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Title: JM English Academy and Simson Language School?
Post by: mx8 on November 06, 2019, 05:31:21 am
Has anyone worked at either J.M in Songpa or Simson in Gwangjin? I've been offered contracts with both, same pay, similar benefits, slightly different hours, but I haven't seen very much about either online aside from one kinda bad review of JM. I would greatly appreciate any information!
Title: Re: JM English Academy and Simson Language School?
Post by: mx8 on November 11, 2019, 06:18:34 am
I have taken the position with JM (fingers crossed that it's good) and I'll try to update this once I've started working there so that people in the future have some information!
Title: Re: JM English Academy and Simson Language School?
Post by: NorthStar on November 11, 2019, 11:32:39 am
I have taken the position with JM (fingers crossed that it's good) and I'll try to update this once I've started working there so that people in the future have some information!

Good luck.

Are you in your home country or in Korea? 
Title: Re: JM English Academy and Simson Language School?
Post by: mx8 on November 12, 2019, 03:19:19 am
I have taken the position with JM (fingers crossed that it's good) and I'll try to update this once I've started working there so that people in the future have some information!

Thank you.

Currently I am in my home country, I will be heading to Korea in February and starting in March.

Good luck.

Are you in your home country or in Korea? 
Title: Re: JM English Academy and Simson Language School?
Post by: Cohort 2019 on November 12, 2019, 06:39:03 am
Sounds a bit like your ordinary Korean hakwon run by people with 0 educational acumen but whatever, I'm getting a bit beaten down lately by the never ending stream of 'suckiness' surrounding these hakwons. Not having any adult male teachers around is funest to a child's early development, but hey, what do I know, right? What do those early years matter anyhow? :rolleyes:

video
https://cafe.naver.com/jmkidsenglish/5790

All female staff
https://cafe.naver.com/jmkidsenglish/5784

infuriating detail: the Korean teachers make 2,6-2,8 mill.  ;D

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ThatGuy2983
4 points

1 year ago
I used to work at JM for a year. Not worth it. The boss is a crazy lady and her mom is rather strange too. They both belong to a nearby church and will use every opportunity to try and get you i to the church. If you say no or go to a different church, they will push you out. They now only hire females (I was one of the last rounds of male teachers brought in). During my round she asked a co-teacher to work under severe medical issues and was even willing to try and take pay/other forms of payment from her in order to make her work instead of taking/sending her to the hospital which was two and a half blocks down the street(before the rest of us banded together and stated this was not acceptable). Beyond that, itís micromanaged and the Korean teachers are put under so much stress, which then translates to all of the foreign teachers as well.

(http://cfile216.uf.daum.net/image/2353FA4C51B5A5A324F1B4)
Title: Re: JM English Academy and Simson Language School?
Post by: NorthStar on November 12, 2019, 07:41:25 pm
Sounds a bit like your ordinary Korean hakwon run by people with 0 educational acumen but whatever, I'm getting a bit beaten down lately by the never ending stream of 'suckiness' surrounding these hakwons. Not having any adult male teachers around is funest to a child's early development, but hey, what do I know, right? What do those early years matter anyhow? :rolleyes:

video
https://cafe.naver.com/jmkidsenglish/5790

All female staff
https://cafe.naver.com/jmkidsenglish/5784

infuriating detail: the Korean teachers make 2,6-2,8 mill.  ;D

Quote
ThatGuy2983
4 points

1 year ago
I used to work at JM for a year. Not worth it. The boss is a crazy lady and her mom is rather strange too. They both belong to a nearby church and will use every opportunity to try and get you i to the church. If you say no or go to a different church, they will push you out. They now only hire females (I was one of the last rounds of male teachers brought in). During my round she asked a co-teacher to work under severe medical issues and was even willing to try and take pay/other forms of payment from her in order to make her work instead of taking/sending her to the hospital which was two and a half blocks down the street(before the rest of us banded together and stated this was not acceptable). Beyond that, itís micromanaged and the Korean teachers are put under so much stress, which then translates to all of the foreign teachers as well.

(http://cfile216.uf.daum.net/image/2353FA4C51B5A5A324F1B4)

I would hate working there..being the only guy.  An obvious reason some hagwons prefer females is that they are easier to push around. 

