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Title: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: Cyanea on January 15, 2020, 11:46:44 pm
Just wondering.


If I come to work happy, it seems like the Koreans devote the whole day to trying to wipe the smile off my face.

If I come to work looking down, then they  say I have bad "gibun".


How are you supposed to win?
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: NorthStar on January 16, 2020, 06:34:28 am
Just wondering.


If I come to work happy, it seems like the Koreans devote the whole day to trying to wipe the smile off my face.

If I come to work looking down, then they  say I have bad "gibun".


How are you supposed to win?

I can relate.  Though, I don't thinking wining is an option. 

If those bitches are purposely trying to phuck with your mojo, create as much space between you and them...and ignore their sorry asses.  Koreans are petty little hobbits..there are experts at the cowards" game of passive aggressiveness.  There is no sense in pandering to them, or, trying to match them. 

Just ignore them...(or, clear wrap the toilet bowl).
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: Arsalan on January 16, 2020, 06:38:20 am
Keep smiling :-)
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: NorthStar on January 16, 2020, 06:53:41 am
Keep smiling :-)

"..keep shining, knowing you can always count on me....for sure....'cause I tell ya, that's what friends are for"
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: stoat on January 16, 2020, 07:14:40 am
Just remember it takes more muscles to frown than to smile :) And good manners don't cost nothing.
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: NorthStar on January 16, 2020, 07:19:51 am
Just remember it takes more muscles to frown than to smile :) And good manners don't cost nothing.

That is true...I agree wholeheartedly. 

The only drawback I see, is that nobody is perfect and sometimes, folks loose their shit on folks the OP is describing.  It is easier to keep a nice persona if folks are not PURPOSELY playing phuck-phuck games with you. 
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: Colburnnn on January 16, 2020, 07:37:09 am
I like sunshine, If someone is making it cloudy, get away from them and let it shine.
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: oglop on January 16, 2020, 07:39:56 am
Just remember it takes more muscles to frown than to smile :) And good manners don't cost nothing.
remember guys... live, laugh, love
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: thunderlips on January 16, 2020, 09:08:53 am
Just remember it takes more muscles to frown than to smile :) And good manners don't cost nothing.
remember guys... live, laugh, love

eat, shit, sleep
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: stoat on January 16, 2020, 09:12:08 am
If life seems jolly rotten, there's something you've forgotten. And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing.
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: CO2 on January 16, 2020, 09:12:32 am
eat, shit, sleep

Butter the toast, eat the toast, shit the toast.
God, life's relentless.
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: Datasapien on January 16, 2020, 09:17:25 am
If life seems jolly rotten, there's something you've forgotten. And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing.

 :laugh: sent me back to the song, too bladdy good!

힘내세요, Cyanea님, or 'cheer up!' as Koreans would say.
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: VanIslander on January 16, 2020, 09:42:49 am
Joy & misery should not be expressed.

Plod along, be stressed, grumble, look, at most, content. If you have to laugh, make it arrogantly at someone. Be assertive. Cheer quickly. Don't be satisfied.

It's the land of life is suffering (Buddhism) and right-wing Christianity (sin deserves its punishment; my **** don't stink).

Of course,... it's the middle of winter... this is a limited perspective. Locals are waaay different at beaches in summertime.

Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on January 16, 2020, 10:57:51 am
I can relate.  Though, I don't thinking wining is an option. 

If those bitches are purposely trying to phuck with your mojo, create as much space between you and them...and ignore their sorry asses.  Koreans are petty little hobbits..there are experts at the cowards" game of passive aggressiveness.  There is no sense in pandering to them, or, trying to match them. 

Just ignore them...(or, clear wrap the toilet bowl).
It's all THEIR fault. Always is.

No chance that Cyanea, he who constantly starts whiny negative threads, is at least somewhat responsible? I mean, he basically is accusing the Koreans of doing to him, what he does to waygook.org
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: NorthStar on January 16, 2020, 11:03:14 am
I can relate.  Though, I don't thinking wining is an option. 

If those bitches are purposely trying to phuck with your mojo, create as much space between you and them...and ignore their sorry asses.  Koreans are petty little hobbits..there are experts at the cowards" game of passive aggressiveness.  There is no sense in pandering to them, or, trying to match them. 

