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Title: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: hilsoo on October 22, 2019, 09:56:39 am
Hi guys, I tried searching for forums about this topic and couldn't find any. Was hoping to hear other people's experience about this topic. (this could sound like me venting, but either way any help or critique would benefit me)

I know there are a lot of forums about marrying a Korean girl as a westerner and the life choices that comes with it. Me and my girlfriend/fiance are planning to get married next year, but her parents are against it for legitimate concerns about me and my future (job stability/security and job location). Her parents doesn't like the fact any job that I (or any foreigner) get would be contract based. (her parents stance on this lightened up after I started working at an international/foreign school, I have an E7 visa)

The benefits of my fiance's job (middle/high school public school teacher) is that she will never lose her job (unless she does something to get herself on the news) and all the benefits of being a government worker. Because of her job, I am restricted to a city/province (not in Seoul). We will probably never go to America, because she would have to give up her career. (I gave mine up) My fiance isn't worried about my career and neither am I, but if I were her parents I would have the same questions about job security/stability. To sum it all up, at least for the foreseeable future, my life choices are restricted to a specific area and my life choices has to revolve around my fiance. (which I am all okay with)  So what's the beef? you might ask.

I was just looking for discussions/stories/forums of being married to a government worker (preferably male foreigner marrying a Korean girl). I guess a similar situation might be, marrying a Korean girl with her career being the priority. For example, maybe getting married to a Korean doctor or lawyer or other careers, where the girl can't give up her career. (not necessarily of one partner making more than the other, but a career a partner wouldn't give up easily)

To answer specific questions: How are your in-laws treating you? (if you live in the same city) How did your in-laws treat you? What are you doing for work? What's it like being away from home and knowing you will be in Korea for the long haul? There's a billion questions I could ask, I just want to hear your experiences/advice/criticism/suggestions etc.

Anybody can contribute and I am not specifically looking for people that are in a similar situation as I am, although that would help.
I hope I didn't offend anyone, not trying to. If I did, please let me know. Thanks for your responses. Cheers.

I'm 31 and she's 29 (international age). We dated for a little over 2 years and next year would make it 3 years, which is when we are planning to get married. (if this info helps paint a better picture of my situation)
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Liechtenstein on October 22, 2019, 10:08:32 am
Don't do it. Stay single.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Ronnie Omelettes on October 22, 2019, 10:19:39 am
First off congratulations on your upcoming marriage.  :smiley:

So far this seems the common reaction amongst most Korean parents when their child will marry someone else.  Don't worry, it happens in all-Korean marriages too.  The parents will worry about the person their child will marry, which seems to make sense.  I've known parents being against a marriage because they thought the guy was too old for their daughter (only 5 years difference, and both public school teachers). But if they've softened their stance already then that's good.   

The way to think about it, after your marriage, you can change to the F6 visa which would open you up to another world of opportunity if you're willing to work at it and the financial rewards are there.  If you meet aunties and uncles you'll probably be grilled about your salary, which is par the course.  Tell them how it is, then it's done.

I think pre and post-marriage treatment from the in-laws depends on how close you live to them.  If you're miles away then you'll probably only see them a minimum once or twice a year.  Once the wedding is done, their job is done.  Then you can get on with your life.  When you meet them, be smiley, kind and nice, remembering your Korean familial etiquette and you'll be grand. 

As for the future, who knows?  As your wife has a career, she's sorted.  Your reaction to living in Korea forever? Is different for all people.  Like I said, who knows what the future holds.  You could move abroad and she could get a job in a Korean school abroad.   Who knows? 
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Kyndo on October 22, 2019, 10:41:27 am
    Like Scrambled Eggs says, getting married to a Korean means that you'll suddenly have far more job possibilities and opportunities. F-visas are awesome, and can help mitigate the issue of being tied to a certain province. If you plan on staying long term in Korea, you might want to start looking at how to transition away from teaching at a public school (which doesn't provide a lot of long term stability), and look into more permanent ESL positions. Heck, there are a lot of threads floating around about people's experiences opening up study rooms, or even their own hagwons...
   In any case, it might be a good idea to start figuring out your options so that if, in a few years, all the EPIK jobs in your area evaporate, you wont be left jobless, hopeless, and fighting old men for scraps of cardboard to eke out those extra few 1000 won spending cash you'll need for the soju to stave of the indignity of your utter unemployability.... ..  :smiley:
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: MayorHaggar on October 22, 2019, 10:41:46 am
Most Koreans get fired from their "lifetime" jobs when they are in their mid-40's and they are forced to drive a taxi or run a fried chicken franchise until they are too old to work.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: theman3285 on October 22, 2019, 10:44:26 am
Her parents sound typically xenophobic. As you noted, job security isn't a concern for her, so they'll never have to worry about her financially.

Story time: My Korean girlfriend and I were dating for a couple of years. All the while she kept me secret, especially from her ultra conservative dad. We ran into her mom on the street a couple of times, and she seemed relatively chilled with the fact that her daughter had a foreign friend to help her with her English (lol). Dad was completely oblivious. Until she got pregnant, that is. First she told her mom, who threatened to come to my school and punch me in the face (no joke). Then, after psyching herself up for a week or two, she told her dad. He pretty much lost his shit for a day or two, but (by the grace of Jehova) came around eventually. Fast forward a year and everyone's okay, including our 4 month old daughter who brings nothing but joy to all of our lives (especially granddad, he can't get enough of her).

I'm not telling you to knock her up - that would be terrible advice. So take from it what you will.

We're acquainted with a few international couples in our town (the wives all hang out), one of whom is an EPIK teacher (male) married to a Korean public school teacher. He's been here for something like twelve years and has never been out of work. They have two kids and are doing fine. 
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: lhelena on October 22, 2019, 10:47:43 am
I would say as far as work, your life will be a lot easier once you get the F6 visa. You can do any job you want (as long as you're qualified enough to be hired) and even run private tutoring lessons which opens you up to a lot of extra income. As far as the family goes, that all takes time and how you present yourself to them. I'm meeting some of my husbands extended family for the first time this weekend. I'm super nervous, but if they like me they like me, if they don't they don't. They're extended family so we'll only see them at holidays anyway, but it will be nice to have more family here.

In my case, we know we will be moving back to the US in at least a year, so I don't have the same issue of his parents worrying about our salaries or careers. We've talked with them about why I want to go back when we are (I need to start grad school so I can work towards becoming a professor) and they know my husband is excited to make an amount of money that actually reflects his skills as a mechanic. It's really sad how little a mechanic makes in Korea tbh. Plus he will have the opportunity to get further education/certifications from some technical school he's looked at in the US. But I will also say my in-laws are extremely open minded people and are just happy to see us happy. They know we have a plan and will see it through together.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: thunderlips on October 22, 2019, 10:50:14 am
Yeah as others said youíll have more opportunities but an international school is a great job for here. Think long and hard if you want to be stuck here until your wife retires though... seriously. We are hoping to move back to the states next year. A big factor is quality of life here; pollution, xenophobia, disregard for safety/driving. But there are some pros about living here too.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: oglop on October 22, 2019, 11:04:55 am
Most Koreans get fired from their "lifetime" jobs when they are in their mid-40's and they are forced to drive a taxi or run a fried chicken franchise until they are too old to work.
not puublic school teachers though
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: PatrickBateman on October 22, 2019, 11:12:14 am
Stuck here for life?  Are you sure you are ready for that!?  She must be smoking hot.  Her parents are pissed because public school teachers are some of the highest on the desirability scale for successful Korean men.  Think doctor or dentist, someone making 10M a month at least.  But she is settling with an English teacher with no guaranteed stability.  A job that you will get replaced by a 23yr old blonde with no experience just because you passed 35 years of age and are now scary to the children. Do you speak Korean well?  That will help things tremendously.  Anyways I would never want to be trapped in this country passed the age of 40.  It's great while young but couldn't imagine dealing with the organized chaos and pollution at an older age.  Good luck to you lad.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: JNM on October 22, 2019, 01:00:14 pm
Whatís her post-child career plan?
That job-for-life only works if she wants it to.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: SPQR on October 22, 2019, 02:35:59 pm
I've had two Korean wives. So, here is some straight up shit:

1/  They make much better girlfriends than wives.

2/ About the most you can hope for these days is an F-6.
They upped the permanent resident visa to Topik Level 3.
So, unless you some kind of linguist, forget it.

3/  Koreans in general are avoiding marriage and kids.
Foreigners seem to be totally oblivious to the reasons
for this.  Maybe you should give it some serious thought.

4/  Because you can only get an F-6, your wife will always
have a nice power of divorcing you and terminating your
visa status. Nice

5/ On the brighter side, you can probably double or
triple your income without E-2 handcuffs.

6/  On the darker side, many Korean wives expect you
to give all your earnings to them.

