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Title: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 07, 2020, 05:50:45 pm
HI!
THIS IS KYNDO HI-JACKING A RANDOM COMMENT SO AS TO INTRODUCE THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD.
THE FOLLOWING WAS NOT WRITTEN, ENDORSED, OR POSSIBLY EVEN NOTICED BY DIPPEDINBLUSH.
I REPEAT: THIS IS NOT DIPPEDINBLUSH!


Assualt: How literal should we take that word? Would being flashed be considered assault?
Also, what's in a name? What first impressions do you get from posters' names?

**Edited so as to introduce topic of this split thread
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: stoat on May 07, 2020, 06:16:14 pm
God's honest truth I had no idea you were a female till people started wading in and getting all protective (i thought the guy was jerking off over your friend)  Maybe announce it in the first place in the future, if you want people to go a bit softer on you.
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: dippedinblush on May 07, 2020, 06:33:59 pm
Don't you think if I was a man I would most likely run out and try and find him? I wouldn't scream and head for the balcony? (I'm talking about most men that I know...most would run out and try and find the creep and apprehend him in some fashion).  My reaction was to scream and run for the balcony.  That didn't give you a clue that I was a girl???? Psshawww. 
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: stoat on May 07, 2020, 06:48:17 pm
Also..."to go a bit softer on me".....?  Please explain.

Most of the guys on here wouldn't have minded a bit of  disbelief/direct questioning/piss taking about their story.
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: dippedinblush on May 07, 2020, 06:54:07 pm
Most of the guys on here wouldn't have minded a bit of  disbelief/direct questioning/piss taking about their story.

I think I humored the populace by offering a sketch of the "crime scene".....and tried as best as I could to quell people's disbelief by answering questions candidly. But you kept going and going and still keep going and going. 

Also you are not a girl.  You don't get to dictate to me how all the other men would laugh and shout about this situation if you were men....are you OK>???  Or are you mentally deranged?  Can you not understand how this could scare you if you were a girl?
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: Mister Tim on May 07, 2020, 07:04:07 pm
To be fair, until it was clarified later, I also thought you were a guy after I read your story. You mentioned that you had a girlfriend over, so my initial thought was that you were the boyfriend in that situation. I do of course realize that women also sometimes refer to their female friends as their girlfriends, but I think some confusion isn't entirely unjustified. I also didn't feel the need to badger you about anything, but that's a separate issue...
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: theman3285 on May 07, 2020, 07:11:17 pm
God's honest truth I had no idea you were a female till people started wading in and getting all protective (i thought the guy was jerking off over your friend)  Maybe announce it in the first place in the future, if you want people to go a bit softer on you.
I don't know many guys who'd go with a name like dippedinblush. And for the record I had no problem believing this story.

This went from the best thread ever to just downright awkward, thanks to the door brigade.
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: dippedinblush on May 07, 2020, 07:28:03 pm
I don't know many guys who'd go with a name like dippedinblush. And for the record I had no problem believing this story.

This went from the best thread ever to just downright awkward, thanks to the door brigade.

What is door brigade?
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: L I on May 07, 2020, 07:48:46 pm
Are you serious LI/LIC?

Yeah, not him although you keep insisting. In fact, I'm the least likely poster to be him seeing as how I exposed him ... and you were there in that thread. This speaks to human nature - people can cling to their beliefs and be certain they are right, when in fact they are not. A mod could check our IP addresses. Nothing is the same about us except for similar letters.
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: thunderlips on May 07, 2020, 07:54:46 pm
Just to clarify:

as∑sault
/əˈs�

verb
past tense: assaulted; past participle: assaulted
make a physical attack on.
"he pleaded guilty to assaulting a police officer"
Similar:
hit
strike
physically attack
aim blows at
slap
smack
beat
thrash
spank
thump
thwack
punch
cuff
swat
knock
rap
pummel
pound
batter
pelt
welt
cane
lash
whip
club
cudgel
box someone's ears
clout
wallop
belt
whack
bash
clobber
bop
biff
sock
deck
slug
plug
knock about/around
lay into
do over
rough up
quilt
smite
rape
sexually assault
molest
interfere with
carry out a military attack or raid on (an enemy position).
"they left their strong position to assault the hill"

While the wanker certainly broke the law I donít believe your use of the word assault is fitting. Not trying to be a dick but I find it a bit disingenuous to keep repeating you were assaulted.
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: dippedinblush on May 07, 2020, 07:59:14 pm
Just to clarify:

as∑sault
/əˈs�

verb
past tense: assaulted; past participle: assaulted
make a physical attack on.
"he pleaded guilty to assaulting a police officer"
Similar:
hit
strike
physically attack
aim blows at
slap
smack
beat
thrash
spank
thump
thwack
punch
cuff
swat
knock
rap
pummel
pound
batter
pelt
welt
cane
lash
whip
club
cudgel
box someone's ears
clout
wallop
belt
whack
bash
clobber
bop
biff
sock
deck
slug
plug
knock about/around
lay into
do over
rough up
quilt
smite
rape
sexually assault
molest
interfere with
carry out a military attack or raid on (an enemy position).
"they left their strong position to assault the hill"

While the wanker certainly broke the law I don’t believe your use of the word assault is fitting. Not trying to be a dick but I find it a bit disingenuous to keep repeating you were assaulted.

I think someone breaking into your house and spanking his monkey is an assault.
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: dippedinblush on May 07, 2020, 08:12:13 pm
I can thoroughly disagree with Aristocrat on his views on homosexuality, yet I can agree with him on others.  Not everything is black and white.
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: CO2 on May 07, 2020, 08:22:49 pm
Okay can you guys stop questioning someone who was a victim in this situation? She already explained Ö

Also can I say that someone believing me and sticking up for me is not "white-knighting".....I'm so sick of men using this flimsy phrase to shame people that are going against what you are doing and saying, and sticking up for people that need it.  And I did need it at the time.  Thanks for being the only person to actually believe me and not automatically cast judgements.  It really was a bunch of men piling on and acting like fools, debating about doors and locks and keypads. Gross.

Honestly, some men in this forum are so strange...stoat, you are an absolute jerk.  You are the person I'd least like to share a beer with, you old goat..old goat stoat.  Do you perhaps own a purple tie?  No wonder there are like 2-3 women actively posting on this site. 

C02 I expected better from you.

Who is quoting what here?

Dipped, you're great, but if your formatting is a bit wonky..... Who am I replying to? You or Sammie?

JESUS CHRIST. NOW I'M DOING IT.

WHO F'ED UP?
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: dippedinblush on May 07, 2020, 08:22:56 pm
Just to clarify:

as∑sault
/əˈs�

verb
past tense: assaulted; past participle: assaulted
make a physical attack on.
"he pleaded guilty to assaulting a police officer"
Similar:
hit
strike
physically attack
aim blows at
slap
smack
beat
thrash
spank
thump
thwack
punch
cuff
swat
knock
rap
pummel
pound
batter
pelt
welt
cane
lash
whip
club
cudgel
box someone's ears
clout
wallop
belt
whack
bash
clobber
bop
biff
sock
deck
slug
plug
knock about/around
lay into
do over
rough up
quilt
smite
rape
sexually assault
molest
interfere with
carry out a military attack or raid on (an enemy position).
"they left their strong position to assault the hill"

While the wanker certainly broke the law I don’t believe your use of the word assault is fitting. Not trying to be a dick but I find it a bit disingenuous to keep repeating you were assaulted.
I never repeated i was assaulted.  I said I was assaulted 3 times in Korea and this was the first (that was in my first post).  I classify this as an assault...he entered my home without permission and assaulted me with his lewdness.  What the hell is going on with the men in this forum???
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: fka on May 07, 2020, 08:34:17 pm
Topic: What's your favorite ice cream flavor?

LIC: Oh man, you millennial snowflakes don't know anything about ice cream. Too busy hiding in your safe spaces to experience real flavors. Here in the tropics it's all mango, papaya, passion fruit... I feel sorry for you absolute losers, stuck in Korea with vanilla and chocolate as your only choices. Oh, am I allowed to say "chocolate" these days? You probably all think that's racist. That's what you're saying right now, in your safe spaces. I guess I probably triggered you. That's okay, I'll catch your tears in my Liberal Tears mug. Or I would if I were in Korea. I'm not, though. I'm in the tropics, having sex with beautiful women, making tons of cash and rockin' out to the greatest jams ever cut on wax. You wouldn't understand.

L I: Ice cream is a frozen dessert, consumed by many people.

Many of those people are obese. Obesity is a big problem.

Ice cream is high in fat and sugar content. Peter Thiel suggests that we replace fat and sugar with protein.

American ice cream is beloved by many of the world's ice cream enthusiasts. Elon Musk helpfully brought to the world's attention a recent study that ranked ice cream popularity by country of origin:

USA: 100
Rest of the World: 0

www.twitter.com/elonmusk/someshitabouticecream (http://www.twitter.com/elonmusk/someshitabouticecream)

Mark Zuckerberg projects that all Americans can enjoy unlimited free ice cream by 2021. It's a good time to be alive.

Please do not quote long segments of text. If you want to respond to the previous poster, there is no need to use the quote function.

Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: CO2 on May 07, 2020, 08:38:04 pm
I never repeated i was assaulted.  I said I was assaulted 3 times in Korea and this was the first (that was in my first post).  I classify this as an assault...he entered my home without permission and assaulted me with his lewdness.  What the hell is going on with the men in this forum???

Now, bear with me here. I'm going to explain this. I'm not picking sides, I'm not trying to poopoo on you. Just know that.

A lot of people, men and women, consider assault to be physical contact only. This isn't to defend the Ajeossi, this isn't to say that it wasn't an awful experience for you.

The problem here lies in someone being raped saying they were sexually assaulted and someone saying "a man sexually assaulted me in the park when he flashed me."

Again, no one deserves what happened to you, and I'd be the first to throw him on the ground whilst the police came.

When people use assault for things, such as you did, it upsets a lot of people. And I understand what they mean. Assault, by definition, is physical contact.

If someone says "Ugh, that LMFAO song raped my ears," A lot of people would bristle, and rightfully so. It's obviously embellishing for effect, and I know that's not what you're doing.

But it does rub people the wrong way.
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: CO2 on May 07, 2020, 08:39:52 pm
fka

Masterclass. Hahahaha
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: dippedinblush on May 07, 2020, 08:44:31 pm
Now, bear with me here. I'm going to explain this. I'm not picking sides, I'm not trying to poopoo on you. Just know that.

A lot of people, men and women, consider assault to be physical contact only. This isn't to defend the Ajeossi, this isn't to say that it wasn't an awful experience for you.

The problem here lies in someone being raped saying they were sexually assaulted and someone saying "a man sexually assaulted me in the park when he flashed me."

Again, no one deserves what happened to you, and I'd be the first to throw him on the ground whilst the police came.

When people use assault for things, such as you did, it upsets a lot of people. And I understand what they mean. Assault, by definition, is physical contact.

If someone says "Ugh, that LMFAO song raped my ears," A lot of people would bristle, and rightfully so. It's obviously embellishing for effect, and I know that's not what you're doing.

But it does rub people the wrong way.

I understand that, but you don't understand that he watched me and the other lady beside me in the other villa shower.  She identified him as well!  That is an assault.  He not only came into my home but watched me in my shower for I don't know how long!  To me that is an assault! 
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: dippedinblush on May 07, 2020, 08:45:31 pm
Now, bear with me here. I'm going to explain this. I'm not picking sides, I'm not trying to poopoo on you. Just know that.

A lot of people, men and women, consider assault to be physical contact only. This isn't to defend the Ajeossi, this isn't to say that it wasn't an awful experience for you.

The problem here lies in someone being raped saying they were sexually assaulted and someone saying "a man sexually assaulted me in the park when he flashed me."

Again, no one deserves what happened to you, and I'd be the first to throw him on the ground whilst the police came.

When people use assault for things, such as you did, it upsets a lot of people. And I understand what they mean. Assault, by definition, is physical contact.

If someone says "Ugh, that LMFAO song raped my ears," A lot of people would bristle, and rightfully so. It's obviously embellishing for effect, and I know that's not what you're doing.

But it does rub people the wrong way.

I understand that, but you don't understand that he watched me and the other lady beside me in the other villa shower.  She identified him as well!  That is an assault.  He not only came into my home but watched me in my shower for I don't know how long!  To me that is an assault! 


Why is this quoting this way
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: stoat on May 07, 2020, 08:46:40 pm
Now, bear with me here. I'm going to explain this. I'm not picking sides, I'm not trying to poopoo on you. Just know that.

A lot of people, men and women, consider assault to be physical contact only. This isn't to defend the Ajeossi, this isn't to say that it wasn't an awful experience for you.

The problem here lies in someone being raped saying they were sexually assaulted and someone saying "a man sexually assaulted me in the park when he flashed me."

Again, no one deserves what happened to you, and I'd be the first to throw him on the ground whilst the police came.

When people use assault for things, such as you did, it upsets a lot of people. And I understand what they mean. Assault, by definition, is physical contact.

If someone says "Ugh, that LMFAO song raped my ears," A lot of people would bristle, and rightfully so. It's obviously embellishing for effect, and I know that's not what you're doing.

But it does rub people the wrong way.

If a woman feels she was assaulted, she was assaulted, and what gives you the right, as a white male, to say otherwise?
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: dippedinblush on May 07, 2020, 08:49:29 pm
Anyways.  I call this an assault not only because he came in and jacked off in my room, but because he was watching us (the lady in the villa next to mine and I shower).  We both lived on the first floor and he would watch us shower through our bathroom windows.  To me that is an assault.

This is not an assault to you....????The police confirmed her testimony (she saw a man in a suit peeping at her through her windows as well) and saw him watching her while she was showering...and mine as well.  I had told you guys that he was watching us shower as well!

We had to go into the police station 3 times as well as my school's principal.  It was a huge thing !  They made the owner of the villa install bars.  You guys are too much.  Honestly the worst.

Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: dippedinblush on May 07, 2020, 09:09:11 pm
If a woman feels she was assaulted, she was assaulted, and what gives you the right, as a white male, to say otherwise?

Oh gosh, you again, you old goat!
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: CO2 on May 07, 2020, 09:29:25 pm
If a woman feels she was assaulted, she was assaulted, and what gives you the right, as a white male, to say otherwise?

This is me,replying to Stoat's comment. I have waited for his comment to appear, I am putting the cursor DIRECTLY BELOW EVERYTHING that he wrote.

UNDER the Bracket quote Bracket
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 07, 2020, 11:51:28 pm
Wow I got to this late and uhm, where to start? Well, we've had a bunch of diagrams posted on waygook.org of late and all I can say is that kyndo certainly takes the prize for penmanship and craft (sorry CO2 and dippedinblush). I feel at this point almost like the three of you guys could form some kind of cartoon junior crimestoppers club out of the treehouse and go around solving the odd crimes of Korea.

As for assault and things, while it may or may not be assault, if it is something that in turn I'd assault someone over if they did it to one of my friends/family, well then I guess that's close enough.

I don't know many guys who'd go with a name like dippedinblush.
The fact that some people didn't notice that or attach any significance to it, really makes you wonder about their ability to analyze and interpret various things, both personally and in the news. Now, one should be careful not to assume things, because there are always exceptions, but that should at least have been at least something to note. Of course, one could be male (or female) and a blush wine enthusiast. On the other hand dippedinbase, while a somewhat unusual cosmetic-oriented female-leaning name (not sure anyone would make base a point of identity), would likely be a male right-wing user in 2020. Either that or basedcowboy decided to roll out a new identity and come in strong.
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: stoat on May 08, 2020, 06:27:02 am
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the fact that some people didn't notice that or attach any significance to it, really makes you wonder about their ability to analyze and interpret various things, both personally and in the news.