Just ignore them...(or, clear wrap the toilet bowl).
It's all THEIR fault. Always is.

No chance that Cyanea, he who constantly starts whiny negative threads, is at least somewhat responsible? I mean, he basically is accusing the Koreans of doing to him, what he does to waygook.org

You didn't address the attempts of the K-staff to purposely spoil a smile, which goes a long way in creating good vibes. 

I guess apologists fail to see things like that.  In regards to the OP, I don't know....I'm just commenting on what is presented.
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: oglop on January 16, 2020, 11:06:34 am
If I worked with cyanea, I'd be miserable too
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: confusedsafferinkorea on January 16, 2020, 11:09:13 am
If I worked with cyanea, I'd be miserable too

That's not nice, be kind always.
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on January 16, 2020, 11:27:41 am
You didn't address the attempts of the K-staff to purposely spoil a smile, which goes a long way in creating good vibes. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreliable_narrator

Just a hunch, but maybe someone who constantly posts negative threads about Korea, MIGHT be sending some of those negative vibes out to his coworkers and in fact, they're responding to that?

Speaking from experience, a lot of us, particularly Asian-Americans and Korean-Americans, we can pick up pretty quickly on "the haters" and the, I don't want to say racist, but the kind of people who always view Asians as slightly lesser and not fully individual human beings. It usually doesn't take long. Now that doesn't mean they can't be friends, because there's more to friendship than that. You may think that this doesn't happen much, and it doesn't. But it happens enough that it's not a complete rarity.

If you have that mindset, you probably give off that vibe.
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: NorthStar on January 16, 2020, 11:34:54 am
Quote
Speaking from experience, a lot of us, particularly Asian-Americans and Korean-Americans, we can pick up pretty quickly on "the haters" and the,

Or, you are just seeing what you WANT to see, to justify your narrative.

Go on Doc...you are on a roll.
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on January 16, 2020, 11:39:32 am
Or, you are just seeing what you WANT to see, to justify your narrative.

Go on Doc...you are on a roll.
I'm pretty live and let live and you know my political tendencies. Also, unlike most people, I don't think such attitudes are disqualifying from friendship.

But it's there. I'm sure you've gotten the reverse from Koreans. You know, those Koreans who don't really see you as a person, but just as some sort of biological amusement device there to entertain them? You can pick up on it right? Same thing the other way around.
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: NorthStar on January 16, 2020, 11:43:54 am
Or, you are just seeing what you WANT to see, to justify your narrative.

Go on Doc...you are on a roll.
I'm pretty live and let live and you know my political tendencies. Also, unlike most people, I don't think such attitudes are disqualifying from friendship.

But it's there. I'm sure you've gotten the reverse from Koreans. You know, those Koreans who don't really see you as a person, but just as some sort of biological amusement device there to entertain them? You can pick up on it right? Same thing the other way around.

I don't get upset over someone have a good day and purposely try to sabotage it...no.  That is MY culture. 
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on January 16, 2020, 11:56:37 am
I don't get upset over someone have a good day and purposely try to sabotage it...no.  That is MY culture.
I dunno, given what we've seen in the arguments and stuff that erupt between NETs and CTs and the gripes about Kpop and KTV, it seems plenty here like to rain on parades.

You really think westerners don't do office politics and bully and shit on other people to bring them down? Really? Look at internet trolling.
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: NorthStar on January 16, 2020, 12:05:03 pm
I don't get upset over someone have a good day and purposely try to sabotage it...no.  That is MY culture.
I dunno, given what we've seen in the arguments and stuff that erupt between NETs and CTs and the gripes about Kpop and KTV, it seems plenty here like to rain on parades.

You really think westerners don't do office politics and bully and shit on other people to bring them down? Really? Look at internet trolling.

This is because Kpoop is not a person, just trying to have a good day and start it off with a smile. 
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: Arsalan on January 16, 2020, 12:06:23 pm
(https://media.giphy.com/media/OvzMNfWETBoKQ/source.gif)
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: Jpdoescoffee on January 16, 2020, 12:10:21 pm
As a Korean American in Korea, the biggest teaching i had to give myself was to tell myself and believe in “bitch, i dont give a flying ****” (but minus the “bitch” cuz empower women lol).
Just gotta do you, and forget them Korean bs.
I know it’s much harder to actually believe and live this way. Even im still struggling everyday.
But can’t let the toxic korean society get to you
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: Mr C on January 16, 2020, 01:59:38 pm
Or, you are just seeing what you WANT to see, to justify your narrative.