Anyway, good luck.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: leaponover on October 22, 2019, 02:37:02 pm
Can't help reading this and thinking the things you are worried about should be the least of your worries.

Living with a Korean woman should be your #1 worry!

Forget in-laws, jobs, being in Korea for the rest of your life.  You are going to be living with a Korean woman.  That challenge will blow the rest of these away.  You should look into jumal bubu.  Might make everyone happy....
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: leaponover on October 22, 2019, 02:39:07 pm
I've had two Korean wives. So, here is some straight up shit:

1/  They make much better girlfriends than wives.

2/ About the most you can hope for these days is an F-6.
They upped the permanent resident visa to Topik Level 3.
So, unless you some kind of linguist, forget it.

3/  Koreans in general are avoiding marriage and kids.
Foreigners seem to be totally oblivious to the reasons
for this.  Maybe you should give it some serious thought.

4/  Because you can only get an F-6, your wife will always
have a nice power of divorcing you and terminating your
visa status. Nice

5/ On the brighter side, you can probably double or
triple your income without E-2 handcuffs.

6/  On the darker side, many Korean wives expect you
to give all your earnings to them.

Anyway, good luck.

+1 to this
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Ronnie Omelettes on October 22, 2019, 02:42:58 pm
4/  Because you can only get an F-6, your wife will always
have a nice power of divorcing you and terminating your
visa status. Nice

What the eff you talking about?  That is not true.  Your visa runs out, but your soon to be ex-wife would have no say over your visa being terminated unless it was for something terrible.   
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: SPQR on October 22, 2019, 02:48:10 pm
4/  Because you can only get an F-6, your wife will always
have a nice power of divorcing you and terminating your
visa status. Nice

What the eff you talking about?  That is not true.  Your visa runs out, but your soon to be ex-wife would have no say over your visa being terminated unless it was for something terrible.   

F-6 must be renewed every three years.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: SuperDoodle23 on October 22, 2019, 02:51:07 pm
I just got married to a Korean lady after 3 years of dating. I have repeatedly told her and her family that I want to leave Korea after 2 years.  I have told them this on several occasions. There is no way that I would marry someone here in Korea without having the option on the table to leave. I can tolerate Korea alright and I've been here for 5 years but there is no way in hell I'd want to raise a family with this pollution, the bali bali life style, and the insane housing costs. I also know of people who have tried to make a life here and one guy had the government come and take his house because they wanted to develop the property. Even my wife's family are currently fighting with the government trying to make a grab at their property.

Usually, when my in-laws make a positive point about Korea I will make a mental note and come back at them with something negative. I have to be extremely careful at how and when I say my complaints, but I try to make this a selling point. If they were to mention how much a Korean man would make I would probably say something like " Yeah, they would probably need to make that much to pay for housing. It is much more expensive to live here than where I am from. Where I am from we could have a huge house and yard for 1/4 the price of an apartment in Seoul " .  I will gladly let these other guys kill themselves so that they can pay a billion won for a shoebox and breathe polluted air half the year. I try to change the frame of the conversation. I mention to my father in law about how it can open up new opportunities for his business etc. As others have pointed out there is a good reason why many Koreans aren't having kids. I usually point to the in-laws these common problems that people go through and frame things as a way that their daughter and I can escape some of those hurdles if we need to.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Savant on October 22, 2019, 02:52:29 pm
4/  Because you can only get an F-6, your wife will always
have a nice power of divorcing you and terminating your
visa status. Nice

What the eff you talking about?  That is not true.  Your visa runs out, but your soon to be ex-wife would have no say over your visa being terminated unless it was for something terrible.   

F-6 must be renewed every three years.

Wrong.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: hilsoo on October 22, 2019, 02:57:40 pm
Whatís her post-child career plan?
That job-for-life only works if she wants it to.

True she works for as long as she want to. She said she has to hit an x number of years to receive the full government employment pension.
Her post child career is to work as a teacher/principal until she retires.
I can't remember the details, but we did talk about it. Korean teachers get 2 - 3 years of maternity leave at 60 percent of her salary. Korean English teacher (which she is)  can study abroad for 2 years at 50 % her salary. (those numbers are off the top of my head, but something like that) She plans on using whatever the school will give her. I guess the thing is for me is that I have to play second fiddle to whatever decisions she makes. Was wondering if anybody went through or will go through what I might go through.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: zola on October 22, 2019, 03:02:04 pm
I've had two Korean wives. So, here is some straight up shit:

1/  They make much better girlfriends than wives.

This could be just as true for women in general.

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2/ About the most you can hope for these days is an F-6.
They upped the permanent resident visa to Topik Level 3.
So, unless you some kind of linguist, forget it.

Topik 3 is hard. But you dont need to be a linguist. You need a concerted effort. Which is required to learn Korean regardless. And if he's staying here long term he really should aim for a decent language ability.

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3/  Koreans in general are avoiding marriage and kids.
Foreigners seem to be totally oblivious to the reasons
for this.  Maybe you should give it some serious thought.
For all the talk of gender inequality, maternity leave etc, the gist of it is Koreans suddenly understand that the social pressure to get married and have kids is easing off, for the first time ever. And so they are taking advantage of that. As with most things here, it's taken to the enth degree. So now NO ONE wants kids. Marriage and parenthood conditions arent that much worse then most other countries.


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4/  Because you can only get an F-6, your wife will always
have a nice power of divorcing you and terminating your
visa status. Nice

Is that true? I thought they had brought in protections for this as SE Asian women were being treated poorly by their husbands who held the visa over their heads forcing them to stay in abusive marriages.



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6/  On the darker side, many Korean wives expect you
to give all your earnings to them.

This is one I've heard from Korean men a lot. Who the Fark would agree to this? You know what I would say to my wife if she asked me to hand over my paycheck? "No." I'd expect the same if I asked her for the same.

A lot of, by the sounds of it, ball less guys get married to dragon women here. Marriage is marriage. The same rules apply weather it's here, back home, or where ever else: don't marry psychos. 



Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: oglop on October 22, 2019, 03:38:58 pm
yeah imagine giving your whole salary to your wife and having to beg for some pocket money
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: lhelena on October 22, 2019, 03:46:11 pm
I just got married to a Korean lady after 3 years of dating. I have repeatedly told her and her family that I want to leave Korea after 2 years.  I have told them this on several occasions. There is no way that I would marry someone here in Korea without having the option on the table to leave. I can tolerate Korea alright and I've been here for 5 years but there is no way in hell I'd want to raise a family with this pollution, the bali bali life style, and the insane housing costs. I also know of people who have tried to make a life here and one guy had the government come and take his house because they wanted to develop the property. Even my wife's family are currently fighting with the government trying to make a grab at their property.

Usually, when my in-laws make a positive point about Korea I will make a mental note and come back at them with something negative. I have to be extremely careful at how and when I say my complaints, but I try to make this a selling point. If they were to mention how much a Korean man would make I would probably say something like " Yeah, they would probably need to make that much to pay for housing. It is much more expensive to live here than where I am from. Where I am from we could have a huge house and yard for 1/4 the price of an apartment in Seoul " .  I will gladly let these other guys kill themselves so that they can pay a billion won for a shoebox and breathe polluted air half the year. I try to change the frame of the conversation. I mention to my father in law about how it can open up new opportunities for his business etc. As others have pointed out there is a good reason why many Koreans aren't having kids. I usually point to the in-laws these common problems that people go through and frame things as a way that their daughter and I can escape some of those hurdles if we need to.


Yeah my husband has always said he doesn't want to start a family here. He doesn't want our kids going through the Korean school system unless they choose to come back for college. The pollution and cost of housing is another reason I don't want to stay either. My health has taken a pretty fair plummet since moving here. So many sinus infections!
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Savant on October 22, 2019, 04:10:53 pm
yeah imagine giving your whole salary to your wife and having to beg for some pocket money

I give my wife half my salary but that's because a lot of our financial re-payments are in her name.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: oglop on October 22, 2019, 04:14:32 pm
yeah imagine giving your whole salary to your wife and having to beg for some pocket money

I give my wife half my salary but that's because a lot of our financial re-payments are in her name.
yeah same. i put half in our joint account. that's a big difference to giving your entire salary away though
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: zola on October 22, 2019, 04:21:29 pm
Giving/transferring money for financial obligations is fine. But I have a co-worker who gets an allowance for the month. He used to have a credit card with his wife but had it confiscated by her after a particularly big night.

