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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8060 on: May 02, 2018, 02:43:23 PM »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8061 on: May 02, 2018, 02:50:15 PM »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?


That'd be my guess as well.  Though I feel it's more logical to pronounce "troll" in the same manner as "roll" so as not to confuse with trawling.  Whatever floats ya'lls boats. 

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8062 on: May 02, 2018, 02:52:25 PM »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?
  :laugh:

God no...

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/troll?q=trolling 

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8063 on: May 02, 2018, 02:53:28 PM »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?


That'd be my guess as well.  Though I feel it's more logical to pronounce "troll" in the same manner as "roll" so as not to confuse with trawling.  Whatever floats ya'lls boats.

Well we do that too....but our pronunciation of roll is also better different.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8064 on: May 02, 2018, 02:54:37 PM »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?


That'd be my guess as well.  Though I feel it's more logical to pronounce "troll" in the same manner as "roll" so as not to confuse with trawling.  Whatever floats ya'lls boats.

Well we do that too....but our pronunciation of roll is also better different.


Oh god I just listened to your pronunciation of TRAWL...it does sound like our troll.  :laugh:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8065 on: May 02, 2018, 03:03:30 PM »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?
  :laugh:

God no...

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/troll?q=trolling

The difference in pronunciation in those examples is honestly subtle enough that I probably wouldn't have even registered it as different if I heard it in casual conversation. Is the difference in real life more pronounced than in those recordings? They certainly don't sound drastic enough that I'd liken it to nails on a chalkboard or think it "does my head in," but I guess everyone has to be passionate about something.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8066 on: May 02, 2018, 03:15:07 PM »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?
  :laugh:

God no...

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/troll?q=trolling

The difference in pronunciation in those examples is honestly subtle enough that I probably wouldn't have even registered it as different if I heard it in casual conversation. Is the difference in real life more pronounced than in those recordings? They certainly don't sound drastic enough that I'd liken it to nails on a chalkboard or think it "does my head in," but I guess everyone has to be passionate about something.

Calm down Mr. Tim, it was clearly meant in jest. (From my side, don't know about Avec)

I also didn't say this pronunciation specifically,

Just that sometimes the American pronunciation of a words feels like nails on a chalkboard. One specific  example would be "Schedule".

I just prefer British pronunciation, it isn't a personal attack on you or your country.  ;D

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8067 on: May 02, 2018, 03:17:35 PM »
You know another word Americans pronounce better different?

"vitamin"

Only the difference is a bit more obvious.

I had no idea broccoli derived from cabbage.  (Along with misc other veggies.)

Fun fact, it's like real-life pokemon. Cabbage is basically magikarp. No one really knows what it's good for, BUT THEN

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8068 on: May 02, 2018, 03:22:21 PM »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?
  :laugh:

God no...

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/troll?q=trolling

The difference in pronunciation in those examples is honestly subtle enough that I probably wouldn't have even registered it as different if I heard it in casual conversation. Is the difference in real life more pronounced than in those recordings? They certainly don't sound drastic enough that I'd liken it to nails on a chalkboard or think it "does my head in," but I guess everyone has to be passionate about something.

Calm down Mr. Tim, it was clearly meant in jest. (From my side, don't know about Avec)

I also didn't say this pronunciation specifically,

Just that sometimes the American pronunciation of a words feels like nails on a chalkboard. One specific  example would be "Schedule".

I just prefer British pronunciation, it isn't a personal attack on you or your country.  ;D

Sorry. It's become one of my pet peeves over the years, I suppose, so I probably read too much in to it sometimes. Condescension from Brits, that is. Whether it's about American English, still using the Imperial measuring system, or our... uh... eating habits, I've just grown tired of people looking down their noses at us. Tired enough that even when it's done in jest, I let it get to me, apparently.

I actually used to really want to visit the UK again (I lived in Scotland when I was very young, my earliest memories are there), but then the internet came along and exposed me to all the things they think and have to say about us, and I'm just about cured of that desire.  :laugh:

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8069 on: May 02, 2018, 03:32:20 PM »
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I actually used to really want to visit the UK again (I lived in Scotland when I was very young, my earliest memories are there), but then the internet came along and exposed me to all the things they think and have to say about us, and I'm just about cured of that desire.  :laugh:

Yeah I put off my trip to the States because of my less than perfect teeth.

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« Reply #8070 on: May 02, 2018, 03:33:45 PM »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?
  :laugh:

God no...

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/troll?q=trolling

The difference in pronunciation in those examples is honestly subtle enough that I probably wouldn't have even registered it as different if I heard it in casual conversation. Is the difference in real life more pronounced than in those recordings? They certainly don't sound drastic enough that I'd liken it to nails on a chalkboard or think it "does my head in," but I guess everyone has to be passionate about something.

Calm down Mr. Tim, it was clearly meant in jest. (From my side, don't know about Avec)

I also didn't say this pronunciation specifically,

Just that sometimes the American pronunciation of a words feels like nails on a chalkboard. One specific  example would be "Schedule".

I just prefer British pronunciation, it isn't a personal attack on you or your country.  ;D

Sorry. It's become one of my pet peeves over the years, I suppose, so I probably read too much in to it sometimes. Condescension from Brits, that is. Whether it's about American English, still using the Imperial measuring system, or our... uh... eating habits, I've just grown tired of people looking down their noses at us. Tired enough that even when it's done in jest, I let it get to me, apparently.

I actually used to really want to visit the UK again (I lived in Scotland when I was very young, my earliest memories are there), but then the internet came along and exposed me to all the things they think and have to say about us, and I'm just about cured of that desire.  :laugh:

It could be that they were trying to be funny. We can be awkward to resort to "banter" which sometimes comes across a lot worse than we intend.