The fact that people seem to be claiming you can get some kind of definitive truth from the names people call themselves on an anonymous internet forum, makes you wonder about their ability to understand human psychology.  Mr De Martino - obviously an italian guy, right?
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: theman3285 on May 08, 2020, 07:38:34 am
The fact that people seem to be claiming you can get some kind of definitive truth from the names people call themselves on an anonymous internet forum, makes you wonder about their ability to understand human psychology.  Mr De Martino - obviously an italian guy, right?
Ethnicity is a lot less evident than gender, it seems. Mr.DeMartino, theman3285, etc.

Though to be fair, I thought Ronnie Omelettes was a bloke for the longest time. Even when she declared ownership of a 1000cc Kia Morning  :laugh:
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: Colburnnn on May 08, 2020, 07:50:15 am
I don't know many guys who'd go with a name like dippedinblush. And for the record I had no problem believing this story.

This went from the best thread ever to just downright awkward, thanks to the door brigade.

Hey, I'm just saying, if you lock your door then sex offenders can't get in and knock one out behind your fridge.

There is a dedicated function for this on most electronic keypads these days. And again, I said this before it was explained that DIB used a lock and key door. I also spoke with DIB about locking the door and her response was about this being an educating moment of her life as she grew up leaving doors open.

Initially I questioned the story as it seemed incredibly 'out there' but this is Korea so anything goes, right? If DIB says it happened, even if dubious, should be given the benefit of doubt.

As for the 'assault' thing. Yeah, it's not assault, it's a sex offence. Lewd behaviour, yeah. Trespassing, yeah. Assault, sorry no. As much as you want it to be redefined. Words have meanings. In the criminal sphere, assault (I think battery in the US? UK doesn't really use that term) involves physical contact. To you, it feels like an assault, and that is totally fine, it's your experience. However when you start involving other people, especially the cops. The correct terms need to be used for an accurate report of the event.

I refute the door brigade claim.
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: 745sticky on May 08, 2020, 08:07:42 am
I could understand how this particular story could be amusing, but I think it's kinda shitty to laugh at someone being assaulted.  Its actually a really scary and humiliating thing to have happen to you.
Assaulted?

I think someone breaking into your house and spanking his monkey is an assault.
I mean, you can think that, but in both the regular and legal sense of the word you're wrong.

If a woman feels she was assaulted, she was assaulted, and what gives you the right, as a white male, to say otherwise?
That's... that's just not how reality works, bud. It'd be completely understandable if she said that she felt assaulted, I'd probably feel assaulted in that situation too. But she was not literally assaulted.

Anyways.  I call this an assault not only because he came in and jacked off in my room, but because he was watching us (the lady in the villa next to mine and I shower).  We both lived on the first floor and he would watch us shower through our bathroom windows.  To me that is an assault.

This is not an assault to you....????The police confirmed her testimony (she saw a man in a suit peeping at her through her windows as well) and saw him watching her while she was showering...and mine as well.  I had told you guys that he was watching us shower as well!

We had to go into the police station 3 times as well as my school's principal.  It was a huge thing !  They made the owner of the villa install bars.  You guys are too much.  Honestly the worst.
That's voyeurism (and, if he's done it multiple times, stalking). I guess you could it's an assault on your privacy.

tl;dr definitions matter. Just say that you felt assaulted, or it was an assault on your privacy/dignity/whatever, but don't try to pretend a word means something it doesn't.
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: CO2 on May 08, 2020, 08:12:31 am
That's... that's just not how reality works, bud. It'd be completely understandable if she said that she felt assaulted, I'd probably feel assaulted in that situation too. But she was not literally assaulted.
Stoat was taking the piss out of "off-the-deep-end leftists," btw.
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: CypherSoul on May 08, 2020, 08:14:12 am
Anyways.  I call this an assault not only because he came in and jacked off in my room, but because he was watching us (the lady in the villa next to mine and I shower).  We both lived on the first floor and he would watch us shower through our bathroom windows.  To me that is an assault.

This is not an assault to you....????The police confirmed her testimony (she saw a man in a suit peeping at her through her windows as well) and saw him watching her while she was showering...and mine as well.  I had told you guys that he was watching us shower as well!

If dippedinblush feels they were assaulted, then it was an assault! Can people please stop trying to invalidate other people's feelings? It happened to dippedinblush, they know how they feel about it! End of!
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: tylerthegloob on May 08, 2020, 08:19:25 am
oh colburnn you were so close. assault doesn't require contact (in the US), whereas battery does. so yes, words have meaning. it turns out they're context dependent though  :cry:
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: 745sticky on May 08, 2020, 08:20:24 am
Stoat was taking the piss out of "off-the-deep-end leftists," btw.

My apologies to Stoat then - I'm a bit new here, so it's hard to tell when people are being serious or not without a /s thrown in somewhere!
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: thunderlips on May 08, 2020, 08:22:50 am
oh colburnn you were so close. assault doesn't require contact (in the US), whereas battery does. so yes, words have meaning. it turns out they're context dependent though  :cry:

You were nearly there too.  "The basic principle behind all degrees of assault is that you intended to make someone fear that you will harm or injure them. The act of causing someone to fear bodily harm is enough to support a fifth-degree assault charge." 
Title: Re: Re: Story Time - Craziest Event You've Witnessed Here
Post by: Colburnnn on May 08, 2020, 08:26:38 am
oh colburnn you were so close. assault doesn't require contact (in the US), whereas battery does. so yes, words have meaning. it turns out they're context dependent though  :cry:

I'm not American (Thank God) so not aware of the language you use in this area. I said that in my post. Thanks for the education Xi.

The fact remains you cannot call something something just because it's what you feel it to be. (Edit: You can but that's not you living in reality) Things have an actual definition, (maybe not the locked, doubled locked, lockeded, lockedereddd - Kyndo)  especially when it comes to criminal procedure.
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: Kyndo on May 08, 2020, 08:52:59 am
Ethnicity is a lot less evident than gender, it seems. Mr.DeMartino, theman3285, etc.

Though to be fair, I thought Ronnie Omelettes was a bloke for the longest time. Even when she declared ownership of a 1000cc Kia Morning  :laugh:
Oh.

I may have to revise my mental image of Ronnie Omelette: she may not be sitting in an empty classroom in a tweed jacket, smoking a pipe, and listening to speed metal after all.  :sad:
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: CO2 on May 08, 2020, 08:56:27 am
The United States Department of Justice defines sexual assault as "any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient. Falling under the definition of sexual assault are sexual activities as forced sexual intercourse, forcible sodomy, child molestation, incest, fondling, and attempted rape."

This is the word that is sticky. Seems like a pretty wide swath. Like, is "Hey, baby nice ass" *blows kiss* from a passing stranger sexual assault?

PERSONALLY, I don't think so. I don't want to wade into the case of DIB, she can define it how she likes, but there has to be a gradation for this. At least by degrees. We have degrees for murder and "regular" assault.

I always think of two examples with this.

Person A: I was sexually assaulted behind a dumpster by two men after I left a house party. (Rape.)

Person B: I was sexually assaulted, too.  A man said I had nice **** at a sports bar.

Like, clearly one is worse than the other.

We need gradations so judges have clear guidelines on punishments. A Fifth degree charge (rape) would have punishments of X to Y years, while a first degree charge (grabbing someone's ass at a bar) would carry........... whatever, that can be discussed, but CLEARLY, one is worse than the other, there's absolutely no discussing that.

Both guys are creeps, both deserve punishment. But I'm a firm believer in minimum sentencing and legal precedents.

EDIT: First degree is worse, fifth is less severe. Flip my examples.
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: thunderlips on May 08, 2020, 08:56:45 am
CO2 found a pretty good definition. I may be wrong on this one.

The United States Department of Justice defines sexual assault as "any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient. Falling under the definition of sexual assault are sexual activities as forced sexual intercourse, forcible sodomy, child molestation, incest, fondling, and attempted rape."

This is the word that is sticky. Seems like a pretty wide swath. Like, is "Hey, baby nice ass" *blows kiss* from a passing stranger sexual assault?

PERSONALLY, I don't think so. I don't want to wade into the case of DIB, she can define it how she likes, but there has to be a gradation for this. At least by degrees. We have degrees for murder and "regular" assault.

I always think of two examples with this.

Person A: I was sexually assaulted behind a dumpster by two men after I left a house party. (Rape.)

Person B: I was sexually assaulted, too.  A man said I had nice **** at a sports bar.

Like, clearly one is worse than the other.

We need gradations so judges have clear guidelines on punishments. A Fifth degree charge (rape) would have punishments of X to Y years, while a first degree charge (grabbing someone's ass at a bar) would carry........... whatever, that can be discussed, but CLEARLY, one is worse than the other, there's absolutely no discussing that.

Both guys are creeps, both deserve punishment. But I'm a firm believer in minimum sentencing and legal precedents.


Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: Mister Tim on May 08, 2020, 09:10:32 am

 Like, is "Hey, baby nice ass" *blows kiss* from a passing stranger sexual assault?


Just popping in to say that the missing comma there makes it sound like you're saying "hey" to someone named Baby Nice Ass, and that makes me giggle.
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: CO2 on May 08, 2020, 09:13:09 am
Just popping in to say that the missing comma there makes it sound like you're saying "hey" to someone named Baby Nice Ass, and that makes me giggle.

That was my name in college. hahaha but, yeah, it should read;

Hey, baby. Nice ass.
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: tylerthegloob on May 08, 2020, 09:18:44 am
You were nearly there too.  "The basic principle behind all degrees of assault is that you intended to make someone fear that you will harm or injure them. The act of causing someone to fear bodily harm is enough to support a fifth-degree assault charge." 

uhhhhh i was there. 100% my point was that it doesn't require contact. idk where you think you got me

I'm not American (Thank God) so not aware of the language you use in this area.

yes you've made it clear that you're not aware. i guess you also think the american legal definition is irrelevant here

and @CO2 are you suggesting that rapists and people who commit sexual harassment in the workplace are being treated the same? i assume that's not what you're saying but that's what it seems like... obviously the sentencing/punishment is different depending on the crime. and i don't think anyone would disagree that one of those is clearly worse than the other
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: stoat on May 08, 2020, 09:21:34 am
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Stoat was taking the piss out of "off-the-deep-end leftists," btw.

My apologies to Stoat then - I'm a bit new here, so it's hard to tell when people are being serious or not without a /s thrown in somewhere!

It's funny, every time you try to satarise the left these days, a while later someone comes along and says the same thing in all seriousness.  :smiley:

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If dippedinblush feels they were assaulted, then it was an assault! Can people please stop trying to invalidate other people's feelings? It happened to dippedinblush, they know how they feel about it! End of!



I remember Andrew Doyle (comedian) saying something similar happened to him when he acccused Mary Poppins of black face in the chimney sweep scene, and a few months later someone on the Guardian said the same thing.
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: CO2 on May 08, 2020, 09:28:22 am
and @CO2 are you suggesting that rapists and people who commit sexual harassment in the workplace are being treated the same? i assume that's not what you're saying but that's what it seems like... obviously the sentencing/punishment is different depending on the crime. and i don't think anyone would disagree that one of those is clearly worse than the other
I understand what you're saying. I just don't like wide events of varying severity and nature using pretty serious terms for the whole basket. Assault means battery to me.

These things don't change the events of what actually happened, the victims were all wronged in some way. For them the definitions don't matter, and I totally respect that. A violation of their autonomy was done, and my heart goes out to them. It's just that using assault for a whole litany of things doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

I mean, clearly, if someone came up to me crying and said they were sexually assaulted, I'm not going to get them to get a dictionary and prove it to me. That's not the time. But in discussions afterwards, I think we can ask questions and discuss these definitions, without being accusatory or demeaning victims.



Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: tylerthegloob on May 08, 2020, 09:35:27 am
in this thread: lots of non-americans getting super tilted over the american legal definition of assault

but yeah i get what you're saying too CO2. i think you'd be similarly confused if someone came up to you saying "i was just assaulted!" but they hadn't actually been hit. and that's 100% fair. but (like you said) what we shouldn't do is start saying "omg no you weren't. REEEE look at a dictionary, you didn't even get hit. REEEEEEEEE words have meaning!! you can't just..[and so on]"
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: Colburnnn on May 08, 2020, 09:37:13 am
No, I don't. But I do think you are a ****. Thanks Xi.

The American definition is important to DIB (although I though she said she was Canadian somewhere) But to others (AKA reality) the ACTUAL definition is what is important. Especially within criminal procedure.

Like CO2 Said. "HELP I was assaulted!!!'' ''Oh no! Are you OK? What happened!?'' ''Someone said I had a nice arse'' ''Oh... well. That's not assault...'' ''Huh? But I feel assaulted!!'' ''Yeah... but what you FEEL isn't important IRL''

"Your honour, I wish to press assault charges against this man for saying I had a nice arse'' ''Erm...OK, but that's not a crime, it's not assualt'' ''Yes, but your honour it felt like assault to me'' ''Erm...OK yeah, I'm sorry you feel this way, but it's not a crime, it's not assault.'' ''WHAT!? But your honour, I really really really really feel assaulted." "Sure! I get you, I feel you. It's not assault though"

Perhaps a sh*tty thing to do (particularly if you are rad-fem) and you could argue this person was 'emotionally assaulted' you seem like a **** who would do that, but it's not 'assault'.

Thanks again, Xi.
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: Chinguetti on May 08, 2020, 09:39:46 am
This is a test. Posted in this thread a few minutes ago but can't see it.

EDIT: Okay, not a problem with my posting rights in this thread, I just have a phantom post that isn't showing up for some reason, lol.
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: Ronnie Omelettes on May 08, 2020, 09:40:01 am
'Two peanuts were walking down the street.  One was a salted'

eh!

* tumbleweed*

eh!

* crickets *

tough crowd!
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: Colburnnn on May 08, 2020, 09:40:06 am
Didn't we have this a while back with that kid who dongchimmed a teacher?
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: D.L.Orean on May 08, 2020, 09:43:08 am
No, I don't. But I do think you are a ****. Thanks Xi.

The American definition is important to DIB (although I though she said she was Canadian somewhere) But to others (AKA reality) the ACTUAL definition is what is important. Especially within criminal procedure.

Like CO2 Said. "HELP I was assaulted!!!'' ''Oh no! Are you OK? What happened!?'' ''Someone said I had a nice arse'' ''Oh... well. That's not assault...'' ''Huh? But I feel assaulted!!'' ''Yeah... but what you FEEL isn't important IRL''

"Your honour, I wish to press assault charges against this man for saying I had a nice arse'' ''Erm...OK, but that's not a crime, it's not assualt'' ''Yes, but your honour it felt like assault to me'' ''Erm...OK yeah, I'm sorry you feel this way, but it's not a crime, it's not assault.'' ''WHAT!? But your honour, I really really really really feel assaulted." "Sure! I get you, I feel you. It's not assault though"

Perhaps a sh*tty thing to do (particularly if you are rad-fem) and you could argue this person was 'emotionally assaulted' you seem like a **** who would do that, but it's not 'assault'.

Thanks again, Xi.

In what world are people lodging criminal complaints directly to judges?

It seems like you're just creating a situation to give yourself the opportunity to get angry about it. Damn those feminists ruining everything.
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: CO2 on May 08, 2020, 09:49:34 am
'Two peanuts were walking down the street.  One was a salted'

eh!

* tumbleweed*

eh!

* crickets *

tough crowd!

Omelettes has finally cracked. Her brain is scrambled, but  look at the sunny-side, your troubles are over, easy.

Maybe you can poach some IQ from Mr DeM Big Brain Man.

Or the Hard Boiled LIC.

With a side of AvecPommeFrites.

Where's Eggieguffer?
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: thunderlips on May 08, 2020, 09:50:17 am
'Two peanuts were walking down the street.  One was a salted'

eh!

* tumbleweed*

eh!

* crickets *

tough crowd!


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Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: Colburnnn on May 08, 2020, 09:51:39 am
In what world are people lodging criminal complaints directly to judges?

It seems like you're just creating a situation to give yourself the opportunity to get angry about it. Damn those feminists ruining everything.

Let's take a step back. DIB told story about some bloke knocking one out in her room.

