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Title: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: hangook77 on March 01, 2021, 08:31:07 pm
Back to the grind kids!!!

First day of school soon.  How goes it? 

I am told orientations and maybe still some kids staying home according to the news?

I've been on vacation for 3 and a half weeks, so I have no clue what is going on at my schools.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: Mr C on March 01, 2021, 09:17:50 pm
That's gonna depend on your social distancing #.

At my school (in Seoul, part of SMOE), as of tomorrow, grades 1 and 2 get 5 days in school, and grades 3 to 6 get two days. 

The current plan is one in-school English class per week for 4th grade, dunno for fifth grade, but at least one in-school class, and sixth grade teachers are going to meet on Thursday to decide.  Sixth grade is also considering expanding the Zoom format.  We'll see if they want to put English into that--up to this point, the "online" has been all videos, interactive activities like educandy and whatever related (non-sign-in) interactives I can find (for me.  KT use e-haksubta, mainly, and other Korean-language-heavy sites).  Plus the occasional take-home worksheet that they're supposed to do with a video.  And of course the online textbook stuff. 

I bet that didn't help much, but anyway. 
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: thunderlips on March 02, 2021, 07:32:05 am
Back to normal here in the sticks, but with a condensed schedule mainly to keep the lunchroom flowing.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: Chinguetti on March 02, 2021, 07:42:54 am
Mostly normal, but we're still going to be hybrid. 1/3 of the school will be online while the rest will be f2f. A different grade will be doing online classes each week. English camps are expected to resume this summer, but with social distancing kept in mind -- I was one of the lucky ones, had all of my camps canceled last year.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: Kayos on March 02, 2021, 07:49:01 am
Should be normal here.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: hangook77 on March 02, 2021, 08:00:22 am
Yeah, I just found out today that not all kids are back.  Some kids are still doing online.  I think my schools were hyping it over a month ago that all kids would be back and things would be back to normal.  I am sure it will be soon enough.  A google search on herd immunity will yield wonders.  So, the end is coming vaccine or not.  Nice welcome break to not have full class load just yet, I guess.  Most of my ppts are already done.  So, read and listen to YouTube.  Ha ha.   (But gr 3 and 4 textbooks will p[probably change next year.  Too bad I couldn't get a head start on those.)
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: CO2 on March 02, 2021, 08:04:09 am
0.18% of Koreans have gotten the virus.......... how does that affect herd immunity?
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: OnNut81 on March 02, 2021, 08:07:01 am
  (But gr 3 and 4 textbooks will p[probably change next year.  Too bad I couldn't get a head start on those.)

You'll be in China then, though.  Won't be anything you have to worry about. 
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: Chinguetti on March 02, 2021, 08:07:49 am
Well, I'm predicting that schools will be mostly back to normal at the start of the second semester. We'll probably still be expected to wear masks until next year, but that's my guess atm.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: Kayos on March 02, 2021, 08:09:57 am
Well, I'm predicting that schools will be mostly back to normal at the start of the second semester. We'll probably still be expected to wear masks until next year, but that's my guess atm.

Yeah, I also heard they plan to start rolling vaccines out soon too. I read Q1 was elderly and at risk people, Q2 - think it was essential workers, Q3 - was educators and something else, Q4 everyone else.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: L I on March 02, 2021, 08:12:31 am
0.18% of Koreans have gotten the virus...

Most likely way more than that got it but didnít even know they had it and now have antibodies against it. Some people donít feel sick at all from coronavirus; their body defeats it very quickly. Still, herd immunity in Korea is a long way off. Gonna be another year I guess.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: hangook77 on March 02, 2021, 08:22:47 am
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/herd-immunity-april-expert-coronavirus

Herd immunity coming according to John Hopkins.  Also, we know many people were deathly ill and very very sick with covid like symptoms with the nastiest cold many had in years before covid was officially announced.  Through the fall of 2019 for example.  Covid didn't begin in February 2020 just because the media decided to recognize it then.  So, we will by summer be coming up on two years of this at least. 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/well-have-herd-immunity-by-april-11613669731?reflink=desktopwebshare_twitter

Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: L I on March 02, 2021, 08:41:56 am
Guys and gals, keep your immune system strong to protect yourself and others.

Ten years ago, I got H1N1 (the swine flu). Was sick for days. At the time I drank, smoked, didnít eat particularly healthfully, and never exercised.