Budgeting and controlled spending is fine and necessary. But treating your spouse like a child is fuked up. These conversations need to be had before marriage though.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: stoat on October 22, 2019, 04:27:13 pm
It depends on the dynamic in the household. In the past working men gave their wives their pay packet because the wives ran the household and all husbands needed was beer money. My wife isn't working right now so i'm happy to let her control the bulk of the money to buy food, pay bills look after the kid etc..i keep around 600,000 won for personal expenses. I trust her enough  not to insist she asks me everytime she needs more. That'd be pretty demeaning. It helps that I know she doesn't covet useless expensive crap like handbags
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: oglop on October 22, 2019, 04:39:44 pm
Giving/transferring money for financial obligations is fine. But I have a co-worker who gets an allowance for the month. He used to have a credit card with his wife but had it confiscated by her after a particularly big night.

Budgeting and controlled spending is fine and necessary. But treating your spouse like a child is fuked up. These conversations need to be had before marriage though.
well if he goes out and spends 300k every weekend, i'm on his wife's side. but yeah, you gotta sort these things out before marriage. i guess as long as everyone is happy it doesn't really matter
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Cohort 2019 on October 22, 2019, 06:33:04 pm
 :azn: Congrats on overcoming the family-side of things and your upcoming marriage!  :azn:

my gf.just  ended up breaking up with me when I fled the pollution. ;D
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: waygo0k on October 22, 2019, 07:21:48 pm
Congrats OP.

Perhaps you two could look into moving to Jeju. That way, she gets to keep her public school job, you get to work at an international school (visa free) and make some real money.

In a few years (with her raises) your combined yearly income would be well over 100mil...plus the advantage of living in a largely pollution-free environment.

But Iíd make sure I get an offer first before making that move though.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: SPQR on October 22, 2019, 08:20:00 pm
Congrats OP.

Perhaps you two could look into moving to Jeju. That way, she gets to keep her public school job, you get to work at an international school (visa free) and make some real money.

In a few years (with her raises) your combined yearly income would be well over 100mil...plus the advantage of living in a largely pollution-free environment.

But Iíd make sure I get an offer first before making that move though.

Jeju might be clean, but it is probably the most inconvenient place to live in Korea.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: waygo0k on October 22, 2019, 09:47:18 pm
In some ways, maybe...if youíre a party animal that craves the itaewon/hongdae lifestyle, Jeju probably wouldnít be for you.

Also, it can be a hassle getting out during peak travel periods because of the cost of flight tickets.

But in terms of everyday living, itís not to different from any mid-sized provincial city in Korea, with the added bonus of great beaches, clean air, minimal traffic and a stupendously well paid job with minimal living costs (assuming your work at an international school).

Not to mention the great environment your kid(s) would grow up in (international school education + campus setting etc).
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: guppy1000 on October 22, 2019, 11:34:23 pm
My points as someone who has been here for a long time.

1. Unless you want kids, do not get married.  There's no point.

2.  She will likely want to stay in Korea forever.  Can you handle being a non-person / outsider for the rest of your life?  The Koreans might smile at you on the street and call you handsome, but they really don't want you here.

The expat crowd starts thinning out pretty rapidly in the lows 30s.  Do you want to be in your 40s and 50's hanging out with people who are 25 at the expat bar?

3. F-6 visa does not mean automatic riches.  I know many F6's who make no more than regular E2s.   Beware of the people on these forums who love to exaggerate their income.   Many are full of it.

Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: CO2 on October 22, 2019, 11:58:14 pm
My points as someone who has been here for a long time.

The expat crowd starts thinning out pretty rapidly in the lows 30s.  Do you want to be in your 40s and 50's hanging out with people who are 25 at the expat bar?
Depends on who you are. If you're cool with banter and you know what people wanna talk about, you'll fit right in. If you preface everything by saying, "Well, I know and am the authoritative source on................. ." then no.


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3. F-6 visa does not mean automatic riches.  I know many F6's who make no more than regular E2s.   Beware of the people on these forums who love to exaggerate their income.   Many are full of it.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: VanIslander on October 23, 2019, 12:35:30 am
Do you want to be in your 40s and 50's hanging out with people who are 25 at the expat bar?
Depends on who you are. If you're cool with banter and you know what people wanna talk about, you'll fit right in.
Indeed.

Do you wanna be 50 and hang out with 55-60 year olds who talk about retirement, pains, children and b****ing about young people, or stay interested in the times and feel still thirtysomething, age being just a number.

As a 50 year old i feel totally different when with thirtysomethings than fiftysomethings. I much prefer the former.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: KimDuHan on October 23, 2019, 04:30:08 am
My points as someone who has been here for a long time.

1. Unless you want kids, do not get married.  There's no point.

2.  She will likely want to stay in Korea forever.  Can you handle being a non-person / outsider for the rest of your life?  The Koreans might smile at you on the street and call you handsome, but they really don't want you here.

The expat crowd starts thinning out pretty rapidly in the lows 30s.  Do you want to be in your 40s and 50's hanging out with people who are 25 at the expat bar?

3. F-6 visa does not mean automatic riches.  I know many F6's who make no more than regular E2s.   Beware of the people on these forums who love to exaggerate their income.   Many are full of it.



This is why you talk about things before you get married.

Kids, moving and jobs should be talked about before the knot gets tied.

I never get the people who marry and then get divorced because of kids and moving.

Lots of Koreans men and women will say they want to leave Korea up until the point it becomes a reality.  Then itís you want to change me or I want to stay close to my family.

If your potential spouse doesnít feel the same about kids and moving as you then honestly break up now, itís better than a divorce two years later.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: stoat on October 23, 2019, 07:19:39 am
Do you want to be in your 40s and 50's hanging out with people who are 25 at the expat bar?
Depends on who you are. If you're cool with banter and you know what people wanna talk about, you'll fit right in.
Indeed.

Do you wanna be 50 and hang out with 55-60 year olds who talk about retirement, pains, children and b****ing about young people, or stay interested in the times and feel still thirtysomething, age being just a number.

As a 50 year old i feel totally different when with thirtysomethings than fiftysomethings. I much prefer the former.

If age is just a number you shouldn't really be stereotyping 55-60 year olds. 
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: hilsoo on October 23, 2019, 07:55:20 am
Congrats OP.

Perhaps you two could look into moving to Jeju. That way, she gets to keep her public school job, you get to work at an international school (visa free) and make some real money.
Congrats OP.

Perhaps you two could look into moving to Jeju. That way, she gets to keep her public school job, you get to work at an international school (visa free) and make some real money.

In a few years (with her raises) your combined yearly income would be well over 100mil...plus the advantage of living in a largely pollution-free environment.

But Iíd make sure I get an offer first before making that move though.
In a few years (with her raises) your combined yearly income would be well over 100mil...plus the advantage of living in a largely pollution-free environment.

But Iíd make sure I get an offer first before making that move though.

Thank you for suggestions at congrats. The thing is she can't move to jeju or any other city/province, unless special requirements are met or she takes the teacher test again for that city/province. (she has no intention to move anywhere else or take the test again) My whole conundrum was that I am pretty much restricted to live and work in this city/province. (without commuting or weekend couple, which is what we are doing now) Its good that I am working at an international/foreign school, but it's an hour and 15 min drive from our place. I'm waiting for one school that is close by for a certain position (my teaching cert) to open up. (super competitive for that spot to...)  I have my short term plans somewhat figured out, but not sure how it'll turn out. to be continued ...
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Aristocrat on October 23, 2019, 08:03:45 am
Congrats, OP. Next year will be my 6th year of marriage (not to a Korean), but here's my advice.

1 - Make sure you both are completely on the same page for your short, medium and long-term plans.
2 - Discuss whether you'll have kids, if so, when. If neither of you can reach an agreement here, the marriage will almost certainly
      fail.
3 - If you're having kids, how will you raise them (Education, Hagwons, Religion etc.) again, make sure you're on the same page.
4 - Discuss pre-nups and/or what happens should you both split... uncomfortable, yes, but marriage is essentially a contract and
     this is a very important clause.
5 - With spouses from Asian, Indian and Middle-Eastern backgrounds, you're marrying the family just as much as you're marrying
     your spouse, assuming they're relatively traditional. Unlike Western cultures, where the wife/husband will take the side of
     their spouse over their parents, the backgrounds I mentioned are usually the reverse.
6 - You could certainly stick with teaching public school till you're 60, if that's what you want. I'm almost certain your POE will
     keep renewing you. Poor health seems to be the only reason they wouldn't renew a teacher.

Remember, neither of you are individuals anymore. You both function and work for the happiness of your family. 
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: oglop on October 23, 2019, 09:15:13 am

3. F-6 visa does not mean automatic riches.  I know many F6's who make no more than regular E2s.   Beware of the people on these forums who love to exaggerate their income.   Many are full of it.

how much you earn simply depends on how hard you wanna work (and if you live in seoul or not). but it does open more doors, for sure
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Savant on October 23, 2019, 09:46:55 am

3. F-6 visa does not mean automatic riches.  I know many F6's who make no more than regular E2s.   Beware of the people on these forums who love to exaggerate their income.   Many are full of it.

how much you earn simply depends on how hard you wanna work (and if you live in seoul or not). but it does open more doors, for sure

I'm happy with my easy 9-5 schedule making 3.2 million post tax. Wife wanted me to do more teaching but I pretty much enjoy my free time. I didn't want to get burned out so I said "I'll add an after school class if you want to do more of the house work that I do because I come earlier."

