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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4040 on: March 03, 2017, 04:55:43 PM »
Has Korea recently passed new regulations on importing cosmetics?

I've lost count of the amount of times recently when I've tried to stock up on stuff only to see "This item does not ship to your selected country".

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4041 on: March 03, 2017, 06:29:51 PM »
Has Korea recently passed new regulations on importing cosmetics?

I've lost count of the amount of times recently when I've tried to stock up on stuff only to see "This item does not ship to your selected country".

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My zany theory is because Korean cosmetics are not doing the same business in China because of import restrictions, they need to pick up the slack domestically.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4042 on: March 06, 2017, 09:53:12 AM »
Apparently my principal thinks it's perfectly logical to shift my CT from last year, one of two teachers at my school who could speak English, into homeroom teacher's position which any Korean teacher could do, and replace her with someone who doesn't speak a lick of English.


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« Reply #4043 on: March 06, 2017, 01:00:03 PM »
Apparently my principal thinks it's perfectly logical to shift my CT from last year, one of two teachers at my school who could speak English, into homeroom teacher's position which any Korean teacher could do, and replace her with someone who doesn't speak a lick of English.


This literally happens every school year for me, and also sometimes between semesters, too.

Just need to get used to it. It's annoying as heck.

My CT from last year was livid when the principal took her off English and put in the 4th grade teacher who legit didn't speak a word to me all of last year. They don't get a native teacher this year so those kids are doomed. He said "see you tomorrow" on my last day cuz he thought it was the same as saying goodbye. My elementary third graders knew more and were more confident than him...

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4044 on: March 06, 2017, 03:11:48 PM »
Elem. coT introduced me to all the newbies today. And told them I didn't know any Korean other than "Hello."  Ironically I understood basically all she was telling them (where I'm from, that I don't speak Korean, how long I've been here, etc.).

Not a huge deal as I probably won't speak to these people much as I only ever see them in passing on occasion but I'm capable of introducing myself in Korean and similarly basic stuff.  :lipsrsealed:

Oh well.  Better to be underestimated?

It's funny because at middle school they let me introduce myself.  Guess elem is full of coddling for everyone.

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« Reply #4045 on: March 06, 2017, 03:17:38 PM »
One thing I never look forward to when starting a new school year is the hurr hurr Americans are so fat jokes the students/coteachers make right in front of me. They always make me start with an intro about myself and my country, and whenever food comes up they scream "ahh delicious! but americans are so fat haha!"

1. It's RUDE. I'll never understand why they think they can drag other countries through the mud to our faces but just mention you don't like the smell of kimchi and it's like you've taken a shit on their ancestors' graves.
2. There are quite a few chubby kids in these classes as well. They probably don't feel great when size is brought up as the butt of a joke in class. It's totally inappropriate and irresponsible for teachers to allow/encourage this behavior. 
3. I have been skinnier than every single one of my co teachers. Countdown until they whine again about how thin my legs are "it's not fair you are American!!" Guess what! There are people from all over the world who are thinner than you, healthier than you, smarter than you, so stop trying to feel superior by repeating these obnoxious stereotypes. It's not going to make your place in the world any better.


One of the worst parts about teaching here is having to see these kids be indoctrinated into such ignorant ways of viewing the world outside of Korea. The inaccurate and stereotypical ways text books portray other cultures juxtaposed with the way every mention of Korea/Koreans is one big circle jerk (like textbooks with paragraphs in English about some Korean cultural point that ended the blurb with "Aren't Koreans so smart?") would be pathetic if it didn't actually work. The stuff that is allowed and even encouraged... I'm not surprised by how uncouth even educated, well traveled Koreans have been in even everyday conversations with me and other non Koreans. Sure, the weight thing is pretty insignificant (and yes Americans are very fat, I know it's true) but it doesn't stop there. The us v them rhetoric is encouraged by blanket statements used to portray Korea/Koreans in a positive light while demeaning others.  This is why the nationalistic egos here are so damn fragile. They are built on bullshit, and once they grow up, it seems like there is nothing to counteract everything they've already learned no matter how much they hate their lives. Hell Joseon, but Korea is still the best!