But now I never smoke or drink, eat healthy food, and exercise daily. And you know what? I havenít been sick for years. (In my past life I got sick a lot.) Iím confident if I got the swine flu now I wouldnít even know I had gotten it because my body would kill it so quickly. Same with coronavirus. Iím not afraid at all. (Koreans are on average much healthier than the average person from our countries of origin, hence why there have been so few deaths or illnesses comparatively. A massive factor anyways. One that hasnít been brought up enough.)
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: L I on March 02, 2021, 08:46:30 am
If youíre exceptionally healthy and get a virus youíll feel nothing. If you are below average health and get a virus youíll get sick. Might even die if your body is exceptionally weak. How healthy we are is within our control.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: thunderlips on March 02, 2021, 08:50:19 am
If youíre exceptionally healthy and get a virus youíll feel nothing. If you are below average health and get a virus youíll get sick. Might even die if your body is exceptionally weak. How healthy we are is within our control.

Not true, but cool story.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: L I on March 02, 2021, 08:53:04 am
In his editorial New Rule, Bill Maher argues that people should fight the coronavirus by strengthening their immune systems, rather than by sanitizing the universe.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=28I5WyLp15o

Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: hangook77 on March 02, 2021, 08:55:36 am
In his editorial New Rule, Bill Maher argues that people should fight the coronavirus by strengthening their immune systems, rather than by sanitizing the universe.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=28I5WyLp15o



If he is not being sarcastic, then he is mostly right on this.  Though I don't mind some sanitizing habits.  (If it forces even other countries with bad habits to clean up, then it can be a good thing.)
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: Aristocrat on March 02, 2021, 09:03:30 am
If youíre exceptionally healthy and get a virus youíll feel nothing. If you are below average health and get a virus youíll get sick. Might even die if your body is exceptionally weak. How healthy we are is within our control.

Remember, you're an ESL teacher, not a world leading virologist.

Keeping fit and healthy always improves your chances, but it's far from a guarantee with a virus that's still not fully understood.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: OnNut81 on March 02, 2021, 09:04:23 am
Guys and gals, keep your immune system strong to protect yourself and others.

Ten years ago, I got H1N1 (the swine flu). Was sick for days. At the time I drank, smoked, didnít eat particularly healthfully, and never exercised.

But now I never smoke or drink, eat healthy food, and exercise daily. And you know what? I havenít been sick for years. (In my past life I got sick a lot.) Iím confident if I got the swine flu now I wouldnít even know I had gotten it because my body would kill it so quickly. Same with coronavirus. Iím not afraid at all. (Koreans are on average much healthier than the average person from our countries of origin, hence why there have been so few deaths or illnesses comparatively. A massive factor anyways. One that hasnít been brought up enough.)

Sounds pretty anecdotal to me.  You just feel your body would "kill" coronavirus so quickly you wouldn't know you'd gotten it?  Well, toss the masks and stop washing the hands, LI has it figured out.  And where do you get that Koreans are much healthier than the average western person from?  Just make it up?  Just because you were a smoking, drinking unhealthy eating individual doesn't mean we can all be put into that category.  I'll keep going to the gym and keep making an effort to eat well but I am not about to throw out the masks and social distancing.  I think when the dust is settled and studies done, the fact that Koreans were so quick to get on the mask train en masse will be held up as a contributing factor to the lower rates. 
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: D.L.Orean on March 02, 2021, 09:17:08 am
Sounds pretty anecdotal to me.  You just feel your body would "kill" coronavirus so quickly you wouldn't know you'd gotten it?  Well, toss the masks and stop washing the hands, LI has it figured out. And where do you get that Koreans are much healthier than the average western person from?  Just make it up?  Just because you were a smoking, drinking unhealthy eating individual doesn't mean we can all be put into that category.  I'll keep going to the gym and keep making an effort to eat well but I am not about to throw out the masks and social distancing.  I think when the dust is settled and studies done, the fact that Koreans were so quick to get on the mask train en masse will be held up as a contributing factor to the lower rates.

This is basically a request for a "Stossel explains" video
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: L I on March 02, 2021, 09:19:08 am
Sounds pretty anecdotal to me.  You just feel your body would "kill" coronavirus so quickly you wouldn't know you'd gotten it?

How did I go from being sick multiple times per year to never being sick? I canít feel a cold or flu anymore. I just doesnít happen. Why? Because my immune system kills the viruses before they can replicate large scale and wreck havoc on my body. Do you have another explanation?

Ok, Iíll volunteer to be injected with coronavirus to be researched (and post proof I did it) if anyone knows of a way to, let me know.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: CO2 on March 02, 2021, 09:24:50 am
if anyone knows of a way to, let me know.
Church Education Centre or Gay Club, your choice.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: L I on March 02, 2021, 09:26:53 am
And where do you get that Koreans are much healthier than the average western person from?  Just make it up?

BMI. Saffers, Aussies, Kiwis, Canucks, Brits, Irish, and Americans are fatter than Koreans. Overall on average that is an objectively true statement. Whoís more likely to be overweight - a Korean teacher or a NET?
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: Kayos on March 02, 2021, 09:29:46 am
Looks like my school is jumping straight into the normal teaching / class schedule after lunch today. :o
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: OnNut81 on March 02, 2021, 09:35:54 am
How did I go from being sick multiple times per year to never being sick? I canít feel a cold or flu anymore. I just doesnít happen. Why? Because my immune system kills the viruses before they can replicate large scale and wreck havoc on my body. Do you have another explanation?

