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Symposium => "Open" Discussions => Topic started by: Mr.DeMartino on May 18, 2021, 02:01:38 pm
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The discussions this week are lame. Break up the Sino-minutiae.
Figure this should be discuss-y enough without being troll-y.
Get rid of sailing. If you're going to keep it, add sharks or some shit.
Add in MMA. It's one of the biggest sports in the world and for it not to be an Olympic sport is just plain stubbornness.
Also, they should add American football just because.
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Get rid of some of those shooting events. It's not like shooting a gun is a great test of your athletic ability. Or the equestrians events, if you got to involve another living being, it shouldn't be in the Olympics.
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Horse racing is the sport of kings and equestrian is the sport of gentlemen and ladies. I say it stays. Riding horses is NOT easy. There's a definite body skill factor involved. That being said, yeah I can see that the people will be gunning for equestrian events.
The problem with shooting is they use those lame air pistols. Have people compete with real firearms. That or have them do like, the Gurkha shooting competition or some sort of John Wick course.
Maybe add shuffleboard?
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Horse racing is the sport of kings and equestrian is the sport of gentlemen and ladies. I say it stays. Riding horses is NOT easy. There's a definite body skill factor involved.
Didn't say it was easy, but exploitive. It's not like you know the horse's true feelings about getting on a plane, and then competing.
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I think the next sport added will be trans women ballet!! There won't be real women's sport left in a few more years if the crazies get their wish....
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I think the next sport added will be trans women ballet!! There won't be real women's sport left in a few more years if the crazies get their wish....
What exactly is it that "the crazies" wish to happen? What sports have already been ruined by them? And which sport is next on their agenda?
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What exactly is it that "the crazies" wish to happen? What sports have already been ruined by them? And which sport is next on their agenda?
That's a good question. I guess they are just beginning their ascent so there is plenty of ruining to be done.
https://www.usatodaysun.com/spanish-politician-temporarily-suspended-by-twitter-after-saying-a-man-cannot-get-pregnant-2/
A man can't get pregnant is a triggering statement that will fire up the crazies and the extremists.
Science doesn't matter when it comes to feelings.
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That's a good question. I guess they are just beginning their ascent so there is plenty of ruining to be done.
https://www.usatodaysun.com/spanish-politician-temporarily-suspended-by-twitter-after-saying-a-man-cannot-get-pregnant-2/
A man can't get pregnant is a triggering statement that will fire up the crazies and the extremists.
Science doesn't matter when it comes to feelings.
What does that have to do with sports?
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What does that have to do with sports?
Uh the fact that men are trying to take over womens sports. Read the comment above.
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More crazies.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/524022-kids-becoming-trans-lgbtq-crusade/
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Uh the fact that men are trying to take over womens sports. Read the comment above.
So what sports have already been ruined? And what is next?
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Figure this should be discuss-y enough without being troll-y.
You know better than that
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Is bullfighting an Olympic sport? Also, an incredibly elaborate obstacle course a la American Gladiator would be cool. Great for TV. Equestrian events may require skill but how many people outside of the event are tuning into an afternoon of dressage?
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Add in MMA. It's one of the biggest sports in the world and for it not to be an Olympic sport is just plain stubbornness.
when we add MMA, are we getting rid of boxing, karate, judo, taekwondo, and the two kinds of wrestling?
also get rid of curling, who gives a fk about curling
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Uh the fact that men are trying to take over womens sports. Read the comment above.
You a big fan of women's sports there? Support them by going to watch your local team? Or are you just using them as a prop for whatever beef you have?
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also get rid of curling, who gives a fk about curling
This is offensive.
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https://www.today.com/news/caitlyn-jenner-says-transgender-girls-shouldn-t-play-women-s-t217185
https://www.wsj.com/articles/should-trans-women-compete-in-women-s-sports-11573602744
https://www.westernjournal.com/transgender-fighter-broke-womans-skull-mma-ring-now-called-bravest-athlete-history/
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Equestrian events may require skill but how many people outside of the event are tuning into an afternoon of dressage?
Maybe not dressage, but show jumping. And if they added some horse racing to it, well that would certainly draw interest.
