.5.  Overwhelming pay.  Just a smidgen above minimum wage.  Woo hoo!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: OnNut81 on November 01, 2021, 12:21:15 pm
Wow!  2.5.  Overwhelming pay.  Just a smidgen above minimum wage.  Woo hoo!!

But, it's accurate.  Whether it's good or bad is irrelevant.  You're not good with money and incur debt without much concern.  Others may be smarter with their income.  The point is it's high time you stopped including housing when you're trying to brag about your salary but not including it when you want to warn people off coming to Korea.  Should be a simple concept to grasp.  Consistency, man. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: tylerthegloob on November 01, 2021, 12:24:34 pm
unpopular opinion: hangook's wage whine posts are necessary and productive

this is not my opinion, but i assume it IS an unpopular one
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Adel on November 01, 2021, 12:35:51 pm
This thread is not meant for crap like COVID stuff. Whether for or against certain measures, your opinion is not unpopular.

*In my opinion* posters should and do derail threads with random shit at will.

Not sure it's an unpopular opinion though!
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: hangook77 on November 01, 2021, 01:23:22 pm
But, it's accurate.  Whether it's good or bad is irrelevant.  You're not good with money and incur debt without much concern.  Others may be smarter with their income.  The point is it's high time you stopped including housing when you're trying to brag about your salary but not including it when you want to warn people off coming to Korea.  Should be a simple concept to grasp.  Consistency, man. 

:ike I said, the truth is unpopular here.  It does bewildern me though why more foreigners don't speak up and fight about it but isntead choose to fight with each other.  It reminds me of when they started ATEK to fight racism and discrimination in Korea, then the apologists got in there and started fighting with each other instead of the racists in Korea.  The expat class here is something special.  The truth is unpopular. 

BTW, I make it even with some debt on my salary.  I couldn't make it on 2.1.  (Paying off your student loans on that, next to impossible.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: OnNut81 on November 01, 2021, 01:32:44 pm
:ike I said, the truth is unpopular here.  It does bewildern me though why more foreigners don't speak up and fight about it but isntead choose to fight with each other.  It reminds me of when they started ATEK to fight racism and discrimination in Korea, then the apologists got in there and started fighting with each other instead of the racists in Korea.  The expat class here is something special.  The truth is unpopular. 

BTW, I make it even with some debt on my salary.  I couldn't make it on 2.1.  (Paying off your student loans on that, next to impossible.)

I agree.  Someone that carries as much debt as you and doesn't hesitate to add to that debt shouldn't have come here in the first place.  No one would argue with that.  I didn't have debt when I came but for others that did, once they paid it off they didn't go back into the red.  You don't have any qualms about borrowing more than you earn, and that's fair enough, but you should've moved on here from here ages ago.  I mean, you borrowed money just to pay your small key deposit.  That's not good.  Since money is your main priority I don't understand the financial moves you've made.  You had a crippling student debt by the sounds of it, and then you became more indebted to get your own apartment and a car.  You need to learn to live within your means. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on November 02, 2021, 12:43:46 pm
There are plenty of people that hate The Beatles. Of course none of them know good music, but that is subjective too.
LOL.

Unpopular Opinion: The Beatles are overrated. A lot of their songs suck. Their music and fame was evolutionary, not revolutionary (meaning, it was coming no matter what due to various factors), you can't even f*ck to their music.  Some trippy songs to listen to while stoned and some poppy cheerful numbers to listen to on a summer drive. Mostly the same people that drove Beatlemania are the same kinds of people driving BTS mania. They aren't great musicians or songwriters.

Led Zeppelin>The Beatles.

Also "F these stupid groups nowadays with their autotune and not singing live. Not like the Beatles and REAL music!!!!!" is all kinds of LOL stupid.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on November 02, 2021, 12:55:52 pm
:ike I said, the truth is unpopular here.  It does bewildern me though why more foreigners don't speak up and fight about it but isntead choose to fight with each other.  It reminds me of when they started ATEK to fight racism and discrimination in Korea, then the apologists got in there and started fighting with each other instead of the racists in Korea.  The expat class here is something special.  The truth is unpopular. 
The reason ATEK failed is the same reason you are failing with your China-wage crap. You're putting the cart before the mule. They were all about creating publicity and fighting an issue and expecting that everyone would just rally behind them like they were William effing Wallace or something.