- Debate regarding authenticity of story
- CO2's epic sketch
- Rando white knight defence
- Debate over 'assualt' vocabulary.
- Thread split
- Post about use of words in criminal procedure

In no world are people lodging criminal complaints to judges. You ****.
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: CO2 on May 08, 2020, 09:51:46 am

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"Of All The GIF Joints In All The Towns In All The World, He Walks Into Waygook."
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: D.L.Orean on May 08, 2020, 10:05:42 am
Let's take a step back. DIB told story about some bloke knocking one out in her room.

- Debate regarding authenticity of story
- CO2's epic sketch
- Rando white knight defence
- Debate over 'assualt' vocabulary.
- Thread split
- Post about use of words in criminal procedure

In no world are people lodging criminal complaints to judges. You ****.

Just in this imaginary scenario in your head. Unless you're going around calling people "your honour" on a regular basis. Then my mistake

"Your honour, I wish to press assault charges against this man for saying I had a nice arse'' ''Erm...OK, but that's not a crime, it's not assualt'' ''Yes, but your honour it felt like assault to me'' ''Erm...OK yeah, I'm sorry you feel this way, but it's not a crime, it's not assault.'' ''WHAT!? But your honour, I really really really really feel assaulted." "Sure! I get you, I feel you. It's not assault though"
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: Colburnnn on May 08, 2020, 10:10:32 am
Just in this imaginary scenario in your head. Unless you're going around calling people "your honour" on a regular basis. Then my mistake

"Your honour, I wish to press assault charges against this man for saying I had a nice arse'' ''Erm...OK, but that's not a crime, it's not assualt'' ''Yes, but your honour it felt like assault to me'' ''Erm...OK yeah, I'm sorry you feel this way, but it's not a crime, it's not assault.'' ''WHAT!? But your honour, I really really really really feel assaulted." "Sure! I get you, I feel you. It's not assault though"


Errrrrrrrrrrm... K?

Annnnyyyway... I do have a nice arse! Thank you! A little hairy by my own admission and I'm a late bloomer so didn't have a name like CO2 at University, but honestly thank you for noticing.

Maaan that's what we need these days. More compliments.
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 08, 2020, 12:25:45 pm
The fact that people seem to be claiming you can get some kind of definitive truth from the names people call themselves on an anonymous internet forum, makes you wonder about their ability to understand human psychology.  Mr De Martino - obviously an italian guy, right?
As I said, it is NOT definitive, but it is an indicator that one can note. That and the writing style (less definitive) and most importantly, the content of their posts.
Also, Mr.DeMartino is obviously a fan of a TV show, not someone Italian, unless you think someone calling themselves Worf is actually Klingon. But it IS highly probable that they are male.
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: stoat on May 08, 2020, 12:30:25 pm
It'd be much better if we were all unaware of gender, age race and anything else on here so we could respond to what people say alone. I don't consciously shut out these things when responding to people but I guess I don't tend to notice them as much as others either.
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: tylerthegloob on May 08, 2020, 02:25:34 pm
In no world are people lodging criminal complaints to judges. You ****.

[/quote]
No, I don't. But I do think you are a ****.

really wondering about the meaning of colburnn's favorite word "****"

and, MY DUDE... for the last time: the american LEGAL definition of assault says nothing about actual contact. it only requires a reasonable FEAR (wow! it's fear, a feeling!) of bodily injury
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: tylerthegloob on May 08, 2020, 03:02:41 pm
 :laugh: you too, bud!
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: Colburnnn on May 08, 2020, 03:05:58 pm
Stop deleting things, mods/kyndo.

Knocking one out behind a fridge is not assault.

Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: 745sticky on May 08, 2020, 03:18:17 pm

and, MY DUDE... for the last time: the american LEGAL definition of assault says nothing about actual contact. it only requires a reasonable FEAR (wow! it's fear, a feeling!) of bodily injury

Ah yes of course my bad I forgot that America is the only English-speaking country that exists and their definition is most certainly the original definition and the only one that matters
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: oglop on May 08, 2020, 03:37:19 pm
as a faithful and god-fearing christian, i make sure to take all of my learnings from the holy book known as the bible. this is one of my favourites.

ďAnd if she be not obedient and healpeful unto him, endevoureth to beat the fear of God into her head, that thereby she may be compelled to learn her duty and do it.Ē

Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: oglop on May 08, 2020, 03:38:10 pm

Knocking one out behind a fridge is not assault.


this is a brand new sentence
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 08, 2020, 04:17:37 pm
It'd be much better if we were all unaware of gender, age race and anything else on here so we could respond to what people say alone. I don't consciously shut out these things when responding to people but I guess I don't tend to notice them as much as others either.
The joys of Brits and Americans each telling each other how things are in their respective countrues with no way to verify. :undecided:
Title: Re: The meanings behind a name / word
Post by: Lazio on May 08, 2020, 10:34:34 pm
The police confirmed her testimony (she saw a man in a suit peeping at her through her windows as well) and saw him watching her while she was showering...and mine as well.  I had told you guys that he was watching us shower as well!

I just can't seem to get past some technical details. I've never seen a bathroom window in Korea that had clear glass. It's always the frosted kind which doesn't allow anyone to see inside. So how was this perv. able to see you and your neighbor? Didn't close the window? But why? Or did you have Korea's only clear glass bathroom window? But even then, you could've just put a blurry kind of sticker on the inside of the window, ending up with something that works like frosted glass: Allows light in but can't see through it. I'm not questioning the authenticity of the story or anything like that but I can't wrap my head around this.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 08, 2020, 11:09:02 pm
I can understand your confusion.  I dont know what company installed the windows but one side of the windows was frosted and the other was clear.  I have no idea why. 
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CO2 on May 08, 2020, 11:31:25 pm
I dont know what company installed the windows but one side of the windows was frosted and the other was clear.   

Do you mean like one way glass???  :huh:

Also, while I'm at it. Sorry that this happened. I got called out a bit in the comments........ Yesterday? Or the day before. Quarantine, all gets mixed a bit.

But, truthfully, no one deserves this. UGH. Some guy creeping around. Can't imagine.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: MayorHaggar on May 09, 2020, 12:03:04 pm
in this thread: lots of non-americans getting super tilted over the american legal definition of assault


More like a bunch of bored alt-right men arguing over who is best at explaining things to women. As usual the women and non-alt-rightists throw their hands up in disgust and disappear.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 09, 2020, 03:09:08 pm
More like a bunch of bored alt-right men arguing over who is best at explaining things to women. As usual the women and non-alt-rightists throw their hands up in disgust and disappear.
While I agree with your point, like dude, you're not exactly at the top of anyone's list for tolerance, sensitivity, listening, and consideration either.

"You know who really shows concern and care for other people on this forum? MayorHaggar" said literally no one ever.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CO2 on May 09, 2020, 03:48:43 pm
While I agree with your point, like dude, you're not exactly at the top of anyone's list for tolerance, sensitivity, listening, and consideration either.

"You know who really shows concern and care for other people on this forum? MayorHaggar" said literally no one ever.

Hahaha, too true.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: MayorHaggar on May 09, 2020, 08:30:41 pm
While I agree with your point, like dude, you're not exactly at the top of anyone's list for tolerance, sensitivity, listening, and consideration either.

"You know who really shows concern and care for other people on this forum? MayorHaggar" said literally no one ever.

Oh no the site's biggest troll said something mean about me. Go back to drinking bleach.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 10, 2020, 10:29:46 am
Oh no the site's biggest troll said something mean about me. Go back to drinking bleach.
Thank you for proving my point. Also, nice self-awareness.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 10, 2020, 05:10:45 pm
Do you mean like one way glass???  :huh:

Also, while I'm at it. Sorry that this happened. I got called out a bit in the comments........ Yesterday? Or the day before. Quarantine, all gets mixed a bit.

But, truthfully, no one deserves this. UGH. Some guy creeping around. Can't imagine.

Not a two-way mirror!  Just one side of the sliding window was frosted and one wasn't.  I appreciate the fact that you expressed some compassion for I went through at the time.  I completely regret posting this story on this site. 

As for the assault term...I can understand it if some people think that assault only means physical violence in some form, but...the fact that he broke into my home, and when I did notice him...he showed no sign of alarm or shame. He did not move...he kept doing his business.  I totally thought he was going to come after my friend and I which is why we moved from the room to that balcony and started shouting for help.  I thank God that I was not alone at the time!

That situation, coupled by the fact that he was watching/stalking me as I showered (and possibly any other time from other windows in my room) makes me  consider this an assault in some form.  I had legit anxiety issues after this, and was terrified in my own home all the time.

I don't understand why the first reaction to my story was to negate and mock it.  The levels of bitterness coming from some of the males on this site leaves me a little crestfallen.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 10, 2020, 09:09:32 pm
Also FTR I do not endorse this thread AT ALL...even though it was created with my username...without my knowledge or permission.

I never even wrote the first post, or the title (which changed a couple of times)...I don't know who wrote that in my name.  I wouldn't write that.  I didn't write that.

Do mods have the authority to write things they want to using other people's accounts?  Appears so.  I think that is a serious breach.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: thunderlips on May 10, 2020, 09:37:03 pm
Also FTR I do not endorse this thread AT ALL...even though it was created with my username...without my knowledge or permission.

I never even wrote the first post, or the title (which changed a couple of times)...I don't know who wrote that in my name.  I wouldn't write that.  I didn't write that.

Do mods have the authority to write things they want to using other people's accounts?  Appears so.  I think that is a serious breach.


Iíll go on record to apologize to dippedinblush. I think what happened to her would  be considered assault in most of our home countries. Just looking at the definition of assault wasnít accurate.

Again terrible you had to go through that.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 10, 2020, 11:14:02 pm
Iíll go on record to apologize to dippedinblush. I think what happened to her would  be considered assault in most of our home countries. Just looking at the definition of assault wasnít accurate.

Again terrible you had to go through that.

It's all good, brother!  And thanks.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Colburnnn on May 11, 2020, 07:26:05 am
I will also go on record to state what a horrible experience that must have been for DIB. No one deserves that, locked door or no locked door. Originally, I will admit, I was sceptical just due to the bizarre nature of the story. But who am I to say that didn't happen.

I will also go on record to state that quote. ''The levels of bitterness coming from some of the males on this site leaves me a little crestfallen'' is completely unnecessary.

I will also go on record to state anyone using the buzzword 'alt-right' in 2020 should be disregarded instantly along with all future contributions they may provide.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Kyndo on May 11, 2020, 08:14:20 am
Also FTR I do not endorse this thread AT ALL...even though it was created with my username...without my knowledge or permission.
I never even wrote the first post, or the title (which changed a couple of times)...I don't know who wrote that in my name.  I wouldn't write that.  I didn't write that.
Do mods have the authority to write things they want to using other people's accounts?  Appears so.  I think that is a serious breach.

I'll join MayorHaggar in saying that you guys are being bit harsh on somebody who went out of her way to share a story. Apologies, Dippedinblush.

I also want to say that I was the one who started this thread.
A previous thread was being side-tracked, and rather than delete several pages on the off-topic conversation (which tends to make people upset), I decided to split the thread and give the new topic its own page.
Unfortunately, the mechanics of splitting threads means that the first post to be moved over becomes the OP, which can't be deleted or replaced.
 I erased the original commen (which wasn't relevant to the newly created topic at hand), and in its place put in a few sentences that defined the topic of the new thread. I pointed this out at the bottom of the OP comment, but I guess it wasn't entirely clear enough. Again, sorry Dippedinblush if you felt I was putting words in your mouth. That wasn't my intention.

To clarify, just as you have the ability to edit your own posts, mods have the ability to change a post that isn't their own (to, for example, delete insults etc from an otherwise decent comment). Insofar as I've discovered, we don't have the ability to mess with your accounts. Also, if a mod changes a post, there will be a record of it in the edit log at the very bottom of the post.

Also, the title of this thread *has* been changed several times, but I had nothing to do with it.
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Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Ronnie Omelettes on May 11, 2020, 08:18:18 am
Even when she declared ownership of a 1000cc Kia Morning  :laugh:

 :laugh:

No wait

 :lipsrsealed:

Something bad was said.

 >:(

Dissing my wheels

 :shocked:

Right, you!  Tomorrow, City Hall, 2pm.  A traffic light race from The Plaza Hotel to Gyeongbuk Palace.  The first to turn the nose of King Sejong wins.  Me and my sissy Morning and you and your 1.8T  :laugh:  What does the 'T' stand for terrible.  :P

Then a Dalgona coffee after with the requisite social distancing. 

Can't say simpler than that...
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CypherSoul on May 11, 2020, 09:17:57 am
I don't understand why the first reaction to my story was to negate and mock it.  The levels of bitterness coming from some of the males on this site leaves me a little crestfallen.

I am not even surprised by the mansplaining at this point!  :blank:

I had a weird phone incident recently (thought the guy was recording me apparently he wasn't, my paranoid ass is still 50/50 on this) but it did cause me quite a lot of anxiety so I can imagine it was way worse for you to have someone come into your home! Stay strong!
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 11, 2020, 12:33:14 pm
I'm disappointed we didn't get to see Kyndo's take on the diagram. I feel like he would have added Roman columns, vases, and "Hanging Portrait of Erasmus of Rotterdam" into it.

Anyways, as far as assault, when you combine trespass+sexual misconduct, yeah that's assault (or near enough to it) and there really shouldn't be any argument over it. Heck, in some states that's enough to justify putting six rounds into their torso and be done with the paperwork in a couple of hours.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: stoat on May 12, 2020, 08:25:19 am
From Orwell's Animal Farm

Quote
It was also found that the stupider animals, such as the sheep, hens, and ducks, were unable to learn the Seven Commandments by heart. After much thought Snowball declared that the Seven Commandments could in effect be reduced to a single maxim, namely: "Four legs good, two legs bad."

They took a liking to it and would spend long periods bleating it repeatedly.

When they had once got it by heart, the sheep developed a great liking for this maxim, and often as they lay in the field they would all start bleating "Four legs good, two legs bad! Four legs good, two legs bad!" and keep it up for hours on end, never growing tired of it.

Napoleon saw this as an advantage and used their incessant bleating at crucial points during Snowball's speeches. They would suddenly burst out repeating the maxim loudly when Napoleon realized Snowball was getting the upper hand.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: OnNut81 on May 12, 2020, 08:48:27 am


I don't understand why the first reaction to my story was to negate and mock it.  The levels of bitterness coming from some of the males on this site leaves me a little crestfallen.

I can only speak for why I questioned it, and I did.  It was not mocking or negating it, as I think was the case with most who questioned it.  It was because the lack of details combined with the events made it very hard to picture how it happened.  There was some skepticism, but I don't think there was much outright disbelief.  To your credit, instead of bashing every poster who questioned your account you patiently explained the odd layout of your home and how the events unfolded and brought people around.  I hope you moved, or were moved, right away from a place that had a vantage point into your washroom.    And for those who claim your immediate reaction should always be instant belief, I disagree.  There is nothing wrong with questioning something you're unsure of.  As long as it isn't accompanied by insults or accusations. 

You also said: "Do mods have the authority to write things they want to using other people's accounts?  Appears so.  I think that is a serious breach. " 

I think this needs to be revisited as I've mentioned it before, and the minute I read your comment one name jumped to mind.  Kyndo, stop overreaching and changing people's posts.  It creates an inaccurate record of something they did not write or intend.  Either delete it or comment on it, but don't edit other people's posts. 
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: L I on May 12, 2020, 08:54:29 am
In my opinion deleting comments and splitting threads is overreaching as well. Thereís quite a lot gone that dippedinblush, I, and others wrote.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Colburnnn on May 12, 2020, 09:12:38 am
To your credit, instead of bashing every poster who questioned your account you patiently explained the odd layout of your home and how the events unfolded and brought people around.

This.

I was really REALLY impressed with how DIB explained the situation and answered the questions people had about the event. A great example of how to win people around (no that she had to do any 'winning' by the way) with words, not insults.

Then it was ruined by the male 'bitterness' comment.  Completely out of place, woke and just not needed. Too easy to wheel out the ye olde 'tHaTs rACiSt/sExISt' trope to attempt to win the discussion or argument. It's an instant L.