If the bull was given metal-tipped horns and none of those piccadillos or whoever on horses helping out the matador, then I'd be for that. Something like a 50-50 between the man and the bull. Give em one of those 1950s style boxing posters "Throwdown in Cape Town" Or have it be the first Olympics in international waters.
when we add MMA, are we getting rid of boxing, karate, judo, taekwondo, and the two kinds of wrestling?
Hmmm...should be under consideration
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i think all the fight sports should stay as they're all sufficiently different (except karate. karate can **** right off after 2020). MAYBE get rid of greco-roman. but boxing/tkd/judo/wrestling are all different enough imo
i'd love to see skateboarding but it's too subjective. but an olympic game of SKATE would be tight
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You a big fan of women's sports there? Support them by going to watch your local team? Or are you just using them as a prop for whatever beef you have?
Well, I could advocate for men's sport, but trans men are no threat physically speaking. They still have a women's lung, heart, muscle, and bone density.
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Maybe not dressage, but show jumping. And if they added some horse racing to it, well that would certainly draw interest.
If the bull was given metal-tipped horns and none of those piccadillos or whoever on horses helping out the matador, then I'd be for that. Something like a 50-50 between the man and the bull. Give em one of those 1950s style boxing posters "Throwdown in Cape Town" Or have it be the first Olympics in international waters.
Hmmm...should be under consideration
Oh yeah, horse racing would be exciting.
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This is offensive.
"they hated jesus because he told them the truth"
i'd love to see skateboarding but it's too subjective. but an olympic game of SKATE would be tight
skateboarding is supposed to debut at the 2020 olympics :)
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i'd love to see skateboarding but it's too subjective. but an olympic game of SKATE would be tight
No more than snowboarding halfpipe or figure skating.
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The discussions this week are lame. Break up the Sino-minutiae.
Figure this should be discuss-y enough without being troll-y.
Get rid of sailing. If you're going to keep it, add sharks or some shit.
Add in MMA. It's one of the biggest sports in the world and for it not to be an Olympic sport is just plain stubbornness.
Also, they should add American football just because.
MMA fighters are not about to fight for free.....
American football...so essentially it would be just the US and Canada...not even a bronze medal would be awarded.
You're off your game today.
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Maybe not dressage, but show jumping. And if they added some horse racing to it, well that would certainly draw interest.
If the bull was given metal-tipped horns and none of those piccadillos or whoever on horses helping out the matador, then I'd be for that. Something like a 50-50 between the man and the bull. Give em one of those 1950s style boxing posters "Throwdown in Cape Town" Or have it be the first Olympics in international waters.
Hmmm...should be under consideration
There are tracks for horse racing.. you can make money there...
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MMA fighters are not about to fight for free.....
American football...so essentially it would be just the US and Canada...not even a bronze medal would be awarded.
You're off your game today.
You'd still have Mexico, American Samoa, US Virgin Islands, and Puerto Rico. Plus a bunch of U.S. athletes could just represent a country of origin.
Also, it would be a great chance for all those Commonwealthers trashing NFL because of the pads and whatnot to put their money where their mouths are.
MMA fighters would fight for gold because of the money they'd get in future bouts.
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There are tracks for horse racing.. you can make money there...
Yes and they should have one at the Olympics.
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Well, I could advocate for men's sport, but trans men are no threat physically speaking. They still have a women's lung, heart, muscle, and bone density.
If you want to advocate for women's sport, how about starting with attending matches, buying merchandise, supporting equal funding and resources, and supporting a harassment free environment for their athletes?
Transgender and fairness of competition is such a relatively minor issue in the scope of women's sport. There are massive disparities in terms of funding and resources that have way more of an effect on women's athletics than a few celebrity cases of transgender athletes dominating.
Also, the sports science is still out on the whole issue, while I certainly lean in one direction, the direction you advocate, we have to explore things long term and with adequate sample sizes. There's also the possibility of additional therapies or requirements to make sure there is a level playing field. This is early in the process so mistakes will be made and solutions will be developed. That's the what's great about right now- A bunch of different sports associations and states and school districts and governing bodies are trying a bunch of different rules and methods and we can compare their results. The fact is we need some competitions to be open so we can see what happens. Yes, it might create some disappointing outcomes, but it's the only way we will be able to develop effective policy.
