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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7860 on: April 13, 2018, 02:14:53 PM »
And then there was another supervisor who had a super unusual, super difficult name to both remember and to pronounce. It had a strange spelling, too, so looking at the written name yielded no clues. Despite knowing this, this supervisor always, ALWAYS got very angry whenever someone mispronounced his name. Always made a really big deal out of it. It eventually got him into a lot of trouble later after he got reported for abuse over it, lol (he would literally launch into 5-10 minute rants anytime anyone got his name wrong, even if the person was new, and god help you if you couldn't remember his weird name after hearing it one time).

So yeah, lots of variation on importance from one person to the next.

He honestly sounds full of himself. Just correct people and move on, nobody cares how mad you are that nobody gets your name right. Can you imagine him getting teased in grade school once kids found out he hated it?
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« Reply #7861 on: April 13, 2018, 02:20:31 PM »
And then there was another supervisor who had a super unusual, super difficult name to both remember and to pronounce. It had a strange spelling, too, so looking at the written name yielded no clues. Despite knowing this, this supervisor always, ALWAYS got very angry whenever someone mispronounced his name. Always made a really big deal out of it. It eventually got him into a lot of trouble later after he got reported for abuse over it, lol (he would literally launch into 5-10 minute rants anytime anyone got his name wrong, even if the person was new, and god help you if you couldn't remember his weird name after hearing it one time).

So yeah, lots of variation on importance from one person to the next.

He honestly sounds full of himself. Just correct people and move on, nobody cares how mad you are that nobody gets your name right. Can you imagine him getting teased in grade school once kids found out he hated it?

I'm almost convinced that he was so neurotic over his name BECAUSE of teasing in grade school. Like, once he hit a position of authority, he felt like he could get a little payback or something. Didn't really do him much good, though, outside of turning himself into a walking target. It wasn't long before he had to take classes to improve his "leadership" abilities, and I think he ended up getting laid off later because this attitude bled into other areas.

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« Reply #7862 on: April 13, 2018, 02:37:21 PM »
Lil B will call you by whatever name you want.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7863 on: April 13, 2018, 03:00:57 PM »
This is a dumb rant but I don't think my couple's shirts are going to arrive in time for the Infinity War premiere.

And they were SO AWESOME.  :sad: :sad:
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« Reply #7864 on: April 17, 2018, 06:34:04 PM »
OH BOY HERE WE GO

I got almost all the way to school and realized my key wasn't in my pocket. Turned around and walked the 20 mins back, got the key. My fault, it's fine.

Head to the taxi stand to save some time and as I was getting up to the last taxi, this older woman hopped in and off they went. That's fine, I can use the exercise.

Walk the 20 mins to school, rocking up 30 mins later than normal so I can't get lunch. But it's cool, I grabbed a kimbap from the corner store knowing I'd miss it. Did not expect to have rocked up smack dab in the middle of an evacuation drill. I actually have no idea what to do in case of emergency, they seemingly forget to tell me every single time we have a drill. That's fine, whatever.

Start prepping my materials, my external decided to brick itself. 1TB of data just in limbo right now. Getting to be less cool.

As I'm prepping physical materials for my youngest class, with scissors in my hand and glue on the desk, my MT breezes through the doors and drops a stack of about 50 papers on my table. She got them last week and just...forgot to tell me that I needed to hand write every single lesson plan I've done since school started and submit them. Really starting to be not that cool anymore.

Oh, by the way you need to come with me NOW and attend club meetings. Cue being pulled upstairs to be teased with illustration club and then given the ole switcharoo and tossed into traditional Korean drumming club who happen to be in the middle of their choreography for a drumming routine. Put in the middle of the room with sticks, no clue what I'm meant to be doing as my MT is playing hovering paparazzi while I flounder and take up their time with my presence.

I'm extremely embarrassed to be wasting their time, having everyone stare at me wondering why I'm there and why I can't play the drums and why the teacher is struggling in English trying to explain. My face is burning hot and I'm so embarrassed I'm almost in tears before the teacher says "you can stand, picture is ok" and I stand off to the side hiding my face as they breeze through their moves.

Because I was stuck in the club lamenting my life choices, I couldn't finish prepping materials for the next class that was a grueling 80 minutes.

How was your day?

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7865 on: April 17, 2018, 07:19:00 PM »
Tell them you are busy next time ! Having to prep for lessons is more important than a photo opportunity. If you really don't have time, just tell 'em  :smiley:
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« Reply #7866 on: April 17, 2018, 07:34:17 PM »
OH BOY HERE WE GO

I got almost all the way to school and realized my key wasn't in my pocket. Turned around and walked the 20 mins back, got the key. My fault, it's fine.