Also, yes, stop deleting things.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: L I on May 12, 2020, 09:27:53 am
Dippedinblush insulted posters who were doubting the story a lot - but those comments were deleted by Kyndo. Then she spoke on toxic masculinity. Then said she would cut me up and eat me like samgyeopsal. After the censoring she came across as civil and polite. So maybe no gold star is warranted.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Colburnnn on May 12, 2020, 09:29:11 am
Dippedinblush insulted posters who were doubting the story a lot - but those comments were deleted by Kyndo. Then she spoke on toxic masculinity. Then said she would cut me up and eat me like samgyeopsal. After the censoring she came across as civil and polite. So maybe no gold star is warranted.

Well... I wasn't aware of these posts...

Kyndo?
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: stoat on May 12, 2020, 09:35:48 am
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I can only speak for why I questioned it, and I did.  It was not mocking or negating it, as I think was the case with most who questioned it.

If someone sets up a thread on an anonymous internet forum for people to tell the craziest story that's happened to them in Korea, surely the tone is more likely to resemble a lively conversation down the pub, rather than a safe space for people to garner sympathetic comments about their upsetting personal experiences.  If you're looking for the latter and it seems like you're not going to get it, my advice would be to retire from the thread immediately, before you get triggered, and tell your story elsewhere.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Kyndo on May 12, 2020, 12:08:10 pm
I think this needs to be revisited as I've mentioned it before, and the minute I read your comment one name jumped to mind.  Kyndo, stop overreaching and changing people's posts.  It creates an inaccurate record of something they did not write or intend.  Either delete it or comment on it, but don't edit other people's posts. 
Except to delete extreme cases of obscenities or personal attacks, I don't change the content of people's posts. Why would I?

And yeah, I did delete an argument that was threatening to derail this thread (which is already a derailment of another thread). The argument was a bit disturbing, wasn't relevant to the discussion, and was making people angry. So I killed it. I apologize if that seems overly censorious, but things can devolve pretty quickly, sometimes.  :sad:

Also, as I already explained, the first post was changed so as to introduce this new thread. I did that because it's impossible to delete, move, or replace the first post of a thread. I have no idea why that is. It's really inconvenient.
Anyway, I thought it was clear that I was the one who wrote the post, and not the poster, but I can certainly go back and make it even clearer, I suppose.   :smiley:
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: tylerthegloob on May 12, 2020, 12:46:51 pm
HI!
THIS IS KYNDO HI-JACKING A RANDOM COMMENT SO AS TO INTRODUCE THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD.
THE FOLLOWING WAS NOT WRITTEN, ENDORSED, OR POSSIBLY EVEN NOTICED BY DIPPEDINBLUSH.
I REPEAT: THIS IS NOT DIPPEDINBLUSH!

i love you kyndo. and you need to do this every time now
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Ronnie Omelettes on May 12, 2020, 12:56:17 pm
Except to delete extreme cases of obscenities or personal attacks, I don't change the content of people's posts. Why would I?

Jesus Christ Kyndo, you're one of the most fu...nny, handsome, fit people on these boards.  You effortlessly use charm and persuasion in all your posts and leave a kind of lavender fragrance after you post.  I know you could teach me a thing or two about how to be as popular as you.  Seriously, you're like a.....king dick.

*edited by Kyndo*

*not really*
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CO2 on May 12, 2020, 01:05:52 pm
your posts and leave a kind of lavender fragrance after you post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CREpelOcZxQ
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 12, 2020, 01:20:10 pm
Dippedinblush insulted posters who were doubting the story a lot - but those comments were deleted by Kyndo. Then she spoke on toxic masculinity. Then said she would cut me up and eat me like samgyeopsal. After the censoring she came across as civil and polite. So maybe no gold star is warranted.
People tend to react rather angrily if you say they're lying about something serious they experienced.

Mr. C once thought I was lying about something that happened with a student of mine. This wasn't the usual "Marty your story about X adventure in your night about something that in your deranged Marty eyes you see as mirthful or insightful is a crock of crap", it was something that involved a really distressing moment and he said I was just making it up. That really pissed me off to suggest I was lying about something like that. I had a few choice words and I think the posts were deleted and the thread locked.

Those are the things that can lead to fistfights at a bar, to continue the analogy stoat was using. You gotta be careful with those. You can ask for more clarification and you can express your doubts, but be prepared for that reaction.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 12, 2020, 01:56:15 pm
Dippedinblush insulted posters who were doubting the story a lot - but those comments were deleted by Kyndo. Then she spoke on toxic masculinity. Then said she would cut me up and eat me like samgyeopsal. After the censoring she came across as civil and polite. So maybe no gold star is warranted.

Do you not remember that you had kept insinuated I was lying by trying to use my sexuality against me.  I called you a human pig.  I never used the term "toxic masculinity."  I never insulted any other posters but you and stoat who kept pushing and pushing.

You then, because I don't agree with Jordan Peterson's views, told the male posters on this to come and attack me with their proverbial pitchforks.  You are a real piece of work LI.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Kayos on May 12, 2020, 01:59:47 pm
People tend to react rather angrily if you say they're lying about something serious they experienced.

Mr. C once thought I was lying about something that happened with a student of mine. This wasn't the usual "Marty your story about X adventure in your night about something that in your deranged Marty eyes you see as mirthful or insightful is a crock of crap", it was something that involved a really distressing moment and he said I was just making it up. That really pissed me off to suggest I was lying about something like that. I had a few choice words and I think the posts were deleted and the thread locked.

Those are the things that can lead to fistfights at a bar, to continue the analogy stoat was using. You gotta be careful with those. You can ask for more clarification and you can express your doubts, but be prepared for that reaction.

You could also agree to disagree.
I can understand getting frustrated over something that happened but, no one believing you; But to start fights over it is just really not cool man. (not directed at you, just at anyone who might start a fight over something like that).
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: stoat on May 12, 2020, 02:02:28 pm
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I never insulted any other posters but you and stoat who kept pushing and pushing.

You're coming across as a bit pathetic now. You're a grown adult presumably, if you don't want to answer people's questions on an internet forum, nobody's forcing you to. 
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: L I on May 12, 2020, 02:06:42 pm
Dippedinblush,

I didnít question your story.

I didnít insinuate you were lying.

I just said donít lust over a married man.

You also said ďI didnít repeatedly use the term assault; I only said it onceĒ when you had in fact said it three terms prior to making that statement (as anyone reading both threads could clearly see). Why would I point out something petty like that now? Just to make a point people in general donít have the best memories / misremember things then unbeknownst to them give a false account of what happened.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: L I on May 12, 2020, 02:15:36 pm
A false account of the thread I mean. Itíd be better if all the posts were still there rather than removed. 
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Kyndo on May 12, 2020, 02:59:49 pm
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/96/e3/41/96e3410edc24842126473755c58d00ee.gif)
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 12, 2020, 05:24:41 pm
I want more diagrams. Also, can we get some color? Are the walls a nice biscuit? Sky blue? Eggshell white? And what of the location of the man with the umbrella and Keith Hernandez?

Also, as penance, Kyndo should have to hand write his posts for the next week and post them as images.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Stefaneekaye on May 13, 2020, 09:21:31 am
So, as someone who has been assaulted multiple times, taken one of the assaulters to court, been ripped apart by defense counsel, had friends dismiss and say I was lying after losing the trial (statistically I already knew the chance of him being convicted for the sexual abuse, but still tried), had the friends who said I should report in the first place then say I was lying, people demand every detail humanly imaginable and then dismiss you because it isn't what they think it should be - Being repeatedly questioned and dismissed, after you've tried to be kind and retain a sense of normality through the trauma, is stressful. Sometimes, it rehashes that trauma more vividly in your memory and guess what? It's traumatic.

Maybe instead of attacking dippedinblush for being defensive when so many expressed consistent dismissal of her claims, despite even patiently providing even more information, it'd be better to acknowledge that you didn't have to experience it. Whether you believe it or not, there's a moment to recognize these are still other people on the other sides of their keyboards who deserve respect and you don't know how much the trauma could have affected them if it's real, so it's better to err on the side of caution.

If someone has experienced something serious such as this, repeatedly saying they shouldn't get emotional over it, or 'start fights,' comes from a place of privilege because you haven't had to deal with that. It's like telling someone who is depressed to just not be. Those experiences tend to have very visceral responses when brought up, especially when an attack on said experiences feels like an attack on your character.  It's very difficult to just let that stand. No, I didn't lie about my assaults, just like I'm sure dippedinblush or DeMartino didn't with his experience. But when it is constantly thrown back at us that we are lying, or it is insinuated, I think it is more than fair that we stand up for ourselves.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: stoat on May 13, 2020, 10:02:55 am
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If someone has experienced something serious such as this, repeatedly saying they shouldn't get emotional over it, or 'start fights,' comes from a place of privilege because you haven't had to deal with that

Don't assume things you don't know about other people. Not everyone who has experienced something upsetting is automatically going to agree with other people who have experienced a similar thing. 
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Stefaneekaye on May 13, 2020, 10:18:49 am
Don't assume things you don't know about other people. Not everyone who has experienced something upsetting is automatically going to agree with other people who have experienced a similar thing. 

So, because you handled it differently, it validates being insensitive or dismissive toward them?

You don't agree with how they handle(d) or how they reflect on what occurred to themselves, so it's okay to respond flippantly as many people here have, then be even more dismissive when the OP defends themselves against the responses?

I'm not assuming anyone has/hasn't experienced something traumatic, but you haven't had that specific experience of the other individual, you weren't there, weren't in their brains experiencing that specific moment. It's impossible for you to say you would do anything differently because you are not literally in their shoes. Having similar or dissimilar responses/experiences of your own doesn't change that you can respect the humanity of the person you are talking with/to on the other side of your screen.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Kyndo on May 13, 2020, 10:20:16 am
Also, as penance, Kyndo should have to hand write his posts for the next week and post them as images.
(https://i.imgur.com/iviA4Kn.jpg)
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Stefaneekaye on May 13, 2020, 10:26:12 am
(https://i.imgur.com/iviA4Kn.jpg)

For a moment, I thought this was German and was confused - didn't think I lost that much reading comprehension since university. Made the effort and it was worth it to learn the language this is in...leaving vague so others have to also figure it out haha
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CO2 on May 13, 2020, 10:34:56 am
(https://i.imgur.com/iviA4Kn.jpg)

This is the douchiest thing you've ever posted.

EDIT: Dutch-est.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: stoat on May 13, 2020, 10:44:45 am
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So, because you handled it differently, it validates being insensitive or dismissive toward them?

No, the context influences how people behave towards a person. If someone says to a crowded room, 'hey let me tell you about a crazy thing that happened to me in Korea', you could be forgiven for assuming they aren't still traumatised by the exerience and treat them accordingly. If someone takes you aside and says 'Can I talk to you about a terrible thing that happened to me last year that's still affecting me', you'll handle it much more gently. 
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 13, 2020, 11:05:19 am
No, I didn't lie about my assaults, just like I'm sure dippedinblush or DeMartino didn't with his experience.
Clarification, what I was talking about didn't involve assault of myself. It involved me attempting to take a student to my coteacher for discipline for dong-chimming me (well, I guess I was technically assaulted, but that wasn't the bad part). The bad horrific memory part was when I attempted to take her to the teacher, the reaction of this 1st grade girl was like someone being dragged to their execution. And I'm not talking about the usual kiddie fussings and whinings and wailings. She had a complete breakdown and was in mortal terror. She ended up being inconsolable for close to half an hour. I have never seen a child react like that, even during the most extreme of temper tantrums. This was something else. It made me seriously wonder what had happened in her life to make her react that way. It's something I NEVER want to experience again in my life. That reaction was seriously unnerving. It didn't help that she quit the English program too. I understand she's a kid and heck, by now all these years later it's probably forgotten, so who knows, maybe I have ended up worse because of it than her. Anyways, it was a REALLY shitty feeling.

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But when it is constantly thrown back at us that we are lying, or it is insinuated, I think it is more than fair that we stand up for ourselves.
I can't speak for you or dippledinblush, I post on here a lot and get called a liar on a lot of things (erroneously too- Some people here have trouble distinguishing an error/opinion/different interpretation/different conclusion/hyperbole/etc. from a LIE, as in just making something up with no basis purely to deceive and manipulate) and usually it's just whatever. It's the internet.

But when it comes to stuff like that, being called a liar over a painful memory is something else. In real life you'd get a warning. After that those would be fighting words.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: stoat on May 13, 2020, 11:15:16 am
You'd use physical violence on someone because they didn't believe some anecdote you told them?
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Kyndo on May 13, 2020, 11:39:45 am
Countries do the same: fly into foreign militarized waters and you're likely to see shots across the bow. Ignore them and it's possible that the next shots will be fired *into* the bow.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Ronnie Omelettes on May 13, 2020, 11:49:22 am
I post on here a lot and get called a liar on a lot of things (erroneously too- Some people here have trouble distinguishing an error/opinion/different interpretation/different conclusion/hyperbole/etc. from a LIE, as in just making something up with no basis purely to deceive and manipulate) and usually it's just whatever.

Sorry guys and gals!

The internet just exploded into pieces now.

Not sure what it was from this post. 

Any idea as to why, would be greatly appreciated. 

Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: stoat on May 13, 2020, 12:09:22 pm
Is it something about Trump?
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CO4 on May 13, 2020, 12:25:35 pm
How do my posts keep getting deleted yet Ronnie is allowed to sling shit at DM all the time, unmoderated?

Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: OnNut81 on May 13, 2020, 12:29:00 pm
How do my posts keep getting deleted yet Ronnie is allowed to sling shit at DM all the time, unmoderated?



The death knell of any site is when a clique is allowed to form.  This site has been pretty cliquish.  Serious criticisms of select posters are frowned upon.  Get busy on about 5000 more innocuous posts and you'll be in that select company.  The Untouchables.  Then you can post anything. 
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 13, 2020, 12:32:14 pm
You'd use physical violence on someone because they didn't believe some anecdote you told them?
An anecdote would be something like me telling fishing stories or that time my neighbor fired a spud gun through his tractor.

If you can't tell the difference between "anecdotes" and serious stories people tell about painful memories, you should probably just take another sip of beer and listen some more.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Ronnie Omelettes on May 13, 2020, 12:38:05 pm
You'd use physical violence on someone because they didn't believe some anecdote you told them?

He threatened Mr C with physical assault because of that, if I remember correctly.  Mr C?  With the lovely voice?  Butter wouldn't melt in his mouth?  Yeh, him!  :-*

I hope Mr C is feeling better, because he was a little shaken up with it being the internet n'all.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: stoat on May 13, 2020, 01:14:24 pm
An anecdote would be something like me telling fishing stories or that time my neighbor fired a spud gun through his tractor.

If you can't tell the difference between "anecdotes" and serious stories people tell about painful memories, you should probably just take another sip of beer and listen some more.

You'd use physical violence on someone because they didn't believe a serious story about painful memories you told them?

(Incidentally 'anecdote' can just mean a biographical story)
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr C on May 13, 2020, 01:24:29 pm
You'd use physical violence on someone because they didn't believe a serious story about painful memories you told them?

I'm not sure he'd use it, but he surely threatened it. 
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: tylerthegloob on May 13, 2020, 01:28:20 pm
I'm not sure he'd use it, but he surely threatened it. 

no he didn't.

(and i'm gonna keep saying "no he didn't" until you--very predictably--get angry. then i'm gonna pretend it's all just banter and start lecturing you on why you really need to calm down)
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr C on May 13, 2020, 01:31:09 pm
no he didn't.

(and i'm gonna keep saying "no he didn't" until you--very predictably--get angry. then i'm gonna pretend it's all just banter and start lecturing you on why you really need to calm down)
Ha!  I can see through your plan, and it won't work!   M@#$%^F*^^%$^#!
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CO2 on May 13, 2020, 01:52:58 pm
How do my posts keep getting deleted yet Ronnie is allowed to sling shit at DM all the time, unmoderated?