Anyways, you don't have to watch WNBA over NBA, but if you want to advocate for women's sport pick a local team or a certain sport (and not oggling at beach volleyball or tennis) and support it. I'd say women's handball here is pretty alright. or indoor volleyball. Or women's football overseas.
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i think all the fight sports should stay as they're all sufficiently different (except karate. karate can **** right off after 2020). MAYBE get rid of greco-roman. but boxing/tkd/judo/wrestling are all different enough imo
i'd love to see skateboarding but it's too subjective. but an olympic game of SKATE would be tight
I propose that karate and tkd have a winner-take-all showdown!
I kid.
TKD is more sport, and Karate is more a martial art.
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remove dressage
put in dodgeball
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I think the next sport added will be trans women ballet!! There won't be real women's sport left in a few more years if the crazies get their wish....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAA1xgTTw9w
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Take out anything 'horsey' and add Twenty20 cricket.
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ADD: Mixed Martial Arts. Or cricket. Or more global: free running!
SUBTRACT: Rythmic gymnastics
Teenage girls twirling a ribbon and dancing to music always seemed like a joke.
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Get rid of Race walking
Add competitive tag, parkour or slap competitions
Also, it would be a great chance for all those Commonwealthers trashing NFL because of the pads and whatnot to put their money where their mouths are.
NFL will never catch on outside the US. It's just too complex, expensive and specialised. If we look at soccer/football, the most popular sport on Earth, we see that its popularity is based on simplicity and ease of access, all you need is a round ball and makeshift posts.
Like Rugby union, NFL is complex and requires a team to play.
I'm not sure about NFL, but Rugby's popularity has gradually been growing thanks to changes in the laws/rules to make the game more fast-paced, exciting and safe. Gone are the days of the ref stopping the game every 10sec for every minor infraction or being very stingy with the substitutions forcing players to play longer games and limiting the amount of power, speed and aggression we see on the field.
For the rest of the world to be interested, NFL has to scratch an itch that Rugby doesn't.
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SUBTRACT: Rythmic gymnastics
Teenage girls twirling a ribbon and dancing to music always seemed like a joke.
Yeah, forgot about this. Take it out!
Get rid of Race walking
And this! Really thrilling :lipsrsealed:
For the rest of the world to be interested, NFL has to scratch an itch that Rugby doesn't.
;D ;D ;D
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Get rid of some of those shooting events. It's not like shooting a gun is a great test of your athletic ability. Or the equestrians events, if you got to involve another living being, it shouldn't be in the Olympics.
Couldn't disagree more. I did biathlon (skiing and shooting) in Canada. Extremely
demanding and requiring immense skill and concentration.
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Ski ski shoot. Ski ski shoot.
A World War European Alps exercise in warfare.
Ugh. Hate the Biathlon.
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Couldn't disagree more. I did biathlon (skiing and shooting) in Canada. Extremely
demanding and requiring immense skill and concentration.
Perhaps, but do enough people wish to watch it to warrant it being part of the largest competitive sporting event on Earth?
Professional athletes are also professional entertainers and their sport needs to have an element of entertainment, particularly if it's to be part of the Olympics.
If not, the sport needs to adapt to be more entertaining and sports such as Rugby (7s and the evolution of the laws) and Cricket (T20) have adapted to be more entertaining to watch, while still maintaining the core elements of the game.
Sports like Olympic shooting and even fencing have become so technical, digital and lifeless to watch. Olympic shooting is a guy holding a pellet gun, a very slight click noise, followed by a tiny hole appearing on a piece of paper... yawn.
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Perhaps, but do enough people wish to watch it to warrant it being part of the largest competitive sporting event on Earth?
Professional athletes are also professional entertainers and their sport needs to have an element of entertainment, particularly if it's to be part of the Olympics.
If not, the sport needs to adapt to be more entertaining and sports such as Rugby (7s and the evolution of the laws) and Cricket (T20) have adapted to be more entertaining to watch, while still maintaining the core elements of the game.
Sports like Olympic shooting and even fencing have become so technical, digital and lifeless to watch. Olympic shooting is a guy holding a pellet gun, a very slight click noise, followed by a tiny hole appearing on a piece of paper... yawn.
