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Title: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: SPQR on September 02, 2021, 09:00:26 am
Plastic Injections Factory
Urgently needed workers
Foreigners can also apply
Available for visa Sponsorship
Open for male and female, students(couples)Ok
 Locations :- Busan, Paju, Incheon, Seoul, Ansan, suwon, gwangju, jeju island
compensation: Salary
employment type: full-time
Age: 20-55
=>All visa type can apply 
* Day and Night, shifts available
* Start date : Asap
* Working hours : 9am-6pm or 1pm-10pm and 10pm to 6m(M~F)
* Salary : 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
* Benefits : Free Meal, Accommodation, pension,paid  vacation
Only interested pe itrson should message me on Kakoa.....And make sure you follow the necessary instructions
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Urgently needed workers
Foreigners can also apply
Available for visa Sponsorship
Open for male and female, students(couples)Ok
 Locations :- Busan, Paju, Incheon, Seoul, Ansan, suwon, gwangju, jeju island
compensation: Salary
employment type: full-time
Age: 20-55
=>All visa type can apply 
* Day and Night, shifts available
* Start date : Asap
* Working hours : 9am-6pm or 1pm-10pm and 10pm to 6m(M~F)
* Salary : 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
* Benefits : Free Meal, Accommodation, pension,paid  vacation
Only interested person should message me on Kakoa.....And make sure you follow the necessary instructions
Accept mobile calls only
Kakao talk ID: kimwim

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Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: VanIslander on September 02, 2021, 09:16:07 am
My father thought a friend's son had a nice job working as a metalworker with union pay. He made too much to quit, drove a sports car and killed himself with a bullet to the head.
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: Adel on September 02, 2021, 09:23:37 am
liked their add on Facebook. :laugh:

Quote
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the company is large
You don't even have to speak Korean. You just have to pretend to listen.
need 3 men
working hours AM:8:30  PM:8:30  weekly   Nighttime PM:8:00 AM:8:00 1 week day 1 week night
salary  2.8 million to 3 million per month (Since the month of September, the company is very busy, so you can receive up to 3.5 million to 3.6 million.)
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Add me as a friend if you want to see more jobs (010 8020 1633)
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Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: KimDuHan on September 02, 2021, 10:38:21 am
Walmart pays about $20.00 cad an hour at most places in Canada  which is about $3200 a month at 160 hours straight time more if you work holidays and overtime.

I’d rather just work at Walmart!

McDonald’s advertising for $25 an hour and can’t get no one.

Canada is f’d!
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: Kyndo on September 02, 2021, 10:59:30 am
McDonald’s advertising for $25 an hour and can’t get no one.

Canada is f’d!
The average Mcdonald's salary in Canada is $25,350 per year or $13 per hour.
Entry level positions start at $23,000 per year.
https://ca.talent.com/salary?job=mcdonalds#:~:text=The%20average%20mcdonalds%20salary%20in,up%20to%20%2429%2C738%20per%20year.

The $25/hour job they're advertising probably requires high enough credentials that the people who actually qualify can get better remuneration elsewhere... hence the relatively reasonable hourly wage being offered.

Also... "can't get no one." ?  :huh:
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: CO2 on September 02, 2021, 11:01:25 am

Also... "can't get no one." ?  :huh:

He ain't no learned man. Them "big city" types.
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: hangook77 on September 02, 2021, 12:43:46 pm
Walmart pays about $20.00 cad an hour at most places in Canada  which is about $3200 a month at 160 hours straight time more if you work holidays and overtime.

I’d rather just work at Walmart!

McDonald’s advertising for $25 an hour and can’t get no one.

Canada is f’d!

Seriously?  Where is this?  An isolated northern community or all over?  I doubt in the maritimes.  But depending on rent prices where it is, could be worth it if true.  Geeze, I had no idea.  I may have to go home to work then. 
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: hangook77 on September 02, 2021, 12:47:04 pm
The average Mcdonald's salary in Canada is $25,350 per year or $13 per hour.
Entry level positions start at $23,000 per year.
https://ca.talent.com/salary?job=mcdonalds#:~:text=The%20average%20mcdonalds%20salary%20in,up%20to%20%2429%2C738%20per%20year.

The $25/hour job they're advertising probably requires high enough credentials that the people who actually qualify can get better remuneration elsewhere... hence the relatively reasonable hourly wage being offered.

