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« Reply #9000 on: October 27, 2018, 07:30:43 PM »
Currently a special education teacher in the United States and wishing I was teaching in Korea again. At least the kids are better and the social life is more fun.

Anyways, as a SPED teacher, one of my jobs is to ensure general education teachers and the school understand and follow a student's IEP, which is a legal document. I work with one teacher I've butted heads with a few times over this, because she doesn't feel she has to follow the IEP. I've been as diplomatic and upfront with her as possible and never gone behind her back to the principal or others in administration. Then I get an email from my principal today telling me that this gen ed teacher has "concerns" that I'm not implementing a certain student's IEP properly. This teacher is trying to throw me under the bus for the fact that she's not doing what is legally required of her. I f___king hate these kind of people. One good thing is I'm in communication with the student's mother and she's been entirely on my side.

have you missed the fact that on virtually a daily basis there's a thread on here with some complaint about a useless korean coworker, or a korean coworker trying to screw them over, or a racist head teacher/VP/principal trying to make their life miserable, or a korean co-teacher deliberately trying to sabotage their lesson, or ... the list goes on.

at least in the US your side of the story will actually be listened to and you can state your case instead of just being ignored and the korean instantly believed (even if they're a student) just for being a foreigner.

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« Reply #9001 on: October 27, 2018, 11:44:47 PM »
Currently a special education teacher in the United States and wishing I was teaching in Korea again. At least the kids are better and the social life is more fun.

Anyways, as a SPED teacher, one of my jobs is to ensure general education teachers and the school understand and follow a student's IEP, which is a legal document. I work with one teacher I've butted heads with a few times over this, because she doesn't feel she has to follow the IEP. I've been as diplomatic and upfront with her as possible and never gone behind her back to the principal or others in administration. Then I get an email from my principal today telling me that this gen ed teacher has "concerns" that I'm not implementing a certain student's IEP properly. This teacher is trying to throw me under the bus for the fact that she's not doing what is legally required of her. I f___king hate these kind of people. One good thing is I'm in communication with the student's mother and she's been entirely on my side.

have you missed the fact that on virtually a daily basis there's a thread on here with some complaint about a useless korean coworker, or a korean coworker trying to screw them over, or a racist head teacher/VP/principal trying to make their life miserable, or a korean co-teacher deliberately trying to sabotage their lesson, or ... the list goes on.

at least in the US your side of the story will actually be listened to and you can state your case instead of just being ignored and the korean instantly believed (even if they're a student) just for being a foreigner.

Have you missed the fact that this is a venting thread and that you have no clue what my situation is like?

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« Reply #9002 on: October 28, 2018, 05:32:19 AM »
When you exchange something in Korea, or pre-auth a gas pump, they charge your card before they release the existing hold.



I always give my card after the pump. Am I weird?

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« Reply #9003 on: October 28, 2018, 06:36:27 AM »
When you exchange something in Korea, or pre-auth a gas pump, they charge your card before they release the existing hold.



I always give my card after the pump. Am I weird?
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« Reply #9004 on: October 28, 2018, 06:25:13 PM »
Wife has some TV show on in the background. Some celebs touring Rome.

Using just a fork to slurp spaghetti like ramyeon noodles? Sounds and looks absolute horrid.

Do they simulate having an orgasm just after it enters their mouths?

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« Reply #9005 on: October 29, 2018, 12:59:05 PM »
I enjoy being here, but today was just one of those days were Korea pissed me right off.

1 - While teaching, there's been this persistent banging noise for the past few weeks, coming from the next class every minute or so. It's heard as well as felt and is infuriating. I asked my CT to speak to the HR teacher next do and the HR teacher apparently told her that "she tried to get the students to settle down, but they wouldn't" Again it happened and I marched to her class and discovered that there are a row of cabinets against the back wall of her classroom, which is on the other side of the front of the English room. Students go to these cabinets to get whatever they need and seem to enjoy slamming it closed as hard as possible. I don't like undermining another teacher, but seeing as she has no authority to undermine, I didn't feel bad about walking into her ruckus/class and letting her know to stop this sh*t.

2 - One class of 5th graders, while not disrespectful, has an attention span of ZERO. I gave them an activity called rolling papers (not those kind of papers). Their only instruction was to write their name, in Korean, in the space provided. Even with a thorough explanation in English and Korean, they still screwed it up. My CT and both exchanged looks which said "These are some thick motherf*ckers". I 100% blame the parents for giving a 9yr old unrestricted access to a smartphone and let them zone out on mindless television all day.

3 - There are multiple special needs kids in our school. Most of them cause disruptions, do nothing but absorb oxygen or can't keep up. One boy obviously looks completely bored, but totally in his own world in our class. He's done nothing but draw pictures  for 2yrs. My CT informed me that there is a special needs school, just 5km away, but most of the parents refuse to send their kids there. Apparently, the best interest of their child is less important than the gossip of their acquaintances.
     