Still, finishing at 5.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Observer on October 23, 2019, 10:34:33 am
Ooooh, an interesting and thoroughly engaging thread! Aw, Waygook, every so often, still has it in it. Reminds me of the old days.

My only real contribution is to add to the caution about Westerners who take their Asian GF/BF/wife/husband at their word that they 'would love to move abroad.'

In my experience, this is delusion. Koreans are among the worst, but in reality very few Asians of any kind truly want to permanently relocate abroad, to the West or anywhere else. They want to live in their home countries. If they move it's usually to get something they want, such as a foreign degree, or to make money, or for a temporary opportunity in their profession (for example). And when they have it, the degree or the money or the experience, they move back. Or they are essentially forced by poverty/circumstances, such as the unfortunate SE Asian women who are married to Korean farmers.

The ones who do move permanently, like if they start their own business, they will settle down but if you talk to them, they often aren't very happy. They deal with it, they throw themselves into the business or their Western-born kids or whatever, but if you really talk to them, they will never lose the wish to be in their 'home,' which will absolutely never be the US or Canada or the UK or whatever. East Asians, Chinese and Japanese and Koreans, are the worst. SE Asians and S Asians, like Filipinos or Indians, have a bit easier time, in my experience.

The ones mentioned in this thread, who tell their foreign SOs that they are totally on board with moving--all I can is say is, beware of hearing what you want to hear, especially from young-ish women. They know how badly you want to go, likely. They also probably have a romantic fantasy of how it is to live abroad, from TV or YouTube or Instagram or whatever. They like the idea of having lived abroad, and of course they have a serious relationship with a foreigner (you!) and they haven't really considered the reality. Such as how difficult it is for them to get a decent job, or any job, the loss of their entire friend network, the distance from their family, the totally alien cultural behaviors...the different food, the loneliness, the boredom....lots of stuff. Even if they've studied abroad, for example, being in a formal program with housing and food and fellow Koreans around, probably in a big city, and with classes and internships and organized activities, is a WHOLE lot different from moving into some town or suburb that is 90% white, with nothing but the Internet to do all day.

Better to make your peace living over here and keep her/him happy ('happy wife, happy life') or marry a Westerner if you want to live in the West. When I get married, all I'm going to ask of her is that we can live for a while in different parts of Asia outside her home country, and visit the US once every year or two. Otherwise, I'm OK with the long-term expat life. Not what I thought I'd get at the start, but I've made my peace by now.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: oglop on October 23, 2019, 12:36:39 pm

3. F-6 visa does not mean automatic riches.  I know many F6's who make no more than regular E2s.   Beware of the people on these forums who love to exaggerate their income.   Many are full of it.

how much you earn simply depends on how hard you wanna work (and if you live in seoul or not). but it does open more doors, for sure

I'm happy with my easy 9-5 schedule making 3.2 million post tax. Wife wanted me to do more teaching but I pretty much enjoy my free time. I didn't want to get burned out so I said "I'll add an after school class if you want to do more of the house work that I do because I come earlier."

Still, finishing at 5.
that's fair. the nice thing about F visas is you can always pick up more classes, or drop them, depending on how you feel
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: hangook77 on October 23, 2019, 12:44:40 pm
One of the things about the wife being in charge of the money, let me tell you, there are actually a lot of liberal art grad guys, even some older guys who have no clue.  They know nothing about money or even simple things like insuring their deposits etc.  They "let their wife handle it".  Completely ignorant about money and financial stuff.  Shocking, I know.  So maybe letting their wife be in charge in some cases I guess works for them.  Though I did know a guy married to a bad Korean girl.  She was wild.  Borrowed money from loan sharks behind his back.  They had to split and move back to his home country to escape it.  They had to give up whatever money they had to appease some of them for a time. 

All I can say for most guys here is to pull their head of their arse and know what the hell's going on.  Give some money as an allowance if only one is working but keep in control of some of the money.  If you both are working, you both agree with set of bills to pay or what to save for.  (Sometimes, Koreans can get better deals and access to more financial items for saving investing with better rates, etc.) 

Yet these same liberal art grad with their "feelings" vote back home and f@k up the economies back home.  But that's for another thread. 
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: zola on October 23, 2019, 12:56:02 pm
Yet these same liberal art grad with their "feelings" vote back home and f@k up the economies back home.  But that's for another thread. 
Why are you the way that you are?
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: leaponover on October 23, 2019, 03:42:01 pm


This is one I've heard from Korean men a lot. Who the Fark would agree to this? You know what I would say to my wife if she asked me to hand over my paycheck? "No." I'd expect the same if I asked her for the same.

A lot of, by the sounds of it, ball less guys get married to dragon women here. Marriage is marriage. The same rules apply weather it's here, back home, or where ever else: don't marry psychos. 





You've heard it a lot because it's the norm.  My wife always takes a little dig at me when we make a big purchase and she says, "Why don't you pay some of your paycheck.  No Korean man keeps their money like you do".  Usually I just retort with, "I'm home every night and not partying with my mistress, so do you want me to be Korean or be myself?".

That usually ends it right there, but my wife isn't a psycho, that's the way things actually work here for the majority of couples.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: leaponover on October 23, 2019, 03:50:04 pm
Ooooh, an interesting and thoroughly engaging thread! Aw, Waygook, every so often, still has it in it. Reminds me of the old days.

My only real contribution is to add to the caution about Westerners who take their Asian GF/BF/wife/husband at their word that they 'would love to move abroad.'

In my experience, this is delusion. Koreans are among the worst, but in reality very few Asians of any kind truly want to permanently relocate abroad, to the West or anywhere else. They want to live in their home countries. If they move it's usually to get something they want, such as a foreign degree, or to make money, or for a temporary opportunity in their profession (for example). And when they have it, the degree or the money or the experience, they move back. Or they are essentially forced by poverty/circumstances, such as the unfortunate SE Asian women who are married to Korean farmers.

The ones who do move permanently, like if they start their own business, they will settle down but if you talk to them, they often aren't very happy. They deal with it, they throw themselves into the business or their Western-born kids or whatever, but if you really talk to them, they will never lose the wish to be in their 'home,' which will absolutely never be the US or Canada or the UK or whatever. East Asians, Chinese and Japanese and Koreans, are the worst. SE Asians and S Asians, like Filipinos or Indians, have a bit easier time, in my experience.

The ones mentioned in this thread, who tell their foreign SOs that they are totally on board with moving--all I can is say is, beware of hearing what you want to hear, especially from young-ish women. They know how badly you want to go, likely. They also probably have a romantic fantasy of how it is to live abroad, from TV or YouTube or Instagram or whatever. They like the idea of having lived abroad, and of course they have a serious relationship with a foreigner (you!) and they haven't really considered the reality. Such as how difficult it is for them to get a decent job, or any job, the loss of their entire friend network, the distance from their family, the totally alien cultural behaviors...the different food, the loneliness, the boredom....lots of stuff. Even if they've studied abroad, for example, being in a formal program with housing and food and fellow Koreans around, probably in a big city, and with classes and internships and organized activities, is a WHOLE lot different from moving into some town or suburb that is 90% white, with nothing but the Internet to do all day.

Better to make your peace living over here and keep her/him happy ('happy wife, happy life') or marry a Westerner if you want to live in the West. When I get married, all I'm going to ask of her is that we can live for a while in different parts of Asia outside her home country, and visit the US once every year or two. Otherwise, I'm OK with the long-term expat life. Not what I thought I'd get at the start, but I've made my peace by now.

This is a good point.  Waygookins here complain about Korea but it's not actually because it's Korea.  It's because it's not home.  Every time one thinks it's really hard to live here, that's exactly how an Asian will feel living abroad in  Western country.  That attitude "I'd never raise a family here" could easily be echoed by a Korean wife when living in the USA and all those things you talked about go out the door, because she was unequipped with the knowledge of what she was agreeing to.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: pkjh on October 23, 2019, 05:32:09 pm
Ooooh, an interesting and thoroughly engaging thread! Aw, Waygook, every so often, still has it in it. Reminds me of the old days.

My only real contribution is to add to the caution about Westerners who take their Asian GF/BF/wife/husband at their word that they 'would love to move abroad.'

In my experience, this is delusion. Koreans are among the worst, but in reality very few Asians of any kind truly want to permanently relocate abroad, to the West or anywhere else. They want to live in their home countries. If they move it's usually to get something they want, such as a foreign degree, or to make money, or for a temporary opportunity in their profession (for example). And when they have it, the degree or the money or the experience, they move back. Or they are essentially forced by poverty/circumstances, such as the unfortunate SE Asian women who are married to Korean farmers.