Head to the taxi stand to save some time and as I was getting up to the last taxi, this older woman hopped in and off they went. That's fine, I can use the exercise.

Walk the 20 mins to school, rocking up 30 mins later than normal so I can't get lunch. But it's cool, I grabbed a kimbap from the corner store knowing I'd miss it. Did not expect to have rocked up smack dab in the middle of an evacuation drill. I actually have no idea what to do in case of emergency, they seemingly forget to tell me every single time we have a drill. That's fine, whatever.

Start prepping my materials, my external decided to brick itself. 1TB of data just in limbo right now. Getting to be less cool.

As I'm prepping physical materials for my youngest class, with scissors in my hand and glue on the desk, my MT breezes through the doors and drops a stack of about 50 papers on my table. She got them last week and just...forgot to tell me that I needed to hand write every single lesson plan I've done since school started and submit them. Really starting to be not that cool anymore.

Oh, by the way you need to come with me NOW and attend club meetings. Cue being pulled upstairs to be teased with illustration club and then given the ole switcharoo and tossed into traditional Korean drumming club who happen to be in the middle of their choreography for a drumming routine. Put in the middle of the room with sticks, no clue what I'm meant to be doing as my MT is playing hovering paparazzi while I flounder and take up their time with my presence.

I'm extremely embarrassed to be wasting their time, having everyone stare at me wondering why I'm there and why I can't play the drums and why the teacher is struggling in English trying to explain. My face is burning hot and I'm so embarrassed I'm almost in tears before the teacher says "you can stand, picture is ok" and I stand off to the side hiding my face as they breeze through their moves.

Because I was stuck in the club lamenting my life choices, I couldn't finish prepping materials for the next class that was a grueling 80 minutes.

How was your day?

I'm sorry that you're being treated so badly. You really need to find it withing yourself to just say NO to the teachers at your school. Their constant demands are ridiculous.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7867 on: April 17, 2018, 09:42:47 PM »
OH BOY HERE WE GO

I got almost all the way to school and realized my key wasn't in my pocket. Turned around and walked the 20 mins back, got the key. My fault, it's fine.

Head to the taxi stand to save some time and as I was getting up to the last taxi, this older woman hopped in and off they went. That's fine, I can use the exercise.

Walk the 20 mins to school, rocking up 30 mins later than normal so I can't get lunch. But it's cool, I grabbed a kimbap from the corner store knowing I'd miss it. Did not expect to have rocked up smack dab in the middle of an evacuation drill. I actually have no idea what to do in case of emergency, they seemingly forget to tell me every single time we have a drill. That's fine, whatever.

Start prepping my materials, my external decided to brick itself. 1TB of data just in limbo right now. Getting to be less cool.

As I'm prepping physical materials for my youngest class, with scissors in my hand and glue on the desk, my MT breezes through the doors and drops a stack of about 50 papers on my table. She got them last week and just...forgot to tell me that I needed to hand write every single lesson plan I've done since school started and submit them. Really starting to be not that cool anymore.

Oh, by the way you need to come with me NOW and attend club meetings. Cue being pulled upstairs to be teased with illustration club and then given the ole switcharoo and tossed into traditional Korean drumming club who happen to be in the middle of their choreography for a drumming routine. Put in the middle of the room with sticks, no clue what I'm meant to be doing as my MT is playing hovering paparazzi while I flounder and take up their time with my presence.

I'm extremely embarrassed to be wasting their time, having everyone stare at me wondering why I'm there and why I can't play the drums and why the teacher is struggling in English trying to explain. My face is burning hot and I'm so embarrassed I'm almost in tears before the teacher says "you can stand, picture is ok" and I stand off to the side hiding my face as they breeze through their moves.

Because I was stuck in the club lamenting my life choices, I couldn't finish prepping materials for the next class that was a grueling 80 minutes.

How was your day?

I'm sorry that you're being treated so badly. You really need to find it withing yourself to just say NO to the teachers at your school. Their constant demands are ridiculous.

Bingsu,

You need to grow a backbone.  This whole culture is built on stronger vs weaker.  The weaker you appear, the more shit they will give you.  You just need to say no.  They won't know what to do with that answer cause every one of their "inferiors" has said yes!....Fight for your right!!  Don't stand for bullshit! 

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« Reply #7868 on: April 17, 2018, 09:46:18 PM »
I'm on the other end where I don't really have a strong affinity with mine. One time in middle school there were 3 of us in the same class with the same name. The other two lasses were each adamant on a particular variation of the name so each claimed their respective preference and I accepted the remaining variant even though my family calls me by a different one. In subsequent times, some people have asked if they can call me x variation and as long as it's not bizarre I don't mind. These days I just introduce myself one way because it's easier (for Koreans/foreigners) to pronounce.

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« Reply #7869 on: April 18, 2018, 07:38:28 AM »
OH BOY HERE WE GO

I got almost all the way to school and realized my key wasn't in my pocket. Turned around and walked the 20 mins back, got the key. My fault, it's fine.

Head to the taxi stand to save some time and as I was getting up to the last taxi, this older woman hopped in and off they went. That's fine, I can use the exercise.

Walk the 20 mins to school, rocking up 30 mins later than normal so I can't get lunch. But it's cool, I grabbed a kimbap from the corner store knowing I'd miss it. Did not expect to have rocked up smack dab in the middle of an evacuation drill. I actually have no idea what to do in case of emergency, they seemingly forget to tell me every single time we have a drill. That's fine, whatever.

Start prepping my materials, my external decided to brick itself. 1TB of data just in limbo right now. Getting to be less cool.

As I'm prepping physical materials for my youngest class, with scissors in my hand and glue on the desk, my MT breezes through the doors and drops a stack of about 50 papers on my table. She got them last week and just...forgot to tell me that I needed to hand write every single lesson plan I've done since school started and submit them. Really starting to be not that cool anymore.

Oh, by the way you need to come with me NOW and attend club meetings. Cue being pulled upstairs to be teased with illustration club and then given the ole switcharoo and tossed into traditional Korean drumming club who happen to be in the middle of their choreography for a drumming routine. Put in the middle of the room with sticks, no clue what I'm meant to be doing as my MT is playing hovering paparazzi while I flounder and take up their time with my presence.

I'm extremely embarrassed to be wasting their time, having everyone stare at me wondering why I'm there and why I can't play the drums and why the teacher is struggling in English trying to explain. My face is burning hot and I'm so embarrassed I'm almost in tears before the teacher says "you can stand, picture is ok" and I stand off to the side hiding my face as they breeze through their moves.

Because I was stuck in the club lamenting my life choices, I couldn't finish prepping materials for the next class that was a grueling 80 minutes.

How was your day?

Rookie mistake and almost everyone falls for it in the beginning.

Basically, FIRST IMPRESSIONS ARE EVERYTHING!

When you start working, many CTs and co-workers will 'test' you. They'll either act like a domineering dick,
ask you for a relatively inconvenient 'favour' or pressure you into doing something outside of your duties.
Accept and it's all downhill from there, you've solidified yourself as a doormat.
Stand your ground and you'll likely meet some resistance. As long as you remain firm, yet calm and respectful,
they'll probably give up.

Sadly, South Korean society operates on a food chain of bullying. Superiors bully their juniors as a coping mechanism for those who are bullying them.

As a foreigner, you have to assert the card that you're not part of that ecosystem. 

On different note, you should be asking, every month or week, for any schedule changes etc.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7870 on: April 18, 2018, 07:45:24 AM »
OH BOY HERE WE GO

I got almost all the way to school and realized my key wasn't in my pocket. Turned around and walked the 20 mins back, got the key. My fault, it's fine.

Head to the taxi stand to save some time and as I was getting up to the last taxi, this older woman hopped in and off they went. That's fine, I can use the exercise.

Walk the 20 mins to school, rocking up 30 mins later than normal so I can't get lunch. But it's cool, I grabbed a kimbap from the corner store knowing I'd miss it. Did not expect to have rocked up smack dab in the middle of an evacuation drill. I actually have no idea what to do in case of emergency, they seemingly forget to tell me every single time we have a drill. That's fine, whatever.

Start prepping my materials, my external decided to brick itself. 1TB of data just in limbo right now. Getting to be less cool.

As I'm prepping physical materials for my youngest class, with scissors in my hand and glue on the desk, my MT breezes through the doors and drops a stack of about 50 papers on my table. She got them last week and just...forgot to tell me that I needed to hand write every single lesson plan I've done since school started and submit them. Really starting to be not that cool anymore.

Oh, by the way you need to come with me NOW and attend club meetings. Cue being pulled upstairs to be teased with illustration club and then given the ole switcharoo and tossed into traditional Korean drumming club who happen to be in the middle of their choreography for a drumming routine. Put in the middle of the room with sticks, no clue what I'm meant to be doing as my MT is playing hovering paparazzi while I flounder and take up their time with my presence.

I'm extremely embarrassed to be wasting their time, having everyone stare at me wondering why I'm there and why I can't play the drums and why the teacher is struggling in English trying to explain. My face is burning hot and I'm so embarrassed I'm almost in tears before the teacher says "you can stand, picture is ok" and I stand off to the side hiding my face as they breeze through their moves.

Because I was stuck in the club lamenting my life choices, I couldn't finish prepping materials for the next class that was a grueling 80 minutes.

How was your day?

I'm sorry that you're being treated so badly. You really need to find it withing yourself to just say NO to the teachers at your school. Their constant demands are ridiculous.

