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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5560 on: June 02, 2017, 09:17:10 AM »
Back to the gym... on the treadmill and the woman on the treadmill near me was listening to some insanely annoying Korean comedy podcast or something. It was a man pretending to be a woman or something else. Most obnoxious thing I've ever heard. She had it on full volume and no headphones.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5561 on: June 02, 2017, 09:39:46 AM »
Back to the gym... on the treadmill and the woman on the treadmill near me was listening to some insanely annoying Korean comedy podcast or something. It was a man pretending to be a woman or something else. Most obnoxious thing I've ever heard. She had it on full volume and no headphones.

Take out your phone, load up some Cannibal Corpse, Racer X or Slayer and return the favour.

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« Reply #5562 on: June 02, 2017, 10:41:31 AM »
Had to 'edit' a few student's speeches as their speech contest is coming up. A few paraphrased extracts from one of my favourites:

Hangul
- Hangul is the best writing system in the world
- It's better than other foreign languages
- Other foreign languages have changed over time, Hangul is the only language which has remained
  the same.
- You can sound out any word.
- Unlike other languages, Hangul is Scientific.
- Korea has the highest literacy rate in the world.

Last year, this boy, a really bright and likeable kid, did another speech about kimchi. Pretty much the same tune on how it's God's gift to the world. Most of the essays were the same, glorifying different aspects of Korea and claiming how much better it was than anywhere else. The only different essays were a few speeches on their asspirations... Kind of incredible that 5/6 girls all have the same dream of becoming pastry chefs.

It never fails to amaze me; Korean kids giving a speech on how superior Korea is, to other Koreans... in English.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5563 on: June 02, 2017, 10:50:09 AM »
- You can sound out any word.

Sound out 광안리 or 설날 the way they're written, and Koreans will laugh at you.  :cry:

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« Reply #5564 on: June 02, 2017, 10:53:09 AM »
The sucky muscle massage-ish machine thing they used on my neck yesterday left a giant hickey on my neck :'( The meds make it easier to actually turn my head right now, but I look like I got throat punched :'( Surprised the students haven't pointed and gawked at it yet... My makeup skills aren't quite good enough to mask it :'(

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« Reply #5565 on: June 02, 2017, 11:02:49 AM »
The sucky muscle massage-ish machine thing they used on my neck yesterday left a giant hickey on my neck :'( The meds make it easier to actually turn my head right now, but I look like I got throat punched :'( Surprised the students haven't pointed and gawked at it yet... My makeup skills aren't quite good enough to mask it :'(

No need. They wear those suction cup marks with pride around here.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5566 on: June 02, 2017, 11:29:04 AM »
- You can sound out any word.

Sound out 광안리 or 설날 the way they're written, and Koreans will laugh at you.  :cry:

try 정로 or 박물관 too. the other day we were talking about 'lost and found' in english class with my 4th graders and one student wrote the translation as 분신물 instead of 분실물.

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« Reply #5567 on: June 02, 2017, 03:27:18 PM »
Last year I had a baby-CT who was...*sigh* ...he was.

This year he has been put in charge of an event. A coworker hosting the event asked for the file he used last year but baby-CT can't give any files to anyone because last year he wiped his PC clean 2x (he formatted his PC the first time, I still remember the technician's face ;D ) to make sure there wasn't any personal information on it - it was a security check of some sorts. He lost all his files.

Now, instead of TELLING coworker 1 he doesn't have the file, he asks another CT who has since left the school for her file she used for her grades. Except this other CT doesn't give him her modified file; no, she gives him my original file. Baby-CT hands it over to my coworker saying it's his file.

I'd already happily given her my file. I'm more than happy to share. But thanks to baby-Genius I ended up in a wonderful circular and never-ending conversation about giving her my CT's files and claiming them as my own! It calmed down when I pointed out that baby-Genius NEVER FREAKING TAUGHT THOSE GRADES!!!!!! and that she could look at the design, the file properties, the file name and the stuff in the file for verification.

But she didn't let it go. Not completely. Because native teachers steal everything.

I'M SO GRATEFUL IT'S FREAKING FRIDAY!!!!

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« Reply #5568 on: June 02, 2017, 03:40:52 PM »
But she didn't let it go. Not completely.

This is possibly my biggest beef with Korea. Even when faced with irrefutable evidence, they'll deny any wrongdoing. Taking responsibility for your mistakes is viewed as a loss of face and is completely unacceptable rather than a chance to atone.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5569 on: June 02, 2017, 10:07:16 PM »
Also, the high schoolers are having some kind of fun event going on right outside the English room window complete with yelling, loud music, and a PA system. How the hell am I supposed to keep anyone's attention?  :cry:

This happens at the university I teach at. It's a five-minute walk from the front gate to the building I teach in, which is in the far-left corner of the campus. Students set up a stage and blast out their ballads so loud that i have to close windows and draw curtains to try and minimise the noise. It should not be a noise levels high enough to disturb classes on the fifth floor of a building  as far away as you can get from the stage. I always wonder how they cope in the buildings closest to the stage.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5570 on: June 02, 2017, 10:32:52 PM »
Had to 'edit' a few student's speeches as their speech contest is coming up. A few paraphrased extracts from one of my favourites:

Hangul
- Hangul is the best writing system in the world
- It's better than other foreign languages
- Other foreign languages have changed over time, Hangul is the only language which has remained
  the same.