When I was a kid, the Olympics was about amateur sport; professionals were not allowed. It is only the past few decades it has become an major advertising and entertainment event.
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Ski ski shoot. Ski ski shoot.
A World War European Alps exercise in warfare.
Ugh. Hate the Biathlon.
Perhaps you should realize the Olympics was founded as warfare
practice and competition. Discus, javelin, wrestling, chariots.
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Teenage girls twirling a ribbon and dancing to music always seemed like a joke.
Gymnastics has always been a core element of the Olympics and in some more conservative countries, is one of the few disciplines that will get decent funding for women's sport.
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NFL will never catch on outside the US. It's just too complex, expensive and specialised. If we look at soccer/football, the most popular sport on Earth, we see that its popularity is based on simplicity and ease of access, all you need is a round ball and makeshift posts.
Like Rugby union, NFL is complex and requires a team to play.
I'm not sure about NFL, but Rugby's popularity has gradually been growing thanks to changes in the laws/rules to make the game more fast-paced, exciting and safe. Gone are the days of the ref stopping the game every 10sec for every minor infraction or being very stingy with the substitutions forcing players to play longer games and limiting the amount of power, speed and aggression we see on the field.
For the rest of the world to be interested, NFL has to scratch an itch that Rugby doesn't.
I basically agree. I just needed something non-Sino related to fire up the discussion. NFL has too many play stoppages (boring) and is way too expensive for most other countries.
At the same time I would like to see an all-out brawl for footballing supremacy with Gaellic, rugby union, rugby league, Aussie, and NFL.
One thing I've come to realize, is that Europeans/Commonwealthers are often just as ignorant about sport as Americans are and possibly more so. It's getting better in the youtube and streaming age, but still, you often get people online who are wildly misinformed about American sports and their setup and also the level of athleticism they have, particularly in basketball and football. Like I've seen people claim that Ronaldo can outjump NBA athletes and that rugby athletes are faster and hit harder (because no pads) and basically anyone with an honest eye and half a brain can see that isn't true.
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Gymnastics has always been a core element of the Olympics and in some more conservative countries, is one of the few disciplines that will get decent funding for women's sport.
There's a BIG difference between gymnastics and that silly thing called "rhythmic gymnastics" that became an Olympic sport when I was in middle school.
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IMO just get rid of the Olympics period.
And for whoever was dissing curling, it's a little known fact that the sweeper in curling is one of the best conditioned athletes in any sport.
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What exactly is it that "the crazies" wish to happen? What sports have already been ruined by them? And which sport is next on their agenda?
6th post. Derailment commenced.
Get rid of synchronized swimming. Add ballroom dancing.
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Get rid of canoeing. (although it is a lot of fun)
Introduce disc golf.
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6th post. Derailment commenced.
Get rid of synchronized swimming. Add ballroom dancing.
Any “judged” sport should go.
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Any “judged” sport should go.
ehhhhhh im not so sure. boxing is judged unless someone gets knocked out
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Bring back jousting. Maybe add knight fights too.
And for the winter Olympics- dog sled racing. Yeah, some groups will whine and moan. So what?
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Bring back jousting. Maybe add knight fights too.
And for the winter Olympics- dog sled racing. Yeah, some groups will whine and moan. So what?
Koreans can eat their equipment when the games are over and save on logistics costs.
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dog sled racing
wack. take out any sport that has animals doing more work than humans. or make a seperate animal olympics.
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Koreans can eat their equipment when the games are over and save on logistics costs.
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wack. take out any sport that has animals doing more work than humans. or make a seperate animal olympics.
Meh, rowers are doing more work than the coxswain. Cox still gets a gold.
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did you just compare rowers to horses?
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Any “judged” sport should go.
Cool. So to make it better have full contact ballroom dancing. Last couple standing wins.
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ehhhhhh im not so sure. boxing is judged unless someone gets knocked out
Boxing is scored; it is more like soccer than figure skating imho. The judges count points. The nature of it is such that an accurate count is difficult, so they have a panel.
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Boxing is scored; it is more like soccer than figure skating imho. The judges count points. The nature of it is such that an accurate count is difficult, so they have a panel.