Also... "can't get no one." ?  :huh:

The wbsite says $25, 350 a year.  Korean salary at 2.1 million won a month converted into CAD is $27,397.66.  Living at home with the folks if you can earn more than minimum is more money.  But it does demonstrate in real numbers how pitiful teachers salaries are nowadays. 
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: hangook77 on September 02, 2021, 12:56:56 pm
I just did a random search on 20 dollar an hour jobs in Calgary.  This is what came up though I am not sure if they are all paying this.  https://ca.indeed.com/$20-jobs-in-South-Calgary,-AB

Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: hangook77 on September 02, 2021, 01:03:53 pm
I saw this one for 16 an hour.  So some may be paying more.  Grocery clerk. 

https://ca.indeed.com/jobs?q=%2420&l=South%20Calgary%2C%20AB&start=20&vjk=7fe7cca8d2355b06

If fulltime 37.5 hours a week minimum multiplied by 52 weeks in a year that is $31200 a year.  Better than Korea nowadays if you can live with the folks or home cheaply. 

28,705,815.62 KRW a year. Just short of 2.4 million won a month. 

I'd say if you can get a 20 dollar an hour job or more in Canada and can live at home with the folks or board cheap, it may be worth it to say goodbye to Korea soon.  Many parts of the US have a cheaper cost of living (away from the coasts).  So if you are American and find 18 an hour or more and can live at home to save cash, take that for a bit and save some money or pay off loans or whatever. 

Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: hangook77 on September 02, 2021, 01:04:54 pm
I actually hadn't considered the home angle.  Things have changed though the cost of living may be more shocking than I realized.  I am aware living costs have gone up a lot since I left. 
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: Aristocrat on September 02, 2021, 01:23:23 pm
The wbsite says $25, 350 a year.  Korean salary at 2.1 million won a month converted into CAD is $27,397.66.  Living at home with the folks if you can earn more than minimum is more money.  But it does demonstrate in real numbers how pitiful teachers salaries are nowadays. 

The average HS teacher in SA earns CAD $20,000 a year, $5,000 short of a Mcdonalds worker in Canada.
If the South African HS teacher landed a job in Canada, they'd be earning $46,524 dollars a year.
If the Canadian Mcdonalds worker went to South Africa and worked at a Mcdonalds there, they'd be earning $3,154 a year, not $25,350.

https://www.payscale.com/research/ZA/Job=High_School_Teacher/Salary

My grandfather taught me this basic concept when I was about 10yrs old and I got it; the cost of living and economies vary dramatically by country.

If you're Canadian and wish to be paid more money as a teacher, why not just be a teacher in Canada???? You possess the passport of one of the wealthiest 1st world nations on Earth, why bushwhack around in the developing world to earn developing world salaries?
Right, you can't teach in Canada. You wouldn't get hired because you are not qualified.
Higher pay, in education, comes with more responsibilities and skills, which you prove by producing credentials. Few employers are gullible or foolish enough to be impressed that you can make a bomb game your bitch.

Ergo, go back to school.

If you want more money and don't want to improve your qualifications might I suggest starting a career with Onlyfans?
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: Kyndo on September 02, 2021, 01:28:24 pm
The wbsite says $25, 350 a year.  Korean salary at 2.1 million won a month converted into CAD is $27,397.66.  Living at home with the folks if you can earn more than minimum is more money.  But it does demonstrate in real numbers how pitiful teachers salaries are nowadays. 
Won't disagree with you. 2.1 is pretty crap.

But compare apples to apples: 2.1 is entry level wages for a NET here in Korea, so one should be comparing it with the 23k number from McD's.

Also, tax differences, welfare quality differences, cost of living differences etc make directly comparing wages a bit more difficult than a lot of people would like to pretend.
I made a lot more money back home, but am saving a lot more over here while living the same lifestyle, more or less.

Better to compare saving potential rather than earning potential.
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: hangook77 on September 02, 2021, 02:41:07 pm
Won't disagree with you. 2.1 is pretty crap.

But compare apples to apples: 2.1 is entry level wages for a NET here in Korea, so one should be comparing it with the 23k number from McD's.

Also, tax differences, welfare quality differences, cost of living differences etc make directly comparing wages a bit more difficult than a lot of people would like to pretend.
I made a lot more money back home, but am saving a lot more over here while living the same lifestyle, more or less.

Better to compare saving potential rather than earning potential.

Well, as I said, if you live at home with the folks or rent a room cheaply and if you live in a place that pays at least 25,000 a year, you can prob save a lot.  Live at home with free room and board or something cheap even if you do pay a bit to mom and pop.  I think saving 500 US in Korea a month can be beaten at home based on this.  Living on your own is something different of course unless you get a job well into the 30's per year.  As for the jobs here, they paid 3 million a month in today's money.  Now, they don't. 
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: L I on September 02, 2021, 06:14:22 pm
Average college graduate starting salary: $55,260.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/01/college-graduate-starting-salaries-are-at-an-all-time-high.html

Average starting salary for a computer programming major: $86,098.

What's the average starting salary for a gender studies major? The article doesn't say. But the way the world's going with woke-ism momentum, that might be a growth industry.
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: grimlock2 on September 02, 2021, 07:19:54 pm

Yes I remember the way people used to scoff at those doing grievance studies at universities, claiming they'd get a huge shock when they entered the real world. Turns out the real world nowadays has jobs a plenty for them, with big companies rushing to hire them.
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: gogators! on September 03, 2021, 01:16:34 am
My father thought a friend's son had a nice job working as a metalworker with union pay. He made too much to quit, drove a sports car and killed himself with a bullet to the head.
Live fast, die young and leave a beautiful corpse.
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: KimDuHan on September 03, 2021, 02:28:36 am
The average Mcdonald's salary in Canada is $25,350 per year or $13 per hour.
Entry level positions start at $23,000 per year.
https://ca.talent.com/salary?job=mcdonalds#:~:text=The%20average%20mcdonalds%20salary%20in,up%20to%20%2429%2C738%20per%20year.

The $25/hour job they're advertising probably requires high enough credentials that the people who actually qualify can get better remuneration elsewhere... hence the relatively reasonable hourly wage being offered.

Also... "can't get no one." ?  :huh:

Minimum wage in the majority of provinces is above $13.00 an hour.

Alberta and BC are around $15 for example, no Canadians will work for minimum wage!

So not sure where 13.00 is the average
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: gogators! on September 03, 2021, 05:50:21 am
If you add in the cost of housing and food, the way hankook inflates his salary, that 3.9 million would be close to, if not more than, 5 million. And you don't have to go to China.
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: L I on September 03, 2021, 06:28:48 am
Minimum wage is a starting wage. It’s what 15 to 19 year olds get at the beginning of their first unskilled part time job. Gradually over time, one earns more and more.
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: grimlock2 on September 03, 2021, 06:43:52 am
Here's an interesting thread if you want to know how much UK teachers are saving. Of course they get decent pensions and mortgages but it still isn't that impressive. A lot of them are saving 0 pounds.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeachingUK/comments/pgh491/as_a_teacher_how_much_have_you_got_in_savings/
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: Kyndo on September 03, 2021, 07:07:06 am
Minimum wage in the majority of provinces is above $13.00 an hour.

Alberta and BC are around $15 for example, no Canadians will work for minimum wage!

So not sure where 13.00 is the average

4 of the 10 provinces have a minimum wage of over $13.
The territories do as well, but there are some pretty extreme cost of living caveats there that make it necessary.
https://www.retailcouncil.org/resources/quick-facts/minimum-wage-by-province/

As of 2021, $13/hour is the national average of McDonalds employees.
Entry level workers make less, managers etc make more.
https://ca.talent.com/salary?job=mcdonalds
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: VanIslander on September 03, 2021, 07:26:01 am
There's a recent ad on Dave's ESL Cafe for an online English teacher to "work from anywhere" teaching Korean students. The pay rate: $12 an hour.
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: HiddenInKorea on September 03, 2021, 07:56:56 am
There's a recent ad on Dave's ESL Cafe for an online English teacher to "work from anywhere" teaching Korean students. The pay rate: $12 an hour.

What are the qualifications for the job? Does the applicant need to be a Native English Speaker from the 7 countries with a college degree, or is it open to other English speakers from Europe, Indian, Philippines?
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: HiddenInKorea on September 03, 2021, 08:14:58 am
Here's an interesting thread if you want to know how much UK teachers are saving. Of course they get decent pensions and mortgages but it still isn't that impressive. A lot of them are saving 0 pounds.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeachingUK/comments/pgh491/as_a_teacher_how_much_have_you_got_in_savings/


The one thing that has been great about Korea is the ability to save the majority of one's income.
While teachers in the UK might have higher wages, the higher cost of living there eats up into their savings potential.
I know that many, including myself, are not happy about the wages in Korea in the TEFL industry in 2021, but to be honest new young grads still have the ability to save up to $1,000 USD if they are really frugal.
And honestly, I came to realize that in a way our industry in Korea here is very much protected and exclusive thanks to Korean xenophobia and racism towards East Asians (there are tons of excellent and qualified teachers in the Philippines and India with teachers licenses that could do the Job of a young North American college grad for much cheaper ), but thanks to the Korean mothers, they will never be allowed to set foot into the majority of the classrooms. Secondly, luckily Korea has strict rules on who can obtain the E-2 teaching visa, which disqualifies Scandinavian countries, where citizens speak almost fluent English, and non- bachelor degree holding North American, Australians, ect). Incoming teachers are still pretty lucky to have such plentiful and abundant opportunities to get a job in a week and move anywhere in the country (this kind of flexibility isn't readily available back home).