Ok, Iíll volunteer to be injected with coronavirus to be researched (and post proof I did it) if anyone knows of a way to, let me know.

I didn't know viruses could be killed.  Are they even alive to begin with?  I feel that I have had the coronavirus numerous times (Last February when it was just getting a foothold here I flew to Florida for a couple of weeks.  Oops!) But I was fine.  How?  Through the power of prayer my friends.  And thinking good thoughts.  I also volunteer Li to get injected with Covid19. 
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: L I on March 02, 2021, 09:39:25 am
Iím not afraid because Iím healthy. Itís a liberating feeling.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: OnNut81 on March 02, 2021, 09:45:15 am
BMI. Saffers, Aussies, Kiwis, Canucks, Brits, Irish, and Americans are fatter than Koreans. Overall on average that is an objectively true statement. Whoís more likely to be overweight - a Korean teacher or a NET?

You need to research BMI.  A too low BMI can be unhealthy and lead to weakened immune systems.  I can guarantee my Korean co-teacher has a lower BMI than I do and I can also guarantee that I'm much healthier.  She eats like a bird and regularly expresses surprise that I don't wait for a jam packed morning bus, but  instead of walk a whole kilometre to school from the subway station.  BMI is not the sole yardstick for health, man. 

You know, the reason you haven't been sick might be because you're in the age bracket that doesn't get sick too often (most of us), or that you didn't get Covid19.  Do you wear a  towel as a cape at home?  Sound like a little kid.  "Covid can't get me because my body will just attack and kill it!" 

And if one needed further proof that it's "Back to the grind" it's that this thread is already teetering off the rails.  2021!

Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: Kyndo on March 02, 2021, 09:57:05 am
BMI. Saffers, Aussies, Kiwis, Canucks, Brits, Irish, and Americans are fatter than Koreans. Overall on average that is an objectively true statement. Whoís more likely to be overweight - a Korean teacher or a NET?
Just a side note: higher BMI does not necessarily mean overweight. All BMI really tells you is their weight to height ratio. A more muscular person is going to have a higher BMI than a less muscular person.  Koreans tend to have a much lighter build than most other ethnic groups, thus lower BMI values. In fact, because of this, Korean BMI charts are actually slightly different than Western ones: the values for "overweight" and "obese" here are a bit lower.
  "Skinny fat" is actually a pretty big concern here in Korea.

As for back to work.... I know that I'm working at three schools this year, but nobody seems to know on which days I'm supposed to be at any of them. I had to straight up invent a schedule to give to the immigration folk!
 Anyway, as classes have now started, I assume this problem will sort itself out in the next week or two. I'm planning on just following last year's schedule and see how that goes.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: LindaTheGr8 on March 02, 2021, 10:55:13 am
Back to normal here in Gyeongido. Some of the classrooms don't even have desk dividers. Honestly, it would take a cluster outbreak specifically in my town for my school to go online or limit student attendance
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: OnNut81 on March 02, 2021, 11:01:27 am
I've been told I won't have any classes this week and we'll see about next week.  And here I was all excited to put the eight hours of deskwarming behind me. 
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: 745sticky on March 02, 2021, 11:09:36 am
This is basically a request for a "Stossel explains" video

I hate how true this is. Luckily it seems he doesn't have one for this occasion
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: Kyndo on March 02, 2021, 11:10:23 am
Yes. Eight hours. Totally. Never left early. Wouldn't dream of it. *cough*
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: L I on March 02, 2021, 11:23:48 am
Guess youíll have to make due with a Bill Maher video.
___________________ ___________________ ___________________

Bill implores Americans do to their part in the fight against COVID-19 by confronting the country's obesity epidemic.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vDaQOy7ML38

In his editorial New Rule, Bill calls on Americans to take control of their health and address the growing obesity epidemic.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm4TAdiEFn0
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: Aristocrat on March 02, 2021, 12:25:14 pm
How did I go from being sick multiple times per year to never being sick? I canít feel a cold or flu anymore. I just doesnít happen. Why? Because my immune system kills the viruses before they can replicate large scale and wreck havoc on my body. Do you have another explanation?

I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say...

1 - Being fit and healthy sounds like it's still a novelty to you and the changes are dramatically noticeable.

2 - You and almost everyone else has regularly been wearing masks for more than a year. That plus your newfound
vigor means you're a lot less likely to get sick.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: hangook77 on March 02, 2021, 12:52:05 pm
I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say...

1 - Being fit and healthy sounds like it's still a novelty to you and the changes are dramatically noticeable.