LOL
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: 745sticky on May 13, 2020, 02:13:30 pm
this thread is suddenly housing quite a number of galaxybrain takes
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Cohort 2019 on May 13, 2020, 02:25:41 pm
Am I the only one here who noticed Kyndo's abhorrent spelling error?  :-[
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CO2 on May 13, 2020, 02:33:36 pm
Am I the only one here who noticed Kyndo's abhorrent spelling error?  :-[

Militarized? Or a Dutch one?
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 13, 2020, 02:36:03 pm
Clarification, what I was talking about didn't involve assault of myself. It involved me attempting to take a student to my coteacher for discipline for dong-chimming me (well, I guess I was technically assaulted, but that wasn't the bad part). The bad horrific memory part was when I attempted to take her to the teacher, the reaction of this 1st grade girl was like someone being dragged to their execution. And I'm not talking about the usual kiddie fussings and whinings and wailings. She had a complete breakdown and was in mortal terror. She ended up being inconsolable for close to half an hour. I have never seen a child react like that, even during the most extreme of temper tantrums. This was something else. It made me seriously wonder what had happened in her life to make her react that way. It's something I NEVER want to experience again in my life. That reaction was seriously unnerving. It didn't help that she quit the English program too. I understand she's a kid and heck, by now all these years later it's probably forgotten, so who knows, maybe I have ended up worse because of it than her. Anyways, it was a REALLY shitty feeling.
I can't speak for you or dippledinblush, I post on here a lot and get called a liar on a lot of things (erroneously too- Some people here have trouble distinguishing an error/opinion/different interpretation/different conclusion/hyperbole/etc. from a LIE, as in just making something up with no basis purely to deceive and manipulate) and usually it's just whatever. It's the internet.

But when it comes to stuff like that, being called a liar over a painful memory is something else. In real life you'd get a warning. After that those would be fighting words.

I honestly don't know how you deal with so much negativity that gets thrown your way almost every single day.  You must have very thick skin/balls of steel.  Personally, it would do my head it dealing with that.    Thanks to you and Stefaneekaye, for trying to understand my point of view and empathise aka "white-knighting" (ridiculous term).
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: tylerthegloob on May 13, 2020, 02:37:57 pm
this thread is suddenly housing quite a number of galaxybrain takes

THIS thread??? suddenly???

this whole website is the galaxy brain HQ, my man. welcome
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: 745sticky on May 13, 2020, 02:38:57 pm
aka "white-knighting" (ridiculous term).

reddit moment
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Colburnnn on May 13, 2020, 02:45:04 pm
this thread is suddenly housing quite a number of galaxybrain takes

Yeah like questioning the use of a doorlock making someone alt-right. That was a great one.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: tylerthegloob on May 13, 2020, 02:53:33 pm
you're an ever bigger goober than me (and i'm a huge ****** goober) if you think that THAT'S the reason that mayorhaggar called you alt-right
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Ronnie Omelettes on May 13, 2020, 02:54:17 pm
You must have very thick skin. 

Hey, marty's no shrinking violet.  Think somebody like Barnes from Platoon and you're more or less there.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: tylerthegloob on May 13, 2020, 02:58:04 pm
you really find a way to make your d'tino hate-boner relevant in every thread, don't you?
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Ronnie Omelettes on May 13, 2020, 03:09:19 pm
you really find a way to make your d'tino hate-boner relevant in every thread, don't you?

응 그래!

장님이 코끼리 만지는 격이다!
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Cohort 2019 on May 13, 2020, 03:20:29 pm
 :azn:


Militarized? Or a Dutch one?

A Dutch one!
That Pancake of a man!

Hmm, I'm off to buy some. :P
(https://i.ibb.co/HHw8h8b/Omas-Pannenkoeken-Nutella-en-banaan.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YLns0s1)
<a [/url]
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Kyndo on May 13, 2020, 04:40:01 pm
 For shame! "Militarized" can be spelled both with an 's' or a 'z', CO2. And as a Canadian, who tend to... waffle... between the BrE and AmE spelllings, you should know this!

And loll @ cohort! I reread it like twice and was convinced that you were just taking the piss when I finallly noticed it. And enjoy your flensjes: I could definitely assaullt a plate of 'em right now!

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQuUM8177deOu5KH6JWNpOIH6ucSkKuofnYfapwyGIWacbQ5Qui&s)  (https://www.efteling.com/nl/-/media/images/blog/eten-en-drinken/20190211-nieuweseizoenspannenkoek/650x370-pannenkoek.jpg?h=370&w=650&la=nl&hash=C2F2429A0B249795FE2F2F47C429B24C)  (https://kookidee.nl/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/zomerse-pannenkoeken-aardbeien-vanille-roomijs-slagroom.jpg)  (https://images-2.schellywood.be/thumbnail/sidebar-wide/19947/vietnamese-pannenkoek.jpg)  (https://previews.123rf.com/images/peteers/peteers1508/peteers150800438/44035691-blueberry-muffins-en-pannenkoeken-melk-en-jam-op-de-achtergrond-en-mand-vol-bosbessen.jpg)


Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 13, 2020, 06:01:07 pm
I honestly don't know how you deal with so much negativity that gets thrown your way almost every single day.  You must have very thick skin/balls of steel.  Personally, it would do my head it dealing with that.    Thanks to you and Stefaneekaye, for trying to understand my point of view and empathise aka "white-knighting" (ridiculous term).
Appreciate the kind words, but given the amount I do post here, I'm sure sooner or later you'll find reason to regret those words and agree with one of the more antagonistic sorts here and curse my name up and down. All the same though, glad I could help.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 13, 2020, 06:30:04 pm
You'd use physical violence on someone because they didn't believe a serious story about painful memories you told them?
There are certain things that if someone is talking about them and the painful memories they invoke, you tread on thin ice by calling them a liar. Amongst them would include- death, being incarcerated, pain involving children, serious/terminal illness of themselves or a loved one, sexual assault, war/severe violence, and probably a few others I haven't named.

Things that probably are not on thin ice- Sporting events, concerts, camping and fishing stories, wild nature events, general life stories of childhood and growing up, "wild tales", sexual exploits, video gaming, dieting, exercise routine, and so on. The general reaction to being accused of falsehood with these (even if they are 100% true), unless they are a source of deep pride and identification for the person, is usually much calmer. Also, the person accusing the person of making it up is often not going to push the matter and their call-out is often half-hearted or in jest.

Also, and this can work a number of ways, there are some people who do push people's buttons to see how they react as a way of seeing how truthful they are and what kind of character they have.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: stoat on May 13, 2020, 06:38:36 pm
So that's a yes then. Jesus, you're like over 40? and you're admitting, while sober, that someone you don't even know personally could say something to make you want to fight them.  Mind blowing. You do know that would be against the law as well?
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 13, 2020, 07:05:16 pm
So that's a yes then. Jesus, you're like over 40? and you're admitting, while sober, that someone you don't even know personally could say something to make you want to fight them.  Mind blowing. You do know that would be against the law as well?
Yeah. And? What you think it would be my first time in a holding cell?
I don't know where you grew up, but there's certain things that you don't let pass.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 13, 2020, 07:06:27 pm
So that's a yes then. Jesus, you're like over 40? and you're admitting, while sober, that someone you don't even know personally could say something to make you want to fight them.  Mind blowing. You do know that would be against the law as well?

Words do carry power, believe it or not.  Wars have been carried out throughout history based on a choice few words.  You are quite myopic if you believe that being the keyboard warrior you are, you can't strike a blow or two at someone and they bleed, even though you can't see it.   Also bringing someone's age up is redundant, no?   (and yes, I chose the cringey "keyboard warrior" buzzword, but in this case it applies)
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 13, 2020, 07:20:43 pm
Appreciate the kind words, but given the amount I do post here, I'm sure sooner or later you'll find reason to regret those words and agree with one of the more antagonistic sorts here and curse my name up and down. All the same though, glad I could help.
Yes, I've disagreed with you so so so many times, and I think have cursed you on many occasions as well.  In fact when I first entered this site and read all the things you were saying I really disliked what you had to say. 
But, like ddeokbokki, you've grown on me, and reading your posts, I realise you are not one-dimensional, and have truly valid points to make (regardless of whether or not I believe them).  I think you are a good and decent person, who is trying to add a voice where there possibly isn't one, and I respect you for that.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Cohort 2019 on May 13, 2020, 07:27:26 pm
Well said, a very apt and elegant way to describe him!  :azn:
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Cohort 2019 on May 13, 2020, 07:35:53 pm
And as a Canadian....


Take your excuses to that other forum thread! CO2 is right to insist on some consistency and adherence to propriety from our exalted mods. :angel:

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Is that ....a hamburger pannekoek? With a dill pickle?
Whattt !
 How dare you! You... Canuck!?  :sad:
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 13, 2020, 07:44:59 pm
Hey, marty's no shrinking violet.  Think somebody like Barnes from Platoon and you're more or less there.

I've never watched Platoon!!.....Ok gonna download it!!!!
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Cohort 2019 on May 13, 2020, 07:50:38 pm
I've never watched Platoon!!..

 ;D "Someone's been living under a rock''
(https://media.giphy.com/media/WRQiZ1rkueNh0Dw1mQ/giphy.gif)

Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 13, 2020, 07:52:24 pm
;D "Someone's been living under a rock''
(https://media.giphy.com/media/WRQiZ1rkueNh0Dw1mQ/giphy.gif)



haha I said i would download it, silly! And its 35 percent done!   I'm edumacating myself!  Hey Pancake man, are you saying that you can go and get those luscious banana-chocolate pancakes here in Korea?  Where?  I come from a little Dutch town in Southern Ontario and I "expect". hehe
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Cohort 2019 on May 13, 2020, 08:21:17 pm
 ;D

Maybe you can help Kyndo out with his Dutch!

Erm, there used to be this pancake/waffle place in Itaewon but baking them yourself is always tastier!
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: stoat on May 13, 2020, 08:21:31 pm
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Yeah. And? What you think it would be my first time in a holding cell?
I don't know where you grew up, but there's certain things that you don't let pass.

 :laugh: I'm a grown adult, so like most sane people, the only time I've resorted to violence since leaving school was either to protect myself, or others, against physical attack.

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Also bringing someone's age up is redundant, no?

Normally it would be, but statistical evidence shows that after the age of 40 the proportion of people in prison (who are predominantly men) dramatically decreases. So you'd expect people over that age to have a much more mature attitude towards resorting to physical violence.   
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 13, 2020, 08:31:10 pm
;D

Maybe you can help Kyndo out with his Dutch!

Erm, there used to be this pancake/waffle place in Itaewon but baking them yourself is always tastier!

I can't speak Dutch at all!  But I was introduced to a lot of "Dutch treats" (not the Schneider's hot dogs) aka bakeries and one of the two restaurants in my town included Dutch pancakes and other dishes when I lived there.  P.S.  Kyndo has the cutest handwriting of any 5th or 6th grader I've ever seen.....kkkk  I LOVE THE IMAGE POSTED AS WELL....the ivy!!! Classy as hell....hahah
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 13, 2020, 08:47:10 pm
:laugh: I'm a grown adult, so like most sane people, the only time I've resorted to violence since leavng school was either to protect myself, or others, against physical attack.

Normally it would be, but statistical evidence shows that after the age of 40 the proportion of people in prison (who are predominantly men) dramatically decreases. So you'd expect people over that age to have a much more mature attitude towards resorting to physical violence.   

Wouldn't you rather gather in on the pancake party, then re-hash the negativity that you are perpetuating?  I bet you have a pancake dish...or a French toast one?

Share the recipe...especially if it involves bacon!  Come on stoat....be happy :D
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 13, 2020, 08:56:03 pm
Wouldn't you rather gather in on the pancake party, then re-hash the negativity that you are perpetuating?  I bet you have a pancake dish...or a French toast one?

Share the recipe...especially if it involves bacon!  Come on stoat....be happy :D


KYNDO... how about making "Your best tried and true breakfast recipes" You can use my name again if you want to and I will endorse it.  hehe:D
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr C on May 13, 2020, 10:47:15 pm
Yes, I've disagreed with you so so so many times, and I think have cursed you on many occasions as well.  In fact when I first entered this site and read all the things you were saying I really disliked what you had to say. 
But, like a fungus, you've grown on me

Fixed it for you.

To be clear, I am sure that in the constructs of the normal world, DMT is not a bad guy--he doesn't beat his wife, cheat on his taxes or fail to get his round in (frankly guessing on that last one, but I hope so).  If we met in a bar, I could probably have a reasonable conversation with him for a while.

The incident involving his butt-hurt (oh that's wrong and I apologize!) has been I think more than adequately dissected.  However, among the regular/frequent/obsessive posters on this forum, DMT is almost the exemplar of what is wrong and bad about internet forums (though some here are worse). 

He says things that are objectively untrue with the regularity of a pile-driver, and calls his inaccurate facts "opinions" (at least he shies away from "alternate facts").  He frequently engages in irrelevant whataboutism; he issues bizarre non-sequitur analogies to prove his wrong-ity wrong points; and he lies.  A lot.  He lies like a Persian rug.  And then he changes the lie when it suits him.

Just yesterday, I called him out for repeatedly (and this has been a KEY talking point for him) saying that the US House of Reps is a "co-equal branch" with the WH (Executive).  His ultimate response:

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"One at 30%, two others at 25% each and the fourth at 20%"

Aside from the fact that there are three "co-equal" (HIS REPEATED description) branches, looking at those numbers suggest they are not "co-equal" in any way.  In the same breathless BS he said the "the power of lawmaking and appropriation resides with the House".  As if there's no such thing as "marking up" or the actual tradition that the WH sends its budget down first.  He knows these things, but just lies about them when convenient. 

To defend the Trump administration's abject failure regarding PPEs, he said that it's Korea's pollution problem that has led to the availability of masks here.  I can't be assed to read through his posts (my eyes would bleed), but I bet he's done a hundred of 'em about how Korea's pollution isn't a problem, look at China, or San Diego or etc, etc.

And that's just yesterday.  There are literally thousands of cases where he's said a bunch of BS--he also repeatedly insists that lying is just how regular people behave.  So disliking what he has to say is fine.  It means you're normal. 

So, you know, you may feel some kind of pity or something for the way he is treated here, but make no mistake, he's brought it on himself.  He's no eleven-year-old child who's wondered into a dragon's den, he's an "adult" with full autonomy over his actions, and this is how he chooses to behave.  And how he should be treated.  Badly.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 13, 2020, 11:12:40 pm
Mr. C.
Isn't it true that one of the reasons Korea is handling the virus well is because they had been manufacturing similar masks to these masks before (dealing with blocking out particulate matter) and had the right infrastructure set up to manufacture the KF94 masks promptly? I don't think that's a stretch at all. 

I don't feel pity for him. He is a competent man.  But I can separate the wheat from the chaff as well.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr C on May 13, 2020, 11:26:50 pm
Mr. C.

Isn't it true that one of the reasons Korea is handling the virus is because they have had been manufacturing these masks before and had the right infrastructure set up to manufacture the KF94 masks promptly?

Hmm.  Well, I returned from my vacation on Feb 25.  On the 26th, I was unable to find a single mask anywhere in my neighborhood--adult-sized mask.  There was one single kid mask with a bear on it in Emart (which I couldn't wear).  I think I've mentioned this elsewhere.  Almost a week later, the mom-and-pop got some in--17,000 W for 5. 

But I'm not sure you're following the thread here. 
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 13, 2020, 11:31:42 pm
Hmm.  Well, I returned from my vacation on Feb 25.  On the 26th, I was unable to find a single mask anywhere in my neighborhood--adult-sized mask.  There was one single kid mask with a bear on it in Emart (which I couldn't wear).  I think I've mentioned this elsewhere.  Almost a week later, the mom-and-pop got some in--17,000 W for 5. 

But I'm not sure you're following the thread here. 

Do you have a pic of you wearing a bear mask?  Preferably among bears?  Your kids would go crazy for that.  As would I. 