The ones who do move permanently, like if they start their own business, they will settle down but if you talk to them, they often aren't very happy. They deal with it, they throw themselves into the business or their Western-born kids or whatever, but if you really talk to them, they will never lose the wish to be in their 'home,' which will absolutely never be the US or Canada or the UK or whatever. East Asians, Chinese and Japanese and Koreans, are the worst. SE Asians and S Asians, like Filipinos or Indians, have a bit easier time, in my experience.

The ones mentioned in this thread, who tell their foreign SOs that they are totally on board with moving--all I can is say is, beware of hearing what you want to hear, especially from young-ish women. They know how badly you want to go, likely. They also probably have a romantic fantasy of how it is to live abroad, from TV or YouTube or Instagram or whatever. They like the idea of having lived abroad, and of course they have a serious relationship with a foreigner (you!) and they haven't really considered the reality. Such as how difficult it is for them to get a decent job, or any job, the loss of their entire friend network, the distance from their family, the totally alien cultural behaviors...the different food, the loneliness, the boredom....lots of stuff. Even if they've studied abroad, for example, being in a formal program with housing and food and fellow Koreans around, probably in a big city, and with classes and internships and organized activities, is a WHOLE lot different from moving into some town or suburb that is 90% white, with nothing but the Internet to do all day.

Better to make your peace living over here and keep her/him happy ('happy wife, happy life') or marry a Westerner if you want to live in the West. When I get married, all I'm going to ask of her is that we can live for a while in different parts of Asia outside her home country, and visit the US once every year or two. Otherwise, I'm OK with the long-term expat life. Not what I thought I'd get at the start, but I've made my peace by now.

This is a good point.  Waygookins here complain about Korea but it's not actually because it's Korea.  It's because it's not home.  Every time one thinks it's really hard to live here, that's exactly how an Asian will feel living abroad in  Western country.  That attitude "I'd never raise a family here" could easily be echoed by a Korean wife when living in the USA and all those things you talked about go out the door, because she was unequipped with the knowledge of what she was agreeing to.
If you talk to most immigrants that came in that 1960-1990 era, most of them went to the west to study, or make money, and planned on going back to their home countries. But, life happens they get a decent paying job, they meet someone (often meeting someone from their own country), marry, have kids, buy a house, and once the kids starts school it's pretty hard to pick up and go back home. Often I've heard immigrants from South Korea, Singapore, and Taiwan say things along the lines of "If I would have known how much my country would have developed, I would have never left."
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: gogators! on October 23, 2019, 07:12:34 pm
As far as marrying a Korean woman goes, marrying a public school teacher is like hitting the jackpot.

If you work hard at whatever it is you do, treat your wife well and respect Korean traditions on the big holidays, her parents will come around.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: oglop on October 23, 2019, 07:20:48 pm
Often I've heard immigrants from South Korea, Singapore, and Taiwan say things along the lines of "If I would have known how much my country would have developed, I would have never left."
well, that's probably because english isn't their first language. otherwise, they'd probably say, "if i have known how much my country would develop, i would never have left"
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: stoat on October 23, 2019, 07:34:07 pm
Often I've heard immigrants from South Korea, Singapore, and Taiwan say things along the lines of "If I would have known how much my country would have developed, I would have never left."
well, that's probably because english isn't their first language. otherwise, they'd probably say, "if i have known how much my country would develop, i would never have left"

You mean 'if I had known how much my country would develop, I would never have left"
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: fka on October 23, 2019, 07:54:35 pm
Often I've heard immigrants from South Korea, Singapore, and Taiwan say things along the lines of "If I would have known how much my country would have developed, I would have never left."
well, that's probably because english isn't their first language. otherwise, they'd probably say, "if i have known how much my country would develop, i would never have left"

You mean 'if I had known how much my country would develop, I would never have left"

Actually, I think you mean, "If I had known how much my country would develop, I would never have left."
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: oglop on October 23, 2019, 09:07:11 pm
Often I've heard immigrants from South Korea, Singapore, and Taiwan say things along the lines of "If I would have known how much my country would have developed, I would have never left."
well, that's probably because english isn't their first language. otherwise, they'd probably say, "if i have known how much my country would develop, i would never have left"

You mean 'if I had known how much my country would develop, I would never have left"
Had*

haha goddammit I triple checked I didn't typo too

bye, leaving this forum forever in shame
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: pkjh on October 23, 2019, 09:34:52 pm
she takes the teacher test again for that city/province
Supposedly full-time tenured public school teachers don't necessarily have to take the test again to transfer provinces. Provinces 'trade' teachers often because of being newly married, or a spouse being transferred because of work. However, I think it's only a handful being traded every semester, and it's like a waiting list, where seniority, and whatever subject they need, puts you at the top of the list.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Ronnie Omelettes on October 24, 2019, 06:47:22 am
Often I've heard immigrants from South Korea, Singapore, and Taiwan say things along the lines of "If I would have known how much my country would have developed, I would have never left."
well, that's probably because english isn't their first language. otherwise, they'd probably say, "if i have known how much my country would develop, i would never have left"

You mean 'if I had known how much my country would develop, I would never have left"
Had*

haha goddammit I triple checked I didn't typo too

bye, leaving this forum forever in shame

I'm going to start distancing myself from you now if that's okay?  Where were you from again?  France? 
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: oglop on October 24, 2019, 07:52:06 am
worse. scotland
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Ronnie Omelettes on October 24, 2019, 08:14:10 am
worse. scotland

Jesus.  Sorry to hear that.  It could be worse, you could be from Blackpool.  :-[
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: L I on December 08, 2019, 06:22:57 pm
Do you want to be in your 40s and 50's hanging out with people who are 25 at the expat bar?
Depends on who you are. If you're cool with banter and you know what people wanna talk about, you'll fit right in.

Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok, partying, clubbing, EDM, dj festivals, Cardi B, Cancun spring break, trap music....

Learn the words to the popular club bangers of the day so you can sing and dance along.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3xT5_je9BM

PERCOCETS, MOLLY, PERCOCETS
PERCOCETS, MOLLY, PERCOCETS
REP THE SET, GOTTA REP THE SET

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6F37L7vtyw

^^ You can introduce a song from when you were younger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPTlvQ1Zet0

Age ain't nothing but a number.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: VanIslander on December 08, 2019, 08:39:16 pm
Do you want to be 50 years old and hanging out with old people?

I am 50 and enjoy more hanging out with my 36-year-old bud than the 50+ year olds around here.

Maybe it's spending hours every day with children that makes me feel young.

Friends back home my age remind me more of my dad in his sixties and seventies.

Age is a state of mind. I used to scoff at that idea but i now get why it seems like it.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: L I on December 08, 2019, 08:55:42 pm
I agree. Exercise to stay in shape. Hang out with younger folk. Feel young. Be young. It's a state of mind.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: L I on December 09, 2019, 02:08:22 pm
yeah imagine giving your whole salary to your wife and having to beg for some pocket money

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Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: OnNut81 on December 09, 2019, 03:09:59 pm
yeah imagine giving your whole salary to your wife and having to beg for some pocket money

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Every time I see one of these Morning Clam comics posted, all I can think is there are people out there saying "It's funny because It's true."  "I have a Korean wife/gf and that is totally her.  She wants to have her cake and it eat it, too.  LOLS" 
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: TheBrownTeDDYBear on January 02, 2020, 09:18:58 am
I've had two Korean wives. So, here is some straight up shit:

1/  They make much better girlfriends than wives.

2/ About the most you can hope for these days is an F-6.
They upped the permanent resident visa to Topik Level 3.
So, unless you some kind of linguist, forget it.

3/  Koreans in general are avoiding marriage and kids.
Foreigners seem to be totally oblivious to the reasons
for this.  Maybe you should give it some serious thought.

4/  Because you can only get an F-6, your wife will always
have a nice power of divorcing you and terminating your
visa status. Nice

5/ On the brighter side, you can probably double or
triple your income without E-2 handcuffs.

6/  On the darker side, many Korean wives expect you
to give all your earnings to them.

Anyway, good luck.
yOU GOT BALLS MAN!! HASTAG RESPECT TO THIS MAN
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on January 11, 2020, 08:50:53 am
Every time I see one of these Morning Clam comics posted, all I can think is there are people out there saying "It's funny because It's true."  "I have a Korean wife/gf and that is totally her.  She wants to have her cake and it eat it, too.  LOLS"
While some do have a ring of truth to them, the comic has all the nuance of a jackhammer and relies on the worst possible portrayal of whatever foil the person is encountering while putting themselves in a hero's light. You read something else like Ken Greene's blog or there was another darkly humorous one out there I can't remember right now, that while they might have similarly exasperated tones, there was always an underlying tone that showed they understood that they weren't the biggest genius either and that the negative things they often encountered had roots in their own shortcomings. LOMC writer comes across as a guy who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room but his jokes are grade C in insight, setup, delivery, and punchline. And it's the same joke every single fing time. I'm a genius these people in this other country are a bunch of idiots. Everything is their fault.
 
For example there's no recognition here of a grown ass man being unable to do basic tasks without his wife's help and instead of working to overcome that he lies on the couch and just asks her to take care of it. You do realize how effing annoying that would get for someone after awhile, right? No recognition that the bar he set for himself in being able to order food and go to the post office are things you could train an 8-year old to do.

Just off the top off my head , a better comic would have say, had the two of them observing another couple having such an argument with the wife emphasizing the husband taking nightly Korean lessons. The wife gives a wordless knowing glance in the second frame. In the third one, the husband gets the hint and says something like "You know I would like to take on more responsibility with the finances". Frame 4 could be them stopping in their tracks, drawn from behind or perhaps an emotional reaction shot from the wife. Then frame 5 could have them walking on with the husband picturing himself with his favorite hobby or walking the dog and thinking "Don't worry, kept you safe another day" or something like that.

Or you could. I don't know, have this argument in a mall and have the husband give his bit about being able to order food and have them stroll up to the ice cream counter, him asked something and he could A)Not comprehend at all or if you really want to twist it B)He replies incorrectly or just says "Ahneeyo" to which he just turned down some kind of special discount or promotion without realizing it or whatever else, which his observing wife then points out, and in the final frame he gets the message and agrees to take the lessons.

Either one of those would be far better than this counterargument presented as a joke combined with a husband that engenders zero sympathy and seems to delight in putting down his wife.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: stoat on January 11, 2020, 10:25:24 am
The guy says he can order food, go to the post office and  do many other things. So in other words he's more capable than 95% of Westerners married to Korean women. Anyway the joke isn't really about learning Korean, it's about Korean women wanting to have control of the finances. I didn't find it particularly funny because it's not something I've experienced. I prefer those animations about public schools with the robotic voices. Something tells me you'd never find a joke funny that depicts a foreigner being more sane or logical than a Korean due to the massive chip on your shoulder about foreign teachers here being not as good as they think they are that influences everything you say. Hence your suggested comic scenarios that depicts this
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Lazio on January 11, 2020, 10:42:23 am
Either one of those would be far better than this counterargument presented as a joke combined with a husband that engenders zero sympathy and seems to delight in putting down his wife.

No, your versions wouldn't be far better. What on Earth are you talking about?
I would think it needs no explaining, but looks like you didn't get the joke at all. It was not about the husband's Korean proficiency or the lack of it, rather how the wives here like to handle the finances. It doesn't matter if the husband is Korean or foreigner. And we all know it's true, hence it's funny. Only you don't seem to get it.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: oglop on January 11, 2020, 11:39:08 am
yeah i've never experienced having my wife control all finances either. does that happen to you of you here?

we just have a joint account and put a percentage of our earnings in there monthly for rent/food/savings/etc. can't imagine having to ask my wife for pocket money if i want to buy something...with money i earned myself
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Lazio on January 11, 2020, 12:00:43 pm
yeah i've never experienced having my wife control all finances either. does that happen to you of you here?

we just have a joint account and put a percentage of our earnings in there monthly for rent/food/savings/etc. can't imagine having to ask my wife for pocket money if i want to buy something...with money i earned myself

We have shared financials since day 1. Meaning there is no my money and her money, there is OUR money. It was like that when both of us worked and it's like that now when I'm the sole earner. There is no monthly allowance nonsense. Neither of us is wasting money on useless things, we just buy what we want and need. Wife takes care of the mortgage payments, insurances, car and property taxes etc. and whatever is left sitting in the bank, we put it on a savings account and/or invest it.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: stoat on January 11, 2020, 12:09:50 pm
Yep, similar to my situation. As long as you're not married to someone who's going to blow 2 mil on a handbag or so on, it can work fine.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: oglop on January 11, 2020, 12:17:28 pm
yeah i've never experienced having my wife control all finances either. does that happen to you of you here?

we just have a joint account and put a percentage of our earnings in there monthly for rent/food/savings/etc. can't imagine having to ask my wife for pocket money if i want to buy something...with money i earned myself

We have shared financials since day 1. Meaning there is no my money and her money, there is OUR money. It was like that when both of us worked and it's like that now when I'm the sole earner. There is no monthly allowance nonsense. Neither of us is wasting money on useless things, we just buy what we want and need. Wife takes care of the mortgage payments, insurances, car and property taxes etc. and whatever is left sitting in the bank, we put it on a savings account and/or invest it.
yep, nice. it feels like those that have a money-controlling spouse are basically saying, "i don't trust you enough"
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on January 11, 2020, 03:44:47 pm
The conflict between the two isn't who handles the money, the conflict is about language skilll. His pointing out the money issue is the protagonist's method of reolving the conflict.

Also, my apternative method uses the same formula but it isn't a blunt instrument and actually gives some insight into the protagonist's character and motivation and an actually sympathetic reason as to why he isn't spending his free time at Korean class- because he's doing something really enjoyable like spending time with a pet or hobby. It's not ZING! humor more subtle-sly. Anyways its one example I gave off the top of my head.

You could do something like having the husband handing over half his check in each frame, coupled with the wife saying "We need this" and seeing her spend it on different things for 4 different frames, starting with the necessary and working their way to the frivolous (handbag)with corresponding changes to the husband's emotional reaction. Final frame is her asking why there's less than half and what this bar receipt is for, to which the husband responds "I needed this." with perhaps a memory bubble of him and his buddies watching sports at the bar.

Or maybe have one where theyre arguing about the 50%
"...I'm tired of handing over half my paycheck."
"When we dating, you spent ALL your money on me, YES?"
"Erm. Yes...."
"So. I do you favor. Now you get 50%. Very generous. You not grateful." (Storms off)
Final frame of frustrated husband.

LotMC does come across as one of those robotic animations, which rely on an absurd and completely unempathetic take of the antagonist combined with a flawless portrayal of the protagonist and are completely devoid of feeling or character.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: stoat on January 11, 2020, 05:18:43 pm
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The conflict between the two isn't who handles the money, the conflict is about language skilll. His pointing out the money issue is the protagonist's method of reolving the conflict

The joke is obviously about who handles the money. At what point are you supposed to smile/chuckle/laugh? Obviously when she says 'everything except that.'

By the way, do you really think this dialogue paints Korean women in a better light than the Mourning Calm one?


"...I'm tired of handing over half my paycheck."
"When we dating, you spent ALL your money on me, YES?"
"Erm. Yes...."
"So. I do you favor. Now you get 50%. Very generous. You not grateful." (Storms off)
Final frame of frustrated husband.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: oglop on January 11, 2020, 08:01:27 pm
The conflict between the two isn't who handles the money, the conflict is about language skilll. His pointing out the money issue is the protagonist's method of reolving the conflict.

well the point of a joke is usually the punchline. and the punchline -- also always at the end of a joke -- is about the wife not sharing the money. the beginning bit is just a means to get to the punchline
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Savant on January 11, 2020, 08:37:28 pm
The conflict between the two isn't who handles the money, the conflict is about language skilll. His pointing out the money issue is the protagonist's method of reolving the conflict.

well the point of a joke is usually the punchline. and the punchline -- also always at the end of a joke -- is about the wife not sharing the money. the beginning bit is just a means to get to the punchline

He didn't get it...as he does with a lot of things.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: SuperDoodle23 on January 11, 2020, 09:41:29 pm
I'm married to a Korean. We actually had an argument the other day about money. My wife has a very large sum of money and I have some student loan debt. She wanted a really nice destination wedding recently I paid for most of it. I needed about a million won a few months ago to help a bit and she said i could " borrow " it because I was struggling paying for the wedding on my salary and got myself into a hole.

recently I told her about my bonus and she told told me I can pay her back. I got really angry because she has around 50k in the bank and I'm struggling to pay for student loans. I can't even go visit my family during winter vacation because of money issues.  I'm not sure if it's a culture difference or not but it fits in with what I have experienced with a lot of Koreans and money ( greedy and me me me style )
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: stoat on January 11, 2020, 09:51:22 pm
I'm married to a Korean. We actually had an argument the other day about money. My wife has a very large sum of money and I have some student loan debt. She wanted a really nice destination wedding recently I paid for most of it. I needed about a million won a few months ago to help a bit and she said i could " borrow " it because I was struggling paying for the wedding on my salary and got myself into a hole.

recently I told her about my bonus and she told told me I can pay her back. I got really angry because she has around 50k in the bank and I'm struggling to pay for student loans. I can't even go visit my family during winter vacation because of money issues.  I'm not sure if it's a culture difference or not but it fits in with what I have experienced with a lot of Koreans and money ( greedy and me me me style )

This is all over the place. You're married to a Korean woman who wanted a really nice destination wedding recently? Do you mean your wedding? What about the parents, why didn't they chip in?  What's the 50k for? have you discussed it? Anyway no offence but from the rest of it, it  sounds like you got married too soon or too young.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on January 12, 2020, 08:12:08 am
I'm married to a Korean. We actually had an argument the other day about money. My wife has a very large sum of money and I have some student loan debt. She wanted a really nice destination wedding recently I paid for most of it. I needed about a million won a few months ago to help a bit and she said i could " borrow " it because I was struggling paying for the wedding on my salary and got myself into a hole.

recently I told her about my bonus and she told told me I can pay her back. I got really angry because she has around 50k in the bank and I'm struggling to pay for student loans. I can't even go visit my family during winter vacation because of money issues.  I'm not sure if it's a culture difference or not but it fits in with what I have experienced with a lot of Koreans and money ( greedy and me me me style )
This post defines liberalism.