- You can sound out any word.
- Unlike other languages, Hangul is Scientific.
- Korea has the highest literacy rate in the world.

Last year, this boy, a really bright and likeable kid, did another speech about kimchi. Pretty much the same tune on how it's God's gift to the world. Most of the essays were the same, glorifying different aspects of Korea and claiming how much better it was than anywhere else. The only different essays were a few speeches on their asspirations... Kind of incredible that 5/6 girls all have the same dream of becoming pastry chefs.

It never fails to amaze me; Korean kids giving a speech on how superior Korea is, to other Koreans... in English.

2 things 1, Hangeul has dropped at least 4 letters since its inception. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangul#Obsolete_letters

2, James Milner plays for Liverpool, but using Hangeul they call him James Miller on SBS Sports.  Hangeul can spell any KOREAN word!

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5571 on: June 05, 2017, 09:44:58 AM »
Last gym complaint... maybe.

Last night a high school boy came in and started using the mirrored GX area to practice his kpop dance moves. He didn't seem to be bothering anyone else, but for some reason it was just annoying to me. Maybe I was just in a blah mood already.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5572 on: June 05, 2017, 09:51:44 AM »
Last gym complaint... maybe.

Last night a high school boy came in and started using the mirrored GX area to practice his kpop dance moves. He didn't seem to be bothering anyone else, but for some reason it was just annoying to me. Maybe I was just in a blah mood already.

lol, I can relate to this. I can't really say why it would annoy me, too, but it would. I mean I can think of any number of reasons why the boy would need to practice at the gym instead of somewhere else, but it just strikes me as a type of peacocking.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5573 on: June 05, 2017, 10:33:37 AM »
Last gym complaint... maybe.

Last night a high school boy came in and started using the mirrored GX area to practice his kpop dance moves. He didn't seem to be bothering anyone else, but for some reason it was just annoying to me. Maybe I was just in a blah mood already.

Sorry, but that sounds hilarious.

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« Reply #5574 on: June 05, 2017, 10:43:14 AM »
Had to 'edit' a few student's speeches as their speech contest is coming up. A few paraphrased extracts from one of my favourites:

Hangul
- Hangul is the best writing system in the world
- It's better than other foreign languages
- Other foreign languages have changed over time, Hangul is the only language which has remained
  the same.

- You can sound out any word.
- Unlike other languages, Hangul is Scientific.
- Korea has the highest literacy rate in the world.

Last year, this boy, a really bright and likeable kid, did another speech about kimchi. Pretty much the same tune on how it's God's gift to the world. Most of the essays were the same, glorifying different aspects of Korea and claiming how much better it was than anywhere else. The only different essays were a few speeches on their asspirations... Kind of incredible that 5/6 girls all have the same dream of becoming pastry chefs.

It never fails to amaze me; Korean kids giving a speech on how superior Korea is, to other Koreans... in English.

2 things 1, Hangeul has dropped at least 4 letters since its inception. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangul#Obsolete_letters

2, James Milner plays for Liverpool, but using Hangeul they call him James Miller on SBS Sports.  Hangeul can spell any KOREAN word!

Not a single statement can be regarded as universally true.

My concern, though, is why a genuinely intelligent and inquisitive kid would choose to speak about this same nationalistic drivel every year, and not just him, the other essays show very little originality and are pretty much variations of each other. Some reasons I've come up with:

A - He's trying to win the contest by appealing to national pride
B - He doesn't really know what else to write about.
C - Winning is more important than self expression, see A.
D - Everyone else is doing the same thing, he doesn't want to be the odd one out.

After thinking about it, doesn't the above permeate in almost every aspect of Korean society?

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« Reply #5575 on: June 06, 2017, 01:02:01 PM »
I was the token NES at a speech contest where the criteria used to judge students were:
* they need to be taught by the judges, if they're not in their classes they're dismissed because they don't know their personality.
* they to smile at the judges in classes and in the hallways
* they have to have a teacher, "...like [their] face,"
* they can't be as good as or better than the judges at English - that's bad for school morale,
* and lastly, but just as important if not more so, they need to have a speech title that is a standard essay/morals topic in Korean schools but with a body of [sometimes incomprehensible, often mispronounced, sometimes made-up] nouns and adjectives strung together in no particular order in a meaningless body of text that is delivered at auctioneer speed.

EDIT: I forgot to add context: the KTs loved him because he spoke so fast (like auctioneer-fast) it meant his pronunciation was the best in the group and that meant his English was the best and he should win.