Obvs you needed to go to the post office and get your masks or go on your appointed day to the pharmacy and get them there. There is also online...(which is available in Korea)..you need not go  without, Mr. C.

There were/are lots of masks to go around.

Also what am I not getting here??? Please explain.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 14, 2020, 12:04:29 am
Yes, I've disagreed with you so so so many times, and I think have cursed you on many occasions as well.  In fact when I first entered this site and read all the things you were saying I really disliked what you had to say. 
But, like ddeokbokki, you've grown on me, and reading your posts, I realise you are not one-dimensional, and have truly valid points to make (regardless of whether or not I believe them).  I think you are a good and decent person, who is trying to add a voice where there possibly isn't one, and I respect you for that.
Thanks for the kind words, hope I can not disappoint for at least a few days. But when I do say something dumb, please let er rip. Anyways, I'm sorry you had to go through that. Home invasion and sexual assault are a big deal. Mr. C is a good guy who has contributed a lot of material, to this site, is a person deeply concerned with morality and the welfare of his students, and while we have our beef, hopefully that doesn't affect anything in your dealings with him.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 14, 2020, 12:05:37 am
Well said, a very apt and elegant way to describe him!  :azn:
Spicy and disrupted with spoiled, processed fishiness masquerading as something of substance?
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 14, 2020, 12:14:07 am
Spicy and disrupted with spoiled, processed fishiness masquerading as something of substance?

Don't be silly Mr DeMartino!!! People love you... You sound like Gordon Ramsey critiquing your own self!  Silly goose. Wanna re-think your flavors?
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 14, 2020, 12:38:03 am
why are you explaining yourself to stoat?  he wasn't there and he has nothing to do with your world...he loves to push buttons and he's definitely pushed yours.  Enough.  Can't we move on to pancakes and breakfast...?  DeMartino..I think yourbreakfast definitely involves a hollandaise?
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 14, 2020, 12:57:06 am
Just yesterday, I called him out for repeatedly (and this has been a KEY talking point for him) saying that the US House of Reps is a "co-equal branch" with the WH (Executive).  His ultimate response:

Aside from the fact that there are three "co-equal" (HIS REPEATED description) branches, looking at those numbers suggest they are not "co-equal" in any way.  In the same breathless BS he said the "the power of lawmaking and appropriation resides with the House".  As if there's no such thing as "marking up" or the actual tradition that the WH sends its budget down first.  He knows these things, but just lies about them when convenient. 
I ask the good people of waygook- Did I lie here? A lie being an active attempt to deceive for whatever purpose.

Having a difference of opinion is not a lie. Being in error is not a lie. Using a common turn of phrase to imprecisely describe something is not a lie. Using a phrase to describe something that exists in theory that might not exist in practice is not a lie.
I mean, a simple google search of "Co-equal branches of government" turns up thousands of hits ascribing that term to the American system of government. Some of these are from official organizations like the American Bar Association. On the other hand, you have some other hits that are opinion articles that say they are not actually co-equal branches of government. Now is someone lying in this case?

It's like arguing over whether some NFL team that finished with an 8-8 record but made the playoffs was "above average or not" and one person accusing the other of lying. Person A says "You can't be above average if your record is .500" The other person says that making the playoffs makes you an above average team and points to a positive points differential and other stats. Who is right? Well both can be right or wrong. But no one is LYING here.

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To defend the Trump administration's abject failure regarding PPEs, he said that it's Korea's pollution problem that has led to the availability of masks here. 
Okay, this isn't a lie. Nor does anything that follows from you make this a lie. Whether I have said or not said that Korea's pollution isn't a problem, that doesn't affect whether Korea's air pollution situation has resulted in a mask production infrastructure here that exceeds that in the U.S.

I mean we all live in Korea. Is this an actual dispute with you? If you really want to show examples of me "lying", then I don't think this is quite as good of an example as you think it is.

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I can't be assed to read through his posts (my eyes would bleed), but I bet he's done a hundred of 'em about how Korea's pollution isn't a problem, look at China, or San Diego or etc, etc.
Now, if I had said that, you would accuse me of lying. I on the other hand will look at your comment and interpret it as you either mis-remembering or misinterpreting what I said. A lot of times people interpret "It's also a problem in Country X" as me saying "It isn't a problem in Korea" or that me showing how a similar phenomenon that happens elsewhere is relatable to something here and if we understand why it happens back home, perhaps we can understand why it happens here and not just go with the simple-minded and often bigoted explanation of "culture."

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he also repeatedly insists that lying is just how regular people behave.
Yes, I have said that one rule of police investigation, and this is according to cops themselves, is that everyone lies, and that you CANNOT infer someone's guilt simply because they lie to the police about something. This is actually a very critical point for critically analyzing crime and major news stories. The fact that someone lies about something does not make them guilty of everything.

I also attributed regular lying to things people do, basically paraphrasing what I think is a Chris Rock bit about all the lies people do like makeup, clothes, their watch, etc. And all sorts of unconscious or day to day lies that people engage in. Mr. C claimed that lying was not a regular thing, at least that's how I interpreted his response (and he never went against it). I disagreed. I think lying is incredibly common among people and it takes various forms. Apparently this interpretation of human behavior by myself makes any opinion of mine suspect.

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Anyways, I think I can give some insight into why Mr. C and me differ so much and why he has a problem with my thought process and why I sometimes get riled up by his interpretations.

We had this dispute over sodas and whether a soda (Soda A) that consistently got 7.0/10.0 scores was better and would sell more than a soda (Soda B) that would get 10/10 from 1 person and 0/10 from 2 other people and in fact, the soda you want to make is Soda B. To Mr. C this was a mathematical problem pure and simple and there simply no logical or truthful way that Soda B could be the correct choice. My point was essentially that what we were talking about was Dr. Pepper vs. generic grocery store cola. And that while 2/3 people might HATE Dr. Pepper and everyone will drink generic cola if at an event, in terms of sales and being a successful product, Dr. Pepper is the superior choice because of those 10/10 fanatical customers. Mr. C again emphasized the mathematics involved and my failure to comprehend those mathematics.

I think this is a good example of the difference of our world views and why we can come to such forceful disagreements.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 14, 2020, 12:59:28 am
why are you explaining yourself to stoat?  he wasn't there and he has nothing to do with your world...he loves to push buttons and he's definitely pushed yours.  Enough.  Can't we move on to pancakes and breakfast...?  DeMartino..I think his breakfast definitely involves a hollandaise?
How about pizza? If there's one thing that can really get people going, it's a discussion about pizza.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 14, 2020, 01:30:02 am
How about pizza? If there's one thing that can really get people going, it's a discussion about pizza.

As long as it doesn't involve pineapple!! OF COURSE!
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Colburnnn on May 14, 2020, 07:16:51 am
Finally, something we can agree on. You are a ******, Xi.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Ronnie Omelettes on May 14, 2020, 07:20:44 am
I've never watched Platoon!!.....Ok gonna download it!!!!

And its 35 percent done!

And?   :-*
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: tylerthegloob on May 14, 2020, 07:26:09 am
Finally, something we can agree on. You are a ******, Xi.

i truly don't know why you repeatedly call me Xi. this thread is already derailed, so i might as well just ask. what's up dude?
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: tylerthegloob on May 14, 2020, 07:37:17 am
I ask the good people of waygook- Did I lie here?

no. you didn't lie. you're probably wrong (i definitely think so), but anyway you didn't lie.

(and for the record... someone conflated one chamber, the house of representatives, with the entire congress (which is both the house and the senate). the whole congress is the branch of government, so of course the house alone wouldn't be co-equal to another branch)
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: OnNut81 on May 14, 2020, 07:37:18 am
Yeah. And? What you think it would be my first time in a holding cell?
I don't know where you grew up, but there's certain things that you don't let pass.

Hahaha, DMart trying to imply he's done time  (a holding cell) totally reminds me of George Costanza trying to be the bad boy in The Little Kicks. 
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Colburnnn on May 14, 2020, 07:37:22 am
i truly don't know why you repeatedly call me Xi. this thread is already derailed, so i might as well just ask. what's up dude?

You do, though. You're just being a ****** for dramatic projection.

What's up? Nothing much. School is pretty 'meh' right now, as my contribution to the online classes is not challenging. CO2 has a severely different role at his school, as evident by his great videos. I have been playing quite a bit of ping pong with the staff though, which is passing the time. At home things are good. Mrs has recently started a new job, says she's tired after 2 weeks (I can't help but laugh, as she had roughly 5 months of being a potato before that. Disappointing that travel plans have to be put on hold, as that is one of my motivating reasons to stay dedicated. But, sport should be returning in some form sooner rather than later, which is another motivational aspect of my life.

How about you Xi? How's things?
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: tylerthegloob on May 14, 2020, 07:39:49 am
You do, though. You're just being a ****** for dramatic projection.

 I have been playing quite a bit of ping pong with the staff though, which is passing the time.

i've also been playing ping pong at school! the hanja teacher at my school is pretty damn good. getting tired of doing zoom classes. and still not sure why i'm Xi...
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CO2 on May 14, 2020, 07:53:13 am
CO2 has a severely different role at his school, as evident by his great videos.
Thanks. Always nice to receive praise for these things. And man, I am getting quick at film editing. haha
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Ronnie Omelettes on May 14, 2020, 07:57:40 am
this thread is already derailed

Finally, someone mentioned this...

So....

The death knell of any site is when a clique is allowed to form.

This had me thinking yesterday evening as I was out walking.  Just musing out loud, but isn't that kind of inevitable that a site like this, as life in general has its cliques.  Part of human nature is that people are naturally drawn together by common interests, in real life and online.  So, this site is no different in that respect.  An example, Titus Groan would post some of his lovely music in the music thread and there are a number of people who feel an affinity to that music so there is a connection which would slowly be a 'clique'.  And over time, that affinity grows.  Also, people on here are away from their home countries and in some cases they don't have any foreigner interaction because of their location, so being on here is a way to form a connection and common bond with others, which is natural.  And I suppose over time, those become 'cliques'.   I don't really see anything here that would make this place unapproachable.  I find most here very friendly and helpful, but any disputes are kind of natural.  Not having a go OnNut  :-* it just got me thinking. 
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CO2 on May 14, 2020, 08:08:39 am
The only reason threads on waygook derail is due to the format of the site. It's one GIANT LIST of comments and it doesn't really allow you to ignore tangents.

Because tangents remain in the giant list.

If we had a true reply option that would branch out, a la reddit, then when you saw that there were 7 more comments about NBA championships in a ranting thread, you could choose to ignore it.

It's not good enough to say threads get derailed.Cconvos go where they go, and you can't create new threads for each one. Why?

A) That would triple or quadruple the amount of threads, that's unwieldy

B) a lot of threads would be 3 or 4 comments long. It wouldn't b e worth it.


Comment branches within threads would fix ALL of these issues.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Kayos on May 14, 2020, 08:17:27 am
As long as it doesn't involve pineapple!! OF COURSE!

you mean as long as it has pineapple and corn on it :p
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CO2 on May 14, 2020, 08:20:14 am
you mean as long as it has pineapple and corn on it :p

What about a base layer of white onions between the sauce and the cheese?
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Stefaneekaye on May 14, 2020, 08:21:57 am
you mean as long as it has pineapple and corn on it :p
No corn. Pineapple, ham, and jalapenos only. <3
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: 745sticky on May 14, 2020, 08:26:14 am
What about a base layer of white onions between the sauce and the cheese?

This is the reason I refuse to eat at local/regional pizza places.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Colburnnn on May 14, 2020, 08:28:25 am
This had me thinking yesterday evening as I was out walking.  Just musing out loud, but isn't that kind of inevitable that a site like this, as life in general has its cliques.  Part of human nature is that people are naturally drawn together by common interests, in real life and online.

Correct. And it depends on the topic being discussed.

What is important is that these topics can be separated, lets take a couple different topics as an example. Food and Politics.

Left and Right. You, Gators and twatface are left on this one. Demart, myself, perhaps stoat and shanebarry might be on the other.

Pinapple on Pizza. Me, I think oglop and someone else said pineapple is one of the GOAT foods on pizza. Others said the opposite. Edit: Kayos and stef too.

Can you discuss pineapple on pizza (or any other topic - just an example) without bringing up (or letting it influence your opinion) that I voted leave?

It's fine to pick a side/form a clique on certain topics, what is not fine is living in that bubble when approaching other aspects of life. I'm not saying you as an individual are guilty of this. But many people these days are, on both sides too.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Kayos on May 14, 2020, 08:33:00 am
What about a base layer of white onions between the sauce and the cheese?

Correction: As long as it has white onions between the sauce and cheese, and then pineapple and corn on it. :p
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Kayos on May 14, 2020, 08:36:01 am
Actually, the Korean dominoes super supreme without the jalapenos / green peppers and mushrooms, is probably the best pizza I've had.
It's: Ham, cheese, pineapple, sauce, onions, corn, bulgogi, and the other stuff I ask to not have on it.
If it wasn't for my diet, I'd love to go buy one this weekend D:
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Colburnnn on May 14, 2020, 08:41:34 am
Actually, the Korean dominoes super supreme without the jalapenos / green peppers and mushrooms, is probably the best pizza I've had.
It's: Ham, cheese, pineapple, sauce, onions, corn, bulgogi, and the other stuff I ask to not have on it.
If it wasn't for my diet, I'd love to go buy one this weekend D:

Agreed.

Recently I've been on the Roasted Potato, Bulgogi, 2 x Pepperoni and Pineapple train. BBQ sauce drizzled on top. Those new spicy chicken bites on the side too.

Korean dominos is 100x better than any takeaway in the UK.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Ronnie Omelettes on May 14, 2020, 08:42:17 am
If it wasn't for my diet, I'd love to go buy one this weekend D:

Kayos, you do realise that technically diets are only observed during the week?

That's just how it is.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CO2 on May 14, 2020, 08:54:52 am
I wanna eat an omelette.  Are they diet friendly?
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: tylerthegloob on May 14, 2020, 08:55:18 am
Comment branches within threads would fix ALL of these issues.
make waygook reddit again

Left and Right. You, Gators and twatface are left on this one.
the stages i went through, trying to figure out if i'm "twatface" :undecided::sad::laugh::-*
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CO2 on May 14, 2020, 08:57:16 am
make waygook reddit again

No upvotes or downvotes, though. haha
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Kyndo on May 14, 2020, 08:59:50 am
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...as a Canadian...
Take your excuses to that other forum thread! CO2 is right to insist on some consistency and adherence to propriety from our exalted mods. :angel:
Is that ....a hamburger pannekoek? With a dill pickle?
Whattt !
How dare you! You... Canuck!?  :sad:
I think you misread my comment: I was accusing CO2 of being a Canadian ( :shocked:), and that I find his lack of logographical wishy-washiness disturbing (https://i.imgflip.com/20cxvf.jpg?a441336).

Oh, and by the way, it's no longer spelled "pannekoek". Back in the 90s they changed it to "pannenkoek". Now it's only those dirty Saffer boeren that still spell it the old way.  :smiley:



P.S.  Kyndo has the cutest handwriting of any 5th or 6th grader I've ever seen.....kkkk

I, uh... hmm. Thank you?

KYNDO... how about making "Your best tried and true breakfast recipes" You can use my name again if you want to and I will endorse it.  hehe:D
My typical tried-and-true breakfast is half a litre of coffee and a handful of jellybeans that I can munch while I run.
   However, I *do* occasionally make pancakes (the correct way: none of that flapjack heresy!) for lunch and dinner.

Recipe:
   - 250ml flour (any sort will do)
   - 300ml milk
   - pinch of salt
   - a bit of baking powder
   - 2 eggs
   - a shot of oil (batter becomes better with butter, but I'm bitter 'bout blending butter. So oil it is)
   - a dash or 2 or 3 of vanilla. I like vanilla, so I go for 3.
   - 50ml brown sugar (I don't usually do this, but it's traditional).

   -adjust ratio of milk to flour depending how first pancake turns out. If you really like super-thin crepe-style pancakes, maybe use only 1 egg (makes 'em difficult to flip, though).