Someone else is greedy because they won't give me their money so I can have fun.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on January 12, 2020, 08:24:07 am
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The conflict between the two isn't who handles the money, the conflict is about language skilll. His pointing out the money issue is the protagonist's method of reolving the conflict

The joke is obviously about who handles the money. At what point are you supposed to smile/chuckle/laugh? Obviously when she says 'everything except that.'

By the way, do you really think this dialogue paints Korean women in a better light than the Mourning Calm one?


"...I'm tired of handing over half my paycheck."
"When we dating, you spent ALL your money on me, YES?"
"Erm. Yes...."
"So. I do you favor. Now you get 50%. Very generous. You not grateful." (Storms off)
Final frame of frustrated husband.

A joke requires both a setup and a punchline. That's why this is poorly told. The setup (the conflict) is completely at odds with the punchline. It's a decent punchline but it doesn't address the cause of their conflict. Better to have the conflict match the punchline.

But this isn't just a joke, it's a comic. You're supposed to add character and personality, something LotMC and those robot animations NEVER do.

As far as mine goes, at least their you get some insight into her perspective. Neither portray the woman in a particularly flattering light, but at least in mine she does get the "win".
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: NorthStar on January 12, 2020, 08:29:47 am
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The conflict between the two isn't who handles the money, the conflict is about language skilll. His pointing out the money issue is the protagonist's method of reolving the conflict

The joke is obviously about who handles the money. At what point are you supposed to smile/chuckle/laugh? Obviously when she says 'everything except that.'

By the way, do you really think this dialogue paints Korean women in a better light than the Mourning Calm one?


"...I'm tired of handing over half my paycheck."
"When we dating, you spent ALL your money on me, YES?"
"Erm. Yes...."
"So. I do you favor. Now you get 50%. Very generous. You not grateful." (Storms off)
Final frame of frustrated husband.

A joke requires both a setup and a punchline. That's why this is poorly told. The setup (the conflict) is completely at odds with the punchline. It's a decent punchline but it doesn't address the cause of their conflict. Better to have the conflict match the punchline.

But this isn't just a joke, it's a comic. You're supposed to add character and personality, something LotMC and those robot animations NEVER do.

As far as mine goes, at least their you get some insight into her perspective. Neither portray the woman in a particularly flattering light, but at least in mine she does get the "win".


..seriously, defending your own joke?


The other guy's joke was better and needs no explanation.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: stoat on January 12, 2020, 08:45:55 am
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The conflict between the two isn't who handles the money, the conflict is about language skilll. His pointing out the money issue is the protagonist's method of reolving the conflict

The joke is obviously about who handles the money. At what point are you supposed to smile/chuckle/laugh? Obviously when she says 'everything except that.'

By the way, do you really think this dialogue paints Korean women in a better light than the Mourning Calm one?


"...I'm tired of handing over half my paycheck."
"When we dating, you spent ALL your money on me, YES?"
"Erm. Yes...."
"So. I do you favor. Now you get 50%. Very generous. You not grateful." (Storms off)
Final frame of frustrated husband.

A joke requires both a setup and a punchline. That's why this is poorly told. The setup (the conflict) is completely at odds with the punchline. It's a decent punchline but it doesn't address the cause of their conflict. Better to have the conflict match the punchline.

But this isn't just a joke, it's a comic. You're supposed to add character and personality, something LotMC and those robot animations NEVER do.

As far as mine goes, at least their you get some insight into her perspective. Neither portray the woman in a particularly flattering light, but at least in mine she does get the "win".

Is men paying for everything on dates still a thing in Korea? My students tell me they kind of expect it on the fitst date but if circumstances are similar they go Dutch after that. Your strip sounds a bit dated and the woman comes across more like a Thai bar girl.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: NorthStar on January 12, 2020, 09:58:24 am
I'm married to a Korean. We actually had an argument the other day about money. My wife has a very large sum of money and I have some student loan debt. She wanted a really nice destination wedding recently I paid for most of it. I needed about a million won a few months ago to help a bit and she said i could " borrow " it because I was struggling paying for the wedding on my salary and got myself into a hole.

recently I told her about my bonus and she told told me I can pay her back. I got really angry because she has around 50k in the bank and I'm struggling to pay for student loans. I can't even go visit my family during winter vacation because of money issues.  I'm not sure if it's a culture difference or not but it fits in with what I have experienced with a lot of Koreans and money ( greedy and me me me style )
This post defines liberalism.

Someone else is greedy because they won't give me their money so I can have fun.

I'll agree with that  one.

Anyway, I don't know any man would acquiesce to surrender his money to the wife, with his tail between his legs..

Seriously..grow a pair,boys. 

I've asked some of my students regarding who is in charge of their house...mixed responses.  Some say it is their dad but many said it is their mom.  I also asked who they feared most...mom or dad.  Most students said they feared their moms the most, while their dads were aloof to most things. 
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: stoat on January 12, 2020, 10:01:47 am
Her 50k is probably invested for a fixed period with penalties for withdrawing bits of it. 
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: SPQR on January 12, 2020, 10:17:18 am

Is men :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: stoat on January 12, 2020, 10:25:36 am
So which is correct, 'men paying for dates is a thing' or 'men paying for dates are a thing'?   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: NorthStar on January 12, 2020, 10:42:48 am
So which is correct, 'men paying for dates is a thing' or 'men paying for dates are a thing'?   :rolleyes:

Grammar points? ..IT... IS.... SUNDAY...(let it go)
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Savant on January 12, 2020, 10:51:00 am
I'm married to a Korean. We actually had an argument the other day about money. My wife has a very large sum of money and I have some student loan debt. She wanted a really nice destination wedding recently I paid for most of it. I needed about a million won a few months ago to help a bit and she said i could " borrow " it because I was struggling paying for the wedding on my salary and got myself into a hole.

recently I told her about my bonus and she told told me I can pay her back. I got really angry because she has around 50k in the bank and I'm struggling to pay for student loans. I can't even go visit my family during winter vacation because of money issues.  I'm not sure if it's a culture difference or not but it fits in with what I have experienced with a lot of Koreans and money ( greedy and me me me style )
This post defines liberalism.

Someone else is greedy because they won't give me their money so I can have fun.

Is it? Looks like "his money" is "their money" in the eyes of the wife. But the wife's money is "hers" and not "theirs".

In the interests of equality and *cough love cough* couldn't the wife help to repay his student loan debt?

She seems more interested in holding onto her money but demands more money from him.

Sounds like a relationship to escape from, though.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: T.J. on January 12, 2020, 12:21:58 pm

Is men :rolleyes:


Might want to check your eye roll. What is the subject of the sentence?
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: SPQR on January 12, 2020, 01:13:21 pm

Is men :rolleyes:


Might want to check your eye roll. What is the subject of the sentence?

Yew mite want too check you're I rolls, 2.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: fka on January 12, 2020, 01:19:34 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/xSKre9R.jpg)
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: stoat on January 12, 2020, 03:05:28 pm
I don't get it. What comes next?
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: theman3285 on January 12, 2020, 03:28:02 pm
I'm married to a Korean. We actually had an argument the other day about money. My wife has a very large sum of money and I have some student loan debt. She wanted a really nice destination wedding recently I paid for most of it. I needed about a million won a few months ago to help a bit and she said i could " borrow " it because I was struggling paying for the wedding on my salary and got myself into a hole.

recently I told her about my bonus and she told told me I can pay her back. I got really angry because she has around 50k in the bank and I'm struggling to pay for student loans. I can't even go visit my family during winter vacation because of money issues.  I'm not sure if it's a culture difference or not but it fits in with what I have experienced with a lot of Koreans and money ( greedy and me me me style )
This post defines liberalism.

Someone else is greedy because they won't give me their money so I can have fun.