Painfully accurate.

The fact that it's so habitual to refer to Koreans and 'foreigners,' which essentially is a catchall for all the literal billions of other people in the world who aren't one of 35ish million Koreans, is ridiculous.

I can't believe that the only way they've figured out how to draw other nationalities in textbooks is take the most stereotypical costume of that country and slap it on a cartoon character. Fact: a person can be from China and not wear a qipao. A person can be from Japan without being in a kimono or yukata. Not all Americans wear cowboy hats. Africans don't live in huts. Ugh.

Like - just have a person. And say this person is from this country. Or have them standing under their flag. Don't cartoonify literally every other nationality.

Yeah it's so horrible for Korean books to stereotype countries. What they need to do is build a  4 minute childrens ride that feels like 4 hours with horrifying animatronics then build that same stereotyping trash ride in every other country they open a theme park in :D


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4046 on: March 06, 2017, 03:19:24 PM »

I can't believe that the only way they've figured out how to draw other nationalities in textbooks is take the most stereotypical costume of that country and slap it on a cartoon character. Fact: a person can be from China and not wear a qipao. A person can be from Japan without being in a kimono or yukata. Not all Americans wear cowboy hats. Africans don't live in huts. Ugh.


From a large map on the wall of the English classroom in an elementary school I worked at a couple years back:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4047 on: March 06, 2017, 03:22:45 PM »

I can't believe that the only way they've figured out how to draw other nationalities in textbooks is take the most stereotypical costume of that country and slap it on a cartoon character. Fact: a person can be from China and not wear a qipao. A person can be from Japan without being in a kimono or yukata. Not all Americans wear cowboy hats. Africans don't live in huts. Ugh.


From a large map on the wall of the English classroom in an elementary school I worked at a couple years back:



I understand the blowback for this, I do, but there are a tonne of tribes in Africa who still live like this. It's not false information. I'm not sure what the solution is, put everyone is a 3 piece suit? 

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4048 on: March 06, 2017, 03:26:05 PM »

I can't believe that the only way they've figured out how to draw other nationalities in textbooks is take the most stereotypical costume of that country and slap it on a cartoon character. Fact: a person can be from China and not wear a qipao. A person can be from Japan without being in a kimono or yukata. Not all Americans wear cowboy hats. Africans don't live in huts. Ugh.


From a large map on the wall of the English classroom in an elementary school I worked at a couple years back:



I understand the blowback for this, I do, but there are a tonne of tribes in Africa who still live like this. It's not false information. I'm not sure what the solution is, put everyone is a 3 piece suit?

Or everyone could just be nude.

There could be artistically placed plants.

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« Reply #4049 on: March 06, 2017, 03:35:26 PM »
I don't really follow why you are opposed to "stereotyping"?

It is very useful, like categorizing, generalizing, etc. and helpful.

Obviously, it isn't always going to be accurate, but it will do the job in a pinch.

Walk into a room, glance around, easy.

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« Reply #4050 on: March 06, 2017, 03:39:41 PM »
I don't really follow why you are opposed to "stereotyping"?

It is very useful, like categorizing, generalizing, etc. and helpful.

Obviously, it isn't always going to be accurate, but it will do the job in a pinch.

Walk into a room, glance around, easy.

Every map shows Canadians as Mounties, this is bullsh*t....................

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« Reply #4051 on: March 06, 2017, 03:49:37 PM »
I have been skinnier than every single one of my co teachers. Countdown until they whine again about how thin my legs are "it's not fair you are American!!"

you should counter with "don't worry teacher, i know my legs are thinner than yours but your eyes are thinner than mine, so it's okay"

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« Reply #4052 on: March 06, 2017, 06:31:53 PM »

I understand the blowback for this, I do, but there are a tonne of tribes in Africa who still live like this. It's not false information. I'm not sure what the solution is, put everyone is a 3 piece suit?