2 - You and almost everyone else has regularly been wearing masks for more than a year. That plus your newfound
vigor means you're a lot less likely to get sick.

I only wear the mask when I go in a store or am teaching in class.  I take it off much of the time even when sitting at my desk. 
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: Aristocrat on March 02, 2021, 12:58:33 pm
I only wear the mask when I go in a store or am teaching in class.  I take it off much of the time even when sitting at my desk. 

The point being that you wear it when in close proximity to others and others do the same therefore, the rate at which everyone gets sick diminishes greatly.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: T.J. on March 02, 2021, 01:08:10 pm
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2020/11/119_299755.html

Korea is not anywhere close to herd immunity and likely will never achieve it naturally.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: MayorHaggar on March 02, 2021, 01:26:01 pm
Jesus christ. Bill Maher is a big time PETA member who has suggested anti-vaxxer theories. He is not an epidemiologist.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: hangook77 on March 02, 2021, 02:18:36 pm
The point being that you wear it when in close proximity to others and others do the same therefore, the rate at which everyone gets sick diminishes greatly.

Tell that to the idiots in North America who wear them driving in a car by themselves or the folks on a hiking or cycling trail alone outdoors wearing one.  Overkill.  Though I do notice some locals masked up even when outside social distancing.  Don't get that.  Weird. 
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: Aristocrat on March 02, 2021, 02:28:29 pm
Jesus christ. Bill Maher is a big time PETA member who has suggested anti-vaxxer theories. He is not an epidemiologist.

That aside, I would've thought that smart people understand that the opinions of people who regularly appear on TV or have their own TV shows are to be taken with a grain of salt. Their priority is to be entertaining and they'll omit details, muddy facts or straight up lie in the pursuit of being entertaining.

Academic article are dry AF, but that's were you'll find more reliable information.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: L I on March 02, 2021, 02:36:58 pm
The healthier a person is, the less impacted theyíll be by coronavirus (or any other virus). Facts.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: Kyndo on March 02, 2021, 02:46:47 pm
Generally true, I guess. But what about genetic susceptibility?

 For example, native americans are at a substantially higher risk of death to covid19 than most other ethnic groups. Part of the reason is that their immune response to covid is different.
I don't think this has much to due with health, one way or the other.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: OnNut81 on March 02, 2021, 02:51:44 pm
The healthier a person is, the less impacted theyíll be by coronavirus (or any other virus). Facts.

That was just one fact, but...obviously.  No one would dispute that.  What those in the scientific communities might dispute is that some people have an immune system that will kill coronavirus immediately, or that BMI is a standard and reliable measure of a nation's health.  Undernourished peoples would presumably be at peak condition based on LI's metric of fitness. 
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: leaponover on March 05, 2021, 05:22:31 pm
Sounds pretty anecdotal to me.  You just feel your body would "kill" coronavirus so quickly you wouldn't know you'd gotten it?  Well, toss the masks and stop washing the hands, LI has it figured out.  And where do you get that Koreans are much healthier than the average western person from?  Just make it up?  Just because you were a smoking, drinking unhealthy eating individual doesn't mean we can all be put into that category.  I'll keep going to the gym and keep making an effort to eat well but I am not about to throw out the masks and social distancing.  I think when the dust is settled and studies done, the fact that Koreans were so quick to get on the mask train en masse will be held up as a contributing factor to the lower rates. 

Plus eating kimchi, no way you can get sick from Rona if you eat kimchi.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: thunderlips on March 05, 2021, 05:50:45 pm
In the states it seems people with underlying health issues are getting fast tracked for the vaccine. While Iím not opposed to that it does seem like some of those people are being rewarded in a way for being unhealthy, obese, smoking etc.  Just seems odd how we are not focusing on being healthier in general, but I digress.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: Orkblut on March 06, 2021, 04:36:45 pm
In the states it seems people with underlying health issues are getting fast tracked for the vaccine. While Iím not opposed to that it does seem like some of those people are being rewarded in a way for being unhealthy, obese, smoking etc.  Just seems odd how we are not focusing on being healthier in general, but I digress.

You're not wrong. Haven't heard of them prioritizing smokers, but prioritizing fat people does seem unfair. They've had the entire pandemic, knowing the virus is most dangerous for obese people, to do something about it, but I guess making an effort to be healthier would lead to feelings of having been fat shamed. Heaven forbid anyone's feelings are hurt.
Title: Re: Back to the grind kids!!!
Post by: hangook77 on March 06, 2021, 07:08:36 pm
I thought I only had partial schedule at first and some kids were still staying home.  But low and behold, by Wednesday, it was back to normal.  Full time 22 hours a week and full 40 minute classes.  After the past year, hard to get back into big time.  I'm just grateful that I got a lots of ppt games and activities done that I can re use.  So, there's that.