Is it? Looks like "his money" is "their money" in the eyes of the wife. But the wife's money is "hers" and not "theirs".

In the interests of equality and *cough love cough* couldn't the wife help to repay his student loan debt?

She seems more interested in holding onto her money but demands more money from him.

Sounds like a relationship to escape from, though.
I second this. Signing up for a destination wedding and footing the bill while paying off student loans sounds like a terrible idea. Girlfriend's loaded and wants to get hitched in an exotic location? Awesome, but she's paying for most of it. You should've put your foot down and got married in a run-of-the-mill Korean wedding hall, like I did. My wife knew I was broke as balls, so she paid upfront and made it all back via guest contributions (actually she made a nominal profit, which we used to furnish our apartment).

Anyway, what concerns me is the massive power imbalance you've established in your relationship. It's okay to have less money than your wife, but if you aren't prepared to compensate with some serious frame control then you're in for a world of hurt, frankly.

Read this: https://therationalmale.com/2011/10/12/frame/



 

Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: alexisalex on January 12, 2020, 03:43:30 pm
..seriously, defending your own joke?


The other guy's joke was better and needs no explanation.

Lol yeah sorry DM but the original was funny enough and didn't descend into cheap and casual racism like your version.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: SuperDoodle23 on January 12, 2020, 03:49:55 pm
I'm also to blame. I went along with too many things to try to make her happy such as trying to carry the burden of an exotic wedding plus student loans. I damn near did it but I just came up about a grand short. My wife got her money from insurance somehow. The thing is she has offered numerous times to pay for my student loan but I would feel like a wuss having my wife help me. I also don't feeling like I owe someone something.

I guess I just wanted my wife to show me that she had my back and offer to help me out with going to see my family. I actually have enough money but she has asked if I can also buy her flight ticket as well. I would feel guilty going to see family without her. I'm also shocked that she won't commit harder to going to see my family with me but this isn't so bad because it will give me time of leverage when I move back to the states .
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: shanebarry1986 on January 12, 2020, 05:16:56 pm
A joke requires both a setup and a punchline.

WRONG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GKKnlsZvQA
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Cohort 2019 on January 12, 2020, 05:44:35 pm
Perhaps you could also look through her eyes. It seems to me she is doing this out of love for you as a married couple and she is merely fulfilling her responsibilities as a faithful Korean wife by guarding her nest egg. The 'large sum' is her dowry, perhaps given to her by her family, and to be used towards getting a jonsae or mortgage or starting up a business or in the event of a terrible financial emergency. In any case, it is not meant to be used for anything frivolous (such as a wedding venue), your hobbies nor her prada bag and it can only ever be spent after careful consultation with mum&dad. Seems to me it might have been the result of a collective effort from her family so therefore she is to guard it responsibly (read: for future generations.) You should also take into account that Korean culture is highly risk-averse whereas we would simply bank on our futures to be better and brighter, Koreans would fret and worry about the 'what-ifs' knowing she had to go to the States with you. What if you cannot find a job, what if your house in Cali burns down, what if your children need expensive care, what if all fails? Then, she still has her nest egg to save the entire family. Remember that Korean men are not well-known for being extremely caring and responsible in family matters. A big Equus and a new interior are things they spend money on, till they get married.  :wink: (Based on incidental evidence from my morning class)

I understand fully why you should not ask her to help out with (relatively small, incidental) expenses, whereas resolving debt would be perfectly understandable as that is a 'longterm, lifelong expense/investment' along the lines of jonsae etc. I'd say ask her to pay off the debt, that is her responsibility, that frees you up to do yours. No use to think like a stubborn American about this, just bend with the winds here, she might only get more annoyed by hearing you are struggling to do 'your' part.

Really mate, she is nothing but being lovely to you here,  may it be in a highly stubborn Korean way.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on January 12, 2020, 06:58:05 pm

Is it? Looks like "his money" is "their money" in the eyes of the wife. But the wife's money is "hers" and not "theirs".

In the interests of equality and *cough love cough* couldn't the wife help to repay his student loan debt?

She seems more interested in holding onto her money but demands more money from him.

Sounds like a relationship to escape from, though.
Yeah, for her.

Dude should repay the debt himself so he can learn some financial responsibility and not become reliant on bailouts. Boo frickin hoo you can't go home for vacation. Toughen up. In fact, instead of blowing money on a pointless trip back home, use it to pay off the debt.

Dude is living his life through his feels, not his brains right now.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on January 12, 2020, 07:09:39 pm
The guy says he can order food, go to the post office and  do many other things. So in other words he's more capable than 95% of Westerners married to Korean women.
Can you imagine being married to someone who was proud they could order food, go to the post office, and shop?

Your strip sounds a bit dated and the woman comes across more like a Thai bar girl.
As far as the accent I was between a rock and a hard place, use a perfect voice and everyone accuses you of making the Korean person seem unrealistically articulate. Use the stereotype voice and then you get this. Also, it's not a joke, it's a comic,

Also, comic is written by guy born in 1970? That about fits and explains the ego and the bitterness.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: stoat on January 12, 2020, 09:01:21 pm
Quote
.    Quote from: stoat on Yesterday at 10:25:24 am
The guy says he can order food, go to the post office and  do many other things. So in other words he's more capable than 95% of Westerners married to Korean women.
Can you imagine being married to someone who was proud they could order food, go to the post office, and shop?

 

He said he could order food, go to the post office, shop and do many other things
He didn't say he was proud of this, it was a response to his wife telling him he should learn more Korean.
Yes, I could quite easily imagine being married to someone who was proud of doing these things in a difficult foreign language, depending how efficiently they could do it and how long it had taken them to learn
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: theman3285 on January 13, 2020, 11:42:38 am
Really mate, she is nothing but being lovely to you here,  may it be in a highly stubborn Korean way.
Disagree strongly. If she was as responsible and empathetic as you claim she would never have pushed for an expensive overseas wedding knowing full well it'd put her husband on the back foot. It was a deliberate attempt to test both his decision making skills and his resolve. He failed on both counts and relegated himself to a dependent. Women abhor having any sort of dependant (other than their offspring). And rightly so.

Like I said, it's okay to be strapped for cash (she got lucky with insurance or highly generous parents, or whatever, so what?) - but there are other forms of currency that need to be demonstrated on a fairly regular basis if a woman is to maintain her attraction (decision making skills, rock-like resolve, dependability, physical presence, willingness to listen, social acumen, etc. etc. etc.) Repeated failure to perform in these key areas will result in (a) a non-compliant, uncompromising and increasingly argumentative wife, and (b) a doomed and sexless marriage.     
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: OnNut81 on January 13, 2020, 11:47:59 am
(https://i.imgur.com/xSKre9R.jpg)

Regardless, we all seem to agree on the wit involved with these comics.  It inspired me to come up with my own hilarious scenario that I hope Jim can bring to comic life in an upcoming strip. 

Our guy walks into his public school and notices that all the other teachers are dressed to the nines while he is wearing his usual casual dress.  He asks his co-teacher what's going on and she tells him "Today is photo day.  Didn't I tell you?"  Our hero then sighs and says "No, you forgot to mention that..."  He then breaks the fourth wall and gives an eye roll and finishes "Again!" 

That one is a freebie. 
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: stoat on January 13, 2020, 12:30:10 pm
How about an alternative one to keep Demartino happy

Our guy walks into his public school and notices that all the other teachers are dressed to the nines while he is wearing his usual casual dress.  He asks his co-teacher what's going on and she tells him "Today is photo day.  Didn't I tell you?"  Our hero then says "Yes of course, that's why I'm wearing my best hoodie and jeans.."  The co-teacher then breaks the fourth wall and gives an eye roll and says 'bleedin' scruffy foreigners!"  or words to that effect.

You can have that one for free as well.
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: OnNut81 on January 13, 2020, 12:38:39 pm
How about an alternative one to keep Demartino happy

Our guy walks into his public school and notices that all the other teachers are dressed to the nines while he is wearing his usual casual dress.  He asks his co-teacher what's going on and she tells him "Today is photo day.  Didn't I tell you?"  Our hero then says "Yes of course, that's why I'm wearing my best hoodie and jeans.."  The co-teacher then breaks the fourth wall and gives an eye roll and says 'bleedin' scruffy foreigners!"  or words to that effect.

You can have that one for free as well.

I like that twist. 
Title: Re: Marrying a Korean Public School teacher?
Post by: Mr.DeMartino on January 13, 2020, 02:53:59 pm
Here's one: The usual setup with photo day. CT is about to chew him out when the Principal walks up "Oh Jim Teacher! No suit?" "No one told me" and principal is all "Hmm...what can we do?" Have a blank transitory frame or maybe one of the CT with no caption. The final frame has all the teachers with the principal and Jim Teacher looking really happy and with big smiles standing next to each other, while CT is in the corner of the group with a huge scowl.