Go on Doc...you are on a roll.
I'm pretty live and let live and you know my political tendencies.
Dude, you don't have political tendencies.  What you have is a pathology.

But, you are quite correct about the OP a few posts above.
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: MayorHaggar on January 16, 2020, 02:16:30 pm
Koreans fake their emotions so much. They'll smile all day long but you can tell when it's fake and when it's genuine. I think they feel threatened when Westerners are more likely to show their real emotions, like anger/boredom/happiness. Anyway you can try and be like Koreans and just ignore 99% of what Koreans say about you.
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: shanebarry1986 on January 16, 2020, 03:13:30 pm
Or, you are just seeing what you WANT to see, to justify your narrative.

Go on Doc...you are on a roll.
I'm pretty live and let live and you know my political tendencies.
Dude, you don't have political tendencies.  What you have is a pathology.

But, you are quite correct about the OP a few posts above.

Do you or gogators ever reply to someone with anything other than an ad hominem attack? Do you guys do the same thing in your personal and professional lives, or is it just on waygook? You have to know that it doesn't paint your personality or intellectual capacity in a favorable light, right?

Like, everything you say is a clear cut argument from fallacy. How does that not embarrass you?
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on January 16, 2020, 03:23:53 pm
Koreans fake their emotions so much. They'll smile all day long but you can tell when it's fake and when it's genuine. I think they feel threatened when Westerners are more likely to show their real emotions, like anger/boredom/happiness. Anyway you can try and be like Koreans and just ignore 99% of what Koreans say about you.
The first part I would agree with. There are expectations to have a certain outlook. Similar to 1950s "Perfect Home" personas or social media these days.

The second part about them being threatened or that westerners always show their real emotions is the "lets take the explanation that puts us in the best possible light and the one that puts them in the worst"kind of thinking that is far too common here.
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on January 16, 2020, 03:25:40 pm
I don't get upset over someone have a good day and purposely try to sabotage it...no.  That is MY culture.
I dunno, given what we've seen in the arguments and stuff that erupt between NETs and CTs and the gripes about Kpop and KTV, it seems plenty here like to rain on parades.

You really think westerners don't do office politics and bully and shit on other people to bring them down? Really? Look at internet trolling.

This is because Kpoop is not a person, just trying to have a good day and start it off with a smile. 

Well then enjoy
https://youtu.be/ITJlByULnhY

If you try to get me banned for this, I don't blame you... :wink:
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: Mr C on January 16, 2020, 04:09:21 pm
Or, you are just seeing what you WANT to see, to justify your narrative.

Go on Doc...you are on a roll.
I'm pretty live and let live and you know my political tendencies.
Dude, you don't have political tendencies.  What you have is a pathology.

But, you are quite correct about the OP a few posts above.

Do you or gogators ever reply to someone with anything other than an ad hominem attack? Do you guys do the same thing in your personal and professional lives, or is it just on waygook? You have to know that it doesn't paint your personality or intellectual capacity in a favorable light, right?

Like, everything you say is a clear cut argument from fallacy. How does that not embarrass you?
Sez you!
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: Mr C on January 16, 2020, 04:17:00 pm
Or, you are just seeing what you WANT to see, to justify your narrative.

Go on Doc...you are on a roll.
I'm pretty live and let live and you know my political tendencies.
Dude, you don't have political tendencies.  What you have is a pathology.

But, you are quite correct about the OP a few posts above.

Do you or gogators ever reply to someone with anything other than an ad hominem attack? Do you guys do the same thing in your personal and professional lives, or is it just on waygook? You have to know that it doesn't paint your personality or intellectual capacity in a favorable light, right?

Like, everything you say is a clear cut argument from fallacy. How does that not embarrass you?

A selection from your first page of comments:

Quote
Mate, you seriously need a vacation or something. Take care of yourself.

Dude, you are one vain, vacuous, shallow human.

I'll take a wild guess that you know as much about hunting as you do about politics.

Right. They are too busy learning about spelling, punctuation, capital letters etc. I know your country (the name of which you cannot spell) doesn't have the greatest education system, but that's not stopping you from picking up a book today, is it?