This is the first time since the contest started I'd been asked for my opinion but the teachers had been making slight digs at me since I got there. Turns out they didn't want me there but the VP did and they were BITTER.
KT1: ... but you gave him the lowest score!
Gidget: But you just said it doesn't matter what I thought or scored because you are going to change my scores to match yours anyway. So it's all OK.
KT1: But you gave him the lowest score!
KT3: I think she wants to know why you scored him like that.
Gidget: Oh! Uh, he gave the worst speech I've ever heard an-
KT1: You are wrong. His title was amazing!
Gidget: The title was good but the rest was gibberish.
KT1: What?
Gidget: Gibberish. Um, nonsense. It was nonsense. It was a bad presentation and it didn't make any sense.
KT2: No. You didn't understand it because you are American.
Gidget: Uh-
KT1: Yes. You only understand American English. We are KTs. We have to understand many students with many different accents because our students are so good many of them go overseas to study.
KT3: He is a science student, too. So he has to be smart. And he is good-looking and kind in class. It makes it harder to understand him.
KT1: It is a failing with you American teachers. You only understand American and know American. Our students learn English as a second language. Their accents aren't the same as yours. You never understand other accents from other countries.
KT2: Yes, you shouldn't judge our students by your American standards.
Gidget: I'm South African.
KT2: What?
Gidget: You introduced me to everyone as South African, too.
KT2: Then why are you judging by American standards? You should learn a second language then you would know how difficult it is.
Gidget: No.
KT2: What?
Gidget: South African. I'm from South Africa. It's a multicultural country. Everyone knows at least 2 languages. Most people know more. I know 3. We're used to people with accents, the important thing is communication.
KT1: You don-
Gidget: He has a low score because he spoke too fast. He made up words. He mispronounced most of the rest. He forgot his speech several times and when that happened he turned and rolled his eyes and snapped his fingers at us. No one else did that. But more than anything else his speech isn't a speech because there aren't any articles, pronouns or verbs.
KT1: It's because he studied in Australia for 3 months. You just don't understand their accent or words.
Gidget: They'd fail him, too. They like verbs.
KT3: What do you know about Australia?! Australia is far away from South Africa and America. I went to Australia for 3 months to study! He is a science student. They would love him.
Gidget: My cousins were born in Australia. 2 of them are teachers there. I also have friends in Australia. I've visited there. I've lived there. No one speaks like that and if a student spoke like that in a speech contest they'd fail him and bring his family in for a conference. His 'sentences' have no verbs. In his entire speech, a double-leaded page in 14 point, there are 7 verbs. Even if he put verbs in, it still wouldn't make sense because the speech is made up of random words!
KT2: I know the problem! Gidget is marking the content.
Gidget: Wait, what?
KT1 & 3: Why? The content? Why the content? Are you reading the speeches?
Gidget: Uhm, just his. I wanted to know what he was saying and I couldn't understand his speech.
KT1: But why are you marking the content?!
Gidget: The rubric has content on it.
KT2: Oh, that doesn't count for anything. That's for the vice-principal.
KT1: In Korean: Really! I don't like NTs. They make everything so difficult and complicated. So is everyone OK? He wins.
KT2: In Korean: He's a good student. He is always quiet and he doesn't sleep in English class and he doesn't argue with me about English. He always says hello to me in my class.
KT3: In Korean: He always says hello to me in the hallyway, too.
KT1 & 3 agree and remark on his looks and and how KT 1 taught him last year. They also spend some time commenting on his title and how it was the best title out of all the other contestants.
KT3: Gidget, he wants to go to a famous high school and he needs the English prize to get in. Also, we like him. He is a good student.
KT2 asks KT1 and 3 in Korean what to do about my score sheets because my scores are in Korean.
Gidget: It's OK. KT1 told me to write it in pencil and not pen so she would be able to change my scores when I went home.
KT1: ...You understand Korean?
Gidget: I understand enough.

I admit I was a tad bolshy but I'm not going to take part in speech contests again. They suck the soul out of me.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2017, 05:55:55 PM by gidget »

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« Reply #5576 on: June 06, 2017, 02:24:09 PM »
I admit I was a tad bolshy but I'm not going to take part in speech contests again. They suck the soul out of me.

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« Reply #5577 on: June 06, 2017, 09:19:43 PM »
I'm an idiot. I bought a two day wristband for UMF this weekend. I didn't have a bag to put the wristband in and I had the envelope in my book. "This is gonna fall out." I know!

I'LL WEAR IT. THEN I'LL TAKE IT OFF WHEN I GET HOME.

It's fabric with a pulltab to tighten it.

It doesn't come off. Now I have to wear this thing for the next 5 days.
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« Reply #5578 on: June 06, 2017, 09:59:37 PM »
I'm an idiot. I bought a two day wristband for UMF this weekend. I didn't have a bag to put the wristband in and I had the envelope in my book. "This is gonna fall out." I know!

I'LL WEAR IT. THEN I'LL TAKE IT OFF WHEN I GET HOME.

It's fabric with a pulltab to tighten it.

It doesn't come off. Now I have to wear this thing for the next 5 days.
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You didn't misplace it though!

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« Reply #5579 on: June 06, 2017, 10:05:18 PM »
You didn't misplace it though!

You eternal optimist, hahaha
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