Here is an article on Indian EPIK teachers
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/special/2010/11/181_76086.html (http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/special/2010/11/181_76086.html)
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: grimlock2 on September 03, 2021, 08:42:18 am
The school has 'challenged the prejudice' by paying the Indian teacher less than another nationality for doing exactly the same job  :smiley: 

I've nothing against Indians or Phillipino/as working as English teachers as long as parents/schools etc. acknowledge that they may not be native speaker standard, even if they have advanced TEFL qualifications. If they desire a native speaker quality accent they can require an 8/9 at IELTS speaking, with a minimum 8 for pron if they wanted to.
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: 745sticky on September 03, 2021, 08:57:00 am
While teachers in the UK might have higher wages, the higher cost of living there eats up into their savings potential.

yeah, thats the main thing for me. back in the states where i lived an apartment will run you around 1k on the low end. of course you can always go rural but then theres the issue of finding a job out there, and youd also have to be well-suited to a more secluded lifestyle unless you want to spend what you wouldve spent on rent making weekend trips to the city. that said if i had a remote job that provided a secure income or hell won the lottery and could live off investments id probably make like my uncle and buy a cabin up in the mountains to spend most of my years.
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: HiddenInKorea on September 03, 2021, 11:30:46 am
The school has 'challenged the prejudice' by paying the Indian teacher less than another nationality for doing exactly the same job  :smiley: 

I've nothing against Indians or Phillipino/as working as English teachers as long as parents/schools etc. acknowledge that they may not be native speaker standard, even if they have advanced TEFL qualifications. If they desire a native speaker quality accent they can require an 8/9 at IELTS speaking, with a minimum 8 for pron if they wanted to.

I'm highly against having them in this industry .. it'll keep driving the wags down and our jobs would be in danger.
Maybe its a good thing that the 3D factory work is paying higer wage these days, hopefully they'll all go there!
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: tylerthegloob on September 03, 2021, 12:02:07 pm
at least some of them know when to use "use to" vs "used to"...
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: L I on November 30, 2021, 04:37:50 pm
Yes I remember the way people used to scoff at those doing grievance studies at universities, claiming they'd get a huge shock when they entered the real world. Turns out the real world nowadays has jobs a plenty for them, with big companies rushing to hire them.

As Nikole Hannah-Jones' new book is topping some best-seller lists, she has used the 1619 Project as a platform to charge what a critic calls "exorbitant" speaking fees to schools across the country.

Her book, "The 1619 Project," is based on The New York Times 1619 Project, which has been criticized for allegedly telling inaccurate parts of history, such as the claim that the main goal of the Revolutionary War was to preserve slavery.

Nikole Hannah-Jones' new book is topping the best-seller lists of both Amazon and The New York Times in its first week. There's also a children's version of the book, titled "The 1619 Project: Born on the Water."

After Hannah-Jones published the 1619 Project in August 2019, she began giving paid speeches to many schools around the country, ranging from kindergarten all the way through college.


https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/critical-race-theory-backer-nikole-115314962.html

Xu also said it's "bad for education" when schools are spending large amounts of money to host speakers peddling critical race theory.

"You're paying these people basically to teach kids to hate society and hate the structure of America, which of course, is going to prevent them later in life from being able to go and achieve their wildest dreams," Xu said.
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: L I on November 30, 2021, 04:50:08 pm
Better to compare saving potential rather than earning potential.

Less of a slam dunk than it initially appears when one considers money paid into retirement accounts in the West.
Title: Re: 2,700,000 won-3.9million won
Post by: gogators! on December 01, 2021, 04:19:51 am
Less of a slam dunk than it initially appears when one considers money paid into retirement accounts in the West.
One can consider SS, but few companies (government excluded and many of those pensions have been aggressively cut back) provide real pensions any more so retirement accounts in the US are basically self-funded. And SS is meant solely to keep one out of abject poverty.