   - Mix wet ingredients.
   - Mix dry ingredients. Add to former.
   - Whisk for a bit, then pour in frying pan. The rest you (ought) to know.
   - Makes about 6 or 7. Smakelijk eten!

   - I usually have a bowl of costco's mixed berries and a bowl of their frozen chopped mangos partially thawed on the counter. Plunk a pancake on a plate, scoop one or the other in, and roll 'em up. I've made chopped and fried apple/cinnamon/brown sugar/butter filling before, which is great, but takes effort...
Anyway, my SO drowns them in maple syrup and whipped cream, but I just dump powdered sugar on them (which I make by blending the crap out of regular sugar).
 
 - I also sometimes make them with cheese (cheddar, or gouda, or edam all work a-ok, thinly sliced and put on the pancake to melt as soon as you've flipped it), but I get weird looks when I do. Weirdos wouldn't know delicious if it bit them.  >:(
 
   Ok! So, from now on I'm starting every new thread with one of your hi-jacked comments, if that's alright with you!
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: OnNut81 on May 14, 2020, 09:00:18 am
Finally, someone mentioned this...

So....

This had me thinking yesterday evening as I was out walking.  Just musing out loud, but isn't that kind of inevitable that a site like this, as life in general has its cliques.  Part of human nature is that people are naturally drawn together by common interests, in real life and online.  So, this site is no different in that respect.  An example, Titus Groan would post some of his lovely music in the music thread and there are a number of people who feel an affinity to that music so there is a connection which would slowly be a 'clique'.  And over time, that affinity grows.  Also, people on here are away from their home countries and in some cases they don't have any foreigner interaction because of their location, so being on here is a way to form a connection and common bond with others, which is natural.  And I suppose over time, those become 'cliques'.   I don't really see anything here that would make this place unapproachable.  I find most here very friendly and helpful, but any disputes are kind of natural.  Not having a go OnNut  :-* it just got me thinking. 


No, I agree that it is a natural progression.  But, along with that natural progression there tends to come a circle the wagons type of dynamic and some new, and perhaps contentious voices will get pushed aside.  What is comfortable shoot the sh*t also tends to become a bit staid in my opinion.  It's like when I worked at this one hakwan years ago and we became a largely tight group where several of us still keep up and even meet up with people now in five countries and three continents.  But, when a new teacher came into the staff room it was always kind of exciting to add a new personality to the mix, despite how well we all got along.  I think that with this being an anonymous website the niceties that allowed an actual person to integrate are often missing in the cyber world.  Just my thoughts. 
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CO2 on May 14, 2020, 09:03:14 am
I think you misread my comment: I was accusing CO2 of being a Canadian ( :shocked:)

I mean, that's a fair accusation, eh?
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Ronnie Omelettes on May 14, 2020, 09:03:40 am
I wanna eat an omelette.  Are they diet friendly?

I'm not feeling your omelette thread at the moment...

(actually, in my student's emails, I'd asked them to send me a recipe with steps on how to make it.  A couple of them at the beginning wrote 'I will tell them you how to make an omelet'.  I replied back saying it's spelt 'omelette'.  Then checked and found out that both are acceptable  :sad: ) FML!

That is the only thing you're getting out of me for your darned omelette/omelet thread!.....and maybea  spinach and cheese one, or a fritata.  But that's it.  Dun!
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Kayos on May 14, 2020, 09:10:32 am
Kayos, you do realise that technically diets are only observed during the week?

That's just how it is.

I'm aware. However, I'm trying to hit my diet hard currently because, once I have a day of indulgence I tend to fall off the wagon, hard.
Once I have my diet set in my ways, then I plan to open up to indulgences once a week.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Liechtenstein on May 14, 2020, 09:17:11 am
I think someone breaking into your house and spanking his monkey is an assault.

No it is not assault. It is breaking and entering and indecent exposure.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Ronnie Omelettes on May 14, 2020, 09:20:03 am
I'm aware. However, I'm trying to hit my diet hard currently because, once I have a day of indulgence I tend to fall off the wagon, hard.
Once I have my diet set in my ways, then I plan to open up to indulgences once a week.

This wagon you speak of, does it have a tantalising bulgogi structure, with a melted cheese interior, succulent ham seats, mouthwatering pineapple wheels, zesty onion head rests, and aromatic, tasty sauce carpets?
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: stoat on May 14, 2020, 09:20:51 am
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Demart, myself, perhaps stoat and shanebarry might be on the other.

Demart would punch someone over the story of an emotionally scarred child. He's a leftie at heart.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: tylerthegloob on May 14, 2020, 09:25:07 am
???????
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Colburnnn on May 14, 2020, 09:26:13 am
the stages i went through, trying to figure out if i'm "twatface"

You're not, you're Xi.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Colburnnn on May 14, 2020, 09:26:57 am
No it is not assault. It is breaking and entering and indecent exposure.

Tropics or no tropics, he is correct.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 14, 2020, 09:35:47 am
This is the reason I refuse to eat at local/regional pizza places.


Ewww C02 that sounds disgusting....and 745sticky: I agree with you.   The ingredients/toppings from my local pizza joint seem to be randomly slopped on.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on May 14, 2020, 09:38:37 am
And?   :-*

It's done downloading and waiting to be watched tonight with some chicken and cold beer! ><
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Kayos on May 14, 2020, 09:40:17 am
This wagon you speak of, does it have a tantalising bulgogi structure, with a melted cheese interior, succulent ham seats, mouthwatering pineapple wheels, zesty onion head rests, and aromatic, tasty sauce carpets?

All the wheels of this wagon have this structure. The rest is made of chocolate chip cookies, and Belgian chocolate.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CO2 on May 14, 2020, 09:52:57 am
It's done downloading and waiting to be watched tonight with some chicken and cold beer! ><

I have no idea what your tastes are, but if you enjoy this movie.............. .. Look, I'll just say it, Full Metal Jacket and Apocalypse Now are much better Vietnam war movies.

Full Metal Jacket captures the process of turning boys into killers and the snaps that occur under the stress of basic training and then during theatre.

This is one of my favourite movies of all time. It introduced me to the idea of how a film is made. I looked into directing, and cinematography. It also lured me out of rap music into the wider world of rock music, solely through the Rolling Stones "Paint It Black" during the end credits. Also, there are so many lines you're gonna hear from so many characters and you're gonna say "I've hear that in a million sitcoms/TV shows/other films." They all started here. Also, Vincent D'Onofrio is bloody spectacular (as is the drill sergeant, R. Lee Ermey)

Apocalypse Now isn't even a Vietnam war movie, per se............ It's basically Joseph Conrad's "Heart of Darkness" adapted out of Colonial Africa for a more modern age.

This is an absolute masterpiece. The acting, the directing, the story. It is dark. It kind of adds to FMJ's method of turning boys into killers and goes the extra step; turning killers into monsters.  Martin Sheen is amazing as Willard and Marlon Brando has his last great role as Colonel Kurtz, an unhinged soldier, hiding out in the jungle, living as a god with his followers that do his every bidding.

You can also see a young Laurence Fishburne and Harrison Ford. 

Platoon is good, I don't doubt that. But these movies are gonna be watched forever, like Shakespeare is now.

PS: Word of advice, watch the original cut of Apocalypse. If you like it, watch the Redux Version. The Redux version is WAYYYY longer and it doesn't need to be. It can put off a first time viewer seeing 180 mins of movie. Original is 2 hours, I believe. EDIT: 2:23/3:23
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Ronnie Omelettes on May 14, 2020, 10:08:48 am
So what started off as thread to discuss a terrible happening with DiB....went through the natural thread progression of discussing that and what people think about the meaning of certain word, a peanut joke, cars being dissed, a photographic representation in Dutch, then some grievances aired, 'galaxybrains', then onto dutch pancakes, some grievances explained, through the omelette spectrum, and arriving at war films. 

Certainly ticks all the boxes for a modern day healthy chinwag on the interwebs...

Init?
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: oglop on May 14, 2020, 10:30:32 am

PS: Word of advice, watch the original cut of Apocalypse. If you like it, watch the Redux Version. The Redux version is WAYYYY longer and it doesn't need to be. It can put off a first time viewer seeing 180 mins of movie. Original is 2 hours, I believe. EDIT: 2:23/3:23
yeah i've only ever seen the Redux version, and it seemed a bit unnecessarily long. maybe why i didn't like it as much as i felt i should. i'll give the normal cut a go

Band of Brothers is my favourite war thing
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: OnNut81 on May 14, 2020, 10:32:15 am
So what started off as thread to discuss a terrible happening with DiB....went through the natural thread progression of discussing that and what people think about the meaning of certain word, a peanut joke, cars being dissed, a photographic representation in Dutch, then some grievances aired, 'galaxybrains', then onto dutch pancakes, some grievances explained, through the omelette spectrum, and arriving at war films. 

Certainly ticks all the boxes for a modern day healthy chinwag on the interwebs...

Init?

After you watched, and I can't imagine not liking, Apocalypse Now try and find Hearts of Darkness, the documentary on the making of Apocalypse Now.  That'll give you a whole other level of appreciation for Martin Sheen's hotel scene where he's losing it.  It wasn't acting.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 14, 2020, 10:37:35 am
no. you didn't lie. you're probably wrong (i definitely think so), but anyway you didn't lie.

(and for the record... someone conflated one chamber, the house of representatives, with the entire congress (which is both the house and the senate). the whole congress is the branch of government, so of course the house alone wouldn't be co-equal to another branch)
In terms of lawmaking and such it's more of a triumvirate of the House-Senate-Exec. SCOTUS often is not involved.

Anyways its kind of a semantic argument over a general point- The House has significant powers and responsibilities. They aren't some helpless sidelined entity and they can't be absolved of significant responsibility.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 14, 2020, 10:38:03 am
Full Metal Jacket is a REALLY dark comedy. Prove me wrong.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Cohort 2019 on May 14, 2020, 10:39:53 am
So what started off as thread to discuss ...Init?

Mods!!!   (https://i.imgflip.com/20cxvf.jpg?a441336).

Ronnie is trying to rail this thread back into good order! Stop him!

(https://img.delicious.com.au/x3FIliTw/w759-h506-cfill/del/2017/02/pineapple-pizza-42622-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 14, 2020, 10:41:25 am
Hahaha, DMart trying to imply he's done time  (a holding cell) totally reminds me of George Costanza trying to be the bad boy in The Little Kicks. 
A night in holding is not doing time. Only mentioned it because someone mentioned it being illegal. Anyways lets leave that behind.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CO2 on May 14, 2020, 10:41:49 am
After you watched, and I can't imagine not liking, Apocalypse Now try and find Hearts of Darkness, the documentary on the making of Apocalypse Now.  That'll give you a whole other level of appreciation for Martin Sheen's hotel scene where he's losing it.  It wasn't acting.

I have the double disc Blu-Ray and the second disc is just HOD. Yeah, Martin Sheen was super unhinged back then.  Had a god damn coronary making this movie, literally.

Now this is getting REAL off topic, but I went to Toronto Int Film Fest, years back and they showed Apocalypse Now with Walter Murch in attendance.

Who is he? He's the editor of Apocalypse Now. He also invented 5.1 surround sound, of which AN was the first to be mixed in this new "surround" format.

I asked him a question after the movie and it had to do with how much film they had after shooting for years. He said they did the math and they had collectively shot 450km of film that they had to sift through to edit.

For reference, the drive from Seoul to Busan is 400km.

Holy shit.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on May 14, 2020, 10:46:27 am
No it is not assault. It is breaking and entering and indecent exposure.
If he is between her and the door, it's assault.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: oglop on May 14, 2020, 10:51:14 am
I have the double disc Blu-Ray and the second disc is just HOD. Yeah, Martin Sheen was super unhinged back then.  Had a god damn coronary making this movie, literally.

Now this is getting REAL off topic, but I went to Toronto Int Film Fest, years back and they showed Apocalypse Now with Walter Murch in attendance.

Who is he? He's the editor of Apocalypse Now. He also invented 5.1 surround sound, of which AN was the first to be mixed in this new "surround" format.

I asked him a question after the movie and it had to do with how much film they had after shooting for years. He said they did the math and they had collectively shot 450km of film that they had to sift through to edit.

For reference, the drive from Seoul to Busan is 400km.

Holy shit.
why did they shoot so much? how many hours is that? how much is usual to shoot for a film?
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CO2 on May 14, 2020, 10:51:36 am
Wait, is this slowly becoming the "Thread For Pointless Ramblings?"

hahahaha
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Ronnie Omelettes on May 14, 2020, 10:56:34 am
why did they shoot so much? how many hours is that? how much is usual to shoot for a film?

Play a record.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CO2 on May 14, 2020, 11:15:05 am
why did they shoot so much? how many hours is that? how much is usual to shoot for a film?
The production was really chaotic and with the weather in the Philippines, and the director (Francis Ford Coppola [Godfather Trilogy, The Conversation]) having a breakdown in health and mind, and just everything going wrong. So many takes, so much shit going south.

You have to understand that the guy was nominated for

1972: Godfather: Best Screenplay (Won), Best Director (Nom)

In the same year (1974), at the 47th Academy Awards, FFC won Best Picture, Best Director, Best Adapted Screenplay for Godfather Part II. But that's not all, he was also nominated for Best Picture and Best Original Screenplay for The Conversation.

This guy was on top of the world. When Bong Joonho won this year, it kind of me reminded me of 1974, one dude just raking in the statues.

The pressure for him to make a movie that was good............... .. I can't even imagine. He flipped the whole studio system on its head. Easy Rider made it known that private financing and a self produced movie could work. FFC has always been the artsy type and know one believed that Godfather would be anything. The producers wanted to fire him so many times.

He took forever because he could. He had the money and the time to do it HIS WAY.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: oglop on May 14, 2020, 11:36:27 am
The production was really chaotic and with the weather in the Philippines, and the director (Francis Ford Coppola [Godfather Trilogy, The Conversation]) having a breakdown in health and mind, and just everything going wrong. So many takes, so much shit going south.

You have to understand that the guy was nominated for

1972: Godfather: Best Screenplay (Won), Best Director (Nom)

In the same year (1974), at the 47th Academy Awards, FFC won Best Picture, Best Director, Best Adapted Screenplay for Godfather Part II. But that's not all, he was also nominated for Best Picture and Best Original Screenplay for The Conversation.

This guy was on top of the world. When Bong Joonho won this year, it kind of me reminded me of 1974, one dude just raking in the statues.

The pressure for him to make a movie that was good............... .. I can't even imagine. He flipped the whole studio system on its head. Easy Rider made it known that private financing and a self produced movie could work. FFC has always been the artsy type and know one believed that Godfather would be anything. The producers wanted to fire him so many times.

He took forever because he could. He had the money and the time to do it HIS WAY.
all right then, i'll let him off
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CO2 on May 14, 2020, 11:44:27 am
all right then, i'll let him off

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/95/c4/90/95c490fcf6f5cf872490b82dc1d0e70d.jpg)
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Liechtenstein on June 04, 2020, 12:32:55 pm
If he is between her and the door, it's assault.

No, it's not. Unless the guy made a clear threat it is not assault. If he was just standing there flashing, there is no clear threat.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on June 04, 2020, 03:43:37 pm
No, it's not. Unless the guy made a clear threat it is not assault. If he was just standing there flashing, there is no clear threat.
Blocking the door and menacing someone is CLEARLY assault. Dude just put himself between the girl and the only exit and exposed himself sexually. That's an action with threat that is causing someone to fear for their safrty and is being done with intent.

Dude was INSIDE HER HOUSE. He INVADED her property.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on June 04, 2020, 08:41:40 pm
Blocking the door and menacing someone is CLEARLY assault. Dude just put himself between the girl and the only exit and exposed himself sexually. That's an action with threat that is causing someone to fear for their safrty and is being done with intent.

Dude was INSIDE HER HOUSE. He INVADED her property.