Not giving them all gigantic pickaninny caricature lips would be a good place to start.

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« Reply #4053 on: March 06, 2017, 07:08:05 PM »

I understand the blowback for this, I do, but there are a tonne of tribes in Africa who still live like this. It's not false information. I'm not sure what the solution is, put everyone is a 3 piece suit?

Not giving them all gigantic pickaninny caricature lips would be a good place to start.

Ah, yeah, fair play. Didn't catch that on my cursory glance.

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« Reply #4054 on: March 06, 2017, 08:58:04 PM »
I don't really follow why you are opposed to "stereotyping"?

It is very useful, like categorizing, generalizing, etc. and helpful.

Obviously, it isn't always going to be accurate, but it will do the job in a pinch.

Walk into a room, glance around, easy.

What's wrong with stereotyping?
At gym, in the middle of a set, concentrating on my form and have headphones on. Guy decides to begin a conversation and practice his English. I gesture that I'm busy and he stares at me, persists and I decide to ignore him. He begins shouting at me, causing a bit of a ruckus. I continue ignoring him and eventually he goes away. One of the other chaps tells me that he thought I was being rude by not responding because all westerners are supposed to be 'friendly' and enjoy small talk.

Or how about the stories of Korean guys harassing and groping western ladies since western women are supposed to be easy?

How about hagwon owners not hiring black folks because the parents believe only blonde haired, blue eyed folks are able to speak English?


I understand your point, but young kids (not just Koreans) will think in very binary terms until you show them otherwise and if you encourage it, well... most of us can testify how that ends up. 

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« Reply #4055 on: March 06, 2017, 09:47:52 PM »
I remember a few great Korean stereotypes: guys with tattoos, women who smoke, children from divorced parents, etc.

Nothing kind was said about the above and they were to be avoided (not marriage material).

Again, it wasn't always accurate, but it was "wise" advice.

A US equivalent would be girls with tramp stamps...not 100% accurate, but close enough ;)
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« Reply #4056 on: March 07, 2017, 07:26:30 AM »
Just got to my Tuesday school.

- Computer has been removed
- All textbooks have been removed
- Aircon control is missing
- Half the desks aren't here
- CT transferred and the HR teacher who's now in charge of relaying messages to me hasn't
  contacted me with the new schedule. I don't have the HR's teacher number either or know who
  this person is.
- Nobody else speaks English at this school


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4057 on: March 07, 2017, 08:52:24 AM »
That is the last time I grind and make the filter coffee.  'It's too dark', they complained.  Usually the colour of the coffee is a very light shade of light brown.  The teachers in my teachers' room have zero idea about coffee.  I guess I just have to live with that. 

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« Reply #4058 on: March 07, 2017, 09:04:08 AM »
Okay so this has been bugging me for a while:

Does anyone else get those "Don't you find it difficult...?" or "Don't you think it's...?" questions?  Basically, an indirect way for the other person to express their opinion?

I am admittedly woeful at picking up hints, in part because I just really value directness. But this burns my biscuit a bit because, I feel like they're trying to tell me something but instead of coming out and saying it, the onus is on me to be like OH YEAH I TOTALLY FIND THIS IMPOSSIBLE LET'S DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

I never know what to do aside from tell the truth. Which usually goes against whatever it is I suspect they want me to say.  :undecided:

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4059 on: March 07, 2017, 09:24:44 AM »
Just got to my Tuesday school.

- Computer has been removed
- All textbooks have been removed
- Aircon control is missing
- Half the desks aren't here
- CT transferred and the HR teacher who's now in charge of relaying messages to me hasn't
  contacted me with the new schedule. I don't have the HR's teacher number either or know who
  this person is.
- Nobody else speaks English at this school

Sounds to me like a day where you just wait around until someone gives you some direction. They tell you this is where you'll be teaching and then you simply ask, "with what?". then after some time scrambling around, they tell you, just rest for today as there will be no English class. We will have class starting next week ^^
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