4 - Bonus. I decided to re-watch the Harry Potter movies this weekend, my wife loves them. I love Fantasy, but every time I watch Harry Potter, I keep thinking it's because I'm not paying attention that I find the plot is thoroughly confusing,full of holes, painfully cringey acting and  a confused mess. Well, I've been about 90% sure, but now I'm 100%. The entire Harry Potter series, aside from maybe the first movie, is sh*t. What screwed everything was money. Make no mistake, the books are for kids. The first movie was a kid's movie, end of story, that's not to say I can't appreciate a kid's movie.

The problem came when it was discovered that adults who forgot to grow up made up a large part of the audience. So,
Rowling and the directors tried to make the new moveis cater to the younger and older audiences. They really should've taken a few notes from Pixar, who know how to do this. This becomes nothing but an absolute cringefest, filled with plot holes, camp acting which is necessary for younger audience but painful for most adults to watch.

The most ridiculous moment was this scene, in the Order of the Phoenix. Harry's sitting on a swing and Dudley and his crew come along to taunt him. Harry gets upset rushes up to Dudley and were one might expect Harry to throw a right hook. Harry furiously pulls out his little paintbrush and puts it at Dudley's throat. Dudley's friends erupt into guffaw and whenever I see this scene, I too can't contain my laughter. 




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« Reply #9006 on: October 29, 2018, 02:12:00 PM »
The attitudes of about half of my students from every grade have become "somber" in my classes because I've had to be a monster for the last half of this semester.

There are fewer serious problem students in my main school this year than there were last year, mostly because the more serious problem students have all been expelled, but the student body overall has been more disruptive and less focused (my guess -- this behavior is a remnant of disrespect leftover from watching how the teachers dealt with the more serious problem students earlier in the year). They're more likely to ignore the teacher and pretend that they don't hear her [they only do this to the female teachers], to avoid doing their work, to try to **** around in class instead of doing their assignments or paying attention, and etc. Nothing really bad or outside of the norm of what would be typical classroom misbehavior, really, but it's become almost constant. Basically, they've been testing the teachers and pushing boundaries more.

And I've been tackling it all with zero tolerance. While I am never mean, I never sugarcoat anything, either, and I go from 0 to 60 almost on a dime.
 
And I suddenly realized today that I'm basically my old high school choir instructor.

These kids turned me into a choir teacher. ****** hell.
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« Reply #9007 on: October 29, 2018, 02:30:40 PM »
4 - Bonus. I decided to re-watch the Harry Potter movies this weekend, my wife loves them. I love Fantasy, but every time I watch Harry Potter, I keep thinking it's because I'm not paying attention that I find the plot is thoroughly confusing,full of holes, painfully cringey acting and  a confused mess. Well, I've been about 90% sure, but now I'm 100%. The entire Harry Potter series, aside from maybe the first movie, is sh*t. What screwed everything was money. Make no mistake, the books are for kids. The first movie was a kid's movie, end of story, that's not to say I can't appreciate a kid's movie.

The problem came when it was discovered that adults who forgot to grow up made up a large part of the audience. So,
Rowling and the directors tried to make the new moveis cater to the younger and older audiences. They really should've taken a few notes from Pixar, who know how to do this. This becomes nothing but an absolute cringefest, filled with plot holes, camp acting which is necessary for younger audience but painful for most adults to watch.

As Harry Potter went on (and as I grew older) I became less and less interested in the movies. Personally, it peaked for me at Goblet of Fire and I couldn't really say I enjoyed any movie after that.

And I suddenly realized today that I'm basically my old high school choir instructor.

These kids turned me into a choir teacher. ****** hell.

This is what I'm afraid of... All of my closest friends will tell you they've never seen me angry. Just this year alone would make you think that's not the case. I'm sorry your classes are so rough :sad:
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« Reply #9008 on: October 29, 2018, 02:34:50 PM »
I enjoy being here, but today was just one of those days were Korea pissed me right off.

1 - While teaching, there's been this persistent banging noise for the past few weeks, coming from the next class every minute or so. It's heard as well as felt and is infuriating. I asked my CT to speak to the HR teacher next do and the HR teacher apparently told her that "she tried to get the students to settle down, but they wouldn't" Again it happened and I marched to her class and discovered that there are a row of cabinets against the back wall of her classroom, which is on the other side of the front of the English room. Students go to these cabinets to get whatever they need and seem to enjoy slamming it closed as hard as possible. I don't like undermining another teacher, but seeing as she has no authority to undermine, I didn't feel bad about walking into her ruckus/class and letting her know to stop this sh*t.

2 - One class of 5th graders, while not disrespectful, has an attention span of ZERO. I gave them an activity called rolling papers (not those kind of papers). Their only instruction was to write their name, in Korean, in the space provided. Even with a thorough explanation in English and Korean, they still screwed it up. My CT and both exchanged looks which said "These are some thick motherf*ckers". I 100% blame the parents for giving a 9yr old unrestricted access to a smartphone and let them zone out on mindless television all day.

3 - There are multiple special needs kids in our school. Most of them cause disruptions, do nothing but absorb oxygen or can't keep up. One boy obviously looks completely bored, but totally in his own world in our class. He's done nothing but draw pictures  for 2yrs. My CT informed me that there is a special needs school, just 5km away, but most of the parents refuse to send their kids there. Apparently, the best interest of their child is less important than the gossip of their acquaintances.
     

4 - Bonus. I decided to re-watch the Harry Potter movies this weekend, my wife loves them. I love Fantasy, but every time I watch Harry Potter, I keep thinking it's because I'm not paying attention that I find the plot is thoroughly confusing,full of holes, painfully cringey acting and  a confused mess. Well, I've been about 90% sure, but now I'm 100%. The entire Harry Potter series, aside from maybe the first movie, is sh*t. What screwed everything was money. Make no mistake, the books are for kids. The first movie was a kid's movie, end of story, that's not to say I can't appreciate a kid's movie.

The problem came when it was discovered that adults who forgot to grow up made up a large part of the audience. So,
Rowling and the directors tried to make the new moveis cater to the younger and older audiences. They really should've taken a few notes from Pixar, who know how to do this. This becomes nothing but an absolute cringefest, filled with plot holes, camp acting which is necessary for younger audience but painful for most adults to watch.

The most ridiculous moment was this scene, in the Order of the Phoenix. Harry's sitting on a swing and Dudley and his crew come along to taunt him. Harry gets upset rushes up to Dudley and were one might expect Harry to throw a right hook. Harry furiously pulls out his little paintbrush and puts it at Dudley's throat. Dudley's friends erupt into guffaw and whenever I see this scene, I too can't contain my laughter. 



I'm sure #4 happens in the book too but, I've only read the books once, and a many years ago, and have seen the movies more :P
So, chances are I'm remembering wrong because of it

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9009 on: October 30, 2018, 08:26:25 AM »
Harry Potter=Halloween. The older you are, the less you should care about it until at some point you need to gracefully hand it over to the next generation to enjoy and help facilitate their fun.

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« Reply #9010 on: October 30, 2018, 09:36:55 AM »
Yeah, I only really like the first two films. After that the directors try too hard to illustrate a shift in the characters' maturity levels (to be reflected in the tones of the later films) but it's all too sudden and doesn't match up with what the movie series had established before then. I agree that there were too many visions getting crammed into the films, but they didn't really have the time to iron out the wrinkles to make it all fit better, either. That's the problem working with child actors, unfortunately.

But I still love the first two films. Third film is the worst, imo.

And I suddenly realized today that I'm basically my old high school choir instructor.

These kids turned me into a choir teacher. ****** hell.

This is what I'm afraid of... All of my closest friends will tell you they've never seen me angry. Just this year alone would make you think that's not the case. I'm sorry your classes are so rough :sad:

Kids are great at getting under people's skin, lol. It's only normal for teachers to feel the frustration when they're having to deal with hundreds of them on a regular basis.

And this is why we need vacations. The burnout is real.

In my own case it's not really the kids I'm frustrated with but how other teachers are dealing with student misbehavior, and just the overall attitude that many of them have about what they feel they're not responsible for. There's not much of a unified front here, everyone is on his or her own, and the kids know that and take full advantage.

I've culled the rebellion in my own classes because I've been very aggressive about it, but the result has been a lot of pouting. So like half the class is engaged while the other half is still busy sulking over the fact that I make them do their work and am not intimidated by any of their tantrums. And I don't expect this to improve, not when the students are still free to repeat their behavior in other classes. They'll just bide their time and attempt to test me again later, especially now that the end of the school year is approaching.

How have you been dealing?
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« Reply #9011 on: October 30, 2018, 09:46:03 AM »
Harry Potter=Halloween. The older you are, the less you should care about it until at some point you need to gracefully hand it over to the next generation to enjoy and help facilitate their fun.
halloween stopped being fun when i was about 10 (as did harry potter). north americans go nuts go it though, which i find it hard to get my head around

also, did anyone go to itaewon on saturday night? heard it was a shit show

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« Reply #9012 on: October 30, 2018, 09:49:48 AM »
also, did anyone go to itaewon on saturday night? heard it was a shit show

I got dragged there by friends last year, it was a shit fest then, too. Itaewon is always shit during major holiday events.

Never again.

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« Reply #9013 on: October 30, 2018, 10:35:23 AM »
So Starbucks is playing christmas music already..  can't even relax and have coffee without hearing "giddy up giddup let's go... bla bla in the snow bla bla sleigh ride together with you...  Not even November.  So two more months of this.  Time to find a new coffee shop.  Anywhere else have good normal drip coffee?

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« Reply #9014 on: October 30, 2018, 12:09:29 PM »
And I suddenly realized today that I'm basically my old high school choir instructor.

These kids turned me into a choir teacher. ****** hell.

This is what I'm afraid of... All of my closest friends will tell you they've never seen me angry. Just this year alone would make you think that's not the case. I'm sorry your classes are so rough :sad:

Kids are great at getting under people's skin, lol. It's only normal for teachers to feel the frustration when they're having to deal with hundreds of them on a regular basis.

And this is why we need vacations. The burnout is real.

In my own case it's not really the kids I'm frustrated with but how other teachers are dealing with student misbehavior, and just the overall attitude that many of them have about what they feel they're not responsible for. There's not much of a unified front here, everyone is on his or her own, and the kids know that and take full advantage.

I've culled the rebellion in my own classes because I've been very aggressive about it, but the result has been a lot of pouting. So like half the class is engaged while the other half is still busy sulking over the fact that I make them do their work and am not intimidated by any of their tantrums. And I don't expect this to improve, not when the students are still free to repeat their behavior in other classes. They'll just bide their time and attempt to test me again later, especially now that the end of the school year is approaching.

How have you been dealing?

Trying my best not to explode. It's gonna sound bad, but I've given up on some of the kids at my main school. I'm moving to a new school next semester and it's not worth trying to correct their behavior at this point. (Is it just me or are kids in the metropolitan areas far worse than the ones in the countryside?) I'm just looking forward to starting over again. I'm still learning here, and it'll be much easier to apply these new ideas once I'm at a new school with students who are unfamiliar with me.

Can't confidently say I'm going to stay in Korea after next semester (things could change), but I'll give it my best at the end.
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« Reply #9015 on: October 30, 2018, 12:17:39 PM »
I lost my f*cking flashdrive. I've been procrastinating to back it up for months and now I've lost it. Years worth of lesson materials and lesson plans gone.

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« Reply #9016 on: October 30, 2018, 12:21:58 PM »
I lost my f*cking flashdrive. I've been procrastinating to back it up for months and now I've lost it. Years worth of lesson materials and lesson plans gone.

Time to purchase a waygook.org subscription.  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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« Reply #9017 on: October 30, 2018, 01:03:46 PM »
also, did anyone go to itaewon on saturday night? heard it was a shit show

I got dragged there by friends last year, it was a shit fest then, too. Itaewon is always shit during major holiday events.

Never again.

Halloween in Itaewon is... definitely something.

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« Reply #9018 on: October 30, 2018, 01:12:07 PM »
Yeah, I only really like the first two films. After that the directors try too hard to illustrate a shift in the characters' maturity levels (to be reflected in the tones of the later films) but it's all too sudden and doesn't match up with what the movie series had established before then. I agree that there were too many visions getting crammed into the films, but they didn't really have the time to iron out the wrinkles to make it all fit better, either. That's the problem working with child actors, unfortunately.

But I still love the first two films. Third film is the worst, imo.

Waygook.org user Chinguetti, I'm going to reply to this message in two parts: first, Harry Potter movies. I remember when I first saw the first two movies, I thought they sucked. But that was like a really long time ago. Then, I randomly came across a HP marathon on TV here, and it just happened to be after I'd watched Star Wars Episode XIII. And something to do with the contrast between how awful SW was and how much I remembered disliking the first HP movies, I remember watching Chamber of Secrets and thinking, "Okay, this movie is really decent, especially considering it relies on child actors. Because like, it has an actual narrative going on and I kind of care what happens to the characters. Okay. Decent movie!" [disclaimer: reasons for not liking SW Ep. 8 have nothing to do with the characters or what they do. It has to do with it just being a terribly written and paced movie.]

That said - I still think 3 and 4 are the best Harry Potter movies. They did go a little hard on the grimdark spooky factor, but I think they really have the most coherent stories, and the kids have a lot more acting experience under their belts, too. And then once you're into Order of the Phoenix, the movies just turn into hot trash because there's no way to cram that much book into a single movie. But, I digress. HP 1 and 2 do hold up really well.

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« Reply #9019 on: October 30, 2018, 01:15:03 PM »
I lost my f*cking flashdrive. I've been procrastinating to back it up for months and now I've lost it. Years worth of lesson materials and lesson plans gone.

ooooooh!  Dang!  I'm so sorry!  It hurt just reading it!