Anyway....eeekkk... .
Title: Re: JM English Academy and Simson Language School?
Post by: mx8 on November 13, 2019, 10:32:12 am
Yeah I did see that post on Reddit and it sounds really unfortunate but it's one of only two negative posts I've seen, both from a couple of years ago (and the other one wasn't even that bad) so I guess I'm going to have to stay hopeful (though goodness the song in that video was dreadful). I talked to two of the current teachers and both said that they aren't religious and it hasn't ever been an issue (it is a Christian school though, which is why I asked about it in the first place, but evidently that fact doesn't impact the curriculum NETs are expected to teach outside of like having students write letters to Santa).

They offered me what I was asking for and answered my litany of questions before I signed so I'm hopeful it will be a positive experience.

While I do think that no job is gendered, and schools should definitely hire men and women as teachers, most women in my experience aren't "easier to push around" and I'm certainly not so that isn't a worry. I was more concerned about blatant abuses like you hear about in some hagwons.
Title: Re: JM English Academy and Simson Language School?
Post by: Cohort 2019 on November 17, 2019, 10:19:50 pm
Good to hear they're nice folks.

Northstar and I are old and grumpy and our default position is one of extreme caution. I am even farther away on that scale, recommending to only stay for a few years max., so one should have a clear goal and an exit strategy before even contemplating working at kindergarten schools in Korea.

Do tell us how things went after a few months, it might benefit future applicants as well.

All the best to you and here's hoping you will become a ♩ ♪ Promise and a Possibility ♫ ♬ like in the song!  :azn:
Title: Re: JM English Academy and Simson Language School?
Post by: NorthStar on November 18, 2019, 06:58:45 pm
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Good to hear they're nice folks.

Northstar and I are old and grumpy and our default position is one of extreme caution. I am even farther away on that scale, recommending to only stay for a few years max., so one should have a clear goal and an exit strategy before even contemplating working at kindergarten schools in Korea.

Do tell us how things went after a few months, it might benefit future applicants as well.

All the best to you and here's hoping you will become a ♩ ♪ Promise and a Possibility ♫ ♬ like in the song!

BUT..realistic. 

Title: Re: JM English Academy and Simson Language School?
Post by: jd7 on October 07, 2020, 01:38:26 am
I have taken the position with JM (fingers crossed that it's good) and I'll try to update this once I've started working there so that people in the future have some information!

Hi,

It's been about a year since you posted about accepting your offer from JM. I wanted to know what are your thoughts about the school now?
Title: Re: JM English Academy and Simson Language School?
Post by: kr8234824 on October 20, 2020, 09:45:25 am
Hi,

It's been about a year since you posted about accepting your offer from JM. I wanted to know what are your thoughts about the school now?

Hi,

I'm not OP and I know this thread is old, but I worked at JM English within the last 3 years and I had a very unpleasant experience with this school. During contract negotiations, one (of very few) teachers who renewed their contract did it simply because JM was "the devil we know." Frankly, I can not imagine another reason why you would renew a contract here.

I had a lot of fun with my class because my students were angels. But, you will find sweet students elsewhere.

Good luck in your search...  파이팅!
Title: Re: JM English Academy and Simson Language School?
Post by: Getsome on October 23, 2020, 11:11:09 pm
Hi,

I'm not OP and I know this thread is old, but I worked at JM English within the last 3 years and I had a very unpleasant experience with this school. During contract negotiations, one (of very few) teachers who renewed their contract did it simply because JM was "the devil we know." Frankly, I can not imagine another reason why you would renew a contract here.

I had a lot of fun with my class because my students were angels. But, you will find sweet students elsewhere.

Good luck in your search...  파이팅!


...pretty much the overall, defining narrative of working in Korea, with Koreans.  But, they are not significant enough to be considered on par with the Devil.  They are just regressive people who enjoy trying to have the smallest amount of power over others.
Title: Re: JM English Academy and Simson Language School?
Post by: babyghost on November 07, 2020, 09:51:45 am
Hey folks,

I have an interview with them coming soon - what about working there was awful? I don't mind (dare I say prefer?) the hours Monday-Friday, and the main bummer I see is that I don't get a round trip flight home and the days off are miniscule. I see that the director woman isn't the most beloved person either? But anyway, if you would elaborate why you hated working there, that would be great for me! Thank you!
Title: Re: JM English Academy and Simson Language School?
Post by: Waygook47 on December 09, 2020, 03:11:03 am
The best advice is to talk to some teachers who work at the school now. People tend to only post when they are unhappy or have an ax to grind, especially if they are posting 3 to 5 years after they have worked at a place. Looking over this entire institute review forum, I see very few good reviews posted ever. Ask to talk to some of the current teachers, this will be your best indicator. If they decline, then maybe the reviews are right. If they provide you with the contacts, then you can address the points brought up in these reviews or any other concerns you may have.