How soft are you? Tapioca? Velour? 

Your point was?

PS: See what you find on my first page...
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: shanebarry1986 on January 16, 2020, 04:52:07 pm
Or, you are just seeing what you WANT to see, to justify your narrative.

Go on Doc...you are on a roll.
I'm pretty live and let live and you know my political tendencies.
Dude, you don't have political tendencies.  What you have is a pathology.

But, you are quite correct about the OP a few posts above.

Do you or gogators ever reply to someone with anything other than an ad hominem attack? Do you guys do the same thing in your personal and professional lives, or is it just on waygook? You have to know that it doesn't paint your personality or intellectual capacity in a favorable light, right?

Like, everything you say is a clear cut argument from fallacy. How does that not embarrass you?

A selection from your first page of comments:

Quote
Mate, you seriously need a vacation or something. Take care of yourself.

Dude, you are one vain, vacuous, shallow human.

I'll take a wild guess that you know as much about hunting as you do about politics.

Right. They are too busy learning about spelling, punctuation, capital letters etc. I know your country (the name of which you cannot spell) doesn't have the greatest education system, but that's not stopping you from picking up a book today, is it?

How soft are you? Tapioca? Velour? 

Your point was?

PS: See what you find on my first page...

You.... you literally just.... you just.... you actually replied with an argumentum ad hominem. I.... have no words. You've moved me from agnostic to atheist, congratulations.
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: NorthStar on January 16, 2020, 05:01:57 pm
Or, you are just seeing what you WANT to see, to justify your narrative.

Go on Doc...you are on a roll.
I'm pretty live and let live and you know my political tendencies.
Dude, you don't have political tendencies.  What you have is a pathology.

But, you are quite correct about the OP a few posts above.

Do you or gogators ever reply to someone with anything other than an ad hominem attack? Do you guys do the same thing in your personal and professional lives, or is it just on waygook? You have to know that it doesn't paint your personality or intellectual capacity in a favorable light, right?

Like, everything you say is a clear cut argument from fallacy. How does that not embarrass you?

A selection from your first page of comments:

Quote
Mate, you seriously need a vacation or something. Take care of yourself.

Dude, you are one vain, vacuous, shallow human.

I'll take a wild guess that you know as much about hunting as you do about politics.

Right. They are too busy learning about spelling, punctuation, capital letters etc. I know your country (the name of which you cannot spell) doesn't have the greatest education system, but that's not stopping you from picking up a book today, is it?

How soft are you? Tapioca? Velour? 

Your point was?

PS: See what you find on my first page...

You.... you literally just.... you just.... you actually replied with an argumentum ad hominem. I.... have no words. You've moved me from agnostic to atheist, congratulations.

What just happened, here?
Title: Re: Is it a crime to look happy in Korea?
Post by: Mr C on January 16, 2020, 05:45:55 pm

Do you or gogators ever reply to someone with anything other than an ad hominem attack? Do you guys do the same thing in your personal and professional lives, or is it just on waygook? You have to know that it doesn't paint your personality or intellectual capacity in a favorable light, right?

Like, everything you say is a clear cut argument from fallacy. How does that not embarrass you?

A selection from your first page of comments:

Quote
Mate, you seriously need a vacation or something. Take care of yourself.

Dude, you are one vain, vacuous, shallow human.

I'll take a wild guess that you know as much about hunting as you do about politics.

Right. They are too busy learning about spelling, punctuation, capital letters etc. I know your country (the name of which you cannot spell) doesn't have the greatest education system, but that's not stopping you from picking up a book today, is it?

How soft are you? Tapioca? Velour? 

Your point was?

PS: See what you find on my first page...

You.... you literally just.... you just.... you actually replied with an argumentum ad hominem. I.... have no words. You've moved me from agnostic to atheist, congratulations.
You are aware that each of those comments of yours is an ad hominem attack, right?  You just complained that I had made an ad hominem attack--not even one against you.  I just kind of thought you might be embarrassed by your hypocrisy and, y'know, go away or something.

To be crystal clear, in the last 20 of your posts, you committed five attacks on individuals (plus one on Irish women that we won't count).  In my previous 20 posts, I referred negatively to DMT's political "tendencies" and called him clueless (which he has called me a hundred times)--so, at most two.

"First cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."