Coupled by the fact that he wasn't alarmed in any way when I did make eye contact with him.  Didn't move/wasn't phased at all.  He kept on masturbating, not breaking eye contact at all.  He didn't run away....There was no way my friend and I could escape..he was blocking the only viable way out....If my friend wasn't there in my heart of hearts I do feel like he would have "properly" assaulted me. His behavior was escalating.

These actions, tripled by the fact that he was watching/stalking me makes me consider this an assault.  I've explained this all before
LIC  but you are still on your quest to be right.  At this point I think you are just trying to stir shit up because you have nothing else better to do. 

I'll give you a task cause clearly you are bored:  Why not fix yourself that "award-winning" pulled pork sandwich you bragged about (but clearly Stef's recipe was better), hop on a hammock (preferably with holes in it), and contemplate for a while on why you don't even have a decent slaw to add to it.....and then after that go and make yourself a badge of honor reading "LIVIN' MY BEST LIFE"! Tack that onto your mustard/bbq sauce stained shirt, and call it a day!!! Woo hoo!  Another day in the tropics for LIC!
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Colburnnn on June 05, 2020, 07:19:51 am
Wasn't assault. Was home invasion, trespassing, indecent exposure, intimidation.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Stefaneekaye on June 05, 2020, 07:53:58 am
Coupled by the fact that he wasn't alarmed in any way when I did make eye contact with him.  Didn't move/wasn't phased at all.  He kept on masturbating, not breaking eye contact at all.  He didn't run away....There was no way my friend and I could escape..he was blocking the only viable way out....If my friend wasn't there in my heart of hearts I do feel like he would have "properly" assaulted me. His behavior was escalating.

These actions, tripled by the fact that he was watching/stalking me makes me consider this an assault.  I've explained this all before
LIC  but you are still on your quest to be right.  At this point I think you are just trying to stir shit up because you have nothing else better to do. 

I'll give you a task cause clearly you are bored:  Why not fix yourself that "award-winning" pulled pork sandwich you bragged about (but clearly Stef's recipe was better), hop on a hammock (preferably with holes in it), and contemplate for a while on why you don't even have a decent slaw to add to it.....and then after that go and make yourself a badge of honor reading "LIVIN' MY BEST LIFE"! Tack that onto your mustard/bbq sauce stained shirt, and call it a day!!! Woo hoo!  Another day in the tropics for LIC!

Annnnnd I just choked on my lemonade laughing. XD

I am honored that you think so highly of my pulled pork and thoroughly amused at how little you think of LIC in this post. 

I want to note that a lot of the naysayers seems to be focused entirely on physical assault. But that isn't the only form of assault. Verbal assaults and acts that threaten physical harm, such as him posturing himself in a way that made her believe he would have sexually assaulted her if she was alone, whether such harm is perpetrated or not, constitute assault in a court of law -- I say this as a person that spent the last year preparing for and taking a sexual assaulter to court, researching the different definitions of assault, and what ramifications would be held against him at different levels depending on which specific allegations they decided to use.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: fka on June 05, 2020, 10:50:51 am
I really did my best to avoid getting into this, but screw it.

Another homework task:

1. Look up "definitions of sexual assault"
2. Realize that the definition varies between jurisdictions and is quite expansive in some cases
3. Conclude that there are most likely some jurisdictions in which this incident could qualify as sexual assault
4. Stop insisting that because the incident doesn't match the definition that you carried to the conversation, only your definition matters
5. Reward yourself with a pulled pork sandwich for learning something new and becoming a bit less of an asshole
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Colburnnn on June 05, 2020, 11:31:24 am
Well, like I said a few pages back. Crimes need definitions otherwise the appropriate punishment cannot be applied.

I agree with your post in principle though.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: tylerthegloob on June 05, 2020, 11:54:49 am
4. Stop insisting that because the incident doesn't match the definition that you carried to the conversation, only your definition matters
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: shanebarry1986 on June 05, 2020, 11:59:15 am
You'd use physical violence on someone because they didn't believe some anecdote you told them?

Martino and Aristocrat are Serious Internet Tough guys. Full time keyboard warriors. I'd love to take them both out for a few pints with my mates in Pyeongtaek. See how quick they were to throw hands after their honor gets insulted by a war machine.

Fellas who are actually quick to jump in don't feel the need to constantly state this on the internet. Only scaredy little boys whose ultimate fantasy is standing up for themselves for the first time in their lives do that.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: stoat on June 05, 2020, 12:02:55 pm
Do you not feel a bit in awe when you read about all the different forms of weight training Aristocrat does? If not, you're a braver man than me.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: CO2 on June 05, 2020, 12:05:03 pm
Do you not feel a bit in awe when you read about all the different forms of weight training Aristocrat does? If not, you're a braver man than me.

Pistol squat pump at my gym at all times
They can be fukking with other waygs shiit, but they can't be fukking with mine
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on June 05, 2020, 02:23:34 pm
Martino and Aristocrat are Serious Internet Tough guys. Full time keyboard warriors. I'd love to take them both out for a few pints with my mates in Pyeongtaek. See how quick they were to throw hands after their honor gets insulted by a war machine.

Fellas who are actually quick to jump in don't feel the need to constantly state this on the internet. Only scaredy little boys whose ultimate fantasy is standing up for themselves for the first time in their lives do that.
If you talk about a serious event in a serious manner and someone calls you a liar and sneers at you, that's going to puss you the f off.

Second, they just called you out and essentially said "You're a bitch" in front of everyone. Those are fighting words. They do that once, they'll do it again and again. What, you think his reaction to being called a liar would be "Well sir, you are an uncouth rapscallian, unfit for polite company!"

All that being said, I would likely lose and end up in the hospital. If I didnt slip and fall and knock myself out first! I'm no tough guy and I'm not a fighter, but I know when to stand up for myself.

Anyways, these sorts of things can be good. They help friends sort things out. A man who has never fought at least one of his good friends and been better friends after is either a saint or a coward.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Liechtenstein on June 05, 2020, 03:00:06 pm
Coupled by the fact that he wasn't alarmed in any way when I did make eye contact with him.  Didn't move/wasn't phased at all.  He kept on masturbating, not breaking eye contact at all.  He didn't run away....There was no way my friend and I could escape..he was blocking the only viable way out....If my friend wasn't there in my heart of hearts I do feel like he would have "properly" assaulted me. His behavior was escalating.

These actions, tripled by the fact that he was watching/stalking me makes me consider this an assault.  I've explained this all before
LIC  but you are still on your quest to be right.  At this point I think you are just trying to stir shit up because you have nothing else better to do. 

I'll give you a task cause clearly you are bored:  Why not fix yourself that "award-winning" pulled pork sandwich you bragged about (but clearly Stef's recipe was better), hop on a hammock (preferably with holes in it), and contemplate for a while on why you don't even have a decent slaw to add to it.....and then after that go and make yourself a badge of honor reading "LIVIN' MY BEST LIFE"! Tack that onto your mustard/bbq sauce stained shirt, and call it a day!!! Woo hoo!  Another day in the tropics for LIC!

hahahahaha....wow.. ..the anger, bitterness and jealousy are strong in this one

Clearly better? So you've eaten both then? And thus your diatribe falls to ashes......

Did you even try to leave? It was not assault. Deal with it.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Stefaneekaye on June 05, 2020, 03:19:43 pm
hahahahaha....wow....the anger, bitterness and jealousy are strong in this one

Clearly better? So you've eaten both then? And thus your diatribe falls to ashes......

Did you even try to leave? It was not assault. Deal with it.

Did. You. Even. Try. To. Leave.

How many times have I heard that? How many times have I heard, "Did you yell more, fight back, force your way away? Why didn't you force harder?"

And here is where I ask you, have you ever had someone larger than you overpower you? When you fought back were you hit violently, knowing you would be covering bruises with makeup, fearing for you life as they hold you down by the throat?

Did you try to leave?

That question is irrelevant to the 'legitimacy' of an assault. And it is sickening. After being raped when I was 20 and experiencing all of the above, I was diagnosed with PTSD. When I have been assaulted about a handful of times since then over the last ten years, my brain freezes and goes into panic overload of anxiety bombarding me with too much input. I can't move, I have difficulty breathing, thinking, anything - because I am scared of the abuse happening again. If I escalate the situation, I may end up violently abused again. So I get out at quickly as I can but it takes a while.

dippedinblush already stated her and her friend ran on to the balcony and shouted for help in her retelling of the story. She left in the way she could without walking toward the aggressor who had broken into her apartment and was masturbating while watching her. She chose the option of less escalation by not engaging the man in her apartment. That doesn't change the event, legitimacy of what occurred, or how awful it was.

My inaction out of fear to not scream or hit my assaulter(s) was not consent nor was it somehow an expression that their assault on me was anything less than what it was. Congrats on one of the most disgusting and thoughtless comments I've ever read on here.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on June 05, 2020, 07:24:24 pm
Clearly better? So you've eaten both then? And thus your diatribe falls to ashes...Ö (said by LIC)...**** me and the quoting system...hahah

Ok so I'll tackle the pulled pork thing.   IMHO  I think both your recipes are good (for the pulled pork).  I prefer hers because there is a simplicity to it in that it should be eaten with her crunchy refreshing slaw.  As to yours, I don't think adding aged cheddar is a good choice, because it would just be too rich, and there wouldn't be any contrasting flavors or textures.  There...and no, I haven't tried yours or hers, but I would prefer hers over yours cause yours would be too rich and unbalanced.  It would be like eating a pork mush sammie.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: dippedinblush on June 05, 2020, 07:50:12 pm
LIC as for your other comments about jealousy etc.......NO.  I am not jealous, but I do have a bitter feeling towards you because you can not seem to see beyond your own nose.  You see in black and white and that's what children do, not adults.  When adults think in black and white there are dangerous consequences.  I'm sure you have experienced that with your own family, and that is perhaps why you have sequestered yourself with you and your boys and your Heinz products in the tropics.

For me, I think you are just an idiot troll, but for someone like Stef, I think you really crossed the line, cause you seem to think the victim is always to blame, and you triggered the **** out of her....and I suppose you are happy about that, cause that is your MO!  You show no empathy for anyone at all...you just push and push. 

God forbid any woman/women in your family be assaulted...they would be greeted with a ridiculous slack-jawed apathetic face, blaming them for not retreating fast enough, nor fighting 'til the death.   That badge of honour looks good on you now (I knew you would wear it proudly ;)....Apparently after your daily pulled pork you are now criticizing and proclaiming judgement on all victims from atop your coconut tree. 

#pullingmyporkinthetropix   #livinmabestlyfe   #brosbeforehos  #youdidnttrytoleave  #Heinz 
Title: Re: Flashing/
Post by: L I on January 06, 2021, 08:46:20 am
It's still pretty common for people to conflate rape with sexual assault, which is I guess why so many seem so skeptical about the 20% stat.

And what is sexual assault?

A creepy and/or ugly guy asked me for my phone number.

Someone who I find unattractive stared at my chest.

A peeping Tom touched himself while looking at me. (Iíve heard that one classified as sexual assault on here before.)

A guy flashed me.

A drunk guy at a club came up behind me on the dance floor and started grinding on me.

All of these could be considered sexual assault. Are they? Iím not sure. There are gradations to sexual assault.
Title: Re: Re: Flashing/
Post by: Kyndo on January 06, 2021, 08:53:14 am
Check the wiki page if you're uncertain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault
The information is there, relevant and up-to-date.
If you're still uncertain about what-is and what-is-not classified as sexual-assault, it's because of apathy, not because the information is unavailable.
Title: Re: Re: Flashing/
Post by: L I on January 06, 2021, 09:00:37 am
Ok, I clicked the link. The first sentence reads, ď Sexual assault is an act in which a person intentionally sexually touches another person without that person's consent, or coerces or physically forces a person to engage in a sexual act against their will.Ē

So why did our forum agree a forum member was sexually assaulted by a peeping Tom (who didnít touch her).? Was that sexual assault? (Her eyes were assaulted by seeing a creep.)
Title: Re: Re: Flashing/
Post by: CallinIn on January 06, 2021, 09:06:26 am
Ok, I clicked the link. The first sentence reads, ď Sexual assault is an act in which a person intentionally sexually touches another person without that person's consent, or coerces or physically forces a person to engage in a sexual act against their will.Ē

So why did our forum agree a forum member was sexually assaulted by a peeping Tom (who didnít touch her).? Was that sexual assault? (Her eyes were assaulted by seeing a creep.)

It also says that a TYPE of sexual assault is sexual harassment. To which I am of the opinion that walking into a strangers home to pleasure yourself to them without their consent is pretty intimidating and scary [of a sexual nature], so therefore WOULD be considered sexual assault.
Title: Re: Re: Flashing/
Post by: stoat on January 06, 2021, 09:09:28 am
Quote

If you're still uncertain about what-is and what-is-not classified as sexual-assault, it's because of apathy, not because the information is unavailable.     

No, it might be because the terms used have a degree of ambiguity. E.g. 'sexually touching'. Is a hand on the knee/shoulder/back of the neck a sexual assault? Some say yes, others no.
Title: Re: Re: Flashing/
Post by: L I on January 06, 2021, 09:11:54 am
CallinIn, itís burglary, trespassing, obscenity, sexually harassment (and maybe some others) all of which are serious charges... but sexual assault if no physical contract has been made? Might not fit the definition according to Korean law.
Title: Re: Re: Flashing/
Post by: CallinIn on January 06, 2021, 09:20:25 am
Might not fit the definition according to Korean law.

I'm speaking in regards to the Wiki page though??? Your response was to the Kyndo's post about the wiki, and then formed questions by comparing a previous discussion to the definition provided by the wiki.
Did I say "According to Korean Law?"  No.
Speaking in reference to the Wiki, it lists sexual harassment as a type of sexual assault. So in regards to the wiki, it is correct to label the creepy peeping tom case as a sexual assault.
So what's you complaint with what I said, exactly?
Title: Re: Re: Flashing/
Post by: L I on January 06, 2021, 09:29:54 am
Assault:
make a physical attack on
a physical attack

(This is what a dictionary says.)
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Itís difficult to say what exactly sexually assault is. There are a lot of gray areas. And some sexual assaults are worse than others.

Title: Re: Re: Flashing/
Post by: Kyndo on January 06, 2021, 09:40:07 am
No, it might be because the terms used have a degree of ambiguity. E.g. 'sexually touching'. Is a hand on the knee/shoulder/back of the neck a sexual assault? Some say yes, others no.
Oh, that's totally true. The details are definitely hazy. Human interactions are complex, and nuances of intention, context, and culture are incredibly hard to quantify and qualify. This makes a definitive, comprehensive definition for sexual assault literally impossible.

However, the broad strokes are pretty clear on what is and what is not considered sexual assault. Conflating the term with only rape, or sexual violence is clearly incorrect: they are just 2 of the more extreme subcategories. As Li mentions, there are many different kinds, and they vary in severity.

   LI's above comments are interesting, as the textbook definition states that sexual assault includes any unwanted sexual contact or threats, but what counts as a threat varies from country to country, or even from province to province within the same country.
   ...and to answer LI's question, yes one can be prosecuted for sexual assault in Korea without physically touching anybody. For example, making and distributing videos of sexual acts is considered to be a form of sexual assault, which is one reason why porn is technically illegal here.
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: Liechtenstein on January 06, 2021, 11:27:16 am
So, I have been attacked. That's okay. I do understand what it is like. It's sad about the poster who was raped. I understand the pain and anguish. I truly do.

I was 6 when my father's best friend molested me. I told my dad immediately. My dad went to the colonel. His best friend was arrested and charged. He was facing 20 years in a military prison and a dishonourable discharge. He hung himself that night in his cell.

The next day my father told me what had happened and shook my hand, man to man, and said "You did the right thing son."

All I could think of was, "I killed Uncle Don."

54 years have passed and I think about it every single stinking day.

I completely understand so back off with the insults. You don't know me and I don't want to know you. 
Title: Re: Flashing/"Burberry man"/ What's considered assault?
Post by: MayorHaggar on January 07, 2021, 05:30:57 am
This is called jumping the shark.