Bingsu,

You need to grow a backbone.  This whole culture is built on stronger vs weaker.  The weaker you appear, the more shit they will give you.  You just need to say no.  They won't know what to do with that answer cause every one of their "inferiors" has said yes!....Fight for your right!!  Don't stand for bullshit!

Everyone is right. Just say no, and stand up for yourself. But you also have to be able to accept that the whole "Nobody tells me anything, I'm unprepared!" thing is just part of working with many Koreans. Pick yourself up, we believe in you! :wink:
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7871 on: April 18, 2018, 07:49:45 AM »
My favorite thing EVER is when I have a game prepared that involves groups, and I when I tell my students to group up, there's the awkward pause. And then my co-teacher says "I don't think they want groups because they don't like each other." There goes my lesson.

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Can you imagine if these kids had jobs? You can't choose your co-workers, better get over it  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #7872 on: April 18, 2018, 08:35:00 AM »
My favorite thing EVER is when I have a game prepared that involves groups, and I when I tell my students to group up, there's the awkward pause. And then my co-teacher says "I don't think they want groups because they don't like each other." There goes my lesson.

 

More like "I didn't ask them to like it, I told them to group up."

It's nuts that just not listening to the teacher seems so commonly accepted here.

Last week there was a student who wouldn't stop sleeping. My CoT told me the kid was feeling sick, so I asked if he had been to the nurses office. He asked, and the kid said no. I told the kid to go to the nurses office, he said no. My CoT told him to, he said no. CoT was like "Welp, he doesn't want to go." I said "He's a child. We're his teachers. It doesn't matter what he wants to do." CoT was just like "Oh well, we can't do anything," and that was the end of it.

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« Reply #7873 on: April 18, 2018, 08:39:04 AM »
CoT was just like "Oh well, we can't do anything," and that was the end of it.

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« Reply #7874 on: April 18, 2018, 11:03:44 AM »
WTF is it with people thinking native speakers are the weakest link that they can take advantage of?

The cupboards for slippers were reorganised such that I didn't have one. As a result, I got to work on Tuesday to find another teacher's slippers on top of mine. I immediately found a Korean English teacher and let her know how pissed I was. That worked, because the shoe cupboards were rearranged so that I had one by lunch.

Today, I get to work to find them rearranged again, although this time I do have a cupboard. However, there is already a pair of women's shoes and guest slippers in there. They are now on the floor, and they are going to be moved ever increasing distances from the shoe cupboard each time I find them in there. Or maybe I'll just wear my shoes.

Too many foreign teachers act like pathetic little mice in Korea. I wish people would make Koreans realise they can't screw us around just because we don't fit into their retarded 10th century hierarchy.

when they rearranged the office this year someone took it upon themselves to throw out both pairs of my slippers (one pair was a birthday gift)

so i took it upon myself to wear my sneakers both inside, outside, walking home, to the store etc. you threw out my shoes, so what choice do i have...right? definitely not buying a new pair for them to throw out again. take my passive aggressive wrath.

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« Reply #7875 on: April 18, 2018, 11:25:40 AM »
When did the term "rock up" become interchangeable with "arrive?"  It really takes away from the descriptive strength of a word or phrase when it's used for something mundane like showing up at school.  Unless, you screeched up in a souped up muscle car and hopped out with the top down flicking a butt towards onlookers, you just arrived. 

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7876 on: April 18, 2018, 11:42:53 AM »
so i took it upon myself to wear my sneakers both inside, outside, walking home, to the store etc. you threw out my shoes, so what choice do i have...right? definitely not buying a new pair for them to throw out again. take my passive aggressive wrath.

Really bad idea. Suck it up and buy a new pair.

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« Reply #7877 on: April 18, 2018, 11:47:40 AM »
so i took it upon myself to wear my sneakers both inside, outside, walking home, to the store etc. you threw out my shoes, so what choice do i have...right? definitely not buying a new pair for them to throw out again. take my passive aggressive wrath.

Really bad idea. Suck it up and buy a new pair.
Why? It's not as though the indoor/outdoor shoes does a whole heck of a lot, considering that the kids run around outside in their slippers each and every break-time and then return to track all that crap in halls.
    And she has a reasonably good explanation that will deflect blame if anybody ever notices/points it out.

And passive aggressive wrath feels *awesome*. You should try it sometime!

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« Reply #7878 on: April 18, 2018, 11:51:42 AM »
That's petty. Better to behave in a professional and dignified fashion.

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« Reply #7879 on: April 18, 2018, 11:57:54 AM »
That's petty. Better to behave in a professional and dignified fashion.

At the end of the day, there's no real reason to be professional here. Let's be honest  :lipsrsealed:
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