When you build a real organization, you have to deliver services to people. That is how they grow to trust you and also how they become willing to follow you and lend you their time, effort and money.

They went about things the way most young, dumb and stupid people go about things. Making things all about a struggle and not about a service.

Also, they expected it to all happen over night. They had zero patience or willingness to build a sustainable organization.

Finally, if you're going to fight racism and discrimination, you need to be comprehensive about it and you need to be smart about picking your battles. An HIV screen is probably not that good of an issue. If you asked the average person "Do you think someone emigrating from one country to another should be given an infectious disease screen before entry?" You'd probably get broad support. You also can't just focus on racism affecting white NETs and have the leaders all be white male when the NET base is much more diverse than that. This isn't to say white men shouldn't be allowed, but that it doesn't reflect the makeup AND it isn't based on competence as was clearly indicated by their management of the whole thing. If you're going to fight racism, you should pledge to fight the racism affecting non-white NETs and hiring, which is frankly a far more prevalent thing that people have to deal with and has real consequences, but that was an after-thought to them.

So that's why they failed. It wasn't because of "apologists". It was because they were stupid and didn't execute things well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on November 02, 2021, 12:59:24 pm
  You had a crippling student debt by the sounds of it, and then you became more indebted to get your own apartment and a car.  You need to learn to live within your means.
But how's he supposed to impress the ladies at the local Nonghyup branch without that apartment and his used Grandeur?
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: 745sticky on November 02, 2021, 01:01:01 pm
the beatles cultural impact has always been their actual legacy anyways, critically speaking they got pretty mixed reviews back in the day. i doubt many people would argue that the beatles are a great band on a technical level, but a lot of people would say they were their favorite.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: OnNut81 on November 02, 2021, 01:03:13 pm
But how's he supposed to impress the ladies at the local Nonghyup branch without that apartment and his used Grandeur?

You're right, there are two sides.  But, it seems as if he has been more focused on the financials instead of the ladies.  In fact, it seems by his comment the other day that the ladies look at him as an oppa and  are more of a nuisance.  How is he going to know if they love him for his money or for HIM?
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: 745sticky on November 02, 2021, 01:06:54 pm
oppa gangnam style
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: hangook77 on November 02, 2021, 01:10:27 pm
The reason ATEK failed is the same reason you are failing with your China-wage crap. You're putting the cart before the mule. They were all about creating publicity and fighting an issue and expecting that everyone would just rally behind them like they were William effing Wallace or something.

When you build a real organization, you have to deliver services to people. That is how they grow to trust you and also how they become willing to follow you and lend you their time, effort and money.

They went about things the way most young, dumb and stupid people go about things. Making things all about a struggle and not about a service.

Finally, if you're going to fight racism and discrimination, you need to be comprehensive about it and you need to be smart about picking your battles. An HIV screen is probably not that good of an issue. If you asked the average person "Do you think someone emigrating from one country to another should be given an infectious disease screen before entry?" You'd probably get broad support. You also can't just focus on racism affecting white NETs and have the leaders all be white male when the NET base is much more diverse than that. This isn't to say white men shouldn't be allowed, but that it doesn't reflect the makeup AND it isn't based on competence as was clearly indicated by their management of the whole thing. If you're going to fight racism, you should pledge to fight the racism affecting non-white NETs and hiring, which is frankly a far more prevalent thing that people have to deal with and has real consequences, but that was an after-thought to them.

So that's why they failed. It wasn't because of "apologists". It was because they were stupid and didn't execute things well.

Spoken like another apologist defending all things Korean.   The apologists wanted to make excuses for the dicks over on anti English spectrum and just show they are better foreigners sucking up and demanding nothing in return.  Granted the average Korean nowadays is much much better than before, some companies and government rules can still discriminate.  But it happened no thanks to the useless cuck foreigners.  Even when I called that shit out back in the day, half of them would make excuses for it and defend like the useless cow bladders they were. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: hangook77 on November 02, 2021, 01:11:14 pm
You're right, there are two sides.  But, it seems as if he has been more focused on the financials instead of the ladies.  In fact, it seems by his comment the other day that the ladies look at him as an oppa and  are more of a nuisance.  How is he going to know if they love him for his money or for HIM?