I don't think many Brits truly care about pronunciation differences or word differences, apart from a few... :laugh:
You're one of the biggest countries in the world and so you're a pretty easy target.   ;D

What to Brits say about your eating habits? I've never heard that one. 

Talking of built up resentment though...I do hate it when I have a school/teacher force the American pronunciations on me (I haven't had this for years thankfully but I know many British teachers do) and the students. I understand that is the language used here, however I don't feel that the kids should be told that the American way is the only *correct* way.
 If it is, why do they hire from different countries?   >:(
I think it's important to let them know there are many ways and I try my best to show them both American / British sounds where i can.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8071 on: May 02, 2018, 03:35:41 PM »
You know another word Americans pronounce better different?

"vitamin"

Only the difference is a bit more obvious.

I had no idea broccoli derived from cabbage.  (Along with misc other veggies.)

Fun fact, it's like real-life pokemon. Cabbage is basically magikarp. No one really knows what it's good for, BUT THEN

Fun fact, that was my nickname at my former school because apparently my "smile was full of energy." Though it took an explanation for me to realize what they were calling me because the pronunciation was different.   :laugh: 

Love the pokemon analogy.  I am fonder of cabbage's evolved forms than of cabbage itself.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8072 on: May 02, 2018, 03:39:23 PM »
You know another word Americans pronounce better different?

"vitamin"

Only the difference is a bit more obvious.

I had no idea broccoli derived from cabbage.  (Along with misc other veggies.)

Fun fact, it's like real-life pokemon. Cabbage is basically magikarp. No one really knows what it's good for, BUT THEN

Fun fact, that was my nickname at my former school because apparently my "smile was full of energy." Though it took an explanation for me to realize what they were calling me because the pronunciation was different.   :laugh: 

Love the pokemon analogy.  I am fonder of cabbage's evolved forms than of cabbage itself.

They called you Magikarp?  A little insensitive tbh.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8073 on: May 02, 2018, 03:41:48 PM »
Talking of built up resentment though...I do hate it when I have a school/teacher force the American pronunciations on me (I haven't had this for years thankfully but I know many British teachers do) and the students. I understand that is the language used here, however I don't feel that the kids should be told that the American way is the only *correct* way.
 If it is, why do they hire from different countries?   >:(
I think it's important to let them know there are many ways and I try my best to show them both American / British sounds where i can.


Or when they force a singular pronunciation in general (because even in the states there are varying pronunciations depending on which region you're from).  On the one hand, I get that that particular teacher was probably aiming for consistency, but for example, I pronounce "a" two different ways interchangeably and I see nothing wrong with letting the kids know either way is fine.  She even demanded I pronounce "aunt" like "ant" when I prefer the other variant. 

While I think I understand where she was coming from, I disliked that she was reinforcing the idea that there is only "one correct way." She did this in other ways too and I could see new students changing from eager to spit out any English they knew to being worried about spitting out the "wrong" answer. 

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8074 on: May 02, 2018, 03:43:11 PM »
You know another word Americans pronounce better different?

"vitamin"

Only the difference is a bit more obvious.

I had no idea broccoli derived from cabbage.  (Along with misc other veggies.)

Fun fact, it's like real-life pokemon. Cabbage is basically magikarp. No one really knows what it's good for, BUT THEN

Fun fact, that was my nickname at my former school because apparently my "smile was full of energy." Though it took an explanation for me to realize what they were calling me because the pronunciation was different.   :laugh: 

Love the pokemon analogy.  I am fonder of cabbage's evolved forms than of cabbage itself.

They called you Magikarp?  A little insensitive tbh.

Lol, the bold.  You trawling?   :laugh:
Also, I would hesitate to describe a magikarp's "smile" as being "full of energy"  :undecided:

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8075 on: May 02, 2018, 03:54:15 PM »
Picking on other people for having an accent is really low.

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« Reply #8076 on: May 02, 2018, 03:57:27 PM »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?
  :laugh:

God no...

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/troll?q=trolling

The difference in pronunciation in those examples is honestly subtle enough that I probably wouldn't have even registered it as different if I heard it in casual conversation. Is the difference in real life more pronounced than in those recordings? They certainly don't sound drastic enough that I'd liken it to nails on a chalkboard or think it "does my head in," but I guess everyone has to be passionate about something.

Calm down Mr. Tim, it was clearly meant in jest. (From my side, don't know about Avec)

I also didn't say this pronunciation specifically,

Just that sometimes the American pronunciation of a words feels like nails on a chalkboard. One specific  example would be "Schedule".

I just prefer British pronunciation, it isn't a personal attack on you or your country.  ;D


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8077 on: May 02, 2018, 04:04:59 PM »
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8078 on: May 02, 2018, 04:15:33 PM »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?
  :laugh:

God no...

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/troll?q=trolling

The difference in pronunciation in those examples is honestly subtle enough that I probably wouldn't have even registered it as different if I heard it in casual conversation. Is the difference in real life more pronounced than in those recordings? They certainly don't sound drastic enough that I'd liken it to nails on a chalkboard or think it "does my head in," but I guess everyone has to be passionate about something.

Calm down Mr. Tim, it was clearly meant in jest. (From my side, don't know about Avec)

I also didn't say this pronunciation specifically,

Just that sometimes the American pronunciation of a words feels like nails on a chalkboard. One specific  example would be "Schedule".

I just prefer British pronunciation, it isn't a personal attack on you or your country.  ;D



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« Reply #8079 on: May 02, 2018, 04:42:03 PM »

In America, even the aircraft carriers are fat.  :wink: