For some reason this annoyed me: someone posted on FB asking how to use NEIS and the first (and only comment because for some reason the OP disabled comments after that point) response went in the direction of "It's not your job, it's your handler's job, if you mess up then it's your responsibility, all the terms are really technical, etc." ...I feel like NEIS isn't that hard to use, even if you're just memorizing the steps. I have a cheat sheet that I keep updated every time I have to request something new. And I'd much rather be able to personally keep track of how all my requests (business trips, vacation, etc.) are logged. Also, the translations of each step seem accurate enough and always matched up with what my coT said so I don't feel like that's a big issue either. I dunno man. Maybe I'm annoyed that the OP was being discouraged from taking responsibility.
Quote from: donovan on September 08, 2017, 03:03:50 PMQuote from: kobayashi on September 08, 2017, 02:45:16 PMI have basic proficiency in NEIS and yes it isn't very hard to use.begs the question as to why the korean teachers who are responsible for our NEIS stuff treat it as if it's some huge inconvenience in their lives. less than 5 minutes to put in a business trip or something.I think they're also supposed to run any time off request by a NET through the P or VP. The liaison teacher's level of annoyance at your request may depend on how pleasant the people in these positions are to converse with. At the very least, it requires them to get out of their chair and walk down and up at least one flight of stairs. Plus, if they didn't let you know that it was a huge inconvenience, you would have no idea how hard they work.any request for time off by anyone period needs to be approved by the P and/or VP. but that approval is done via the NEIS system. you have to enter the authorization chain on NEIS. there's no need to leave your seat at all.
Quote from: kobayashi on September 08, 2017, 02:45:16 PMI have basic proficiency in NEIS and yes it isn't very hard to use.begs the question as to why the korean teachers who are responsible for our NEIS stuff treat it as if it's some huge inconvenience in their lives. less than 5 minutes to put in a business trip or something.I think they're also supposed to run any time off request by a NET through the P or VP. The liaison teacher's level of annoyance at your request may depend on how pleasant the people in these positions are to converse with. At the very least, it requires them to get out of their chair and walk down and up at least one flight of stairs. Plus, if they didn't let you know that it was a huge inconvenience, you would have no idea how hard they work.
I have basic proficiency in NEIS and yes it isn't very hard to use.begs the question as to why the korean teachers who are responsible for our NEIS stuff treat it as if it's some huge inconvenience in their lives. less than 5 minutes to put in a business trip or something.
I read that exact comment / thread on FB ;PMy co-teachers made me a cheatsheet on how to log my regular travel school visits, and it's not hard, but I still have no idea about vacation or sick days. I guess we'll cross that bridge when it comes.
Quote from: Kayos on September 08, 2017, 03:08:35 PMI read that exact comment / thread on FB ;PMy co-teachers made me a cheatsheet on how to log my regular travel school visits, and it's not hard, but I still have no idea about vacation or sick days. I guess we'll cross that bridge when it comes. I was vaguely worried that the person who commented on that post would see me on here whinging about it Requesting vacation time is easy, don't sweat it (at least in NEIS, depends on your VP or P as well I suppose )! I haven't used a sick day yet but I imagine it wouldn't be much different in terms of difficulty/ease.
Quote from: donovan on September 08, 2017, 03:03:50 PMQuote from: kobayashi on September 08, 2017, 02:45:16 PM...begs the question as to why the korean teachers who are responsible for our NEIS stuff treat it as if it's some huge inconvenience in their lives. less than 5 minutes to put in a business trip or something.I think they're also supposed to run any time off request by a NET through the P or VP. The liaison teacher's level of annoyance at your request may depend on how pleasant the people in these positions are to converse with. At the very least, it requires them to get out of their chair and walk down and up at least one flight of stairs. Plus, if they didn't let you know that it was a huge inconvenience, you would have no idea how hard they work.any request for time off by anyone period needs to be approved by the P and/or VP. but that approval is done via the NEIS system. you have to enter the authorization chain on NEIS. there's no need to leave your seat at all.
Quote from: kobayashi on September 08, 2017, 02:45:16 PM...begs the question as to why the korean teachers who are responsible for our NEIS stuff treat it as if it's some huge inconvenience in their lives. less than 5 minutes to put in a business trip or something.I think they're also supposed to run any time off request by a NET through the P or VP. The liaison teacher's level of annoyance at your request may depend on how pleasant the people in these positions are to converse with. At the very least, it requires them to get out of their chair and walk down and up at least one flight of stairs. Plus, if they didn't let you know that it was a huge inconvenience, you would have no idea how hard they work.
...begs the question as to why the korean teachers who are responsible for our NEIS stuff treat it as if it's some huge inconvenience in their lives. less than 5 minutes to put in a business trip or something.
Mine have to get physical authorisation before they can enter anything (for their trips and my own). They get grilled by the head-teacher and/or VP about it. Depending on the teacher they have to make lots of trips up and down stairs.
School is cancelled due to dangerous weather for students only.. because who cares about the safety of the teachers am I right?But also what the F*CK at the parents who still sent their kids walking to school today. Are they insane? The roads are flooded up to my shins, traffic lights are out, cars are stalled in the middle of the road, and there are children walking alone to a nearly empty school. Insane.
Quote from: sevenpm on September 11, 2017, 08:22:57 AMSchool is cancelled due to dangerous weather for students only.. because who cares about the safety of the teachers am I right?But also what the F*CK at the parents who still sent their kids walking to school today. Are they insane? The roads are flooded up to my shins, traffic lights are out, cars are stalled in the middle of the road, and there are children walking alone to a nearly empty school. Insane.At least your school cancelled classes =| Mine is still running.
Some warning about the pay system would be nice. Just Paypal? I don't have paypal. Ugh.
Dangerous weather?
Quote from: Lurch on September 11, 2017, 08:40:20 AMDangerous weather?Not sure, but I, and everyone else in the office, got the emergency message this morning about something. It's all in Korean, so I can't read it, and my co-workers wouldn't tell me.
Quote from: gidget on September 11, 2017, 07:35:09 AMMine have to get physical authorisation before they can enter anything (for their trips and my own). They get grilled by the head-teacher and/or VP about it. Depending on the teacher they have to make lots of trips up and down stairs.THIS!!!It is seems so defeatist to have this online system when so many can't let go of the old way of doing things. Anyone know of any other reason for it to be done in that way (seeking prior approval, before submitting)?