Your combined jealousy won't make you any more popular.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on November 02, 2021, 01:13:41 pm
Spoken like another apologist defending all things Korean.   The apologists wanted to make excuses for the dicks over on anti English spectrum and just show they are better foreigners sucking up and demanding nothing in return.  Granted the average Korean nowadays is much much better than before, some companies and government rules can still discriminate.  But it happened no thanks to the useless cuck foreigners.  Even when I called that shit out back in the day, half of them would make excuses for it and defend like the useless cow bladders they were.
Notice how nothing you wrote addresses my point about the way ATEK was managed?

It's all about "apologists and cucks".

If you can't look, learn and understand why something didn't work in an objective fashion, you will make the same mistakes. ATEK failed because of incompetent management and leadership, a get-rich-quick mindset, and a leadership-centered structure.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: hangook77 on November 02, 2021, 01:17:29 pm
Notice how nothing you wrote addresses my point about the way ATEK was managed?

It's all about "apologists and cucks".

If you can't look, learn and understand why something didn't work in an objective fashion, you will make the same mistakes. ATEK failed because of incompetent management and leadership, a get-rich-quick mindset, and a leadership-centered structure.

Yeah well it was.  Half wanted to fight racism and half wanted to wuss out and make excuses.  They hoped being a pathetic suck up would somehow make people like them and no longer be racist towards them.  So, it collapsed.  Great Recession happened shortly after that punching the market in the face flooding Korea with too many teachers too.  ATEK did nothing useful.  I was hoping it'd be a teachers union that would fight for teachers.  But it just bent over in the end and took it in the pie hole. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: D.L.Orean on November 02, 2021, 01:39:35 pm
You're right, there are two sides.  But, it seems as if he has been more focused on the financials instead of the ladies.  In fact, it seems by his comment the other day that the ladies look at him as an oppa and  are more of a nuisance.  How is he going to know if they love him for his money or for HIM?

The ladies of Nonghyup, or Starbucks for that matter, will never fill the hole left by the man he used to enjoy romantic walks with down by the river. He has upped and gone back to the States and hangook longs for the days of the past. Not even the smiles of a young barista and a conversation about BTS can warm his cold heart.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: hangook77 on November 02, 2021, 01:42:57 pm
The ladies of Nonghyup, or Starbucks for that matter, will never fill the hole left by the man he used to enjoy romantic walks with down by the river. He has upped and gone back to the States and hangook longs for the days of the past. Not even the smiles of a young barista and a conversation about BTS can warm his cold heart.

You still ranting about your boyfriend who went back to New Orleans?  Go back to him instead of projecting your fantasies onto me.  I don't care about which holes you use, but the rest of us don't need to know about it.  Prehaps this winter, you can travel again.  Maybe you can meet your boyfriend for Mardi Gra?  Pretending to like women or whatever it is you are ranting on about will only make you more bitter, jealous, and miserable. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: 745sticky on November 02, 2021, 01:45:23 pm
i strongly doubt that anyone on this website (or the ladies of nonghyup or starbucks for that matter) are fantasizing about you
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: D.L.Orean on November 02, 2021, 01:47:14 pm
You still ranting about your boyfriend who went back to New Orleans?  Go back to him instead of projecting your fantasies onto me.  I don't care about which holes you use, but the rest of us don't need to know about it.  Prehaps this winter, you can travel again.  Maybe you can meet your boyfriend for Mardi Gra?  Pretending to like women or whatever it is you are ranting on about will only make you more bitter, jealous, and miserable.

One day you will be abe to love again. Those river walks won't be lonely forever.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: OnNut81 on November 02, 2021, 01:48:22 pm
The ladies of Nonghyup, or Starbucks for that matter, will never fill the hole left by the man he used to enjoy romantic walks with down by the river. He has upped and gone back to the States and hangook longs for the days of the past. Not even the smiles of a young barista and a conversation about BTS can warm his cold heart.

"Poems were inspired and written about that one great love.  Songs were sung.  And now, in the summer of 2022 you can look forward to it being on the small screen with Netflix's Brokeback River.  Two Men, Two Axes to Grind(er)." 

 I really hope they don't cast any of those guys that were VIPs in Squid Game. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: hangook77 on November 02, 2021, 01:48:58 pm
One day you will be abe to love again. Those river walks won't be lonely forever.

You'll get back to your boyfriends in New Orleans one day.  Don't lose hope and, in the meantime, don't drop the soap. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: hangook77 on November 02, 2021, 01:49:52 pm
"Poems were inspired and written about that one great love.  Songs were sung.  And now, in the summer of 2022 you can look forward to it being on the small screen with Netflix's Brokeback River.  Two Men, Two Axes to Grind(er)." 

 I really hope they don't cast any of those guys that were VIPs in Squid Game. 

You guys are staring in Brokeback Mountain 2 right? 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: D.L.Orean on November 02, 2021, 01:52:34 pm
You'll get back to your boyfriends in New Orleans one day.  Don't lose hope and, in the meantime, don't drop the soap.

Did you ever consider a career in comedy?
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: hangook77 on November 02, 2021, 01:54:07 pm
Did you ever consider a career in comedy?

I should.  My first tour date will be in New Orleans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaeEopDW0V4

I might get a couple of you guys to open up for me. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: D.L.Orean on November 02, 2021, 01:55:14 pm
I should.  My first tour date will be in New Orleans.

If you need a place to stay, I know a guy
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: OnNut81 on November 02, 2021, 01:58:11 pm

I might get a couple of you guys to open up for me. 

I don't swing that way, so count me out, but all the power bottom to you. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: hangook77 on November 02, 2021, 02:04:05 pm
If you need a place to stay, I know a guy

You said it.  I didn't.....
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: D.L.Orean on November 02, 2021, 02:05:17 pm
You said it.  I didn't.....

Said what?
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on November 02, 2021, 02:34:31 pm
Yeah well it was.  Half wanted to fight racism
You're confusing goals with ways. Everyone wants to fight racism, the way you do so is up for debate.


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They hoped being a pathetic suck up would somehow make people like them and no longer be racist towards them. 

Granted the average Korean nowadays is much much better than before, some companies and government rules can still discriminate.  But it happened no thanks to the useless cuck foreigners.

Well it certainly didn't happen because of ATEK. It happened primarily from non-English teaching foreigners, diplomacy and changes by Koreans themselves. Much of it was organic reactions to acts of racism themselves. You can largely thank PC lefties in Korea and the USA for that.

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ATEK did nothing useful.  I was hoping it'd be a teachers union that would fight for teachers.
Again, you don't get it. You think this organization should have FOUGHT. I'm saying it failed because it didn't understand that it needed to SERVE. Yes, unions arise fighting for wages, but what makes them sustainable is the services they provide and the sense that people feel they are getting something out of them in exchange for the Union dues. This can be as bland as discounts and benefits to things like legal services, rainy day funds, etc. to organizing for wages and benefits.

If you don't provide services and build an actual organization you just turn into Occupy Wall St. People have to trust that their time, energy and money will see a return. If they don't think that will happen and if they don't trust the people running it are going to listen to the membership and act in their interests, they won't follow them. You also can't base this on things changing overnight and not have the patience to build an organization. In the end it was run by a bunch of people who knew nothing about BUILDING.

Where was ATEK on fighting discrimination against non-white ESL teachers? Nowhere.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: CO2 on November 02, 2021, 02:51:16 pm
I might get a couple of you guys to open up for me. 

Now I read everything you say as double entendre.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Kyndo on November 02, 2021, 03:08:50 pm
Man, I would never have thought that we'd stray so far from unpopular opinions!
Trick is, I guess, to make it the topic of a thread!  :laugh:..... :cry:
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: hippo on November 02, 2021, 05:57:52 pm
Mondays are good. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: hangook77 on November 02, 2021, 06:24:16 pm
Now I read everything you say as double entendre.

I thought we were still ribbing each other.  Ha ha.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: CO2 on November 02, 2021, 07:00:44 pm
I thought we were still ribbing each other.  Ha ha.

Are we ribbed for your pleasure or mine?
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Mr C on November 02, 2021, 08:20:31 pm
You're confusing goals with ways. Everyone wants to fight racism, (...)

Weeeell, I don't think that's so.  Anyone wearing a 6MWNE or Camp Auschwitz tee-shirt is likely to be fighting FOR racism. 

I imagine you'll want to confine that to the wagook.org membership, but even here, we have a few recently (re)emerged knuckle-draggers of our own. 

You occasionally accuse me of not being able to think like a criminal (and maybe that's true, I'll be bingeing true crime stuff on YT) but maybe you overlook racism because you find it hard to accept that some people disparage others not for their inability to argue logically, say, but because of their skin color.

Just sayin'.

BTW, I agree with you about ATEK.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on November 03, 2021, 12:46:20 pm
Weeeell, I don't think that's so.  Anyone wearing a 6MWNE or Camp Auschwitz tee-shirt is likely to be fighting FOR racism. 
Fair point I probably overstated it. I imagine 20% of NETs would instinctively oppose it for whatever reason.

I'm chuckling at the thought of hangook77 at the NET anti-prejudice parade

Crowd: "No room for racism!!!!"
Hangook77: "Hell yeah! All of you not marching with us are a bunch of apologists!"
Crowd: "We're here, we're queer, get used to it!"
Hangooky77: "Anyone marching with them is a cuck!"
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: gogators! on November 04, 2021, 06:28:19 am
I'm pretty sure that hankook and his fat wallet have moved on from Starbucks and now hangs at the Rolls Royce dealer in Pangyo. Problem is people keep asking him to make them coffee instead of the other way around.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: hangook77 on November 04, 2021, 11:45:50 am
Are we ribbed for your pleasure or mine?

Ha ha ha.

Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: hangook77 on November 04, 2021, 11:49:34 am
I take a couple of days off and come back.  Great to see folks talking about me in my absence.  I am the most popular in the midst of this unpopular thread.  I'm always willing to say the things that must be said. 

To the king on the GO, I did make some coffee, but my own at home, punk!  You can keep the Maxim stick coffee to yourself. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on November 04, 2021, 01:31:35 pm
I take a couple of days off and come back.  Great to see folks talking about me in my absence.  I am the most popular in the midst of this unpopular thread.  I'm always willing to say the things that must be said. 
I'm slowly becoming all-in on this. It's like that Scorch guy I mentioned. Or Rupert Pupkin. The level of delusion is amazing.

Unpopular Opinion: hangook77 has become must-see over the past few months with his stuff. I'd call this performance art but I think it's actually genuine.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Renma on November 04, 2021, 02:48:28 pm
The maladjusted characters of waygook have always been a spectator draw for me. weigook74 is one of the last still posting sadly.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: 745sticky on November 04, 2021, 02:54:52 pm
martino is just happy to have somebody he can finally dunk on without much consequence
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on November 04, 2021, 03:58:51 pm
martino is just happy to have somebody he can finally dunk on without much consequence
As much as I enjoy throwing down like J.R. Rider on our resident Will Perdue, I most enjoy playing Rider style iso hero ball and turning it over and shooting 32% from the field against you Mutumbos of waygook.org
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: 745sticky on November 05, 2021, 07:55:06 am
i regret to inform you that im too much of a zoomer to know what any of that meant
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: CO2 on November 05, 2021, 08:02:36 am
As much as I enjoy throwing down like J.R. Rider on our resident Will Perdue, I most enjoy playing Rider style iso hero ball and turning it over and shooting 32% from the field against you Mutumbos of waygook.org
In English, please.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on November 05, 2021, 01:03:37 pm
Hero Ball: Isolation basketball that relies on desperate moves and shots. When it works you're a hero. Usually it doesn't work.
ISO Ball: Isolation basketball- usually featuring one or two players on a team trying to go one-on-one and drive to the rim or get a jump shot. Often criticized for lacking ball movement and an indication of selfish play, though in tight situations against great defense, being able to score in iso situations can make or break a team.
J.R. (Isaiah) Rider: NBA player of 90s NBA infamy great dunker and volume scorer...and also a bit of a loose cannon with off the court troubles and a propensity to play "hero ball".
Mutumbo: Dikembe Mutumbo. NBA Center in the 90s famous for blocking shots and wagging his finger. One fo the great defensive players of the era.
Posterized: Having someone dunk over you, the image of which will be on posters for the next 10 years. Many players will give up on trying to defend a dunk rather than see themselves get posterized.
Shooting X From the Field: An indication of how well someone is shooting. Generally anything over 45~50% (depending on position) is good, unless it's the 3-point line, in which case 35%+ is usually acceptable. 32% from the field is...it's not good.
Throwing Down: Dunking a basketball
Turning it Over: To turn the ball over to the other team resulting in a loss of possession. 
Volume Scorer: And NBA player who gets a lot of points per game, but is inefficient in doing so. Usually, but not always a net negative to the team.
Will Perdue: Generic stiff backup center of the 90s NBA who would always be getting posterized.

Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: D.L.Orean on November 05, 2021, 01:31:47 pm
Hero Ball: Isolation basketball that relies on desperate moves and shots. When it works you're a hero. Usually it doesn't work.
ISO Ball: Isolation basketball- usually featuring one or two players on a team trying to go one-on-one and drive to the rim or get a jump shot. Often criticized for lacking ball movement and an indication of selfish play, though in tight situations against great defense, being able to score in iso situations can make or break a team.
J.R. (Isaiah) Rider: NBA player of 90s NBA infamy great dunker and volume scorer...and also a bit of a loose cannon with off the court troubles and a propensity to play "hero ball".
Mutumbo: Dikembe Mutumbo. NBA Center in the 90s famous for blocking shots and wagging his finger. One fo the great defensive players of the era.
Posterized: Having someone dunk over you, the image of which will be on posters for the next 10 years. Many players will give up on trying to defend a dunk rather than see themselves get posterized.
Shooting X From the Field: An indication of how well someone is shooting. Generally anything over 45~50% (depending on position) is good, unless it's the 3-point line, in which case 35%+ is usually acceptable. 32% from the field is...it's not good.
Throwing Down: Dunking a basketball
Turning it Over: To turn the ball over to the other team resulting in a loss of possession. 
Volume Scorer: And NBA player who gets a lot of points per game, but is inefficient in doing so. Usually, but not always a net negative to the team.
Will Perdue: Generic stiff backup center of the 90s NBA who would always be getting posterized.

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Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: KimchiNinja on November 11, 2021, 07:28:13 am
Unpopular opinion with Westerners: objectively speaking North Korea is the free country, and that’s why the propagandized American would-be invaders hate them so much. Same with China, and Russia.

Americans actually hate freedom (of others).
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: tylerthegloob on November 11, 2021, 07:33:12 am
KimchiNinja: Paragon of Objectivity
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: OnNut81 on November 11, 2021, 07:56:16 am
Unpopular opinion with Westerners: objectively speaking North Korea is the free country, and that’s why the propagandized American would-be invaders hate them so much. Same with China, and Russia.

Americans actually hate freedom (of others).

What's wrong with that?  Each country looks out for their own, and as long as Americans care about Americans' freedom, they're just playing the same game and winning. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: CO2 on November 11, 2021, 08:00:30 am
What's wrong with that?  Each country looks out for their own, and as long as Americans care about Americans' freedom, they're just playing the same game and winning. 

Yeah, it's like getting mad at a dad for feeding his own children and not buying the kids on a different street Christmas presents.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: KimchiNinja on November 11, 2021, 08:14:15 am
What's wrong with that?  Each country looks out for their own, and as long as Americans care about Americans' freedom, they're just playing the same game and winning.

This is darkly humorous.

We have here the mask coming off and rare honesty about what America is, combined with denial of it’s current decline (which is linked to so-called “winning”). No, not every country is obsessed with imperialism/supremacism over others. That’s false.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: gogators! on November 11, 2021, 08:54:55 am
Unpopular opinion with Westerners: objectively speaking North Korea is the free country, and that’s why the propagandized American would-be invaders hate them so much. Same with China, and Russia.

Americans actually hate freedom (of others).
Air ball.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: OnNut81 on November 11, 2021, 09:28:50 am
This is darkly humorous.

We have here the mask coming off and rare honesty about what America is, combined with denial of it’s current decline (which is linked to so-called “winning”). No, not every country is obsessed with imperialism/supremacism over others. That’s false.

Every country, including now and throughout history that has had the power to be supreme over others has taken that road.  Are you impressed by Canadians for not trying to impose their will on other countries?  If we had the economic or military might the world would be drinking the sludge that is Tim Horton's and bending the knee to the current monarch, King Connor McDavid. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Kyndo on November 11, 2021, 11:34:08 am
Every country, including now and throughout history that has had the power to be supreme over others has taken that road.  Are you impressed by Canadians for not trying to impose their will on other countries?  If we had the economic or military might the world would be drinking the sludge that is Tim Horton's and bending the knee to the current monarch, King Connor McDavid.
You're wrong!
The Soviet Union never expanded beyond its borders, nor have the other paragons of freedom, China and North Korea.
There *is* an inherent flaw in Western society, and the fact that it has spread those flaws to virtually every corner of the globe just means that those flaws are now universal and thus that much harder to spot.
  Luckily, the recent rise of non-Western Superpowers mean that we will finally see the end of Horton-sludge-like products and ideas, their ubiquitousness to be supplanted by the clearly superior products made in, for example, China.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: VanIslander on November 11, 2021, 11:46:38 am
Most of the best-selling products are crap.

The corollary: governments help push big business products that are not very good for anyone.

These are unpopular opinions because most people keep still buying crap from companies and governments.


Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: 745sticky on November 11, 2021, 11:58:47 am
You're wrong!
The Soviet Union never expanded beyond its borders, nor have the other paragons of freedom, China and North Korea.
There *is* an inherent flaw in Western society, and the fact that it has spread those flaws to virtually every corner of the globe just means that those flaws are now universal and thus that much harder to spot.
  Luckily, the recent rise of non-Western Superpowers mean that we will finally see the end of Horton-sludge-like products and ideas, their ubiquitousness to be supplanted by the clearly superior products made in, for example, China.

i get you feel bad that we had to ban kimchininja but thats no reason to let him post from your account lmao
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: OnNut81 on November 11, 2021, 11:59:19 am
You're wrong!
The Soviet Union never expanded beyond its borders, nor have the other paragons of freedom, China and North Korea.
There *is* an inherent flaw in Western society, and the fact that it has spread those flaws to virtually every corner of the globe just means that those flaws are now universal and thus that much harder to spot.
  Luckily, the recent rise of non-Western Superpowers mean that we will finally see the end of Horton-sludge-like products and ideas, their ubiquitousness to be supplanted by the clearly superior products made in, for example, China.

That's true the Soviet Union never expanded it's area of influence beyond what was Russia, even after World War 2 and it never invaded Afghanistan.  But North Korea?  You don't think all those Korean run variety stores in Canada and delis in NYC aren't sleeper cells?  Wake up and smell the Timmies!
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Kyndo on November 11, 2021, 01:07:54 pm
That's true the Soviet Union never expanded it's area of influence beyond what was Russia, even after World War 2 and it never invaded Afghanistan.  But North Korea?  You don't think all those Korean run variety stores in Canada and delis in NYC aren't sleeper cells?  Wake up and smell the Timmies!
They aren't sleeper cells! They're just helpful proletarians who have given themselves the task of helping the rest of us learn about the glorious enlightenment that Juche would bestow upon us... ...under the careful guidance of a (dear and benevolent) leader with a deep and profound understanding of Mencius' teachings, of course.


*Phew* I'm relieved. For a moment there, I thought I might've pulled an fka and would be stuck waving the wrong flag for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Liechtenstein on November 11, 2021, 02:59:07 pm
With something subjective like the best band or the most delicious vegetable, every adult should be capable of recognizing it is an opinion.


Every adult? Really? I have most of the native teachers at the school where I work believing there is a city of 7 million people on Mars called Marsville.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Kyndo on November 11, 2021, 03:02:17 pm

Every adult? Really? I have most of the native teachers at the school where I work believing there is a city of 7 million people on Mars called Marsville.
:laugh:
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: OnNut81 on November 11, 2021, 03:21:17 pm

Every adult? Really? I have most of the native teachers at the school where I work believing there is a city of 7 million people on Mars called Marsville.

Those idiots!  It's been Mars City since they passed the 3,000,000 mark a billion years ago. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: Liechtenstein on November 21, 2021, 10:45:35 am
Those idiots!  It's been Mars City since they passed the 3,000,000 mark a billion years ago. 

THIS is funny!!!!

Nice.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: gogators! on November 21, 2021, 07:43:23 pm
You're wrong!
The Soviet Union never expanded beyond its borders, nor have the other paragons of freedom, China and North Korea.
There *is* an inherent flaw in Western society, and the fact that it has spread those flaws to virtually every corner of the globe just means that those flaws are now universal and thus that much harder to spot.
  Luckily, the recent rise of non-Western Superpowers mean that we will finally see the end of Horton-sludge-like products and ideas, their ubiquitousness to be supplanted by the clearly superior products made in, for example, China.
I think your definition of expanded is fairly limited. The Soviet Union had its satellites  and Mao tried to emulate them but ended up with only Albania. Contemporary China is building military bases on islands that are not part of their territory and was just caught trying to build a secret base in the UAE.

Contemporary Russia annexed the Crimea and is massing troops near the Ukraine border to potentially take more. Then there's Putin's attempts to destabilize the US, EU and Western democracies in general.

Not that the US doesn't have military bases outside its borders but I think you're giving                                                                                                   
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: L I on November 21, 2021, 07:54:24 pm
The difference is, the US has military bases in countries that want them there.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: JNM on November 21, 2021, 09:24:05 pm
The difference is, the US has military bases in countries that want them there.

Like Cuba?
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: VanIslander on November 21, 2021, 10:06:09 pm
Like Cuba?
America still has military bases in less than friendly Afghanistan, Djibouti and Iraq.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: JNM on November 26, 2021, 12:43:06 am
Unpopular opinion: Unconstructed jackets are not about casual fit. They are an excuse to sell cheap shit at luxury brand prices.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: VanIslander on November 26, 2021, 01:05:45 am
Unpopular opinion: Unconstructed jackets are not about casual fit. They are an excuse to sell cheap shit at luxury brand prices.
Social pressure and popular opinion is where it's at! Say what others want you to think, and expect to be canceled otherwise. Freedom of speech is an illusion. It is all a struggle for power.
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: OnNut81 on November 26, 2021, 08:16:00 am
Social pressure and popular opinion is where it's at! Say what others want you to think, and expect to be canceled otherwise. Freedom of speech is an illusion. It is all a struggle for power.

If you don't believe in freedom of speech why did you become a mod?  Posters on here want a place where their thoughts and opinions can be heard, rather than cancelled on a whim. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: VanIslander on November 26, 2021, 09:08:45 am
OMG. Could my tongue be planted any more clearly in my cheek?

Every fiber of my being, every one of my thousands (tens of thousands, actually on record) have been against the last post.

C'mon. Experienced posters should recognize it.

The language and the culture admits parody, lampooning and reductio ad absurdums.

Unpopular opinions littered the Mad Magazine of my youth. My bad. (?)(!)

Hashtag this thread's topic rocks!
Title: Re: Unpopular Opinions Megathread
Post by: VanIslander on November 26, 2021, 09:20:02 am
Posters on here want a place where their thoughts and opinions can be heard,...
Agreed 100%.

Let's talk about ideas, not ridicule people regarding their looks, habits, mental state or origin.

Be hard on the problem, not the person. Attack the position not the personality.

Let's respect everyone and get along. This site should be a fraternity. We have a lot in common, and our differences should be interesting, illuminating or at least understandable.