Korea 1 - USA 0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJYBV9BXQNY
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IMO just get rid of the Olympics period.
And for whoever was dissing curling, it's a little known fact that the sweeper in curling is one of the best conditioned athletes in any sport.
Or just make the Olympics pay for themselves rather than cities and governments. No public welfare handouts.
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The Olympics is boring to watch, and so much of the judging is biased.
Turn the whole thing into a gladiator pit. Let the lions judge their fates.
Tbqs, I would definitely watch an Iron-man-esque type of obstacle course marathon run.
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Get rid of canoeing. (although it is a lot of fun)
Introduce disc golf.
Damn if I actually don't leave here, I gotta buy me a canoe.
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F. I forgot...why isn't bowling an Olympic sport?
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F. I forgot...why isn't bowling an Olympic sport?
My uncle represented New Brunswick as a bowler in the Canada Games back in the day.
Picture a small group of 16 year olds with beer-guts among a larger group of athletes.
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Add hapkido. No ice hockey.
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Add hapkido.
username checks out
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And for whoever was dissing curling, it's a little known fact that the sweeper in curling is one of the best conditioned athletes in any sport.
regrettably, it is still incredibly boring
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Parkour could be something new and exciting to watch,
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regrettably, it is still incredibly boring
Disagree. The Korea-Japan semifinal in 2018 was electric sports viewing. If you have a team in it playing for something, it certainly is exciting. A bit like golf, you can have entire rounds or matches which might be nothing more than the occasional nice shot and something to be entertained for an hour and sleep for two hours too on a lazy weekend afternoon. Then all of a sudden you get something tight like a Ryder Cup showdown that's down to the wire or a three-way playoff at the PGA or something and it becomes incredibly tense and exciting.
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regrettably, it is still incredibly boring
An acquired taste perhaps. But, if you've ever played curling you'd know how tough it is to do anything. Korea has a winter, 4 seasons in fact, there must be a curling rink somewhere.
Curling was offered as a gym course when I was in school! It ain't easy.
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An acquired taste perhaps. But, if you've ever played curling you'd know how tough it is to do anything. Korea has a winter, 4 seasons in fact, there must be a curling rink somewhere.
Yes, they do. I think I heard about that in 2018 for some reason. I can't remember why. Probably some obscure article or something that was overlooked by mostly everyone here.
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If you taught at a school anywhere near it, it would make for a very fun and extremely funny field trip.
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An acquired taste perhaps. But, if you've ever played curling you'd know how tough it is to do anything. Korea has a winter, 4 seasons in fact, there must be a curling rink somewhere.
Curling was offered as a gym course when I was in school! It ain't easy.
'Young-Mi!!!!'
Korean women won silver in 2018. They train somewhere near Daegu, like in Uiseong, or some town like that.
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So...a general theme seems to be more 'exciting' versions of current sports
Summer
Shooting -> John Wick style competitions
Equestrian -> Jousting
High Jump -> Parkour/Obstacle Courses
Pentathlon -> American Gladiators
Martial Arts -> MMA
Fencing -> Knight Fights
Rowing/Conoeing/Sailing -> ????? Canoe jousting? Pirating? Plank Walking?
Winter
Biathlon -> More extreme/John Wick Shooting
Curling -> Based Curling???
Others???
It appears everyone wants more danger/violence. We apparently are not entertained.
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High Jump -> Parkour/Obstacle Courses
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Martial Arts -> MMA
Agreed.
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regrettably, it is still incredibly boring
You're kidding right? The tension builds and builds as the stone slowly makes its way down the sheet toward the house.
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So...a general theme seems to be more 'exciting' versions of current sports
Summer
Shooting -> John Wick style competitions
Equestrian -> Jousting
High Jump -> Parkour/Obstacle Courses
Pentathlon -> American Gladiators
Martial Arts -> MMA
Fencing -> Knight Fights
Rowing/Conoeing/Sailing -> ????? Canoe jousting? Pirating? Plank Walking?
Winter
Biathlon -> More extreme/John Wick Shooting
Curling -> Based Curling???
Others???
It appears everyone wants more danger/violence. We apparently are not entertained.
And it would be sponsored by cheetos and mountain dew.